I guess the reboot script is probably best in that the actors won't need to try imitating the actors. They can be their own versions of Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo. It'd be silly to do SLIDE EFFECTS or SLIDERS REBORN because both are using the reader's familiarity with Jerry, Sabrina, Cleavant and John to summon their voices to the story. The 2013 script was still doing a pastiche of the 1995 actors, although it wouldn't be hard for decent actors to interpret the lines in their own way.

Well, that's up to you. I certainly won't stand in the way. But they did a PRISONER adaptation where they found a completely charmless performer to play Patrick McGoohan's suave, forceful, aloof, outraged, gallant Number Six. They don't seem to be very good at casting. The Alice Drake character was supposed to be an English spy and should sound like Emma Thompson speaking perfect English. For some reason, they cast someone with truly peculiar pronunciation and a hesitant line delivery that gives the impression she doesn't know the language.

I think Tom and Cory's impressions are fine as comedy spoofs, but impressions don't really lend themselves to drama.

I've only listened to the X Files stuff, about an hour of it. They don't use actual X Files characters, they play within the universe. I was very impressed by the quality of production, considering its completely a volunteer-based effort.

Casting some of the Sliders characters could be tough, but given that we presumably won't be getting any audio-visual material out of the franchise going forward, I certainly would like to see someone take a crack at it. If it ends up being really bad, I figure nothing is lost.

I think Tom and Cory's impressions are fine as comedy spoofs, but impressions don't really lend themselves to drama.

I would never stop anyone from doing an audio adaptation of SLIDERS REBORN, but I also wouldn't encourage them. I've heard their PRISONER audioplay and it's terrible, completely failing to capture the charm of the lead character's performance. I think having impressionists perform SLIDERS REBORN is completely self-defeating; the point of the REBORN scripts is that they are pastiches of the actors.

The reason the scripts are lengthier than one would expect: the scripts don't just contain the dialogue. They contain all the acting as well. The body language. The physical behaviour. These are imagination-fuelled simulations of Jerry, Sabrina, Cleavant and John -- so that when you read it, you can hear those actors in your head as opposed to impressionists.

I don't think SLIDERS REBORN is really suited to anything other than it's current format. It's a media tie-in novel that uses screenplay format.

Anyway. I also wouldn't submit anything that isn't done. SLIDERS REBORN will finish in 2016, though. The Rewatch Podcast boys can confirm that I just sent them a beat sheet for the final installment -- it's just lacking in details I want to add in before scripting in full.

Would you mind if I submitted Sliders 2013 to them for consideration?

I know you weren't happy with it but myself and everyone I shared it with loved it.

The reason the scripts are lengthier than one would expect: the scripts don't just contain the dialogue. They contain all the acting as well. The body language. The physical behaviour. These are imagination-fuelled simulations of Jerry, Sabrina, Cleavant and John -- so that when you read it, you can hear those actors in your head as opposed to impressionists.

I don't think SLIDERS REBORN is really suited to anything other than it's current format. It's a media tie-in novel that uses screenplay format.

Anyway. I also wouldn't submit anything that isn't done. SLIDERS REBORN will finish in 2016, though. The Rewatch Podcast boys can confirm that I just sent them a beat sheet for the final installment -- it's just lacking in details I want to add in before scripting in full.

http://brokensea.com/?page_id=2

They've done fan fic audio dramas for the Dr. Who and X Files franchises before and the production quality I've heard is really professional. I bet Tom and Corey might even be able to provide some assistance if something were to come to fruition.

Submissions:

http://brokensea.com/?page_id=124

PS. Hey everybody.

"THE FORCE AWAKENS is ice cream for dinner. It’s full of familiar things, sometimes with just a new name on them. It’s filled with familiar characters, who have - in true fan fiction style - reverted to fan-favorite versions of themselves. It reinforces and reiterates what we already love, if slightly changed around and mashed up to be a bit more fan-friendly.

