Star Trek in Film and TV (and The Orville, too!) (Page 2 of 9)

Well it wasn't proven whether the Axanar guy really paid himself a salary or what-not.  However, that production clearly went off the rails, both by raising a LOT of money via Kickstarter, and essentially hiring people left and right.  I think that stuff gets very murky, and should be curtailed.  So I'm with CBS in the spirit of their rules.  However, they went way too far.  The time-limits, preventing past Trek employees from working, things like that, not good.  You don't see Star Wars (arguably a far more active property) imposing these restrictions.  Then again, I suppose if Billy Dee Williams were to appear in one of them, Disney might get antsy.  That being said, the Star Wars universe is once again alive.  The Trek universe we knew (TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT) is dead.  I'm not sure what Fuller has in mind, but I seriously would be shocked if he went back to the well for actors from those shows.

They did go pretty far with the rules. But I think they kinda had to. It's like having a dog who keeps pulling on the leash and dragging you down the street. You can say "no" and calmly try to stand your ground, but that usually doesn't work. You normally have to assert your authority over them and jerk back a little.

Like I said, these extreme rules will probably be loosened or altered in the future. But right now, the dog is being shown who the master is. There isn't a fun way of doing that. I think that at this point, I'm not holding it against the company. However, they need to find a way for reasonable fans to remain close to the franchise.

I'll wait until it's on a service I have, not paying $15 to see it.  It's been said that given the NCC-1031 designation spotted on the Starship Discovery (in the SDCC teaser), the new series will be set at some point before TOS.  Now, as we know, the NCC designations as used in TOS were not always so easily "organized."  Reason being that the set artists tended to prefer to do as little redressing ($$$) as possible.  This wound up with situations such as USS Constellation getting NCC-1017 of course.

The design looks more like the TOS era than anything that's come after. It almost looks like a Starfleet/Romulan (or Klingon... but more Romulan, I think) combo design from that era, but I doubt that's the case. The nacelles and deflector dish do look TMP-era.

It's actually a really klunky design, which doesn't impress me. The shapes are so basic and uninspired. I guess it makes sense if it's from some point around TOS or TMP (and assuming that the current movie timeline isn't in play) but it's not a pretty ship.

The more interesting element to the video of the Discovery is the shipyard that's it's docked in. It seem to be inside an asteroid. I don't think we've ever seen that shipyard before. It makes it seem more secret somehow.

Info the design is based on one of the unused concepts for the 1970's Phase II series.  I think they will benefit from the short run (13 episodes), where they can tell a story from start to finish, and not worry about going back to the well and retreading over 7 seasons or whatever.  You can also benefit with this approach if you intend to change casts after each season, because you'll be able to hire some hefty names like Netflix or HBO have, since they won't require a 3, 5, 7 year commitment.

I understand that the third film. Star Trek Beyond will the last of the JJ Abrams rebooted films.
It was a decent film, quite good actually so now we look forward to the new TV series coming in 2017...

I saw an article that was showing subtle hints and homage that we saw in Abrams films. For instance it tells how since Chekov is not  in the original "space seed" episode he has no actual physical contact with Khan in "Into Darkness" however, Chekov is the only crew member who has actual physical contact with Khan in "Wrath"

Something I picked up on (did anyone else notice this?) when the Enterprise goes to Yorktown, we see Sulu with his gay partner and their child...George Takei is gay in real life and I think they were paying homage to George by making Sula gay. Interesting.

I thought it was stupid of Quinto to come back with "Well I'm gay too!" I'm no fan of Takei, but he played the character for many, many years. He's allowed to have an opinion on the character without it turning into a commentary on society as a whole.

I hate that I just took George Takei's side in anything.

Ironically Roddenberry hated the storylines that involved space battles but these were always fan favorites. and also many of the scripts penned by Gene were just not that good. 

He did give us a positive outlook for the future (for the most part) but the show did buy into the "naked ape" hypothesis that humanity is inherently savage. this theme was brought up more times than I care to remember.  His insistence on having  multi racial and ethnic crew members was well ahead of the times.

I like the dark world presented by DS9 in contrast to the sterile world we were usually treated to. It was not unlike  Babylon 5 world which also painted a darker picture of our future aboard a claustrophobic space station.

I recently read an article on franchises that should be retired and Star Trek came up.
Basically the author felt that the Trek films have become very formulaic (especially the JJ Abrams films) and perhaps it is best to forget the feature length films and return Trek to the small screen

It seems to be more at home there...

Honestly Kerr I wouldn't complain if they retired ALL franchises!  Let's get back to how they made and distributed movies 30-40 years ago! 

Abrams lack of Trekness was not an issue.  He didn't write the script, that was supposed fans Orci and Kurtzman, who've yet to turn in a film script that wasn't dog poop.  JJ had a vision for Trek in theaters in the 21st century that would appeal to the masses.  He was successful in that respect.  The franchise has been crap though due to bad writing, or a lack of writing in favor of bad jokes, CGI, and CGI. 

At this point, I wonder if the new series even gets off the ground?

That is a shame, but it makes sense. He is pretty busy, and I get the impression that CBS might not be the easiest company to work with.

Oh, come on. Bryan Fuller doesn't work on lots of TV shows that we all enjoy watching.

There's plenty of talent on DISCOVERY. Alex Kurtzman did amazing work on TRANSFORMERS PRIME. Nicholas Meyer is the writer (yes) and director of THE WRATH OF KHAN and THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY, the two most influential TREK films ever made. Aaron Harberts and Gretchen Berg wrote spectacular scripts for WONDERFALLS, PUSHING DAISIES, ROSWELL and REVENGE. Even without Bryan Fuller, the list of writers on DISCOVERY reads like a dream team of talent to me.

Problem is the series is supposed to be show week by week, so the 30 day trial wouldn't help unless you waited for the completion.  They've casted 3 leads, namely veteran actors Doug Jones, Anthony Rapp, and Michelle Yeoh.  Very strange that the Captain of the vessel doesn't seem to be a lead.

Wiki has her as the captain of a different ship, and only recurring.

They cast Soniqua Martin-Green from The Walking Dead.  She's terrific on that show at least.

It probably depends on the filming schedule. The Walking Dead usually films between May and November. Star Trek Discovery is set to premiere in May, but who knows when it will actually happen? Either way, she should have some of Star Trek filmed before The Walking Dead resumed production. And since that is an ensemble show, she may be able to work out a schedule for filming that would allow her to do both. It sounds impossible, but I've seen actors do it before.  Daniel Gillies was a lead on the Canadian series, Saving Hope while also a lead on the CW series, The Originals.

It's not impossible. It could take come cooperation between productions though. It is likely that Sasha will at least have a somewhat reduced role, if she survives.