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Grizzlor wrote:

Obi-Wan is a huge disappointment.  I've seen fan films written better, with better production design.

Oh man, I disagree.  I just finished, and I enjoyed it from beginning to end.  I have a little trouble putting the pieces together with this show and A New Hope (mostly related to how SPOILER acts in A New Hope, having just seen it).

But I found myself very drawn to the characters.  I think Reva is a great character, and I thought the actress did a great job.  And I'm interested in seeing more.

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What's interesting about Star Wars vs Star Trek is my view on retreading the past.  I was very critical of Trek recently for doing more prequel stuff.  I want Trek to be moving forward, but I'm okay with stuff like Obi-Wan.

I think it's because Trek feels real, and I think the technology matters. I can buy that Kirk's Enterprise looks like a 1960s film set, and I can buy that they can travel the stars with tricorders that look less advanced than my phone.  And then that a hundred years pass, and they have original recipe iPads.  But then another hundred years has to pass for me to buy the "present"

I don't want adjustments.  The past is the past.

With Star Wars, it feels timeless.  The technology is stagnated so it all just feels vaguely futuristic.  And the action typically takes place in rural areas or small towns with little technology.  And Star Wars isn't real - so if someone is recast or changed, who cares?  They're fairy tales being told by a different person.

I think it's interesting.

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RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I haven't finished the Pilot novel but I will say I found it superior to the Back to the Future novelization (which I did like but didn't find it came close to the movie).

Okay now I'm curious.  Are you saying they made changes to the plot or just that the novelization doesn't capture the spirit of the movie?

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I loved seeing young Mark Hamill so I'm willing to forgive some of the woodiness.  Maybe Luke is finding his inner Vulcan and trying to act bland.  I don't know.  I know Kathleen Kennedy has talked about fan backlash at recasting Harrison Ford in Solo, and she's said they aren't going to do that anymore.  So any hope of recasting Sebastian Stan as Luke (or someone else) is off the table for a while.  Luke will be played by Mark Hamill now and as long as that decision is still in place.

I assume we'll eventually get a deepfaked Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher in one of these Disney+ shows.  We'll have James Earl Jones deepfake Darth Vader long after he's left this Earth.  Star Wars insists on telling stories from the same 60 year period, whether or not actors keep getting older and dying.

The technology will get better.  Luke in Boba Fett looks better than Luke in Mandalorian.  Leia in Episode IX looks better than Leia in Rogue One.  Eventually, we'll get a great Mark Hamill performance long after Mark Hamill is dead.

To me, I don't think too hard about it.  I was able to visualize Hayden Christiansen and Ewan McGregor when I watched the Clone Wars.  So I can try and visualize Luke acting like a human when I see him as a CGI character.

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I watched A New Hope for the first time in a long time this weekend.  It really holds up.

But since I'm also watching Obi-Wan, I was struck by how he acted.  Other than using the Jedi Mind Trick, Obi-Wan almost never uses the force.  Heck, almost no one uses the Force in the way we think about it now.  It's funny how much the Force evolved from what it is in Episode IV.

And I still think the lightsaber fight between Vader and Obi-Wan is just so awkward.  Alec Guinness looks so scared and defenseless.  I don't know if it needs to look like the refilmed version that a fan did not too long ago, but it would be nice for the fight to not look like two old men hacking at each other.  I know that most of the lightsaber fights in the Original Trilogy look like that, but Episode IV is especially bad.

That being said, it's a really great movie with great performances.

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So what are they doing with Diggle?  I've generally been an Arrowverse apologist, but the Diggle storyline is really bothering me.

As we all know, they've dropped hints that Diggle might actually be John Stewart, the famous Green Lantern.  From his family name to people asking him about his ring, there were seeds planted for a while that Diggle had a greater destiny.  Then, in the Arrow finale, Diggle finds a glowing green...something.  And it felt like a good end to the character.  Whether they're allowed to use Green Lantern on the CW or not, they pretty much said it.

Then Diggle came back - he was essentially the crossover for this year with all the covid restrictions.  He bounced around from show to show with his little box...and nothing really happened.  He had headaches and claimed to have turned down some sort of great opportunity, and now he wants another shot.  It all still pointed to a Green Lantern ring, and they're just delaying until they get some sort of permission.

Then Diggle shows up again, unexpectedly, talking to Thawne.  And Thawne helps him open the box with promises of cosmic adventures.  And...

...it's something else entirely?  And now that arc is over?  And now Diggle can teach young people about justice in his own non-Green Lantern spinoff?  What is this?

I get that David Ramsey is going to be in some spinoff, and the Green Lantern thing can't be hanging over him forever.  But it's pretty annoying to be teased with something for *years* for it to be written off like this.  Don't want to make him a Green Lantern?  Can't make him a green Lantern?

Fine, whatever.  But why not just have him reject it for good, on screen, with the same reasoning.  I don't want to leave my family to be an intergalactic cop.  Refer him to someone else - bring back Rene or Cisco or Wally.  Let them do it.  Make it vague if you have to, but don't just swap out the story.  Finish it.  Otherwise, what's the point?

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Well, I've heard speculation that they could somehow just turn The Flash into a Keaton Batman movie.  From all accounts, it was already pretty Batman heavy.  Maybe you either change the title, downplay the Flash as much as you can (where he's just the instigator to get to the other universe), reshoot the ending, and make it Batman movie?  Or maybe you change the title and just make the marketing about the Batman aspects of the movie?  I don't know.  Maybe that wouldn't work.

The other thought is, from what we've already seen, Miller appears twice in the film - as different versions of Barry.  Could you just reshoot one of them and leave Miller as a bad guy?

I don't know.  I'm actually fairly excited to see what they do with Keaton, and Keaton is supposed to be a Nick Fury - like character for whatever the future of DC is.  I think they have to release this movie.

