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I really like all the vortexes. I don't think they *match* exactly, but I also don't feel they should or that they can. You are attempting to recreate a special effect that was created on a 90s videotape effects suite. This effect had colour gradients and animation and transparencies, but Lego is generally in solid colours and still blocks, so it's necessary to adapt the vortex to this other medium.

Vortex 1.0 looks like the Season 3 vortex with the water-puddle effect. The blue-green shade isn't quite a match for the silver of Season 3, but the richer colour is  better suited to lego. Vortex 2.0 is intriguing as the vortex about to open, but it looks a bit like a machine rather than an energy construct.

Vortex 3.0 looks like a very good match for the Season 1 vortex: it's a bubble, it's translucent at the edges. The inner blue effect is gentle and not quite a match for the white-blue transparency of the Season 1 vortex, but it's the right choice for Lego.    

Vortex 4.0 looks good, unlike the onscreen Season 4 vortex. The Season 4 vortex looked like a blob that didn't give a strong impression of a tunnel whereas your vortex shape provides a tunnel effect. The green of Season 4 is missing, but given Lego's limitations, that makes sense.

I don't really recognize the yellow core of the Kromagg vortex, but the red perimeter is very appealing.

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I will never understand why they added a 'green' swirl to the vortex in seasons four and five. The vortex was always made of 'cold' colors (blue, silver, gray). If you wanted a green vortex, you should just create one...

It looks to me like the Season 4 vortex was a victim of shrinkflation.

The Season 1 vortex had flowing lines of energy that indicated the specific direction of the vortex and had a transparency at the edges that required blending into and warping the image of the surroundings. The silver glow effect required multiple layers of composition and animation for both the perimeter of the vortex and the internal body as well as rendering the vortex at different angles. The Season 1 vortex was effectively a rippling hole in the skin of reality, often resembling a bubble that was partially bursting to allow entry.

The Season 2 vortex, however, reduced the transparency ripple at the perimeter severely while the silver light was now filled in with blue. This appeared to be, in some ways, a cost or time saving measure. It was no longer necessary to blend the vortex into the shot with lens distortion effects because the transparency was reduced and the interior of the vortex was now filled with blue light rather than a transparent silver. The Season 2 vortex was less an aberration in reality and more a doorway to wonder.

The Season 3 vortex benefitted from a higher special effects allocation: the animation of the water-whirlpool effect of the vortex was far more intricate and detailed than the first two seasons. The silver colour of Season 1 was restored and and a thin level of transparent edge distortion. Also, the lines of energy charging into the vortex took on a more nebulous but varied and denser; it looked less like straight lines and more like flowing water.

So what happened with the Season 4 vortex? Like the Season 2 vortex, they simplified it. They simplified the perimeter: the transparent edge effect was only present on specific shots, so there was now no effort to blend the vortex into the surrounding shot.

They simplified the body of the animation: rather than lines of energy or a mass of flowing water, it was now a rotating spiral of cloudy energy composed of grainy dots, an effect that, if nothing else, was captured well by the grainy format of the 16mm film of the Sci-Fi Channel years.

And with so little animation and a vaguely defined body texture and no transparency blending, the vortex in silver-blue would have just looked like a blurry coin or a puddle on the video, so to fill in an otherwise blank void, they made it a hypersaturated blue and green designed to contrast against the shots because they no longer had the time, money or inclination to blend and coordinate the vortex to match the shots.

It's rather sad because the vortex is a vital part of SLIDERS' iconography: the timer, the basement, the wise Professor, the funny soul singer, the sweet shorthaired girl, the flannel clad boy genius, and the rippling, glowing tear in reality that is a gateway to adventure. But by Season 4, the gateway looked less like a tunnel and more like somebody spilled blueberry Gatorade on the lens.

I am a Gatorade Zero person myself.

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I can't believe there's a Barney Hill project and Tracy Torme isn't involved in it.

I'm also surprised that Tracy Torme isn't running a reboot of MEN IN BLACK or that he never wrote for THE X-FILES or FRINGE.

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Oh my God, please do not tell me you're still obsessed with some comic book series from the late 90s. Now, returning to my obsession with some TV show from the late 90s:

I think part of the distinction between DOOM PATROL and SLIDERS is the kind of drugs at play here. I am not the person to impose sobriety on anyone; while I haven't been inebriated since... I think 2011? I never find fault with people for using chemicals as they see fit; I myself take a lot of vitamins, minerals, amino acids, herbal supplements, fiber supplements and fish oils for energy, vision and gastrointestinal maintenance.

That said, there are some drugs that are ultimately debilitating and designed to suppress life and biological function and David Peckinpah was addicted to them and they killed him. SLIDERS was being made on cocaine and heroin, drugs that, in their function and usage by Peckinpah, were antithetical to life.

In contrast, Grant Morrison's drugs of choice were about mind expansion and perspective: they took marijuana, mushrooms, acid and other hallucinogens, but while physical pleasure was a part of it, it was also about stepping outside empirical reality and exploring perceptual and emotional reality which they then put into their writing. In contrast, David Peckinpah's use of drugs was to take him away from writing.

DOOM PATROL benefitted from a somewhat the psychedelic perspective that Morrison brought to it whereas SLIDERS did not benefit from Peckinpah numbing himself to his grief and tragedy. In addition, I don't believe that Morrison's hallucinogens were physically addictive whereas Peckinpah lost control of his body and his mind and his life and his TV show.

I guess it's fair to say that Grant Morrison warped DOOM PATROL as much as David Peckinpah twisted SLIDERS, but Grant Morrison arguably brought new life to DOOM PATROL that continues to this day whereas Peckinpah killed SLIDERS and buried it deep. After that, however, Peckinpah killed himself, so I am disinclined to hold a grudge at this point.

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It has been 25 years since DEADLY SECRETS was released. I think we can say that SLIDERS' comic book series is cancelled by the official bankruptcy of Acclaim Comics.

