I thought it was interesting how the Season 1 finale of QUANTUM LEAP 2.0 left it somewhat ambiguous whether or not Ben made it home. The Season 2 premiere takes it as a given that Ben didn't make it and plunges him into an increasingly insane military operation with one of the most stressful sequences I've ever seen on the show, and the Project QL team only appears in flashbacks for most of the episode.

The situation is messed up and strange, and the situation seems to mirror the original cancellation of QL1.0: Sam never made it home and neither did Ben, except where Sam's situation was an awkward afterthought on a season finale abruptly hammered into the frame of a series finale, QL2.0 is telling this story deliberately and willfullly. I wonder where it will go.

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When it comes to netbooks, I am a bit like a former cult member. I still feel a certain fondness for the idea of a netbook. I mean, wasn't it a great idea? To spend $200 USD on a 10.1 inch laptop that, while hardly a gaming machine, was suitable for banging out emails and social media posts and handling your online business. A travel laptop that you could drop out a window by mistake and replace without causing a global economic crisis. The idea was spectacular and compelling and enticing: a cramped but usable burner laptop. The junker car of mobile computers. Even today, I find myself open to buying a 10.1 inch laptop.

The reality was... not quite that. The main issue with netbooks is that because the profit margins were so low on these products, manufacturers cut a lot of corners making them. I had the Acer Aspire One, the Asus Transformer T100 TAM, the Asus Transformer T100 Chi and the Asus Transformer Mini T102. All were cheap and awful: the Acer Aspire One battery went dead in a year, the Asus T100 TAM was was so badly sealed that dust would get under the screen, the T100 Chi's trackpad would randomly go dead; the Mini T102 developed white spots on the monitor. The only netbook I ever had that was actually good was the HP DM1 with the AMD E-450 processor, 4GB of RAM, a 120GB SSD -- and this was indeed the well-built, reliable, low weight netbook I'd been looking for, but I gave it away to a friend who was going back to school.

I got the Asus Vivobook L210, an 11.6 inch laptop with an Intel Celeron processor and 4GB of RAM... and it was unusably slow. I got the HP Elitebook Folio G3 which used the low power Intel Core M and even with an SSD and 8GB of RAM, Windows 10 ran so slowly that web browsers were constantly freezing up. It became clear: most of my netbooks had been during the days of Windows 7. But Windows 7 gave way to Windows 10, and where Windows 7 ran well on Intel Atom processors, spinning hard drives and 2GB of RAM, Windows 10 really demanded a solid state drive and at minimum 8GB of RAM with at least an Intel i3.

Ultimately, the smartphone and tablet killed the netbook. No one wanted to buy these poorly made, underpowered computers when smartphones offered more responsive performance and tablets offered better multimedia playback at a lighter weight, even if they didn't have the versatility of physical keyboards.

I'm currently using the HP Elitebook 830 G5 with an i5 processor and 8GB of RAM and an SSD. It's thin and light enough... but despite being a good value laptop, it certainly wouldn't be cheap to replace like a netbook. I still long for the return of burner netbooks. It will never happen, the profit margin is too low.

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The reality is that people can be swayed and tricked when they are made to feel special and important, whether that's by investing in a technology that was overhyped in the press after it was past its peak or by political or cultural affiliation. They can be scammed by endorsements from celebrities like Matt Damon. They can be swayed by the fear of missing out on a technology that they don't actually understand.

I myself was particularly obsessed with netbooks.

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TemporalFlux wrote:

Really, the only reason anything has value is because enough people believe it has value.  It’s all based on confidence.

Gold has value because it’s rare, it’s pretty and it’s physical - things that made it a symbol of power.  In the modern age, it also has usefulness in the physical ability to make technology work.

Paper money (like the US Dollar) had value initially because people had faith that the US government had enough gold (i.e. Fort Knox) to back up the dollar’s value.  In modern times, the dollar was unpegged from gold and took on a floating value.  But again, that value is backed by the full faith and credit of the US government (realistically based on perception of military might, industrial complex, alliances, etc).  Basically, the world believes the US is “good for it” (a belief that is eroding).

And now we have Bitcoin.  Can it have value?  Certainly - if enough people believe it does.  My concern is that I can’t see what’s backing it up.  All it seems to be is an exercise in how much electricity you can pump through a computer to do useless work.

I think people are more drawn to the idea of Bitcoin being a one world currency that governments can’t devalue through their action or inaction.  The worth of Bitcoin seems to be more as an aspirational philosophy; and that’s just not enough for me to believe in as a way to buy and sell goods and services.  I believe the value of Bitcoin is something as whimsical as the hippie movement (which largely faded from history and lost most of what faith it had).


Developments keep proving TF right on this. Cryptocurrency has proven to be useless, has no value backing it up, and it is also a massive scam.
https://slate.com/technology/2023/10/sb … cards.html

I look forward to catching up with Dr. Ben tomorrow!

This sounds fun. I hope you don't change the name. REWATCH PODCAST is quite stuck in the brain. I am severely behind on your podcasts on HEROES, so you shifting gears will let me catch up a bit. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on HEROES downright peculiar trajectory.

I too am excited for a second season of the QUANTUM LEAP revival.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

I'm not here to tell you what's right or wrong. Just my philosophy. You can choose to agree or disagree. For me, I'm a one-issue voter this term: Democracy vs. Fascism. Once we save the nation from going down the path of Germany in 1943 with the rethuglicans, we can discuss concessions. The reason why is because of the shift in voter demographics in 2024. Rethuglicans are dreading this shift, because this means that next year, far more people will be progressive voters, and they will never hold a majority ever again. So they are trying to do everything they can, while they can now to ensure their ideals are passed in any way shape and form they choose. That is why we can't let fascism take hold.

Not being American, I can't vote in 2024, but if I could, I'd be voting the same as you which is to say I'd be voting against Trump. Canada will have an election in 2025 and I'll be voting against the Canadian equivalent of Trump. That doesn't mean I put the person who has won my vote on a pedestal, of course. I'm just choosing my preferred opponent.

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Joe Biden is letting Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman go without consequences for murdering a Washington Post journalist. The US is too dependent on Saudi Arabia as a trading partner and oil producer and economic power to cut ties or enact any repercussions.

https://vox.com/world-politics/2023/10/ … ears-later

Fairly or unfairly, it would seem that consensus politics are simply not where we will see right and wrong handled as right and wrong. Instead, it's a matter of political and economic allegiances and a fear of crashing an oil-dependent US economy.

Sometimes, as a voter, there are no good options. If I were in a position to vote in the next US election, I would be voting against Trump by voting for Biden, but examples like this one are why Biden hardly epitomizes my values and why I don't feel good about it and why I don't believe that we should present Biden as a saint even though we all know Trump is a demonic hellspawn from the dawn of time. (Some people worship the hellspawn.)

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I don't like it, but fairly or unfairly, our political system (US and Canada) will often require that we accept losing battles to people whose values are antithetical to our own. We should never like it or be proud of it, but the unfortunate and painful reality is that politicians with values of justice and equality are going to need votes from people they and we may find abhorrent. I don't like saying that or admitting it, but sometimes, we have to stick to our values and sometimes, we have to concede a moral defeat for a numerical victory. At least in the twisted and awful game that is consensus politics in North America. As a voter, I find myself voting against parties rather than for parties.

But maybe QuinnSlidr will talk me out of this mode of thinking and explain to me why I am Wrong.

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I never really know what to make of all the statistics except they seem to mean whatever you want them to mean.
https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+a … mp;dpr=1.5

Polls at this stage aren't really meaningful or useful. In fact, given how off the polls were in 2026 and 2020, I don't know if they're ever meaningful or useful anymore.

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I wonder if it'll be the saturated, colour-popping version or the washed out, VHS looking version.

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The Sci-Fi Channel, I feel, didn't really support SLIDERS. They wanted to cancel it almost as soon as they'd acquired it; they bought the license but didn't bother to mandate keeping Tracy Torme or John Rhys-Davies and Sabrina Lloyd. I don't know why they bought it only to dismiss it, and neither do they; apparently, the regime that had bought the license from FOX/Universal left and a totally different team was handling the actual Season 4 that aired. Sci-Fi didn't care about building SLIDERS as a franchise, they just wanted to sweep half of SLIDERS' viewers to FIRST WAVE and WELCOME TO PARADOX. (Thank you, TF.)

Syfy constantly chronically underinvested in their shows and was always keen to cancel them instead of growing an audience at first; they brought over existing shows for the audience, but they never put in the work to sustain and increase that audience. Even with their own shows: they underfunded DARK MATTER and KRYPTON and cancelled both; they sabotaged STARGATE when its producers sought a different network after Syfy cancelled the last STARGATE series. Syfy is known as a network that cancels its shows before its budgets increase, a network that isn't worth the audience's time and interest because Syfy doesn't give their shows much time or interest. Syfy is mostly in the business of airing other studios' productions in the United States as an uninvested broadcaster, airing what it doesn't own and not developing programming to keep viewership.

There could have been a great science fiction TV channel, but the Sci-Fi Channel really never put in the time or effort to be that channel and Syfy was pretty much the same. However, in 2021, Syfy did do something unusual: when WYNONNA EARP's studio, IDW, had funding issues, Syfy made up the difference with an increased licensing fee to fund the fourth and final season.

Looking at their current slate, Syfy seems to only have five shows right now and all of them premiered in 2021 or later. They have not sustained their programming. Their brand identity is cancellation.

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Have you used AI much? Personally, I think it would be useless to you in terms of SLIDERS.

The main issue that the writers' guild had with studios and AI: studios wanted to have executives autogenerate scripts with AI and then hire writers for a few days' work to rewrite these scripts.

Personally, I think writers should absolutely use AI; it's just a matter of how they use it.

The main issue that the writers' guild had with studios and AI: studios wanted to have executives autogenerate scripts with AI and then hire writers for a few days' work to rewrite these scripts. Writers balked at being paid even less to polish machine output.

I can assure you that the AI-generated scripts from the studio would have been garbage. I've used AI to generate screenplays, and they are hackneyed, regurgitated non-emotion, plotting that is either simple-minded or cognitively deficient, or structurally repetitive with each scene being a variant on the previous. Ask an AI to do SLIDERS stories and it outputs Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo fighting aliens.

However, AI can be a good assistive tool. I might ask the Sydney chatbot how Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo can survive having a bazooka fired at the ceiling of their hotel room. But more relevantly: AI can help SLIDERS writers when they ask AI to generate ideas for alt-worlds that (a) reflect an exaggeration or a reversal of a common societal convention (b) are set in a world that operates at a present day level of technology without sci-fi advances and (c) provides a history for how the world arrived at this situation. AI can produce a few paragraphs for an alt-world concept -- and then a SLIDERS writer do a polish on the alt-world concept and then write a strong, human-produced script with that AI-generated alt history idea.

That's the sort of area where AI can truly help a writer speed up their process. AI is also effective at starting points for SLIDERS stories if you feed it what you want it to build its alt-history around: cryptocurrency; transgender identity; a world where blue-collar workers are the elites and white collar workers are peasants; a world where paper is considered a black market product of ecological criminality, etc..

AI is a writer's tool, but AI itself is not a writer. That said, I think AI tools would be wasted on Temporal Flux because Temporal Flux's world-building abilities need no help. Nigel Mitchell also doesn't need AI.

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I'm still not  clear on what the deal is. But they do have a deal and the WGA seems happy.
https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/wga-s … 235737090/

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Recently, I got a knock on my door and a nice person handed me my wallet. He said he'd found it at the grocery store and located my address from my driver's license.

I thanked him for his kindness and honesty, gave him the $40 in cash thawt was in my wallet, wished him a safe drive home, called the bank and cancelled every credit card number and debit card number in the wallet just in case he'd photographed the card details.

It's been a bit of a rough week. Replacement cards didn't arrive for a week. Some monthly bills could self-update to the new card number for payment, but some couldn't and I didn't have the replacement card in hand to provide the new numbers, so I had to send cheques or go to the bank.

My phone's tap to pay function immediately updated to the replacement number (which I could not see), so I had to ask friends to bring a credit card on outings to pay for parking because many parking machines don't accept tap to pay.

When paying off my credit card bill, I forgot to update the old card number and sent money for a non-existent bill while the actual bill went unpaid and forgotten until the card company brought it to my attention (and waived the overdue fine).

I still think it's important to carry one payment card even in an age of using a phone to pay because occasionally, I'll need to pay for something above the phone transaction limit. But I should have definitely not been carrying every bank and credit card in one wallet.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

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So I don't know enough about Star Wars lore, but Anakin seems to be Force Ghost Anakin in physical form.  So he's definitely post-Vader but different than Force ghosts we've seen before (in that he physically interacts with Ahsoka).  The World Between Worlds hasn't been fleshed out that much so it could be anything.  Anakin is both calm and angry, and he sorta takes Ahsoka to the past (or a vision of the past - it's vague).

What's interesting based on our last conversation is that we actually see young Ahsoka for a decent chunk of the episode.  So Clone Wars Ahsoka.  And here's where I missed Ashley Eckstein the most, but unless they had a child actor mime the dialogue and used Eckstein's voice, I don't know what they could've done.  The voice wasn't exactly right but I thought she did a good job.  This was essentially live action Clone Wars which was cool.

Well, beginning with THE LAST JEDI, Yoda was able to strike Luke with his walking stick and summon Force lightning. How consistent was CLONE WARS with Force ghosts?

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Democrat US Senator indicted for corruption, gold bars and cash seized. As Slider_Quinn21 says: if you're really a democrat, you support investigating and prosecuting crimes even if they're on your end of the political spectrum. And as we've unfortunately observed, on the other end of the spectrum are those who claim their standard bearer has violated no laws because laws don't apply to their standard bearer.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-indict … -1.6975326

I'm not sure if there is a positive, proactive, meaningful approach to politics like these. Ultimately, I don't vote in favour of any political party as much as I vote against the worst ones.

We had a friend who saw the hypocracy of Liberals and Democrats, who very correctly observed that there were hardly liberal or democratic and merely fighting with Conservatives and Repulicans to be in charge of the oil or mining company that masquerades as a country.

This friend went full on conservative because... I guess he sided with whatever politics fed his entitlement, his sense of grievance that being white and male didn't count for as much as it used to, that women and gender non-confirming and people of colour didn't seem as scared of him or as deferential to him as they used to be.

It's scary to me that someone can accurately recognize the performative and meaningless nature of politicians preaching social justice only to brutally assail the environment with pipelines and Indigenous peoples with cops... and then embrace Donald Trump.

I guess what it comes down to is that consensus politics is not the place to find genuine progressive values of civil rights, social justice and climate justice, much in the same way the grocery store is not the place to find worker rights.

Politics and grocery stores are evils that anyone who is genuinely progressive has to grudgingly and resentfully swallow when they vote for candidates who don't govern as they campaign and buy food from corporations that don't pay their cashiers and floor workers a living wage.

I guess we have to do it, but we don't have to like it and we can also make sure not to fall into cult thinking where the Liberal or Democratic or Conservative or Republican parties can do no wrong.

As Slider_Quinn21 says, we can't declare that someone's above being questioned just because they seem to be on 'our' side.

We shouldn't worship Andrew Yang or Jill Stein or Barack Obama or Justin Trudeau or Joe Biden any more than a sane person would worship Donald Trump or Allison Mack. We need to be hypercritical of our leaders and standard bearers past, present and potential regardless of what branding they use on their social media pages.

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I have two laptops. One is this 2017 gaming laptop, the Lenovo Legion Y520. It's designed like a stealth bomber and I think of it as a tank. Despite being made for video games, I mostly use the Legion Y520 for graphic design and office productivity. Then I have this 13 inch laptop, the HP Elitebook 830 G5. Despite being made for office productivity, I mostly use the Elitebook for social media, correspondence, message boards and all my personal tasks. If the Legion laptop is a tank, the Elitebook is a pocketknife.

