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Probably use something like they did with John Rhys-Davies on Sliders and Michael Shanks on Stargate; there will be some kind of minor adjustment to make the name stand out such as "and featuring Wentworth Miller as Captain Cold".  It's really not as important with the Berlanti shows, though - there are no opening credits.

As for Legends, I still think we're going to get a kind of reset button next week.  The characters on the Waverider will probably become a paradox that exist outside of time or something.  As a result, their original selves before the time trip will still exist in present day as though nothing happened, but the Waverider crew will go on as characters with no home to go back to because there's a version of them already filling that space.  It would help explain why they stay stuck with Rip instead of going back home once Savage is dead.

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Given the Vancouver move, I'm betting this will be basically a new Supergirl series.  They won't be transporting many (if any) existing sets; not all of the actors will transition; may not even keep some of the writers and producers depending on if they were LA residents who don't want to move.

It will be interesting to see how they handle it, but I don't see them keeping it separate from the Arrowverse any longer; and the easiest fix for the entire thing would be to strand Kara in the Arrowverse away from her friends, family and life.  Could actually be an interesting turn to give new life and direction to the series if they handle it right.

One interesting way to handle it would be Rip Hunter finding Supergirl floating unconscious in the time stream.  They could actually use her on Legends first and then make her second season basically a spin off of Legends.  Supergirl season two could then explore how she ended up floating out there.

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There seemed to be something like the hyperloop in "Double Cross"; there were clearly high speed trains in California on Logan's world, but the hyperloop design could further be an explanation for the tubes on the Golden Gate Bridge.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/0 … las-vegas/

Just make sure to bring your gear if you want to ride on top.

724

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Enh; if Rome is going to burn anyway, we may as well have Nero play us a tune.  Trump will be entertaining if nothing else.

725

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Deadline has put up a more in-depth article on Supergirl's renewal issues:

http://deadline.com/2016/05/supergirl-s … 201750208/

They were expecting a California tax credit, and the credit was denied.   As a result, they produced in California for zero financial benefit when they could have been in Vancouver getting a tax credit there.  That's where the talk of moving the show to Vancouver has come from.

If Supergirl survives through a move to Vancouver, I'm betting on a significant retooling that will probably shed some cast.  There would also likely be some cast or recurring additions because you only get that Canadian tax credit if you use a certain percentage of Canadian actors in your production (not necessarily main cast).

The question is whether they will pull a Sliders season two and try to ignore or gloss over the season one cliffhanger so they can just dump Supergirl and a couple of her cast into the Arrowverse.  Kicking Supergirl out of her universe with no way home would be the quickest and cleanest way to explain all the missing cast (especially the likely event that Calista Flockhart would not be interested in going to Vancouver - she's too big of a character to ignore unless you did a "stranded away from home" approach for Kara).

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Some light being shed on why Supergirl hadn't been renewed yet:

https://www.thewrap.com/supergirl-renew … exclusive/

CBS is paying 3 million *per episode* just for the license fee to have the show?!  That's before they pay a dime toward actually making the show.  Yikes.   In today's terms, you could probably make two episodes of Sliders just off that license fee.

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When I saw the fireball coming down at the end of the episode, I really thought it was Fort Rozz falling back to earth because she didn't fly it far enough away; I started laughing at that one.

Supergirl really seems like it's written for kids; I don't know if that was their intention, but it's what they accomplished.   On that note, I have an idea what was in the Kryptonian ship in the cliffhanger.   I place my bet it's either Krypto the super dog or Supergirl's classic pet Streaky the super cat.  That would fit with the tone they've set, and kids would probably love it.

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Informant wrote:

That is such a big mistake. They're looking for a new Star Wars. I haven't heard anyone talk about Avatar in years though. I never even bothered to see it, because it looked like some thinly veiled "lesson" movie. Blah blah big oil whatever.

You ever see the story of Pocahontas?  Then you pretty much saw Avatar.

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I think Warner is still suffering from the same problem it has for decades - the studio bosses just absolutely don't get this super-hero thing.   And this article about David Goyer probably sums it up:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/25/ … ecade-ago/

This movie was Warner execs throwing their hands up in the air saying they didn't know what else to do.

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That's my thought too.  Legends was fun at first, but it's turned out to largely be the same story every week with different set dressing.  I think that the writers and producers have spread themselves too thin and all of the shows are suffering for it.

That aside, I was amused that Heatwave chose the primary colors of green and yellow for his western costume.  Those are the colors of the classic Chronos costume in the comics (green shirt with yellow collar).

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/5/53/Chronos_0003.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141022113943

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I think that the difference between this and Star Wars is that Star Wars was fun.  People can forgive a lot if they're having fun; and the two actors that carried that exceptionally well were playing Rey and Finn.

Batman V Superman is pretty depressing; and that's kind of amazing when you consider that its inspiration (The Dark Knight Returns) had a lot of fun with satire despite being dark.  And I do hold Snyder responsible for that based on his similar tone in things like Suckerpunch.  He's probably not, but I imagine Snyder as this gloomy, emo guy directing the world to his downbeat view.

