901

(35 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

I haven't seen the show yet. I might watch it after the season ends, on Netflix.

The comment about so much happening in one episode worries me though. It's a trend these days, to burn through as much story as possible, in as short amount of time as possible. I see it done all the time now, and it usually doesn't work for me. I like to sink into a story. I like thee to be some room for scenes to play out and characters to have their moments. Too many shows these days burn through scenes without allowing them to breathe, and it takes away from the whole story.

902

(686 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

But no matter how happy a person is or how much they enjoy life, it is unreasonable to expect them to not have some issues. Everyone has issues. Man of Steel was about Clark learning to embrace his differences and his humanity at the same time. It was freeing, it was inspiring, it was well thought out. So maybe you don't like that version... But it isn't whiny or grimdark. It is just a more "realistic" way to approach the character.

I can't relate to someone who is simply meant to be better than me. I can relate to someone who overcomes. To me, that is what is inspiring. Clark isn't above silly human problems or emotions, and no amount of superpowers will solve every problem. I think he needs to be balanced, which is what he was in the movie.

I'm just tired of people jumping on the back of any writer who dares to consider honest emotional reactions to situations. The term "grimdark" is very dismissive most of the time, in my experience. It is another way to avoid discussing character development or motivation. That's not to say that you have to love Superman or whatever, but if someone wants to discuss the character, they should have an actual opinion to discuss.

The funny thing is, everyone used to call Smallville too "emo" and whiny.

903

(686 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

I do not intend this to be a response to ireactions' post in any way, really. It's just that his use of the word "grimdark" reminded me of something that has been on my mind for a while now.

One of the issues that people seem to have with the DC movies is the idea that they're too "emo" or "whiny" or, yes, "grimdark". I see these comments coming not only from casual movie watchers, but also from other writers that I know. I find the simplification to be really disappointing. I'm posting about this here and not the DC threat because it doesn't just apply to the DC movies. It's something that I'm seeing a lot of across the board. People have commented on my dystopian book by saying that it's too depressing and not hopeful enough. I don't mind that criticism, since it's what they feel, but I'm left wondering how hopeful book one of a six-book dystopian series should really look.

For me, it's not a matter of whether a story is happy or sad, or inspiring or depressing. It's a matter of how well it's told and how much thought and effort is put into the world building. For the DC movies, I found the criticism baffling, because Man of Steel was the first time that I ever really connected to the character on the big screen. He wasn't the icon, he was flesh an blood. To me, that's what a live action version of these stories should be. We have comic books and cartoons for the silly action. Live action should be meant to bring these characters to life, and life isn't always happy.

Man of Steel, to me, was inspiring and hopeful. It was the story of someone overcoming their paralyzing fear and the struggle between who he is and where he comes from. It's a very human, relatable story. But because they didn't push the colors enough and Superman didn't stand with his hands on his hips enough, people decided that it's grim and depressing.

Have we moved past an age where people will actually look at the story and think about it? In this age of Twitter, are writers supposed to just spell everything out as bluntly as possible and make it as sparklie as possible, so they can draw as much attention as they can get?

The recent Gilmore Girls revival is an example of how this works. Some of the characters (Rory in particular) have the mental capacity of children. Selfish, needy, arrogant... very little redeeming qualities about them, really. But it's brightly colored and presented with snappy dialogue, so people praise the revival (many of these problems also existed in the original series). I've only been able to get through two of the four revival episodes so far, because I can't stomach too much of it at a time.

Maybe Veronica Mars did it right. The show was a dark, complex noir story, but it was presented with enough pretty faces and snappy dialogue that you almost forget about the rape, possible incest (at one point), mass murder, etc. The story didn't really suffer by making it light and fun. So is that the way to do things properly?


All I know is that when I write, I have to think about who my characters are and what they've been through. I have to think about what is happening to them. Sometimes that allows for jokes and fun, but in a story like Freedom/Hate or Strange Fall, there isn't a lot of room for slapstick comedy. If you actually take the character of Superman and break him down the way that you should break down any flesh and blood character, Man of Steel is closer to what you'd expect to see than Superman: The Movie.

I don't want to turn this into a Marvel vs DC discussion. I just think that the rise of intolerance toward character depth and emotion an hardship is disappointing to me. I don't see things as "grimdark", the way other people seem to. If a story is sad or dark in an honest way, I still enjoy it. If it makes me feel something, that's a mission accomplished. Why is that a bad thing these days? Why should everything be bright colors and comedy? Why are characters dismissed as whiny just because they're not doing tap dance routines?

904

(31 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

I'd like to see it renewed. It is nowhere near Kripke's best work. It isn't as refined as his Supernatural stuff, and it would be hard to take Timeless too seriously. However, the show is fun to binge watch once I have a few episodes saved up. Definitely better than Legends of Tomorrow.

