JERRY JERRY JERRY!  Oops, wrong Jerry!


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Finally binged Discovery.  Terrific show, really impressed with how they worked the story and whatnot.  My lone complaint are the Klingons.  They look and sound horrendous.  Terrible choice to alter them so much, yet leave pretty much every other race the same.

Great writer, but professionally he was also a lunatic.


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One of the problems with Trek is that they've abandoned good science fiction in favor of bad dramatic fiction.  I would concur with TF that it's time to move forward, in terms of continuity.  I love Patrick, but idk, inevitably would they bring other TNG actors along, the ones who so embarrassingly phoned in the last couple movies?

The entire Trump/Miller/Kelly/Sessions approach is heavy handed and flat out un-American verging on heinous.

1.  The current system has been broken for decades.  Trump administration is now deporting people who have been here for decades.  Some are even DOCTORS.  These are people who are contributing to society, but have no good way to rectify their situation.  Right wing Republicans have refused EVERY attempt at remedies for the immigration system, because solving this problem would take away their dog whistle.

2.  Family separation is 100% the cause of Trump's team's zero tolerance policy, begun only months ago.  Rather than simply deport the families, they have sought to PUNISH them.  Repeat, PUNISH them.  Again, this is draconian and unnecessary.  But you know, gotta keep the base of racist crazies happy.

3.  The incarceration is seemingly undefined, as there is a major lack of immigration attorneys and judges.  Another remedy that Trump could fix, but HIRING more of them.  He has steadfastly refused. 

And so here we are, a President who despises poor immigrants, the ones who come and do work we don't want to do.  The one's who often flee peril, only to find more of it here.   He wants merit based...  Okay, so on the application for visa, should we simply be asking how good you are at cleaning plates, picking apples, mowing lawns, or painting houses?  I live in an area with lots of immigrants.  He's complicit with a Republican party that  has no real interest in fixing the system, because it would take away a major issue they need to scream about to get people to vote for them.  Because beyond that, their platform is decidedly anti-working class.


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Look, the reality is stuff like this get pitched constantly.  Jerry is very rah-rah.  That said, this IS the time for streaming reboots it seems.  However, I'm not going to read much into this yet.

Ehhh, that sucks, only 10.


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So I've seen almost the whole season, very enjoyable.  It's an uncomplicated show, which I prefer.


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I enjoyed the season, but the finale was a mess.  Between who they killed off, and what not, ehhhh, I don't get it.  Whatever.

So Lethal Weapon was recast with Stiffler, and Gotham WILL return!


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Surf Dance Chris wrote:

That’s super awesome, Grizzlor! Thanks for sharing!

Anyone here met Lester Barrie? I know his character Diggs was kinda cheesy sometimes, but I always liked seeing him in season 3.

How about Jason Gaffney (Bennish)?

Thanks.  Unfortunately, most of the Vancouver-based actors I'll never get to meet.  Many of them are more or less retired, or just do guest spots on the shows up there that mainly CW shoots.  Gaffney would be on my wishlist for sure, along with Tracy, Sabrina of course, Zoe McClellan (Designated Survivor just got axed), Tembi, and Floyd. 

Surf Dance Chris wrote:

Also I had a chance to meet Jeffrey Dean Logan at Megacon in Orlando last year, but couldn’t justify the $100. What’s the most you’ve paid to meet anyone from Sliders? (Or anyone in general). Question is open to anyone.

When I met Jeffrey at RICC, I was there to get a handful of stuff signed for other people, and one for myself (Supernatural poster I preferred to pay for rather than lug around the Manhattan streets).  So I had a minute or two to chat, and I mentioned Sliders.  His eyes lit up, and he went on and on about the show, how he loved the concept, and that it was nuts that nobody has done it again since.  You could tell that if he had been given a shot, he would have 100% loved to work on the series full time.  You will not meet a cooler/nicer actor than JDM. 

Anyway, his autograph was like $80 I think.  The Chiller Expo guests I've paid for were usually like $20 bucks.  John Rhys-Davies was maybe $40.  Beyond him, Corey Feldman I guess.  Sliders didn't exactly have a ton of heavy hitters, and Jerry doesn't do conventions (yet).


