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I can't speak to the black experience so I won't even try.  I think the majority of protesters are legitimately trying to drive real change.  I also acknowledge that a *ton* of people are using the protests for their own gain.  Yes, there are people who are taking advantage of the situation to loot.  Yes, there are people on the ends of the political spectrum that are trying to seed chaos.

I wish the protests had been different.  When doctors and scientists went from saying "no one should gather" to "well, some people can gather" to "Trump's rally is ridiculous", they've politicized science.  And that's counterproductive.  I don't like Trump.  I support the protests (at least, for the most part).  But hypocrisy is hypocrisy.  And whether the Memorial Day parties are to blame, or the protests are to blame....the result is more dead Americans.

But the hypocrisy is giving the Trump people ammunition.  It does look like the scientists are picking and choosing what people are allowed to gather and who isn't.  I get that people felt the need to gather for the protests, but we need to acknowledge that the Trump people feel the same way. 

Trump is 100% making it worse but people that were disgruntled to lock down (but did it, for the most part) are now refusing to wear masks and refusing to lock down ever again. And while I think they're wrong, I sse their point.

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Well, Trump's rallies got slammed because they were planned, completely unnecessary, and didn't require masks or social distancing in an indoor environment, which has higher risks than being outdoors on the street.   And as you say, he has thrown a hand grenade into the work of public health officials at controlling the virus.  Dr.'s Birx and Fauci and Redfield are being lampooned but let's face it, we all know they cannot speak freely while working for this maniac.  Not to mention it's come out that Trump is deathly afraid of being infected himself, as staff are scrubbing bathrooms, sanitizing every venue and regular testing for all aides yet he still won't wear a mask in public.

I don't approve of the vandalism happening either, nor the looting of course, but on the other extreme we have Trump attempting yet again to eliminate (aka LOOT) health coverage from millions of people by asking the Supreme Court to strike down the Affordable Care Act.  Again, the vandalism is pointless, but the protests are not.  Every other day it seems a video comes out from yet another case of absurd police brutality.

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I don't believe police should be abolished. However, due to high levels of funding and union influence, police effectively have a license to attack and kill anyone for no reason. The police and police adjacent people I know personally -- some of whom are reading these words -- would never use that power, never believe they even had it. But there are too many police officers who believe it is their right to beat and kill anyone they want. And when people protested being attacked without cause, too many police have responded by attacking them without cause and proving the case against them true.

There is a legal system in place that has proven effective for arresting and charging looters and rioters. But the legal system in place to hold police accountable for abusing their power has proven largely useless. People who exploit George Floyd's murder to pillage, plunder and assault can be caught and tried. But outside of high profile incidents, police will see little consequence to their recent on camera activities which include firing on unarmed civilians trying to get a pregnant woman to a hospital, beating a senior citizen citizen trying to return a helmet, beating commuters going home from work, planting bricks in the paths of protests and then inciting violence, driving by a crowd and setting off tear gas, driving police cars straight into crowds and other acts that have been recorded and shared online.

We need police homicide investigators. Police forensic scientists. Police dispatch. Police divisions on guns and gangs. Police special weapons and tactics. But we do not need a vast army of glorified security guards with hand-me-down military hardware running wild through city streets with immunity and we do not need to be funding their continued immunity to prosecution for abuse of power and criminal acts even as education, health care, social services and the post office are starved of financial support.

Police need to be rebuilt and I really believe that the cops who have helped me and whom I know would be a vital part of that rebuilding process.

Brooklyn Nine Nine: "The Last Ride" wrote:

DETECTIVE JAKE PERALTA: "I begged you for a task force, but no, you wouldn't give me funding for Strike Team Thunder Kill Alpha Colon Hard Target."

CAPTAIN HOLT: "You never told me what it was for."

DETECTIVE PERALTA: "It's a strike team! That... kills thunder? And puts its colon! On hard targets."

We should not be dispatching Strike Team Thunder Kill Alpha Colon Hard Target to deal with drunk drivers, shoplifters, counterfeiters, protesters, jaywalkers and speeding.