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I wrote up a post about Kamala Khan, but it wouldn't post.  In case, it doesn't again, I'll give an abridged version.

Kamala Khan is an important character, but I struggled a bit with parts of her 2014 series.  I understand that a large portion of Marvel readers are probably Islamophobic on some level, and they might be less willing to accept Kamala.  And to work around that, they have people vouch for her that those readers would respect.

However, what the 2014 series ends up doing is repeating the same thing over and over again: Kamala meets a fan favorite (Wolverine, Captain Marvel, Spider-Man, etc).  They work together, Kamala saves the day, and the hero remarks that they've been keeping an eye on her and she's going to be great.

The problem is that, when Kamala meets Wolverine, she hasn't been doing it very long.  And she's only done a couple low-profile missions as Ms Marvel.  I doubt Wolverine heard anything.  It makes more sense for SHIELD to know, and the comic versions of Phil Coulson and Gemma Simmons both claim to be fans of hers.  Or for Carol Danvers to hear about her since she's wearing her old costume.  But it's a bit odd for Carol to take a couple of hours to do a side mission with Kamala.

I get why they did it.  I think it's probably good that they did it.  But as someone who already accepted Kamala, I just found it annoying and somewhat unrealistic to have that reinforced over and over again.

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ireactions wrote:

Just leave it alone and focus on the future.

If I was the Kevin Feige of Star Trek, this would be my entire mantra.  It would be written on every white board in the office, it would be written on my email signature.  I would make t-shirts.

I really enjoy Strange New Worlds.  But I like it in spite of being set when it's set....not because of it.  I don't need another Spock or another Kirk.  I don't need a new Uhura.  I don't need a new Pike.  I get that they found gold in Anson Mount, but I don't need to see more of this time period.  We know what happens to most of these characters, and it takes out at least a layer of suspense.  I know that the ship won't be destroyed in season 1 of any Star Trek show, but we definitely know the Enterprise won't.  They won't kill off the main character in episode 4 of any show, but we know Pike doesn't die here.  We know Earth won't be destroyed or the Federation won't be overrun.  We know the Klingons and Romulans and Federation will all be friends at some point down the line.

Plus, there's advancements in current technology and special effects.  When we see TOS, we can accept that it looks the way it looks because it's "in the past" - it doesn't matter that it's hundreds of years in our future - it's in *their* past.  Of course things look better now.  But by going back and updating things, am I supposed to believe that Kirk's enterprise always looked this way?  That they always had the technology we see on SNW and Discovery?  Does the Enterprise-D look different than we thought it did too?  It also looks dated now.

To me, the show should always move forward.  Especially when there's gaps in our time.  Discovery should've been set in the late 25th century.  That way, you can explain anything you need to explain with "technology got better"

So I think they never should've messed with the past.  If they said there was nuclear war in the 90s, then they should've stuck with that.  If they want to time travel to "now" they need to time travel to a world that's been through WWIII.  I'm sorry...that's just the case.  Unless, of course, you want to do a time travel story that undoes WWIII and just have Cochrane's flight be a last ditch attempt to prevent WWIII.  Or maybe Cochrane is going to create some sort of doomsday weapon but creates warp instead. 

I don't know.  I'm not the Kevin Feige of Star Trek.

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Yeah I don't mind a darker tone.  I'm just not sure it works for Jean-Luc Picard.  His story was always hopeful and bright.  And I think you can do dark with the lens of someone like that, but I'd prefer to see something different with him.  That's why I think it might be fun to do little sequels to TNG episodes.

Because Picard made a lot of tough calls, but the show tells us that it was the right call.  But what does the right call look like 30 years later?  If you save a kid from a burning building, it's the right call.  But what if that kid ends up becoming a tyrant?  Was it still the right call?  If you stop a genocide, but then that race ends up building a terrible weapon...were you right to save them?

To be fair, this is essentially the same idea I'd do for a Sliders: the Next Generation.  I'd have Quinn leading a group of younger sliders, and they'd occasionally end up on worlds they'd visited before.  How did Last Days world change with the introduction of the Bomb?  How did Weaker Sex world change now that the Men's Rights movement got a kick in the butt?  How did Eggheads world change now that....Quinn isn't there anymore?

That wouldn't be the primary driving force of the show, but in an E214 sequel show, I was going to do something like that.  My fun twist was going to be that one of the new sliders was going to get swapped out for his double (in my plan, he was autistic and could create wormholes organically).  So instead of trying to find their way home, they'd still be able to slide where they want, but they'd be looking for their lost friend.

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I already bought it.  I just need to watch it big_smile

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I like Picard.  I like Seven.  I like Q.  I really actually like most of the cast of Picard, both in Season One and Season Two.  I don't understand why it is what it is, though.  I get that they're kinda working through some of the sins of the past - his connection with the Borg and the Romulans and Q.  But I wonder if it would've been better as a non-serialized sequel to TNG.  Where maybe Picard and Riker go around the galaxy fixing mistakes they made.  Picard is close to death and, while everyone keeps talking about how great his life was, he's haunted by some of the things that didn't go right.  Or the way he'd planned.  Or ended up going south anyway.

You'd need a real TNG fan to work on this (certainly not me) but pick a handful of TNG episodes where Picard makes a difficult choice or gets overruled or things don't go the way he wants...and write sequels to those episodes.  Maybe two aliens were at war, and things have gotten worse.  Maybe he helped save a leader who's become a tyrant.  I don't remember enough minor episodes of TNG that I could come up with any real examples.

But that's kinda what I'd like to see out of Picard.  Small stories that are sequels to small stories.  What does it mean to make these life or death decisions for decades and then have to live with them?

