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Topic: The Virtual Season 6 by Sliders.PL and the Brick Sliders by Brick Lady

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What if... the 6th season of Sliders was created?

In 2004, when I’ve created Polish fansite www.Sliders.PL I wanted to publish my own vision of “virtual” season 6. I even asked Alexslider from http://www.sliders-dimension.de/ to make an intro for me with all 8 sliders, which he did smile >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjB2m5IePrA.

Years passed and I forgot about my plan. Then in 2011 I’ve read great fan-fic "Slide Effects" by Ibrahim Ng/ireactions, the admin of this forum smile I loved this story so much, so I decided that if I ever made my season 6, I would use this fan-fic as a pilot. Ibrahim once wrote: «The "Slide Effects" script is yours: feel free to adapt and sequelize it».  So I did! smile

I've made some changes to Ibrahim Ng's idea. I also thought that although the fan-fic “Slide Effects” is an excellent continuation of the series, it is incomplete. I added a few more episodes to it and finally I present the grand finale. It concludes the arcs of not only the original Sliders, but also those alternative Sliders, whose fate ended in a huge cliffhanger in the episode 5x18 “The Seer.” This topic was not taken up by the fan-fic “Slide Effects,” which is why I decided to conceptualize 13 new episodes to build a full sixth season. As a result, Sliders would have a total of 101 episodes, or 100 if we count the two pilot episodes as one.

First episode of virtual 6th season of Sliders will be online on Wednesday 28th October on http://www.sliders.pl/season6.php. It will be promoted by Brick Sliders created by Agata! big_smile Ibrahim – you will see some scenes from your “Slide Effects”. Soon I will post more photos of Brick Sliders xD

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Sliders.PL presents a fan-made, direct continuation of Sliders, which ended with a cliffhanger in the final episode 5x18 entitled “The Seer.” On the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the series, we present our ideas for 13 episodes of the sixth virtual season, which resets certain themes while others we bring to conclusion. On our website we have published a list of all 13 episodes with summaries, plot descriptions and from where the ideas originated. 

Episode 6x01 is based on the great fanfic "Slide Effects," by Ibrahim Ng which reboots the events of the series in order to bring back the original four Sliders: Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Professor Arturo. The next 10 episodes are based on the comic books by Acclaim, which were published between 1996-1997. They describe adventures of the original four Sliders, which were supposed to take place parallel with the first televised season. However nothing prevents us from placing these events after the reboot, which happened in episode 6x01 “Slide Effects.” The final two episodes 6x12 and 6x13 are both original ideas of the Sliders.PL website. These stories combine two independent groups of Sliders and end themes that were omitted or unfinished in the television series including Kromaggs and Logan St. Claire.

The explanation of the following infographic will be included in the description of episode 6x01. Big version www.sliders.pl/gfx/odcinki/season6_infographic.jpg

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Social media:

https://twitter.com/SlidersPL
https://www.facebook.com/SlidersPL
https://www.instagram.com/sliderspl/

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Cez wrote:

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What if... the 6th season of Sliders was created?

In 2004, when I’ve created Polish fansite www.Sliders.PL I wanted to publish my own vision of “virtual” season 6. I even asked Alexslider from http://www.sliders-dimension.de/ to make an intro for me with all 8 sliders, which he did smile >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjB2m5IePrA.

Years passed and I forgot about my plan. Then in 2011 I’ve read great fan-fic "Slide Effects" by Ibrahim Ng/ireactions, the admin of this forum smile I loved this story so much, so I decided that if I ever made my season 6, I would use this fan-fic as a pilot. Ibrahim once wrote: «The "Slide Effects" script is yours: feel free to adapt and sequelize it».  So I did! smile

I've made some changes to Ibrahim Ng's idea. I also thought that although the fan-fic “Slide Effects” is an excellent continuation of the series, it is incomplete. I added a few more episodes to it and finally I present the grand finale. It concludes the arcs of not only the original Sliders, but also those alternative Sliders, whose fate ended in a huge cliffhanger in the episode 5x18 “The Seer.” This topic was not taken up by the fan-fic “Slide Effects,” which is why I decided to conceptualize 13 new episodes to build a full sixth season. As a result, Sliders would have a total of 101 episodes, or 100 if we count the two pilot episodes as one.

First episode of virtual 6th season of Sliders will be online on Wednesday 28th October on http://www.sliders.pl/season6.php. It will be promoted by Brick Sliders created by Agata! big_smile Ibrahim – you will see some scenes from your “Slide Effects”. Soon I will post more photos of Brick Sliders xD

http://www.sliders.pl/gfx/odcinki/season6/bricks_group1_small.jpg

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Sliders.PL presents a fan-made, direct continuation of Sliders, which ended with a cliffhanger in the final episode 5x18 entitled “The Seer.” On the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the series, we present our ideas for 13 episodes of the sixth virtual season, which resets certain themes while others we bring to conclusion. On our website we have published a list of all 13 episodes with summaries, plot descriptions and from where the ideas originated. 

Episode 6x01 is based on the great fanfic "Slide Effects," by Ibrahim Ng which reboots the events of the series in order to bring back the original four Sliders: Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Professor Arturo. The next 10 episodes are based on the comic books by Acclaim, which were published between 1996-1997. They describe adventures of the original four Sliders, which were supposed to take place parallel with the first televised season. However nothing prevents us from placing these events after the reboot, which happened in episode 6x01 “Slide Effects.” The final two episodes 6x12 and 6x13 are both original ideas of the Sliders.PL website. These stories combine two independent groups of Sliders and end themes that were omitted or unfinished in the television series including Kromaggs and Logan St. Claire.

The explanation of the following infographic will be included in the description of episode 6x01. Big version www.sliders.pl/gfx/odcinki/season6_infographic.jpg

http://www.sliders.pl/gfx/odcinki/season6_infographic_small.jpg

Social media:

https://twitter.com/SlidersPL
https://www.facebook.com/SlidersPL
https://www.instagram.com/sliderspl/


very exciting! looking forward to it.