The Elitebook keyboard developed a bizarre fault: the dash and right arrow key stopped working. It's at a repair shop. I asked them to, since they were replacing the keyboard, also replace the screen. They have had the Elitebook for seven days. They have the replacement keyboard. They are still waiting on the screen.

I know it's not an impairment; I have the gaming laptop. But... I don't enjoy doing personal stuff on this gaming machine. It's heavy and big. It's difficult moving it from room to room. It only lasts 55 - 60 minutes when unplugged. I'd set it up as a standing desktop computer workstation (plugged into a monitor and keyboard). I haven't been very active on the Bboard lately because I just... don't like this computer for leisure computing. It's a work machine.

I'm hoping to get my pocketknife back, but I suspect it'll be closer to the end of next week. I think maybe I chose the wrong repair shop. The Elitebook keyboard issues became apparent last week Saturday. My usual repair service is not open on weekends, so I took it to this electronics outlet store that does repair on the side but isn't exclusively focused on repair. Their prices are lower, but they're not as fast and I probably should have held out to Monday and taken it to the dedicated repair service. I'll try to remember this lesson.

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I suspect that THE X-FILES' longevity is not really about the diehard fans. THE X-FILES was not like SLIDERS or BUFFY or BABYLON 5 in that THE X-FILES did not sustain and survive and become successful as a niche show. THE X-FILES was a success across a wide demographic and a success for a general audience. I think it's because the science fiction and supernatural stories of THE X-FILES were presented in a highly conventional formula: the formula of police procedural.

Visually, THE X-FILES resembled a lot of dark cop shows and detective shows like NYPD BLUE or HOMICIDE. The scripting was underplayed and subtle as opposed to bombastic and stylized like BUFFY or BABYLON 5. It looked and sounded like other high profile, pseudorealistic cop shows of the era, but the stories were decidedly otherworldly and unnerving. And because THE X-FILES was able to camouflage its eccentricities in a conventional guise, the general audience was willing to accept it and follow it from a conventional(ish) beginning to some very strange places.

This allowed THE X-FILES to hit a wide range of demographics, and as a result, its viewers were just viewers in general, not a specific range of genre fans. I think this is probably why Chris Carter avoided ongoing continuity, perpetually reset the characters, never had too much advancement or development, and kept the show in a permanent holding pattern. Whatever his faults, he was trying to keep the show from alienating that general audience.

Slider_Quinn21 once remarked that his reaction to the continuity changes in the mythology were usually, "Okay! I guess this is happening now!" and admitting that he didn't remember the myth-arc well enough to be concerned by continuity errors. I suspect that's what Carter wanted most of the time, for better or for worse.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I wonder why Gal Gadot was in so many of these movies.  What was the post-Snyder, pre-Gunn plan?  With Batman cameoing in Aquaman 2, Batman cameoing in Batgirl, it seems like maybe Wonder Woman and Batman were going to be more involved?  But none of these movies are really building to anything. I thought the movie was pretty fun.  Although I could see why it bombed so bad.

Pre-James Gunn, the plan was for a third WONDER WOMAN film and for Michael Keaton's Batman to appear in most DCEU films (BATGIRL, AQUAMAN II) to link them all.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

It is bizarre to me that Aquaman 2 is coming out.  It comes out in like four months, and we still don't have a trailer (we're getting one in a couple of days).  It feels like such an anachronism.

I mean I get it.  The first Aquaman made a billion dollars, but it also came out FIVE YEARS AGO.  We've had nine movies in the DCEU come out since then.  We've had *two* Shazam movies come out since then (3 if you count Black Adam).  We got a Harley Quinn solo film (sorta) since then.  We got a Suicide Squad reboot since then.

How did Aquaman 2 not come out in 2020 or 2021?  I'm not saying Aquaman could've single-handedly saved the DCEU, but it's crazy that so much happened since it came out, and it's coming out as the last breath of this universe.

I know some people love the DCEU but what a fitting disaster.  Also, apparently, the movie is a disaster with tons of rewrites, both because the movie isn't great and also to try and fit it into whatever it is they're doing.  The filmed a scene with Michael Keaton for it and one with Ben Affleck but both are apparently getting cut because the continuity is such a mess.

I can't imagine I'll see this movie in theaters.  Is anyone else?


I'm not planning on seeing AQUAMAN II in theatres. I didn't even see the first one in theatres and I still haven't seen SHAZAM or SHAZAM II or THE SUICIDE SQUAD or PEACEMAKER. It was not a conscious decision, but thinking about it: I guess I didn't want to invest time or money into those projects. I don't mean to say that insultingly to anyone who cares about them; I'm just observing in myself that on some level, I must have considered the DCEU to be damaged and best abandoned. Why did I think that? Why did SHAZAM II bomb?

I can't answer why SHAZAM II bombed, but speaking for myself and in generalities:

I think I became aware that WB's plan, pre-Gunn, was to have Michael Keaton's Batman replace Ben Affleck's Batman and use Keaton's Batman as a supporting player, an informant and guide to the Flash, to Batgirl, to Wonder Woman, to Aquaman, but not feature Keaton's Batman in his own film and instead leave Batman-focused films to a different line of films. The plan was also to not have any more Superman sequels.

Demoting Batman and Superman made it seem like WB was just filling in a feature film scheduling gap with their DCEU movies. A DC Universe where Batman is a supporting character and Superman never shows up is the equivalent of being told that the Beatles have cancelled their concert appearance, but the high school cover band is very good, honest, and you should still buy the concert tickets for the full price to watch some tenth graders perform instead.

The high school band may well be the personification of musical excellence, but you would still balk at paying full Beatles ticket prices for them. Movie tickets for BIRDS OF PREY cost as much as movie tickets for a hypothetical MAN OF STEEL II. I went to see BIRDS OF PREY in theatres because I like women in action, but for the rest... I just didn't make it.

I think we also need to look at cost and competition. Movies are a very expensive proposition compared to streaming. A movie requires travel, transit, parking, and a 1.5 - 3 hour experience can cost the same as a month of Netflix in the comfort of your own home. This means theatres need to offer an experience that is deserving of the cost and effort and the big screen. An experience that competes with the ease and comfort of staying home and streaming a romcom.

At this point, the customer may only go to the theatre if the theatrical release is something they really want to see on a big screen. In fact, I'm at the point where I only go to the movie theatre if I want to see the film in IMAX.

Just speaking for myself, I clearly didn't think AQUAMAN, SHAZAM, SHAZAM II or THE SUICIDE SQUAD were worth driving, parking, arriving at a set time, and paying the cost of a month of Netflix to watch one movie. On some level, I must have intuited that WB also didn't think its DCEU productions were worth the effort either because WB had benched Batman and Superman.

This means I only saw THE FLASH (in IMAX) because I thought it was going to launch the new Gunn universe (which it didn't) and introduce the new Batman actor (which it didn't).

I didn't think any of the above consciously, but it seems to be what (de)motivated me. It would explain why I raced to see MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: DEAD RECKONING: PART 1 in IMAX but never got around to SHAZAM or SHAZAM II. Anecdotally, I wonder if that's why most people didn't get around to seeing SHAZAM II.

Please be reminded that anecdotes aren't hard evidence. SHAZAM II may have failed to make money for totally different reasons. And I haven't seen it, but given that the first one was well-liked and the same team returned for the second one and Slider_Quinn21 enjoyed it, I'm sure it's good.

I've always disliked the idea that timelines get wiped out. I don't like it when the audience reacts to a story with a sense of, as comic book writer Brian Michael Bendis put it, "You're breaking all the toys!" I feel that destroying timelines is like breaking all the toys and throwing out the sandbox. I would prefer that the 33rd century just exist as one of many possible futures for STAR TREK rather than destroy it. However, that may be a minority view.

The post-NEMESIS novels for TNG, DS9 and VOY had a very clean slate and did a lot of ongoing story arcs, only for PICARD to outright contradict them. The publishers elected to end their novel continuity in the CODA trilogy where the novel versions of the TNG, DS9 and VOY casts discover: all timelines are under attack by the Devidians, a race that feeds on energy from destroyed timelines. The heroes realize: the Devidians first began their campaign of destruction when the Borg altered history in FIRST CONTACT, splitting the timelines into disparate paths.

The novel timeline has been what the characters call the Splinter Timeline (media tie-ins), apart from the Prime Timeline (PICARD). The CODA trilogy ends with the novel characters sacrificing their own timeline so that the Prime Timeline and all the other timelines will be preserved while the Splinter Timeline is destroyed.

This is exactly the kind of story I dislike and disagree with. The CODA writers explained that they felt that saying the novel universe continues without ongoing publication would leave things unresolved, and they felt killing everyone off to save the Prime characters was conclusive and final. That may be, but all it did was, as Bendis would put it, "break the toys" and throw out the sandbox. I think that if a writer doesn't enjoy a a toy, they should just leave it alone rather than actively destroy it. Someone else might find a use for it someday.

I think this is just something to address in a throwaway line. "Mirror Georgiou? Again? I thought we were rid of her." "No, she's back from that possible future timeline." Or even a more involved exchange:

LUCSLY: "Hello. I'm Agent Lucsly from the Department of Temporal Investigations. I'm very familiar with you, 'Emperor.'"

MIRROR GEORIGOU: "You think you know me from reading my file, as though my data footprint is all I am and nothing compared to all you represent and all you claim to be. Department of Temporal Investigations. A portentous term bound in administrative pretense, as though time can be curtailed by a flowchart and a briefing. I have seen the end of your civilization, the conclusion of all you exist within, the downfall of all that keeps you upright. I know what is coming for you, what will consume you, what will -- "

LUCSLY: "Uh. No. Sorry. What you saw was one potential future. 38B. The Burn one, right? Yeah, that's not even the worst one. There are like four thousand apocalyptic timelines out of the 20 billion we track every day. But thanks for letting me know that it left you psychologically scarred and that it bolstered your existing narcisissm."

I really couldn't say. I assumed that it wouldn't be dramatically satisfying to have an actor reprise a role that isn't the most recent version of his character, but I'm not going to get to AHSOKA until I finish CLONE WARS and REBELS, so it'll take awhile for me. I hope you'll tell us all what's what in this thread when the episodes air.

My understanding is that their slate and budget was pretty full with STRANGE NEW WORLDS, DISCOVERY and LOWER DECKS, and given the streaming model having hit upper limits of subscriber growth, they were looking to let aging shows clear off their slate and just not replace them for awhile. And then the writers strike and actors strike happened, so the lack of plans remains a lack of plans.

My solution to the issue of DISCOVERY's 33rd century setting being a problem:

I think all it takes is one line from one Department of Temporal Investigations agent saying that Mirror Georgiou returned from a "potential future timeline" and that is done and dusted.

Also, given STRANGE NEW WORLDS' "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" explaining pretty much every discrepancy in THE ORIGINAL SERIES and between TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT/DSC, and SNW's loose attitude to TOS continuity, I don't think they're that fussed about it.

I don't know what STAR TREK is going to look like aside from a SECTION 31 movie and another season of STRANGE NEW WORLDS and one last season of DISCOVERY. I don't think Paramount-CBS knows either and won't so long as writers and actors are all on strike.

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Well, there is one thing that stands out to me: Dawson and Christensen are playing an Ahsoka and Anakin after the fall of the Empire. Ahsoka is an adult now; Anakin has been through the Dark Side and returned to the light. In a sense, these characters are meeting for the first time at this new stage of their lives. (I recall reading about Ahsoka fighting Darth Vader in REBELS but don't remember how old she was.)

I do think that it would be more consistent if Dawson and Christensen had voiced the characters in CLONE WARS. Except... Dawson, even in her younger years, had this assured authority in her voice that I don't really associate with the inexperienced, frantic Ahsoka I'm currently seeing in Season 1 of CLONE WARS. And Christensen is a good actor (not that you'd know it from the prequels), but he is an actor who acts with his whole body and his face, and Christensen's voice has a certain narrow monotone to it. I'm not sure he'd come off too well as a voice actor for an animated show.

Maybe Ashley Eckstein playing Ahsoka and Matt Lanter playing Anakin in the animated shows was really for the best.

The rumour was that Alex Kurtzman is leaving STAR TREK because CBS/Paramount are rebooting the franchise and upsetting Kurtzman, which this YouTuber presented as fact. This is nonsense: Paramount is in no position to discuss rebooting STAR TREK or have anyone write or perform in a reboot because all writers and performers are on strike.

I mean, I suppose it will be true eventually. Every franchise Kurtzman has ever worked on has continued after he left it, so yes, Kurtzman will someday leave. Every franchise gets at least soft-rebooted at some point, so yes, STAR TREK will someday be rebooted. I could say that Slider_Quinn21 is going to go to bed at some point in the next 24 - 48 hours, but stating the obvious and inevitable doesn't mean I have secret sources who have infiltrated Paramount or Slider_Quinn21's life.

The ridiculous "Doomcock" presented these inane ramblings in his usual fashion: against a greenscreened backdrop of what looks like a supervillain's headquarters, ranting with a voice-filter to deepen his tone, all while wearing a ridiculous costume with a metal mask that is obviously based on the Marvel Comics character Dr. Doom whom this person obviously reveres.

That's something I should point out, actually: Victor von Doom, Dr. Doom, is clearly "Doomcock"'s role model. And Dr. Doom is a narcissistic, bitter mind in a mutilated and wilted body. Doom's entire life is an endless quest for adulation and attention. Dr. Doom is a jealous, miserable soul: Reed Richards warned Doom that his experiments were unstable, Doom ignored Reed and Doom's experiment blew up in his face and scarred him. Doom's response was to declare that Richards must have tricked him, sabotaged him, been threatened by him. Then Doom devoted his life to inane supervillainy, propelled by sheer force of jealousy. Victor von Doom is the pettiest, vainest, smallest person in the Marvel Universe depending on a stupid outfit to look bigger than he is.

Victor von Doom is "Doomcock"'s role model and I think that says a lot.

I am relieved by your response.

I think comment on misinformation is valuable and prefer that we leave the post and link.

Alex Kurtzman is certainly leaving STAR TREK at some point. You could say that about anyone working on any series: they will be leaving at some point. We don't need to use a voice-deepening vocoder and put on a metal mask and call ourselves "Doomcock" for that.

We are living in a world that has a greater density of information and therefore misinformation than ever before. Misinformation is only going to get worse with artificial intelligence text generation. I know that STAR TREK non news is not a big deal, but if I were in the misinformation game, I'd probably start with niche science fiction for training and work my way up. I don't think any of us can stop it, but we should be hypersuspicious of news where the supposed journalist hides behind a mask to talk about a TV rocketships and laser guns.

The absurd "Doomcock" made a splash claiming he'd learned from test screenings that DIAL OF DESTINY would erase Harrison Ford and replace him with Phoebe Waller-Bridge who would take over the franchise. Since that was very much not the story of DIAL OF DESTINY, it's time to put a pin in "Doomcock" and treat his 'news' as precisely what it is: inflammatory lies made up to get short-term attention for web traffic and ads and crowdfunding. And we should not be linking to misinformation or referring to it as a "report".

Again: he calls himself "Doomcock". He presents himself to the world as "Doomcock".

I'm going to ask you not to share any more links to misinformation in this forum.

That YouTube channel is for a notoriously unreliable fraud with the asinine moniker of "Doomcock". This phony, in recent false news, gave a completely untrue summary of INDIANA JONES AND THE DIAL OF DESTINY where he claimed Harrison Ford's Indy would be erased from history and replaced by Phoebe Waller-Bridge's character. This person couldn't be trust to give a weather report, never mind STAR TREK news.