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But I totally understand not being able to start Strange New Worlds until you've finished what came before it.

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Yeah I don't know why there's an obsession with serializing every episode.  It might've been harder with Picard, but I think Discovery could've easily done it in seasons 3 and 4.  Have an overarching storyline but still do some fun one-off episodes.

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That actually makes a ton of sense.

I loved the episode and was willing to forgive the super awkward ending to season 2 because of it.

I've also loved Strange New Worlds, which feels like both a throwback and a remake of TOS.  It think it's wonderfully done, wonderfully acted, and a lot of fun.  I will even forgive another TOS-era show when I feel like Trek should always be moving forward and never backwards. 

Strange New Worlds is the best of the new Trek, and I think the Orville is just as good.  In fact, I think they do a lot of the same things about as well.

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I've finished the first episode of Dexter: New Blood.  I thought it was interesting.  I would've liked a little more understanding of how he's kept himself "clean" for the last few years, but I thought it was a good reintroduction to the premise.  I'm interested to see more.  Looks like the first episode was the only one available on Amazon Prime but I'll pay the $12 to get the rest of the season.

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RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

how about the mixed sex couples are banned from having kids?

I think you're onto something here.  What if same-sex couples are the minority but the group in power?  And what if heterosexual couples have to give their children up for adoption upon request.  Essentially that the society views same-sex couples as being better parents/providers, and that hetero couples are some sort of genetic backdoor to keep the species alive?  Something biologically necessary but shameful and filthy?

You could also add a layer of socioeconomic metaphor and have hetero couples only be lower class people who are "forced" to be breeders to stay afloat? They get paid enough to survive (again, for the good of society), but it essentially marks them as untouchables in society.

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Lego_Sliders wrote:

- Axis powers win WW 2 (how was the U.S. divided among the powers?)

I did this in Earth 214, and I followed the same logic as the Man in the High Castle.  Germany got the East Coast and Japan got the West Coast. 

I think I also did something with the Zimmerman telegram so Mexico had control of something, but maybe that was another alt-world.

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I think I saw that it's on Amazon Prime?  I'll have to check that out.  I'll get it done, especially as many of the shows I'm currently watching are about to be over/on hiatus.

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I was also waiting until it was finished with season one to watch Naomi.  I guess I probably won't now.

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Hey, that will do! smile

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ireactions wrote:

It is 2:51 AM. I woke up in the middle of the night. I could not sleep. My mind consumed with the question: which laptop did Slider_Quinn21 buy?

Dell Inspiron 3501.  It would've been on the list you sent.  My wife and I like it so far.  Thank you for your help!

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That would be absolutely great.  I'm in.  Make it happen.

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That's interesting about the CW.  I think I'd heard (maybe here) that the CW wasn't profitable, but that makes sense.

I was thinking about it, and I think the Arrowverse should've ended with Crisis.  Go out with a huge multi-show crossover.  I know it wouldn't have been fair to some of the shows, but I think it would've felt right, especially for Oliver and Barry.

But where do we go from here?  As you said, I bet next season of the Flash will be its last.  I hope it can be a swan song for the whole Arrowverse.  I'd love to see the original Flash cast back, I'd love to see Stephen Amell return, and I'd love for them to find a way to wrap up Legends.  Maybe even Batwoman.  Stargirl is already on a different Earth, and Superman and Lois might as well be on another Earth.

I know it would cheapen the Flash's final season, but their best episodes have all been similarly Arrowverse-level arcs.  I'd love for the season to be less about Barry dealing with insecurities or Team Flash's side adventures and just a fun playground for the Arrowverse before it runs off into the distance.

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The problem is that the Democratic Party is a combination of three loosely-bound groups of people that don't really have all that much in common.  Someone in the Democratic Party needs to somehow both fully support things like Defund the Police (to keep progressives that like that) while also downplay it for people that are more in the middle who wouldn't support it.  They have to downplay Critical Race Theory as some kind of movement, but also not completely write off the ideas that are in it. 

How do you limit the "woke" stuff without alienating the people who are only here for the woke stuff?

The Republicans succeed because they don't have a platform.  They don't stand for anything of any substance.  They can just pick and choose the minor items from the left that most people think are too much and attack them. And when they get in power, they don't do a ton.

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The whole thing is a mess.  People are (rightfully) annoyed that they worked so hard to get Democrats the power they said they needed, and nothing is happening.  Trump is still in control of the Republican party, no one with any power has been punished for January 6, Covid is still a problem, and nothing has been done to make 2022 or 2024 more secure.  I'd love for Beto O'Rourke to win the governorship of Texas, but I have zero confidence that he'd ever make it to the governor's mansion even if he got enough votes.  Abbott would claim fraud and the Texas legislature would overturn it.

And then there's inflation and high gas prices and the war in Ukraine and all that stuff that makes things worse for everyone.

The fact remains that there's just not enough interest by career politicians in Washington to make any real change.  The media is too segregated for anyone to be on the same page.

I guess the only saving grace in my mind is that the Republicans haven't shown any ability/intention of doing anything either.  So they'll come in, inflation and gas prices won't get any better, and maybe Democrats can do better in 2024.  Either way, Biden shouldn't run.  In all seriousness, they need him to step back and let there be a wide-open primary with new blood.  No Biden, No Bernie, no Warren, no Hillary.  Because all those guys steal votes from better candidates on name recognition alone, and it ends up being the same boring races.

What the Democrats need is Obama.  A young, charismatic guy who can come out of nowhere and unite different segments of the party.  Biden is better than Trump but he's way too old to inspire anyone.  And just not being Trump won't be enough. 