We should not be funding Strike Team Thunder Kill Alpha Colon Hard Target to the point where we are sending Strike Team Thunder Kill Alpha Colon Hard Target to direct traffic every time an intersection light goes out.

We should not be declaring that Strike Team Thunder Kill Alpha Colon Hard Target can strike and kill and target anyone without any reason or consequence for doing so and when many of their actual tasks should go to non-lethal municipal workers, some of whom could surely be retrained and redeployed police officers.

We should not allow Strike Team Thunder Kill Alpha Colon Hard Target to beat people on live television with no repercussions.

And we should not think that "police" is the only concept in existence for serving and protecting. We need the police, but we don't only need police and we don't need police in this form where their crimes go unpunished.

This is what I'd like police to be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKMoQaeDFQ

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TemporalFlux wrote:
pilight wrote:

Most of the looting and vandalism is by infiltrators, be they alt-right goons or undercover cops.  Most of the violence has been perpetrated by the police.

Which has as much evidence behind it as saying Antifa and the Sunrise Movement are orchestrating it.  We can spin conspiracy theories all day, but the truth is that criminal elements (no matter their race, religion, gender or creed) saw their opportunity and seized it.  And on all news channels, those criminal acts received as much (or more) coverage as the peaceful assemblies.

Actually, there's quite a bit of evidence that white supremacists and undercover cops are instigating.  The handful of police deaths have all resulted in arrests of Boogaloo and other alt-right perpetrators.  Undercover cops have been outed in dozens of cases of vandalism.  There's a long, long history of police infiltrating peaceful protests to make them seem less peaceful.  As for violence, the number of dead and seriously injured protesters dwarfs the number of wounded cops.

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In TF's backyard, the last state flag with a clear Confederate emblem in it will soon be changed.  Mississippi's Governor is expected to sign a bill today I believe that finally removes it!

What finally did it you ask?  Well the NCAA declared last week that MS would not have been allowed to host ANY NCAA championship events until the flag was gone.

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I don’t follow sports, but I would be very surprised to learn tournaments were being held in Mississippi anyway.  I mean, I have to drive 80 miles in any direction just to go to a movie theater!  But I was born here, and it’s cheap to live here.

That said, I have no attachment to the state flag; it means nothing to me.  I would like to see us get a flag that we can be proud of and rally behind. Twenty years ago, they put it on the ballot with two choices - keep the flag we have or change to this:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGwAHCY0o8sigv2p3BFYzOqg4WB5rdFWJT_YJZ2how_jpRyL0&s

I and the people I know thought the new flag was bland and unattractive and lacking of any apparent meaning.  It didn’t inspire us.  So we didn’t see a reason to change and voted to keep what we had.  They’re talking now about possibly a flag with our state flower, the magnolia.  A flower just doesn’t do it for me either.

Something I would like to see is a celebration of Mississippi’s history in creativity - it’s what we’re known for and yet people don’t know it.  Elvis Presley was born in my state.  B B King was born in my state.  Brandy is from my city!  Britney Spears went to school and grew up in Mississippi (my Mom was her teacher in 4th grade).  Snoop Dogg has strong ties to Mississippi - about 25 years ago, he was even scouting locations to build a theme park ten miles from my house - Snoop Doggy Land.  Unfortunately it fell through.

On a personal level, my grandfather’s cousin was Jimmy Boyd who was the original singer of “I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus” (and later married to Yvonne Craig - Batgirl on the Adam West Batman series).

What I would propose is a flag playing with the idea of sheet music.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSUjVqAikjhU0fWQZ3iIfNtp54-cxuuCZ61xw&usqp=CAU

Using a variation on the lines as seen in sheet music, place the stars where notes would go.  Our flag could actually be a secret melody that would represent our rich history.  Music unites Mississippi - it’s who we are in many ways.  But that’s just my thoughts on it.

