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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … force.html

Is this the "Good Job Browney" of this mess?  A DOG BREEDER was in charge of the taskforce initially?????

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More proof Trump's policy as late as the end of the February was to hide the truth about the dangers from the outbreak.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/health-chi … 1587570514

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWOsSY8XYAIOO3u?format=png&name=small

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They had crushes of the week in every Sliders episode going back to The Pilot.  It may not have gotten as ridiculous as Kari in Season 3, but it was just idiot execs at Fox demanding it.  TV execs back then were plain dummies, which is why the best science fiction was in syndication.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/11/7/1 … ry-clinton

Very interesting article from 2016, which I think we must have missed on this board.  Author speaks to the co-writers of the draft script, Dawn Prestwich & Nicole Yorkin, and their disappoint over the final script.  They decided not to work on Sliders again.

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ireactions wrote:

It's interesting to also compare Informant's uniform defense of Donald Trump with his uniform condemnation of Barack Obama. Obama made many mistakes in office: a weak stimulus plan, overuse of executive power, drone warfare without sanction or review, heavy deportation, a failure to observe the threat posed by Russia, an inability to connect with the poor and working class who brought Trump to office after him, an insistence on supporting Hillary Clinton for president (which he came to regret during her campaign which he would privately describe as "soulless") and perhaps he should have outright confronted birthers with his birth certificate rather than let that stupid conspiracy theory go on for as long as it did.

But while Informant criticizes Obama, he calls the media-shy from 2016 - 2019 Obama divisive for trying to undermine the Trump presidency while somehow excusing the most aggressively antagonistic president in history from criticism. He calls Obama arrogant for having no false modesty about his intelligence when Trump declares himself a genius and a medical doctor to no comment from Informant. He calls Obama a liar when Trump has made, as of the end of March 2020, approximately 18,000 false claims in the press or on social media.

Shouldn't Informant have being going after Trump just as hard as he did Obama? But Informant gives Donald Trump a pass. The only reason I can see is that Trump is white and Obama is black.

Grizzlor wrote:

In terms of Informant, he's simply not someone you can discuss politics with any sort of rationality.  I used to have WARS with him on the old boards regarding the 2000/2004 elections.  Facts didn't seem matter, and he would offer up his religious beliefs as an argument.  Which is fine, but I never understood why he was watching science fiction?  I mean, he would literally bash Supernatural episodes because they described Biblical figures inaccurately, which I always laughed at, considering both pieces of work are fiction, ha ha.  wink

Anyway, of course he's full on Trump, he is and was a giant hypocrite.  Sorry, but you can't be a devout Christian and look the other way at the kind of charlatan Trump is.  There's literally dozens of examples in the "Good Book" warning against the behavior and type of person which Trump is.  He was a nice guy, and I enjoyed his views on almost anything but politics.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I just don't get this either.  He's a liar and an adulterer.  You can like that he fights against abortion, but I don't know how people can say that he's a godly man.  Just admit it.  He's a bad person but he "stands for" what you stand for.  Him being in power makes you feel safer or makes you richer or you like that the president looks like you and not Obama.

People are stubborn.  Believe me, I have many relatives and friends who are fiscal Republicans, and while they personally dislike Trump, they are so stupidly ingrained with hating Democrats they simply must back him.  As if Obama was somehow the destroyer of what I don't know?  They do NOT like immigrants, and Trump wins with them for sure.  They also have the usual tact that any sort of social program is bad, not because they pay taxes.  No, it's really from selfishness, that if those at the bottom are brought up, it will bring them down.  They enjoy being able to scoff at the less fortunate.

ireactions wrote:

On China: I merely mean I'd prefer that language in media differentiate Chinese government from Chinese ethnicity. I know the Biden campaign is not racist, but for Asians in America taking a lot of abuse and stigma, they view that lack of distinction as racism and that's pretty understandable. And takes one to two extra words to avoid that. "The Chinese government" as opposed to "the Chinese" or "China." Surely those extra syllables could be provided.

On Admissions: As much as I dislike neo-Nazis and white supremacists and misogynists, at least they have the courage (or depravity) to declare who and what they are -- as opposed to trying to shield their stances by calling themselves alt-right men's rights activists and then falling silent when their positions become obvious in their irrationality as they know voicing them would put them outside the realm of reasoned discussion.

And I admit all. Joe Biden is a crashingly mediocre, average person who "stands for" what I "stand for" (at least when a camera is rolling) and him being in power would make me feel safer and if the US stabilized, I would certainly become richer and I like it that a President Biden would remind me of my grandfather who was a man with attitudes from a specific era in the past who took care of me but had many shortcomings and social difficulties while still being a (generally) responsible, hardworking, generous soul.

I dunno if I'd want my grandfather to be leader of the free world, but if I had to choose between him or someone who's already allowed 40,000 Americans to die and still won't get to work on getting personal protective equipment and medical supplies to the states he took an oath to serve, I'd have to go with Grandfather and do what I could to help him not completely screw up at his job. I mean, at least Grandpop is working on getting his transition team together while having the humility to concede that the race isn't won yet and he's just prepping for if he does win it.