"For STAR WARS to escape the stigma of just being corporate-appointed fanfic someone needs to redefine what STAR WARS is. If STAR WARS has, until now, been George Lucas, the right move isn’t to just ape what Lucas has done but to do something blazingly new."

SLIDERS REBORN is guilty of many of these charges -- wanting to right the wrongs of the 1995 show, mimicking the Pilot episode in plot structure. Matt was telling me about the most emotional script he'd ever written. I remarked that "Reunion" was my most emotional because there was almost no thought put into the plotting -- it was simply my feelings and emotions with regards to SLIDERS. I wanted to know that Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo were okay and had been as of two minutes after "The Seer" ended. Writing it was a process of working my emotions into a 20-years-later pastiche of the Pilot in order to pay tribute to how it all started.

"So what you're saying," Matt crowed, "is that it's easy to be derivative!" Yes. But at the same time, I trust my storytelling instincts. Not my plotting -- my plotting has regularly needed a Nigel Mitchell or a Matt Hutaff to sort it out -- but I trust my instincts in terms of charting an emotional course for the story and making it feel vivid, compelling and worthwhile.

And what my instincts told me was that it would feel false and awkward if in 2015, Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo were hanging out and all lived in the same house and ate all their meals together. That would be ice cream for dinner. Even operating from the position that SLIDERS REBORN is like a DOCTOR WHO novel -- written for fans who know the show inside out -- it wouldn't work to have the original four all together at the start of REBORN.

Most Season 6 fanfics have tried to resolve all the unfinished plots point by point, immediately after "The Seer." It's always a mess. REBORN had a 15-year time gap that could be used to create distance between "The Seer" and today. This allowed for the present-day situation to be whatever was best for the characters with the justification that something in the last 15 years had resulted in an Earth Prime where the Kromagg invasion never happened. It's absurd -- and only feels plausible if the unknown events of the time gap are emphasized -- which required that the characters be distant from each other to reflect the distance of the 1995 series and the way it ended.

"Reprise" showed the characters instantly resurrected. As charming as this is, the sliders being together at the start of the 2015 story would then demand that the magic of "Reprise" be explained, which would immediately sink any sense of mystery or magic. Having the sliders apart left it vague, undefined, mysterious and created a sense of myth and wonder.

Was this delaying what was wanted by some guy who only bothered to read 50 pages before writing the whole thing off? Yes, because you have to stretch before you sprint. The audience has not seen Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo together since 1997; to pretend like they were never apart would feel false, whereas to have them split up and gradually meeting up again would feel real because it mirrors the real-world situation. It would feel like fan service unless it were earned.

The other aspect of fanfic that Faraci critiques is that it rarely creates anything new, instead pastiching what previously existed. A new work on an existing property, to move beyond being just a pastiche, has to find an effective way for the writer to use existing characters to express the new writer's heart. This is a critique that REBORN most definitely does not rise above.

REBORN is a pastiche -- not of the SLIDERS scripts as written by Torme and Weiss, but of the actors who played the characters. It's a print-and-prose approximation of the performers' speech patterns, line deliveries, body language and physical interaction -- and in that sense, REBORN is unlike the majority of most SLIDERS fanfics mainly because most SLIDERS fanfics were written when the show was on the air and shortly after the cancellation as opposed to being written by someone who spent 15 years obsessively studying "As Time Goes By" and "Luck of the Draw." Most fanfic writers can't do that because most fanfic writers have god-damn lives.

My ability at pastiche is mostly from examining DOCTOR WHO novels where bombastic, idiosyncratic actors were re-created in print. The overall effect is a pastiche of a scripting style, but again, it's not Torme's. It's done in the style of Dan Harmon's COMMUNITY scripts, all about idiosyncratic characters with distinctive backstories and odd personal tics and baffling obsessions bouncing off each other as inseparable friends who drive each other carzy.