Anyone remember Journeyman? I will have to see if that one is available anywhere.

905

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

That's what I like about the way DC did this past year. The Lego movie is 100% for kids, but it frees up the other movies to be more for adults. They didn't need to dumb down or clean up BvS or Suicide Squad, yet they still made profits on the same level as Disney/Marvel.

I disagree about Harley. I think she is a very complex character, so I can see her anchoring a movie. But keep in mind, Gotham City Sirens is really another ensemble.

As for Doctor Strange, I think it was about the same level as Suicide Squad, in terms of what level the character is in the grand scheme of things. It's a B-level Marvel movie, like Suicide Squad is B-level DC. I would put Ant Man in there too. Thor should be A-level, but he really isn't. I don't expect much from his movie.

906

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Okay, since the dust has been kicked up online again, I have to get back into this...

I keep seeing articles about how the DC slate needs to be scrapped and how it's such a failure. They say that even if they made money, they're being ripped to shreds by critics (which is a bit like a politician being ripped by pundits... it doesn't actually matter in the end).

Math time!!!


Suicide Squad had a budget of $175 million.
Domestic earnings: $325,100,054   
Foreign earnings: $420,500,000
Total: $745,600,054


Doctor Strange had a budget of $165 million.
Domestic earnings: $232,532,923
Foreign earnings:  $443,382,684
Total: $675,915,607   

Now, the fun thing to point out about the foreign earnings is that Suicide Squad was not released in one of the biggest world markets, China. Therefore, the Chinese earnings for Suicide Squad are $0. Meanwhile, Chinese earnings for Doctor Strange are $109,194,913. So if we want to test "success", rather than "earnings", as these articles claim to be doing, we should probably lose $100 million from the Doctor Strange numbers then, right?

Yes, Civil War made more money than BvS. As we've discussed before, this is largely due to the fact that the DC movies aren't aiming for younger audiences, so families aren't likely to go see them over and over again. However, DC did make up for this by releasing a movie which was specifically targeted at children, the LEGO Batman movie. No articles written about the great DC/Marvel war (which I still say isn't a thing) have acknowledged the fact that Warner's plan isn't entirely dependent on the DCEU movies. Batman, the brand, has appeared in three movies within the past 12 months. Each of those has been successful in reaching their desired target. I'm not aware of any Marvel projects that are doing this same thing, making hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office, but feel free to mention any that I don't know about.

So let's review overall profits (subtracting budgets):

Marvel/Disney (Civil War + Doctor Strange) - $1,414,220,102

DC/Warner (BvS, SS, Lego Batman) - $1,341,335,084*


*The LEGO Batman movie is still in theaters and earning money


The difference in profits (not counting any licensing deals or marketing budgets, because Hollyood accounting is impossible to navigate): $72, 885, 018


In conclusion... It's China's fault. smile

907

(686 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

The Oscars are a sham anyway. Most of the people who won awards aren't really the best, or even the most outstanding of the year. For all we know, La La Land really won but they decided to change it at the last minute for whatever reason. I have no faith in, nor respect for the award. I wouldn't want one if you paid me to take it.


Buy I do agree that it wasn't Beatty's fault. He shouldn't get the blame.

Two Arrow/Oliver references and one ARGUS/Lyla reference in this week's Flash.

I guess we can be happy. smile

909

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Now they're saying that Wonder Woman is good, but Justice League is a mess.

I'm going to go ahead and believe that all of these super secret insider reports are BS.

It's possible. You never know what happens behind the scenes.

I think that Lyla could also be used more. ARGUS should be all over the place, so it would make sense for her to show up more on The Flash, and it wouldn't require any special contracts since she's not a regular.

I agree. Felicity should definitely be showing up on The Flash way more than she does. Caitlin is the only medical doctor that this superhero team has, right? You'd think that would be more of a thing too. Like Claire on the Netflix Marvel shows. Cisco and Barry feel connected to me, like Oliver and Diggle. I'm not sure that Cisco would be a good choice for floating from show to show... Then again, he could help Curtis figure out the t-spheres.

Don't know. The LoT Christmas thing was really weird. They had to know the schedule up to the crossover at least, right? So there's no way this ever looked like good timing. Maybe they thought it would play well because it's a time travel show, but it really didn't.

The new contracts that people like Katie Cassidy and Wentworth Miller signed appear to be pretty useless. They're not being used across the different shows. They're not kept available when the shows do want to use them (Katie was off working on a movie and had to work out a schedule for her to appear). So I really don't even know what those contracts mean. Were they purely symbolic?