Furthermore, any news of franchise directions right now is obviously false because of that minor event you might know of called the writers' strike. Regardless, if you're trusting in a news source named "Doomcock", you need a different news source and to reconsider whether or not you have a firm grasp on reality.

I have no idea what you are thinking posting this link here. I don't know if it's related to that vague post of vagueness you put in the political thread. But this is not a place for fake news and fraudulent reports and misinformation.

I totally agree that Season 3 looks a lot sharper than Season 2. But Season 2 takes a massive leap forward from Season 1, and I'm betting it's because digital telecine could be used to transfer film to digital videotape with significantly less generational loss in image quality.

I completely trust your account of any and all streaming quality and don't feel the need to watch it myself. You found that the PAL SD blu-ray release of SLIDERS had more texture and detail than the NTSC DVDs when watching it on a video player; you then found the reverse was true when reviewing the raw blu-ray files on a computer. pneumatic later explained to us that a lot of modern players will handle 30fps deinterlacing by dropping half of the fields for anything in motion while fully weaving 25fps, so the blurrier 25fps will be processed into a 540p image while 30fps files will come out at 240p. You're clearly very good at reviewing visual quality, so if you say something looks a certain way, then that's how it looks.

Hmm. I recall actually seeing the CLONE WARS movie 2008 in a movie theatre when it first released. I remember thinking at the time that the character and prop designs looked like wooden marionettes rendered in computer graphics but with all the immobility and rigidity of wood and little of the versatility and motion of animation.

I remember finding that while the writing benefitted from not being written by George Lucas and his robotic dialogue, the pacing was dull and tedious and like watching four TV episodes spliced into a film reel and even then, it would still have been tiresome halfway in.

I remember thinking Ahsoka had a lot of potential as a character, but was shallowly defined. I remember thinking that James Arnold Taylor's Obi-Wan voice was an impersonation of Ewan McGregor's Alec Guinness impression and was like a photocopy of a photocopy. I remember thinking that Matt Lanter's voice of Anakin was significantly less whiny than Hayden Christensen and therefore 200 percent more tolerable, and wondering if we might get a more convincing portrait of Anakin's fall to the dark side from Lanter.

I remember thinking that this was all so boring in a 100 minute movie and deciding not to bother with the TV show.

I rewatched it just now and had exactly the same opinion except if Slider_Quinn21 thinks CLONE WARS is good, I'll watch at least the first season.

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Slider_Quinn21, I was wondering: do you find it an issue that the Ahsoka and Anakin who are meeting again in the live action series are not Ashley Eckstein and Matt Lanter but instead Rosario Dawson and Hayden Christensen? Is there any issue with the actors who first built this relationship being absent, and two actors who are onscreen strangers to each other being the ones who get 'reunited' with each other? I don't know if there would or wouldn't be, I'm just interested.

Lucas remarked in 2008 that he didn't rehire the original actors for CLONE WARS because they were all filming projects in different parts of the world and too difficult to schedule for recording. He also remarked that hiring big name actors for animation was paying more for celebrity promotion than performance. He probably could have just said the first part and kept the second part to himself. ;-)

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My irritation with politics right now: Canada has two main parties, the Liberal and Conservative parties with the National Democratic Party making up a minority.

The Liberals basically treat government as administrating an oil company. Despite Prime Minister Justin Trudeau being a handsome, left of center leader whose cabinet is 50 percent women and releases lots of social media posts and press releases about equality and feminism and climate change action and Indigenous peoples, Trudeau has driven two women out of their posts for not being gentle enough on corrupt corporations caught in financial crimes, subsidized and nationalized oil pipelines, had police drive Indigneous peoples off land that was in the way of a pipeline, and overseen an ongoing transfer of the country's wealth and resources away from the people and to corporations.

The Liberal social justice posturing is just marketing. The Liberals have shrugged off the unaffordability of housing, turned a blind eye to raging forest fires from fossil fuels, dismissed inflation and bankrupt cities, and shown callous disregard to the crises faced by working class people.

As far as I can tell, the Conservative Party of Canada is pretty much the same with the Liberals except where the Liberals pay lip service to social justice and climate justice, the Conservatives proudly flaunt their climate change denial, wealth hoarding, and their abuse and exploitation of minorities, Indigenous peoples and the working class.

I have reluctantly voted Liberal in election after election in the spirit of choosing a preferred opponent and because in my riding, voting for the NDP is effectively voting for the Conservatives. I voted for the party that didn't deny climate change... although it was still the party that opened more pipelines.

Summer polls mean little, but currently, the Conservatives are surging in the polls for a future election because Conservatives are making lots of noise about working class suffering. I don't doubt for a moment that the Conservatives, if they were to win government in 2025, would be the the present Liberal government but without the feeble restraints of performative social justice for Facebook and Instagram.

There has historically and will always be a culture war of the Liberals and Conservatives in Canada, but to me, it looks like a phony war. Both sides have the same goals: corporate wealth over common good. Liberals can sometimes be bent to progressive action because the alternative would be bad PR, but that's not saying much. They're only liberal for the cameras.

The Pilot is not the best episode for comparing video quality across distributors and streamers. It was edited on film in contrast to the rest of Season 1 being edited on analog videotape and Seasons 2 - 5 being edited on digital videotape.

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Streaming Compression

Disclaimer 1: My understanding of all this is a little shaky, so please be aware that I may have made many errors as I try to explain a confusing situation to myself.

I haven't watched SLIDERS on streaming, but every streaming service uses video compression. I've read that Netflix compresses its video into a lossy format that loses some sharpness and eliminates most of the film grain to reduce bandwidth. They transmit the video. A sharpening and noise-addition layer is applied to the received stream. They are probably doing this for all content and not selectively. This approach is fine for HD digital video or film converted to HD digital video.

However, if the video is standard definition, Netflix's approach is going to diminish whatever limited merits the SD file had in the first place: what was already blurry is blurrier and sharpening makes it blockier.

Standardized Streaming

There's also Netflix's standardized streaming format: 24 fps (actually 23.976)with videos in a 1:1 pixel aspect. On average, DVDs of older TV shows would be 30 fps (well, 29.97), in 720x480 resolution in a 9:8 pixel ratio (I'm basing that on what I've read about DEEP SPACE NINE DVDs, but pneumatic can correct me).

Netflix's pixel aspect conversion turns 720x480 files into 576x432. Then Netflix applies inverse telecine to get 30 fps frame rates to back to 24 fps. The reduction creates blur, and the inverse telecine makes things worse for SD TV shows specifically.

3:2 Pulldown

From what I've read of pneumatic's work and read on my own: a lot of film-based projects were converted for home release, changed from 24 fps to 30 fps to match the 30 fps of a CRT television.

When playing meant-for-CRT 30 fps files on modern HDTV displays, the interlaced 30 fps video will stutter without conversion. Inverse telecine converts 30 fps video back into 24 fps. Inverse telecine combines multiple frames into single frames to restore the original frame rate. This is effective for playing 30 fps content that was originally shot and edited in 24 fps film.

However, most 90s TV shows were only shot on 24 fps film, not edited on 24 fps film. Instead, the 24 fps film was converted to 30 fps videotape via 3:2 pulldown. The conversion created new frames: three single frames, one duplicated frame (3:2), to reach 30 fps, and also separated the frames into interlaced fields for interlaced CRT display.

Jumble

As long as there's a consistent cadence of three single frames and one duplicated frame, the video looks consistent. Unfortunately, production would edit the finished episode together by copying different shots from different videotapes onto the video master. In addition, the master videotape would have sequences that only ever existed in a 30 fps format: special effects, specific video effects sequences.

I'm guessing here, but it looks to me like each transfer from analog tape to analog tape seemed to distort the cadence further as fields and frames were mis-duplicated or dropped, further confusing the cadence.

The final episode would be a jumble of inconsistent cadences that might look fine on a CRT TV but shows artifacts and mismatches when a player or streaming services uses inverse telecine. The confused cadence means that a streamer or a disc player using inverse telecine doesn't have a consistent cadence for combining mismatched frames for 24 fps display.

Image Loss

As a result: there's resolution loss when half of the fields are absent. There are artifacts when mismatched frames are combined. This is probably why pneumatic kept seeing interlacing issues that he said looked "baked in" and why the frame rates and cadence were so inconsistent within individual files. And because streaming is compressing the file as well, it looks even worse than DVD.

Telecine Equipment

The jagged edges are periodic in "Summer of Love", "Last Days", "The Weaker Sex" and "The King is Back" but severe in "Prince of Wails", "Fever", "Eggheads" and "Last Days". My guess is different episodes used different telecine hardware for 3:2 pulldown conversion, some of which created the 30 fps frame rate with poor frame duplication and inconsistent cadence, and some of which did a better job.

"Last Days", for example, suffers from telecine judder where the others don't, so it was transferred on different equipment than the rest. There are different telecine tools: flying spot scanners, line array CCDs, pulsed LED systems. Give the inconsistency, it's likely that Season 1 of SLIDERS used whatever telecine tools were available at the exact moment that film came in, and not every episode used the same process.

I think it is also likely that whatever process was used to transfer the Season 1 episodes' analog videotapes into a digital format for DVD release created another level of generational cadence distortion.

Season 2 Upgrades

Most of these issues seem to vanish with "Into the Mystic". Season 2 benefitted from switching to digital videotape and with that would have come a new film-to-videotape telecine process.

I'd be curious to know how SLIDERS in Seasons 2 - 5 look on a streaming service. With the DVDs, I don't recall any of the Season 1 interlacing issues on Seasons 2 - 5. They probably exist, but they don't seem as noticeable.

Two possibilities present themselves: digital videotape has some final process to make the cadences more consistent. Another possibility is that the telecine process for digital videotape ensured that sequences could be transferred from editing videotapes to the video master to DVD digital files with a lower level of generational loss or cadence distortion. This would isolate cadence issues to sequences where material from different videotapes are put in sequence with each other.

It could be some combination of both.

Possible Solutions

I have to think that Netflix's approach is likely the industry standard and other streamers would just compress more or compress less.

Probably, the solution could be at the studio level: studios can use a more pneumatic-style approach to their old SD 30 fps video library. They could get their material back to 24 fps themselves via QTGMC & TIVTC which provide field weaving, frame matching and selective frame discarding rather than inverse telecine assuming the cadence is consistent. They could use neural network upscaling to bring it to 1080p in a 1:1 pixel aspect ratio. They could provide those files to streamers and streamers won't do downscaling or frame rate conversion.

Disclaimer 2: Please please please please please do not ask me to contact NBCUniversal about this. It's not my job to provide unpaid labour to a multinational corporation's video on demand department. I care about an intellectual property that happens to exist on one of their ledgers, but that doesn't make me their slave.

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THE X-FILES was definitely groundbreaking when it first aired 1993. It presented horror and science fiction in the context and budget of a TV budget police procedural. It presented itself as a show with an ongoing mythology with fans urgently combing through ancient texts from cultures across the globe to uncover Chris Carter's secret code. It delved into shadow government conspiracy theories that were often too bizarre for the mainstream and presented them in the familiar cop show context. It made ideas that were too fantasy-oriented and too peculiar seem accessible.

However, it quickly became a follower rather than a leader. BABYLON 5 debuted in 1994 and began an ongoing arc. BUFFY debuted in 1997 and showed that you could do ongoing continuity as well. BABYLON 5 and BUFFY would hint at cataclysmic events... and show them. And move onto something new.

Meanwhile, THE X-FILES, even by its ninth season, was still teasing a future alien invasion story that it could never actually show onscreen with a TV budget.

Of course, BABYLON 5 and BUFFY were niche shows for sci-fi and fantasy fans. THE X-FILES, however, was a major network show courting a general audience, and THE X-FILES had a viewership and a fanbase and a legacy that BABYLON 5 and BUFFY can never hope to match. And THE X-FILES could have absolutely achieved the same pop cultural immortality as STAR TREK if it had reinvented and updated itself.

But unfortunately, it came back in 2016 and was hilariously dated. The idea of federal government masterminding a secret shadow government was laughable in an age where conspiracies are obvious and open in the capitalistic gluttony of the military industrial complex. The idea that aliens could be hidden from the public in an age of YouTube was absurd.

THE X-FILES revival mythology was toxic: a lot of the X-FILES shadow government conspiracy concepts had become based in fraudulent health misinformation where essential and life-saving vaccines were falsely called toxic by pseudoscientists and fakes.

THE X-FILES revival doubled-down on this anti-vaccine, anti-health misinformation that was eccentric in the 90s but outrageously foolish and harmful in 2016. It was truly misguided for Chris Carter to present polio vaccines as the delivery system for the Spartan Virus, especially when Carter himself is absolutely not an anti-vaxxer and just wanted the dangerous vaccines as a plot device.

It's funny: when comparing the 2018 season of SUPERNATURAL and the 2018 season of THE X-FILES: SUPERNATURAL's 2018 season (its 14th) was a strong combination of ongoing arcs and standalones. The season premiere established the threat of a rogue archangel. Character relationships progressed each week even if individual cases were wrapped up, the rogue archangel story expanded the show's mythos with new developments and revelations.

In contrast, THE X-FILES' 2018 season seemed deeply confused. The Season 10 cliffhanger was dismissed as a dream. The Season 11 premiere established that Mulder and Scully were searching for their son; it isn't mentioned again until Episode 5, doesn't come back until Episode 10. Episode 2 has Mulder and Scully living in the same house in a romantic relationship; Episode 7 has Mulder visiting Scully's separate house and saying he's never been there. Episode 1 has Mulder driving a Mustang; Episode 7 has Scully driving an SUV that Scully drove in the 2017 season.

Episode 3 has Mulder and Scully romantically involved; Episode 4 has Mulder disappearing for days and not bothering to tell Scully. Episode 1 has Mulder and Scully losing all trust in Skinner; Episode 6 has them helping Skinner without confronting him. Season 11 had some great episodes ("This", "Lost Art of Forehead Sweat", "Ghouli", "Followers", "Nothing Lasts Forever"), but against the incoherent continuity, the characters seemed like different people in different lives from week to week. It was alienating and confusing.

I'm not saying that the continuity of SUPERNATURAL was ever perfect, but SUPERNATURAL never lost track of where the characters were living, who they were dating and what they were driving.

Looking at the 2018 series finales for SUPERNATURAL and THE X-FILES: SUPERNATURAL's season finale asked some difficult questions about why evil and injustice exist, featured some strong comedy and compelling action, and had a shocking climax where Sam and Dean confront their enemy: God.

In contrast, THE X-FILES' season finale had a shootout, a car chase, a run around a dark warehouse... and had nothing much to say about conspiracy, legacy, family, faith or science. THE X-FILES finale had nothing to say about anything.

This sort of time-slot filling, statement-free mediocrity is no longer enough for a TV show to become a global phenomenon.

There is a lot of good work in TV. QUANTUM LEAP is a heartfelt treatise on empathy augmented by technology, STRANGER THINGS is a haunting period piece, and even low stakes comedies like the SAVED BY THE BELL and iCARLY revivals were able to revisit former storylines with care, introduce ongoing arcs, and keep track of where everyone lived and who was dating whom from week to week.

It's absurd that Mulder and Scully were not receiving ongoing character arcs in 2018 when that same year featured Archie Andrews, Sabrina the Teenage Witch and the Ninja Turtles with season-long development. If THE X-FILES can't meet the standard of Archie, Sabrina and the Turtles, then THE X-FILES has no business being on TV.

I hope THE X-FILES will come back someday with a showrunner who can keep track of where everyone lives and who is dating whom from week to week.

Do I need to watch CLONE WARS and REBELS to understand AHSOKA? I'm very intrigued by the recent buzz around AHSOKA. I don't object to watching CLONE WARS and REBELS, but I don't know how long it would take me to get through them.