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It's interesting because DOOM PATROL was, like SLIDERS, an underperforming property. DC Comics, like FOX, cancelled it, but it had a following and DOOM PATROL, like SLIDERS, kept finding its way back into the publishing/broadcasting schedule. And DC decided to make DOOM PATROL a more conventional superhero action series just like FOX decided to make SLIDERS a more conventional sci-fi action series.

The results were mediocre at best, and then DC and FOX decided to take a strange turn with DOOM PATROL and SLIDERS into body horror, sexual savagery, an extremely in-depth (and confusing) mythology that was initiated by one writer and then overwritten and rewritten by a subsequent writer and then another writer after that.

Both DOOM PATROL and SLIDERS became taken over by creators who were deeply invested in drug culture and writing DOOM PATROL and SLIDERS as a response to their use of drugs. Both DOOM PATROL and SLIDERS became frightening, upsetting, confusing, disorientingly out of sync with their previous incarnations and deeply disturbing.

However, DOOM PATROL was great and SLIDERS was a disaster. I will try to figure out why later.

Well, former comic book editor Valerie D'Orazio has written some horrible, horrible stories about how she was harassed and threatened as a woman working in comic book publishing and administration. D'Orazio worked at Acclaim Comics during the SLIDERS licensing period and right up to Acclaim's shutdown, and... D'Orazio had absolutely nothing bad to say about the company.

D'Orazio is filled with fiery outrage and loathing for DC Comics and for a stint at Marvel, but with Acclaim, she notes that her boyfriend at the time was cheating on her and that she overindulged at the open bar at an Acclaim party and doesn't remember what happened next.

When D'Orazio got over her hangover and staggered into work, she was forced to attend an office meeting with every staff member present where Acclaim's chief, Fabian Nicieza, proceeded to lecture the entire office on being careful with alcohol consumption, looking out for each other, and ensuring that everyone came out of a party and made it home safely. He deliberately told the entire team to be more responsible and made sure not to single any one person out, giving everyone dignity while laying out their duty.

Acclaim is the only publisher to come out of D'Orazio's memoir looking like a good company of good people. I don't think Acclaim Comics failed; I think their parent company failed them.

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I guess you could say that writer Grant Morrison destroyed the Doom Patrol, but it could be argued that he destroyed it to save it. There would be no DOOM PATROL television show if Morrison hadn't changed the series from a lighthearted, somewhat peculiar superhero adventure into psychological body horror.

The comics where DOOM PATROL took a turn into darker territory and tore down its characters are regarded as the high point of the series with very high quality scripts and artwork. I don't think anyone would consider the script or direction of, say, "The Breeder", to reflect any quality.

I'm personally a bit mixed on DOOM PATROL's shift into darkness. Morrison's reinvention has stood the test of time with most subsequent writers building on his foundation and with the DOOM PATROL television series (and their brief appearance in TITANS) drawing on Morrison's version of the team. Maybe he did the right thing even if I personally take issue with it.

The original Doom Patrol debuted in MY GREATEST ADVENTURE from writer-creator Arnold Drake. Drake was a great writer who presented the Doom Patrol as goodhearted, optimistic misfits: a racecar driver with a huge heart trapped in a robot body (Robotman). A fighter pilot who thrived on physical adventure trapped in a form of "negative" energy (Negative Man). A movie star actress in a body that now stretched and contorted into grotesque forms (Elasti-Girl). All three of them had been caught in bizarre accidents (a car crash, a flight crash, exposure to toxic chemicals) that had warped their bodies into these new forms.

All three of them had been recruited by a heroic genius in a wheelchair (the Chief) to form the Doom Patrol superhero team. All three of them fighting other outcasts who hadn't coped with their situation as well as the Doom Patrol.

Drake wrote great stories and created incredible villains. But MY GREATEST ADVENTURE, later DOOM PATROL, didn't really set the world on fire with sales and didn't become a cultural phenomenon. After a decent run of 41 issues, the 1968 issue of DOOM PATROL #121 killed the team off in a heroic sacrifice to save a small village.

Why did DOOM PATROL fail where X-MEN succeeded? Well, X-MEN didn't actually succeed in its 1963 run either! X-MEN limped to seven years with the original run of Xavier, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel and Beast; it wasn't until the 1975 revival with Angel and Beast swapped out for Wolverine, Storm and Nightcrawler that the X-Men took off in sales. The teen X-Men were too bland; the older and more conflicted newcomers were more compelling.

DOOM PATROL was a good book, but it was arguably not as good as it could have been. Arnold Drake wrote the Doom Patrol as winning, positive personalities with occasional flashes of the body horror and despair suggested by Robotman, Negative Man and Elasti-Woman's situations. The Chief was a reliable, brilliant hero; everyone seemed mostly happy. DOOM PATROL didn't make itself as unique as its characters and concept suggested.

DOOM PATROL was often a very straightforward superhero series, albeit an extremely charismatic, memorable, inventive and fun read. It was probably as good as it could be in a time when storytelling in comics had to be kept simple for readers who might not be able to get every issue, for broad newsstand distribution, for DC's audience being children and young teenagers. The 1968 finale seemed to be the end of the line.

In 1977, writer Paul Kupperberg sought to revive DOOM PATROL. Kupperberg used stories in the SHOWCASE anthology title to reveal that Robotman had survived the explosion that had supposedly killed the team back in 1968. Kupperberg created a new team of original characters joining Robotman to form a new Doom Patrol... and it wasn't great. Kupperberg wrote this new Doom Patrol as a completely generic superhero team run by superheroine Celsius, the previously unknown wife of the Chief.

Due to delays and low sales, DC didn't approve and print a Kupperberg DOOM PATROL series until 1987. The Doom Patrol under Kupperberg were basically the Avengers or a lower profile Justice League; they had none of the original Doom Patrol's eccentricity and all the generic aspects of the team had been amplified.