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Renova Group is big in the news this week.  Lots of money coming from them.  Again, not a shock, given that Trump was schooled by mobsters, partnered with them for decades in NY, and now worldwide.

BTW: somewhat OT but I finally watched Roseanne S10, and beyond the joke-line of the first episode, this series has absolutely NOTHING to do with Trump or politics.  It was a stroke of genius for the writers and the network to hype it up that way, but the show is just good clean family corny-ness, with issues that we all face.  I've really enjoyed it.


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Terrible news.  Hope she recovers.

I've really enjoyed it.  Cameron Monaghan (Shameless) is fantastic.  The showrunner has said that once Fox gives the word on the show ending, he would write a 6 episode arc to close with David as Batman/proto-Batman.  Obviously they didn't have that chance this season, and it was too soon.  Camren (Selina) shaved her head last month (whatever), which immediately had a lot of fans worried about cancellation. 

Here's the scoop.  Warners fired Clayne Crawford from Lethal Weapon, and if they can't recast his Riggs part by I assume Monday, that show is toast, and Gotham is renewed.  Unfortunately I don't think Fox will take both.  Fox has already canned a ton of shows, partly to make room for Thursday NFL.


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Well, as you probably have seen in the past, I go to a ton of conventions, film sets, stage doors, etc, etc.  That being said, I do love meeting actors who have appeared on Sliders, and if time permits, asking them about it.  Of course my big want is to meet Tracy Torme.

Main Cast:

Met Jerry like half dozen times now 2011+, always very friendly.  Met John a few times at conventions 2014/2015, another super kind, friendly man.  Cleavant I finally tracked down at a play house in Hartford, CT, in 2016.  He was in a hurry, but a barrel of laughs.  Finally Kari I met at the Chiller Theatre in NJ back in 2014, and she even gave me a big smooch on the cheek!  Sabrina I probably won't even track down, Robert Floyd is out of the biz, and Tembi Locke is acting in NCIS I believe, and has a book coming out.

Guest stars:

Met late Chuck McCann (Capt Jack Brim), Corey Feldman (Twister Acid), Stephen Macht (Kromagg) and Zach Ward (Dream masters) at Chiller 2013
Met Kristanna Loken (Revelations) and William B. Davis (pilot)at Chiller 2014.
Met Linda Henning (Quinn's Mom), Don Most (Dead Man), Veronica Cartwright (Fire Within) at Chiller in 2015
Met Paula Trickey (My Bro keeper) at Chiller in 2016.
Met Michael Des Barres (Dream Masters), Kenny Johnson (Dream masters) and Leah Ayres (Slide Cage) at Chiller 2017
Just met Nick Lea (Luck of the Draw) and Burton Gilliam (Way Out West) at Chiller 2018.
Met Charles Cyphers (Eggheads) at Horrorhound Ohio 2016
Met Chase Masterson (Kelly Welles) at con in Secaucus, NJ 2017
Met Jeffrey Dean Morgan (El Sid) several times in NYC and the Rhode Island Comic Con 2015-2016
Met Will Sasso in NYC in 2017, and Israel Juarbe in NJ at a Karate Kid thing 2017, both playing Gomez Calhoun!
Met Meg Foster (Col Burke) at Monster Mania NJ 2014
Met Robert Englund (State of ART), Adrienne Barbeau (Oh Brother) and John Kassir (Lipshitz Live) at Monster Mania 2016
Met Austin Nichols (great work) at NY Comic con 2015
Met J. August Richards (Just Say Yes) and Shane West (California Reich) at New York Comic Con 2016
Met Connor Trinneer at Star Trek Con in NYC 2016
Met Tommy Chong (Stoker) at a Cheech and Chong show Montclair, NJ 2016
Met Thomas G. Waites (Slither) at Warriors Reunion, Coney Island, NY 2016
Met Karin Konoval (Into the Mystic) at film premiere NYC 2017
Met Jed Rees (Time Again) at Philly Con 2017
Met David Kaye (Prince of Wails) at Transformers Con 2017


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Well I asked both questions.  He said he's not asked hardly about Sliders, but did commend Tracy Torme, and said he was bummed at the time about not being asked to stay on.  A bit heartbroken.  As for hanging together, he didn't recall but that most of the film industry would hit up the Sutton Hotel and a few other spots Friday/Saturday night all the time.  Very nice guy, I'll post a pic later on. 