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Cez wrote:

Years passed and I forgot about my plan. Then in 2011 I’ve read great fan-fic "Slide Effects" by Ibrahim Ng/ireactions, the admin of this forum smile I loved this story so much, so I decided that if I ever made my season 6, I would use this fan-fic as a pilot. Ibrahim once wrote: «The "Slide Effects" script is yours: feel free to adapt and sequelize it».  So I did! smile

Dear Lord - you're feeding the beast. And he is RAVENOUS.

Earth Prime | The Definitive Source for Sliders™

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Cez wrote:

Then in 2011 I’ve read great fan-fic "Slide Effects" by Ibrahim Ng/ireactions, the admin of this forum smile I loved this story so much, so I decided that if I ever made my season 6, I would use this fan-fic as a pilot. Ibrahim once wrote: «The "Slide Effects" script is yours: feel free to adapt and sequelize it».  So I did! smile

Well, this is very exciting, although please note I am merely the assistant administrator to the owner of this forum, Temporal Flux. Also, please be reminded that "Slide Effects" was a story by Tracy Torme. And The most up-to-date version of "Slide Effects" is a Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11KF … sp=sharing

I'm really happy that you're using "Slide Effects" as you see it. I never actually expected anyone to write any sequels. Even I didn't write any sequels; my subsequent SLIDERS story, SLIDERS REBORN at www.earthprime.com/reborn, does not take "Slide Effects" into account. I wrote "Slide Effects" for Nigel Mitchell, possibly SLIDERS' greatest writer. He wrote numerous Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo fanfics but told me that he became deeply demoralized with Season 4. He didn't like the new situation, he wanted to keep writing for the original quartet, and he felt like "Genesis" made all of his writing "out of date," as he put it. And I wrote "Slide Effects" to reposition his stories so that now, instead of happening before the events of Seasons 3 - 5, all of Nigel's stories now happen *after* Season 5. (I link to most of his tales here: http://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php?pid=7548#p7548)

I actually like to think that all fanfics ever written featuring Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo take place after the events of "Slide Effects," even though all those fanfics were published before a single word of "Slide Effects" were ever typed. But I'm happy that there will now be more.

I don't know how well it will fit for a Season 6 to focus on Maggie, Colin, Diana and Mallory's issues after "Slide Effects" repositioned the originals front and center and (politely?) set aside the subsequent cast members. But I confess, despite having repeatedly tried to write those other characters out, my writing inevitably declares that Maggie, Colin, Diana and Mallory are all sliders; it's just that Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo are the Sliders. I look forward to reading your stories and hope you'll do everything and anything you want.

**

TRANSMODIAR: "Did you ever write anything before SLIDERS? Anything when you were in college?"

ME: "Yeah! I wrote numerous outlines and versions of a novella where Quinn is confronted by a cosmic entity called The Avatar who offers to rewind time and restore the original sliders if Quinn will retrieve six magical components that have been scattered across the multiverse."

Transmodiar silently contemplates running away from his house, faking his death, fleeing the country and abandoning his wife and children to avoid having to hear any more of this story. (I'm assuming. I'm not a mind reader.)

ME: "Ultimately, I realized that the best solution was to have the original sliders restored as soon as possible and that the whole story of how they came back to life is never going to be as interesting as having them already alive."

Transmodiar silently thanks God that he has been spared. (I'm guessing. I don't know his brain.)

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ireactions wrote:

Also, please be reminded that "Slide Effects" was a story by Tracy Torme.

I know about this! smile It will be noted in the description of the episode. Btw, I haven't written scripts, but only summaries - a form of stories. It's much shorter form but I hope it will be OK for people smile

ireactions wrote:

I don't know how well it will fit for a Season 6 to focus on Maggie, Colin, Diana and Mallory's issues after "Slide Effects" repositioned the originals front and center and (politely?) set aside the subsequent cast members.

My vision of season 6 in 90% focus on original four Sliders, but I will include satisfying (I hope so wink ) ending for additional Sliders.

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So here it is! Sliders.PL presents 6x01 „Slide Effects” - the first episode of the virtual 6th season based on great fan-fic of Ibrahim Nb! You can read summary of the story here >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_1_en.php and the description >> www.sliders.pl/description6_1.php. Photo of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

Full season 6 will be published here – one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

http://www.sliders.pl/gfx/odcinki/season6/ep1_05_small.jpg

Episode 6x01 is based on the fanfic "Slide Effects" by Ibrahim Nb while the following 10 episodes are based on the comic book series by Acclaim. The final two episodes 6x12 and 6x13 are both original ideas of the Sliders.PL.

Please let me know what do you think about my interpretation of “Slide Effects” as the pilot of season 6 smile

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Hahaha! Those pictures are great. I know ireactions will likely get the first one tattooed across his back. smile

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Wow.

I don't know if SLIDERS: THE FINAL SLIDES was really meant to be an animated series. It was just a speculative essay on how "Slide Effects" could have been the start to an animated series.

I have mixed feelings about the first shot of Quinn waking up in his bedroom. It doesn't resemble the actual bedroom in the SLIDERS pilot, but given how cluttered and random all those elements were, I don't think anyone could have recreated it in Lego -- although a poster of the Milky Way might have been sufficient, although the photo of San Francisco is quite nice. Not sure about the truck; I think something sports related might have been a better decoration, but again -- it's Lego.

The shot of Quinn looking in the mirror to see Mallory, I really like. I like how it's a bathroom mirror instead of a mirror in Quinn's bedroom; Quinn in the Pilot definitely dressed like he didn't examine his own reflection often. It captures the stark shock of Quinn seeing the wrong face in the mirror except it's the face he'd expect to see, a sign of how troubled his identity became by Season 5.