It would be interesting to have Sara around on Arrow, while they're working up to making Dinah the new Black Canary. How would Sara feel about that? Of course, if the LoT writers were the ones scripting it, she'd probably be banging Dinah within a day. I really hate what they've done to the character on that show. They took a legitimately cool female superhero and turned her into a failed James Bond wannabe. They stripped her of what made her interesting and complex. I hate when spin-offs destroy the character that they're spinning off. What's the point?

913

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Exactly!

It was justified too. Not only was Killer Croc really cool, but Harley's look became iconic before the movie even came out.

914

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Yeah! So ha!

Of course, the Oscars are a completely meaningless sham and I wouldn't want one of those things in my house if you paid me (is it really an honor to get the same award that they give to child rapists?)... But ha anyway.

915

(6 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

That's a shame. I grew up watching his show. sad

916

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

If anyone really wants to come to appreciate the DCEU, check out The Death of Superman Lives. It's available from Showtime now.

Wow. So many people making so many wrong decisions, and taking it completely seriously. Nothing about the new DC movies is anywhere near as wrong as this. Their whole approach to Clark/Superman was backwards and wrong, and it informed their whole project.

917

(15 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

It probably isn't possible, so I'm just putting this out there for the heck of it, but something like Chaos on the Bridge would be cool. It was a very well made documentary, complete with illustrations.

918

(15 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

I would love to see this happen. Even a panel at a festival would be great.

919

(267 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

The impression that I've always gotten is that People is still part of the Supernatural family. A couple of years ago, he spoke about the chances of developing a spin-off and he was involved with that. And they make subtle references to him on the show. So I think he is still part of the Supernatural family, but I doubt that he plays a super active role. I think of the show as being like a comic book. Head writers come in and tell their story arc, and then hand it over. It is an interesting way to handle it.

It would be interesting if Kripke ever decided that he had another story to tell in the Supernatural world.

920

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Good news all around. I'm really excited to see Nightwing on the big screen. DC continues to make me happy with these movies.

I said the same thing. The gorilla story seems big enough for a crossover and would be a natural fit.

Maybe they needed Cisco to open the breach because they also needed to travel to Canafrica (y'know... Africa, but filmed in Canada)? Given how small Kara's breach opening device was, I don't even get why Jessie and Wally can't hop between worlds to date. It is a faster trip than driving across town. But my guess is that Wally will end up on Earth 2. We probably don't need even more regular speedsters on the show (though I prefer Jessie to Wally)

My question is, why not send Iris to Earth 2 for a while? Speedsters can't travel between worlds, right? So Savitar probably couldn't get to her.

922

(686 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Man, that Obama would pardon anyone, wouldn't he? smile

I don't know that "realism" is the right word for it, but I get what people want. They want laws of reality within fiction. They want something that they can hold onto and relate to while all of the really crazy stuff happens. Once that "reality" is broken, the story falls apart, because it was a violation of the trust between writers and audience. So with Sliders, the "reality" is that Earth Prime is essentially our Earth and we are what they want to get back to. Not because we're super normal and make total sense, but because the real world has to be the jumping-off point for such fantastical storytelling. We can only judge other worlds based on what we have here, so the Sliders represent us.

Over the years, our representatives in that weird world were taken away and replaced by people who came from worlds that aren't "ours" and are therefore harder to relate to. Add to that the fact that the writers took away the jumping-off point of Earth Prime essentially being our world, and the audience had very little to hold onto anymore. Even Rembrandt was no longer from "our" Earth.

Star Trek Voyager asked us to believe in a world where being lost decades from home was scary and isolating, and the crew had to band together with former enemies in order to survive this trip... but they violated the trust of the audience by not following through on the promise of the series. Voyager was always perfectly neat and clean. The former enemies blended seamlessly into the crew. There was no real struggle to repair damage to the ship or keep food on the table. Being decades from home felt an awful lot like the Enterprise being in Federation space.


Then again, we have Fringe where reality was constantly altered and their world was always changing, yet we believed in it because the core relationships shined through... even when those relationships were wiped from history.

I know I have a reputation for not liking fun shows or just silly entertainment, but I actually do. I like comedies, like Man in the High Castle, The Walking Dead, and Dexter, as well as the more serious shows...

smile

But seriously, I do like some goofy shows. I just think that I have to feel some amount of care when I'm watching it. To me, when I watched Agents of SHIELD for the 3.4 (or whatever) seasons, I just saw people getting a paycheck. I saw billboards for whatever movie was coming out, or whichever phase of the MCU plan was about to kick in. They never created a world that I could believe in. And that might just be me, but it is what it is. The same is true with Supergirl, which I honestly don't even think they try with. And it's the same with LoT, except Legends has some chemistry between some of the actors which can make it fun at times, despite the horrible, lazy writing.