Look, we as a nation will never be able to deal with China without international buy in.  Trump's go it alone approach has been awful.  In terms of the alt-right, even the neo-Nazi's are full of crap.  They're all cry baby snowflakes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ … 581710002/

Well Biden DID author an op ed on January 27, 2020 in the USA Today which literally said, "The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president."  He mostly blamed his poor judgment and rejection of science, before listing several approaches that worked during the Obama administration but Trump has abandoned.  Biden has repeatedly mentioned the DPA (Defense Production Act), and while Trump has claimed to have invoked it, in reality he has not.  The DPA is designed to have FEMA pay for the construction and/or usage of facilities and equipment.  FEMA then solicits private industry to run the plants, since this is their expertise, and ramp up production to war-time levels.  When the demand is gone, the industry packs up and FEMA closes or sells the plant.  You cannot expect private industry to spend $150 million on a plant that they will have no use for in 2 years time.  Only the US Government can do this, and that is why we have no tests, or PPE, and are still relying on shipments from China.  Trump is a failed businessman, and now a horribly failed government leader.

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First of all, the Chinese government deserve a LOT of blame.  They are secretive and deceitful and they have preyed upon weak 3rd world nations to advance their agenda.  They have earned the distrust.  Trump is a joke on this subject, because his tariff war has done nothing to address this.  His running out of the Trans Pacific Partnership (which many liberals like Bernie agreed with doing) greatly weakened our position.  The TPP was designed to give other nations in Asia a leg up on China, and keep them in check, but Trump is a moron.

Secondly, once again, it's unfortunate that people will blame all of China, but there is a significant part of the culture which is archaic and a threat to the natural world, and has been for decades.  The wet markets are disgusting and frankly, must be banned.  The government won't do it.  Chinese "traditional medicine," about as valid in my book as voodoo, has guaranteed the extinction of the elephant and rhino and many other species.  Shark fin soup is not far before.  If China wishes to join the world community in the 21st century, they need to step up.  Fat chance.   That being said, factory farming here in the USA is about as reprehensible just not as dangerous virus wise.  I know not saying much.

In terms of Informant, he's simply not someone you can discuss politics with any sort of rationality.  I used to have WARS with him on the old boards regarding the 2000/2004 elections.  Facts didn't seem matter, and he would offer up his religious beliefs as an argument.  Which is fine, but I never understood why he was watching science fiction?  I mean, he would literally bash Supernatural episodes because they described Biblical figures inaccurately, which I always laughed at, considering both pieces of work are fiction, ha ha.  wink

Anyway, of course he's full on Trump, he is and was a giant hypocrite.  Sorry, but you can't be a devout Christian and look the other way at the kind of charlatan Trump is.  There's literally dozens of examples in the "Good Book" warning against the behavior and type of person which Trump is.  He was a nice guy, and I enjoyed his views on almost anything but politics.

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Hey SQ21, I have been to Texas, and though you won't get me there in the summer, I enjoyed the heck out of it!  Then again, I've enjoyed most places I've been in the USA.  Believe it or not, Las Vegas remains a dump of shit IMO, with Cincinnati not far behind, ha ha ha!

ireactions, we have to tamper any sort of progressive "agenda" for the next term, even if Biden wins.  We will be picking up the pieces from this virus well into 2022. 

In terms of UK politics, PM Boris Johnson is now being slammed similar to Trump, for mismanaging the early weeks of this outbreak.  In his case, he was missing meetings to deal with his pregnant GF and irate wife, as well as dismissing warnings privately from UK health experts.  More evidence that electing a small time big mouth lacking valid executive experience has consequences.

https://www.axios.com/boris-johnson-ski … 1e7db.html

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Well the reality is that most of the complainers, and there are not that many of them, will get their wish before long.  Florida is already opening stuff up, then Texas.  More will follow, although Japan is dealing with a huge Tokyo flareup following relaxation of rules there.  Mask-wise even in NYC they're only mandating in certain places.  Like a restaurant can deny you service if you're barefoot or shirtless.  Anyway, none of these "protesters" are really all that interested in restoring their livelihoods as much as they feel empowered by the dufus who rallied them there.

Meanwhile, Matt Drudge made news by calling out Trump's blatant lie, that their growing criticism of Trump's aversion to the truth has cost them visitors over the past year. Instead, Drudge stated they've never had more. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/18/media/ma … index.html

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Meanwhile, hundreds took to the street, devoid of protection, on orders from Bozo the Clown in Chief...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … virus.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/18/00/27336460-8228769-The_president_tweeted_his_support_for_the_protesters_just_a_day_-a-19_1587166116384.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/18/00/27336458-8228769-Some_of_the_protesters_wore_masks_while_others_did_not_and_very_-a-17_1587166116277.jpg

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

That's what's interesting - does the virus hurt or help Republicans?  The assumption has always been that any voter suppression helps Republicans (because Republicans vote and there are more Democrats in general).  But as I've said before, I don't know if it necessarily helps in this case:

You hit about 20 nails on the head at once!  The virus is now spreading quite badly in rural America, which is older, and has limited healthcase access and bad hospitals.  Limiting mail in voting will likely hurt Trump's chances, oh well.

ireactions wrote:

Yesterday, Trump shrieked that it was up to him to decide if state lockdown orders were lifted, not state governors. "When somebody’s president of the United States, the authority is total," he snapped. CNN's Kaitlan Collins replied with an astonished, "That is not true -- who TOLD you that?" Trump couldn't answer.

It's intriguing because The Atlantic had an article recently about how Joe Biden, as Transmodiar said, stands for nothing, embodies nothing and is an empty vacuum of vague centricism and triangulation. Writer Nathan Schneider said this was ideal: by design, the term "president" is distinctly toothless and empty. A president is not a ruler. A president presides over a coalition of broad interests and sets the tone for his administration and the different levels of government to pursue their goals and concerns. A president's authority is within his specific level of government.