I also like this shot of Rembrandt and Quinn in what looks like the Lamplighter instead of a steak house. And, to be frank, I don't think using some fictitious steakhouse for Rembrandt and Quinn's reunion in "Slide Effects" was a very good choice in retrospect. It was just an indoor, quiet setting where Quinn could sit across from Rembrandt, but this shot makes me wonder if Rembrandt would really have gone out to dinner after his performance or if he would have found somewhere quiet for a drink. At the time in 2011, I was not good at thinking about these things; I knew how the actors talked, but I didn't always have the greatest grasp of what their characters would do. I would go out for a steak after a big night. Rembrandt would get a beer. This is an improvement.

In terms of the separation point: because I didn't expect to write any SLIDERS stories after "Slide Effects," I decided that everything after Season 2 was a Kromagg simulation. This way, Arturo wouldn't be dying from a fatal disease ("The Guardian") and Logan St. Clair wouldn't be after them ("Double Cross"). But Torme wanted the separation point to be "The Guardian," the last episode he wrote. I think "Murder Most Foul" is a decent choice if you're doing sequels to "Slide Effects."

The scene of Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo in the Professor's lecture hall is quite sweet. I missed my friends so much and Cory and Tom on REWATCH PODCAST really highlighted this scene as something that they longed to have been filmed with the actors, and I see that it was also chosen here to render.

There's a very interesting rendering here of The Cave with the Kromagg lording over Quinn in a psychic landscape. In my writing, I tend to rip off the climax of Brian Michael Bendis' SPIDER-WOMAN series where the villain will find the worst possible thing to say to the lead character or to the reader. The worst possible thing I could think of at the time for Quinn was for the Kromagg to bring up Quinn's out of character behaviour in "Mother and Child," and the most hopeful thing I wanted to hear then was an explanation -- although I didn't plot out that explanation in the outline and let it come to me naturally when writing the dialogue, which was that Quinn subconsciously knew he was in a simulation and no longer believed in the scenario. What is that Kromagg figurine? The Kroamgg looks sadistic and cruel and Quinn looks like he's in agony. It's good work.

The blue sky and Lego clouds and the green grass is quite vivid and powerful. I also like how there is a ladder escorting the sliders out of the cave, although I would gently note that in the script, Wade and Rembrandt left the cave first and Wade had the timer, whereas in this rendering, Wade is exiting the cave last and Quinn is holding the timer -- but I suppose if you're doing a final shot for your rendering, you want Quinn Mallory to be standing at the front and holding the timer. I don't love the Season 4 vortex. But I'm sure it's the easiest one to cut out of a frame and composite into a photo of Lego. Anyway, that doesn't really matter; "Slide Effects" is yours now and Brick Lady is doing some nice stuff and I can't wait to see what you put on our screens next.

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Thank you for your review! smile

ireactions wrote:

This way, Arturo wouldn't be dying from a fatal disease ("The Guardian") and Logan St. Clair wouldn't be after them ("Double Cross").

I know about these problems and my vision of season 6th will conclude it smile

ireactions wrote:

What is that Kromagg figurine?

Brick Lady has told me that it was Pirates of the Caribbean big_smile

ireactions wrote:

"Slide Effects" is yours now and Brick Lady is doing some nice stuff and I can't wait to see what you put on our screens next.

I'm happy that you like it and I hope you will read next episodes too smile I'm curious what will you think about season/show finale big_smile

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Now you can watch a scene of Kromagg morphing big_smile

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Wow! This is really haunting and eerie and really captures the psychically aggressive tone of the original "Slide Effects" script. The Kromaggs were severely demystified in Season 4. I personally don't have a great take on the Kromaggs, but I decided that in my "Slide Effects" script, the Kromagg would never speak on its own and only deliver dialogue in the guise of the additional Season 3 - 5 sliders of Maggie, Colin, Diana and Mallory. On some level, this was, I confess, a gesture of disdain towards them. Those character were unwanted intruders, uninvited guests into my living room. In addition, the Kromagg was a representation of David Peckinpah, someone given an assignment he didn't care about and who resented the people who came with that assignment.

And yet, it didn't come off that way to most readers. All the feedback I got expressed appreciation that the faces of Maggie, Colin, Diana and Mallory were present in a story about going back to basics with Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo. One piece of fan mail that I got remarked that they preferred my take to any hypothetical "Slide Effects" fully scripted by Torme because Torme would most definitely not have included Maggie, Colin, Diana and Mallory (or even been familiar with those characters). And this is something I tried to get into with SLIDERS REBORN where I accepted Maggie, Colin, Diana and Mallory as important and wrote them as beloved characters that everyone would be happy to see even if Colin is an artificial intelligence with Charlie O'Connell's voice and Mallory is only in a lengthy dream sequence.

Back to "Slide Effects" -- the script is effectively declaring that he is haunted trauma and that the most traumatic events in his life were the death of Professor Arturo, the rape and mutilation of Wade Welles and that horrific Scene from "Mother and Child" and the scene of the Kromagg morphing into different personas has the Kromagg sadistically inflicting all of that on the original sliders. And I find this Lego construct really captures that cruelty that the sliders ultimately overcome.

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Sliders.PL presents 6x02 „Armada” - the second episode of the virtual 6th season based on Acclaim comic book.

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_2_en.php
Read the description >> www.sliders.pl/description6_2.php.

Full season 6 will be published here – one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

Photo of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

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Hmmm. I like the Lego illustrations which are vastly superior to the comic book.

ARMADA is an odd choice to position after "Slide Effects." I think that after "Slide Effects," the best follow-up would be something that declares the series is back to basics. Something more traditional, something closer to a Season 1 story. A parallel world with an alternate history. The sliders stumbling into danger and misunderstanding. A story without the overt science fiction technology and fantasy horror elements of Seasons 3 - 5. If you were to use the comics, I would have advised NARCOTICA.