But yeah, it is kind of silly when you realize Lois is depicted as a better detective than Batman.

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I met Dean Cain a couple of years ago, and I've got to say he wasn't really acting at all as Clark Kent.  Dean is one of the most genuine and likeable people I've ever met; if I were to imagine going somewhere and having a sit down conversation with a real Superman, Dean was it for me.

Of course, we didn't talk long (nor sit down) because there was a long line of people waiting for the opportunity, but I was humorously surprised by a non-Boy Scout thing he said. I asked him what he thought of the ending of Man of Steel with Superman snapping Zod's neck, and Dean said "I would have killed the son of a bitch too!'

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:
ireactions wrote:

According to a November 2015 interview, they're not being filmed back to back.

http://batman-news.com/2015/11/13/wonde … -revealed/

That makes much more sense.  But if that's the case, the titling is a bit bizarre.  Oh well, my mistake.

They'll likely take the Part 1 out of it.   Part 1 could change to something like "Justice League: New Gods" and Part 2 maybe "Justice League: Cosmic Odyssey" (using Darkseid stories as the origin of those two names - just as "Age of Ultron" was the title of a comics story).  Of course, they may take a more direct approach with "Justice League: Omega" or something.

The Russo brothers have stated this is their intention with Infinity War Part 1 and 2; they said that one of them may not even be named Infinity War at all.  The Part 1 and Part 2 are just place holders until they decide on the title.

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DieselMickyDolenz wrote:
Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I do wonder if it's going to have any impact on the Arrowverse.  Will Barry try and look for alien life?  Will Kara ever reference the Flash again?

I know that one of the producers has said that Barry's trip to Kara's Earth will be referenced in an upcoming episode of The Flash. The production team wasn't able to nail down exactly when the Supergirl episode would air (different networks) in order to make it tie in directly. I expect it won't be more than a throw away remark.

I would guess we'll see the reference in the next Flash episode.  I notice that this week's ep reintroduced us to the device Flash was wearing on his chest when he arrived on Supergirl's earth.  Flash doesn't usually keep us waiting on use of plot devices.

As for future references, I'm sure they'll throw something in on the rare occasion, but they'll probably focus on just doing more crossovers.  In the end, Flash also has a built in way to permanently get all the toys in one box - that future newspaper headline that mentioned the red skies.  During the Crisis on Infinite Earths, those red skies were actually the bleed between universes as the walls of reality were starting to break down.  With most of the multiverse destroyed, the final remaining earths merged together to form a single prime reality.

This could happen with the Supergirl / Arrowverse / Earth 2, etc realities if CBS decides to let it happen.  The universe merger certainly had a great many hiccups in the aftermath, though; but that just gives story to explore.

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Something I had forgot to remark on, but the latest episode of Flash had Jessie leaving for Opal City; it could be just an Easter egg, or it could be a set up for something more.

Opal City is the home of Starman who had powers somewhat akin to Green Lantern but based on technology; he was originally an Earth 2 character who fought alongside Jay Garrick in the Justice Society.  After Starman became an old man, he passed along his equipment to his more respectable son only to see him shot and killed on his first outing as a hero.  The more rebellious son then took up the mantle in his own counter-culture style, and it went on to become a really great comic based in both science and mysticism.

One of the main characters in the book was The Shade - an old Jay Garrick villain who was possessed by some kind of shadow entity that fell from the stars.  While giving The Shade the power to manipulate shadow into solid forms, it also made him immortal and thus hundreds of years old in present day.

In any case, Opal has many ties to Earth 2 and even Jay Garrick, so I'm thinking we'll be seeing much more of that.  This version of Starman was also considered to become a tv series for ABC many years ago, but ultimately they passed on it.

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Brimstone was one I forgot about; a really great show I would like to see again.

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Informant wrote:

I don't get the last episode of Agents of SHIELD. Why would Bobbi and Hunter have to be disavowed by an organization that has already been disavowed?

They were double secret disavowed.

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The movie has some truly peculiar sequences ... a strange visit from the Flash calling attention to Lois in a subplot that has no payoff -- it's awkward.

To me, it jumped out as something comic fans would grab onto; the presentation was very similar to the sequence of events where Flash was running himself to death to save the universe in Crisis on Infinite Earths:

http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/1649657-crisis_on_infinite_earths__2_batman_flash.jpg

The above scene occurred in issue 1 and had no pay off until issue 8.

As he ran to catch a tachyon that was powering a world breaking cannon, Flash began to travel back in time and had brief moments where he appeared to people as he traveled backwards.  Flash kept trying to warn them of what was coming, but no one ever understood what he meant; so events unfolded as they would have anyway.

If it had not been framed as a dream in this movie, I would say this is exactly what they were trying to do with the Batman v Superman cameo; they were giving us a glimpse from the end of this big story where Flash is sacrificing himself.   But, it seemed to be shown as a dream; so that puts things in a more vague fog.