I asked my friend what he'd prefer:

- Ron DeSantis destroys Trump in a primary and wins the presidency, ending Trump's political career forever
- Trump wins the primary and goes up against Biden, result of the election unknown

He picked Trump.  I do worry more about Trump 2.0 than Trump, but I also thought losing would push Trump out of power.  While his power has waned a tad, his control over the party hasn't.  And unless he dies before 2024, unless the Democrats make a move, I don't feel good about 2024.

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I think Discovery seasons 3 and 4 were a huge improvement on the first two seasons.  It's what they should've done in the first place.  New technology?  They're in the future!  Aliens have been redesigned?  They're in the future!  Things look slick and futuristic?  They're in the future!

It feels like a clean slate, much like TNG was to TOS.  And I think that's a great thing.  There's no canon to navigate, and they can chart their own path.

The only thing I haven't liked is the almost complete abandonment of Trek-style one-off episodes.  I typically love serialized television telling a story.  It would be fairly annoying when LOST would take a week off to tell a little one-off story and not advance it's primary story.  But I think Trek needs stuff like that.  It's great that they're using more modern storytelling, but come on, give us a planet in danger or two civilizations that need Federation support.  Especially after (SPOILER) at the end of season 3.  And even though (SPOILER) sets that up just as well in season 4, I think they could easily tell a collection of standalone episodes that tell a larger story about (SPOILER).

Picard is doing the same thing.  I want to see some new adventures with Starfleet.  All my favorite TNG/DS9/VOY characters are out there having adventures.  And now, instead of more fun reunions, we're getting a time travel story?  Hopefully Picard season 3 has more fun in that sandbox.

Also apparently Strange New Worlds is going to be more standalone adventures.  But I'm so bored of that era...

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There are tons of Flashes.  I don't even know if Barry Allen is the Flash that most people know.

Maybe they need to re-write The Flash movie to feature Barry dying and Wally or Bart or *anyone* takes his place.  I mean, heck, the Snyderverse and the Arrowverse are already tied.  Just cast Grant Gustin as Barry in future stuff.  He's probably cheaper and he certainly seems like less of a loose cannon.

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I liked Batwoman, but the corporate stuff drove me crazy.  I'm not even that business savvy, but it just felt like a writers' room that has no idea how the corporate world works.  I don't think the season even has to change that much if the Wayne CEO storyline isn't that big of a deal.  The Wayne building was abandoned at some point, and there's a serial killer that's regularly there.  Have Marquis take over the building some other way.  It was just really weird to me.

Flash has been a lot more fun this year.  After thinking it needed to wrap up, maybe it's good that it was renewed.  I think the new blood has helped.

Superman & Lois is still strong, but is it on Earth 1?  I know Diggle showed up, but that's been the only indication that it's even in the Arrowverse (let alone Earth 1).  There was a recent episode where Superman was away, and they kept showing news clips of accidents going unhandled and no other heroes responding.  Where's Kara?  Where's any of the Justice League?  Obviously, I'd love to see more connections, but considering the timeline also seems really off, maybe it's best for it to just be it's own world.  Pllus, the Diggle episode didn't even feel connected to the other Diggle episodes.

I loved the Legends season.  I'll be sad if it doesn't come back, but I feel like they'd find a way to wrap up the characters in other shows.  I hope (SPOILER), who showed up in the finale, stays in the universe either way.

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Hahah, that's fair.  I honestly don't really care about the answers.  Your head canon is better so let's go with yours.

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I don't think the movie ever states that they'll be returned to the present day.  You've obviously seen it more recently than me, but Strange specifically says that they'll be returned home to die since it's their destinies.  That's why Peter is trying to save them - what's unclear to me (and from what I've seen from a lot of people) is how removing their powers saves them.  If the process itself (being drawn into the MCU) saved people, then what was Peter even doing?

You could easily argue that Osborn and Octavius needed Peter's help because something was causing them to be evil.  But Max seemed to like his powers and was being cooperative.  Same with Dr. Connors (for the most part).  Marko didn't seem to care either way.

If you're right, maybe removing their powers keeps them from dying at *some point* because, with no powers, there's no chance they'' *eventually* put them in a position where they'll die via their Spider-Man.  But that doesn't seem to be what Strange is saying - Strange is saying that they need to be put back in their own timelines.  So whether or not Peter takes away their powers or rescues them from insanity, Strange is still intent on putting them back in the reality *and timeline* where they belong.

I think there's just a disconnect with the logic of the movie.  If Peter is wanting Strange to simply not kill them by putting them back where they left, then the powers part is an unrelated side mission.  If Strange is unwilling to alter the timeline of other universes, then Peter succeeding in his mission is irrelevant.  And I don't think that conflict is resolved.

I mean, your way is happier.  But if Gwen is resurrected (because she's saved from death and put back in the "present" of the Garfieldverse), would Harry be resurrected and returned to the present but just still be powered/maybe crazy?  Would Venom?  Would Captain Stacy?  Would Spider-Verse Peter?

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ireactions wrote:

Kind of frustrating that Willem Dafoe's Norman Osborn is hale, hearty and healthy while Emma Stone's Gwen Stacy remains dead and buried. There's no justice in this world!

Well, I think we're supposed to think that, but I'm so confused on the mechanism of how any of that worked.

So Goblin, Electro, and gang were brought to the MCU universe at the time of their deaths.  The Peters would've presumably been pulled out later because obviously Tobey couldn't be pulled from three different time periods (unless there were three Tobeys out there and we just met the oldest one).  So I guess it's assumed that Tobey/Andrew were pulled out of the 2025/2024/2021 (whatever year it's supposed to be) on their world.  So I guess the magic pulled people who knew Peter was Spider-Man from as late as possible.

But are they returned to their own time or returned to 2021/2024/2025?  Because if they do, a powerless Norman Osborn still gets impaled by a glider.  Octavius still drowns.  The Lizard and Electro still die.  I guess Sandman is fine.