ARMADA is just too... I don't agree with the idea that any story is out of bounds for SLIDERS. But I'm not sure that after dispensing with the Kromaggs in "Slide Effects," it's anything but repetitive to bring in the Zercurvians. And in the original comic version of ARMADA was sadly produced by a superhero writer and a superhero artist who stuck to their superhero style for SLIDERS. Neither them were overly familiar with the show, neither of them grasped the grounded indie-movie look of the series, and the results are bizarre. DG Chichester and Dick Giordano are great creators, but it's pretty obvious that they didn't have any time to properly review the show before they started scripting and drawing pages.

I think that if you want to apply superhero storytelling to the SLIDERS (and I do), the sliders themselves need to be recognizably the actors in scripting and nuance and their surroundings need to be less heightened and more atmospheric. And the humour needs to have a certain knowing self-awareness which ARMADA doesn't have. ARMADA doesn't grasp how insane it is.

I have always wanted to see the Professor zipline from one building to the next using his suit jacket, but I would want to see it with something of the terror John Rhys-Davies presented when bungee jumping in "The Guardian." A SLIDERS comic book in the 90s would have been better off looking less like an issue of AVENGERS and more like an issue of SANDMAN with eerie art from Chris Bachalo and pensive writing from the likes of Neil Gaiman.

The Lego representation captures the lunacy I'd be hoping for, a cheerful absurdity that seems absent in the largely unaware comic book.

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ireactions wrote:

ARMADA is an odd choice to position after "Slide Effects."

You will see there is a bigger plan about that wink Keep reading till the end big_smile

Look at this! smile John Rhys-Davies has sent to me this beautiful message! <3 The actor likes virtual Season 6 and Brick Sliders smile I’ve explained to him that these figures made by Agata are very unique – only she has them.

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That's pretty great! Maybe Lady Brick would make him a set. It's amazing when actors get involved and interested in fan fiction and media tie-in material. David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson did some promotion for the now non-canon X-FILES comics and Mark Hamill recorded a commercial for the STAR WARS novel VECTOR PRIME and William Shatner wrote 10 STAR TREK novels, but this is a special moment for the virtual Season 6.

I once wrote a SLIDERS script for an actor. I'd been writing SLIDERS REBORN focused mostly on the original quartet. But as Maggie and Diana entered the story, I felt bad about omitting Mallory, especially after doing an EarthPrime.com interview with the actor, Robert Floyd. Finally, I forced myself to write Part 5 of REBORN, "Revolution," in which Quinn hallucinates Mallory. I sent it to Floyd and he thanked me and said he'd let me know what he thought. He didn't -- probably because he hasn't seen that much SLIDERS and didn't really understand it. Cory of the REWATCH PODCAST when reviewing SLIDERS REBORN in a podcast remarked that Cory himself had watched every episode of SLIDERS and Cory could barely understand what was going on.

I think it's just splendid that John likes the Lego.

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Keep up the great work Cez.  Thank you for your rollout of Season 6!

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Sliders.PL presents 6x03 „Harvest Time” - the THIRD EPISODE of the virtual Season 6.

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_3_en.php
Read the description (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_3.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

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Fun episode Cez.  Would have required a lot of  budget and special effects!

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As always, I really like the Lego which is incredibly charming, idiosyncratic and appealing. The sliders on the the staircases is a gorgeously eerie visual. The sliders standing in the temple is a beautifully alien environment rendered perfectly in this medium. The Reticulans are alarming and frightening. And the feast at the end is very cute with all the sliders enjoying their lavish sweets.

But the story. Oh, the story. This has nothing to do with Cez's work at all, but ARMADA just does not work for me and does not capture the appeal of the series which was not about these bizarre sci-fi aliens -- but about the sliders exploring the social and cultural differences of a history not their own. ARMADA doesn't attempt to do that at all. Now, to be fair, social commentary and grounded environments have not been at the core of some of the best SLIDERS stories. "Double Cross" had plenty of sci-fi setpieces and car chases with only the barest of references to environmental crisis. "Murder Most Foul" was a Victorian crime drama that didn't comment much on the genre or a world so devoted to entertainment. "World Killer" was about the sliding technology, not the social commentary.

But "Invasion," a story that emphasized the sci-fi aliens, deliberately kept the Kromaggs at a distance, largely only perceived from the sliders' limited, human perspective. ARMADA doesn't do that; the sliders regard inhuman, otherworldly threats with confidence and aplomb and are never truly challenged or outmatched. This is again representative of how Acclaim rushed the SLIDERS comics into production, didn't give their creators time to engage with the series to appreciate its visual tone or performances or writing style -- and the result is a superhero comic book and an odd fit for the SLIDERS.

I suppose I am as guilty of this as anybody, but I would argue that for all the sci-fi excesses, SLIDERS REBORN is fundamentally about Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo, asking who they became after they got home, what they did between 2000 and 2015, and what sliding would be like for them if it were their profession and career. I feel I earned the superhero craziness that ends REBORN and built to it gradually whereas ARMADA starts with the superhero style and it is jarring and rings false to me. We all have very different perceptions of SLIDERS; I think that SLIDERS is about the sliders. Temporal Flux would argue, quite correctly, that SLIDERS is about a gently satirical tone that predicts the future and depicts it in an alternate present and justifies it with an alternate past and makes amusing comments about our society and culture but through inversion rather than forceful judgement. Other fans would argue that SLIDERS is about strong world building and asking what might have been if history had gone a different path; some fans declare that it is futile to define a SLIDERS story because you can go anywhere in imagination.

But ARMADA does not feel like SLIDERS to me; it doesn't have a strong depiction of the sliders, it doesn't have a believably human perspective on the sci-fi lunacy, it doesn't even have anything important to say. It's a superhero comic book writer and artist handed the SLIDERS license, a few VHS cassettes of the episodes, some headshots of the actors, and a tight deadline by which they must hack out some scripts and pages.