Kupperberg later blogged about his revival, saying he had changed Doom Patrol to be more like any other superhero team, realizing only later that he'd taken away what made them unique. In all fairness, original creator Arnold Drake often wrote Doom Patrol like any other superhero team with small nods to their peculiarities; Kupperberg took a property that was 80 percent AVENGERS and 20 percent TWIN PEAKS and made it 100 percent AVENGERS. Kupperberg wrote that he met Arnold Drake long after his revival and that he apologized to Drake.

Drake shrugged it off, patted Kupperberg on the shoulder and assured Kupperberg all was forgiven.

The original Doom Patrol had been interesting but occasionally too bland; Kupperberg had made Doom completely bland. Neither version really landed in the public consciousness and Doom Patrol was likely to fade away except writer Grant Morrison took over from Kupperberg starting with #19 of the revival. Kupperberg killed off his original characters to give Morrison a clean slate.

Morrison brought the Chief and Negative Man back to join Robotman but left Elasti-Girl dead. Morrison introduced the character of Crazy Jane, a woman with 64 separate personalities with each having a separate superpower. Morrison changed the cheery tone of the original Chief/Robotman/Negative Man team to all three being more depressed and bleak, especially with Crazy Jane in the mix. Morrison highlighted how the Doom Patrol were troubled, damaged, broken people whose damage sometimes manifested as superpowers useful for investigating 'weird' crime and bizarre supervillains who were engineering the collapse of reality itself.

Morrison also changed the Chief significantly. Arnold Drake's Chief had once been a warm father figure and a genius. He could be bad tempered and impatient when under stress, but he was ultimately a good guy. He was Temporal Flux. He was Professor Arturo. He was Dad. With Morrison, the Chief remained a genius, but he was now distant and cold to Robotman, strangely indifferent to the previous version of the Doom Patrol being killed, and his interest in the Doom Patrol's enemies seemed more about co-opting their powers rather than stopping them from harm. Arnold Drake's Chief was focused on using the Doom Patrol to save lives; Morrison's Chief didn't seem to care.

This change in character was, however, justified by the events of CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS the previous year which had destroyed and rebuilt the DC Universe and its history in a new timeline; this new Chief did not necessarily have the same history or character as the original.

Morrison's final arc revealed: the Chief had secretly engineered the race car accident, plane crash and toxic exposure that had turned Cliff Steele into Robotman, Larry Trainor into Negative Man and Rita Farr into Elasti-Girl. He had deliberately set out to mutilate them, curious to know what kind of "freaks" these formerly photogenic, popular figures would become. He had always despised them, regarded them as shallow and narcissistic.

Morrison also revealed that the Chief had also arranged for the 1968 explosion that had killed off the entire team (until they were brought back to life); the Chief had gotten bored with the Doom Patrol, only to become annoyed when the ex-wife he'd abandoned took over his team and legacy and he used her death to regain control. The Chief only allowed the Doom Patrol to learn the truth just when the Chief was about to unleash a nanobot apocalypse upon Earth that would cause Doom Patrol-style mutations across the entire human race.

The arc ended with the Doom Patrol defeating the Chief and decapitating him.

The blatant retcons of the Chief are upsetting to me because I loved the original Chief. The revisions to the Doom Patrol's origins are, to me, offensive and completely out of sync with Arnold Drake's original DOOM PATROL issues. But... Drake actually retconned himself frequently, writing continuity inserts where Robotman had a period of violent instability before the Chief stablized his mind, inserts that didn't fit into Drake's own previous issues.

Later stories have largely maintained Morrison's run. The subsequent Rachel Pollock run kept the Chief's decapitated head alive and offered him a chance for redemption before he met with a final death, concluding this iteration of DOOM PATROL in 1995.

In the 2001, there was another DOOM PATROL revival from the brilliant John Arcudi where Robotman joined a reality TV show of people trying to use the Doom Patrol team name as the brand had fallen out of use; this fun comedy series did a few sequels to the Morrison/Pollock stories. The sales were not great, but it was a highly enjoyable story with a strong ending and an epilogue to the Morrison/Pollock era.

In 2004, DOOM PATROL was rebooted entirely after another CRISIS-continuity restart, and writer-artist John Byrne had the Chief recruit Robotman, Negative Man and Elasti-Girl for the 'first' time. Most people hate the Byrne run. I thought it was okay. A subsequent CRISIS, however, restored the original continuity of the series in an interesting way: the latest CRISIS causes the rebooted Chief, Robotman, Negative Man and Elasti-Girl suddenly find memories of all their previous adventures (and deaths) returning to them.

The Doom Patrol next appeared in Geoff Johns' TITANS as guest-stars, declaring that their history from the Morrison/Pollock run had been reinstated; the entire timeline, including the reboot, were merged into a single history (although some areas remained vague). Robotman, Negative Man and Elasti-Girl had forgiven the Chief for causing their origin stories; it was explained that the Chief (who is somehow alive after his death in DOOM PATROL #95) found remnants of Elast-Girl's elastic form after the 1968 explosion and was able to "regrow" her back to wholeness. He presented saving Elasti-Girl as his apology to the team.

In 2009, the excellent Keith Giffen had a 22 issue run of DOOM PATROL with the rebooted-memory-restored team. Giffen told terrific 'weird-superhero' stories and made lavish use of the Morrison/Pollock stories with the Chief remaining a manipulative and dangerous leader. There were also two issues devoted to the odd continuity situation: Robotman recalls his entire history with the team and his joy when Elasti-Girl finally turned up alive.

Unfortunately, Giffen's run on DOOM PATROL was cut short at #22 before he could ever explain how the Chief went from being a decapitated head who died to a (relatively) restored human body again between 1995 and 2004.