What I would say in general is that most guest stars on the show remember it fondly, and that they're often still intrigued by the concept.  Nick, same as even Jeffrey Dean Morgan, is surprised it hasn't been rebooted yet.


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Nicolas Lea is finally doing conventions regularly, and will be appearing at the Chiller Expo in NJ this weekend.  I'm 100% gonna stop by his table tomorrow night.  Anybody have a "Missing Slider Ryan" question you'd like asked of him?

Chuck McCann has died, he of course played the hilarious Captain Jack Brim in Season One's The King is Back.  He was 83.

I met Chuck about 5 years ago at the Chiller Convention, and he was terrific.  He really was a good sport and quite jovial.


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I'm not complaining about a slant this way or that.  Everyone exaggerates these days, one way or the other.  What you should not be doing is flat out lying about facts.  Trump routinely lies, often out of thin air on the spot.  The media (beyond Fox) calls him out on it, and he brandishes this fake news.  These are not policies issues, these pertain to his disaster of a White House, and the various lawsuits and investigations it's embroiled in.  That remains my concern with him, the media has often acted as a check on his power, while Congress has laid down in front of the train tracks.


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ireactions wrote:

Tracy Tormé is currently very sick. He also doesn't have the power to make a SLIDERS reboot happen; a studio and network have to want to see it happen. It's also unlikely that NBCUniversal would sell the rights as just owning them makes them worth more as a conglomerate that owns an extensive library of intellectual property.

What's wrong with Tracy????


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The scandal is that they are forced to "inform" viewers that stories being covered by the rest of the media are "fake" when they are NOT.  It's the Trump admin and friends decrying negative press as fake, even though the facts continue to prove otherwise.


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crouteru_ wrote:

Maybe it's something a streaming service like Netflix could pick-up? I believe the satire and political commentary of early Sliders could work really well in today's television landscape.

Certainly possible, although the trend is to take successful older movies (with much more name recognition), and reboot those.  As for linking in the old cast, should they go down that route, it's absurdly easy!  I mean, you could go the Pilot route where Quinn shows up to school/brag to his double, or basically have the new group "stumble" on a world with one or more of the original characters.  Since there's barely any reason to adhere to previous "continuity," their back story could be mentioned just in general terms.  It's incredibly easy and fitting.  One possibility would be to use the old 29.7 year trapped on a world concern!  Granted we're not at that point yet, but for these characters, it's really been almost 20 since we've seen them, so it would make sense. 

A reboot I think would work.  Alternate histories, it's just rarely done.  Star Trek, Counterpart, Man in the High Castle, Fringe, The Leftovers, heck even Xena did it.  But they rarely went beyond 2 worlds.  Sliders involved well over 100, with a few dozen that were quite memorable.  The concept remains unique.


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Technically the show was already "renewed" for 14 like a year ago, as the boys signed two year deals.  Scoobynatural was incredible.  I laughed nonstop.


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No one has really tried a reboot to our knowledge.  Weiss tried to do a movie, Tracy has tried, even Jerry was seriously talking to people following the Funny or Die spoof he did.  It's a terrific concept, no question, and still bizarre that Universal hasn't redone it.  That being said, Universal doesn't have a good track record.


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Prince of Wails anyone? … 1824233490

Sinclair Broadcast Group, owner or operator of nearly 200 television stations in the U.S., would be forcing its news anchors to record a promo about “the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country.” The script, which parrots Donald Trump’s oft-declarations of developments negative to his presidency as “fake news,” brought upheaval to newsrooms already dismayed with Sinclair’s consistent interference to bring right-wing propaganda to local television broadcasts.