As for the movie itself, it wasn't bad.   I'm able to overlook alot of its problems, but I do wish we would have been given a more visual example of what I think happened to Bruce in this movie.   A montage of Batman's 20 year career so far could have shown us how his heroic ideals were slowly chipped away until all that remained was the vigilante; that each loss made him cross more and more lines until finally he was at a point where he felt no remorse in killing Superman.   This journey for Bruce was hinted at (especially through Alfred's dialogue), but I think the montage would have done a much better job of making this clear.  This was a Bruce redemption story in many ways; we found him as someone who had lost his way, but he's back on the path by the end of the film.

As for Lex Jr., I understand the decision now.   Jr. was presented as a highly unbalanced person, and I would have frankly found it hard to believe such an unhinged man was able to build a multi-national corporation.  It makes much more sense that he inherited it.

I did have one last thought watching the movie, though - will the Supergirl series keep it's quasi-continuity with the film universe and play off the death of Superman?  The closing minutes of the season finale could just flash up on the news feeds "Superman dead" and show Kara's reaction.  Then it's left there until next season when they could explore a Reign of the Supermen storyline where Kon-el, John Henry Irons, the Eradicator and the Cyborg Superman all pop up trying to be replacements for Clark.  I think it would be a good direction; and that Reign story could play out over the year and end just before the next chapter of Clark's fate ends up in theaters.

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Seven Days is one I'm surprised has never been released (it it even online?).  It lasted for 66 episodes, and I usually got a giggle out of it.

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Grizzlor wrote:

The wall is simply hilarious to me.  Obama has been a deporting machine.

To understand the psychology on the situation, you have to shrink it down.   Imagine reading in your local paper that police are arresting record numbers of burglars in your city; do you say to yourself, "The law seems to have a handle on this; I guess I don't really need to lock my doors or pay for that security system anymore."

If you're honest with yourself, there is something inside you that gives you a sense of security having a door on your dwelling that you can close and lock.  The door isn't going to stop anyone that really wants to get inside; they can pick the lock or even just kick the door in, yet you still have a solid door that you can lock.

Most people want something solid that they can see and touch; statistics don't make the average person feel safe.  And we're beyond a fence doing the trick too; that's like saying only put a screen door on your home.  Fear rarely equals reason.  It's just human nature.

As for the trade deals, it can change; but what many can't accept or don't understand is that it will be very painful to change.  Is Trump selling it that way?  Of course not; no one would buy it.  Personally, I don't believe Trump ever thought he would be this successful.  I believe Trump's plan was to make a reasonable showing , say what people wanted to hear and then live the rest of his life off million dollar speaking fees at various events.  This whole thing has gotten away from him, and he's just holding on.

Trump loves running for President; when he becomes President, he isn't going to be as enthused.  It could easily turn into a Ulysses S Grant scenario where you have a President who doesn't really care and let's others run it.  Some would argue that's been the Obama philosophy too, but I believe he has had many pet issues he has pushed as personal goals.

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My brother recently started working for a conservative talk radio station that opened in our area, so I've been listening to it.  I think it was Lars Larson who gave a good idea what the average Trump voter is thinking.

Lars stated that the Trump voter honestly doesn't care about most of what Trump says; instead they are looking at two things as their expectation.  They want the wall at the Mexico border built, and they want the Trade deals to change (which are blamed with costing American jobs).  Trump has owned these issues during the campaign, and his people believe he is the only one running who hasn't had a chance to try to address them.

The American people are used to being conned; it's an accepted form of American politics and the expected motivation of all candidates.  But many people have reached the point where they no longer feel like they are being conned - they instead feel like they've been kicked in the stomach and robbed.  There is a difference.

People have to be thrown a bone every once in awhile; and in this election, the wall has turned out to be the bone for many people.

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Grizzlor wrote:

not sure what they needed a kickstarter for?  seems like a fairly uncomplicated game, and there are people making homebrew games for NES, and selling them in "new" boxes with carts and manuals for $40-$60 all without the need for tens of thousands of dollars.

Some people do Kickstarter just for the hope of publicity; it can create a viral message as fans tell their friends about it to get donations.   It's pretty ingenious - why pay for advertising your product when people will pay you.

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Watch the video - it looks like something Remmy would see on tv while sitting in the Motel 12 on some alternate earth.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ba … for-the-ne

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I've been hearing the comparisons between Trump and George Wallace today, so I decided to read a little into Wallace's background (someone I had heard of but didn't know many details).  I found something pretty startling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_ … ential_run

When Wallace ran for President in 1968, he seriously considered naming (then alive) Col. Sanders of Kentucky Fried Chicken as his running mate.   Now *there's* a priceless Sliders alternate history; there was a true, albeit remote, possibility that Col. Sanders could have been President of the United States if Wallace had been elected and died in office.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Alan Sepinwall noted that they separate Jackson and Stein as quickly as possible because Firestorm can handle pretty much any problem the team can face.  Now it's all I can think about.