I do have a place in my life for shows that I just watch because they're silly fun. I actually really like Fuller House, which a lot of people probably wouldn't expect, but there you go.

I don't know if Punisher or the second season of Daredevil could toward the original contract for the Netflix shows.

When it comes to the Marvel shows on Netflix, I don't think that it's necessarily the number of episodes that is the problem. Daredevil hasn't bored me at all. I think Jessica Jones could have been a better series with four or five episodes that were just her doing her job and showing us that she is a detective. Veronica Mars had this format right. They had major, heavy arcs, but each episode usually had its own smaller mystery as well.

Jessica Jones would probably be better off having mostly arc episodes, but with a few detective stories mixed in so that they didn't just repeat themselves (over and over and over), and so they could establish the abilities of the character (as a detective).


Luke Cage, nothing could help. It was like watching paint dry on cold molasses that had grass growing through it. Horrible storytelling. The slow jazz feel did nothing to help their lack of plot. Their arc was all over the place (three primary villains who could have been stopped by Luke in about five minutes). It was just a mess.


Agents of SHIELD, I have never been able to connect with. The characters have always struck me as characters, or actors playing characters. They've never had any chemistry or personality, or anything natural about them. The way they talk is unnatural, the way they are directed through the episodes is unnatural. It's just always been a totally hollow series for me. Even when they had a chance to do something interesting, having Fitz's brain damaged, they didn't even find a clever way to fix it or present the struggle. It was totally disingenuous (much like Felicity being shot on Arrow, during that season that we shall never talk about again).
I just don't get the sense that anyone making the show has ever actually cared about it, or taken it seriously. It's always been paint-by-numbers, visually speaking. And most of the time, you could probably switch around character names in the script and you'd never know it from the dialogue. So few of the characters have unique voices, outside of their basic character descriptions.

On The Flash, which is an absurd show, the actors seem to take their work seriously and there is real chemistry between cast members. The effort that is put into creating the visual style of the show is evident. The show isn't always brilliantly written, but there is always something genuine about each episode.

Likewise with Arrow, when it's done well, there is legitimate chemistry between the actors. There is legitimate effort put into the look and feel of the show.

But I will give you Legends of Tomorrow and Supergirl. They are similar to Agents of SHIELD in a lot of ways. smile

I haven't watched the show in months. I started this season watching, but eventually forgot to watch and didn't care. Then I went and watched an episode and it just seemed stupid, so I never went back. I never got past the Ghost Rider story.

927

(3,520 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Oh, I'm expecting to see a wave of those plotlines as the TV season winds down. Then a bunch of pilots next year. Then a bunch of movies which will flip because nobody cares about Hollywood politics.

928

(267 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

I have a theory that Adam isn't in the cage. In my head, there is a story where the loss of Sam and Adam was eating away at Dean, causing Castiel to attempt to pull Sam out (only getting his body). Castiel's failure only drove Dean into more of a depression, so Castiel did some creative editing and made Dean forget Adam the same way he made Lisa forget Dean. This is why Dean only remembers Adam when he is dead (Appointment in Samarra) and neither Sam nor Dean seem to have any memory of Adam in "Fan Fiction").

Given the state of Sam's soul after a few (Earth) months in Hell, I'm not sure that there would be anything left of Adam to save at this point. However, if he died before he and Sam entered the cage (the way Jimmy died when Castiel was blown up), Adam might not be in the cage at all. Of course, Death made Dean choose between brothers. This would seem to indicate that Adam is down there.

But it's my imaginary story inside my head, so I get to decide that Death was just forcing Dean to make a choice to mess with him (or that Death didn't actually know that Adam wasn't in there, because he hadn't been to the cage since everyone was sent back there).

929

(267 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

The Colt is nothing compared to Adam! They have a brother in Lucifer's cage and they didn't even mention him when they got Lucifer out!

Between the demon knife and the angel blades, the Colt's ability to kill things hadn't really been missed much.

930

(267 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

I always assumed the Lucifer or one of his demons grabbed it. It just made sense, so it was never an issue for me. I assumed that it was at the bottom of an ocean somewhere.

The fact that Crowley grabbed it does make sense. It would make for great leverage in Hell.

Maybe they realized how much this was going to piss people off, so they spoiled it in the hopes of letting people get over it before the episode aired.

932

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

I'm not saying that it would be ideal. Obviously, that isn't the plan. But I think it could be done, and the resulting movies could be solid. We have the icons for the introduction at least, so by the time it becomes an issue, we have other established members. Plus, it seems like Justice League is being used as a way to introduce the new characters before spinning them off anyway. It is the launching pad, so it makes sense to have characters come and go from the JL movies.