Maybe it's like the Hulk's snap and they're just safely pulled back into the real world in the "future" - but I thought that was confusing.  I just don't understand how removing their powers would save them.  If they're all sent back to 2021/2024/2025, how would Andrew have even saved Gwen?  Sure, she would've been brought back since she knows Peter is Spider-Man, but how would they have "cured" her?  Do you even have to "cure" her to get her back or did everyone that knew Peter was Spider-Man get saved and pulled into the future?  Aunt May (MCU) knew Peter was Spider-Man and died...why wasn't she returned alive?

Maybe they get sent back to their own time, and it's up to Peter to stop the glider, rescue Otto from drowning, etc...but would 2002 Spider-Man have 2021/2024/2025 Peter's memories?  Did all of them keep their memories or did Strange wipe all that out?  Do Andrew and Tobey still remember that Tom is Spider-Man?

I think the spell was the worst part of the movie.  I think it doesn't make much sense, and it makes Strange look so incredibly stupid.  But at least it looks like he'll pay for it in the next movie.

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They opened some doors and I'm just genuinely curious what it meant.  If Andrew stopped pulling his punches, he's a murderer, right?  Or at least he's putting guys in the hospital.  I read some Superior Spider-Man, and I know Octavius brutalized some people because he didn't realize how strong he was.  So it'd be interesting to see a Spider-Man who may be a bit out of control and brutal.,  And then Tobey is probably in his 40s and still Spider-Man.  He has the back issue - I think that might be interesting in an Old Man Peter kind of way.

It opens the door for another movie with Tobey or Andrew.  I doubt we'd ever see it, but DC has multiple Batmen.  Raimi is back at Marvel.  I'd love to see it.  I'd even watch a Grindhouse-like double feature with Spider-Man 4 and the Amazing Spider-Man 3 where they do two mini-movies to wrap up their characters.

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Do you have a link?

My wife, mother, and I all wear our masks still (mostly due to my insistence, probably).  I still see masks down here in a pretty red part of Texas, which feels good.  But for the most part, it's looking like most people are back to normal.

It's very weird.  I'll get my 4th dose when it's time (and my wife asked me about getting her 3rd), but I'm genuinely curious how the more cautious among us get back to normal when it's time.  When it's officially an endemic, will we still mask?  When the deaths stop?  When cases drop enough?  Or will we still do it, either seasonally or all year?

I don't know how to feel about that.  Obviously, I would like to get back to normal at some point, but I also want to do the responsible thing for my family and myself.

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ireactions wrote:

It's interesting to contemplate what this film would have been if it had been made without access to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Foggy wouldn't have been in it. Dr. Strange wouldn't have been in it. It could have alluded to the existence of all the Avengers characters, but it could not have shown them or featured them in any plot developments. There was some hint that the story might have been every bounty hunter on Earth pursuing Spider-Man with Kraven the Hunter being the most successful. But the writers never had to write this version of the story.

I wonder if they would've gone the route of Madame Web or something like that.  I don't know who has the rights to the Beyonder, but maybe even try to make into a Secret Wars situation?

I'm glad you liked it.  It was so much fun, and I thought they hit most of the major character beats.  My only real complaints:

1. The Andrew saving MJ scene was perfect, but the CGI when Andrew lands is wonky as hell.  I don't know if they fixed it for the home video release, but I hope they did.  It looked terrible even the first time I saw it.

2. I get that we are only focused on Holland's Peter, but it would've been nice to see all three Spider-Men swinging back in their home dimensions with their scores.  I think it would've made for a perfect ending.  So perfect that I honestly can't believe they didn't do it.

3. Since we will almost certainly never see any continuation of their universes, I wish they'd been a bit bolder with what had happened post Spider-Man 3 and the Amazing Spider-Man 2.  Andrew talked about stopping pulling his punches and Tobey alluded to things working out for Mary Jane, but I'm curious what all happened to the characters since we last saw them.  It would've had to be a re-write of the Spider-Men talking about their adventures, but I would've liked a little more.

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All this info is awesome.  You're much more concise and to the point than Wikipedia ever is! smile

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I guess the Mr. Knight suit was popular, though?  It's being presented as the suit that people should be excited for.

I actually just started the Ellis run.  It became free on Comixology

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They're leaning heavily into the Mr. Knight aspect of Moon Knight in the promo materials.  I don't understand Moon Knight at all and the one big story I've read heavily features Mr. Knight....but don't you need to understand Moon Knight before you understand Mr. Knight?

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Peacemaker was AWESOME, and I can't believe they pulled off (SPOILERS).  James Gunn needs to do more stuff.

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I agree with all that.  I read the Fraction comics before I watched, and I don't know if that gave me any extra understanding.  I think everyone played their parts well, but I felt like Kingpin was a bit of a waste.  I'm sure he'll pop back up in the Echo show, but I would've liked more for the hype (even if, like Wandavision, the hype was mostly fan-driven).

Clint is a killer, and I don't think he's ever shied away from that (like Natasha hadn't).  I do wonder if there needs to be a reconciliation about that.  Maybe that's what Hawkeye season 2 can be about - Clint having to deal with the consequences of his actions and trying to steer Kate away from those.  So she can be more of a hero and less of a soldier?

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Side note - I read the Jeff Lemire run on Moon Knight in preparation for the new show.

I have no idea if I enjoyed it.  I have no idea if it was any good.  And I don't know if I know any more about Moon Knight than I did before.  I feel like I read chapters 114-118 of a 400 chapter book.  Maybe I did.

The characters were likeable and the art was good, though.

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Yeah they even have Wallis Day as Kate Kane.  But I agree that Javicia Leslie is good. 