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That flag is simple, but I like it.  The flags that I like best are the ones that are simple.  Texas has a great flag, and it's the simplest version of the American flag.  New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Alaska....just a flag with colors and some sort of symbol.  When a state flag has too many things going on (what are you doing, Maryland?) with an intricate seal or writing (several states have the name of the state written on it for some reason - if you make a great flag, people will recognize it without telling them).

To me, a great flag should be able to be drawn freeform by a child with crayons and be recognizable to most people.  I'd maybe invert the white and the blue on that flag.  Or leave it as it is - I think it would instantly be a top 20 state flag (there are so many bad ones IMO)

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Look NJ has a flag that looks like cigarette stained drapery.

On the Trump front, more and more reporting indicates he's known Russia has been paying bounties for dead American troops in Afghaninstan for over a year, and lied about it. Hasn't done jack about it. Only logical explanation is he's a Russian asset. They got him elected, he covers for them every chance he gets. What other explanation is there, honestly?

Again, Bolton briefed him about bounties in March 2019. In April three Marines were carbombed. In February 2020, US Intelligence briefed him again that there was sufficient intel on the validity of bounties. Four months have gone by, and nothing. Nothing. Worst traitor in American history.  I am EFFING furious. Trump needs to resign yesterday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/29/trump-r … ruary.html

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I think there's something to the idea that he could drop out before November.  It's looking more and more like he'll get crushed.  And even if the polling is wrong, his ego won't chance that.  He'll take his ball and go home first.  It's play 1 in his playbook.

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Would Trump's ego allow him to reject being the Republican nominee? Would he prefer to be the candidate, lose, then claim the election was rigged by the mainstream media and mail in ballot fraud?

What would happen if Trump resigned or dropped out? Would Pence run in his place? Is Pence likely to command what remains of Trump's following? Can Biden beat Pence? Biden's nomination had less to do with Biden's skill and more to do with Sanders' refusing to identify as a Democrat which apparently put a ceiling on his turnout for voters who identify as Democrats. I would have hoped that policy positions and material gains for voters would matter more than branding, as did he. It didn't happen. Very interesting examination here: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics … -socialism

Biden repeatedly scoring over Trump has nothing (much) to do with Biden. Trump is terrified of Biden, to be sure: Trump got himself impeached trying to smear him and was desperate to run against Sanders instead of Biden. Trump has now lost his ability to bluff or perform, has candidly declared that he expects to lose the election, and his White House can't even pretend that his staff can work around the president because Trump drove away or fired any competent managers in his crisis response departments. Biden isn't winning as much as others are losing and everyone is losing in this crisis with no federal response. Could Pence challenge Biden and win? Or would the August Republican convention become contested and a confused mess that would allow Biden to continue coasting towards office?

I can't imagine Trump quitting, that's what I said about BATWOMAN removing Kate Kane instead of recasting Ruby Rose.

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ireactions wrote:

Would he prefer to be the candidate, lose, then claim the election was rigged by the mainstream media and mail in ballot fraud?

This is the reality.  Trump’s pattern is to find a way to claim he won even when he lost, and he can’t do that if he just surrenders and quits.  No way Trump drops out.

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TemporalFlux wrote:

This is the reality.  Trump’s pattern is to find a way to claim he won even when he lost, and he can’t do that if he just surrenders and quits.  No way Trump drops out.

See, I think the ego would stand in front of that.  Trump is the kid who would turn the video game off before the end of the game so that it doesn't record a loss.  If he drops out, he can claim fraud without officially having had lost.  His election record would be undefeated.  Gore may think he won in 2000 and might tell people that he probably actually won, but the history books record that he did.  But they don't record that LBJ lost in 1968 because LBJ dropped out.

This is all 100% dependent on him knowing that he will lose.  If he thinks he has a shot, he's staying in the race.  But I don't see him sticking in an election that he knows he's going to lose, even if he can claim shenanigans.  Because he can claim shenanigans and (truthfully) say that he never lost by dropping out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/upsh … p-out.html

This was a discussion back in 2016.  It obviously didn't happen then (and hurts the argument that he would), but it also shows that it's something that has been discussed before.

