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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just wait until Disney jumps into the fray promising to merge Marvel and DC into Amalgam Studios.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-22T17:02:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think the DCU is going to be given a shot, even if Warner Bros is chopped up and sold for parts.&nbsp; I think Superman was enough of a success to give Gunn another shot for the slate that he has coming up.&nbsp; Nothing more than that is guaranteed, but that&#039;s true of any cinematic universe.&nbsp; The MCU was able to keep going because they didn&#039;t really have any misses.&nbsp; They had smaller movies, but the two biggest critical negatives from phases 1-3 were Incredible Hulk (which people don&#039;t even consider to be fully canon) and Thor: The Dark World (which was post-Avengers but still fairly early on).</p><p>So I think whether WB survives or not, Gunn will be given a chance because he&#039;s been successful so far.&nbsp; Not billion dollars but still profitable and successful with fans and critics.&nbsp; Now if Supergirl is a disaster or if Man of Tomorrow is a disaster, all bets are off.&nbsp; But no matter who owns WB, I think Gunn will get an opportunity.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-22T13:19:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>When did Sony reboot X-Men? When did Sony even have the X-Men? </p><p>How many reboots did X-Men have with FOX? One?</p><p>What success did Sony&#039;s reboot of Spider-Man really have if THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN II saw this iteration of the franchise shuttered with all spinoffs and sequels terminated and Sony joining Marvel for a coproduction?</p><p>The only news I see if Gunn leaving DC due to a potential sale of WB is absurd clickbait websites offended by any project where men and women and non-binaries and transgender people are treated as equals.</p><p>If Gunn does a good job, DC Studios might simply be left alone. But regardless, even if WB were sold today, we wouldn&#039;t see any changes until 2028.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-21T23:14:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Again, I think that fans just have no faith in ANYTHING coming out of WB/DC at this point.&nbsp; Is the studio being sold again?&nbsp; If so, will that change the direction AGAIN?&nbsp; Which was what I was getting at.&nbsp; How and why do you the viewer wish to get so invested in the content, if it&#039;s going to be shelved or flushed every few years?&nbsp; It&#039;s sort of the dilemma that Marvel has, which has been reticent to reboot major characters.&nbsp; Odd considering Sony did it with Spider-Man and the X-Men multiple times with success.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-21T15:24:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ireactions wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>At the same time, I&#039;m not in a position to stop my government from doing anything they want, so that part does sort of ring true. I would say the end of Season 2 suffers from needing the Salvation prison to be left open as a plot point for SUPERGIRL, MAN OF TOMORROW, LANTERNS, etc.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think if the answer is &quot;Checkmate is in no position to take down Flag&quot; then that should have been acknowledged.&nbsp; In an episode that was already significantly longer than the normal episode, I think they could have spent two minutes with a scene between Peacemaker, Harcourt, and Adebayo that went over the unlikelihood of a direct assault on ARGUS.&nbsp; Maybe something as simple as.</p><p>PEACEMAKER<br />Okay, what are we doing about this prison?</p><p>HARCOURT<br />Nothing, for now?</p><p>PEACEMAKER<br />Nothing?</p><p>ADEBAYO<br />They could have hundreds of people moved to that prison by now.&nbsp; How can we do nothing?</p><p>HARCOURT<br />A week ago, we probably could&#039;ve caught them by surprise.&nbsp; But Fleury says they&#039;ve increased security a hundred-fold.&nbsp; No one gets in or out unless Flag is present personally.&nbsp; It&#039;s a fortress.</p><p>ADEBAYO<br />We could still...</p><p>HARCOURT<br />We could, but we&#039;d lose people.&nbsp; I think we have a plan, but we&#039;re going to need to be patient.</p><p>PEACEMAKER<br />In the meantime, let&#039;s do as much good as we can.</p><p>I don&#039;t know, something that at least acknowledges that they want to do something but just can&#039;t at this point.&nbsp; Or, like I said before, don&#039;t let them find out about the prison.&nbsp; Maybe Checkmate&#039;s first mission is to figure out what Flag is up to.</p><p>Either way, I think they&#039;re allowed to be excited that they&#039;re back together and happy and have a path, but the ending certainly implies that they don&#039;t care about the prison.&nbsp; And they immediately pay for that if that&#039;s the case.