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This thing was basically a copy of Scientology, that's what drew in the actors, like it does there.  Clearly Allison maintained relationships with people.  I mean when I saw her she had a group of people with her, as well as Glover.  I don't think anybody suspected the master/slave stuff, and apparently that's where she is most culpable. 

As for Scientology, I would skip Leah's show and just watch "Going Clear," the doc is far more damning.  Again, I can't understand how they aren't challenged, but they have a ton of money and power and probably dirt on a lot of people.


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Why does William look just like John Connor from Sarah Connor Chronicles?


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My GF (bigger fan of orig than I) watched Roseanne, and gave me a quick synopsis.  Said political persuasion was not important; however, way too many OLD story lines that they tried to recap, left her head spinning.  She was more annoyed by how the characters "wound up" all these years later!  I myself was not a big fan.  I thought Aunt Jackie, and the friends were far funnier than the actual family.   For me, the show is out of date, I prefer something like Shameless.


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Her ex-BF remained though.  Wow, I didn't realize both women joined this thing back in 2005, and Kristin only left in 2012.  Here's the rub though, this thing was largely like Scientology for many years.  It's only recently that the whole master/slave DOS thing really started up, and Allison is potentially culpable for creating that.  They nicknamed her "Pimp Mack!"  She is in serious, serious trouble.  What a shame.


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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

How tall are you, Grizzlor?

lil over 6' 2" same as JOC!

****I will add, after reading the full criminal complaint against Raniere, Allison is accused mainly of recruiting women.  Towards the end there is evidence submitted that she, like many others, gave "collateral" to the group, so that in the event she leaves, they screw her.  Crazy stuff.  Custody of children, money, dirt on her parents, etc.


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Hmmm, you're right, sounds like she's still in it, and likely to be charged by the FBI.  Damn.  From what I've read, this scheme is really not much different than Scientology.  It seems to focus on sex, but in reality it's the same thing.  They recruit you, make you spill the beans, and then blackmail you with those secrets from leaving.  They take your money, and force you to do labor for free.  Seems it was bankrolled by a few older women with lots of money.  No she didn't mention it to me!  But one of the rules of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club! 

Frankly I don't see how Scientology continues unimpeded, but unlike this group, they are older with far more money and power.  Tom Cruise has probably done some bad stuff, but I still watch his films without a second thought.  Same with Travolta, Will Smith, anyone else in it.


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FAKE NEWS!!!!!  Damn I've been waiting to say that!

Firstly, that article is click bait, and the only reference to her "arrest" is on the freaking  SUN website, a British tabloid rag. 

Secondly, if she were hiding out in Mexico OR on the run from the law, would she have agreed to appear in ATLANTIC CITY, NJ, in April??? … uests.html

OR agreed to pose for a photo with ME last month in New York??!!!  Yes, I went to one of John Glover's off broadway plays, and to my great surprise, she did as well!

Thirdly, her involvement in this "cult" was way overblown.  Kristen Kreuk was actually in it first, through her BF at the time.  Then Allison was semi-recruited, and she dated that guy.  However, both she and Kristin came to their senses shortly thereafter and left.


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I'm not sure what all the hubbub is about?  They sort of killed a bunch of characters off, revealed a whole lot of anti-climatic stuff, and whatnot.  Basically exactly what the show did 15 years ago. 

I am surprised they didn't go forward with other actors like Ambrose and Amell from last year.  I hope they return, maybe this time it's just 6-8 shows, and they can wrap the thing up once and for all.


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Even Jerry knows it!

Supposedly he'll join in the Live Tweet from SlideCage's #SlidersRewatch 8PM EST


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and while we're at it, congrats to Charlie O'Connell on his engagement.


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I'm caught up again!  The crazy AI episode was really funny, and quite creative.  Really harkened back to the old days.  As for the Familiar episode, yes, well done, but also I think a bit too Supernatural!

The creator of this project is a teenager from Brazil with limited acting experience.  Seems more a hoax or attempt at him to make his IMDB profile more beefy.  Also doesn't say Sliders just multiverse.


