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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Hollywood 2023 Strikes]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Grizzlor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>so they&#039;ll be merging Hulu and Disney +?</p></blockquote></div><p>i think&nbsp; this is up in the air still</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-11-17T16:35:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>so they&#039;ll be merging Hulu and Disney +?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Grizzlor]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-11-17T15:29:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>and..... it&#039;s over. SAG-AFTRA Approves Deal to End Historic Strike</p><p><a href="https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/sag-aftra-tentative-deal-historic-strike-1235771894/">https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/sag-a … 235771894/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jim_Hall]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-11-09T02:07:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Disney sealing the deal soon. Buying up Hulu now:</p><p><a href="https://www.barrons.com/news/disney-to-complete-takeover-of-hulu-with-8-6-bn-deal-9791592a">https://www.barrons.com/news/disney-to- … l-9791592a</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jim_Hall]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-11-02T01:40:11Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>One more week left to negotiate and cut a deal. If not then it&#039;s all pushed till January.<br /><a href="https://www.thewrap.com/studios-sag-strike-one-week-deadline/">https://www.thewrap.com/studios-sag-str … -deadline/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jim_Hall]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-10-31T15:10:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>WGA&#039;s demands were FAR less costly to AMPTP, as opposed to the actors.&nbsp; That said, I have read that the SAG demands which AMPTP are not willing to budge on are not even about money.&nbsp; Again, the issue here is that the studios are no longer run by artists or artistic patrons, or even Wall Street types.&nbsp; No, it&#039;s far worse, it&#039;s Tech Bro&#039;s.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Grizzlor]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-10-18T14:38:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Aawww mannnn...was hoping they would be to the end of season 2 of Quantum Leap before this happened. <img src="https://sliders.tv/bboard/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>Sounds like La Brea will see no impact from this (thank goodness...can&#039;t wait to see season 3).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[QuinnSlidr]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-10-15T18:46:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Looks like negotiations for SAG-AFTRA have been suspended as the AMPTP has essentially walked off. They&#039;re basically saying forget it.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwOn74iVLVk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwOn74iVLVk</a></p><p>Here&#039;s a list of shows and movies affected:<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_productions_impacted_by_the_2023_SAG-AFTRA_strike">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p … TRA_strike</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jim_Hall]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-10-15T16:31:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, ireactions. AI is a tool, not a solution. Sanity checks and fact checks are all still required to make sure the content includes information that&#039;s relevant and factually correct.</p><p>It should never be used to replace actual writers.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-09-29T07:28:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Have you used AI much? Personally, I think it would be useless to you in terms of SLIDERS.</p><p>The main issue that the writers&#039; guild had with studios and AI: studios wanted to have executives autogenerate scripts with AI and then hire writers for a few days&#039; work to rewrite these scripts.</p><p>Personally, I think writers should absolutely use AI; it&#039;s just a matter of how they use it.</p><p>The main issue that the writers&#039; guild had with studios and AI: studios wanted to have executives autogenerate scripts with AI and then hire writers for a few days&#039; work to rewrite these scripts. Writers balked at being paid even less to polish machine output.</p><p>I can assure you that the AI-generated scripts from the studio would have been garbage. I&#039;ve used AI to generate screenplays, and they are hackneyed, regurgitated non-emotion, plotting that is either simple-minded or cognitively deficient, or structurally repetitive with each scene being a variant on the previous. Ask an AI to do SLIDERS stories and it outputs Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo fighting aliens. </p><p>However, AI can be a good assistive tool. I might ask the Sydney chatbot how Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo can survive having a bazooka fired at the ceiling of their hotel room. But more relevantly: AI can help SLIDERS writers when they ask AI to generate ideas for alt-worlds that (a) reflect an exaggeration or a reversal of a common societal convention (b) are set in a world that operates at a present day level of technology without sci-fi advances and (c) provides a history for how the world arrived at this situation. AI can produce a few paragraphs for an alt-world concept -- and then a SLIDERS writer do a polish on the alt-world concept and then write a strong, human-produced script with that AI-generated alt history idea. </p><p>That&#039;s the sort of area where AI can truly help a writer speed up their process. AI is also effective at starting points for SLIDERS stories if you feed it what you want it to build its alt-history around: cryptocurrency; transgender identity; a world where blue-collar workers are the elites and white collar workers are peasants; a world where paper is considered a black market product of ecological criminality, etc..</p><p>AI is a writer&#039;s tool, but AI itself is not a writer. That said, I think AI tools would be wasted on Temporal Flux because Temporal Flux&#039;s world-building abilities need no help. Nigel Mitchell also doesn&#039;t need AI.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ireactions]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-09-29T00:13:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Among the various wins, it doesn’t seem that A.I. was defeated.&nbsp; The provision they carved out is that A.I. can be used if the writer chooses they want to use it.&nbsp; A studio cannot force them to use it.</p><p>There isn’t going to be a shortage of writers who would love to “sell out” and use A.I., and the studios can make up all sorts of excuses for favoring those kinds of writers (i.e. “we hire this writer because they work faster”)</p><p>So, the idea may be that writers “won”, but that doesn’t completely match up with reality.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TemporalFlux]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-09-28T17:23:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m still not&nbsp; clear on what the deal is. But they do have a deal and the WGA seems happy.<br /><a href="https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/wga-strike-writers-studios-reached-deal-explained-1235737090/">https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/wga-s … 235737090/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ireactions]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-09-28T01:38:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the writers got what they wanted?&nbsp; Am I reading that right?</p><p>If so, that&#039;s awesome.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Slider_Quinn21]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-09-26T20:12:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Grizzlor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well the actors are still striking.</p></blockquote></div><p>The WGA says they won&#039;t return to work while SAG is striking</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pilight]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-09-26T12:40:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Grizzlor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well the actors are still striking.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hopefully all of this will be resolved soon enough.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2023-09-25T21:10:40Z</updated>
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