Or recast him. Either way wouldn't be the best option, but either one could work well enough. The MCU is full of characters that most people never heard of before the movies, and they still manage to make money despite their horrible writing.

I had to add a jab.

933

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Batman isn't villainous. He and Superman are both being manipulated into destroying each other. The way Lex manipulates people in the movie, while coming across as this annoying millennial, is actually pretty well done.

Batman is also being thrown off by the visions that he is seeing.

934

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

It has nothing to do with the studio. If we believe the rumors about him leaving, we probably have to believe the rumors about why. A movie didn't do as well as he had hoped, and he is in a funk about it. That has nothing to do with the studio or the DCEU, it has to do with Ben Affleck. Unfortunately, he can afford to break contracts and turn down work. I'm not entirely sure that anyone in the MCU has that ability on that level, aside from maybe Samuel L Jackson (though Chris Pratt is getting there). Even RDJ's comeback and newer success is very closely tied to Iron Man.

Maybe it's because I've spent most of my life reading as much about what goes into making a movie as I have spent time actually watching movies, but I'm firmly in the "sh*t happens" camp. No matter what business you're in, things happen. People come and go. This is why they invented the saying "the show must go on".

How they handle it will be what matters. If they choose to find a new actor, they need a good one. But they don't even really have to. There is enough story to survive with Batman off camera. He isn't the glue that holds it all together. He is a character who has served a purpose in some of the stories. The DCEU doesn't fall apart without him. He wasn't in Man of Steel and that was a great movie. They won't edit him out of Justice League (probably...) so by the time this becomes an issue, Superman will be back, Wonder Woman will be well established, the team will be put together, and the Aquaman movie probably won't need him anyway.

Man of Steel 2 doesn't need him either.
Gotham City Sirens would actually be a good place to introduce other Bat-family members, so that could work too.

I'm not saying that he hasn't served a purpose, but he isn't the sun around which the whole thing revolves.

935

(267 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Let's see... My best guesses... God, Amara, archangels (which I will count Lucifer in with), Death... I'm not sure what the last one would be.

936

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

I would disagree with that view of BvS (even if we are just discussing the theatrical cut). But we've discussed that a bunch already, so I won't go into it. smile

You really do need to watch the Ultimate Edition.

937

(267 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

I guess Crowley grabbed it. smile

938

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

It's not really the start at this point, is it?

I guess I just see it differently. It isn't unprofessional, because it has always been a part of the profession. It sucks when it happens. I'm not saying that I like it at all. But it happens. I know that it is Ben Affleck on the screen. I am never convinced that he is actually Batman. So while he may do that job well, I know that others have played that same role well in the past. I would say "oh well, that sucks" and then go on watching the movies, the same way I would if they recast the lead in a Broadway show. I like Angela Lansbury in Sweeney Todd, but Helena Bonham Carter was also good, in a different way.

But then, I watch movies differently than most people. And of course, this is all still hypothetical. There is no evidence that Affleck actually wants out, any more than there is evidence that massive reshoots completely changed Suicide Squad. And if they do recast, they may end up with someone I hate. I have no interest in watching Leonardo DiCaprio or Matt Damon in the role.


And screw Norton! I want Eric Bana back as the Hulk!

I think that this is like Smallville's "Subterranean". We just have to forget that it happened, never watch the episode again, and move on.

940

(267 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Didn't Dean get knocked out when he tried to use the Colt on Lucifer, and it just disappeared after that? I haven't seen that episode in a long while.

I am curious to see how this plays out. Is Mary playing the MoL, or is she really working for them? They made a point of her reading John's journal, so she should have a firm grasp of what the Colt means.

941

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

And you're free to do that. But the loss of JRD didn't kill Sliders. It was the entire production that killed Sliders. That failing production is what resulted in JRD leaving, it wasn't boredom or whatever. Many franchises have lost their lead and carried on just fine.

If you're looking for an out, you should take whatever you can get. I have liked the movies thus far, so I'm not declaring the franchise dead until the product itself calls for it.

The Thor movies have suffered the loss of directors and actors. That branch of the franchise has actually been a pretty big mess. But the overall franchise continues in nonetheless.


Also, Affleck would be leaving after two major films, and one (possibly two) smaller roles in other films.


And Matt Reeves was never signed as director. We didn't lose him.

Thea was as a conference of some sort, for a couple of weeks, because Willa Holland was only contracted for 13 or 14 episodes this season. It was oddly refreshing to have her in this episode. She was the only one who wasn't acting like a pod person.