The New 52 reboot in 2011 seemed to once again erase the entire Doom Patrol and restart them. The new Doom Patrol appeared in Geoff Johns' JUSTICE LEAGUE series with the Chief leading the Kupperberg team -- with the Kupperberg characters being killed off in their first appearance. They were treated as cannon fodder in the JUSTICE LEAGUE: FOREVER EVIL crossover. However, their appearance ended with the Chief seeking a new team, presumably Robotman, Negative Man and Elasti-Girl who showed up later in JUSTICE LEAGUE again.

Then we come to the Gerard Way (UMBRELLA ACADEMY)  revival of DOOM PATROL which debuted after the DC REBIRTH story altered DC continuity again where the pre-New 52 continuity starts merging with the New 52 history. The Gerard Way incarnation of DOOM PATROL follows this and is set after the events of the Keith Giffen run while folding in the John-stories as recent events. However, there have been some hints that Gerard Way's series is set in a different continuity from other DC books.

Ultimately, Grant Morrison changing DOOM PATROL from lighthearted adventure to dark body horror has, fairly or unfairly, stood the test of time.

Making the Chief a villain was... a peculiar turn, to put it mildly. In some ways, it was the equivalent of revealing that Professor Arturo deliberately got the sliders lost in the universe by sabotaging Quinn's timer and then faked his own death, then allied himself with the Kromaggs as their spy, then arranged for Wade to be sent to a Kromagg rape camp, then hired Oberon Geiger to trap Quinn in Mallory's body just because he found Quinn annoying.

However, Morrison's storylines and arcs were extremely well-received and have come to define the Doom Patrol. Why is that?

First, it's doubtful that the DC-Vertigo indie comics readership who thrilled to Morrison's writing in 1989 had read the original Arnold Drake issues from from 26 years in the past at a time when reprints and trade paperbacks of underperforming comics were hard to find.

Second: before Morrison, the Doom Patrol concept wasn't reaching its full potential; its more optimistic stories were also blander and too close to other superheroes. Morrison emphasized all the things that made the Doom Patrol different, creating a version of the Doom Patrol that doubled down on the most original asepcts of the original concept.

Morrison's Doom Patrol could actually be distinct from other superhero teams like the X-Men or the Avengers or the Fantastic Four or the Legends of Tomorrow or Team Flash or Team Supergirl. This is the version that has been adapted and sold to television. This is the version ongoing in the Gerard Way series. In contrast, the original Doom Patrol was perhaps not sufficiently distinct from its competitors. It could be argued that Morrison had to break the Doom Patrol in order to save it.

Personally, I don't mind the idea of putting the Doom Patrol in darker stories and circumstances, but my preference is to leave the characters alone. We wouldn't turn Peter Parker (Spider-Man) into a mime who takes a vow of silence; his defining characteristic is his verbal humour. We wouldn't turn Bruce Wayne (Batman) into a deadly gunslinger. (Well. We wouldn't do those things permanently.) But it was apparently okay to turn the Chief from a heroic figure who believed that extraordinary personalities emerged from extraordinary adversity into a twisted supervillain who believed in mutilating people to satisfy his curiosity.

To be fair, Peter Parker and Bruce Wayne never had sales so low that their comics got cancelled. It could be argued that Arnold Drake's Chief was not memorable enough to endure. Timothy Dalton wouldn't have been interested in playing Arnold Drake's Chief; he wanted to play Grant Morrison's Chief. That said, the TV show has found a middle ground for Morrison's Chief: he has done terrible and downright evil things, but he did them to protect one person rather than out of morbid and uncaring curiosity.

I accept that Morrison's new version of the Chief and the Doom Patrol's history were justified by CRISIS changing continuity. And I accept that Morrison's Doom Patrol team was an unforgettable masterpiece whereas Arnold Drake's Doom Patrol team was... written professionally and enjoyable to read, but would probably be forgotten if Morrison hadn't revised it. In contrast, David Peckinpah broke SLIDERS just to break it.

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There have been numerous allegations of Marvel engaging in plagiarism of the Doom Patrol to create X-Men, but the evidence for this has been uncertain.

Doom Patrol debuted in MY GREATEST ADVENTURE in June 1963, UNCANNY X-MEN was first released in September of the same year. But given the lead-in time, X-MEN would have been conceived, written and drawn starting in June 1963 for a three month lead-in; it's unlikely that Marvel could have read MY GREATEST ADVENTURE and immediately come up with characters and designs and written scripts and produced UNCANNY X-MEN #1 by September; the X-Men would have been in development at least a few months before Doom Patrol first appeared.

The similarities are likely because Doom Patrol creator Arnold Drake and X-Men scripter Stan Lee had similar mindsets: they gravitated to writing about outcasts, misfits and oddballs like the Chief and Professor Xavier; they weren't as enthusiastic about square-jawed, matinee movie handsome stars like Superman. Rather than choose a young, handsome leader, they (separately) chose a man with a disability.

DOOM PATROL has some truly crazy continuity as a comic book series, arguably as tangled and near-incomprehensible as SLIDERS. X-MEN is messy too in its publishing history, but it's periodically smoothed out its bumps. DOOM PATROL, on the other hand, went from a relatively straightforward series about four awkward people in impossible situations (like SLIDERS) to a really tangled, psychologically troubled, self-loathing series.

It's noticeable to me that Professor Xavier, despite being given a dark side, has ultimately been presented as a hero; even when he's had bouts of manipulative and horrific behaviour, X-MEN has in the end redeemed him and cast Xavier's villainy as the character being written incorrectly or Xavier having additional motivations that were heroic. In contrast, the Chief of DOOM PATROL has gone from being a heroic figure to a corrupt, cruel, uncaring, twisted figure of scornful contempt towards everyone and everything.

The difference, however, is that DOOM PATROL has been lauded and admired for its skillful stories of psychological depth as the characters became more self-destructive and dysfunctional whereas SLIDERS is mocked for its incompetence as the show became more and more depressing.