First, Trump already CAVED to the Northeast Governors and was forced to admit they call the shots.  Second, Biden's refusal to take any sort of position that would weigh him down is exactly what's propelled him to this point.  That said, he's come right out in support of several liberal policies from Warren and Sanders, which in the face of a 2nd Great Depression, will be quite advantageous.

Lastly, Trump is running out of organizations to blame.  Now it's the WHO, who he has halted money to, despite the prospect of 2nd and 3rd virus waves being more likely without worldwide action.  This is what he said about that group in late February....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta … 7740174339

The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!

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ireactions wrote:

Democrats win in Wisconsin despite -- or because? -- of voter suppression.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 … court.html

Did Republican voter suppression tactics inadvertently suppress more Republicans than Democrats?

Sure sounds like it!!! ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

PS: the victory means the state Supreme Court will not be able to throw 240,000 voters off the rolls prior to November, hampering the GOP voter suppression efforts in WI.  WHAaaaaahhhh whaaaaahhhhh

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In other news, Andrew Cuomo has formed an I-95 corridor Governor group (PA, NJ, NY, CT, RI) to determine economic/social distance efforts in what seems like opposition to Trump's, which features his economic team, the Jared/Ivanka, and NO public health officials.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVgbqTxXsAA4eIn?format=jpg&name=small

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12u9CLeqsXY

Joe and Bernie had a live stream today, announced 6 working task force groups that their people will work on economy, education, criminal justice, immigration, climate change, and the economy (Biden said it twice, LOL).  Basically agreed on most things.  Bernie went full-on flame over Trump.

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TemporalFlux wrote:

The management of that factory waited until 240 people were sick before they shut it down?   Around 3,700 people work at that plant; so that’s around 6% of the work force.  To give perspective under that thought, that would be like waiting until we knew 20 million + people in the US were infected before we shut it down.  I said “knew” - a certainty like that plant was looking at.  I’m not talking about the ones not known.

You're not talking about an industry that has given a crap about food safety much in the past.  Their treatment of the livestock is bad enough, cannot expect much better for the employees, many of which are immigrants.  Anytime within a corporate hierarchy, similar to what went on in China, people in the middle grow fearful of repercussions so they don't report these things.  I'm in the middle of the storm, and some supermarket chains like Shop-Rite are publicly reporting when a store's employee is sick, and there's a cleaning.  Others like Stop N Shop say nothing.  Some have built up plexiglass barricades for cashiers and provided masks and gloves, others have done nothing.  It's the wild west out there, but my point was more that because our culture has moved to centralized, megafactories for everything from food to N95 masks, we are at grave risk for massive shortages when those centralized factories go down.

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Funny you mentioned Packwood, because he's been a highly successful lobbyist for 30 years since then!  Some punishment.

Anyways, on the election front, we still remain a joke in terms of testing, with Trump and other GOP'ers wishing to open, open, open.  This is highly troubling, as the nation's food supply remains in jeopardy.  Food processors, distributors, and supermarkets have seemingly been non-stop shutting down for days or weeks due to the virus spread.  Warehouses for all goods have been affected, but you don't hear much because it's corporations trying to keep it hush, hush. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/12/business … index.html

I think this election (should it happen) goes beyond politics, and who you may have desired to be a candidate.  As I've said multiple times, the public have the rest of the spring and then the summer, to make a final determination on granting four more years to the worst President in modern history.  "The first rule of hole digging is when you find yourself in one, stop digging."

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Well his vote like mine won't mean squat, as we live in blue states, but equating 4 years of Joe Biden, which at worst would be "Obama Lite" and another 4 years of Trump, is just not valid.  Not just from a conservative/progressive point of view, but primarily one guy has spent 3.5 lying to the public about well, everything, and one would not.  Biden's position on climate change is instantly a course correction from Orange.

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ireactions wrote:

Slate.com on why Biden's blandness is so appealing and why Trump running rings around Biden might just make Biden look like a good choice for the Oval Office:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 … a=taps_top

The greatest example of Biden’s indestructability—the biggest attack that didn’t take—was Trump’s own effort to extort Ukraine to “open” an investigation into Biden. It’s hard to appreciate in hindsight how colossally that gambit failed, but fail it did. Trump got himself impeached trying to smear Biden! And it cost Biden virtually nothing politically.

“Look, it’s simple,” he told the New York Times before the Iowa caucuses, laughing. “They’re smearing me to try to stop me, and they know if I’m the nominee, I’m going to beat Donald Trump like a drum.”

In political terms, Biden is an inert gas. His main superpower—and I think it really might be one in this landscape—is that he doesn’t come across as reactive.

Despite his occasional outbursts of temper (which no doubt help him scan as “authentic”), the former vice-president is intriguingly immune to the personal grudges around which Trump builds his entire politics. Sure, there’s a more complicated version of him, but Biden telegraphs as the definition of a nice, normal guy. That’s why Barack Obama picked him to be his running mate, after all.

Despite Trump’s efforts to extort a U.S. ally to manufacture a smear against him, Biden offered to call Trump on the phone to help him deal with the pandemic. The (meaningless) phone call happened, and Biden—whose idea it was—set the terms for the tone and won. Biden calling Trump “very gracious” is meaningless (this is what a nice guy persona does for you), but Trump describing his call with Biden as a “wonderful, warm conversation” notched Biden an immense moral victory.

He just doesn’t seem to take things personally, and while that was a perfectly ordinary quality among politicians at one point, it might be operating as a real political asset in a landscape where the president punishes people who criticize him by denying them lifesaving equipment.