The other sort of long shot theory behind it is all the charges that potentially await Trump if he doesn't win.  The best way for him to escape that is to literally escape that.  Wouldn't it be wild if he did a "diplomatic" trip to Russia, announced he was not running, and then never came back?  His old pal Vlad could protect him, and there's nothing the US government could do about it.  A trip to Russia as president could be suspicious but at least has a reasonable explanation.  A trip to Russia after losing the presidency is going to be harder to pull off.

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I find it unlikely that Russia would protect an ex-President Trump who would have nothing to offer Russia after his resignation. That said, I also found it unlikely that Russia would grant Snowden asylum, so what do I know?

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https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1278012801143865344

Biden came out of his basement.

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Biden has been giving speeches and press conferences for a few weeks now, the media just doesn't cover it except MSNBC usually. 

As for Trump, ehhhh, he's declared bankruptcy numerous times, and cut and run on many failed businesses.  Don't be surprised if he skips town this time either.

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Trump is set up to drop out for "medical reasons".  That unscheduled trip to Walter Reed earlier this year was laying the groundwork for it.

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ireactions wrote:

I find it unlikely that Russia would protect an ex-President Trump who would have nothing to offer Russia after his resignation. That said, I also found it unlikely that Russia would grant Snowden asylum, so what do I know?

He was the president of the United States for four years and has tons of state secrets.  He also has a base of millions of Americans that they could use him to manipulate.  He'd be the greatest state asset in the history of the world, no?

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Trump was certainly exposed to four years' worth of state secrets, but how much (if any) of that information did he actually retain if he even bothered to review it in the first place? How much usable data could a barely literate oaf furnish and what could he say (if anything) that would be credible? I can't see Russian intelligence getting any actionable intel out of his whining about CNN and deep state and Obamagate and any actual details would be warped by his poor recall and reflexive dishonesty.

I'm basing this opinion on how Trump's staff wouldn't allow Robert Mueller to interview Trump as Trump's inability to stop lying would mean he'd perjure himself.

Not sure what to say about Trump's base as I dismissed that in 2016 and proved to be very, very wrong.

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pilight wrote:

Trump is set up to drop out for "medical reasons".  That unscheduled trip to Walter Reed earlier this year was laying the groundwork for it.

Already blaming Jared Kushner for giving bad advice for 3.5 years, he whined about that today.  The Excuse Express is ready to leave the station.

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I fell asleep to Joe Biden's speech last night. I have a lot of issues with Biden, but sometimes, I just want to hear Grandpop saying vaguely reassuring and pleasant things during difficult times. I'm only human.

Hopefully, we'll have more of this and less incoherent, incomprehensible screaming at auto plant workers and college students.

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Well he did tell off a Fox News reporter who kept asking him to take cognitive tests, while his opponent again "hoped the virus would just vanish."

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The question I have to ask is this: if Joe Biden truly felt that he was cognitively unable to do the job, would he both 1) allow that to be tested and 2) step aside if it was deemed that he was?

Then ask the same two questions about his opponent.

Joe Biden is old.  He's not going to be as sharp as he once was.  And when that stuff happens, it happens fast.  But Biden also cares about the office and the country more than Trump does.  So I'm willing to trust that he'll know when he can't handle the job.  Trump hasn't realized in three and a half years that he can't handle the job, and that hasn't stopped him from trying for eight.

If we don't want crazy old men, we should stop nominating crazy old men.  Until then, we'll have to do the best with what we have.

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Something I like about Biden is his willingness to work with others. Kamala Harris blasted him, Bernie Sanders called him ineffectual, Andrew Yang called him weak on the internet -- but Biden has reached out to all of them to help him. The president shouldn't run the country; he should preside over many people running it.

He put Paul Ryan and Sarah Palin in their place. Can he perform against Trump in debates with the steadiness and sincerity and fire he demonstrated in his Wilmington press appearance? Or will he be reduced to incoherence like when Kamala torched him? Biden has been receiving some private coaching from Obama about being terse and spare in his comments.