That said, REBORN is not simply running through the classic SLIDERS tropes. There are new ideas and a new approach. The classic SLIDERS usually took the view that North America at the end of the twentieth century was an ideal situation and most divergences from that end result were regarded as dangerous, threatening, disturbing and an aberration to be corrected as best as possible. This wasn't in any way intended by the writers; it was something of an accidental implication due to the characters' stated longings for home and their suspicion and confusion towards the unfamiliar.

REBORN, mostly thanks to Nigel Mitchell, is skeptical and suspicious of the idea that our world is on the right and proper path, and the story eventually becomes about all the terrible ways the world could end. I give full credit to Nigel for SLIDERS REBORN having new and original ideas. Like George Lucas before his divorce, I am not a skillful producer of fiction, but I'm collaborative and will happily commit to other people's ideas in order to produce the story I wish to experience.

So, yes -- REBORN did not open its 2015 story with sliders already together and it has Quinn exploring new applications of sliding technology.

Sure, this is an unlikely prospect for a 2015 revival, but I like to think SLIDERS REBORN is a SLIDERS production that took place on an Earth where the show's reruns were a hit in syndication with the first two seasons and select Season 3 episodes re-aired as a (rerun) event mini-series. Much like the series EERIE INDIANA became a hit in reruns on FOX in 1997, years after its original run in 1991.

Matt Hutaff, correctly, thinks that anyone who would try to revive SLIDERS in REBORN fashion would be competely insane even on an Earth where SLIDERS reruns were a big hit right up to 2015. I'd like to think that on this Earth, Dan Harmon was a big SLIDERS fan, and that when he was approached by Yahoo to revive COMMUNITY, he asked to do four SLIDERS Internet movies as well and Yahoo wrangled the rights from NBCUniversal and gave Harmon twelve million and three months, and would later report this SLIDERS revival as part of their $42 million loss on new media.

Anyway. I took my time getting the band back together because I felt it had to be earned. Please don't criticize this project without at least finishing the first 95-page script. That's a pretty reasonable request.

I think Quinn opposes Injustice where he finds it but he is also the type of person that gets tunnel vision and a little obsessive on 1 particular thing at a time. If he saw Human Trafficking occuring, yes he would oppose it and throw his intellect at the problem but.... As an immediate thing ie a Short term goal. I think Quinn only has room for one long term overarching dominant goal at a time whereas juggling multiple short term goals is very much a thing e can do.

How would you know? ;-)

During the four seasons Quinn was on the show, he was sliding randomly. When during the show did he ever have the chance to demonstrate long-term planning and project management skills? Does the fact that he was never in onscreen situations where he could plan long term mean he was incapable of doing so? Or that he couldn't learn?

That said, a Quinn with no long-term thinking who has been made this way by sliding -- that's a valid take on the character. There are definitely Quinn-doubles like that out there; some other writer might write Quinn in this way and it would be a legitimate interpretation. It's just not mine. The Quinn of REBORN is not a nomadic college student. He's a 42-year-old man who has had 14 years to refine his technology, methodology, body, mind, spirit and soul and make himself superhuman while still remaining socially awkward, troubled, disturbed, withdrawn, isolated, and a messy dresser who forgets to get haircuts.

**

Anyway. Some excerpts from the final SLIDERS REBORN script. Up to this point, this scene best represents what I ultimately want for SLIDERS.

               EXCERPT FROM SLIDERS REBORN: REGENESIS

               For Rob Floyd

               INT. SLIDERS INC. BOARDROOM - NIGHT

               Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo step into the boardroom,
               followed by five Maggie-doubles (Allison, Mags, Bex, Peggy
               and Meg) as well as Diana. Everyone sits. Rembrandt is
               carrying a LARGE, FRAMED PHOTO -- and he puts the photo frame
               in the vacant chair next to him.

               The photo frame holds an image of Mallory (Robert Floyd).

                                   ALLISON
                             (to Rembrandt)
                         Okay. Who's the guy in the photo?
                         And why do you always bring that to
                         meetings?

                                   REMBRANDT
                         He should be sitting at this table.
                         He ain't here anymore, but he sure
                         earned his place.