I haven't watched SUPERMAN AND LOIS' third season yet. I've been too tired to watch something that I want to enjoy with full attention, so I put on the fourth season of TITANS while doing various chores. It's a baffling series to me, using a grab bag of leftover copyrights after other licensors took Batman, Superman and the rest.

It's still up to its old habits of overpromising and underdelivering: it teases an appearance from Superman but they don't have the license, so we just get a note; Bruce Wayne corresponds via unheard phone calls; Lex Luthor is only permitted a brief appearance. Season 3 wasted a year trying to tell the story of BATMAN: A DEATH IN THE FAMILY and BATMAN: UNDER THE RED HOOD without using Batman and Season 4 seems to nod at this bizarre trait before going into a story that, despite its flaws, actually pertains to the Titans.

The story this year seems to have an inciting antagonist and then it sparks very separate plotlines for all the characters as each episode splits them up for something else. I continue to be unsure as to how these arcs are thematically linked by anything more than moody lighting and severe cinematography and high-stress performances. I would say that for the previous three seasons too.

The series continues to emphasize bombast and moody visual spectacle for superhumans. TITANS' protagonists spend most of their time fighting their grudge matches and enmities with old enemies and very little time protecting innocents and saving people. There seems to be some congitive dissonance where Nightwing and Tim Drake kill at least one henchman in the heat of combat but Nightwing later declares that the Titans don't kill.

In previous seasons, the Titans killed various people in combat and were eager to abandon people in trouble and also let Jason Todd murder various victims and wander off freely. Raven has a lot of lines and some lip service to helping people, but for the most part, these superheroes do nothing heroic. Season 3 continues with more of the same and seems to think that these depressed, dour people have won the audience's loyalty.

I really don't get it. I don't understand why all these characters are in the show, and TITANS is using a grimdark aesthetic to make the shallow and thin seem deep and complicated. The show is well-cast, visually compelling, technically proficient and not exactly terrible, but I don't know why anyone would make a superhero show where they're never really heroes or why they would do it with the TEEN TITANS copyright. But it's inoffensive while I'm refilling Sodastream bottles and folding socks and doing other such tasks.

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............... is there some sort of FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS media tie-in that fills in the continuity gap? A novel, comic book, audioplay, webisode, app, puppet show, picturebook or cereal box? Is the writers' strike the reason the character ages got muddy?

I've only ever seen a few examples of this. THE BLACKLIST had a spinoff, THE BLACKLIST: REDEMPTION that got cancelled after one season on a cliffhanger. THE BLACKLIST parent show continued to behave as though the spin-off REDEMPTION was still on the air and would refer to the offscreen characters and then had a vaguely described resolution to the cliffhanger.

However, it seems strangely common in comic books. One standout example: The BATMAN RIP storyline ended with Batman in a helicopter explosion, presumed dead... except that Batman was also appearing in FINAL CRISIS where was also thought to be killed off in a fight with Darkseid. It took two years before an issue of BATMAN called "The Missing Chapter" explained that Bruce survived the helicopter explosion, and then engaged in the events of FINAL CRISIS. Shortly after BATMAN RIP, we got BATMAN AND ROBIN REBORN (2008) where Dick Grayson was Batman and Damian Wayne was Robin. Naturally, one would expect a Superman story where Superman has to adjust to Dick being Batman instead of Robin. And we got one... in 2010. Two years after BATMAN AND ROBIN had started.

One weird event: SILVER SURFER Volume 1 #18 (1970) ends with the Surfer declaring war on all humanity. The comic was promptly cancelled with this issue. The Surfer showed up five months later in SUB MARINER, but instead of wanting to destroy humanity, the Surfer was merely avoiding people. A resolution only arrived in 1999, 29 years later, in WEBSPINNERS #4 - 6 where Spider-Man faces the savage Surfer and they learn that the Surfer was affected by a telepathic villain.

I've seen the opposite of this: HEROES had a bizarre continuity implant: the second half of Season 3 had Sylar joining the federal taskforce hunting down evolved humans. One episode, in the recap sequence for previous episodes, showed Sylar stealing the identity of a Homeland Security agent. This never happened in any previous episode; the scene was shot specifically for the recap sequence and presented amidst actual previous-episode footage. It was so jarring and offputting, everyone watching the show knew that the scene was not from a previous episode. I wonder what they thought the writers thought they were getting away with.

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I haven't seen FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS, but it seems to me from your description that FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS, in trying to keep its cast together and in the same scenes, had to muddy its timeline and the ages of its characters into something less defined so that the character ages wouldn't overtly contradict their ongoing presence in the show.

I'm not familiar enough with the show to say if it's a serious issue or if it's a minor concern. A writing mentor of mine once said that continuity is a tool to add a sense of myth, history and context to a story and often declared that issues like the THE X-FILES' incoherent mythos or Laurie Strode's fate or ages of characters are immaterial and irrelevant. I am personally a little more continuity aligned where I think it can be a lot of fun to look at where a fictional universe holds together and where there are gaps, and I think it's important to eventually get things consistent enough to avoid confusion. I'm not bothered that James T. Kirk seems to be working for Spacefleet / Space Central / Star Service etc. if they eventually settle on Starfleet and stick with it.

I think all shows have continuity errors, but modern shows put more effort into obscuring them. Older TV shows were often written by writers who had not necessarily seen very many of the previous episodes because watching them required special visits for a screening in an edit room. In addition, there was the expectation that episodes would be broadcast as opposed to viewed on demand where audiences might be reviewing and looking more closely. Modern shows are written with the understanding that the immediate story may be more important than avoiding contradictions, but they still try to smooth them over, sometimes with a quippy line, sometimes by having Starfleet classify two seasons of DISCOVERY.

FRINGE is a favourite show of ours that has some pretty enormous continuity discrepancies: the series premiere has John Scott trying to kill his girlfriend Olivia Dunham by running her off the road only to die in the resulting car accident; later in the season, John is revealed to have been a hero who was undercover and his attempt on Olivia's life is acknowledged (OLIVIA: "You tried to kill me!") and then gently ignored (JOHN: "No, Liv. I loved you") and never explained. We're supposed to vaguely think that John was just trying to escape in his car; we're encouraged not to remember the pilot episode too much.

We get a glimpse of an alternate universe in Season 1 and it's completely mismatched to our full view of the same alternate universe in Season 2. In Season 1, the Peter character is being hunted by a local Boston crime boss; this is forgotten. Season 2 introduces a new Fringe agent, Amy Jessup (Meghan Markle) who disappears after a cameo in her second episode.

FRINGE tried to deal with its errors with sentiment, misdirection and distance. John Scott was revisited after a long run of episodes without him and his redemption story validated Olivia. An late Season 1 episode had Peter urgently avoiding someone assumed to be the crime boss; it turned out to be somebody else and then Peter's situation was forgotten.

Nearly an entire season passed before we saw the alternate universe in detail again, letting the audience forget how it had first appeared.

Amy Jessup was glimpsed in a cameo role with the unspoken implication that she would come in and out as needed; she never came back in. In each case, the viewer was subtly encouraged to not think about something 'for now', and sometimes, 'for now' became forever, and the show tried to let the viewer forget that all this once mattered. It didn't matter anymore.

HEROES is one of those shows where its continuity failures unfortunately tore it apart. I can't get into all of HEROES' continuity issues, but the main one: characters with powers each had a strange DNA helix symbol appear on their bodies. This meant their powers came from a specific source that had branded metahumans. In addition, all metahumans' powers reflected their user's psychological makeup: Peter's empathy made him mimic other people's powers, Nathan's distance made him fly, Claire's resiliency made her invulnerable, Hiro feeling like life was passing him by made him a time traveller, etc.

The implication: everyone with powers had been genetically altered by whoever created the helix symbol and given them the genetic potential to express their innermost states via their specific superpower. The alteration may have taken place before they were born, perhaps some sort of wide population experiment.

HEROES in Season 2 features Takezo Kensei, a 17th century swordsman whose blade has the helix symbol and has the power of cellular regeneration. The indication: everyone's powers in the present day are part of an experiment to recreate Kensei's gift, likely by randomly applying his genetic factors to test subjects without their knowledge. I'm just speculating, but I suspect this was laid down by Season 1 producer Bryan Fuller who left the show before Season 2 but after seeding some arcs.

Unfortunately, HEROES lost the (implied) genetic engineering orgin story. There was never any explanation for the helix, no origin story for the powers. I suspect the issue was the writer's strike curtailing Season 2. When the show remounted for Season 3, Takezo Kensei's actor, David Anders, had limited availability. HEROES dismissed Kensei and his symbol and all the hints and clues that came with him. And so, it discarded all the origin story implied by those clues. This also meant that HEROES lost its hold on the core theme of the show: the characters' powers were an expression of the characters' internal state. Without that framework, the writers lost sight of the characters: Peter was no longer defined by empathy nor Claire by resilience, Mohinder became a mutated reptile villain for half a season, the everyman Ando got superpowers that didn't speak to who he was at all. This was a situation where continuity actually mattered and they lost it.

However, HEROES does feature one of my favourite continuity patches. Mohinder's accent was originally Indian but the creators decided, a few episodes into filming, that they wanted him to have an English accent, perhaps it would convey more authority and full command of the English language (and scientific English). Actor Sendhil Ramamurthy proceeded to have Mohinder's accent gradually shift from Indian to English over course of Episodes 2 - 4 so that the change wouldn't be too distracting. This didn't really matter, but it's funny.

One of my favourite continuity issues: the demon-killing Colt was an essential prop in SUPERNATURAL. In the fifth season, the Colt fails to kill the Devil. The Colt is not seen for the rest of the season and it's unclear: was it dropped at the battle scene and lost? In late Season 6, it's finally established that the heroes lost the Colt in Season 5 and don't know where it is. Where did it go? Why did the writers take over a season to finally follow up on its whereabouts? Why was the follow up just a halfhearted shrug as to where the Colt had gone? Why did the writers lose track of the Colt, a vital weapon? This continuity issue was confusing and distracting. This mattered.

For years, I would randomly say to my SUPERNATURAL-fan niece for no good reason whatsoever, "Say -- whatever happened to the Colt?" This refrain became so obnoxious that at one point, she and I were playing the SUPERNATURAL edition of the board game CLUE and she threw the Colt gamepiece at me in highly understandable rage.

Slider_Quinn21 actually explained this: Season 5 was intended as the final season. When the Colt failed to kill Lucifer, it became irrelevant to the series, so the showrunner didn't follow up on it. When SUPERNATURAL made it to a sixth season (and the original showrunner left), the Season 6 writers realized: they had no idea where the Colt was. It was not retrieved on camera; it was not seen for the rest of Season 5. This meant the writers could not credibly show it in the heroes possession, nor did they know how to follow up on its present location as the Season 5 episodes had left no clues. And it wasn't that important because once the Colt failed to kill the Devil, it didn't matter anymore.

However, in Season 12, the writers wanted to do a PULP FICTION-esque heist film that required an important artifact; they chose the Colt as the artifact and finally explained where it had been since Season 5. They had a reason to use it again. And then, a few episodes later, they destroyed it, after which my niece smugly phoned me and said, "I dare you to ask me what happened to the Colt from now on."

MISSION IMPOSSIBLE isn't a TV show anymore, but one thing I find hilarious is how the Impossible Missions Force never seems like the same organization in each movie. In M:I1, IMF teams are assembled by the US from civilian or espionage for individual missions and then disperse upon completion or failure, the IMF has no fixed headquarters or facilities, and outside of a mission, the IMF ceases to exist. In M:I2, the IMF is composed of individual field agents who are assinged support staff from different fields for each mission.

In MI:3, the IMF is become a secret federal agency with offices, dedicated support teams, IMF-specific training programs, a CIA-style arrangement of divisions and hierarchy, and is a full organization rather than a mission-by-mission recruitment practice. In M:I4, the IMF is a black ops agency so distant and outside federal government that the President can dissolve it in a single memo. In M:I5, the former IMF is described specifically as Ethan Hunt's team, and the IMF is reinstated at the end. In M:I6, the IMF is a covert team within the CIA consisting of Ethan Hunt and his associates.

In M:I7, the IMF is described this way: when the CIA or NSA have a mission too complex or difficult for themselves, they "leave word" with "a man" who decides whether or not he'll accept the mission, implying that the IMF is now just Ethan Hunt and his direct associates. Paradoxically, there's a scene where Ethan welcomes a new IMF agent who doesn't appear again, suggesting Ethan is just one agent among many, suggesting that the IMF is merely a conduit to reach Ethan as opposed to being Ethan's employer. Also strangely, Ethan describes the process of being recruited by the IMF: the prospective agent must approach the recruiter and that recruiter is the CIA Director.

Somehow, MISSION IMPOSSIBLE manages to make these discrepancies trivial and irrelevant. MISSION IMPOSSIBLE movies aren't about the Impossible Missions Force. It's about Ethan, and the IMF only exists to justify Ethan Hunt's missions. In five out of seven movies, Ethan has been branded a rogue agent and isn't even working for the IMF. The IMF morphs into whatever the plot needs it to be for Ethan to be a field agent supported by a small team; the IMF will also morph into an antagonist should the plot require that Ethan be a fugitive for the story. It just doesn't matter.

Do the character ages actually matter on FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS? I don't know. I've never seen it.

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He means remastering projects that are only in standard definition right now, and re-releasing them as HD or 4K.

I read about 3:2 pulldown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-two_pull_down

I understand now that SLIDERS would have been shot on film but converted to 29.98fps via 3:2 pulldown for broadcast television and 24fps was the native framerate of the original film image.

I think this means I should redo the Pilot at 24fps.

Interesting. Why 24fps over 29.97fps? The Universal DVD files are 29.97fps. Is it because the original film would have been 24fps and the 29.97fps framerate is just the SD broadcast format achieved through frame duplication?

Your new settings seem to eliminate the MI settings that were used at some points for particularly problematic areas of shots with straight lines. Is that addressed elsewhere or would you recommend preserving the MI settings for specific episodes with a lot of jagged edges?

Would you recommend re-doing the Pilot at 24fps? The current version I have is 29.97fps.

Thanks so much!

My Mi Box 3 (an Android TV media player box from 2016) was having trouble using MX Player Pro playing the 60fps files created by pneumatic's script.

However, I noticed: MX Player Pro also couldn't seem to play any high bitrate MKV or MP4 file anymore; even 720p, 24 fps files the Mi Box 3 once handled with ease were now freezing up.

I tried upgrading the USB hub from 2.0 to 3.0 (since the Mi Box 3 only has one USB port and I attached a hub to allow more flashdrive and hard drive connections). I tried updating the MX Player video codecs, switching off the framerate matching functions on the box, reducing the TV resolution from 4K to 720p. I then factory reset the entire Android TV box and reinstalled MX Player Pro.

After some tests with VLC, I realized: something has gone wrong with MX Player Pro as it runs on my Android TV box. MX Player Pro worked from 2016 - 2022, but since then, some MX Player Pro app update or codec change has rendered it unusable for 2023 video decoding on this 2016 hardware.

Meanwhile, VLC on my Mi Box 3 is still able to play most videos with ease... except 60fps video files no matter how low the bitrate. 60fps is just too much for the Mi Box 3's CPU or GPU or even CPU combined with GPU acceleration. The hardware is too old. And since the only 60fps files I've ever tried to play on on this hardware, it doesn't make sense to buy a new Android TV box to play files that are only 0.001 percent what I am likely to watch.

I think my best route for my hardware is to keep pneumatic's script except for the framerate lines which I'll revert back to the earlier 30fps framerate settings... unless pneumatic could offer a new version that keeps all the improvements (sharpening, smoothing out the interlacing issues) but has a more pneumatic-approved way of limiting the framerate to 30fps?