What they should have done is something like a unfinished plotline in the comics from before the New 52 started.  The idea was that the Firestorm matrix had become unstable; and every time they turned into Firestorm it was burning seconds on the countdown clock until Firestorm would go thermonuclear and kill himself and everyone around him.  They could have instituted the concept after Stein had already committed to the time trip and it was too late to go back home.

I believe making Firestorm use dangerous would have been a better way to limit his appearances.

I haven't watched all of the latest episode yet, but I did have a thought about Heatwave.  What if he and Cold are playing a long game to steal the time ship?  They mentioned at the start that this was their goal; and if Cold is able to continue gaining trust with Rip, he may get an opportunity to gain control of the ship.  It would be interesting and redeeming to Leonard and Mick's villainy if they turn out to be the true villains of the series in the final episodes after Savage is defeated.

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So wait a minute - Ted Cruz is Pentecostal?  I remember all the grief Romney got for being Mormon; and from my own experience, Pentecostals aren't that far off on the odd scale.  I find it interesting how quiet they kept this on Cruz but blasted Romney's religion with great vigor.

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I'm beginning to wonder if we'll get a pseudo reset button at the end of Legends season one.  The Heatwave situation is on the verge of ruining a good character dynamic for Flash, and I can't imagine they would do that.  There's also the issue of throwing away the present day Hawkman.

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Well, over the past two hours I have received six robo calls from Ted Cruz; I'm still getting them even after 9pm.  For pestering me so fully at home during a rare time to relax, there is no way in hell I will ever vote for Ted Cruz for anything.  One call would be more than enough; even the Asian guy from "Microsoft" trying to scam his way into my computer only calls once a week!

I have received no robo call from any other candidate.  Only Ted.

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Norman Lear probably put it best - in this election, Trump is America's middle finger.

Many of the American people have felt beaten down and powerless for a long time; even when they vote for change and win, nothing really changes (or if it does, it just gets worse).  After accepting there's nothing that can really be done about the situation, how do people show their frustration?  They give the middle finger (and in this case vote Trump).  it seems to be working too; from their bewilderment to their anger, the pros are reacting in many ways like someone just flipped them off.

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It wasn't as obvious in animation, but it's really following the 90's animated series format.  If you look at Batman Beyond, Batman was presently operating in our frame during 1999; he had his heart attack in 2019; and old Bruce was discovered by Terry in 2039.  Now it depends on how you want to extrapolate things - do you believe Bruce was in his mid to late 50's when he had the heart attack?  Mid to late 70's as old Bruce?  If so, then that means he was in his mid to late 30's when Batman Beyond debuted (and aging more as Justice League progressed).

To further back up how old Bruce would be in 1999, look at the main Batman animated series.  Bruce had been operating as Batman for a long time before Superman showed up.   Mask of the Phantasm showed us when he began; the Robin two parter showed us when he found the younger Robin while not wearing the yellow oval.

The only part that doesn't make sense to me, and never has, is the part where Bruce retires early.  The animated series got it right with him going on into true old age.

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I would keep in mind too what I pointed out at the beginning of the season; the Zoom plotline could be a take on the Garrick villain called The Rival.   In later presentations The Rival was presented as someone who looked like Jay.  I think that's probably where they're going with this, but I do think it was too soon to go back to that same idea.

For another season wide villain, I would look at Abra Kadabra.  In the comics, he was kind of a goofball who traveled from the 64th century with circuitry woven into his skin that allowed him to perform feats that seemed like magic.   The hook for him is what they did later.  Wally West was fighting him when Abra's defeat lead to the circuitry catching on fire with the skin on Abra's entire body burning.   The resultant short circuit led to Abra shifting out of phase and becoming a kind of ghost for a bit, but he made it back into the solid world by exploiting a Mirror Master device.

The rub here is that when Abra came back, he wasn't goofy anymore; he was scary as hell and a force to be reckoned with.

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Informant wrote:

The Flash --
I'm not sure who the man in the mask is. I've seen theories that it could be Earth-2 Wally West, but I don't know. Could there be more than two Jay Garricks? Or could the Jay we know not even be Jay at all (his double is named Hunter Zolomon, after all.

We've taken for granted that Jay was telling the truth and that he lost his speed (the latest story being the Velocity drug).  What if this Jay never had speed to begin with?  I'll admit that this Zoom story is far from elegant and in danger of becoming non-sensical.  I fear the reveal is not going to be satisfying.  I did see one amusing argument, though.  What if the dimension tunnel image of John Wesley Shipp as 1990's Flash was not just a wink?  Could Zoom be the Barry Allen of the 1990's Flash series?

As for Wally, he's kind of bland on the show; but they haven't given him a lot to do yet.  To be honest, I think they would have been better off to introduce Bart Allen / Impulse; he has more of an instant vibrant character that could have shaken things up.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Re: Flash

Any idea who the guy in the mask in the prison cell on Earth-2 was?  My first thought was Earth 2 Diggle (when we briefly saw him in the first Earth-2 episode) but now I have no idea.