Everyone thinks it's weird that Felicity wasn't more vocally anti-gun, because she was paralyzed by guns in season 4. I have two replies to this...

1. There was no season 4. It never happened.

2. Being shot doesn't automatically make someone anti-gun. Anyone on that team who is anti-gun is a hypocrite.

943

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

That is... an exaggeration.

944

(1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)

Rumor has it that WB is looking at Mel Gibson to direct Suicide Squad 2. This could be interesting. He is a great director. I guess he won't be working with RDJ on an Iron Man movie if this happens!

I watched Spectre of the Gun.

Sigh.

First, I want to say what was wrong with the episode. To begin with, this event was way overplayed by the writers. Shootings like this happen just about once a week in Star City. Often, they happen in the Mayor's office. Usually, the sitting Mayor dies. Having a madman kill seven people is actually not that big of an event for this city, so the heightened emotions and candlelight vigil were all very disingenuous. The emotional beats of the story were false. The character arguments were unnatural.

To have a team of people who all (aside from one or two) are very familiar with guns keep referring to the rifle as an "AR-15 assault rifle" is BS. I know a lot of gun people. None of them use the term "assault rifle" (unless they're joking around) because it is not a real term. It's a slogan, created to make the scary looking black guns sound even more scary. People think that "AR" means "assault rifle" or "automatic rifle", but this isn't true. And yes, the AR-15 is incredibly popular, because it's a great gun. However, it is not traditionally "military style". A military style rifle would be fully automatic. Most AR-15s out there are not... and I say "most" because they can be converted, but it's not a simple process and there aren't nearly as many of them out there as you'd think by watching TV shows. It's not realistic for the one used in this episode to be an automatic. In fact, I can't think of a quick example of a mass shooting occurring in the US with an automatic weapon since the Los Angeles shootout of 1997. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.

A lot of this language and the visual of an automatic weapon is a dishonest representation of the debate that we're having in this country. The process of legally owning a fully automatic weapon is quite rigorous and not many people do it. These guns look great on TV, firing never-ending rounds of ammo, but the fact is, they don't really factor into this issue in any meaningful way.

Then we have Rene's backstory. He is the main pro-gun person in this episode and uses guns all the time (illegally). He even manages to strike an emotional chord with Curtis by saying that he'd have been able to save his wife if he'd had his gun. But the writers discredit that character and his point of view by showing us that he was lying. He had a gun. He killed the bad guy. Then it's implied (though not shown) that a magic bullet (not the blender type) fired from the bad guy's gun as he hit the ground, killing Rene's wife. She'd have lived if he hadn't had the gun and killed the bad guy!?! The scene was poorly filmed and edited. In fact, it seemed like it was set up for him to open the safe and find the gun gone, or maybe have him not get in the safe at all. It seemed like the whole climax of that scene was reworked in some way, because it doesn't flow right.


So, a lot of the language and a lot of the visuals used in this story make it a half-hearted, kinda silly, "very special" episode. It's simply not presented well.


That said, I do think that they probably tried to do it right. They made points about the uselessness of a registry that you don't normally see on TV. Kudos for that. I just think that they didn't really have a grasp of the other side of the debate. Maybe they should have consulted with someone who knew guns a bit more and knew this debate a bit more. They didn't know how to write the side that they don't agree with, so while their pro-gun characters hit a brick wall and don't know what to say next, everyone at home is just screaming at the TV.

They tried to do it right. I just don't think they did. And I don't think this show was a good fit for this issue, because it was really silly for them to seem so torn up about this shooting. Why doesn't that office have bulletproof glass by now? And why was their a warning before the episode? It was absurd.

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I agree that it's a great way to renegotiate his contract. Even when it comes to the Justice League, Batman isn't always a huge player unless he has to be. It's entirely possible for Affleck to make a killing on relatively little work over the next few years, if that's what he wants.

Would it be a disaster if Affleck left entirely?

I've stopped trying to figure such things out. I thought it was a mistake the get a British Superman (which is like hiring an American Doctor, or Bond), but Cavill's performance was outstanding. I thought it was a mistake to hire Affleck in the first place, and freaked the hell out when my brother let me know about that. Diane Lane as Martha Kent?! Are you serious?! Kevin Costner... actually, that one was always pretty awesome.

Then again, I'm not as big a fan of this Joker as a lot of people. I'm fine with his role being smaller than people expected in Suicide Squad.

For all the defending of the DC movies that I do, people often forget that I've actually been pretty vocally opposed to some of these decisions in the past, and then I had to eat my words because Cavill and Batffleck both worked out pretty well. So would it be a disaster if Affleck left? Would it ruin everything?

