ireactions wrote:I don't believe any of this. Part of it: this isn't someone with evidence; it's just someone on social media looking at a displeasing result and making broad claims and assumptions without any actual proof.
Reviewing the actual plausibility of their ideas: It's technically possible to insert code into voting machines across numerous counties; it's technically possible to shift votes by 8 to 11 percent; it's technically possible to use bomb threats to interfere with recounts. But how plausible or likely is it?
Given that election systems go through extensive testing and source code reviews and certification processes with secondary paper trails, it is unlikely that this kind of malicious code could go undetected before deployment or during and after an election. A vote shift of 8 to 11 percent would be significant enough to be detectable through basic statistic results and create numerical anomalies that would cause it to be flagged. The idea that bomb threats would interfere with recounts is... incoherently convoluted. A bomb threat would bring increased scrutiny, not less.
This person furthermore claims that these hacks are "simple, stupid, easy", and that is nonsense. Such a hack is complex, demanding, and extremely challenging. Their past examples -- hacking point of sale systems -- is completely different from hacking voting machines. Point of sale systems use standard hardware and software like Windows and Linux with networked platforms and very common exploit points. Election machines use proprietary and specialized software with limited networks and often standalone operation with totally different exploits.
This hacker's claim that credit card machines are comparable to voting machines is false and absurd.
I can't claim for a fact there was no fraud. But this hacker claims that such a hack would be "simple, stupid" and "easy" and it wouldn't. They have completely generalized one area of expertise (consumer security) to an entirely different field (elections).
I guess it's fine to share these things because we should discuss them, but random people on social media offering theories as fact is not in any way factual. And certainly, anyone with a theory like this should send it off to be checked, if only to be reviewed, if only to see if there's actual evidence of it that could allow the election to be contested.
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I don't mean to insult anyone, but theories aren't facts. Just because something is potentially true doesn't mean it is.
A theory I might offer: people sometimes gravitate to easy answers (hacking and conspiracy theory) over a more complex answer that forces them to re-examine their preconceptions and assumptions about human behaviour, that demands a more critical view of people they may have idolize, that calls for a deeper and often darker exploration of why humans might vote for progressive measures but conservative candidates.
I did try and use hedge phrases at least...sigh...anyway...
Here are a few facts...and purely based on the facts, let's review a few...
Just a few of them:
Recorded audio released of him saying "grab 'em by the pussy...when you're rich they let you do it..."
Made fun of a disabled reporter at a rally
Among many many other infractions...
Lest We Forget the Horrors: A Catalog of Trump’s Worst Cruelties, Collusions, Corruptions, and Crimes
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the … es-1-1-056
Revealed classified nuclear sub information
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald … rcna119173
Trump is a 34-time convicted felon who would do anything to avoid prison at this point.
Trump has 6 failed businesses that have filed for bankruptcy... https://www.latimes.com/business/story/ … iled-deals
Trump owes nearly $2 billion in debt and it's growing... https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/31/politics … bof-digvid
Leading up to the election...
Trump’s Crowds Are Dwindling as His Campaign Winds Down
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/us/p … rowds.html
Trump holds a Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden, mimicking the rally from MSG in 1939:
Trump's MSG rally draws comparisons to 1939 Pro-Nazi rally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMZFjJy0Ks
Trump says "...get out and vote, just this time. You won't have to do it anymore... In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good you're not going to have to vote."
Rachel Maddow points out that Trump says, not only just "you won't have to vote again," but that "you don't have to vote this time."
You can hear Trump say it if you don't believe me in the below video:
"My instruction, we don't need the votes, we have so many votes..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of9OP_a6MNg
Then....
Trump in contact with Putin (per Bob Woodward of Woodward and Bernstein):
Trump and Putin have talked as many as 7 times since 2021, new book claims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMZFjJy0Ks
Musk in contact with Putin:
Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin
https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/musk-p … s-37e1c187
Putin asked Elon Musk not to activate Starlink Over Taiwan:
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-reported … an-1974733
Then:
Joe Rogan said Elon Musk created a new App and he knew 4 hours before that Trump was going to win (this is not speculation it's a video of Joe Rogan saying exactly this):
https://x.com/VideoMixtape_/status/1855077881376129054
Don't you think that it's at all strange that he would say that if the fix wasn't already in?
Don't you think that both Musk and Trump being in contact with Putin is at all strange?
Not trying to persuade you...because I know I can't change your mind at this point. But just in case you didn't see the above. My worldview is the facts...we don't know what happened with the election yet. And I continue to maintain this point. I only say that it's prudent we question it and investigate it in light of major security concerns happening along with the fact that Trump cannot be trusted. Ever.
I won't post about this topic anymore. I need to rest my brain from thinking about it all the time.
I need to watch a movie. Something that's not this.....and something to get my mind off the nightmare that's to come...