Well, the obvious answer is that it's Earth 2 Jay Garrick which means the Jay we've known is not the real one.  One subtle piece of evidence for the masked man's identity - the jail cells.   Jessie was in a cell with bars; it's all that was needed for her.  Barry was in a cell with some kind of glass; something to hinder speedsters.  Well, the masked man was also in a glass cell.

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I was turned off to the GQ Jimmy until I saw that this is basically a battle-worn Jimmy.  He usually starts out as a "kid" in most tellings of the Superman mythos, but this is the guy that's been Superman's pal for years.  I can also buy the fear and think it's what makes the character.  Jimmy likely didn't start with that, but after years of facing life and death situations with monsters, it would wear on him.   He's got Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which cripples even the manliest of men who serve in our military.

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Informant wrote:

Maybe if Civil War had been the first Captain America movie, it would have made more sense. These characters wouldn't know each other, or how to work with each other. They would be uneasy, and conflict could arise. But one of the first things you learn about using a gun is that you don't even point the thing at anything that you don't intend to destroy. I honestly can't buy into a plot where Captain America or Iron Man would intend to kill each other, and if that is taken off the table, the whole thing looks more like childish bickering than a real plot. If Civil War had been the first movie, it would have explained why those two characters bicker so much later, but earlier bickering can't explain them full-on turning on each other.

The trailers place emphasis on super-hero registration, but I'm not sure that's the full reason for the fight.  In the previous Cap movie, Zola insinuated that the Winter Soldier killed Tony Stark's parents.  I'm not sure how much Tony cared about his Dad, but his Mom may be a different story.  In that light, such a revelation would be analogous to Batman finding out that his parents were killed by Superman's pal Jimmy Olsen.  Would Bruce care if Clark claimed Jimmy was brainwashed at the time?

As for Civil War, I think the comic idea worked a little better than this movie spin; but it had problems too.  The comics presented the spark point as a bunch of kids playing hero which led to the destruction of a town (including a school full of kids).  The government then pushed for super powered registration and mandatory training of people with powers.  It was a metaphor for the current U.S. debate on gun control and school violence. Despite Cap's own experience in being helped by his army training, he saw too much of a Nazi / Jew dynamic in the idea of registration; so Cap was opposed.  Iron Man had a more modern point of view removed from the idea of Jewish concentration camps because all he had ever seen of that was in books or movies.  It was of an academic exercise to Tony while Cap had his heart in it.

We may see some of the above brought up in the movie version of Civil War; might see none of it.  I don't think think Civil War was a response to Batman v Superman, though.  I think it was a response to the Spider-man rights becoming available.  Marvel wanted a quick way to shove Spidey into things as part of a big event; and the comics version of Civil War fit that bill.

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Informant wrote:

I remember one comic where (I think it was) Wally West was thrown off of a bridge, and to him the fall took forever. He was helpless in the situation, but time was still slow around him and all he could do was fall for what would have been like hours to him.

Reminds me of one of my favorite Flash stories from the Wally West years:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.co … ts-a-rule/

I liked most of the Messner-Loebs stuff; he had a good balance of wonder with a sense of humanity.  He also wrote my hands down favorite Flash story which presented the entire life of Barry Allen and how the events of his death led to him becoming the lightning bolt that gave him his powers in the first place.

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My final word on this - it actually hit 550k.  I'm astounded.  550k for a pitch.

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ireactions wrote:

SUPERGIRL's Winn is *not* a completely new character. At all.

*cue ominous music*

I've seen some interesting speculation that could help the writers get out of a seemingly hopeless love triangle.  Toyman kept mentioning how Winn was his greatest creation, and it did strike me as odd how he kept emphasing it.  To say it once was kind of ironic; to say it a few times started to be weird.

What if Winn is an android?   A toy.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

One thing that's bothered me about Hawkman/Hawkgirl: what is the current mythos for them in the comics?  Because in the DCAU, they come from a different planet (Thanagar).  But the origin in the Arrowverse is totally different.  What's the more-correct answer?

What they are doing in the Arrowverse is the original origin of the hawks put forth in the 1940's comics.  The main difference is that Hath-set was a separate character and not Vandal Savage.   The alien origins of Hawkman didn't appear until the Silver Age reboot in the 1960's; and that was a different character (in the same way Jay Garrick is not Barry Allen).  In the late 90's comics, Geoff Johns combined the two hawk origins into one with the Hawks being aliens who crashed in ancient Egypt and were worshipped as gods because of their wings.  The DCAU followed the Johns story (those DCAU Hawkman episodes in fact written by Johns also), but they added in all that stuff about John Stewart and Shadow Thief which had never been seen before.

As for Legends of Tomorrow, I liked it.  It had a fun feel like Flash and lots of comics references; and I liked the twist on why the characters were chosen for the mission.  I wouldn't worry too much about longevity, though.  Rumor is that this essentially will be a mini-series.   The rumor puts forth that Legends will follow the American Horror Story model and be a completely different show each year.   The thought makes sense; the title chosen for this series was taken from a DC anthology title called Legends of the DC Universe.

Rumor further has it that next season would be Legends of Magic with John Constantine in the lead.