Throughout seven seasons of TNG, Riker was said to have turned down command of the USS Drake, the USS Aries, the USS Melbourne, and Q said in VOYAGER that he'd expected Riker to beat out Janeway for captaincy of Voyager. The explanation given is that he felt he had more to learn on the Enterprise, which is meaningless nonsense to justify Jonathan Frakes being on contract.

My head-canon analysis was that Riker felt his niche was handling all the tasks that tend to make a commander unpopular. He wasn't confident about inspiring loyalty.

I don't necessarily know that the William Thomas Riker I describe is the Riker that was intended. It's possible that Ronald D. Moore, Michael Piller, Brannon Braga and Jonathan Frakes would tell you: Riker wasn't normally like that and that my analysis is overinflating outlier examples.

However, my impression of Riker is reflected by most of the STAR TREK novelists I've read from fan favourites like Peter David to William Shatner himself. In THE RETURN, Shatner and co-writers Garfield and Judith Reeves-Stevens see Riker as the 'bad cop'. Riker aggressively questions Spock and Dr. Bashir on the resurrected Kirk and alienates both; Riker is ruthless and tricky in trapping Kirk; Riker is ready to shoot a senior citizen, Dr. McCoy, (on stun) when McCoy tries to defend a violent Kirk. Riker takes on work that others would hesitate to do for reasons of conscience.

As for a more pronounced arc for Riker:

There is a character on the medical sitcom, SCRUBS: Dr. Bob Kelso, the hospital chief of medicine. Dr. Kelso is always prioritizing wealthy patients over poor ones, focused on hospital budgets and actively sabotaging the spirit and comfort of his doctors and nurses. He also tries to prevents doctors from volunteering their own time to treat uninsured patients. He is constantly bragging to his lower-middle class staff about his lavish vacations. Kelso is the villain for the first four seasons, defied by the heroic doctors.

In the fifth season, we see Dr. Kelso shut down a pre-natal clinic for being unprofitable, and then he chooses to prioritize care for a rich patient which causes a poor patient to die. This is normal for Dr. Kelso except Season 5 actually offers his rationale: Dr. Kelso pressures the rich patient for a donation which reopens the pre-natal clinic. Dr. Kelso admits he has spent decades sacrificing the individual patient to save mass numbers of patients; his uncaring bitterness is a facade and defense mechanism.

We also later learn that all of Kelso's lavish vacations are a lie; he's going to medical conferences to update himself on new techniques.

It's unclear why Kelso presents himself so unflatteringly to his staff until Season 6. We learn that Dr. Kelso has been deliberately making it difficult for his doctors to treat uninsured patients to create deniability with insurance companies even as Kelso leaves his doctors just enough loopholes to get away with it.

We also have an episode where the doctors and nurses are distracted from work over arguments about the Iraq War. Dr. Kelso addresses this by discontinuing the employee discount at the coffee shop while sadistically flaunting how he retains the discount himself. The staff instantly set aside all political differences to unite in hatred for Dr. Kelso.

Season 7 retains this softening of Dr. Kelso; he has gone from "evil boss" to "practical realist who accepts all the tasks that make a boss unpopular". We also learn that Dr. Kelso has stayed in his job for far longer than is good for his sanity because he fears his successor could be everything Kelso only pretends to be.

Season 8 has Dr. Kelso retire after appointing an ideal replacement, but he keeps hanging out at the hospital to avoid his wife and enjoy the lifetime supply of free muffins he won in a contest. Without the burden of being the bad cop, Kelso offers grandfatherly advice and medical mentorship. He goes from Riker to Picard.

I assume that Riker, like Dr. Kelso, was someone who had accepted a conscience-taxing job that both felt someone had to do. A job they didn't want to inflict on anyone else, hence Riker refusing every captaincy and Kelso staying on as chief of medicine even when it was making him a lonely, miserable isolationist hated by everyone in his life.

I assume that at some point between Season 7, Riker experienced... something. Something that changed him. I don't know what changed; maybe there's something in those pre-NEMESIS TREK novels that I never got around to reading. Maybe Number One is still alive in the TNG era and sang her song to Riker.

Kirk and Number One do not agree with Riker and Kelso's approach to leadership. I don't either. However, I don't work in a hospital. I don't work in the military. I can't say for certain that their approach isn't needed in life and death situations.

I'll simply note that a lot of the time, the Rikers and Kelsos of the world aren't mistreating their staff out of a strategy to covertly protect and empower their people; they mistreat their staff because they are abusers and harassers.

We should be wary of this myth of the heroic bad boss.

ireactions wrote:

In the novel THE RETURN... Kirk nearly murders Picard with his bare hands until Riker (of all people!) gets the drop on Kirk.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

That makes sense, though, right?

I feel Shatner was, despite not being a natural athlete, very good at faking Kirk's physical aptitude for hand to hand combat. In contrast, Jonathan Frakes clearly has a back injury that restricts his movements. (It's also why Frakes throws his legs over the back of chairs instead of lowering himself into them.) In the book, Riker tricks Kirk into a trap.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Isn't Riker essentially Kirk 2.0?

Ah. No. I understand that Kirk and Riker are both men of action in command positions and seem popular with women, but there, the similarities end. Riker's character is underexplored because we generally only see him with his colleagues and he only has a moderate amount of authority over them. Most people associate Riker's character with Jonathan Frakes' warm screen presence.

However, the reality of Riker: he behaves in classist, elitist, manipulative fashion and he exerts emotional pressure on his subordinates, which is everyone on the Enterprise-D who isn't Picard, Data, Worf, Geordi, Crusher and Troi.

We only have a few instances of Riker interacting with non-senior staff, and all are revealing: in "Hollow Pursuits", Barclay is clearly terrified of Riker and Riker is brusque and severe.

In "Thine Own Self", when running Troi's command aptitude test and in an unusual position of power over her, Riker is devoid of instruction or encouragement, completely devoid of empathy, allowing her to suffer and strain and break down.

In "Lower Decks", Riker is condescending, dismissive and cold to every junior crew member as he conducts their performance reviews. Riker has absolutely no regard for anyone who isn't on his level on the Enterprise organizational chart.

Riker is everything that Number One would consider wrong about a command officer and everything Kirk rejects as a command officer. Number One's song, "Connect to Your Crew", is the embodiment of how Kirk treated his staff aboard the Enterprise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l43M1b0fK4

Kirk clearly knew every red shirt's name and was regularly having lunch with his operations and security and science officers in the comissary. Kirk gave orders with a tone of humour and warmth and presented himself as a captain whom any crew member should feel comfortable talking to about anything. Kirk could be severe in a conflict or when dealing with an insubordinate subordinate, but he was a highly affable authority figure.

However, Kirk is a bit of a fantasy figure, coming off more as a not for profit project manager in a peacekeeping organization. Riker, in contrast, is distinctly from the culture of the US Navy where a ship's executive officer, second in command under the captain, is tasked with maximizing the performance of everyone else. Riker's behaviour is not particularly uncharacteristic of real life executive officers: distance and aloofness, emotional unavailability, terrifying subordinates into performing with no interest or regard for their personal hangups. The executive officer's job isn't to be everyone's friend, but to be the whip and boot to the backside. Emotional and psychological issues are not a factor, only labour and results.

I don't hold with that: I think it's a normalization of what easily becomes abuse and yields camouflage to abusers and harassers. Number One doesn't hold with that. Kirk doesn't hold with that. However, executive officers are also people who have to order their subordinates into dangerous situations and sometimes order them to their deaths. Executive officers maintain distance from their people so that they retain the capacity to send their people to die. Kirk's approach to command avoided having an executive officer, just an executive assistant, and Kirk suffered tremendous guilt and grief over his dead crewmen.

Riker, in contrast, probably slept better.

That said, Frakes puts in just enough levity in his performance to suggest: Riker didn't actually like treating his crew members with distance and disinterest, he felt it was his job to make them afraid of him and let Captain Picard be the command officer everyone loved. Riker was sparing Picard by taking on all the tasks that would make a commander unpopular; that's why Riker seemed to do all junior crew evaluations, run all crew aptitude tests and handle assigning all junior crew within Operations.

Throughout seven seasons of TNG and three films, Riker seems totally disinterested in commanding a ship of his own, not becoming a starship captain until NEMESIS. The explanation given is that Riker feels he hasn't learned all he has to learn as the Enterprise first officer and that Frakes' contract was for seven years. But if you wanted to come up with an explanation: it might be that Riker didn't like himself as a commander. He didn't like that he was a harsh master, he didn't trust himself to turn it off when he became a full-fledged captain, he didn't think he could transition to becoming a gentler leader, he didn't think he could assign the role of bad cop to someone else. Perhaps between the Season 7 finale and NEMESIS, Riker found a better way to be an executive officer and then accepted the captaincy of the Titan.

Anyway. Riker isn't really like Kirk. Kirk is a good boss. Riker is a bad boss.

My boss at work is a Kirk.

While I like STRANGE NEW WORLDS-showrunner Akiva Goldsman's work, I feel that Goldsman's use of Section 31 in DISCOVERY and the Gorn in STRANGE NEW WORLDS reflects a lack of creativity.

Why the Gorn? It's a fair question. If Goldsman wanted STRANGE NEW WORLDS to have a primary villain the way THE NEXT GENERATION has the Borg and DEEP SPACE NINE has the Dominion and ENTERPRISE had Brannon Braga -- why didn't he create a new one? Why did he instead choose a one-off villain from "Arena"?

I don't know, but I do notice that Section 31 featured heavily on DISCOVERY under Goldsman. It made no sense for Section 31, established as a black-ops team outside Starfleet, to be presented on DISCOVERY as a generic spy branch within the Starfleet chain of command. It would seem Goldsman wanted the recognition of the name "Section 31" over "Starfleet Intelligence", and if it weren't for the Section 31 name, the spy branch on DISCOVERY would be unmemorable and indistinct.

And with the Gorn, it would seem Goldsman wanted an underfeatured but well-remembered name from THE ORIGINAL SERIES to serve as the STRANGE NEW WORLDS villain, and prioritized the name over any previously established characteristics of the Gorn.

The Gorn of SNW are known to the Federation instead of unfamiliar; they're a quadriped-reptillian variant on ALIENS-style parasites instead of humanoid bipeds, they're nimble and fast rather than strong and slow; they're active invaders rather than defending perceived threats to territory.

It's like Goldsman decided to use the Gorn name for the recognition factor, even when the parasite villains he'd written didn't resemble the Gorn in "Arena" and contradicted the first Federation/Gorn encounter in "Arena". Goldsman's use of "Gorn" was to add identity and meaning to an otherwise generic space-parasite monster that, if given an original name, would be utterly unremarkable.

Goldsman has his strengths and weaknesses. I think he captures the progressive, diverse, peacekeeping tone of STAR TREK and Starfleet as well as Gene L. Coon and certainly better than Gene Roddenberry. I'm impressed by Goldsman's daring: casting swimsuit model Rebecca Romijn (a person not known for her acting) to play the highly intellectual Number One was a baffling choice. But it turns out Romijn is actually a brilliant actress who is spectacular as Number One.

However, Goldsman is not as creative as Gene L. Coon (Starfleet, the United Federation of Planets), Maurice Hurley (the Borg), Ira Steven Behr (the Dominion and Section 31). Goldsman has not created anything as vital as Starfleet, the Federation, the Borg, the Dominion or Section 31... and is instead assigning the names of inventive concepts to extremely generic ideas.

Ira Steven Behr doesn't seem too busy right now. Maybe Goldsman should call him up to create some new villains.

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Why a prequel?

From what I can tell, STRANGE NEW WORLDS was not originally planned. Bryan Fuller wanted to do a STAR TREK anthology show that would start before TOS and then time travel into the TNG-DS9-VOY era and then go forward. Fuller wanted to do a neo-retro look to TOS that was going to look... pretty much like STRANGE NEW WORLDS. Then Fuller got himself fired.

Why Fuller keeps getting fired from his own TV shows (DEAD LIKE ME, DISCOVERY, AMERICAN GODS, AMAZING STORIES, THE VAMPIRE CHRONICLES) is probably a post in itself.

According to interviews, Akiva Goldsman (of BATMAN AND ROBIN feature film infamy and FRINGE renown) joined DISCOVERY after Fuller left. Goldsman had agreed to join DISCOVERY sight unseen, simply eager to be part of a STAR TREK show. Goldsman had assumed that this prequel would feature a revamped-retro look on THE ORIGINAL SERIES and feature Captain Pike, Number One and Spock.

Goldsman was baffled to discover that DISCOVERY featured no TOS characters and that CBS had rejected the retro costumes as looking too retro. CBS also demanded that DISCOVERY start shooting. With the clock ticking, Goldsman and the costume designers went with a new variant on the ENTEPRISE costumes because they knew CBS would approve them, grabbed whatever unfinished scripts and napkin-notes Fuller had left, and hurriedly began scripting and shooting. Goldsman wasn't in a position to start over with DISCOVERY, but it would seem he steered the show towards the Season 1 finale in which the Enterprise NCC-1701 rendezvous with the Discovery, the first step in reconciling DISCOVERY with TOS. Goldsman pushed for Pike, Spock and Number One to appear in Season 2, and pitched STRANGE NEW WORLDS, the show he had mistakenly thought DISCOVERY would be.

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... why does Bryan Fuller keep getting fired from TV shows? I am trying to think of a way to offer my theory without being sued for libel. It's easier to be frank about David Peckinpah and Bill Dial because they're dead. I think I'll finish my Kirk vs. Riker post first.

QuinnSlidr wrote:

Finally able to watch the latest episode of SNW. At last back to real Trek that I can immerse myself in and get away from reality for a while without freaking below average singing or musicals. Ugh.

With everything we're going through after the death of my stepdad, it's the wrong time for a musical and I have zero patience for this artificial "joy" bullsh*t that Trek had to force on us. For the time being (and likely for at least 6 months from now) I will not be watching that musical episode. Or any, for that matter.

There are times in my life when I have felt really upset and hurt, and anything that didn't reflect or accommodate my grief and rage seemed stupid, ridiculous, absurd and nonsensical. It's okay if STAR TREK or a musical is just not what you need right now.

However, I can say that "Subspace Rhapsody" is a rather cynical, downcast episode that is only made bearable through the guardedly optimistic tone of the songs. La'an discovers that her passion and desires crash straight into reality. Spock discovers that everything he was worried about happening and hoping wouldn't happen to him is in fact happening and it happens in the most humiliating way possible. The best that can be said is that Captain Pike was able to shift major embarrassment into minor embarrassment and Uhura got a lot of console hours in. That's not to say you should watch it, but I can assure you that it isn't a joyful episode, but a nuanced one that reflects how life can be pretty disappointing sometimes (and often).

QuinnSlidr wrote:

It's not a stretch to think that what we perceive as growls and threatening communication and "Monsters" from the Gorn may actually be attempts to communicate.

But, what do I know...I'll wait for ireactions on this one. smile

My supposition at this point would be that most of the onscreen Gorn in STRANGE NEW WORLDS are young, infant, feral Gorn with whom the universal translator has no ability to interpret, at least for now. The humanoid Gorn of "Arena" was an adult Gorn, and the universal translator still seemed to struggle until the Metrons stepped in.

Also, we don't know that these feral Gorn or the savage adult Gorn of "Arena" are a representative consensus of all Gorn. Twitter isn't a representative consensus of the human race, after all, nor is Sliders.tv a full representation of all science fiction and fantasy fans.

Case in point:

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I will need our Trek historian ireactions to help me understand if we're screwing up continuity too much with this much interaction with the Gorn.  My limited understanding was that Starfleet hadn't really seen the Gorn until Kirk and that the Federation hadn't really interacted with them a ton. I also struggle to see how this species became technologically advanced, but maybe I'm just not being creative enough.