Why was Biden so weak in the competition for the Democratic nomination? One theory is that the communication skills that made him so effective a politician have faded. But another is that he didn't really want to go on the offensive against his fellow Democrats whereas he has actual aggression to focus against Trump.

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First of all, Biden's best defense/offense has been that unlike Donald, he will actually READ the briefings, and listen to the advice of experts.  Trump's motto was that smart people are to be laughed at, because he's got all the answers.  Remember "stable genius?" 

In any event, let's not act like the President needs to be sitting in front of a computer fixated and working like mad as if he were the fat guy trying to unlock the doors in Jurassic Park.  Obama did none of that.  The President makes decisions, that's his or her job.  The information is taken to them.  Biden has also been using his experience with foreign leaders as a selling point, something again Trump has been a disaster with, particularly on phone calls. 

Lastly, in the debates during the primary, Biden got into trouble when he tried to exaggerate his "liberal" credentials or was unable to dodge modern liberal criticisms on his center-left positions from 30/40 years ago.  Here again, is Donald Trump the "guy" to attempt to question Biden's position on racism?  The man who TODAY told a FOX news host that black people need to read history or it will happen to them again (re: removing Confederate statues).  Think about that, if they take the monuments down, they run the risk of FORGETTING about slavery.  This is the guy to critique Biden's decades-old positions?   When Trump was being sued for racist housing policies, or later wanted the black Central Park Five executed for a crime they didn't even commit.  That guy?  Yeah, good luck there.  Trump couldn't even respond coherently to Sean Hannity, how do you expect him to fair in a debate?

PS: You guys have to get the primary debates out of your heads.  Candidates will say whatever they can to be ingratiated with voters.  And yes, Biden may have his work cut out for him, although Mitch McConnell hilariously pleaded with Senate Dems not to remove the filibuster if they retake control.  Hilarious, remove it, and push through legislation Americans want to see, who cares if the useless Senate GOP complains.  They had 4 years to grow spines.

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ireactions wrote:

Why was Biden so weak in the competition for the Democratic nomination? One theory is that the communication skills that made him so effective a politician have faded. But another is that he didn't really want to go on the offensive against his fellow Democrats whereas he has actual aggression to focus against Trump.

He was ineffective against other Dems in his previous presidential runs

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This is an interesting theory.  Again, good fodder for an alternate reality story if nothing else:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 00486.html

Mr Wirth's theory about Mr Trump trying to retain power following the 2020 US election doesn't end at the ballot box, however. He believes that - should the president lose - he will claim the vote was rigged and rely on a complicated gambit involving emergency powers and the compliance of Republican legislators to stay in the White House.

According to Mr Wirth, should Mr Trump lose in a scenario where challenger Joe Biden beats him by "decent but not overwhelming" margins in the swing states of Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, Mr Trump will declare that the vote was rigged.

He will supposedly blame mail-in ballots and Chinese election interference for the loss and invoke emergency powers to launch a Justice Department investigation into alleged "election hacking" in the swing states.

From there, Mr Wirth claims Mr Trump will stall until 14 December, which is the date when states must appoint their US Electoral College electors. Because the swing states are each controlled by Republicans, Mr Wirth believes the state legislatures will refuse to certify their electors until the election hacking investigation is finished.

He then claims the Democrats will challenge the investigation and the challenge to the election, which will eventually be taken to the US Supreme Court. Mr Wirth believes the Supreme Court will rule against the Republicans, but will concede that Mr Trump's emergency powers authorise him to continue his investigation. The Supreme Court will also maintain that should the swing states not be able to certify their selectors by 14 December - for any reason - then the Electoral College will have to meet and vote for the president without the swing states included.

Under Mr Wirth's theory, the Electoral College will then meet without the swing states under investigation, and neither candidate will receive enough votes to secure the presidency. According to Mr Wirth, the contested election would then move to the House of Representatives, where each delegation gets to cast one vote towards the presidency.

Since there are more Republican controlled House delegations than Democratic controlled delegations - 26 Republican to 23 Democrats - the Republicans will be the victors of the vote and Mr Trump will remain in office.