Biden doesn’t just rise above. He floats so high you can barely see him. There’s no reading a country, and one hesitates to invoke the silent majority, but judging by Biden’s numbers, an ability to take punches without striking back is a quality many Americans seem to miss. And because he’s known for gaffes—yet another inoculation!—he doesn’t get punished for saying things other politicians might take real heat for.

His challenge was to run against the biggest, loudest media hog in the history of American politics, and he has met that challenge by barely appearing at all—and by making his appeals so mild you don’t even remember what they were.

A Biden tweet asking for donations is almost comically opposed to Trump’s screaming appeals to destroy the enemy. “Folks, I know these are tough times, but this crisis has made it clearer than ever how much elections matter—and what a difference it makes who is in the White House. If you can, please chip in to fuel our campaign. I would really appreciate it.” I can’t believe this is the strategy in a political landscape based on gun-to-your-head rhetoric. But there it is: The tone isn’t DONATE NOW TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC; it’s “if you can, please chip in.”

This is why people like Biden. Transmodiar is right to say that Trump is very heavily armed, but Biden is fundamentally disarming.

My guess is that Biden's campaign will simply give The Donald more than "enough rope to string himself up with."  Look, Trump cannot wait to take a victory lap.  He truly does not care who dies in the interim, not one bit.  He wants his victory lap, which will of course consist of flying around the country to rallies, and the GOP convention in Charlotte, where he will do his shtick.  The comparisons (mainly in ads) will be clear.  Trump is a crook, he is a liar, he's wreckless, and he's a poor leader.  This pandemic has illustrated the lack of leadership.  Every other day it's something else.  Arguing with reporters, the Navy Captain being relieved, insulting Governors, crowing about unproven miracle drugs, and dismissing the virus for 6 weeks.  And that's not even counting Charlottesville, Michael Cohen, Wikileaks, celebrity pardons, firing Comey, Ukraine, Giuliani, Hurricane Maria, callousness following mass shootings, betraying NATO, secret Russian meetings, and North Korea coddling.  Not to mention his attempt to start a war with Iran, that was only interrupted by the coronavirus.  There's more ammunition than you get in an session on Call of Duty.  His administration has gutted the federal government, making a response to this pandemic 50 times more difficult.  The departments are littered with acting this or that, many seasoned officials have quit or been fired.  He literally shot 300 holes in the boat, and now we're all sinking. 

The one advantage Biden has over the rest of the Dem field (including Bernie) was that he's so well known to voters he almost doesn't need to say anything.  This is what I've been saying for months.  Team Trump were most fearful of Biden's familiarity, particularly with blue collar workers, and even moreso, the Obama factor.  Barack and Michelle remain enormously popular, and people liked what they did for the country, with Joe along for the ride.  Trump, as we know, despises the first African-American family probably more than any other politicians alive. 

https://twitter.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/12 … 6075365387

Here's a great vid/GIF I saw, in which it summed up how many times Trump tweeted about his political enemies, FOX News, and himself, rather than doctors, nurses, PPE, ventilators, etc through March 13 (i.e. the period of time he should have been urging the nation to be prepared).  The man has zero empathy.  Contrast him to the magnanimous speech by Queen Elizabeth II, it's almost comical how awful he is at leading.

In many ways, I picture this being Gargamel vs. Papa Smurf.  Biden will have the best speech writers around feeding him while Trump will continue to babble from the hip.  Biden needs to massively fix his online presence and youth outreach.  He will swing to the left on most of the Bernie platform, save Medicare for All which is simply too big.  Green New Deal, free college, debt forgiving, etc, etc, he's already in on from back in the Obama administration.  His team should be hiring Bernie's team members quickly.

I am not concerned about Team Trump spewing lies and other nonsense against Biden, who's career is an open and largely moldy book at this point.  My primary concern remains the execution of the election in November.  The Republican refusal to expand Vote by Mail is my big one.  Which is hilarious considering most of their constituency is old and WANTS to vote by mail and not go to crowded polling places!

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You can't even get close to passing 1/1,000th of Bernie's gift list without control of Congress.  The GOP is against every single thing Bernie stands for, and with him on the top of the ticket, the Democrats lose Congress.  That is what freaked the party rank and file out the most.  Republicans spent a decade plus winning state elections, that gave them favorable gerrymandered districts, and locked in the House majority.  You have to win before you can try to push an agenda.

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Trump immediately went back to the well of Dems screwed Bernie, Elizabeth Warren screwed Bernie, blah blah blah, join the Republican Party.  Good Lord Twitter was as toxic as Chernobyl today after this news.  Frankly the behavior of these lunatics only serve to embarrass Sen. Sanders and just about everything he's ever stood for. 

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As I have written multiple times, the fact that Bernie went from 2/5th's support in the party to 1/3rd in four years was quite telling.  Honestly, like Trump, his percentage in 2016 may well have been a result of the opponent, Hillary Clinton.  This never Trumper columnist Tim Miller wrote a fairly sarcastic and in some ways scathing and disrespectful analysis of the loss for Bernie.

https://thebulwark.com/bernie-sanders-d … ts-own-bs/

While I don't particularly like his tone, he IS a Republican, so he's no Bernie fan.  He did mirror my assessment here.  Social Media on the left was staunchly backing Bernie, overwhelmingly over any other candidate.  His campaign stops generated larger crowds, with more volunteers and more small donations online.  All of that was a great accomplishment by his campaign.  However, unlike Trump in 2016, they failed to parlay that into votes. 