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-20T13:18:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ireactions wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Even with my confusion sorted, I don&#039;t really understand why the team was so celebratory at the end of Season 2. They had strong moral objections to Rick Flag, but nothing they did seemed to actually oppose him.</p><p>At the same time, I&#039;m not in a position to stop my government from doing anything they want, so that part does sort of ring true. I would say the end of Season 2 suffers from needing the Salvation prison to be left open as a plot point for SUPERGIRL, MAN OF TOMORROW, LANTERNS, etc.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, the members of ARGUS who showed clear dissatisfaction with Flag Sr. left to join Checkmate.&nbsp; You got the sense that they would become a foil for ARGUS, and eventually attempt to defeat Flag.&nbsp; Hence the celebrating.&nbsp; The finale&#039;s ending was not well received, because, it was a cliffhanger and now Gunn says he&#039;s not doing another season.</p><p>PS: Was very cool to see a band I&#039;d actually seen (over a decade or so back) Foxy Shazam get the theme song on this season.&nbsp; They were one of the openers for Panic! at the Disco in 2011 in NJ.&nbsp; LOL.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-18T03:05:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Even with my confusion sorted, I don&#039;t really understand why the team was so celebratory at the end of Season 2. They had strong moral objections to Rick Flag, but nothing they did seemed to actually oppose him.</p><p>At the same time, I&#039;m not in a position to stop my government from doing anything they want, so that part does sort of ring true. I would say the end of Season 2 suffers from needing the Salvation prison to be left open as a plot point for SUPERGIRL, MAN OF TOMORROW, LANTERNS, etc.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-15T23:16:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think that&#039;s fine.&nbsp; I think LOST had a great character resolution but obviously not as concrete of a plot resolution, and I still think that&#039;s my favorite show of all time.&nbsp; So I get that.</p><p>And I think the character resolution was really good.&nbsp; I just wish the plot was either better wrapped up or the team was a little less aware of the villain plot.&nbsp; As it stands, they basically ignored Flag&#039;s plan.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-15T19:21:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll be honest, I really ignore the outer plot on that show.&nbsp; For me it&#039;s about the characters and the loopy stuff they do, similar to The Boys.&nbsp; What you all wrote about, frankly, is &quot;news to me!&quot;&nbsp; Over my head.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s a good or bad thing...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-15T19:17:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Grizzlor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I did binge through Peacemaker&#039;s season 2, which of course featured the parallel &quot;Nazi&quot; world with doppelgangers and such.&nbsp; Fantastic work by all involved.&nbsp; Of course, Gunn was noncommittal on the show&#039;s future, though I suspect characters will play a run in the Lanterns show.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think the season was very good from a character perspective, but I thought the plotting was very odd.&nbsp; The way that the finale is set up, it felt like the kind of episode where they go and steal back the multiversal device or prevent the prison from being a thing in some other way.&nbsp; Instead, they...do nothing?&nbsp; This isn&#039;t a situation where the bad guys have a plan, and the good guys don&#039;t know about it yet.</p><p>They know that Rick Flag is creating a metahuman prison, but they spend a bunch of time and energy creating a new spy organization.&nbsp; Now maybe their plan is to create Checkmate and then go after Flag, but how many metahumans could they have imprisoned by then?&nbsp; It seemed like they had a window to go after Flag, and they didn&#039;t really take advantage of it.</p><p>And I get it&#039;s a shared universe and that Gunn is writing basically everything at this point, but it leaves an unsatisfying feeling in the audience when the good guys don&#039;t even try to stop the bad guy.&nbsp; I can understand why the plot wasn&#039;t &quot;save Earth X&quot; because I don&#039;t think our guys are nearly equipped to do that.&nbsp; But our team, with Bordeaux and Harcourt and Judomaster and Fleury all as inside guys, against a handful of ARGUS agents?&nbsp; That&#039;s something our team would be pretty good at.&nbsp; And I would assume they could fairly easily win that if they had made any effort.</p><p>And, yeah, they&#039;d basically be back at square one on the run with Flag chasing after them, but at least they would&#039;ve made an effort.