None of which has anything to do with the Lego which is lovely. :-)

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WOW! John Rhys-Davies wants a set of the Lego figurines. Jerry O'Connell thinks it's cool! Congratulations!

I once sent Jerry a message asking him if he wanted to rewrite any of Quinn's dialogue in SLIDERS REBORN and asked if he'd be willing to do it sober and engaged and if he could keep his brother out of it. Never heard back. Can't imagine why.

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Congratulations Cez!

You've taken a very creative approach and it's good to see John and Jerry acknowledge it.

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RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

Congratulations Cez!

You've taken a very creative approach and it's good to see John and Jerry acknowledge it.

Thank you big_smile Robert Floyd also likes it big_smile

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Ah great to see that Cez.  Glad Rob is so enthusiastic.

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I think that the success of the Lego really speaks to how social media functions. As much as I love novellas like Nigel Mitchell's X-FILES crossover with SLIDERS and scripts like SLIDERS DECLASSIFIED, the internet operates best in a visual medium and Lego is so immediate, versatile and instantly appreciable. The graphics are so memorable and charming, the intricate and painstaking effort is clear and it has clearly struck a note with the actors as well as the fans. Congratulations!

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Plus, LEGO fucking rules. (It especially rules at fucking destroying the soft underside of my feet.)

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Sliders.PL presents 6x04 „Rapture” - the FOURTH EPISODE of the virtual Season 6 smile

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_4_en.php
Read the description (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_4.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

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You update too often! You should be like Earth Prime, and put out an update once every two years or so. tongue

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Sliders.PL presents 6x05 „Damnation” - the FIFTH EPISODE of the virtual Season 6.

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_5_en.php
Read the description (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_5.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

Photos of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

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I can't keep up smile  I wish you guys shifted to once every couple of weeks smile

Next episode looks amazing though.

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RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I can't keep up smile  I wish you guys shifted to once every couple of weeks smile

It's week after week because we are simulating the real television season hehe big_smile

Look at this funny Lego animation - Sliders jump into the vortex big_smile Turn on the sound! >> https://www.facebook.com/SlidersPL/post … 1937694045

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Cez wrote:
RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I can't keep up smile  I wish you guys shifted to once every couple of weeks smile

It's week after week because we are simulating the real television season hehe big_smile

Look at this funny Lego animation - Sliders jump into the vortex big_smile Turn on the sound! >> https://www.facebook.com/SlidersPL/post … 1937694045


brilliant big_smile

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Sliders.PL presents 6x06 „Fissions of the Soul” - the SIXTH EPISODE of the virtual Season 6.

There is Vern from "Stand by Me" in this episode xD

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_6_en.php
Read the description (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_6.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

Photos of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

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well done Cez!

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RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

well done Cez!

I'm happy that you like it big_smile

So here we go again big_smile

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Sliders.PL presents 6x07 „Dimensional Shadows” - the SEVENTH EPISODE of the virtual Season 6.

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_7_en.php
Read the description (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_7.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

Photos of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

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Sliders.PL presents 6x08 „Ticking Clock” - the CRUCIAL, EIGHTH EPISODE of the virtual Season 6.

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_8_en.php
Read the description (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_8.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

Photos of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

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Sliders.PL presents 6x09 „Narcotica” - the NINTH EPISODE of the virtual Season 6. It is based on the comic written by Jerry O’Connell!

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_9_en.php
Read the description (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_9.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

Photos of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

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Thank you Cez.  Your project is a lot of fun!

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I think it's important to highlight what a massive endeavour any virtual season of fanfic is for everyone involved. There's a lot of time, talent and work put into these passion projects and nobody gets paid. You do it at a loss. And there is a lot of love and fondness and obsession with the series and its characters to make this happen. My therapist referred to SLIDERS fan fiction on this level as the equivalent of a master's thesis.

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Sliders.PL presents 6x10 „Blood and Splendor” - the TENTH EPISODE of the virtual Season 6 and 98th episode of Sliders!

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_10_en.php
Read the description (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_10.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

Photos of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

THE ANNOUNCEMENT >> after releasing the last, 13th episode I will make a contest! The winner will get a t-shirt with Sliders logo smile (you can see it here >> https://twitter.com/SlidersPL/status/13 … 0642840581) It will be a quiz - participants will answer some questions about 13 episodes of Season 6. You have still time to catch up and read all of them smile

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Out of appreciation and respect for your work, I’d like to raise the prize for you. I’d like to offer the winner of your contest the Sliders: The Complete Series DVD Mill Creek box set. I’ll have my copy sent to the winner. My email address is at the top of this message forum.

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Wow, wow, wow, thank you big_smile I even don't have it, because it's Region 1 dvd and I live in Europe, I have in my collection Region 2 German Blu-Ray complete edition (with autograph of John Rhys-Davies <3 ). It will work only in USA and Canada, right?

So I suppose the winner should get a t-shirt and a dvd box, right? But if the winner come from Europe or Asia, he/she will have a problem with running the dvd xD

Ok, I'll send you e-mail about it after New Year Eve smile

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The Mill Creek release is Region 1.

What's the video quality like on that blu-ray set? The DVD video quality is ghastly on all releases due to overcompression to fit more episodes onto fewer discs.

I'm happy to contribute. A lot of people helped me with my SLIDERS magnum opus.

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ireactions wrote:

I'm happy to contribute. A lot of people helped me with my SLIDERS magnum opus.

Great! smile Thank you smile I'll write to you about this.

ireactions wrote:

What's the video quality like on that blu-ray set?