I think you're referring to the QUANTUM SLIDE pitches: https://earthprime.com/sliders-comics/lost-comics/

Acclaim Comics fell apart in 1998 and ceased publication, making a brief return a year later only to cease once more. As far as I can tell, Acclaim had across the board distribution issues and were having trouble getting their books into comic shops. In addition, their parent company, video game manufacturer Acclaim Entertainment, were having serious financial difficulties in getting paid for their video games from licensors who'd commissioned their services. The entire company went down; I don't think they specifically cast aside SLIDERS.

That said, their stewardship of the popularity was... peculiar. For whatever reason, they hired superhero veterans to write and draw a property that was really more suited to DC-Vertigo style writing and artwork. They had deadlines that required some decent comic book writers to hack out scripts without any real familiarity with the series and no time to properly watch and absorb the existing episodes. They nonsensically had two excellent artists for NARCOTICA with two totally contradictory styles draw opposite halves of one story. This may have more to do with the haste and rushed licensing demands from Universal and less to do with Acclaim Comics themselves.

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I'm behind on STARGIRL, but I had some thoughts on Season 1 -- specifically the Brainwave Jr. arc. This redemption arc for Henry Jr. never made a ton of sense to me in terms of plotting, but it made me *feel* for him so I accepted it and also -- I felt it was more likely that I had failed to understand Geoff Johns' writing. I felt it less likely that Johns had failed to convey Henry Jr.'s arc properly. Johns is an excellent writer (and I will insist to my dying day that his work on the JUSTICE LEAGUE movie was great even though only I, Slider_Quinn21 and Informant liked it).

The thing that confused me about Henry Jr.'s arc: I didn't understand why he sided with the Justice Society. I didn't understand why Brainwave/Henry Sr.'s betrayal didn't break Henry Jr. but instead inspired him to help the JSA in his final moments.

Henry Jr.'s got a whole superior, survival of the fittest attitude going on; his father is a cold and cruel sociopath who torments him with his inadequacy and is secretly a telepathic supervillain.

Then Henry Jr. manifests telepathic powers and, in a hospital, he overhears the most horrible thoughts: children hoping their parents will die soon, health care workers being dismissive, his housekeeper thinking Henry Sr. deserves to die. When Courtney/Stargirl approaches him, trying to understand why Henry Jr. is a bully, why Henry Jr. showed Yolanda's topless photos to his friends, why Henry Jr. mistreats anyone he can get away with mistreating. He was like this before he had his powers.

Henry Jr.:
You think I'm a jerk? Well, trust me -- everyone else is worse. If my dad hurt anyone, he had a reason to.

People are monsters. Deep down, they're ugly. And greedy. And hateful. And twisted.

That's the truth.

Courtney:
Life isn't that black and white, Henry. People can be bad, but people can be good, too. And kind and compassionate.

Maybe some of the thoughts you read -- maybe some of them are bad. I mean, sometimes we're hurting or we're afraid and we think awful, awful things.

Have you tried looking a little deeper? I bet you'd find something better. Behind the pain and the fear, it's all about love.

People want to love, and be loved. I think you do, too... the way your father treats you... and you're still at his side. I don't know what it must've been like growing up with him as a father.

I can't imagine what he did to you.

Henry Jr. responds by threatening her life. Courtney retreats. But in the next episode, Henry Jr. reaches out to Courtney. His father has amnesia and his personality has rewound by 10 years. The savage, rote cruelty of Brainwave is gone. There's an openness. A blankness.

Henry Jr. believes that his father's grief over the death of his wife and Henry Jr.'s mother twisted Henry Sr., warped him into Brainwave. Henry Jr. also learns that he and Courtney are cousins and Courtney hugs him joyfully. Henry Jr. has hope. He's offered acceptance. He's given a chance. He uses it to help the JSA and tell Yolanda that he wishes she had his powers, that she could read his mind and know his regret. He feels remorse, he wants to change, he hopes his father will want to change too.

But Henry Jr.'s hopes are dashed at the climax: Brainwave reveals that he murdered his own wife, he killed Henry Jr.'s mother, because he saw her as a weakness. Brainwave tells Henry to join him; Henry refuses and Brainwave prepares to kill him.

Then Henry dies fighting for the JSA and... when I first watched it, I didn't understand it. Brainwave, Henry's father, wasn't good; even with his mind rewound 10 years, he was still a murderer. So why did Henry change and why did Henry feel validated as opposed to lost and betrayed?

Rewatching Season 1 again, I came to realize: Henry holds his father in contempt. Brainwave is dismissive, condescending, vicious and scornful, and Henry treats others in a similar way. Henry believes, even before he's verbalized it, that everyone on Earth is a monster. But Courtney invites him to consider the possibility that the monstrosity he sees is only people when they're scared and hurt and lost and alone. Courtney asks Henry to consider that his own crimes against humanity are because his father made him feel small and weak and worthless and that he adopted the same attitude to others.

So when Henry Jr. asks Brainwave to consider that the Injustice Society warped his value system and changed him, Henry isn't looking for Brainwave to validate his hope at all. Henry was a bully given a second chance by Courtney and now Henry is offering his father that same chance. When his father rejects him, Henry isn't broken; Courtney had already healed him and Henry takes comfort in knowing that he was the best of what Courtney thought of him instead of the worst of what Yolanda -- and his father -- believed of him.

"People are good," says Henry Jr., believing the best of himself at last and at the end of his life. "Don't let this change your mind," he tells Courtney, not wanting to be the last questionable person whom Courtney will believe in.

Johns did a good job. I wonder if it should have been clearer... or maybe I should have just paid more attention.

Congratulations to all QUANTUM LEAP fans! I'm very happy for all of you.

And what if in Season 2, Ben looks up an old friend?