Why?  Well Trump did two very critical things.  First, he stomped his way into the race by spewing nationalism, which endeared him to those on the right who were sick of the establishment.  As time went on, he brilliantly co-opted economic populism, drawing in disaffected voters who often watched/listened to right wing media, but rarely participated.  It's kinda difficult to go vote for candidates when that media demonizes pretty much all of them, in both parties.  That coalition was 40-45% early on in the primary, with Trump eventually pushing over 50% as other GOP voters saw him gain steam.  Obviously now he's a deity with them.

Enter Bernie, who never got about 30-35%.  Well, that's about all you have on the uber progressive left.  Perhaps give him some of Warren's support, which was not all ultra liberal, and he gets above 40% in the 2-way but little more.  His campaign targeted youth voters, as well as those of color, and that was about it.  Crowd sizes and social media chatter do not equal votes.  They counted on vastly increasing youth turnout, a historic folly.  Turn out among that demographic was DOWN in 2020 primaries over 2016! 

What really did him in?  Well, he refused to give an inch.  It was either 100% BERN, or nothing.  That is a loser in national politics, and always will be.  You MUST come back to the center, it's the only way.  It cost Warren, and she was not as far left as Bernie.  When estimates began coming out for his Medicare for All at literally nonsensical figures, it was dead in the water.  Warren couldn't even give numbers for her plan.  The other candidates attacked, and voters said, huh, wait a second? 

This might not mean much to some, but Bernie is NOT a Democrat, Joe Biden IS.  Bernie remains an Independent as a Senator, not a Democrat.  He hasn't been seen at the forefront of Democrat-backed and signed legislation the way Biden has been.  Or how Elizabeth Warren burst onto the scene during the financial mess of a decade ago.  She served in Obama's cabinet. 

I really take offense at the Bernie Bro bashing of the DNC, as if the donor class of elites or some shit handed this primary to Biden.  Biden stepped in last summer, and was immediately the polling leader.  He slipped during the winter, no question, but while the media legit ignored him, he raised little money, and was expected to disappear.  He did not, and why?  None of the other moderates succeeded in closing the deal themselves, but it all came back to Trump.  There is a clear (and LARGE) majority of Democratic voters, NOT donors or elites, but voters, who went to Biden.  They're not the ones on Twitter railing endlessly about Trump, they are in fact, the ones who show up and vote.  That's what gets it done at the end of the day.  Biden ran one of the most simplistic if minimalist campaigns I've ever seen.  He made it clear, I will beat Trump, and I will stop the damage he has done to the government, its institutions, and America's standing in the world.  I will staff our federal agencies with good people like Obama did, unlike Trump's skeleton crew of acting whatevers.  Bernie Sanders never shifted to gain the preference of what are 2/3 nearly of the Democratic electorate, mostly those over the age of 30-35, and particularly those above 60.  They weren't interested in megolithic government programs.  They want the Trump nightmare to end.  They are shell-shocked by it.  They just want it to end.  They view Biden as decent, caring, and trustworthy, the antithesis of the Donald.

Sorry, I do not.  I don't recall those being on the DVD's.

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Bernie Sanders has ended his campaign today. 

As for Trump, he's in disapproval on his handling of all this.  It also came out that he has a financial stake in the drug company producing hydroxychloroquine, to everyone's shock, ha ha.

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What happened in Wisconsin today was a prelude to November.  Tons of even blue states cannot handle an all-mail in ballot election in November.  Republicans have stacked the courts.  They will prevent changes to election laws to combat this virus and allow people to vote safely.  You can't even protest because they'll fine you for not social distancing.

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It's the modern GOP in full view.  They don't want people voting.  Democracy is dead.

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I think the fear for quite some time was that the public would hoard and panic buy masks worse than they would otherwise, taking them from the front line healthcare, first responder, grocery, warehouse, restaurant, and cleaning workers who need them far more.  You have Amazon and supermarket workers walking out still due to lack of protection.  The last thing we need is for every dope who wants masks to go shopping to flood the market for them. 

The real question, in say a month or so, is will they tell everyone to continue wearing masks through the rest of the year to prevent future waves of the virus until the vaccines come?

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Wisconsin primary called off by Governor, Republicans are suing.

Meanwhile, we have this whackjob Peter Navarro looking to punish China while we're still relying on them for PPE.  Writing op-eds under a pen name, and announcing that he had a shouting match with a medical doctor Fauci, arguing the still not clinically proven malaria drug should be given to everyone!!!!! 

British PM is in ICU.

WE ARE DOOMED!

and yet, The Queen delivered an absolutely gracious, uplifting, and poignant video address. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2klmuggOElE

I'm not one of her subjects, but I was greatly moved nonetheless.  It hearkened back to the famous King's Speech delivered by her father during WWII.  Such a total travesty that America has no one capable of such compassion and resolved at our highest level of government.

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TF, I've probably gone to the Boston Globe too many times, so it stopped me from reading.  Anyway, wow, that's an amazing designated survivor scenario no doubt!  Idk if anybody saw an old TV (HBO) movie called, By Dawn's Early Light?  Starred James Earl Jones, Rebecca De Mornay, Martin Landau, and Darren McGavin, was really good.

As for Biden and his "stamina," he might not need any.  The Democratic Convention is now in August, if that happens.  He might be stuck in his house either way all summer.  I certainly haven't claimed Trump won't win, quite the opposite.  They could bring back Obama (if possible), and there's a multitude of factors in favor of Trump.  Voter suppression, Russian interference, and a massive fundraising war chest his campaign is sitting on. 