The Blu-Ray German edition >> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sliders-Comple … B01MCZ0Q6R

All episodes are on Blu-Ray discs but the quality is SD, not HD. It's DVD quality. I've bought it because it's probably the only complete editon with 5 seasons for Region 2. Fortunatly there are not only German voices, but original English too smile Unfortunaly in my country, in Poland, Sliders has never been released on DVD or Blu-Ray sad We have some Polish subtitles and also version with Polish lector (male voice who reads the dialougs), but these rips from tv are only in the web wink

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It's a shame. I've read on Amazon that the blu-ray set has the same DVD quality as one of the previous releases, I'm not sure which, but they were all pretty awful.

I actually have a Universal set of Season 3 (Region 1). I wanted to show my niece "The Guardian" and my Mill Creek set wasn't playing that disc correctly although after I received the Universal set, I realized my Mill Creek disc just needed a good wipe. Season 3 is the season of grief and I would actually pay someone to take the Season 3 DVD set away from me, but no one has ever wanted to go within five feet of it.

I used to wander through Best Buys back when Best Buys sold DVDs and I would always take all the SLIDERS Season 3 DVD sets off the racks and put them in microwaves or fridges to stop anyone from buying them. Maybe some day, there will be an animated LEGO DVD set of SLIDERS sold in stores if DVDs are still sold by then.

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Sliders.PL presents 6x11 „Deadly Secrets” - the ELEVENTH EPISODE of the virtual Season 6 and 99th episode of Sliders!

This is the last episode based on the comic books. Only two episodes left till the end!

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_11_en.php
Read the description (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_11.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

Photos of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

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My kid has the Saturn V - it's enormous. Kudos for keeping this going!

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It's really an incredible achievement from Cez and Agata Agl. They should be so proud of what they've accomplished. The quirky charm, excitement and joy they take in their interpretation of SLIDERS is glowingly vivid and palpable. And they richly deserve the accolades they've gotten from the actors who were in the live action show.

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YES! big_smile Kari Wuhrer has written to us on Instagram, that she misses the show and that she would like to do another season of Sliders! smile We’re honoured that the actors like our virtual Season 6 and Brick Sliders! smile Kari is the 4th member of the cast who has written few words to us smile

The link to Kari's comment >> https://www.instagram.com/p/CJynBfmlBGi/

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ireactions wrote:

It's really an incredible achievement from Cez and Agata Agl. They should be so proud of what they've accomplished. The quirky charm, excitement and joy they take in their interpretation of SLIDERS is glowingly vivid and palpable. And they richly deserve the accolades they've gotten from the actors who were in the live action show.

Thank you for these words! smile <3

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Congratulations Cez!

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Sliders.PL presents 6x12 „Convergence, Part I” - the first part of the virtual Season 6 finale and 100th episode of the show!

I promised I would answer many unanswered questions - so here they are! smile Please let me know what do you think about my story!

Read the summary >> www.sliders.pl/summary6_12_en.php
Read the description with many details! (and see new Brick Sliders photos!) >> www.sliders.pl/description6_12.php.

Full Season 6 is published here - one episode per week (only one episode left!) >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

Photos of Brick Sliders by Agata Agl.

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ireactions >> now you can understand why I wanted to introduce the Zercurvians so early in this season, right after the pilot "Slide Effects" wink

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan >> thank you! smile

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The Lego is gorgeous. There's a wonderful sense of seeing Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt, Arturo, Maggie, Colin, Mallory and Diana -- all in the same story, all together, all sliders, all legitimate and important and with a place in the SLIDERS mythology.

This is something most SLIDERS fan projects just can't pull off. It's difficult because any story trying to pick up the plot threads of "The Seer" has to address resurrecting the Professor, rescuing Wade, splitting the Quinns, explaining Colin, liberating Earth Prime from the Kromaggs -- and all of these stories are completely separate plots with their own individual core themes and emotional points. Even a resurrected Ernest Hemingway would take a look at this shopping list of tasks to be accomplished in one story and kill himself again.

So "Convergence" does something clever by piggy-backing off "Slide Effects." "Slide Effects" was effectively triggering a system restore on SLIDERS, activating a backup of the original SLIDERS made before the Professor's death. "Convergence" then has original sliders encounter the Season 5 sliders -- and by making it clear that the Season 2 sliders are not the Season 5 sliders but a separate set entirely, "Convergence" is clear that our sliders have accidentally slid into somebody else's TV show and are looking at a version of their lives where everything went horribly wrong.

This is a very neat approach. I have read every Season 6 fanfic and I think "Convergence"'s approach in having the Season 2 and Season 5 casts meet each other as doubles is truly unique among SLIDERS stories, and that's even before the beautiful Lego work.

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ireactions wrote:

This is a very neat approach. I have read every Season 6 fanfic and I think "Convergence"'s approach in having the Season 2 and Season 5 casts meet each other as doubles is truly unique among SLIDERS stories, and that's even before the beautiful Lego work.

Thank you for your review smile I'm happy that you like it! I know that I've made things very fast in this episode, probably in real show there should be 2 or even 3 episodes about this story, but I wanted to get all missing Sliders as fast as possible.

In the past I wanted Season 6 to be concentrated on resurrecting the old cast, for example in one episode Arturo would be back, in the next one Quinn, in next Wade... But I've decided that the core of Season 6 should be the rule "every episode = new world, new adventure". That's why I've included explanations of "The Seer" clifhanger at the very end, so it won't take too much time. I wanted to focus on original 4 Sliders but in the same time I wanted to make a closure for the rest. But as you noticed our original 4 Sliders have met only Maggie, Colin, Mallory and Diana (and some other guest stars wink ). The alternative Sliders are searching home, they are somewhere. I think that if in this episode not 8 but 12 Sliders met, it would be probably too much xD

So... wait for the next, the final episode! smile

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Many Season 6 writers have tried to resurrect the cast one 'episode' at a time -- and it still doesn't quite work because there's something very artificial about it. It makes sense to have Rembrandt come out of his vortex to find the original Professor who finds a way to return to "The Seer" Earth to split the Quinns.