What if Ben goes to see someone he knows from Berkeley University? What if Ben's friend is a former classmate who washed out of the advanced physics program? What is this friend is a college dropout now in his late forties who fixes computers for minimum wage at the local Doppler Computers. a former boy genius turned overqualified big box staffer?

What if Ben's friend is a dreamer-turned-cynic who was dented and diminished by his failure to create antigravity back in the 90s? What if Ben's friend is a computer technician in a bad place who needs Ben to inspire him to take a leap of faith and slide into a new dimension of possibilities for the life he could still build?

What if... ?

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Another reason I prefer wet to dry brining: my mother has some kidney issues, so I can't rub salt all over a turkey.

Yes, the chicken broth I soaked my turkey in has about 40,000 mg of sodium. However, the turkey only actually absorbs about 0.57 percent of that, so it's 228 mg of sodium distributed across a 15 pound turkey. Also, despite the low sodium content, the turkey absorbs enough of the flavour to taste lightly salted and it also opens the meat up to absorb garlic, mustard, pepper, basil, oregano, lemon and duck fat flavour.

However, in the spirit of making these advantages more accessible -- I guess you could inject a turkey with chicken broth throughout the body and let it sit for 2.5 hours per pound to absorb. That would be more salt staying in the bird than I'd want for my family meal, but others may have higher tolerance for sodium.

You could follow up with injecting fat into the bird anywhere from 12 - 2 hours before roasting. The fat doesn't have to be duck: it could be olive oil, butter (probably diluted with water to stay liquid, avocado oil -- it just has to be liquified and room temperature so that it's injectable and doesn't cook the turkey before it's in the oven.

I actually ran out of duck fat when injecting last night and had to make up the difference with bold olive oil mixed with minced garlic, poured into the injector. Probably fine, it just won't have the distinctive duck flavour of a fully duck fat infused turkey.

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I'm preparing an early Christmas dinner because my sister-in-law has to fly to England this year to visit her biological family. My turkey methods have evolved since we last talked. To summarize: turkeys are too big for ovens to cook evenly, so a turkey has to be severely overcooked to ensure that all portions are heated beyond what a microbial load can survive. Turkey is also a lean, low-fat bird. As a result, turkey is often dry.

One solution is to soak the turkey in a saltwater solution for about one hour per pound, absorbing moisture to make up for what's lost. I soak the turkey in room temperature chicken broth and put it in the fridge. This ensures the meat is moist throughout and avoids the dried-out texture of extended oven time. Some people prefer dry brining because it requires less time and can draw out the internal moisture of the turkey.

My take on it: Butterball turkeys are what I'm working with and they have been injected with a solution of salt and water before freezing. Upon defrosting, most of that solution and much of the internal moisture seems to drip out of the turkey. Dry brining might be great for a fresh turkey, but I doubt it's as effective for a frozen and thawed bird.

In addition, wet brining seems to do a better job of softening the meat because the muscle and protein absorb the saltwater and then the sodium and chloride ions in the water separate, pulling apart the meat fibers for a tenderized texture. I tend to brine in chicken broth.

However, I've come to see brining as just one part of pre-roasting turkey prep. Water is great, but the turkey is still a very lean, low fat bird that, even if softened up, is still a low fat, low flavour bird. Brining is actually not very effective at making the turkey absorb any flavour beyond salt. My method after taking the turkey out of the brine is to now fill a meat injector syringe with minced garlic, pepper, mustard, basil, oregano and liquid duck fat, and then inject this fluid into the meat and drumsticks of the turkey. This adds more fat and flavour to the bird within the meat itself.

I apply the dry seasoning on the exterior of the turkey after that along with some mixing powder for crispness and then I stuff the turkey with onions and lemons to add more moisture, and I think the combination of brining for moisture and injection for fat and flavour is probably the winning combination here.

It's possible that another method might be to directly inject brining solution into the bird followed by injecting fat and seasoning, but injections of saltwater might not reach every area of the bird and evapourate. In contrast, injected fat, even if not all-encompassing, will expand and spread throughout the turkey while it heats in the oven.

However, since some of the absorbed brine drips out of the turkey, I also inject that back into the turkey.

Injection also means that basting is no longer necessary. Basting has proven to be a liability because opening the oven every half hour to drip fat and chicken stock on the turkey causes the oven to lose heat and extends the cooking time. However, a turkey injected with fat and leftover brine will effectively baste itself in the oven and it means the turkey cooks faster; I can roast tonight's turkey in 4.5 hours instead of 6.5.

The best way to cook a turkey, however, might be to debone it and stuff it with a small and deboned high fat duck to make up for the lack of fat and avoid the need to overcook since removing the skeletal structures would compact the volume area to cook.

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This information is courtesy of EarthPrime.com.

In pre-production for Season 5, Bill Dial contacted Tracy Torme to talk SLIDERS and asked Torme what would make him happy with Season 5. Torme thought SLIDERS was well-past making him happy -- but he told Dial that he would like to see Conrad Bennish Jr. return, if only to get Torme's friend, actor Jason Gaffney, a guest appearance job or two.

This happened during the period when Dial was under the impression that Jerry O'Connell would do six episodes of Season 5.

Dial devised outlines for a five episode arc that would feature Jason Gaffney playing various Bennish doubles and the Bennish from the Pilot.

The outline had Quinn and Colin together for the first five episodes, engaged in random sliding. There would also be a framing sequence to each of these five episodes, featuring the ongoing FBI investigation into Quinn's disappearance with a new FBI agent, Melissa Hunter, having taken over the case and retaining Conrad Bennish Jr. as a consultant.

The presence of the Bennish character would make it clear: the Kromagg invasion of Earth in "Genesis" was staged on a different parallel Earth from the one in the Pilot. The first five episodes of Season 6 would feature Bennish on Earth Prime with Melissa and then the sliders would encounter a Bennish double on the parallel Earth of the week.