The CEO stuff still bothers me.  If Wayne had three CEOs in a year (Kate, Ryan, and Marquis), all with no experience and all crazy young, the company would collapse.  I get that it's TV, but they clearly don't have any idea what a CEO is or what they do.  I think they should've just said "owner"

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Peacemaker is really fun and funny.  I'm really liking it.  I didn't think it was going to work after Suicide Squad (I thought Cena was good but that the character couldn't support a show), but it absolutely works.

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Anyone watching Peacemaker?  I think it's fantastic.

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I think Legends has been really good.  I really thought they were going to have Sarah become the new guardian of the timeline.  I think there would've been some poetry in that, but I guess I forgot about Ava.

Thawne's existance is so confusing.  How many of them are there, and why do they sometimes have different faces?

Batwoman is fine.  Superman and Lois has been solid so far.

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I though the first few episodes of Boba Fett were really boring.  The flashbacks weren't interesting, and I didn't think the main story was all that interesting.  Then the story shifted to the Mandalorian and Grogu and Luke and Ahsoka and I was fully on board.  I even found Cobb Vanth to be much more interesting than Boba.

I've never found Boba Fett to be cool or interesting, but I was hoping this show would turn me around.  It hasn't.  I wish they'd just done some sort of show like this instead of just a Boba Fett show - a Cobb Vanth episode, a Mandalorian episode, a Luke and Grogu episode, an Ahsoka episode.  And if they wanted to do a Boba episode, fine.  But the show is significantly better without Boba, and he's supposed to be the main character.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

That would be the consensus from right wingers. Not what's actually happening.

The real story is that at least several seats have flipped towards democrats and they have been winning elections left and right. Sadly, the MSM isn't covering this for some unknown reason as much as they should be.

The one thing the right wingers are amplifying are all their wins, even if miniscule, and that may be why it looks like a consensus.

And they are TERRIFIED of losing more seats to dems.

I hope you're right.  Of the toss up Senate races, only one (Pennsylvania) is currently Republican.  The rest (Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, maybe New Hampshire) are held by Democrats.  Maybe they have a shot somewhere like Wisconsin or Florida, but I'd be surprised.  They need to win all the toss ups, flip Pennsylvania, and hope to flip one of the other Republicans.  And that's how they just become Sinema/Manchin-proof.

I think it's dicey.  But maybe you're right and they can pull it off.

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I think the consensus thought is that the Democrats are going to lose both chambers of Congress.  Biden is not polling well, progressives feel lied to, Republican enthusiasm is higher than Democratic enthusiasm, and the president's party tends to lose at midterms.

I think there's plenty of time, and I think Democrats can maybe muster up enough "Democracy is on the Ballot" concern to get Democrats to the polls.  But I think the Breyer retirement is a signal that the Democrats don't feel good about 2022, just like the Barrett speed-confirmation was a signal that the Republicans didn't feel good about Trump in 2020.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

[Also, the energy footprint is massive and can cause a significant strain on the environment.

I know nothing about crypto.  Nothing.

But this is because it takes a lot of processing power, and that leads to environmental issues?  So something like email would technically have an energy footprint?

Not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely clueless about this stuff.

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I don't know if I've written about this here or not, but I have an idea for how I'd do James Bond.  They're going to redo it, and I can think of only three options:

1) Set in the 60s and tell fun, Roger Moore-like stories.  Gadgets and humor and fun.  None of Craig's seriousness.  Just a Raiders of the Lost Ark popcorn movie with James Bond every couple years.

2) Old Bond.  Like 60s or 70s.  Get some younger MI6 agents but Bond is more of a mentor.  We've seen "older" Bond, but we've never seen "I can't be in the field, but I can try to help".  We've never seen it but obviously it has a short shelf life.

3) My idea.  Which they can have for free if they ever see this.

A multimedia experience.  Since Amazon owns Bond now, you do a show on Amazon Prime with events in the movies.  You sign everyone for 8 10-episode seasons and 4 movies.  Two seasons.  Then a movie.  And you tell the story from beginning to end in multiple formats.  The show could feature flashbacks to Bond's youth, leading him from the death of his parents to him joining MI6 (like Arrow, taking him from the shipwreck to off the island).  Build up tension, build up character, and build up plot.  Then every two years, you ratchet it up to a movie.

The flashbacks can allow for the actor playing Bond to film the movies without having to take a ton of time away from the show.

We haven't seen anything like this, and Amazon is (fairly) uniquely suited to do it.  Like Game of Thrones, get mostly unknowns and lock them in for an epic that will take 10+ years to complete.

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ireactions wrote:

Although it's strange to me that you're only now reading the Timothy Zahn Thrawn stories when you have previously made mention of the Luuke clone that features in the conclusion of the Thrawn trilogy.

That's just something I picked up from the pop culture ether, I guess.

Glad to know I'm not crazy, though.  I'm reading TMNT comics and Superior Spider-Man at the same time, and I kinda groan when I have to switch over to Thrawn.  Which sucks because I was interested in the Disney era character and assumed the original would be better.

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Haha, your money is no good here.  I'll get it done smile

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Yeah.  There's a somewhat-reasonable Republican that I follow (we were connected via a non-political common interest) that I *long since* muted but still follow because I like to know the hot button issues that are making people like him mad.  And he's somewhat reasonable so it's not yelling at clouds.  But he and people like him are constantly yelling about voter ID.  If the Democrats offered it in the form they want, it'll get done.  No Republican would be able to survive voting down a bill that hardcoded voter ID (again, as long as the Democrats' ask is reasonable).

And, along with it, at least *something* that Democrats could use to secure elections would pass.

To me, it depends on how dire you think the situation is.  Would you be willing to take one minor step back to potentially fix elections for the foreseeable future?  Or we can just trust that, even with the stuff Republican state legislatures are doing, the system will hold.