&nbsp; And if they were going to immediately take down Flag, I don&#039;t think they really showed that (unless I missed it) they were even planning on going after the prison.&nbsp; It played like &quot;oh well, Flag is a bad guy.&nbsp; Let&#039;s start an agency to do some good.&quot;</p><p>I do think a lot of the character beats were hit, and I thought the whole thing was well done.&nbsp; And I get that Gunn will work through these plot threads.&nbsp; But to leave the plot here is super weird.</p><p>I would have preferred if the season ended with the good guys knowing nothing of Flag&#039;s plan.&nbsp; Maybe Judomaster/Fleury/Harcourt all abandon ARGUS before Salvation is even found, they create Checkmate, and then Flag reveals his plan to the audience (but none of Peacemaker&#039;s team).&nbsp; Then Peacemaker is sent there.&nbsp; Then, at least, the good guys don&#039;t look like they&#039;re simply ignoring the problem.</p><p>It also leaves the DCU in a weird place.&nbsp; I don&#039;t really know if any of this will get followed up in Lanterns, but if it gets followed up in Man of Tomorrow...where does it leave that?&nbsp; Is Man of Tomorrow going to take place in Salvation?&nbsp; Is Superman going to go up against ARGUS and Lex?&nbsp; Is Superman going to go rescue Peacemaker?&nbsp; I love all the Peacemaker characters, but they play in completely different sandboxes.&nbsp; I&#039;d prefer if they were kept separate.</p><p>But I trust Gunn, and I&#039;m still excited to see what he does with all this.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-14T00:14:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I got really confused by the ending of Season 2 of PEACEMAKER for reasons that are entirely my own fault. I have been super-distracted with a play I&#039;ve been helping with. At the end of Season 2, when the Checkmate team is celebratory and joyful, I couldn&#039;t understand: why were they happy? Nothing had changed, they were still working for Checkmate, the omnipresent, ruthless organization spearheaded by corrupt administrators. </p><p>Then I remembered: the team had in fact been working for ARGUS and started a new organization.</p><p>I realized: they had been working for ARGUS and not Checkmate in SUICIDE SQUAD, THE SUICIDE SQUAD and PEACEMAKER, but I&#039;d conflated ARGUS and Checkmate because in the comics and on SMALLVILLE, Checkmate is Amanda Waller&#039;s organization, has existed since 1988, and ARGUS was only created in 2012. I&#039;d gotten the two organizations mixed up in the context of the DCEU and the James Gunn DCU and by my own distraction.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-13T17:05:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I did binge through Peacemaker&#039;s season 2, which of course featured the parallel &quot;Nazi&quot; world with doppelgangers and such.&nbsp; Fantastic work by all involved.&nbsp; Of course, Gunn was noncommittal on the show&#039;s future, though I suspect characters will play a run in the Lanterns show.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-13T14:51:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Slider_Quinn21 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> I think, if anything, Gunn&#039;s story has too much appreciation for comics - I think it was a bit of a barrier of entry to enjoying the film (there&#039;s so much going on).</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, I guess in some ways, it&#039;s almost like seeing Star Wars for the first time; there&#039;s aliens, laser guns, robots and all kinds of weird shit going on in the background.</p><p><em>Superman</em> had a lot of stuff going on in the movie, but it didn&#039;t turn into the exposition dump of Ayer&#039;s Suicide Squad movie, of spending the first half of the movie trying to introduce all these characters and extraneous characters, etc.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-03T12:39:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I mean, that&#039;s a pretty fair comment, that any superhero movie is a race to run the IP into the ground.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-09-30T01:12:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ireactions wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Who would be your non-terrible choice?</p></blockquote></div><p>What I would want is simply impossible, because DCU exists (like Marvel or Star Wars etc) simply to produce content.&nbsp; I have to say, having these properties gobbled up by giant corporations and assigned studios to themselves has probably run its course.&nbsp; It used to be that a Warner Bros would produce all kinds of movies.&nbsp; A Batman or Superman film would simply be ONE or TWO of all those dozens and dozens of movies the studio made.&nbsp; They now exist as their own units, and the needs to show revenue is simply too much.</p>]]></content>
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