                                   ALLISON
                         Nobody knows who he is!
                             (looking to Quinn)
                         Mallory! Tell your buddy he's being
                         weird.

                                   QUINN
                         Remmy, you're being weird.

               Rembrandt looks furious.

                                   QUINN (CONT'D)
                         Just hang his photo on the wall.

               Rembrandt's eyes widen as though this simply failed to occur
               to him. He stands, picks up the photo frame and moves to the
               wall --

                                   QUINN (CONT'D)
                         I already drilled in a hook in the
                         center.

               Rembrandt finds the hook and hangs the photograph of Mallory.
               Mallory now overlooks the boardroom table.

                                   REMBRANDT
                         Could we get Colin up here too?

                                   QUINN
                         Could we not? I'm still getting
                         over how he was one of fifteen
                         clones programmed to kill us.

               Rembrandt nods and happily returns to his seat, Laurel comes
               in, pushing a cart of coffee and tea. She sits down while
               Diana stands and moves to the head of the table.

                                   DIANA
                         Alright, this is the forty-third
                         weekly meeting on the subject of
                         addressing the 1995-limitation on
                         the multiverse as well as reality's
                         inability to split and generate new
                         dimensions. Thank you all for
                         coming to brainstorm.

                                   ALLISON
                         Whose turn is it to throw out an
                         idea this week for fixing the
                         multiverse?

                                   PEGGY
                         Uh -- Brown's up this week, right?

                                   DIANA
                             (checking a notepad)
                         Yes!

               The Maggies all groan with dismay. Rembrandt looks hurt.

                                   ALLISON
                         Why are we asking the soul singer
                         for scientific theories?

                                   ARTURO
                         Ms. Beckett, I am most disappointed
                         to witness such intellectual
                         elitism.

                                   MEG
                         Oh, look who's talking.

                                   ARTURO
                         Mr. Brown is an artistic spirit
                         with a creative mind.

                                   MAGS
                         He's only going to come up with
                         useless bullshit.

               Rembrandt looks longingly at the door to the boardroom.
               Arturo looks to Quinn for help, Quinn mouths something
               vaguely.

                                   ARTURO
                         Mr. Brown is also the only slider
                         in this room who didn't die; he has
                         seniority and it's his turn.

                                   LAUREL
                         Stop mentioning that you all died!
                         It's god-damn creepy!

               As Arturo nods agreeably, Rembrandt stands while Diana sits.

                                   REMBRANDT
                         Well, I was kinda taken with the
                         other Q-Ball's idea -- the one he
                         tried last year. You know, with the
                         doomsday clocks.

                                   WADE
                         Well, yeah. Quinn's always been
                         very smart.

               She smiles fondly at Quinn and Quinn can be seen flushing
               with pleasure.

                                   WADE (CONT'D)
                         Aside from ripping off an episode
                         of Doctor Who and nearly killing
                         everybody, the doomsday clock plan
                         did have the benefit of being one
                         that would work.

                                   LAUREL
                         I'm sure Rembrandt isn't suggesting
                         we go with Smarter Quinn's plan to
                         kill everybody -- and yes, I'm
                         calling him that, I went there,
                         it's fine.

               Everyone looks to Quinn to confirm this, he shrugs
               indifferently.

                                   REMBRANDT
                         Well, uh -- I know the big problem
                         is that we want to take out the
                         1995-limitation without taking out
                         the people living under it. I was
                         wondering if we could try doing
                         Smarter Quinn's plan after
                         everyone's died. Like, we could set
                         it on a timer.

                                   ALLISON
                         What?

                                   PEGGY
                         I don't understand anything you
                         just said. Is that word salad? Are
                         you having a stroke?

                                   DIANA
                         I believe what Rembrandt's asking
                         is this: is there the possibility
                         of employing Smarter Quinn's plan,
                         but making preparations so that the
                         collapse and replacement of our
                         reality takes place after the human
                         race has gone extinct?

                                   REMBRANDT
                         Yeah!