But then it becomes contrived that the Professor and Quinn can shortly retrieve Colin who quickly reveals that he's a Kromagg-created clone and spy who reveals that the Earth in "Genesis" wasn't the Earth in the Pilot. And that Wade turns out to be alive with her appearance in "Requiem" being a clone as well. There's no rationale for why all these events happen in rapid succession except that they're on the writer's to-do list, but there's also no narrative purpose to having a lot of sidequests with the Season 5 cast when the end goal is to restore the original cast.

"Slide Effects" by Tracy Torme does well to have all the characters restored by Page 1 simply by having time rewound to the Pilot with everyone alive again. And "Convergence" does well to have the original sliders encounter the Season 5 sliders and experience these events at a slight remove where they're learning about an alternative set of sliders and their story.

There's another issue with resurrecting the original cast -- the situation demands an explanation for why Seasons 1 - 2 had alternate histories but Season 3 suddenly had dragons and vampires and Dream Masters and breeder parasites and shapeshifting serial killers. Some aspects of Season 3 can fit into the Season 1 - 2 mythos as advanced technology -- the killer robots and the zombies being genetically mutilated humans -- but Season 3 flat out declares that magic swords and telekinetic vampires and supernatural fogs and immortality-granting slugs are a part of the SLIDERS multiverse. Yet, Seasons 4 - 5 abruptly features no magic at all and insists that any fantasy elements are technological. What's going on here?

"Slide Effects" guardedly indicated that all the monsters and such were the result of the Kromagg mixing and matching the experiences of different sets of sliders and warping various details into the version we saw on TV. But one wonders -- why did the alternative sliders experience all these odd paranormal events where the original sliders only ran into Dream Masters and dragons?

Temporal Flux once half-seriously offered an explanation: Logan St. Clair altered the timer in "Double Cross." The timer originally used a laser-gyro system to serve as the geographic spectrum stabilizer, keeping the sliders within two miles. Logan put in a whispering gallery system which widened the range to 400 miles. If I recall correctly: TF suggested that it also widened the multiversal range of the timer; that the multiverse may be arranged in 'stacks' of universes; the Earths in Seasons 1 - 2 were in the same stack and operated on the same scientific principles whereas the whispering gallery shifted the sliders into encountering multiverses in other stacks containing monsters and magic and abominations like Colonel Rickman and Maggie Beckett.

The PVTOnline Season 6 fan fiction embraced this idea wholeheartedly. When the timer switched to the Egyptian timer, the sliders cannibalized the original device for parts to keep the new device working and they continued in the same paranormal stack until after "This Slide of Paradise" when Quinn's repairs to the timer to track Rembrandt and Wade repositioned them within a stack of technology driven parallel worlds.

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ireactions wrote:

Temporal Flux once half-seriously offered an explanation: Logan St. Clair altered the timer in "Double Cross." The timer originally used a laser-gyro system to serve as the geographic spectrum stabilizer, keeping the sliders within two miles. Logan put in a whispering gallery system which widened the range to 400 miles. If I recall correctly: TF suggested that it also widened the multiversal range of the timer; that the multiverse may be arranged in 'stacks' of universes; the Earths in Seasons 1 - 2 were in the same stack and operated on the same scientific principles whereas the whispering gallery shifted the sliders into encountering multiverses in other stacks containing monsters and magic and abominations like Colonel Rickman and Maggie Beckett.

The PVTOnline Season 6 fan fiction embraced this idea wholeheartedly. When the timer switched to the Egyptian timer, the sliders cannibalized the original device for parts to keep the new device working and they continued in the same paranormal stack until after "This Slide of Paradise" when Quinn's repairs to the timer to track Rembrandt and Wade repositioned them within a stack of technology driven parallel worlds.

Interesting theory! I've never heard about this.

ireactions wrote:

Wade turns out to be alive with her appearance in "Requiem" being a clone as well.

Why do you think this Wade was a clone? First in "Convergence" I wanted to explain it this way - this Cyberiad-Wade was only a clone and the rest of the Sliders would meet real-alternate Wade some other way, but then I decided that I prefere thinking that Season 5 cast really met Wade. Yes, she was badly wounded, she almost died, but she survived, probably with a lot of scars... The Year Five Journal convinced me that it was real Wade and she didn't die at the end of "Requiem".

https://earthprime.com/year-5-journal/requiem-journal

"The most important provision was that, in the end, somehow the audience must know that Wade is somehow alive and well, perhaps in some kind of altered state."

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I didn’t think the Wade in “Convergence” was a clone — but many Season 6 writers have taken that tactic because “Requiem” indicated that Wade’s body had been destroyed but her consciousness was somehow still in existence.

When writing my own SLIDERS stories, I’ve generally decided that I don’t want Wade to be a rape victim and I also have trouble believing that the Kromaggs would have even been able to hold Wade captive for more than a week. This is Wade Welles we’re talking about.

And you and I clearly agree that it’s absurd that the master manipulator Kromaggs would have wasted an asset like Wade by sending her to a rape camp when they had plans for Quinn; they would likely have made her a sleeper agent and returned her to Quinn to spy on him as opposed to creating a clone to pretend to be his brother.

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There was a point when Recall and I were hammering out the beats of an alternate season 4, where "Mother and Child" actually resulted in the rescue of Wade. Our version was "Mother and Child" in name only (if that; I can't remember), and the nature of the breeding camps was changed dramatically as well.

The idea was that, instead of it being a place where Kromaggs can get their rocks off, it was a highly technological and sterile facility  where the human subjects were not raped, but were "incubators" of Kromagg children. The women are barely even aware it's happening, since they're in suspended animation/stasis throughout the ordeal. The Sliders stage a daring infiltration of the facility and rescue Wade - but the cliffhanger reveal is that Wade has been successfully implanted.