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With 9 hours to go, almost 479k raised.  Their original goal of 550k doesn't seem so outlandish now.

I have to admit they added much better rewards this time; I love the animation cels.

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I was at the Captain America panel at Wizard World New Orleans this past weekend, and I got a chance to ask a question to the stage full of just about everybody from Chris Evans to Jeremy Renner to the Russo brothers.  I know that these panels are expected to be softball questions; more entertainment than substance, and I thought I had a decent one based on an old Cap What If story where Cap ran for President.  I wanted to ask if Chris and Anthony Mackie would live out the old story and join the presidential election as running mates given that it's back in style for celebrities to run for president these days.

I made the mistake of leading off with the words "presidential election", and Mackie jumped out of his chair and started screaming at me "No!  No!  No!  You are *not* asking this question!  Just go!" as he pointed at the door.  I was laughing my head off about it and kept trying to finish the question, but he was just adamant and frankly angry.  I don't think he ever did actually hear what my question was; he wouldn't stop screaming until I finally walked away still laughing.

So inadvertently, I added something interesting to the panel after all.

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ireactions wrote:

The only thing I have on "The Chasm" right now is that a producer on the show publicly urged fans not to watch it.

You could always play a game of Where's Waldo and look for the singer from Fastball who was a non-speaking, background extra for a day.  I'm going strictly by memory on this, but I believe it was Miles Zuniga.   He mentioned in an online interview that he did one day on Sliders; but when it came time for day two, he heard that Fastballs's new song "The Way" was taking off on the charts, so he blew off Sliders and just didn't show up for the rest of his time there.

He didn't have any kind words for his brief time on Sliders.  I remember him saying he didn't feel like he was treated well and believed he was basically just walking furniture (Interestingly, JRD once mentioned even he felt the same way).

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It's being funded by a Kickstarter campaign, but is close enough to its goal that it seems assured:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/88 … omic-books

I can tell you from experience that their goal will not cover the expense of getting it out there; they must be planning to put some of their own money with it.  It is a company, though; and with books like Volcanosaurus in their catalog - what can go wrong?

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Seems to be doing pretty good so far - almost 100k in 24 hours.

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Stumbled across this on a Google search for something else.  Looks like progress is slow if not completely stalled, but just the mock up image is cool to see.

http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/to … fi-series/

It's already made it's goal, so we're getting at least 3 new episodes.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ms … gbackmst3k

I still remember the good 'ole days of "Caption This!" on the Sci-Fi Channel site where they would put up screen caps from the live tv feed and anyone looking at it could write a one liner about the cap like on MST3K.  We had a lot of fun with that.  smile

http://slidersweb.net/blinker/capped/index.htm

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Kind of odd to do a Kickstarter to fund just a pitch, but I do love Dragon's Lair and Don Bluth animation.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/do … -the-movie

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ireactions wrote:

Thanks, TF.

Thanks, man.  smile

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Well, see, if we were being realistic with the concept of alternate worlds, wouldn't the *vast* majority of Earths traveled to be lifeless?  If we're starting with the first possible branching point, it'd be the big bang, and if that hadn't happened the exact way that it did, the Earth wouldn't be able to support life.  At least one planet would've, statistically speaking, but it wouldn't have been the Earth.  Whether or not life is common or extremely uncommon in the universe, the odds are very unlikely that the Sliders would come across intelligent life on most of the worlds they saw.

For me, the idea is localized travel through reality.  To give a concrete analogy, if you walk to the house next door to yours, the area is obviously going to look similar to your home (your "world").  If you keep walking down the street, the differences start to increase, but it's still familiar.  Once you travel a few miles, you could be in the middle of nowhere where there is no one and nothing.

With the timer, I believe it's limited power amounts to something like walking from your home.  However, keep in mind that because of the necessary countdown trick, the timer would be "walking" you in an expanding or shrinking circle (The Helix Spiral).  Without going in a straight line, it would take much, much longer to gain ground away from home.

As for the catalyst that splinters reality into alternate earths, I believe it's a human conceit that we effect this solely through free will.  You can force your decisions if you are determined about something; but what if it's something you didn't care much about?

Alternate reality theory looks at electron spin and how it's direction affects reality.  For example, if enough electrons spin a different way from our reality, an impulse in your brain may shift.  Think about all the choices you make in a day regarding things that weren't really important to you.  What made you feel like wearing the red shirt instead of the blue?  If you chose the red, maybe it caught someone's attention causing them to interact with you and opening a new decision tree.  If you chose the blue, maybe you escaped that person's notice and that decision tree is closed.

I believe reality splinters based on the decisions we didn't make; it breaks when we don't care.

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ireactions wrote:

Thanks, Informant. It may be "Reassemble." It may be "Remix." It may be nothing. I'm going to finish Part 5 and see if the time gap is a something that should be filled or something that should be left alone.

It would depend on the context, but if you have a revelation, you tend to Reassess before making a change.  Or perhaps you try to fight against the path and cast a Rebuke.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Maybe this will happen later in the season, but I was sorta hoping they'd have more fun with the alternate worlds on the show like Fringe did.  Is the only difference between Earth 1 and Earth 2 who the Flash is?  Why haven't the writers taken advantage of differences in pop culture, history, etc?  I'd also like to see them move beyond Earth 2.