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I too don't see the mental illness thing ever being reliably checked, not to mention challenged in court.  They scream mental illness, but it's given a pittance in terms of funding.  Mentally ill are cast off as dregs of society, at least in terms of budgets.  To deny someone's rights is a VERY difficult thing, and really only the Patriot Act even came close to that.  Age restrictions I think would certainly make a difference.  NRA is opposed of course.  Guns in classrooms totally nuts.  Again, can't trust students won't get at it.

Military-style weapons have been literally involved in nearly every mass shooting over the last 20 years.  They're also the biggest selling weapons of that same time period.  The NRA have been completely unhelpful here.  It's really bizarre, as even the tobacco industry has relented to regulation and taxes and whatnot.  Heck even the fossil-fuel industry isn't this hard set.  In any case, the AR-15 and copycats are going to inflict more damage on people than a 9mm would.  Ban them, that's my view.  As I said, gun fetishists won't like it, but there's simply not enough responsibility or accountability out there these days.  I wouldn't trust 90% of the buffoons who live in my neighborhood to own a be-be gun let alone an AR-15.


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Well, the NRA have not advertised "guns" in years.  Their commercials are about patriotism, and blah blah blah.  It's smoke and mirrors.

Here is the greatest joke of all. The conservatives, who rail against "activist" interpretations of the Constitution, have perhaps done so for far longer on the 2nd amendment. If one is to read and follow the act literally, as they say judges should, then the 2nd actually EXPIRED in 1904! That is when the National Guard was created, and for the first time, an actual, full time, well regulated militia was setup, by state. Up until this point, able-bodied WHITE men were expected to be ready to serve in state militias. Mainly these were for slave revolts, Indians, and things like the Whiskey Rebellion.  So that meant they needed to be armed and trained. Thus, the 2nd amendment. That all went out the window when the Guard was created though, eliminating the need for militias, and thus, the right to bear arms to keep said militias prepared. Now, I personally don't believe ppl should have their weapons taken, despite the law being outdated, but just certain ones and for certain dangerous people, all of them.


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NRA voter is grossly overhyped; the lobby is NOT.  One of the biggest pieces of this mess is simply the state of Florida.  The NRA lobby has bought so many pols down there, that they have created a scenario where, yes, even the police, have little control over the arsenals of threatening individuals.  The Trayvon/Stand your Ground nonsense was just the beginning.  There is almost nothing that can prevent you from buying every gun known to man down there, and in many actual cases, killing someone with even a shaddy excuse.  The police received DOZENS of complaints on Cruz (the shooter) and his brother.  Couldn't take away his arsenal.  His brief foster parents, both Army, yet both equally naive about him and his arsenal. 

Again, maybe this is just be being the "city fellow" here, but I simply never understood the gun fetish.  That's really what it is.  It's not a hobby, it's not like restoring a '68 Chevelle.  It's not sporting like hunting.  It's not for personal protection.  It's a fetish.  Call it what it is.  Rational people do not need more than (at most), a couple hand guns or shot guns for protection.   
I could see a variety if hunting, but honestly, not really needed.  That really should be the end of it. 

And so what we are faced with is an industry that is making millions of dollars off gun fetishists, while the rest of us lose.  We lose.  The 2nd amendment does not protect your rights to hoard weapons.  It does not protect your right to own a military style weapon.  A weapon that trauma doctors have repeatedly testified that victims suffer immensely worse injuries and likely fatalities than "lighter" arms.  These weapons are designed to kill effectively, quickly, and en masse.  That's why the military buys them!  They serve ZERO purpose to civilians, other than to the fetishists. 

Blaming mental health is a red herring.  Like opioids, there won't be money or a cultural shift to actually treat that.  These kids are not properly educated/cared for, but we're slashing those budgets too.  Arming teachers is laughable.  Hell, even the armed deputy was useless in Florida.  Background checks are not good enough with young people who may not have a record.  Or the teens could just take them from the dumb parents, like in this case, who saw nothing wrong with a juvenile delinquent owning a small arsenal.