While I think Biden will be fine in debates against a guy who does nothing but lie, I would agree that he's in trouble on social media and whatnot.  But then again, any Democrat was going to be.  Trump's campaign and the Russian intelligence hackers are well prepped for this election.  Trump's handling of the crisis has not been polling very well.  Messaging from the White House is schizophrenic at best, with constant in fighting.  He's offered zero empathy for the victims, nurses, doctors, and unemployed.  A bunch of checks and business loans (if you can figure out how to get them) won't counter the disgust or trepidation people feel for his capacity to lead in a crisis.

PS: Here's the reality, Trump campaign does not want you to vote.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/0 … rus-162152

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Boston Globe is pay-walled TF.  The cities have been hit hardest by the pandemic, and those will have the harder time establishing in person voting.  It's really up to the states and counties.  Biden actually mentioned drive-in voting, which probably makes the most sense in suburbs, again in cities, that's pointless.  Plus you have GOP states that routinely purge the voting roles, meaning more and more people are forced to re-register.

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Well boys, my concern is do we HAVE a full election in November?  Dems are screaming for the government to start doing something about mail in voting nationwide.  If states have huge shortages in polling places, workers, etc., you depress the vote and Trump wins.

John Rhys-Davies with a very Arturo-esque message of hope and perseverance....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=y … UjSHuOw6k0

Apparently he makes semi-regular YouTube videos:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh9bzq … uO2txRDhTA

He started a new website as well.  Obviously I'm not sure how the Covid-19 situation will interrupt what they were planning to do...

https://www.therealjohnrhysdavies.com/

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

We shouldn't have to vote out of fear.  We should vote for someone that inspires us.  The last couple elections, it's been slim pickins.

You shouldn't need inspiration.  Confidence the candidate can perform the duties of the office.  Trust the candidate will actually do what he or she says.  People got spoiled with Obama's hope and change.  I have to be honest, I was leery of him early on.  He won me over not when he espoused liberal edicts or propaganda, but when he promoted his sensibility and pragmatism.  His one out was that he didn't support the Iraq War, that gained a lot of support, but for me he kept on hitting the point that he was here to govern, to get things done.  If need be, he would compromise.  He won over a lot of people that way, and once the stock market fell apart, he won over the rest of the doubters because he was seen as someone with the capacity to lead.  Hillary tried the inspiration route twice, and failed, twice. 

This time around, when the incumbent is a daily nuclear explosion of stupidity, ego, deceit, and cowardice, sorry but ANYBODY with a pulse is an improvement on day one.  Again, I've always like Joe Biden.  Is he the best for the job out there compared to other Dem candidates?  Maybe not, but he'll be the nominee.  Whatever faults he's got, the alternative is a childish loon who refused to head warnings of a pandemic, because they didn't agree with his bloated "gut."  There comes a time when civic responsibility to the Constitution first, and the protection of the nation second, are at grave risk.  Trump has taken a crap over the former, and these days, the latter is in serious jeopardy on his watch as well.  That should be enough inspiration alone for an exit plan in November.

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Here's a good one, Trump literally admits if voting were easier, Republicans would never win.  ROFL!

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status … 9455464449

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Look I got into it on another forum on this accusation with Biden.  The left screwed this up badly with Dr. Christine Ford and Brett Kavanaugh.  Ford was credible, but she had zero corroboration, in fact her potential witnesses went the other way.  They kept pushing and pushing and pushing this.  Did young drunk Brett do it?  Yeah probably, but that was 35 years ago or whatever, and the backlash cost Democrats the Senate in 2018.  In other words, going down that rabbit hole bit them badly. 

It was 1993, and she supposedly told her immediate family.  I think the brother backs her story, but unless someone from the campaign does, where is this going?  Biden denied it.  Do I think Biden did this?  Ehhh, I'd say 50/50 but beyond that, unless you're going to file charges on him, which after this many years I don't think you can, again, what is the point? 

The Russia stuff I think was overblown and irrelevant.  Ms. Reade explained that she's basically socialist and commended Putin, but then quickly realized he was no socialist just a thug so she denounced him, unlike our President.  There was so a pro-Biden twitter account trying to say Ms. Reade was some nutcase on an old Dr. Phil episode but that was debunked. 

The Bernie-sphere, who as we know, claim everything from Mother Nature to Klingons to God Himself (despite their mass atheism) are conspiring at all times to prevent Sen. Sanders from being President.  This Biden accusation is going viral in that sphere, where they have accused Times Up of hiding this.  Well, what they told Ms. Reade was that this involved a candidate, and since this was not apparently a criminal matter, their involvement would be perceived as electioneering.  So they declined to help her.  That was a year ago.  Well she gave up when it seemed Biden wasn't going to win, but then was right back on it when he was resurrected. 

I am left again with a question of not so much Ms. Reade's motive, but her end game?  What does she want?  Biden to admit it?  Not happening.  She can get on 10 news programs tomorrow, he's not admitting it.  There is only one end game, she wishes to derail his candidacy.  Look that's her choice, it's a free country, but is handing the election to Trump worth some personal vindication?

ireactions wrote:

Are we at the point where we say that voting for the man with one accusation of assault is a better option than voting for the man with 21 accusers for the same?

I think Biden should submit to an independent investigation of the assault accusation.

PS: To answer you directly outside my rant there.... It's pointless to even compare accusations with Trump's because the American voter has already clearly decided they do not care about these accusations.  Shameful as that is.  When you're trying to unseat a walking, talking King of immorality, I guess you can't be picky can you?  Biden as I said, will never agree to an investigation, nor can there be.  He's not a sworn elected official now.  There's no government review that can happen.  1993 was outside any statue of limitations.