Grizzlor wrote:

To quote Bill Shatner, Get a Life, it's....it's just a TV show!" I've been battling with people on the trekbbs boards on this, you cannot really expect this writing staff to be connecting everything they do with the minutia of TOS canon.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I mean...you have to at least try, right?  That's the problem with doing prequels.  It's exciting to have a scary new villain, but it has to fit into what we already know.  And to be fair, I have no idea if this is a violation.  I haven't seen Arena in a very long time.  I just know that the Gorn weren't mentioned at all in any of the TNG-era shows so the continuity probably isn't super important.  Maybe there's a war and they agree to just have no contact.

I think that it's fair for a fan to observe that fiction in an ongoing franchise written by numerous creators over decades isn't going to have seamless continuity. At the same time, I think it's a fun game to try to stitch the gaps of continuity back together.

I think the "Get a life" remark might be better applied to those who engage in "battling" about continuity on TrekBBS. I personally like to think that Sliders.tv isn't that sort of community.

In THE ORIGINAL SERIES episode "Arena", the Enterprise crew definitely doesn't recognize the Gorn; the Metrons tell the crew the name of the Gorn. Kirk says in his log, "This is Captain James Kirk of the Starship Enterprise. Who ever finds this, please get it to Starfleet Command. I'm engaged in personal combat with a creature apparently called a Gorn." This doesn't track with STRANGE NEW WORLDS set around a decade before "Arena" where the Gorn are known to the Federation, albeit with few survivors to tell about them. STRANGE NEW WORLDS is not maintaining continuity with "Arena".

However, I'd like to think that here on Sliders.tv, when we discuss continuity breaks like this one and how they might be bridged, we aren't really quibbling about who said and did what in what frame of what episode. We are really discussing storytelling: how stories told by many hands over many decades will have variability in themes and details and interpretations of the mythology, how well those interpretations fit together or don't, and how these interpretations reflect different eras of TV.

"Arena" was written by Gene L. Coon in the 60s and on that 60s production model, the Gorn was an alien made for one episode with a rubber suit made for use in one episode. Writer Gene L. Coon gave zero thought to how the Gorn might recur or what their backstory might be in prequels or what their society or culture or origins could be. They were an enemy for Kirk to pursue, to be imperiled by, to defeat, and to spare. The elaborate rubber suit meant it took multiple performers just to play one Gorn, so the Gorn would not be effective as a recurring foe and this was definitely a one-off. The casting and costuming needed for Gorn are why they didn't return until ENTEPRRISE. "Arena" is so determined to contain the story to a single episode that they introduce godlike beings, the Metrons, to force the story to a conclusion.

The Gorn being different in continuity and approach in STRANGE NEW WORLDS speaks to how modern TV wants to create a mythology and a past, present and future for the Gorn in order to use them across many episodes and make them an identifiable part of this particular show's mythos and iconography.

One possibility for why Kirk in "Arena" didn't recognize the Gorn: the Gorn in STRANGE NEW WORLDS are seen obscured by suits or not fully grown or in a non-humanoid form, feral and wild rather than the fully-grown, humanoid Gorn in "Arena". Federation society didn't have a coherent, consistent portrayal of the Gorn and the Gorn, while public knowledge, weren't widely known or recognized and popular memory simply categorized them as "unknown alien" with the other unknown aliens.

A similar tactic was used in ENTERPRISE: when the Ferengi and the Borg showed up two centuries before Starfleet officially first encountered them, but their races were never identified during ENTERPRISE, and these pre-First Contact contacts weren't recorded. However, this is going to take a lot of having Kirk conveniently being absent whenever the Gorn were an issue, and I'm not sure STRANGE NEW WORLDS can sustain that when Starfleet admirals are bracing for war with the Gorn and the name is known.

The blanket possibility is that the Romulan-Federation temporal incursions, in pushing the Eugenics Wars to later in time, also altered the Federation to advance at a faster rate into space to leave behind Earth's past conflicts. The Federation in this new timeline met the Gorn earlier, so the events of "Arena" will occur with Kirk recognizing the Gorn, knowing of them as the voraciously predatory monsters of STRANGE NEW WORLDS and pursuing them vengefully only to show mercy when realizing that humans have (accidentally) been breaching Gorn territory in ways that (to the Gorn) seem like invasion. The time travel of "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" actually explains pretty much every interseries discrepancy of the STAR TREK franchise.

Again, this isn't something that anyone ever needs to be "battling" over. TrekBBS can be hilarious. Sometimes, TrekBBS will be screaming blue murder over a starship Enterprise that predates the NX-01 and have a heart attack over Christine Chapel being written as a capable career woman who can enjoy casual sex. Sometimes, TrekBBS will insist that Section 31 is totally an official part of Starfleet and insist that no one on DEEP SPACE NINE ever had any specific dialogue that specifically said that S31 was outside the Starfleet chain of command.

The reality is that fans have always had to stitch together discontinuities, often within individual shows themselves. Of all the shows, THE ORIGINAL SERIES has the most discontinuities within itself and with its sequels and prequels.

THE ORIGINAL SERIES can't keep track of what century it's supposed to be. It's set in the 22nd or 28th century. Kirk's employer goes from being United Earth Space Probe Agency to Spacefleet to Space Central to Space Command to Starfleet. Kirk's government goes from being United Earth to the Federation to the United Federation of Planets. Spock's people go from being the conquered Vulcanians to the Vulcans who founded the United Federation of Planets with humans. The Enterprise alternatively has spheres or vents on its back nacelles depending on what stock footage they were using that week.

Part of the fun of STAR TREK, I think, is coming up with increasingly insane explanations for all of this as we eventually get to the altered Klingons and uncharacteristic unreliability of the transporter in THE MOTION PICTURE to World War III being shifted forward in THE NEXT GENERATION. Or Data having emotions and using contractions in TNG Season 1 only to become more machinelike in Season 2.

Then there's "Turnabout Intruder" declaring women can't be starship captains when ENTERPRISE shows the NX-02 captained by Erica Hernandez. Or VOYAGER and PICARD visiting the 90s and 2020s with no sign of the Eugenics Wars or World War III, the Borg Cooperative of PICARD's second season dismissed as the Borg Collective returned. Or DEEP SPACE NINE declaring that Sisko's father is dead only for Joseph Sisko to be alive and well and running a successful restaurant in San Francisco.

This stuff happens. I think "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" is going to be a good continuity patch for decades, explaining why the Federation and Starfleet didn't seem to exist until the middle of TOS Season 1.

But there comes a point when it's more worthwhile to discuss the variations in storytelling and when it comes to continuity. What stands out to me: Gene L. Coon created the Gorn as an inhuman monster: its reptillian appearance makes it impossible to anthropomorphize the design with human expressions. It's designed to look predatory and bloodthirsty. But Kirk chooses not to put the Gorn down as a monster, but instead spare him as a person and try to make peace with the species.

Compare that to the first Kirk episodes of STAR TREK, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and "The Man Trap" where Gene Roddenberry's STAR TREK is about being threatened by monsters whom Kirk and company exterminate with explosives and phaser fire. Roddenberry got distracted by merchandising STAR TREK and Coon took over as showrunner and in "Arena", he completed the transition and changed STAR TREK from being about soldiers in space to peacekeepers in space with "Arena" declaring that the Gorn, whatever its crimes, however frightful it might be, was still a person. So far, STRANGE NEW WORLDS has presented the Gorn as monsters, but the story isn't over yet.

Hopefully, STRANGE NEW WORLDS won't pull a Season 2 DISCOVERY and put everything under a classified non-listing to never be discussed. I think you can only get away with that once and Slider_Quinn21 would argue that you can't get away with it at all.

Anyway. In 2013, there was a STAR TREK videogame to tie into INTO DARKNESS. I've never played it and it's by all accounts an abomination akin to "Spock's Brain", but the commercial advertising it with William Shatner and the Gorn was a delight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hnBp7x2QAE

I don't know what you're talking about. My comments were about the Spock/Chapel breakup in "Subspace Rhapsody". Spock and Chapel have some significant scenes in "Hegemony", but they are still broken up in the episode.

Furthermore, the fellowship for which Chapel is leaving is with Dr. Roger Korby; THE ORIGINAL SERIES establishes that Chapel was engaged to Dr. Korby, so STRANGE NEW WORLDS intends to send Chapel to work with Dr. Korby.

But even if they weren't, what was said and sung in "Subspace Rhapsody" is what happened in "Subspace Rhapsody" and Chapel's reasons for the breakup in "Subspace Rhapsody" remain the reasons that she gave in "Subspace Rhapsody".

Given that my comments about "Subspace Rhapsody" are about the events of "Subspace Rhapsody", I don't see what "Hegemony" could do to render it moot; "Hegemony" could have opened with Chapel waking up and describing the events of "Subspace Rhapsody" as a nightmare and my review of the scenes in "Subspace Rhapsody" would still stand as the review of the scenes in "Subspace Rhapsody".

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In other news: PRODIGY got an update on its production:
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-prodig … on-update/

There continues to be no news on THE ORVILLE.

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Well, I feel TF has captured the important stuff in Dimension of Continuity which is currently available via Archive.org. I admit, I've been so busy lately (hence the lack of posts) that I haven't even managed to finish converting SLIDERS REBORN to ePub format (although I am about halfway through converting the sixth and final part).

In podcasts, Carter had alluded to a novelist writing a new X-FILES novel that he had been reviewing. It definitely wasn't this project, though, and Carter did not name the author. Since then, I haven't heard anything about it. Maybe it didn't go forward.

Before the writers and actors' strike, there was some indication that the excellent Ryan Coogler (BLACK PANTHER) was going to be reviving THE X-FILES either as a reboot or a continuation with a new cast. Obviously, it's all shut down now and who knows what will survive the strike. Hopefully, THE X-FILES will be back in some form, preferably with a more competent creator.

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X-FILES: THE OFFICIAL ARCHIVES: CRYPTIDS, BIOLOGICAL ANOMALIES, AND PARAPSYCHIC PHENOMENA was an official collection of 50 monster of the week FBI casefiles (in-universe documents). A sequel has been announced: X-FILES: THE OFFICIAL ARCHIVES: EXTRATERRESTRIAL ACTIVITY AND THE SYNDICATE, covering the Colonization myth-arc, release date December 21, 2023. I'm not sure how the book can make sense of it after Seasons 10 - 11.

X-FILES: THE OFFICIAL ARCHIVES: CRYPTIDS, BIOLOGICAL ANOMALIES, AND PARAPSYCHIC PHENOMENA is a wonderful book by Paul Terry. It is a collection of FBI casefiles, photographs, archival notes covering 50 of Mulder and Scully's monster-of-the-week cases. This is not a guidebook to the entire series, but rather a curated collection of in-universe documents.

The files are, of course, written in the voices of Mulder and Scully preparing their reports after their investigations with photographs showing scenes, items, and evidence. Author Paul Terry had, for this licensed book, gotten access to FOX and Chris Carter's prop collections to take photos. In some cases, Terry had to recreate the props as digital images for the book.

One delightful touch: as the X-Files department was set on fire and their records burned in the Season 5 finale "The End", the book has frequent notes from Agent Leyla Harrison (the FBI accountant from Season 8 & 9's "Alone" and "Scary Monsters") detailing how many of the files we're seeing are reconstructions and partially recovered retrievals from damaged computer files. Many of the pre-Season 6 files have scorch and burn marks to account for how they are present in this casebook after the fire. It's a hilarious and clever approach to justifying these files' existence after the show destroyed them.

Now, Terry has turned his casefile approach to Colonization and what is going to be even more of a continuity conundrum than the fire of "The End".

From Eat The Corn's Facebook Page:

Following the revelations of the cases declassified in THE X-FILES: THE OFFICIAL ARCHIVES: CRYPTIDS, BIOLOGICAL ANOMALIES, AND PARAPSYCHIC PHENOMENA comes this vital second volume of top-secret X-Files: THE X-FILES: THE OFFICIAL ARCHIVES VOLUME II: EXTRATERRESTRIAL ACTIVITY AND THE SYNDICATE details Agents Dana Scully and Fox Mulder’s close encounters with alien beings and exposes the secrets of the shadowy Syndicate.

Featuring UFOs, little green men, and the conspiracies to hide them from the public, these richly detailed and painstakingly re-created case files open up the X-Files universe like never before. These vital cases served as the backbone to the cult television series and provided a powerful throughline and emotional lifeline for Agent Mulder.

Now, through archival imagery and unredacted reports, fans can experience firsthand the thrills of some of the series’ most beloved episodes, including “Deep Throat,” “Jose Chung’s from Outer Space,” “Fight the Future,” “Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man,” and many more.

I am not sure how these casefiles will reconcile the Season 1- 9 mythology with Seasons 10 - 11 declaring that it was all a hoax. I am not clear if the book will even cover Seasons 10 - 11 and none of those episodes are listed (although no comprehensive list of episodes covered in Volume II is available yet).

Season 10 provided a broad, blanket explanation ("There is no alien conspiracy") that dismissed the black oil, bees, alien human hybrids, bounty hunters, buried spaceships, Faceless Rebels and Syndicate as a distraction.

It would be rather self-defeating if all of these casefiles were labelled as hoaxes.

Season 11 offers a scrap of reconciliation: the Mr. Y character (never seen in Seasons 1 - 9) gives brief exposition: "We were all part of a Syndicate involved in alien colonization" and adds, "The aliens are not coming," explaining that they have lost interest in planet Earth due to environmental damage, awkwardly shifting "There is no alien conspiracy" to "There is no longer an alien conspiracy". It goes by so quickly that I've never been able to really assimilate it.

I guess writer Paul Terry could go with the view that Colonization was a real but abandoned plan, and gently treat the "hoax" explanation of Season 10 as erroneous opinion rather than fact.

Grizzlor wrote:

I guess for a musical episode, it was fine, but just not necessary.

It was absolutely necessary for the storyline with Spock and Christine.

The musical episode features the Spock/Christine breakup and it happens in a shockingly humiliating and horrific manner for Spock, making a public spectacle of how she is leaving him and leaving Enterprise and didn't even tell him that she was departing until nearly everyone else knew -- except it's not totally Christine's fault.

Christine applied for a fellowship and got in, but held off on telling Spock, wanting to break up with him privately and personally, only to be unexpectedly feted in the crew lounge by friends who were present when she first received the news. She isn't happy about the celebration because there's currently a crisis and she hasn't had a chance to speak with Spock.

Spock sees her and asks why she didn't tell him that she is ending her time on Enterprise and their relationship as well. Christine asks to speak privately, but Spock, needing to trigger a song for more data to resolve the musical security crisis, elects to ask Christine to explain herself in the lounge with a large number of crew present to witness it.

Christine proceeds to belt out a lengthy song with dance accompaniment about how the fellowship is freedom and ambition, and the song indicates that Spock doesn't even factor into Christine's considerations except an afterthought comment about how she wouldn't hesitate to ditch him for a great job. It's not that she contemplated what it would mean to leave him, she flat-out didn't spare him a moment of thought.

Spock been humiliated in front of his shipmates, treated as a joke and an irrelevance in the most insulting fashion possible. He has sacrificed his own dignity and self-esteem to save everyone else's. I've followed Spock's career across TV, movies, novels and comics and I think this is one of the most heroic things Spock ever did. Yes, he died saving the crew in WRATH OF KHAN, but in "Subspace Rhapsody", he has to watch Christine crush every hope he ever had for their romantic relationship in public in a mortifyingly embarrassing display for all to see, and continue face his crewmates after that.

