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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Annie Fish on Time Goes By (Podcast Episode)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Good addition to the conversation, ireactions.&nbsp; I love the sliders discourse when its like this.&nbsp; It&#039;s also why i loved the podcast -- because it made me look at things different and I know with annie, it&#039;s not always gonna be perspective without interesting criticism.</p><p>regarding sliding tech, i myself have never cared about the details. I think writers only feel they have to construct a nuts and bolds realism around that stuff because there&#039;s&nbsp; a segment of the audience, more of the engineer or science or braniac mind who thinks through that portion of the world, and if they feel that it isn&#039;t always truthful, or contradicts itself, it undermines the entire world and not real.</p><p>Sliders audience to me seems less TNG and more quirky people interested in differences, interested in alternatives, and people who like the team / working-together themes of the show.</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Annie Fish on Time Goes By (Podcast Episode)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I liked this podcast. I thought Annie made some strong criticisms of Quinn&#039;s character but also some unfair ones too. I feel they don&#039;t give Quinn or SLIDERS fans enough credit.</p><p>Annie is right that Quinn is shockingly callous when Daelin is holding her brother in her arms as he bleeds out and Quinn calls to her and says, &quot;Come with us!&quot; He&#039;s telling her to abandon her dying brother. Richard Compton&#039;s direction and Jerry O&#039;Connell&#039;s performance salvage this potentially offensive moment: Daelin is traumatized and Jerry pitches his voice to be one of comfort and relief, offering safety from a violent and horrific situation, and Jerry delivers the line with gentleness rather than coercive force. But Annie is absolutely fair to judge it by the words alone.</p><p>Annie has another correct observation: Quinn is rude and stupid when he says Rembrandt couldn&#039;t possibly understand Quinn&#039;s sense of loss and dismisses Rembrandt&#039;s example of being in love with an older woman. Annie notes: Quinn is effectively saying that Rembrandt, being in his mid-40s, couldn&#039;t possibly know what it&#039;s like to be in his 20s and in love, an absurd chronological and characteristical impossibility. Rembrandt is saying that Rembrandt had to face a divide of an age difference and Quinn is facing the divide of dimensions. </p><p>However, at 20, I also nonsenscially believed that nobody who was a little older had ever been through what I&#039;d been through.</p><p>The podcasters say that Quinn dooms an entire dimension at the end, flat-out ignoring Arturo&#039;s line: &quot;Take us out of the equation, this world might have a chance.&quot; But to be fair: Arturo is speculating without evidence.</p><p>The part I find unfair: Annie repeatedly cheapens Quinn&#039;s interest in Daelin to &quot;he wants to mack&quot; with consistent emphasis and I think that is unfair. Quinn misses home, wants to reconnect with someone who represents a piece of his home. Quinn sought to help Daelin even when learning that she had a fiance and wouldn&#039;t be romantically involved with Quinn; he is reaching out to her because he cares about her and the episode works hard to earn that sincerity. </p><p>I find that in Annie&#039;s writing, Annie has over time shown a contempt and disdain for Quinn. A loathing revulsion. I would even go so far as to call it hatred. And I consider that well-earned due to Quinn&#039;s onscreen portrayal throughout Seasons 3 - 4 with the incompetence of the writers and actor, but I would say that this hatred is often applied to pre-S3 episodes.</p><p>Annie remarked that SLIDERS fans by and large are more concerned with the technological aspects of sliding than the characters. I... don&#039;t know if that&#039;s actually true. </p><p>Certainly, Temporal Flux has written a number of essays on the mechanics of sliding and Reddit has posters asking why the timer works (or doesn&#039;t) work the way it does (or doesn&#039;t). However, the primary topics of discussion tend to be:</p><p>(a) A potential revival with (some or all) of the original actors<br />(b) Interest in the actors<br />(c) Alt-world scenarios</p><p>TF has written far more on alt-worlds than he ever did on sliding technology. I would consider the interest in the actors to be a wholehearted love for the characters. Fans adore John Rhys-Davies&#039; commanding vocal and physical presence and the beautiful comedic canvas that is Cleavant Derricks&#039; face. Fans love the sweetly endearing, accessible personality that Sabrina Lloyd brings to the screen. </p><p>Fans love Jerry for repeatedly trying to bring the show back even if he hasn&#039;t succeeded. Trying counts.</p><p>However, despite this observation being questionable, Annie still speaks to a fundamental truth of SLIDERS&#039; origins. Reading the original pilot script for SLIDERS and then the &quot;Summer of Love&quot;, it is obvious that Tracy Torme does not care in the slightest how sliding actually works on a technological or scientific scale. Sliding is merely a plot device to justify alt-world scenarios of satirical humour and absurdist levels of alienation or danger. </p><p>The &#039;explanation&#039; for the randomness of sliding and the timer being a timer is thin at best and begrudging at worst. In the cut scene where Quinn and the Professor explain to Rembrandt how the timer works now, there is a palpable sense of irritation at this expository obligation (that got cut). </p><p>Annie seems to say that this attitude is rare in fans. I don&#039;t believe that&#039;s true. SLIDERS fans often refer to Season 4 episodes as being uncomfortably reminiscent of STAR TREK in the need to exposit how sliding systems work and creating sliding technology variations like the Slidewave and the Slidecage</p><p>The STAR TREK brand identity is strongly identified with an interest in how fictional technology functions. STAR TREK sells books of blueprints and technical manuals for non-existent spaceships and devices. Season 4 of SLIDERS adopted some aspects of that brand identity, but it&#039;s pretty obvious from watching Season 1 that Tracy Torme would not be that interested in writing SLIDERS: THE TECHNICAL MANUAL and that&#039;s a huge part of why Season 4 felt like an odd variation to a lot of fans. </p><p>I would give SLIDERS fans a bit more credit there.</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Annie Fish on Time Goes By (Podcast Episode)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sliders: &quot;As Time Goes By&quot;</p><br /><p>Annie Fish, author of the Think of a Roulette Wheel blog and an upcoming book about Sliders, joins to talk about this bizarre love story that stretches over three worlds and destroys at least one universe</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-02-21T17:36:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Annie Fish on Time Goes By (Podcast Episode)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sliders-tells-three-stories-about-love-fate-and-time/id1603025750?i=1000550993902">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s … 0550993902</a></p><p>Annie is as good in the podcast format as the essay format...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-02-19T12:32:08Z</updated>
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