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Well it's going to be Creepy Joe and a complete sociopath who is now RAVING about the ratings his press conferences are getting!  They're besting The Bachelor!!!!!!

https://i.ibb.co/yf6MnFb/90987158-2963858333635086-3811839601832624128-n.jpg

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I doubt a live action movie is what Don Bluth had in mind.

Another rewatch coming this Sunday night once more.....FEVER!!!  I believe Jerry O'Connell will live tweet this one too.

https://twitter.com/slidersfanblog/stat … 1410991104

GONNA GET REAL on the most anticipated #SlidersRewatch ever!

When you join Sunday 3/29/29 at 8:00pm EST, watch the "Fever" episode on your device & platform and tweet your thoughts using hashtag #SlidersRewatch. TELL YOUR FRIENDS! #Fever #Sliders #coronavirus #COVID19

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETwi3TXXQAAAV7r?format=jpg&name=small

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Bill's sidebar with the Attorney General in the plane was incredibly damaging, made Hillary look very crooked.

As for 2020, honestly the Dems best candidate was Elizabeth Warren.  Her take down of Michael Bloomberg was the proof right there.  She's a debate assassin.

As for the virus, while everyone is hunkering down for some time in isolation, Trump is now dismissing medical experts because, shocking shocking, his hotels are all shut down!  Gotta go back to work!

https://comettv.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2020/03/Sliders-Slider-2020-teaser-1.jpg

https://twitter.com/WatchComet/status/1 … 1692214272

Sliders will be part of the newly added shows to Comet TV's rotation, including Quantum Leap of course!  Says 4PM East, not sure if it's one episode per day (I guess) or not.  Comet is one of those networks that come over the air on a variety of local stations in their sub channels.  On Verizon FIOS, it is channel 459 and it's actually in HD, while they have a sister station Charge! on channel 458 that has shows like La Femme Nikita. 

Search for your affiliate or....

COMET is also available on:
Stream Online at CometTV.com/watch-live/
ROKU
APPLE TV
Amazon Fire TV (via the STIRR app)
Android Devices (via the STIRR app)
YouTube TV (for subscribers)
PlayStation Vue (for subscribers)
Dish channel 289
Sling TV

Or just watch it live here....

https://www.comettv.com/watch-live/

So Jerry ended the Rewatch saying....

MAAAN,  this was fun.  I was so GREEN.  I was 20 AND lived at home.  This show was and IS a big part of my life.  Let's find Tracey Torme and get another crack at it.  I swear I am a better actor these days.  #SlidersRewatch

Is there no way to get a hold of this guy?

https://twitter.com/MrJerryOC/status/12 … 9945205762

ReWatch has begun

His novel was fine, the Episode guide is another story.  Apparently Brad died last year from cancer.

Have we lost the bboard archive?  Links no longer work.

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There was plenty of introspective.  Why do you think there's a collective gasp, grown, sigh for 2+ years every time the media suggested Hillary would run again?  She was an awful candidate.  The Benghazi hoopla was absurd, same as the emails, same as Comey, Russia, etc.  Like Gore in Florida in 2000, I believe he got robbed, but the failure was being in that position to begin with.  Could have had 6,000 other Dems run vs. Trump and beat him handily.  Clinton and her husband blew it. 

That being said, the unbelievable psychotic vitriol coming from the Bernie Bros is just unbelievable.  They have done nothing but attack Joe Biden for weeks, little to nothing on Trump.  They're putrid.

So if you're on Facebook the group is called "Slideheads" and I recommend a join.  I just did, seems like a lot of diehard fans.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1510571509203098/

Wow, there's a Sliders Facebook group? 

There's a pilot rewatch tonight, I think Jerry probably live tweets it.

https://twitter.com/slidersfanblog/stat … 9442130945

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETZgxsYWoAEwLKe?format=jpg&name=small

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O'Keefe is useless now, same for Alex the Drunk Jones.  Anybody can make crap up, and Fox News runs with it, and Trump repeats it as his own.  Middle-aged and older white men LOVE this stuff, they eat it up.  I truly don't know where that comes from?  It's quite bizarre.  For decades my father (an old school union-backing liberal) was the one who talked about conspiracies the right wing was often a part of.  Usually falling on deaf ears.  Now it's flipped, it's seemingly every other guy in his generation who are spouting them nonstop, usually against liberals or the establishment.  Most are so silly.  The virus is a perfect example.  Trump babbled about a couple of "miracle drugs," so a dentist we know literally stormed a pharmacy for them the same day!!  Sheep.

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New Biden ad hitting Trump on virus response.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1241471645233053699

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At this point, it seems the general plan is to keep the number of cases steady so the hospitals are not overloaded.  That's the whole reason for the lockdowns and what not.  I don't think the CDC actually expects it to go away anytime soon.  Herd immunity followed by a vaccine seem like the primary ways to stop it, though both are months and months away.

So I did meet up with Jerry last week, and gave him a card that I printed out "from the forum."  I got him to do a quick video for the anniversary, which I've sent over to actual Sliders fan accounts Jim from Slidecage (https://www.instagram.com/slidersfanblog/) and Alex from Slider Dimension (https://www.instagram.com/slidersdimension/) with instructions to post that on the 22nd for the anniversary.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9zsC1eHNMa … _copy_link

https://i.ibb.co/QJ6KMNT/Sliders-Post-Card-25.jpg

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The armed guard thing is a bit ridiculous.  That said, Fauci isn't ruling out a nationwide lockdown of restaurants and bars.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/15/politics … index.html

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First of all, if the virus isn't gone by effing November, we have bigger problems than an election.  There would have been anarchy and violence in the streets, a total breakdown of society.