We can get voter IDs to everyone.  It might be hard or take Stacey Abrams-like activism in every state.  But we can get it done.  It's already the law a lot of places.  In my opinion, it's a very simple price to pay

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Oh I know.  I'm just saying voter ID is a hot button issue for Republicans.  It's trending on twitter right now.  If you add voter ID to a bill, Republican voters will make sure it passes as long as there isn't anything overwhelmingly negative or socialist in it.  You have to give them what you want and make the rest of the bill clean and on topic.

But these days, no one thinks about the compromise even though, again, this is an issue that both sides say they want.  So do it.  And once the election is secure, you can worry about getting people IDs.  But if the election isn't secure, who cares about anything else?  You could get 100% of the vote and they'll legally overturn it.

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I'm reading the Grand Admiral Thrawn original trilogy in comic book form.  I've heard my whole life how great these books are and how great the character is.  Now that I've seen/read all the Disney Canon Thrawn stuff, I decided to read the original.

I'm 1/3 done.  It's boring and slow and doing nothing for me.  Is it the conversion to comic book form?  Does it get better?  Or is this very overrated?

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Hahahaha, that's awesome.

Let me see what I can do.

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pilight wrote:

Pretty sure it's the Democrats who don't want to require voter ID, as such requirements tend to discriminate against minorities and the poor

Correct.  But if the choice is "leave things as they are and hope enough people show up and everything goes the way it's supposed to" or "work your ass off to get everyone a voter ID in an election that will be systematically fair otherwise", why would you select the first one?

If you end the filibuster and you don't hold the House or the Senate, any legislation you pass is dead before 2024.  If you don't offer the Republicans anything, you won't get the votes and you'll have wasted your opportunity.

Find the best worst plan and pass it.  Or you better be right that the system will hold.

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ireactions wrote:

The issue is that fascist alt-right Republicans don't want "election integrity." They want to use procedural methods to declare themselves the winner of any election regardless of how many votes they get. They don't want voter ID because if everyone could vote, they'd lose.

I don't think 74 million Americans are alt-right or fascist just because they voted for Trump.  People could vote for Trump for any number of reasons, and I don't think it's all intertwined.  If you're very wealthy, voting for Trump would make you money.  You could hate the guy and still vote for him if it benefits you.

And while the Republican Party might not want voter ID, Republicans do.  So if the Democrats put out a bill for that includes the voter ID that Republicans want, I think the Republican Party would have to go along with it.  If the Republican Party doesn't want it, it'd be calling their bluff and it would make it very difficult to call voter BS ever again.

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They have to vote for some things.  They voted for the "punishments for defunding the police" bill because it was political.  But the Democrats voted for it too because it put in stone that all Democratic senators are against defunding the police. 

You have to find the right issue.  The Democrats have toyed around with national voter ID, but they're not serious about it.  Find the voter ID that most Republicans would be happy with, title the bill the "Federal Voter ID Act", and you hammer Fox News, OAN, and Newsmax with ads for it.  And most importantly, don't fill it with any nonsense.  If getting rid of the filibuster is popular enough with voters, do that.  If it's protection against state legislatures, do that.  Whatever you need to do so that Ted Cruz isn't on Tucker Carlson every night complaining about how the bill helps illegal immigrants.  That's what was the issue with the Infrastructure bill.  It had too much stuff that Republicans hate.  Get what you want and give them what they want.  You don't have to be fully happy with it.

Because this isn't about getting a win for Democrats, it's about getting a win for the Constitution.  And if that means doing a bill that both sides reluctantly have to swallow, then do it.  If it can safeguard elections without ending the filibuster, then do it.

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I've been disappointed in Biden in a lot of ways.  And the Democrats in general.  And I think, especially among younger voters, they're going to get punished.  What was the point of winning the White House and winning both Georgia Senate seats if nothing got done?  Sure, infrastructure got done, but while everyone likes infrastructure, no one loves infrastructure.  None of the hot-button stuff that people wanted has gotten done, and I think cynical young voters aren't going to have the same level of engagement.

I listened to a months-old Five Thirty Eight politics podcast that was essentially just an interview with Adam Schiff where Schiff had all these concerns about democracy.  The interviewer kept trying to get him to say what he's doing about it, and Schiff didn't have any answer besides passing HR1.  HR1 was written before 2020 and wouldn't solve all the problems.  Plus, it's entirely unpassable in this environment.  They needed to throw out HR1 and write a bill that actually fixed the problems that Trump was trying to exploit.

And I think it's easier than the Democrats are making it out to be.  It would just take compromise on their side, and they're already compromising on their side.  The Democrats are essentially saying that if the Republicans are going to make it harder to vote, they need to work harder to get people out to vote.  Well, okay...but you aren't getting anything out of that.  This needs to be codified, and I think there's a fairly simple way to do it.

Republican voters want election integrity.  Democrats want election integrity.  They just don't agree on what that means or who's doing it.  I think that's fairly simple to fix, though.  I think the Democrats needed to offer up the right compromise.  What I would've done is written a law that provides some sort of independent oversight to state elections - states get to choose how elections are done, but they don't get to choose who won.  I'd also do what I could to end partisan gerrymandering.

How would I pass it?  I'd give in on Voter ID.  It's a huge hot-button issue for Republicans that I think they'd have to vote for.  And instead of spending four years trying to get people excited to vote, I'd spend four years getting everyone voter IDs, which I think would've been easier and harder to exploit.  And instead of getting nothing in return, I'd either prevent Trump loyalists from messing with elections, and/or I'd get rid of partisan gerrymandering.  And if that doesn't pass, I'd see what I could get for national voter ID. 