                                   QUINN
                         It'd be humane. It's sensible. It's
                         currently not feasible.

               Rembrandt's face falls.

                                   QUINN (CONT'D)
                         I said currently not feasible! The
                         problem is that there might not be
                         enough of a multiverse left to
                         rebuild at the endpoint -- but this
                         is an avenue we need to explore.

                                   ARTURO
                         Well done, Mr. Brown.

               Rembrandt nods, looking relieved. He takes a seat. Diana
               leafs through her notes.

                                   DIANA
                         I believe the Professor wished to
                         raise a concern?

                                   ARTURO
                         Thank you, Dr. Davis.

               The Professor stands.

                                   ARTURO (CONT'D)
                         My friends, I have been privileged
                         to see the convergence of ideas
                         over the past forty-three weeks.
                         However, I would be remiss if not
                         to advise that we begin
                         consideration of what is becoming
                         an uncomfortable truth.

                                   LAUREL
                         If this is going to be a long
                         speech, can I go to the bathroom
                         first?

                                   ARTURO
                         We may need to consider that there
                         is no way to remove the 1995
                         limitation without destroying this
                         present incarnation of reality.

                                   QUINN
                         Professor!

                                   ARTURO
                         We must consider how to confront
                         this situation.

               Quinn stands as well. Facing his teacher.

                                   QUINN
                         We are confronting it. We're going
                         to fix this.

                                   ARTURO
                         Mr. Mallory -- I believe that a
                         multiverse without the 1995
                         limitation is essentially a new
                         multiverse entirely -- one that
                         cannot co-exist with our own. They
                         would be mutually incompatible. One
                         would replace the other.

                                   QUINN
                         There's got to be some way to make
                         new universes form around the ones
                         we have right now --

                                   ARTURO
                         The notion is ridiculous.

                                   QUINN
                         Oh, come on. It happens all the
                         time!

               The Professor looks incredulous.

                                   ARTURO
                         What?! When?

               Quinn looks like he's struggling to think of something. His
               hands flail desperately, then --

                                   QUINN
                         It happens in Star Trek?

               Arturo glares at Quinn.

                                   ARTURO
                         Star. Trek?

                                   LAUREL
                         Oh, yeah! The 2008 movie! There was
                         a rebooted continuity, but the
                         novels and video games still take
                         place in the old timeline.

               Arturo looks to the Maggies, Wade and Rembrandt for help.
               Then he looks to Diana.

                                   DIANA
                         There are some contradictions
                         between novels and the games?
                         Specifically, Wesley Crusher, who --

                                   ARTURO
                         All right! So, in our search for
                         positive examples, we have a single
                         feature film --

                                   REMBRANDT
                         Well, hang on, Professor. The new
                         Terminator did the same thing.

                                   LAUREL
                         Did it? I thought that the Genisys
                         continuity replaced the Terminator
                         II timeline --

                                   DIANA
                         Yes, but the Guardian and the
                         version of Skynet in the film were
                         also from separate timelines,
                         suggesting co-existing timelines in
                         a quantity of at least --

                                   ARTURO
                             (roaring)
                         Will you people shut up?!

               He glares around the room at Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt, Laurel
               and Diana. When his glower hits the Maggies --

                                   BEX
                         Hey! I haven't even spoken yet!

                                   ARTURO
                         This conversation has degenerated
                         into a pointless discussion of
                         cultural trivia that has no bearing
                         whatsoever on our deliberations!

               Wade stands.

                                   WADE
                         What the Professor's saying is that
                         he's really happy with all the
                         great ideas that've come out of
                         this group.

                                   ARTURO
                         If we have assembled merely to
                         debate the merits of the latest
                         effort to exploit overexposed
                         copyrights, kindly be certain to
                         exclude me from any subsequent
                         concursions!

                                   WADE
                         The Professor's also impressed with
                         you, Remmy -- the whole idea to
                         blow up the multiverse after life
                         is done living in it? Really good.