So this sounds pretty bad, in that even our cancellation of large events may not make a difference. Are they exaggerating? Nobody knows. I will report that some larger cities in the NY area have begun curfews and closing bars early.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … lized.html

It seems that fresher research is beginning to find more evidence that the virus spreads quite well from asymptomatic people (not sick), perhaps most widely of all. This is likely why countries like France, Spain, and Israel have basically quarantined everyone like Italy.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/health/c … index.html

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Trump took ZERO responsibility today.  Meanwhile Jared Kushner put in charge, has no clue what to do, asked his brother's father in law, who asked for help ON FACEBOOK!!!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … 1jwHXZPA8U

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I cannot see the economy or stock market having enough of a turn around over the summer.  Historically, when Presidents commit big scandals, it often harms his successive candidate from that party.  When the President directly or indirectly presides over nationwide disruptions or loss in people's livelihoods, that's the end of the line.  Hoover, Truman with Eisenhower, Carter, Bush Sr., even Bush Jr. with McCain all doomed.  They'll try to paint Biden as senile but their own guy has now been carved into granite as incompetent. 

Just think, had the Republicans in the Senate done what was right, and kicked Trump out back in January, Mike Pence would have taken over.  It's quite likely he would have been about 20,000x more receptive to his staff's seriousness of this pandemic, and acted quickly.

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I'd take my dog over Trump right now.  Here's your mic drop moment....

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/12/81488135 … fell-short

“Trump did not push to do aggressive testing because more testing might have led to more cases being discovered of the Coronavirus outbreak, and Trump made it clear the lower the numbers on Coronavirus, the better for the president and his re-election this fall.”

So I have an interesting request.  Before his play ends (about a week before the 25th anniversary), I was gonna visit Jerry O'Connell at the stage door.  Maybe get him to say a few things on video for the 25th.  I was thinking of printing him a card or something as a "thank you."  Anybody got any ideas?

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

So I know we talked a bit about my wife and me trying to have a kid.  Well, I wanted to announce that last week, she gave birth to our daughter!  Just wanted you guys to know that 1) so you didn't feel so bad about what happened before and 2) so you won't worry if I'm not here as much in the next few weeks smile

Congrats!  Just read this obviously.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

Have you gotten a chance to see the play?  How is it?  I had seen a few times he was involved with it, and that it's a new production.

No, it's not really my cup of tea.

The goofball did post a video meeting a Sliders fan who seemed to be French maybe?

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7H84j4pIsi/

Jerry is in the production through March 15, should you wish to see him.  He also signs through the mail, so send your stuff to the theatre!  LOL

https://www.roundabouttheatre.org/get-t … iers-play/

Jerry O'Connell
c/o A Soldier's Play
c/o American Airlines Theatre
227 W 42nd St
New York, NY 10036

http://www.playbill.com/article/talia-s … icked-tour

Somehow I missed this last fall, but Cleavant Derricks joined the Wicked (Broadway Musical) National Tour, beginning in Las Vegas, followed by New Orleans, Atlanta, Jacksonville, and St. Louis. 

https://wickedthemusical.com/tickets/#tour

City                   Dates                         Venue           
Little Rock, AR   01/01/20 - 01/19/20  Robinson Performance Hall
Columbia, SC    01/22/20 - 02/09/20  Koger Center for the Arts
Baltimore, MD   02/12/20 - 03/08/20  The Hippodrome Theatre
Madison, WI     03/11/20 - 03/29/20  Overture Center for the Arts
East Lansing, MI 04/01/20 - 04/19/20  Wharton Center
Columbus, OH  04/22/20 - 05/17/20  Ohio Theatre
Norfolk, VA       05/20/20 - 05/31/20  Chrysler Hall
Richmond, VA   06/03/20 - 06/14/20  Altria Theater
Des Moines, IA 06/17/20 - 07/05/20  Des Moines Civic Center
Vancouver, BC 07/09/20 - 07/26/20  Queen Elizabeth Theatre
Calgary, AB     07/29/20 - 08/09/20   Southern Jubilee Auditorium
Edmonton, AB 08/12/20 - 08/23/20   Northern Jubilee Auditorium
Durham, NC    09/30/20 - 10/25/20   Durham Performing Arts Center
Greensboro, NC 11/18/20 - 12/06/20  Tanger Center
Charlotte, NC  12/09/20 - 01/10/21   Ovens Auditorium

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S15 has been good so far.  It's a shame Informant has vanished, as they FINALLY brought back brother Adam from the cage!

I had a great time watching the film in the theater yesterday, so there's not much I can really say to bash or praise it.  LucasFilm made it quite clear this one was wrapping up the Skywalker story, and it did that for sure.  I felt the story itself, was very strong, overflowing with Star Wars mythos and the action was nonstop.  The major issue I had was the editing.  Way too often, it was abundantly clear that they were chopping massive swaths of story out of the film, leaving the viewer with head-scratching confusion.  The Lorii/Poe interaction, big time.  Poe and Finn sadly remained complete corn-balls right to the end, a drastically lame choice for a series that gave us Solo and Lando.  Rey was amazing, Daisy was amazing, well done.  Driver, ehhhh, just can't get used to him.  The cameos were terrific.  Again, had this been a mini-series or TWO movies rather than one, the story would really have come to life.  As a result, it was just rushed way too much.  I have to think an extended cut could be in the cards that might return the pace to normal.