I think this was an issue that they could've easily solved.  It would've been a win for everyone, just like when Cory Booker was so excited to vote for a rebuke to Defund the Police.  People agree on this, and I think it would've been really hard to get 40 Republican senators to vote against Voter ID, as long as the rest of the bill wasn't full of insanity. 

Plus, it wouldn't require ending the filibuster, which I think would be the most temporary of solutions.  You can end the filibuster, pass HR1, and there's a good chance that a Republican congress dismantles it before 2024.  It wouldn't matter.

Pass it legitimately, truly secure elections, and figure out how to work within the new lines.  I think in four years you could get voter IDs to everyone in the country, and if you do it right, maybe they never expire.  So it'd be a lot of work from 2021-2024 and then you're set for the most part.

Democrats don't know how to get out of their own way.

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Ha, I'll convince her.  And its still months before she'd be eligible for a booster anyway.  And like I've said before, we're low risk since we very rarely go anywhere.

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I've had several friends who all got the booster and all had very mild side effects.  My worst was a sore arm - I *might've* had a headache, but it might've been more my brain expecting a headache and making it feel like I had a really dull one.  No nausea, no chills, nothing else.  Now I got my shot strategically in the late morning so maybe I slept through the side effects, but I didn't wake up drenched in sweat like I did with shot two.

My wife got her shot while breastfeeding and, since it can cause lymph nodes to swell, it caused her to develop mastitis.  So she's hesitant to get another shot because of how rough her experience was.  Hopefully stories like mine will encourage her and others to get the booster.

Regarding the possible end of the pandemic, I agree and am hopeful.  I have a friend turning 40 this week and I'm going to skip his party.  I told my wife that if we hunker down for a couple months (our biggest risk will be our 2-year-old at daycare), we could start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.  At least here in the US, we had a million cases the other day.  We've gotta be moving to some form of herd immunity / conversion from pandemic to endemic.

And once we're there, I've read that we might not even need the vaccines - that it might end up being lesser than the flu / more like a cold, and only the high-risk people would need a yearly booster.  That would be nice.  At the same time, if the science recommends a quarterly booster forever, I'm fine with that too.  My experience with the booster took 30 minutes from door to door, and that included 15 minutes sitting around to see if anything happened.

pilight wrote:

Many of the reboots have at least some of the old cast.  The Sex And The City reboot has most the stars of the original.  Dexter: New Blood has Michal C Hall.  Cobra Kai has Ralph Macchio.  Gossip Girl, Saved By The Bell, Mighty Ducks: Game Changers, ICarly, and more have returning cast members from their age-old source material.

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To be fair, those shows/movies were big hits and had massive audiences. :-)

I think we need to remember that Sliders was a cult hit that was cancelled after almost every season.  It has very little pop culture relevance as a whole - there's some - as we point out a lot here, there's a bunch of references in Sci-Fi.  But the reason that there hasn't been a Sliders reboot/sequel is that the studio sees no value in it.  If there was an audience, they'd make it.

Now, it did have enough juice to have a Kickstart or Die video made about it, and it was the number one viewed video they did (over Wings, Darkwing Duck, Dinosaurs, and Family Matters) but there wasn't enough juice then either.

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A book (and a movie but less so) that I like as inspiration is The Martian.  It shows what humans are capable of if we work together.  The book is a little more realistic (if I recall correctly) because the Chinese agree to help in exchange for something from the US/NASA.  In the movie (again, if I'm remembering correctly), they just do it in the spirit of humanity.

“If a hiker gets lost in the mountains, people will coordinate a search. If a train crashes, people will line up to give blood. If an earthquake levels a city, people all over the world will send emergency supplies. This is so fundamentally human that it's found in every culture without exception. Yes, there are assholes who just don't care, but they're massively outnumbered by the people who do.” - Andy Weir

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The negative reviews I've seen are all about it being too heavy-handed.  But most of the heavy-handed stuff has real-world equivalents so it's not like it's 100% fictional.  And I think McKay didn't want to do a subtle satire - he wanted to cram something down your throat because he's tired of it.

I could also see people upset with the politics, but Adam McKay refused to say whether or not the president was Republican or Democrat, saying "I don't think either party has much to be proud about over the last 40 years".  I think it's clear that he's lampooning Trump and his team, but I don't think the Democrats are exempt from following their own interests and/or ignoring an opportunity to turn a crisis into a moneymaking venture.  While I think Biden is much better than Trump, I've been underwhelmed by what he's done on a number of issues.

So while I doubt President Orlean in the film would be a Democrat, I don't know if the end result would've been any different.  McKay seems to think there's plenty of room for bad decisions in both parties.

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Most series these days do not rely on a "draw" anymore.  Jerry was the kid from Stand By Me and JRD was the guy from Raiders of the Lost Ark, when Sliders premiered.  Most streaming series don't have a single actor you have heard of before.

Yeah and that's why I don't think it makes sense for *any* of the cast to return.  If Universal sees value in the Sliders brand following all the multiverse stuff, they should just do a straight reboot.  Hire a bunch of no name actors and don't bog the writing staff with a bunch of prior continuity.  And they can fill the cast with younger actors to try and draw in a younger audience instead of a cast that was young-ish 25 years ago.  You do need a mentor figure if you're going to follow the original formula, but there's no reason to hire Jerry unless the see value in Jerry.  You could just as easily hire Kelsey Grammar, who was allegedly a fan of the original series, would be a bigger draw, and probably makes for a better Arturo.

Shoehorning in cameos from the ghostbusters makes sense, but I think even those-level cameos would be a distraction for any audience that might check it out.

I'd love to get a passing the torch movie with the original cast, or at least an Afterlife-style sequel with cameos.  But, honestly, it doesn't make as much sense.  Trying to sell it as something new (a la Battlestar Galactica) with an all-new cast makes the most sense.