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Mr. Wirth forgot the part where 10 million people will show up at Trump's front door and escort him out.  Also, MI, WI, PA all governed by Democrats so his theory falls apart right there.  All Trump would have are recount rules, and his "Emergency Powers" cannot prevent the certification of elections by individual states.

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Here's a question I wonder about: does Trump like being president?  I think he likes the power.  I think he likes the attention.  But does he actually like the job?  He can have power and attention and do any number of things.  He's done enough where he can get (more) wealth and attention doing anything else.  He could "write" a book - he could get a movie easily made about his life.  He could get a TV show with just about any network.

I agree that he'd probably do anything to keep the job, but I can't imagine he likes the hours or the work.  He doesn't seem to like the press conferences.  I think he could have essentially everything like he likes about the job without the job.

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Trump is probably an addict who loathes his position but can't give it up. Much like me with pizza and Informant with Nazism.

Anyway. Biden could still screw this up and he has a long history of blowing his bids for president. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/0 … ump-348607

Will he? There's a good chance he'll manage just fine, but a few months ago, his campaign seemed deader than Season 6 of SLIDERS, so reversals can happen.

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He clearly hates the job, because he doesn't do it.  He doesn't read his briefings, and has failed to set policy objectives which Congress has any chance of passing.  Does he enjoy the power?  Most likely, but Trump is a narcissist, his ego must be filled continually.  He enjoys the reality show aspects, but not the actual job.  Trump's absurd projection of himself in the public sphere is what he covets the most. 

That is why I am fully positive that he's privately considering ALL options.  Voter suppression and Russian interference I'm sure are part of that discussion.  But I truly believe he's concocting exit strategies as we speak, based on his polling, Congressional support, emerging scandals, whatever.  He might be an idiot when it comes to public policy, but Trump is a savant when it comes to mapping out his own personal parachute.  As I've remarked many times, it's what he does.  Atlantic City, the USFL, an airline, golf courses, hotels, NBC show, steaks, phony charity, and a real estate university.  Each time, when the venture goes belly up, and usually in less than 4 years, he and his family always find a way to do a Blues Brothers under the stage and through the sewer escape.  I do not believe we will see Trump get blown out in November.  If that seems likely, he will get out.  The embarrassment of losing is what he will try to avoid at all costs.

Biden, well, look, in 1987 despite being a fairly well known Senator, he was still a national nobody.  He was cleared of the plagiarism, something today we'd all laugh about.  He wasn't the main candidate that year anyway, that was Gary Hart.  In 2008, yeah he ran, but again, he was not in the conversation early and raised no money so out he went.  This time around, unlike any time before, he stepped in as the front runner, the person that the rank and file were hoping to see run.  Despite gaffs and the Burisma nonsense, Tara Reade, and whatever else, Biden is still standing.  How?  The reason is clear, Trump.  Donald Trump's loathsomeness has kept the Biden campaign relevant to more voters than anyone else.  While the others tried to run on policies, Biden simply ran as the anti-Trump.  It's not a slogan, it's just a perception.  People know him, they trust him, some even like him.  But it's Trump, time and time again, who says and does things which make people cringe.  Then they see/hear Joe Biden, and despite his somewhat clumsy way of communicating, is somewhat reassuring.  He's like having your savings account FDIC insured.  If anyone expects Trump to tone down the rhetoric or develop a sane presence on TV, you need to see a therapist.  He's like a tooth ache.

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Here's a question I read online:

If Trump agreed to quit today, but in exchange, he got a 30-minute variety show that would be aired nightly until he died on *every* channel....would Americans be okay with that?  He gets to be on TV every night (with 100% ratings) for the rest of his life, and we get rid of Trump.  I'm 100% sure he'd do it - he brags about TV ratings for his briefings so I think the part he likes most about being president is the fact that everything he does is newsworthy.

But if he quit today, people would still have to call him Mr. President for the rest of his life.  He'd still have unlimited business opportunities.  And everything he did would still be newsworthy.

I figure he'd take that trade, especially if it meant he didn't have to lose.

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