I f---ing hated when they swapped out actresses playing Rachel Dawes in Nolan's movies. I still don't like it, really. That said, I get that sometimes, recasting happens. It's always happened, since before film or television existed. So while it my be a bummer and I may not like the idea of a recast, I can't say that it will ruin everything. The Dark Knight was a truly great film, despite having an actress that I personally don't care for very much.

There's a good chance that it will be horrible and ruin everything, but there's also a good chance that we will forget that it happened by the time we reach the halfway point in whatever movie this happens in. This isn't Iron Man. Ben Affleck doesn't define Batman. He just plays the part well.

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Don't we kinda know that these characters are safe, even in the present? I think that if it's done properly, the story can be compellin. The hook can't be "He might die!", it should be "How does he survive this?!"

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James Bond.

I don't think I will have any sort of emotional response. I just think that these episodes are always boring, preachy and half-assed because the writers always think that they're changing the world or something. They're usually not worth watching. For example, Smallville's illegal immigration episode. ZzzZzZzZzZz

So do I just skip this week's Arrow? We all know that it will be a preachy mess, written by people who probably think that guns are super scary. I highly doubt that the end of the episode will see Curtis coming around to Rene's point of view on guns, so if there is an arc to the story it will probably be Rene realizing that he doesn't need guns to feel like a big man.

The producers seem to think that preachy current event episodes went out in the 90's. I would argue that they don't watch enough TV. A lot of us are really tired of being preached at by TV writers who have no real grasp of the other side.

I realize that I write stuff that is pretty biased myself. But I don't package it as a deep and meaningful exploration and debate of the subjects at hand. It is a pretty extreme "what if" scenario in my books.

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He probably doesn't want out. If he does, it could have something to do with his family or the physical demands of the role (most people playing superheroes are taking steroids these days. I know Cavill refused).

Anyway, it's fun to come up with story ideas either way.

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The Robin story kinda occupies the negative space in these movies. The events happened and they're rippling out, and the events that we're seeing are happening around those stories, but the Robin story isn't the story that we're seeing, so it isn't being addressed. I don't know if they're waiting to tell some larger version of that story, or if it is intended to stay in that negative space.

Of course, there's always the rumor that the Joker we're seeing is actually Jason Todd. I don't really buy that, but it would be a spin on an idea that was used in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.


It's hard to say for sure which Robin it is, just by looking at the suit. Warner Bros. did confirm that it was Jason's suit, by labeling it as such on one of their tour websites. This could be changed, of course, but it probably won't be. So I think we're supposed to use the information that we have from the comic books and extrapolate what that suit means.

The Harley element is interesting. The way she was written in the Suicide Squad movie gave her so many layers to play with. She wants a normal life, but she wants a normal life with the Joker. Does that mean that she is simply tolerating his craziness because she loved him? She gave El Diablo hell for killing his family, which potentially hints at her feeling some amount of guilt over killing a "kid" herself, or being a party to it at least. I think they really got her character right in that movie. I was worried that they would just make her hot and crazy, but they managed to hold onto the humanity that has always been a part of Harley.

She did kill someone else in the extended cut, in order to win over the Joker. So Jason wouldn't have been her only murder.



Story idea:

Assuming that they can get Affleck to play the lead in the Batman movie, what if they did a story where Batman responds to a call at Arkham Asylum and finds that the prisoners are going insane... While fighting to get them all put back in their cages, Batman finds himself in an abandoned wing of the asylum and is attacked by the Spectre, who has come to make Batman pay for his crimes.

So, you have Batman in the Asylum, battling his enemies, but also battling his worst moments as Batman, which include falling out with Dick, getting Jason killed and getting Barbara injured. The story would be an insane frenzy, somewhere between Suicide Squad and A Christmas Carol. In the end, we could have Dick show up as Nightwing and pull Bruce back from the edge.

People would hate it. Spectre isn't really a villain, so the movie wouldn't have the same engine as most comic book movies. It would be about Batman's psyche and coming to grips with what he's been through while wearing that costume. A trial, of sorts Is he Bruce or is he Batman? Is he a murderer for bringing Jason into this? Does he deserve the justice that Spectre is threatening?

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I wouldn't say that Trump is no action. He took action. The court overstepped quite a bit by stopping his order. It will be overturned.

Will it get better? Yeah. Life will go on. All of the people who are panicking about Trump being a Nazi will get bored when there are no death camps. Riots will continue, because they will continue to be funded, but they've already lost whatever legitimacy they might have had by turning violent.

So we will be left with normal liberals and normal conservatives, debating relatively boring issues, the way we always so regardless of who is in office. Liberals probably won't be super happy a lot of the time, but that's life. Conservatives will probably have their own complaints too. Again, that's life.

Basically, there is nothing unusual happening here.