Jay did mention something about The War of the Americas (which is likely a modern placeholder for World War II so that Jay can still have roots in his origins); but that's all we have so far.  I imagine Barry will be visiting Earth 2 at some point, so we're likely to get more then.

Beyond Earth 2, I still believe this is a perfect opportunity to visit a version the big guns they don 't seem to be allowed to use.  Earth 3 gives us the Crime Syndicate consisting of Ultraman, Owl Man, Super Woman, Power Ring and of course Johnny Quick.  They are not just doubles of Clark Kent, etc; they are their own unique characters in the comics with different origins from the heroes; it should be just enough to let them be used without stepping on any plans for Superman, etc.

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Informant wrote:

I don't think that Zoom is Wells. I think that they're just using this opportunity to keep Tom on the cast. Making him the villain again would just create the same problem next year.

I'll be interested to see what they do with it.  They have an opportunity to play with expectations because we already have an image of Wells in our head, but that was really just Thawne using the face of Wells.  An interesting twist would be seeing that Thawne was actually much nicer and less arrogant than the real Wells.

Wells may not turn out to be Zoom; but he may be a colossal a-hole that's a villain in his own Luthor type way.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I thought both premieres were very strong.  I felt that Flash followed up with their first season pretty well (although the way they handled the singularity was a bit botched IMO).  I'm interested to see what Jay Garrick brings to the table, and I'm interested in both Zoom and whatever happens with Dr. Wells.

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They are placing a lot of other elements into if, but it looks like the core concept of this Zoom is that he is the Jay Garrick Flash villain known as The Rival:

http://comicsalliance.com/files/2013/11/Rival-Flash2.jpg

The Rival first appeared in Flash Comics #104 (February 1949). He is Dr. Edward Clariss, a professor at the university attended by the Golden Age Flash, Jay Garrick. He believes he has recreated the formula that gave Garrick his speed, which he calls "Velocity 9." He had heard Joan one night talking about how the Flash gave his speed to another student, which helped him get the last formula. Bitter at the scientific community's rejection of his claims, Clariss becomes a criminal. He wore a darker version of Flash's outfit and gave it to several other criminals. The Rival's version of the formula proves to be temporary, and he is defeated and jailed.

Velocity 9 has it's own further history with the Earth 1 reality, but the main reason I point out The Rival is because his origin has him as a contemporary scientist to Jay Garrick.  If Zoom tracks with this, then I would expect his identity to be a double of someone from the main cast.  Wells is the easy answer; Barry himself is a possibility; but I'm betting it will turn out to be a double of Eddie Thawne who lived up to the genius of his blood line on Earth 2.

On a side note, looks like Sliders once again had its influence on parallel reality TV; we got something very much like our vortex, and I swear that even sounded reminiscent to the noise our vortex made when it opened and closed.

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lol

I would keep in mind that Netflix has a different financial model than television or even movies; Netflix is primarily subscriber based.  Will people drop their sub because they didn't care for Jessica Jones?  Unlikely because Netflix offers more than just Jessica Jones.  Will more people sub just for Jessica Jones?  Unlikely because Netflix already pulled in the Marvel audience with Daredevil.

That said, I think Jones would have worked better as the last release and a bridge to The Defenders.  I believe Jones is the weakest of the four and it needs a little something extra to lift it up.

Iron Fist shouldn't be a head scratcher on story, though; it could be spun as Kung Fu meets Game of Thrones.  Budget is an issue, but I think it can be managed.  To my understanding, the tv side (including Netflix) is still under Perlmutter.

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ireactions wrote:

I would be astonished if the real San Francisco has ever appeared in SLIDERS outside of stock footage of the Golden Gate Bridge.

Rembrandt's driving scene in the pilot was in San Francisco, I believe.  The building for Rembrandt's apartment was also featured in the early season's of Monk; I think it was his first assistant's house.

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The season one and two houses were in Vancouver.  I had some information on the neighborhood the main house is located in, but I would need to dig around to find it.  I do remember that the white picket fence was only put there for the show.

But here's something else interesting - here's what Quinn's house might have looked like after he turned the power up too high and catapulted himself, three people and a Cadillac into another reality:

http://swamplot.com/houston-demo-artist … 013-05-08/

Don't see this one catching on mainstream, but it could lend itself to one of those mundane things that influence an alternate history.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … -skin.html

...MIT grad Dave Whitlock has not showered in a dozen years because he wants to preserve bacteria on his skin.

Instead Whitlock sprays a mist containing live bacteria on his skin twice a day, Mother Dirt, which is sold by the Cambridge-based company he helped found, AOBiome, according to CBS Boston.

Whitlock said: 'I have not taken a shower in over 12 years.

'No one did clinical trials on people taking showers every day.

'So what's the basis for assuming that that is a healthy practice.