Christine is dismissive and hurtful towards Spock. It's only understandable because the music is making Christine say private things in public, and also because in "Those Old Scientists", where she found out from Boimler that the future Spock will close off his human side, confirming that Christine and Spock's romance has no future.

It's understandable that after that, Christine realized she couldn't let her not-to-last relationship with Spock be a factor in her career decisions. At the same time, due to Christine's withdrawal and silence, and due to Spock refusing to go somewhere private to discuss it (for scientific reasons), Spock is humiliated in full view of the crew happily celebrating how Christine is dumping Spock.

It is a grotesque scene. And without the musical situation where Christine is genuinely not able to moderate and control her emotional expressions and Spock is deliberately triggering them to restore everyone else's privacy, Christine would be a complete monster to behave this way. The musical plot device was essential for making sure there was some outside force to justify otherwise unforgivable behaviour.

It's also quite a moment that really demonstrates why Spock is such an icon and a beloved figure of STAR TREK. He will give up his own dignity to save ours. Spock truly is our friend.

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Honestly, the fact that Merrick Garland dithered this long and that none of Trump's indictments prevent him from running for office should tell you how dire the situation is and how democracy is in serious, serious trouble. I'm scared. I thought I was going to go blind in one eye last week and I'm more scared of Trump than I was of losing half my vision. But maybe, like my vision crisis, Trump in 2024 will turn out to be nothing to worry about and massively overblown.

But here's a more optimistic take from a prosecutor who thinks Trump's goose is cooked:
https://www.salon.com/2023/08/01/trump- … ing-cases/

Currently, PRODIGY is set to return on some other streaming service as post production is nearly complete. LOWER DECKS and STRANGE NEW WORLDS are expected to continue, but it's impossible to say what will come as Hollywood is currently shuttered under a writers and actors strike where they have every reason to strike and every advantage on their side and everything to gain.

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I'd be interested to re-read the Shatnerverse novels to see how well they hold up. THE ASHES OF EDEN, for me, is super-awkward because it features a terrifying and self-flattering portrait where Shatner has a 66 year old Kirk fall in love with a 20 year old Romulan-Klingon woman named Teilani. It is creepy and it made me wonder what the hell was wrong with Shatner.

THE RETURN is excellent, showing Kirk basically as Jason Bourne (more the movie than the book), an amnesiac renegade who is convinced that Captain Picard is his enemy. As Kirk hunts down Picard, Kirk trounces Worf in a fight, outdraws Geordi in a phaser battle, gets the drop on Data, and Kirk nearly murders Picard with his bare hands until Riker (of all people!) gets the drop on Kirk. There are also terrifying scenes of Spock, Picard and Dr. Crusher infiltrating a Borg cube, and then a wonderfully revitalizing sequence where Spock uses the mind meld to restore Kirk's true identity and McCoy and Spock have a joyful reunion with Kirk. There's also a real friendship between Kirk and Picard where they feel an instant connection as brothers; there's no experience they haven't shared. The book ends with a final assault on the Borg homeworld, Kirk disappears in an explosion, presumed dead once more, but Picard speculates that the flaming wreckage of the Borg homeworld is a better tribute to Kirk than the rocks that marked Kirk's grave on Veridian III.

AVENGER is... a little laboured and not amazing. The Federation is undergoing a horrific plague that has ravaged humanoids, animal and plant life; replicators no longer have the raw material needed to create enough food and water to sustain civilization. Kirk reappears and is reunited with Teilani, who is extremely long-lived as a Romulan-Klingon hybrid and she is now a century old, looks like a senior citizen human, is hideously scarred from the flesh-damaging effects of the plague. Kirk sees his 20 year old lover now an aged, facially-marred old lady... and loves her just as much as he did in THE ASHES OF EDEN; so I guess that's okay then. Kirk deals with the plague and then retires to the planet Chal with Teilani.

SPECTRE, DARK VICTORY and PRESERVER feature Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Picard and Teilani teaming up with the Mirror Universe version of Spock to take on Emperor Tiberius, the mirror-alternate of Kirk. PRESERVER also features the birth of Kirk's son with Teilani. The infant looks like a hideous infant monster; Kirk is horrified and repulsed. But then McCoy determines that the baby boy is simply a human-Romulan-Klingon hybrid and possessed of a gentle nature and a highly developed brain; Kirk accepts that his son may look strange but is nevertheless his son and names the boy Joseph. (I'm sensing a theme here.) Also, SPECTRE explains that the Borg attack on Earth in FIRST CONTACT was a direct response to the Federation taking out the Borg homeworld in THE RETURN.

CAPTAIN'S PERIL, CAPTAIN'S BLOOD and CAPTAIN'S GLORY feature Kirk going on a vacation on Bajor with Picard (yes, really), discovering that after the events of NEMESIS that the Remans want to adopt the now older Joseph Kirk as their new Shinzon, and that an enemy from Kirk's first five year mission, the Totality, is returning for a second attempt to destroy the Federation. This was pretty solid, although I confess, the whole gimmick of Kirk in the 24th century had been pretty comprehensively explored by the the last five novels, and these three novels were entering the realm of diminishing returns.

The final book in the series was COLLISION COURSE which features a teenaged Jim Kirk who loathes Starfleet after the events of "The Conscience of the King" where Starfleet failed to save a starving colony where Kirk loved before the insane governor ordered mass executions to extend the remaining food supply. Kirk is a criminal hacker trying to reveal Starfleet's corruption to the public; he gets mixed up with a teenaged Spock who is investigating a cover-up in the Vulcan embassy that leads to Starfleet. Both Kirk and Spock are arrested for hacking and breaking and entering; both are inexplicably offered a plea deal: they can enlist in Starfleet Academy as cadets or they can go to jail. They enlist and discover that while there are corrupt elements in Starfleet, there are also heroic individuals, one of whom arranged for Kirk and Spock to be offered their plea deal in order to expose a secret cabal.

This is all geeky stuff, but I felt that the Shatnerverse novels did a good job of making all this dense STAR TREK mythology content extremely accessible and compelling to the average reader who might not necessarily have watched or remembered every single TOS episode. The Shatnerverse books were written for a more casual audience in that regard while still really speaking to a diehard fan audience.

Grizzlor wrote:

The canon is all over the place, but the feeling is that the Farragut incident already has happened, at this point.  The cloud entity did not damage ships.  Given that young Kirk survived, and the Farragut needing a large scale crew replacement, it would make sense that his time on that ship allowed him to be promoted very quickly, given the loss of many senior personnel.  It might still be a Lt. but as Sam whined, he is the X.O. of that ship.

There isn't actually anything to confirm that the space cloud vampire incident happened before or after STRANGE NEW WORLDS. It's possible that Kirk being the executive officer is a hint; another hint is Christine Chapel in "Memento Mori" saying she served on the Farragut and putting on a remembrance pin for fallen comrades. But it wasn't said outright.

Memory Alpha, the TREK fan wikia, says that the space cloud vampire attack happened in 2257, two years before SNW's Season 2 (2259). But the original STAR TREK never actually provided any specific dates and contradictorily claimed to be set in the 22nd and 28th centuries.

The 2257 date is (I think) a conjectured date, probably provided in THE STAR TREK CHRONOLOGY, a licensed guidebook from Michael and Denise Okuda. But the CHRONOLOGY labels many of the years it provides as conjectural dates, not onscreen dates; STRANGE NEW WORLDS could easily ignore the guidebook and take the position that, with no actual date provided onscreen for the space cloud vampire attack, that it hasn't happened as of Season 2.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Maybe the intent is to eventually show this incident and it would explain the difference.  Maybe Kirk isn't assertive enough with his captain about the space vampire (deferring to him) and that blows up in his face.  Maybe he tries to think through a problem and ends up waiting too long and learns he needs to act first.  I'm not sure.

Well, that would track with the story in "Obsession" where Kirk hesitated to fire phasers on the creature and blamed himself for the deaths of the crewmen. Maybe Kirk realized he needed to work harder to be more convincing and to get people to take him seriously but also amiably.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I like this version of Kirk, but I've liked every version of Kirk.  I don't love that we keep retreading this era, and I don't like how Kirk's story ends*.  But I like watching any version of this character and seeing people's interpretations of him.

* I hope Terry Matalas gets to make Star Trek Legacy and brings Shatner back.  It seems like there was some reason they referenced Kirk in the Section 31...museum?

Well, the hope was to resurrect Kirk at some point in some future production, if not as William Shatner, then as a new actor.

I've never been happy with Kirk's death, but I was very happy with the ten William Shatner novels (THE ASHES OF EDEN, THE RETURN, AVENGER, SPECTRE, DARK VICTORY, PRESERVER, CAPTAIN'S PERIL, CAPTAIN'S BLOOD, CAPTAIN'S GLORY, COLLISION COURSE) which resurrected Kirk after GENERATIONS and kept him in the 24th century with Kirk having adventures between the TNG movies with Picard and Spock and then after NEMESIS before the final book focused on Kirk's first days in Starfleet Academy. To me, this is a disappointment that was addressed and resolved. But not everyone has time to read and enjoy ten William Shatner novels.

The Farragut incident is summarized in the Season 2 TOS episode "Obsession" where Kirk recounts how, as a lieutenant  aboard that ship, there was an attack from a space vampire cloud creature of sorts which killed numerous crewmen including the captain, an incident that left Kirk traumatized and obsessed with hunting the creature down once it resurfaced during Kirk's captaincy of the Enterprise.

"Obsession" was Trek doing MOBY DICK and... it's a savage, brutal, violent episode that is also infamous for its bizarre continuity: five Enterprise crewmen are killed including an ensign played by actor Jerry Ayres and the recurring character of Lieutenant Leslie -- except Jerry Ayres' ensign had previously appeared in Season 1's "Arena" in which he also died there, and Lieutenant Leslie is shown alive and well after "Obsession" in "The Immunity Syndrome". It's one of the strangest points of non-continuity ever in a show that was inconsistent to begin with.

I assume this is all reflecting the Romulan-Federation temporal war.

I don't disagree with Slider_Quinn21's remarks about Kirk in the time travel episode, but I'd note that Kirk's demeanor was more "smug chess club president" than "charming rogue". Also, if Kirk had really been opposed to La'an, he would have simply left her and found somewhere to get frozen in suspended animation until the 23rd century (which is something I thought might occur to the LOWER DECKS team in the 23rd century).

That said, according to Paul Wesley, the massive distance between his Kirk and Shatner's Kirk is deliberate, that he's going by "Where No Man is Gone Before"'s dialogue about Kirk in his youth.

Paul Wesley:

I totally took that “stack of books with legs” line and I actually based my Kirk on that line. I didn’t want him to be a complete stack of books with legs, because that would have been like watching paint dry. But I wanted to incorporate that brainier aspect of Kirk into my version of the character. When we think of Captain Kirk, there's an immediate sort of reaction: we know who he is. Kirk has obviously been established very clearly by not only pop culture history, and, but also, obviously, what William Shatner did in the 1960s. But the key thing is he’s recognizable. There’s a recognizable feeling, and I wanted to do something a little different with that. I thought this was a really good opportunity to start from a different place and watch Kirk build into the character that he’s known for in pop culture history. A lot of that has to do with maybe creating a bit less brawn and a little more brains, for lack of a better phrase. Having him still finding his footing. A little less self-assured. At this point, he’s trying to understand who he is and who he wants to be, and what kind of leader he wants to be. Because, ultimately, he’s not a captain yet.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/t … interview/

That's fine. It doesn't work for me, and I am not sure if it will work out. But I respect that Wesley has thought about it, the writers have thought about it, and they aren't just thoughtlessly missing the mark on what makes Captain Kirk iconic and powerful; they're trying to arrive at that destination from a far distance. I am not sure they can make it.

To me, they did something similar with Spock in DISCOVERY, but they did a good job of having enough of Nimoy's diplomatic severity in the writing and Ethan Peck's performance that it was recognizably Spock at a different chapter in his life than TOS. They presented Spock as messy and bearded and on edge and insane, but at the end of DISCOVERY's second season, Spock walked onto the bridge of the Enterprise in the Starfleet blue with his hair trimmed and his beard gone, once again the recognizable Spock. Maybe they should have given Lieutenant Kirk a non-Kirk outfit, maybe a variant on that green wraparound that Kirk sometimes wore.

To me, the constant variations in tone and genre make sense to me. Space is a big place with lots of room for many disparate life experiences.

I will say, there is one thing in STRANGE NEW WORLDS that just is not working for me. I don't like Paul Wesley's Kirk. That said, Kirk is a really difficult character to bring into the present day. But Wesley's Kirk seems to fall into a lot of traps.

In terms of casting, Wesley is an excellent choice for Kirk. Wesley's real name is Paweł Tomasz Wasilewski, which he changed to Paul Wasilewski for acting and then changed again to Paul Wesley to fit more easily on a resume.

I've only seen Wesley in two other roles: he played the self-servingly manipulative Lucas Luthor in one SMALLVILLE episode and he played the recklessly self-destructive Tommy on EVERWOOD, both roles where his characters' temperaments were a similar but less heroic variant on Chris Pine's screen presence as Kirk in the 2009 movie.

Actors like Paul Wesley with a roguish mischief and a certain edgy incaution are the model for James T. Kirk, a character whom William Shatner personified as a hypercharismatic leader. Shatner's Kirk is defined by certain iconic identifiers. Shatner's Kirk is hammy yet with a magnetic warmth. Shatner's Kirk is hyperfocused on achieving his goals and is also extremely good at telling people what to do in a way that's amiable rather than controlling.

STRANGE NEW WORLDS has a great actor, but the writing presents Wesley's Kirk with none of that. Wesley's Kirk is written to be apologetic: instead of flat out telling Captain Pike that he thinks Pike's command decisions were timid instead of bold, Kirk self-effacingly says he would probably have done things differently with embarrassment and discomfort. Wesley's Kirk is awkwardly unsure in telling people what to do or what he would do when Kirk was not only confident in declaring his wishes, but knew how to make people feel comfortable with his criticisms.

Wesley's Kirk is also written to be unassertive and unfocused. When on a time travel mission to the 2020s with La'an Noonien Singh, Kirk's attention drifts from the mission of identifying the source of temporal alteration. Instead, Kirk gets distracted by hot dogs, water, sunlight and planetary atmosphere. Kirk is also subdued in his self-deprecation as he tells La'an he urgently craves another hot dog. Shatner's Kirk, while keen to enjoy at least a little of everything that life had to offer, was a man with a mission. Wesley's Kirk is meandering.

The moment where Wesley's Kirk comes off as utterly unKirk-like is in "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow". Wesley's Kirk is aware that La'an is attracted to him and the feeling is mutual. But the script has Wesley's Kirk demure and hesitate, letting La'an make the first move. Shatner's Kirk was not someone who paused before telling a woman that he liked her; Shatner's Kirk would tell women who intrigued him that he was interested in them with directness and without a hint of embarrassment, he also made it clear that if they were to reject him, he'd still be interested in what they had to offer socially.

Shatner's Kirk excelled at telling people what he wanted out of them professionally and personally and telling them what he wanted without uncertainty or hesitation; Shatner's Kirk also excelled at conveying why giving him what he asked would be mutually beneficial to everyone involved. Wesley's Kirk is completely lacking in this natural and good-natured presence of authority.

I'm not sure how much of this is deliberate. Wesley has said that he deliberately didn't want his Kirk to feel like Shatner's Kirk because his Kirk is much younger and much less experienced. But it's not actually up to him. The scripts have made this younger Kirk unassertive and apologetic and hesitant and Wesley has played what's been written for him.

Chris Pine's Kirk was not William Shatner's Kirk either. But Pine conveyed a certain internal mayhem, a reckless streak, a persevering determination and a willingness to endure beating after beating and to do it with a smirk if it would get him a little closer to completing his mission. Pine had an immunity to embarrassment and a tolerance for punishment that came off as a primitive version of Captain Kirk's confidence.