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I don't see it as a huge mystery. A lot of it is implied, for those who don't know the comics. But it is also put out there for those of us who do know the story. Jason died. Dick and Bruce are estranged. Tim is a question mark, I guess, but that's the only mystery that I see. If that story is given to us in bits and pieces instead of one big movie, I'm fine with that. Even if they never fully explain it in detail, that story influences what we see on screen. It's an interesting way to do it.

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It would feel pretty natural too, I think. They started this Batman's story out after Dick was gone and Jason was dead. We don't know about Tim or Damien, but we know that this Batman is in his later years. I think a transition to Nightwing would be pretty smooth. Maybe have Tim Drake as his sidekick?

Then they could negotiate a deal where Affleck appears, but isn't the lead. He can give background story for Dick.

Yeah, I would be interested in that too.

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Depends on your perspective. smile

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I'd actually really like to see a Nightwing movie. If the rumors are true about Affleck (and I'm not sure they are. There are always "mysterious sources" saying a lot of crap about these movies, and usually it's BS), I hope they don't just replace Affleck with someone else playing Bruce. They should negotiate a reduced role for him, like in Suicide Squad. That way they could have Dick, or even Terry come in and take over that position on the team. I think the Batman family is big enough that they don't just need to focus on Bruce all the time.

That said, I'd even be fine if they didn't go forward with the Batman movie, but kept Affleck on as Batman for the other movies. The Batman movie was always an add-on for this franchise, and Affleck always said that it wouldn't happen unless everything was lining up just right. So if we end up with no Batman movie, but Batman playing a role in the rest of the franchise somehow, that's fine with me.

Either way, if the rumors are true, I just don't want to see them throw another actor into the same role with no explanation. It's not necessary and we already have a ton of Batman movies anyway.



On another note, the Batman Lego Movie made about $90 million worldwide this past weekend. I think it's an interesting strategy for Warner Bros. Rather than making one franchise and hoping to appeal to all audiences with that one franchise, they've created a children's franchise (which will also undoubtedly make a zillion dollars in tie-in merchandise) and then the more adult franchise, with the BvS/Suicide Squad movies. We were talking before about how they'd cut off a chunk of the audience by not making BvS a movie that kids would love, and I guess this is the answer to that. Yeah, they're probably not going to see billion dollar earnings for each movie, but they will see a pretty steady stream of cash throughout the year.

Yeah, the Nate/Amaya thing made no sense at all. They forced them together in this episode, and then they forced them to have this sex subplot, while their teammates were on the chopping block. It was horribly conceived.

Also, Nata and Amaya don't really work together. Earlier this season Nate had some good chemistry with Sara. It was interesting and natural, and they're such opposites that it just might work. But the show is now insisting on forgetting that Sara is not a lesbian, she is supposed to be bisexual. Except they don't want her to flirt with or sleep with any dudes, because that would be too straight or something. It's really bugging me, because they've started playing her up as this sex-crazed rebellious hero figure while also cutting her potential love interests in half.

And yes, the colony thing was stupid. But then again, I'm still trying to figure out why Jax wouldn't just break a mop handle and stick it in the telescope. If I had a relic that was that ordinary to look at, but super powerful, I would have Gideon make a dozen copies, just to throw off the bad guys.

That could be interesting. Alternatively, they could just ship Wally off to Earth 2. smile


Switching over to Arrow for a sec. I'm not sure that this Dinah Drake thing is the best idea. They made a mess of things with Laurel, first in how they handled her development, then handing her role in the story over to Felicity, and then killing her. Killing her was a big mistake, which they should have known after Sara, but I guess they didn't learn.

So then they tease a comeback that never happens.

Then they come up with a really convoluted way of trying to bring back a Black Canary element (would Dinah be Black Canary, or a whole new Canary?). I don't hate the new character, but the situation is just awkward and weird. What will Sara think? Shouldn't she get to train the new Canary (maybe Sin?). And they already have a two Dinah characters on the show. Now a third.

Like I said, I don't hate new Dinah, but it is a strange road to go down.

I don't even have a story. I've just always been a writer. I remember writing a story and having my brother illustrate it when I was in kindergarten. smile

When I was a teenager, I tried to submit scripts and story ideas to Star Trek, but they were never purchased (Voyager would have been so much better if they had hired me!).

I've always wanted to write film and television, but it is such an impossible industry to break into. I finally realized that I can write a book and put my stories out there for people to see, and it won't take someone investing millions of dollars, and hundreds of crew members to get some version of that done... and it would be my vision, not someone else's! So I do books now, but I'm still interested in film and television. The timing has just never been right for that. If some of my books read like outlines for seasons of a TV series, now you know why.