In the fifth episode, the opening sequence on Earth Prime would have Melissa triggering a vortex and vanishing into it, leaving Bennish behind by accident.

Meanwhile, the sliders would make it to Kromagg Prime only for Quinn (and only Quinn) to discover that Colin is a Kromagg sleeper agent, a clone of Quinn programmed to infiltrate the team. Quinn would learn that "Genesis" and his brother and his whole Kromagg Prime backstory was a Kromagg trick, and then get separated from Rembrandt and Maggie and disappear into a vortex, destination unknown. Rembrandt, Maggie and Colin would slide away, resuming random sliding and Colin keeping his true nature secret. (This would have been a rewrite of Marc Scott Zicree's "Revelations" story intended for the Season 4 finale.)

I believe the idea was that the fifth episode would have a final scene back on Earth Prime in which Bennish is in Quinn's basement, unable to retrieve Melissa -- and a vortex appears and Quinn emerges. This would establish that Quinn had finally made it home.

In the sixth episode, Rembrandt, Maggie and Colin would encounter Melissa. At this point, Rembrandt and Maggie would discover Colin's villainy and they would abandon him, sliding out with Melissa.

The Rembrandt/Maggie/Melissa team would be the sliders for the remainder of Season 5. In the Season 5 finale, Rembrandt would discover that Melissa came from the real Earth Prime and Quinn would return to defeat the Kromaggs once and for all and end the series.

This was thrown out when Jerry O'Connell went from offering to do six episodes to none.

Bill Dial and Keith Damron started over and while they initially planned to keep Bennish in the storyline, they decided that it was too expensive to fly Jason Gaffney from Vancouver to Los Angeles, especially when the Quinn-centric plot that Bennish had been a part of would not be possible in Jerry's absence.

In 1999, Temporal Flux reported that a return for Bennish had been planned and then abandoned. In a fan chat, Season 5 SLIDERS story editor Keith Damron denied that Bennish had ever been in any planned storylines for Season 5 and said that Temporal Flux and others were liars.

While I have no strong feelings about "others", Damron insulted Temporal Flux's honour and in this moment, Keith Damron became my mortal enemy.

Why did Damron lie about it? I'll refer to my previous theory: that Keith Damron hated SLIDERS, only cared for it as
far as the expense account for his free lunches, and he felt triggered when the unpaid fan enthusiast demonstrated more passion for Damron's show than Damron himself. Damron felt diminished in his job and he went on the attack.

Anyway. In 2009, Tracy Torme confirmed that Bennish had indeed been in the original Season 5 outline as conveyed in faxes and memos sent to him by Bill Dial and Keith Damron.

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On a more pertinent note: Mangold says that the supposed 'leak' from a "test screening" is a lie because there have been no test screenings of the film at this writing.

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Even if there were a leak, Cosmic Book News wouldn't be the ones to catch it. No one employed in comics, film or television would go to Cosmic Book News with actual news on INDIANA JONES or DC or Marvel. The only 'sources' Cosmic Book News has tend to be disgruntled, former employees attacking their former employers. Cosmic Book News is not a serious news operation.

There is absolutely a history of refuted leaks that were true. It is one of the greatest ironies that in SLIDERS, script editor Keith Damron was considered an unreliable source while Temporal Flux, a fan with no official status, is the authority on the series.

However, in this specific instance, we have an inflammatory Cosmic Book News where the 'news' is only ever a series of rants about women in sci-fi/fantasy, a review site that called the CAPTAIN MARVEL movie an abomination because Samuel L. Jackson did dishes (as opposed to criticizing, say, the inability to convey scale and space and position and geography in the action sequences). And then we have James Mangold.

Mangold has made questionable claims about his own films before: he said that LOGAN was a sequel to DAYS OF THE FUTURE PAST and APOCALYPSE when the movie itself appears to be set in an alternate timeline from every previous X-MEN movie. The reality is that movies change during filming and reshoot; a supposition that is untrue when made might end up being true after pickups and edits and rewriting.

Elsewhere: Andrew Garfield lied about not being in SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME; James Marsden lied about not being in X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST.

In this case, however: Mangold is working on INDIANA JONES AND THE DIAL OF DESTINY with Harrison Ford, who has declared, "No one else is going to be Indiana Jones. When I'm gone, he's gone." Those are his wishes and Ford was not contractually required to sign onto a fifth film; he would have only done so if the direction met with his requirements. And yes, things can change during filming and yes, a woman taking on the name and hat might technically fall within Ford's restrictions.

But Mangold has flat out declared that the Cosmic Book News 'leak' is not a leak, just supposition from set photos. Cosmic Book News has never landed any actual leaks. Also, I'd point out that Lucasfilm isn't going to produce a movie that makes it impossible to do prequels with younger actors playing Indiana Jones at different ages as they did on TV in the 90s.

Again, in the face of all this, all of us in SLIDERS fandom turn our memories back to 1998 - 1999 when Keith Damron called Brian Hartigan and TF liars for saying that a Conrad Bennish Jr. arc had ever been conceived and scripted for Season 5 of SLIDERS; the fans called Damron a shill and a fraud even though he was the employed script editor and the fans trusted Temporal Flux as a trustworthy news source (or at least I did). History has vindicated TF.

But I would argue that SLIDERS was a unique moment in history, a moment where the project in question was run by people who actively despised SLIDERS, people who had gone out of their way to fire anyone who in any way loved SLIDERS. This contempt for the show led to fury towards the fans.

I think the lies from Keith Damron were an attack because Brian Hartigan and TF's love for SLIDERS made Damron feel inferior; Damron was an employee putting very little thought into SLIDERS. Brian Hartigan and Temporal Flux were doing a better job stewarding SLIDERS' legacy and they did it it unpaid. It made Damron feel small and he acted small.

He was a small person with a small and empty heart. I hope he's changed since then. I'm sure he has. We all do.