The facts are clear.  "Responsible gun owners" simply don't make a large enough percentage of even legal gun owners.  Children accidentally shoot themselves or others constantly as it is.  The only real deterrent is to eliminate military weapons, and the modifications (bump stocks for instance) that make them even more lethal.  Nothing else will ever work.  Will it stop shootings?  No.  But it will certainly decrease the fatalities.


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I'll admit, for a split second, I thought of Info and how his eyes were widening.  Then saw my boy Richard Speight, Jr., and thought of Info screaming bloody murder!  Ha ha ha! 

I don't think that Jake Abel is on the outs with production, because he regularly appears at the Creation conventions.  If he were, they'd probably block him from those.


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One thing we should remember is that I would hazard to bet a LARGE segment of the current XF audience may well not recall the first series!  I certainly barely remember the details!

There was a lot of chatter on Twitter about getting guest commentators to talk about the episodes.


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I was NOT a big deal, it was in fact pretty run of the mill stuff that happens all the time.  All the memo showed was that the government applied for FISA warrants due to being suspicious about Carter Page, and that the Austalians warned about Papadopoulos.  There was nothing inappropriate about any of that.  Nobody's rights were violated.  In fact, FISA warrants were granted before the infamous Christopher Steele report even came about.  Steele, btw, is not some quack, he's a highly respected intelligence officer of the British government.  You know, our former allies, not the Russians.  His investigation on Trump's Russian ties was not simply partisan, it was a warning to the US intelligence apparatus that Donald Trump could very much be manipulated by Russia.  Furthermore, they have tried to argue that the FBI investigator with the love texts was biased.  Well, that didn't work either because he's the same guy that wrote the report that reopened the Hillary email mess in 2016. 

The Trump backers will believe anything he tells them, they will see conspiracies 24/7.  They are completely off their rockers.  I'm sorry, but this guy is nothing more than a Mafia-backed money launderer with a big mouth.  That's it.  He's been involved in criminal enterprises for 40+ years.  To have roughly 35% of Americans simply ignore that, and his constant lying, is really sad, but these people really would rather vote for Charles Manson than someone who doesn't jive with their politics, so I'm not surprised.


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I loved seeing Stuart Margolin on screen once again, as a big Rockford Files fan!  The Trump jokes are dumb, but I think they do them because DJT and many of this followers spout all kinds of conspiracies.  Trump promised to released docs from JFK and UFO's, too, which were duds.


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Saw the premiere, pretty good.  JK Simmons is one of the best.  Yes much more in common with Fringe.


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Very confusing, I will agree.  The fact that the finale of the previous season is NOW a flashforward is incredibly head spinning.  That being said, I will say that most people I know seemed to enjoy the premiere FWIW....

Again Kevin Smith made a big deal about this, and I think while not good or bad, a lot of fans felt it was ill-advised to just scrap so many TFA talking points.  That said, Rian has said he started righting the script before TFA was released, so he probably read the script at that point only.  For instance, he supposedly didn't anticipate such a cult interest in the identity of Snoke.  That said, scrapping so many plot points, or revealing highly lame answers to them, really annoyed many people.  Look, this is the job of the producers to reign something like this in.  It's bizarre, because Lucas Film seem to micromanage everything about these new films, yet went along with all of this.


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Today marks 25 years since the premiere of Deep Space Nine... … 202648047/


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The bill does provide tax savings for EVERYONE.  That is not the primary argument.  The issue is that corporations get permanent massive tax slashing, while individuals do not.  Simply cutting taxes just doesn't trickle down very much, and got news for you, most people don't work in jobs that give bonuses.  Companies are simply going to keep these savings away from employees and customers.  What's worse, the bill does nothing to tackle student loan debt, health care costs, 21st century jobs, and more.  Instead, it will add well over a trillion to the deficit.  The wealthy/corporations did not need this tax cut, and that's what most folks pretty much agree on.  They didn't need it, and they won't pass much of it down to the rest of us.  This was a huge giveaway to the financial donors of the GOP, that's it.