                                   REMBRANDT
                         Hey, thanks, Professor!

                                   ARTURO
                         If none of you here have anything
                         further to contribute, then be so
                         good as to disperse and dispense
                         with any further pretense of
                         meaningful discourse!

                                   WADE
                         And now that we've come up with a
                         neat new angle to think on, we
                         should get some dinner, get some
                         sleep and get back to work
                         refreshed and recharged!

               Arturo turns towards Wade, his face red with fury. Wade
               smiles sweetly at him. Arturo storms out of the boardroom. At
               a distance, the sound of a slamming door can be heard.

                                   LAUREL
                         Dude just hates the new Terminator.

If he saw Human Trafficking occuring, yes he would oppose it and throw his intellect at the problem but.... As an immediate thing ie a Short term goal.

I think Quinn only has room for one long term overarching dominant goal at a time whereas juggling multiple short term goals is very much a thing e can do.

Like RCLF said though Wade would nudge him to do more.

With the SLIDERS 2013 project, you told me that the scene where Malcolm tells Rembrandt the entire world history made no sense; Malcolm doesn't know Rembrandt's from a parallel Earth, he'd see no reason to impart generally known, common information. I rewrote it, moving Malcolm's exposition to the news snippets.

At one point, you told me I shouldn't try to work so closely with other posters who would never match my level of commitment and that I would always be disappointed. I switched to writing all the outlines myself but running them past consultants.

Withe the first draft of the REBORN outline, you said that characters often moved the story along through means that made no sense, such as the action sequences, Laurel being telepathic, etc.. Specific. Clear. Which made me think that I could count on you for reasoned criticism that would actually relate to my writing.

Instead, you read 18 per cent -- 18 per cent -- of SLIDERS REBORN and proceeded to tell me 100 per cent of it should be rewritten. I didn't realize it was such a stressful, overbearing, taxing requirement that people read the material before saying how it should be revised.

If some other poster read 1/5 of my writing and told me I should change the other 4/5, I would have shrugged it off, but I valued your opinion. I sent you outlines and scripts for this as early as 2014 and I seriously considered your advice and I thought we were friends. Apparently, not so much, since you don't feel you need to read the damned scripts before declaring that plots and characters need to be cut.

It's great that you've got so much time to type up your thoughts on SLIDERS REBORN but no time to actually read it first. Your criticism has been largely incomprehensible in that way critiques are when the critic is largely ignorant of the material: vague and inaccurate, irrelevant to the actual material (because you don't know the material) and utterly worthless.

Spare me -- and this thread -- anymore of your less-than-useless opinions on stories you haven't actually read.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I felt what I read was substantial enough (an hour's worth of screen time if this were a movie) to provide the type of reactions one might solicit in audience testing, for instance. I really don't think he would try to solve every world problem on such a large (infinite) amount of earths but I don't think it matters a great deal to the overall story.

I just re-read "Reunion" and I see nothing that indicates Quinn is trying to save infinite numbers of Earths. Within the script, his attempts to improve situations are confined to his home Earth.

If Quinn Mallory being a force for good is something you find out of character -- that is so incomprehensible to me that I can't see you enjoying any of this project even if you get around to finishing it. I don't understand how that could possibly be a problem; I don't see how (or why) I could possibly address that. That is simply a non-starter for me.

"Killer cyborgs are silly," "Laurel brings about global collective consciousness is silly," "Try to find a more plausible way to get from point A to B" -- "You have crafted set pieces strung together by the flimsiest of machinations that make no sense," "Your continuity references are so thick I have no idea what you're referring to and I've seen the show enough for most" -- "I don't understand how the Season 5 Combine affected events in Season 1" -- those are criticisms from you and Matt and Christian that I can understand.

"Quinn Mallory should not be heroic" -- sorry. We have come to a parting of ways on this project.