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The scientist got the idea about 'good bacteria' when a woman he was dating asked him why her horse liked to roll on the ground and the dirt during the summertime, the New York Times reported.

Whitlock said: 'The only way that horses could evolve this behavior was if they had substantial evolutionary benefits from it.'

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One can only imagine an Abbott and Costello style routine between a frustrated Arturo and somebody who grew up saying "Ze".

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/to-av … le/2571001

In the boldest endorsement of a growing national trend, the University of Tennessee is urging incoming students and teachers to junk references to "he," "she," and "them," in favor of gender-neutral "ze" and "xe."
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"These may sound a little funny at first, but only because they are new. The she and he pronouns would sound strange too if we had been taught ze when growing up," wrote Braquet.

The shift to gender-neutral words began a few years ago and took root on some northern college campuses, but it has sped up in the wake of Olympian Bruce Jenner's shift to the transgendered Caitlyn Jenner and the media explosion that followed.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Well I don't read FF comics.  What aspects are non-negotiable when making a movie?  Does it have to be over-the-top goofy?  Do the Four have to be celebrities?  Does Reed have to be an inventor?  Does Doom have to be the center of all villainous plots?

I would say that you have to respect Ben Grimm / The Thing.  Ben is Jack Kirby (co-creator of the Fantastic Four) - the cigar chomping, gruff, bruiser with a heart of gold who's smarter and more talented than he appears to be.  Ben is the heart of the FF and a piece of the man who brought it all to life.

From what I hear, the new movie kind of marginalized Ben; but the little development he was given was to show him as someone who had an abusive childhood.  That works for Hulk; but it's not Ben.  Some unused footage seems to indicate that Trank got it right at one point; it showed Ben as a baseball player and allegedly before each game his coach would give the battle cry "It's Clobberin' Time!"  That could fit Ben.

Torch is the comic foil to the group and that should be there.  Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis really nailed the two characters in my opinion.  Reed and Sue are kind of blank archetypes really; Reed is the living exposition to what's going on, and writers have been trying to figure out what to do with Sue for a long time.  There's room to grow there, but the main aspect of the Reed character is his intelligence and inventions; without that, you have a different character.  It would be like saying we're going to take MacGyver in a new direction where he doesn't make stuff.

I do think their celebrity status is important; and even the comics have addressed how the world reacts to the reality bending experiments taking place in the Baxter Building in New York (currently the FF has been evicted and the building was brought by Peter Parker as the new HQ of his multi-million dollar company Parker Industries).

As for Doom, he didn't appear in the comics until issue 5, and I don't see him as the center of the FF world.  Doom would be off doing his own thing and not even noticing the Fantastic Four except that Reed Richards is part of it.  Doom and Reed went to college together, and Doom blames Reed for the lab explosion that disfigured his face (leading Doom to wear the iron mask).  The reality is that the explosion occurred because Doom was hasty; Reed tried to warn him the machine was going to blow up, but Doom wouldn't listen to him.  Doom started there using Reed as the scape goat for all his failures and it's just never ended; if something doesn't go Doom's way, it must be because of something Richards did.

The interesting thing in the comics is that the lab explosion actually only left a tiny scar on Doom's cheek; but Doom was so vain and OCD about his appearance that he freaked out.  Doom went to live with monks for awhile where they forged the mask for him to try to help him overcome his obsession about his face; but Doom was impatient and put the mask on while it was still heated from the forging.  That is what led to his face being horribly disfigured; it wasn't Reed at all.

However, the thing with Doom is that he's pretty much the FF's Lex Luthor.  Doom obsessively hates Reed, so he's always going to be pushing himself into the FF world just for that reason.

As for other villains in the FF universe, the biggest one is probably the Skrulls (and that's likely the key reason why Marvel Studios wants the FF license back).  The Skrulls are shape changing aliens that have been a big part of Avengers stories (including a big one called Secret Invasion); but they first appeared in Fantastic Four, so they are part of that license.  Marvel Studios also needs the FF license back to use the big Avengers villain Kang the Conqueror (who first appeared in Fantastic Four as Rama Tut).

The remaining rogues gallery of people like Puppet Master, Mole Man and the Frightful Four are better served in something like television; the only truly epic things left are Annihilus (the insect emperor of the Negative Zone dimension), Galactus and his heralds and Namor the Submariner (whose movie rights are tied up at Universal Studios).

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I'm not sure why I think of this now, but something just occurred to me about the Flash season finale. Why did Barry stop himself from saving his mom in the past?  Why did Eobard suddenly play nice and offer Barry a chance to save his mom?   Even though speculation, the below may be spoilers.

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What if Barry's mom died even without Eobard in the picture?  What if Barry's dad always ended up in jail?  Thawne could have been offering Barry a sadistic false hope; he would save his mom only to return to the present and see nothing changed.  Future Barry was waving off his past self because he knew saving her didn't matter.

The could be set up for season two.  With Eobard now erased from existence, how could he kill Barry's mom?  There could now be a search for the new killer - the original killer.  And Flash will get to keep its opening monologue about finding justice for Barry's father.