Successive episodes dealt with Wade struggling to get an abortion on another world while trying to acclimate herself to sliding again. She would have paired off in an unlikely friendship with Colin, who could lend a sympathetic ear to her plight since he was a stranger. Quinn would have to slowly earn her trust again, since she blamed him, in part, for her predicament.

In any case, there would have been no rape. It was clinical, surgical, and showed how little regard the Kromaggs held for humanity. That's the way it could have been on the series as well, but, well... David Peckinpah is a perv!

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Yeah, in my Season 6 I also rejected a rape. I wanted to be sure that Wade wasn't hurt too much. I've written this:

http://www.sliders.pl/summary6_12_en.php
Wade began her story about how she was kidnapped by the Dynasty from the same prison where Remmy was held. First Wade was transported to the breeding colony, where she met, among others, Christina Griffin. However, she was quickly taken to the next world, because the Kromaggs did not want to make her a slave. They wanted to be careful with her in case they would need her as a bargaining chip against Quinn, who was looking for a way to bypass the Slidecage. She was imprisoned in a cell with good conditions until the plan of bypassing the Slidecage with Quinn's help was lost. Then the Kromaggs decided to use their backup plan. They put Wells in a jar of green liquid as the ultimate weapon called a Cyberiad.

Btw, I've just posted a funny Lego-video about rescuing Quinn and Colin xD >> https://twitter.com/SlidersPL/status/13 … 0557433858 This is the interpretation of my story made by Agata, Brick Lady wink

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Eeeeeek, Quinn restored!!!

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I have to say, I am deeply disappointed in Transmodiar. I was hoping he would chastise me for saying Wade Welles could not be held captive, saying I have a ridiculously overinflated view of the sliders' abilities.

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I always liked Recall and Transmodiar's idea that the commandant in "Genesis" telling Quinn that "once a woman's had a Magg, she can never go back" was just a jibe to upset Quinn and that the real rape camps were sterile, sexless labs (much like my personality at times).

I have always been deeply, deeply uncomfortable with Wade being in a rape camp. The term "breeder camp" is, to me, an unacceptable euphemism because Peckinpah (apparently) couldn't get away with saying "rape" on television at the time. Peckinpah wanted to hurt Sabrina Lloyd by raping her character. When a fan in pre-Season 4 online chat asked Kari Wuhrer how Sabrina would be written out, Kari Wuhrer said, "With some fun and humor: you see, she's good breeding stock."

There is a special place in hell for men who abuse women with rape jokes -- but given that Peckinpah was reeling from the grief of his teenaged son's death and in the throes of a serious drug addiction at the time that would ultimately kill him, I no longer hope that he's in hell. I hope he found peace and found his way back home.

There is a special place in hell for women who abuse other women with rape jokes -- but Kari Wuhrer apologized to Sabrina Lloyd and Lloyd accepted it. Also, Wuhrer found her career take a serious hit when her breast implants malfunctioned and she had them removed, and her career took another hit when she got fired off a soap opera for being pregnant and not being conventionally attractive to the male gaze. Maybe that was her hell and she's served her sentence and been released.

Wade Welles should not have been put in this position, should not have been used this way.

But paradoxically, I also find it incredibly offensive and upsetting to retcon Wade's rape out of the story. I think it is outrageous to say that women need to forget having been raped. And yet, I have done it twice in my own SLIDERS stories: "Slide Effects" declares that the Wade we saw from Season 3 onward was a double -- an amalgamation of 37 doubles -- which indicates one of the 37 Wades was raped, just not the Wade we met in the Pilot and whose adventures we followed for the Tracy Torme years.

Most women aren't going to discover that their trauma and assaults were actually a hallucinatory telepathic prison and also experienced by a double from a parallel universe.

SLIDERS REBORN declares that there were two timelines: one where the original sliders experienced four years of wonderful adventures together, but then Dr. Oberon Geiger's Combine experiment ripped Quinn and all his doubles out of existence and corrupted reality, retroactively altering the past into the version of SLIDERS that we saw on TV with monsters, magic, the invasion of Earth, Wade's capture, etc. -- and then the disembodied post-"Requiem" Wade is reset and restored to her original timeline self, a version who has no memory of the corrupted timeline.

Most women probably aren't going to have reality rewritten around them to excise having been attacked.

I can't defend my writing (and Transmodiar might say I shouldn't, haha). At least "Convergence" indicates that the Kromaggs were just trying to upset Quinn and of course they wouldn't have done anything to damage a valuable intelligence asset like Wade Welles. They would have had far more important uses for her.

In my stories -- I simply did not feel that Wade or the readers would be well-served by giving David Peckinpah's violent fantasies about Sabrina Lloyd any more oxygen. But I do not defend the offensive implications of that decision.

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A final word: one of the characters in SLIDERS REBORN is Laurel, Quinn Mallory's teenaged daughter. She's based on my niece and when I was writing SLIDERS REBORN, she assumed veto power over anything and everything involving her character. There was a scene where some men corner Laurel and try to rape her and Laurel discovers she has fighting skills she didn't realize she had.

My niece told me that she'd appreciate not being put in such a scene because the threat of rape had a weight and horror that was well beyond what my lightweight sci-fi sitcom adventure could portray appropriately. I rewrote the scene so that Laurel would be cornered by men seeking to harvest her organs which turned out to be far more disturbing and suited to the story.

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Re: The Virtual Season 6 by Sliders.PL and the Brick Sliders by Brick Lady

So here it is smile After 20 years of waiting for the answers it’s the end of Sliders!

Sliders.PL presents 6x13 „Convergence, Part II” - - THE LAST EPISODE OF SLIDERS! Please let me know what do you think about the story!

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Full Season 6 is published here >> www.sliders.pl/season6.php

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