You're free to like or dislike however much of REBORN you read, but at present, REBORN is 276 pages. You read 50 of them. I don't see how you can claim scenes need to be cut when you have no way of gauging whether or not they paid off at a later point; I don't see how you can declare Laurel Hills needs to be removed from the story when you don't really know what the story is. The fact that there is no telepathy or war games across San Francisco should tell you the scripts bear little resemblance to the outline I first sent you.

This is not the first time you have spoken badly of my writing. In the past, you have called my writing clumsy and poorly conceived and badly executed. Matt has also regularly noted serious errors and glaring discrepancies and logical failures in my writing. I was always happy to see that, because the criticisms were specific to the material and therefore very helpful as opposed to -- as opposed to whatever the hell this is supposed to be.

I don't see what you could possibly have to say about REBORN beyond the general impression that you're not really into it and probably won't finish it, which is the only fair or reasonable reaction I think any reader could have after reading 50 pages out of 276.

Had I known providing the feedback was going to upset you so much, certainly I would not have done it.  I miscalculated thinking you wanted to hear everything based on just reading your posts in the past.  I wrongly guesstimated, and will be more careful in the future.

My criticisms here are certainly not well-developed arguments. They are simply high-level reactions and expressions of my preferences.

Just for the record though, I certainly never called anything you've done in the past sloppy, poorly conceived or badly executed. I'm a fan of your ability and talent... so that wouldn't come from me.

I felt what I read was substantial enough (an hour's worth of screen time if this were a movie) to provide the type of reactions one might solicit in audience testing, for instance. I really don't think he would try to solve every world problem on such a large (infinite) amount of earths but I don't think it matters a great deal to the overall story.

I just re-read "Reunion" and I see nothing that indicates Quinn is trying to save infinite numbers of Earths. Within the script, his attempts to improve situations are confined to his home Earth.

If Quinn Mallory being a force for good is something you find out of character -- that is so incomprehensible to me that I can't see you enjoying any of this project even if you get around to finishing it. I don't understand how that could possibly be a problem; I don't see how (or why) I could possibly address that. That is simply a non-starter for me.

"Killer cyborgs are silly," "Laurel brings about global collective consciousness is silly," "Try to find a more plausible way to get from point A to B" -- "You have crafted set pieces strung together by the flimsiest of machinations that make no sense," "Your continuity references are so thick I have no idea what you're referring to and I've seen the show enough for most" -- "I don't understand how the Season 5 Combine affected events in Season 1" -- those are criticisms from you and Matt and Christian that I can understand.

"Quinn Mallory should not be heroic" -- sorry. We have come to a parting of ways on this project.

You're free to like or dislike however much of REBORN you read, but at present, REBORN is 276 pages. You read 50 of them. I don't see how you can claim scenes need to be cut when you have no way of gauging whether or not they paid off at a later point; I don't see how you can declare Laurel Hills needs to be removed from the story when you don't really know what the story is. The fact that there is no telepathy or war games across San Francisco should tell you the scripts bear little resemblance to the outline I first sent you.

This is not the first time you have spoken badly of my writing. In the past, you have called my writing clumsy and poorly conceived and badly executed. Matt has also regularly noted serious errors and glaring discrepancies and logical failures in my writing. I was always happy to see that, because the criticisms were specific to the material and therefore very helpful as opposed to -- as opposed to whatever the hell this is supposed to be.

I don't see what you could possibly have to say about REBORN beyond the general impression that you're not really into it and probably won't finish it, which is the only fair or reasonable reaction I think any reader could have after reading 50 pages out of 276.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I thought after putting in all that time to producing these pieces, the series deserved to be read and commented on by the dedicated members here.

First, I never expected a PDF screenplay series sequel to a TV show cancelled in ignominy and disgrace 15 years previous to have a huge readership beyond the 15 - 20 people who have read it and sent me messages.

That's great to hear. Had I known that I probably wouldn't have provided my criticism then! I thought you mentioned in an other thread that probably only 4-5 people had read Reborn and felt bad about its lack of response (and I was one of the people slacking who had not yet gotten to it, even though I wanted to!).