Paul Wesley's Kirk doesn't come off as a young person who could someday become the Captain Kirk of THE ORIGINAL SERIES. His low key demeanor makes him seem more like a younger version of Jonathan Archer with Scott Bakula's humble warmth. Wesley's Kirk doesn't have even a hint of Captain Kirk's friendly competitiveness.

There is some canonical precedent for this. In the first-produced TOS episode with Kirk, "Where No Man Has Gone Before", Kirk is described in lieutenant days as "a stack of books with legs", implying that he was a more cerebral person before his starship captaincies made him more of an extrovert. This line seems to have been a holdover from when the plan was still to have a series with the more bookish Captain Pike of "The Cage", but STRANGE NEW WORLDS may be taking it as written in the same way it has accepted the smiling, shouting Spock of "The Cage" as a less disciplined version of Leonard Nimoy's Spock.

However, if the intention is for the younger Kirk to seem shockingly different from Shatner's Kirk, then it's odd that STRANGE NEW WORLDS was so determined to put Kirk in a modernized version of the iconic gold tunic of THE ORIGINAL SERIES and to visually convey that this is the same Kirk of TOS.

One neat alternative might have been to have the younger Kirk wear the Starfleet blue of the science division or the Starfleet red for operations and engineering -- and emphasize his bookish, intellectual side and his lack of command aptitude; to further emphasize that even in the Romulan-altered timeline, he was only captain of the Enterprise due to lack of personnel options. And then, in bits and pieces, we'd see flashes of Shatner's Kirk, indicating that the journey from being "a stack of books with legs" to a worthy starship captain is a journey with many twists and turns.

I'm not sure why Kirk is being written this way. It could be, of course, that bringing Shatner's Kirk to modern TV is a challenge. Shatner played Kirk in a STAR TREK show that was 60s pop art, produced and performed as televised stage theatre with Shatner's performance being accordingly broad and flamboyant for the elevated and abstract world of 60s sci-fi TV. This performance and this character could not exist in the more subdued, conversational world of STRANGE NEW WORLDS without some retrofitting; the Chris Pine character is just as exaggerated as Shatner but it's played for laughs and with Pine being at odds with the more controlled performances around him.

Wesley's Kirk is written to fit into a more subdued TV show, but in dialing down Kirk's theatricality, the show seems to have lost what made Kirk iconic and special despite having cast a good actor for the role.

I'm still having trouble getting my Android TV MiBox to play the 60fps files made with pneumatic's script, even when reducing the bitrate to 4mbps. The files would play for a few minutes, but then freeze up and the player would crash. I don't think it's anything pneumatic did or didn't do because the files play fine on my laptops (an i7 processor with 32GB of RAM and an Nvidia GPU, an i5 processor with 16GB of RAM). I think the Android TV MiBox just can't handle a 60fps MP4 at a 4mbps bitrate.

I'm still keeping the original 8mbps files, but I'm currently experimenting with running two sets of encodes: one is 1080p 60fps at 2.5mbbps. However, I am seeing that the sharpening and the compression are making consistent areas of one colour (like sky) rather blocky. It might be irrelevant when viewed on a TV at living room distance.

Another option might be to output the file at a higher bitrate, maybe back at the original 8mbps recommended by pneumatic, but at 720p with the AndroidTV scaling the file back to 1080p. The lower resolution may make no difference; the original files looked more like 360i than 480i.

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I have no concerns about the recent political discussions here.

I'm... on edge about the next election.

I am astonished and impressed by Rebecca Romijn's excellence in STRANGE NEW WORLDS. I wouldn't have expected much from her given that she made a living as a supermodel who was painted blue for the X-MEN movies; I didn't realize she was actually a good actress. I had a similar experience with Serinda Swan, a swimsuit model type who put in a ghastly performance as Zatanna on SMALLVILLE but turned out to be incredible on the TV show CORONER. In both cases, I now suspect that when their acting was bad in other productions, it's because they were receiving poor direction from directors who weren't interested in how they performed, only how they posed.

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Jerry O'Connell's good on LOWER DECKS, but he's not delivering the jokes as much as reacting to them. His voice isn't recognizable to me as Jerry.

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pilight wrote:

Star Trek was fairly progressive for the 60's.  Uhura was noteworthy just for being a bridge officer at a time when black women on TV were all maids or criminals.  She took the helm and worked at science station when needed.  The show was years ahead of anything else on TV just by treating her as a professional.

Roddenberry did want a female first officer, as seen in The Cage, but the network wouldn't allow it.

Gene Roddenberry was not prevented from giving more screentime to female characters in STAR TREK. Judging from the oral history of THE FIFTY YEAR MISSION and the Roddenberry biography THE IMPOSSIBLE HAS HAPPENED, the failures were mostly Roddenberry, and while he may have attributed any and all issues to vaguely defined "executives", this is self-serving revisionist history. Note that Roddenberry never distinguished between studio and network executives and used the term "executives" interchangeably.

Desilu Productions was primarily concerned with getting STAR TREK made for less than what NBC was paying them to make it; NBC was primarily concerned with selling ad time for the commercials during STAR TREK. Desliu and NBC took issue with the Number One character because the actress, Majel Barrett, put in a stiff performance and was clearly hired only because she was having an extramarital affair with Gene Roddenberry. Neither Desilu nor NBC wanted the scandal of that when producing or selling the show, and they demanded that Barrett be fired.

Later, when Roddenberry cast Barrett again as Christine Chapel, Desilu and NBC said that Chapel was to remain a small role or they would fire her again; this is why Chapel got nothing to do. Uhura (Nichelle Nichols) and Janice Rand (Grace Lee Whitney) were both cast with actresses chosen for Roddenberry's romantic interest in them; Nichols had been Roddenberry's former lover and Roddenberry propositioned Grace Lee Whitney (who declined but still had a good friendship with Roddenberry). Roddenberry gave Uhura nothing to do and laid Whitney off to focus more on Dr. McCoy. Every woman on STAR TREK was largely defined by romantic interest towards a man that was unrequited or indulged to their own destruction -- or they simply weren't defined at all.

Some may claim this was network mandate, but this is patently untrue because on STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION, Roddenberry repeated the same pattern completely on his own.

In the first season of TNG, Beverly Crusher, Deanna Troi and Tasha Yar were given very little to do and defined primarily by their attractions to Picard, Riker or Data. Denise Crosby (Tasha) had a meeting with Roddenberry where he flat out told her that the show was going to focus on the men, Picard, Data, Riker. "This is the formula for Star Trek and it works. It is not going to change," Roddenberry told her, and being a syndicated show, Roddenberry was not bowing to mandates from the studio or network. This was all Roddenberry because Roddenberry simply had no interest in writing women as people. They existed to love and serve men.

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Grizzlor wrote:

I cannot bring myself to watch Lower Decks or Prodigy whenever that comes out.  To me Trek is not slapstick comedy or children's toons.  ST:TAS was I felt mature (for the 70's) and serious.  In fact, I wish someone would reanimate that show using the original audio.

Grizzlor wrote:

SNW is terrific, and the Lower Decks (my favorite current Trek show) was absolutely perfect!

What happened here? My soul will not rest until I know what caused this turnaround of opinion. But I'm glad Grizzlor is enjoying LOWER DECKS.

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I've been thinking about "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" and how it alters STAR TREK from fixed dates to a vaguer floating timeline where the Eugenics Wars now happen at an unspecified point in the 'near' future, and explains that this is the effect of Romulan temporal agents attempting to prevent the rise of the Federation and Department of Temporal Investigations agents engaging in counterinterference operations. Unintentionally or not, this actually explains some of the stranger points of discontinuity in THE ORIGINAL SERIES.

THE ORIGINAL SERIES couldn't seem to figure out what century it was set in: "Tomorrow is Yesterday" sets the show in the 22nd century, but "The Squire of Gothos" indicates that it's the 28th century. It couldn't figure out whose Kirk's employers were: Kirk is alternatively working for the Space Central, the Star Service, Spacefleet, Space Service, Space Command, the United Earth Space Probe Agency -- it only solidifies into Starfleet with "Court Martial" (1.14).

In "The Corbomite Maneuver" (1.02), Kirk refers to being from a United Earth and in "The Conscience of the King" (1.13), McCoy says that the Vulcans were "conquered" (presumably by humans), but "Arena" (1.18) has Kirk describing a "Federation" that's only defined in "A Taste of Armageddon" (1.23) as a United Federation of Planets, dismissing earlier portrayals of Kirk representing an Earth-only government and then "Errand of Mercy" (1.27) establishes that Vulcans are part of the Federation as partners rather than a conquered people.

What is going on here, aside from Roddenberry letting other writers replace Roddenberry's Earth-centric intentions with Starfleet and the United Federation of Planets?

"Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" seem to suggest -- unintentionally or not -- that each TOS episode was a fragment of a timeline in flux. Notably, the episodes where Kirk worked for "Spacefleet" and "United Earth" were representing an instance of the timeline where the Romulans succeeded in erasing the Federation.

As the Department of Temporal Investigations rolled back the changes, we began to see continuity begin to solidify more with Starfleet and the Federation, but not entirely and not until the movies. We were seeing history in flux during TOS: a history where Earth's repressive attitudes to women and people of colour and gender identities were unfortunately carried into space, where Earth conquered the Vulcans instead of working with them -- and the original episodes of TOS were a temporal mirage that bears a painterly, sketchy resemblance to the original reality which was likely closer to STRANGE NEW WORLDS than THE ORIGINAL SERIES.

I'm sure it's not what they intended, but it works.

Some people have overtly or indirectly commented: I am overly concerned with 'fixing' things. For example, when writing SLIDERS stories, my top priority was resurrecting Quinn, Wade and Arturo and reuniting them with Rembrandt. Temporal Flux's priority was coming up with interesting parallel Earth ideas and satirical jokes.

I love STAR TREK, but it has committed some crimes for which I think the bill has come due. STAR TREK claimed to be a progressive series that presented a vision of how human beings could build a better world of equality and diversity. But invariably, all the women were passive oafs to be seduced or dismissed by men; military might was necessary in most if not all situations; black people were a curiosity or on the side; Christianity, transgender-exclusion and gender-essentialism were declared as universal constants; the final episode of STAR TREK declared that women weren't allowed to be starship captains.

STRANGE NEW WORLDS, reasonably or unreasonably, has risen to the challenge of standing trial for all of Gene Roddenberry's sins and asking: can STAR TREK overcome its mis-steps and misdeeds? Can STAR TREK plead guilty and pay for its crimes? Can STAR TREK pay for its crimes by making more STAR TREK that is better than what came before?

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Episode 2.02 of STRANGE NEW WORLDS is "Ad Astra Per Aspera" where Una Chin-Riley, Number One, is tried for joining Starfleet under a false identity: she is a genetically modified Illyrian, from a race in which genetic modification is a cultural norm, and genetic modification is illegal in the Federation and unwelcome in government service after the Eugenics Wars saw a war on humans by genetically engineered superhumans. Number One is facing 20 years in prison after declining a plea deal and having spent 25 years as a Starfleet officer under a falsehood, effectively treason and sedition. And Number One's lawyer, Neera Ketoul, seems to make a mess of the case right from the outset.

Ketoul puts Admiral Robert April on the stand, gets him to say he would never have recommended Number One for Starfleet service had he known how she was born, then rants at April for all of his Prime Directive violating humanitarian work, noting that Starfleet has no problem with its captains ignoring the rules when it suits them. Ketoul has Number One detail the extent of Number One's deceptions for nearly three decades of Starfleet service where Number One notes how her life as a child was constantly in danger and led to her terror of being found out in adulthood.

Ketoul raises the question of who knew Number One was a genetically modified Illyrian; as a result, Number One is forced to confess on the witness stand that Captain Pike has known for months that Number One is an Illyrian and did not report it. Ketoul questions Number One on who even reported her true nature to Starfleet and got her arrested; Number One confesses that she reported herself because she could no longer bear the guilt of her lies.

The prosecutor declares that Pike and Number One have engaged in a conspiracy to commit treason by Pike knowing who Number One was and hiding it. Ketoul calls Starfleet an unjust institution, doing little or nothing to actually help Number One's case. Ketoul notes that under Federation law, individuals fleeing persecution and violence based on their biological identity may seek safety via Starfleet; that refugees upon self-identifying and requesting asylum may be given consideration; that Starfleet captains have the discretion to grant asylum, yet Una Chin-Riley, Number One, receives no such consideration for being genetically modified. The situation is dire and all Ketoul seems to do is dig Number One and Pike in deeper.

But then Ketoul notes that Number One has met each and every condition to be considered a refugee. She was a genetically modified child who had to hide her identity to avoid persecution and violence against Illyrians; she self-identified when she confessed to Captain Pike. "And then by turning herself in, Una fulfilled the third and final requirement for asylum. She asked for it. And Captain Pike granted it. Like all good Starfleet captains, he exercised his judgement and gave her asylum. All this tribunal needs to do now is confirm that status to absolve them both."

I'm not a lawyer myself, I can't comment on the efficacy of this tactic in real life court, but in terms of an argument, I find it convincing.

I don't know Una Chin-Riley's trial is really related to putting STAR TREK itself on trial, but I believe that what Gene Roddenberry created is greater than Roddenberry himself, and I think STAR TREK will emerge from its trials better and stronger for it. So, in this instance, I think a prequel makes sense, is effective, and it's worth doing.

But I would say that. I care too much about fixing things.

STRANGE NEW WORLDS has had a somewhat guarded relationship with the continuity of THE ORIGINAL SERIES in its more progressive and diverse and nuanced approach to rendering people of colour and women aboard the Enterprise. It's been unclear how this could be reconciled to THE ORIGINAL SERIES and I've come to actively not want any reconciliation at all.

Season 2's "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" offers an explanation, not only for why women have independence and agency in a TOS-prequel, but why the cast of VOYAGER and PICARD returned to the 1990s and 2020s and didn't see any evidence of the 1990s Eugenics Wars and the early 21st century World War III and post atomic horrors.

The explanation is that Romulans and the Federation's own Department of Temporal Investigations have been in a long running time travel conflict where the Romulans have tried to erase the Federation from history by erasing the Eugenics Wars; the conflict has caused the Eugenics Wars and WWIII to be constantly pushed further into the future. The implication is that WWIII now being closer to the 23rd century is why the Discovery and the Enterprise in the prequels have a more militaristic edge in their designs and crew than what we saw in THE ORIGINAL SERIES.

The Romulan temporal sabotage and the DTI intervention is effectively a catch-all explanation for why 'present-day' time travel stories never reflected the TOS-described Eugenics Wars, why characters in DISCOVERY and STRANGE NEW WORLDS don't entirely match their depictions in TOS, why technology has shifted, and possibly why Section 31, previously a rogue organization that was ignored by Starfleet has become a branch of Starfleet Intelligence within the chain of command; a Federation where the Eugenics Wars were a more distant memory would reject Section 31 whereas a Federation where the Eugenics Wars were more recent would accept Section 31.

This closer-to-war context for the 23rd century would undoubtedly change cultures and personalities; the Christine Chapel of TOS may have grown up taking peacetime utopia for granted and never developed a harsher edge. The Christine Chapel of SNW knows that peacetime could vanish at any moment and isn't inclined to sit around pining for a man when there's research and exploration to be done.

I think the move mostly makes sense in that STAR TREK has struggled with its chronology being set according to fixed and specific years. With the temporal incursions, STAR TREK has now shifted to a floating timeline where the future is always a number of centuries after the date of the most recent broadcast rather than a date that the viewer could conceivably live to see and pass.