In the case of Mangold, Garfield and Marsden telling untruths -- or, let's say it outright, lying -- the intent was truehearted. Mangold genuinely thought his story would be a sequel to the original timeline, but story development drifted from the set universe into an alternate timeline. Garfield didn't want to spoil the surprise of his return to Spider-Man. Marsden didn't want to spoil the surprise of Scott Summers' resurrection and a happy ending.

James Mangold loves Wolverine and did right by Wolverine. Mangold is not a tragic man acting out his grief on a national stage like David Peckinpah, he is not an embittered and needy soul like Bill Dial, he is not doing film and TV in order to expense his lunches like Keith Damron.

Mangold only works on projects where he has the same level passion that Temporal Flux has for SLIDERS. I am confident that Mangold will show Henry Jones Jr. the same love, respect, interest and effort that he showed James Howlett Jr. aka Weapon X aka Agent 10 aka Captain Terror aka Patch aka Kuzuri aka Logan aka... I can't do this all day.

Anyway. If I'm wrong, I will reimburse Temporal Flux for his ticket and be back here afterwards to concede that I was mistaken.

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Director James Mangold has refuted the entire rumour report linked to above.
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jame … 235450127/

I think it's time some of you found another film and TV news site, one that actually has sources as opposed to making up points of grievance based on a general hatred of anything adjacent to women. A website with articles written with some control of the English language employed to convey information as opposed to absurd, subliterate, paranoid ranting driven by gender bias. A website that doesn't seriously and portentously present a source with the name of "DoomCock".

Try denofgeek.com

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Cosmic Book News is not a news source. It's just a whining platform for aggrieved, Caucasian men offended that a woman is running Lucasfilm.

Also, the original male creators of Indiana Jones have proven highly adept at ruining their own franchise with INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL, so I hardly think a new team would be worse. The new team is actually pretty impressive: James Mangold made the very strong WOLVERINE and the critically acclaimed LOGAN and the very fun FORD VS. FERARRI.

Mangold's a good director and George Lucas, who lost his touch for filmmaking somewhere around 1988, is uninvolved. I think this should be fine. Also, TF was dismayed that Indiana Jones wasn't fighting Nazis in CRYSTAL SKULL and Mangold and his screenwriters have bent over backwards to rustle up some 60s-era Nazis for Indy to fight this time. DIAL OF DESTINY is clearly being made to please TF's sensibilities if not TF himself.

But, if I am wrong, I will send TF a copy of Brad Linaweaver's SLIDERS pilot novelization and a box of matches so that he can burn it.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

It's funny.  LOST was a huge success primarily because of the mysteries.  WHY IS THERE A POLAR BEAR?  WHO IS THIS FRENCH WOMAN?  WHO ARE THE OTHERS?  ARE THEY DEAD?  WHAT IS THE MONSTER?

And to me, all of that was cool.  I desperately wanted to know who the Others were.  I loved learning about Danielle and other castaways on the Island.  I wanted to know what made it special and whether the world was still out there.

But Lindelof was very clear from the beginning through the structure of the show that this was about people.  It's why he devotes 50% his airtime *every week* to these people.  And not just Jack/Kate/Sawyer/Locke - to each of the main characters.  He didn't just want random nameless people going through something extraordinary (like, for example, The Walking Dead).  He wanted you to know each one of these characters and how they got to be the people they are now.  That when Jack or Boone or even Nikki made a decision, you understood how those decisions were forged.

It was plot-heavy but it was extremely character heavy.  You got to learn mysteries about the people every week, even if the Island plot was Hurley building a golf course on the Island or finding a Dharma van.

A point of intrigue for me: Damon Lindelof's writing is based on a technique explained by JJ Abrams as The Mystery Box technique.

Abrams explained that as a little boy, he bought a 'mystery magic box' from a magic store that continued some random magic trick. Abrams never opened the box; imagining what might be inside was far more compelling than actually finding out.

Lindelof never wrote for Abrams' ALIAS, but ALIAS seems to be founded on this formula as much as LOST. ALIAS, a spy-fi action show, is supposedly about the mysteries of Milo Rambaldi, a fifteenth century alchemist whose blueprints and scientific formulae add up to some unknown, world-changing endgame of cataclysmic or utopian promise. By the middle of Season 2, it becomes clear: the writers don't know what the Rambaldi endgame is and don't care. Rambaldi is a plot device to create MacGuffin plot devices. ALIAS wasn't about Rambaldi; ALIAS was about Sydney and Jack and their twisted and troubled daughter-father relationship as they chased down Rambaldi artifacts.

Abrams's Mystery Box seems to have been an inspiration to Lindelof.

That said, any storytelling tool can be misapplied. The Mystery Box was a serious problem on THE X-FILES where Chris Carter was obsessed with what was inside the Box and built his show around brief glimpses of what was within -- but Carter kept changing his mind as to what was inside. The alien colonization of Earth became the Spartan Virus depopulation of Earth which became the colonization of space which became a cloning project which became... something about Scully getting pregnant again. And THE X-FILES was just as incoherent with character arcs. Even in Season 11, THE X-FILES couldn't figure out if Mulder and Scully were a couple or not from episode to episode. THE X-FILES failed to satisfy with both its mysteries and its characters.

The Mystery Box approach has been both misused and well-used for SLIDERS fanfic. From 2000 to about 2005, numerous wonderful fans wrote heartfelt and passionate Season 6 stories, tearing open the Mystery Box of SLIDERS to finally explain and resolve all the mysteries of the series.

Rembrandt finds the original Professor who helps split the Quinns followed by retrieving Colin followed by rescuing Wade followed by revealing that the Earth Prime in "Genesis" was not the real home Earth followed by revealing that Colin is a clone with a sleeper personality programmed by the Kromaggs followed by defeating the Kromaggs followed by giving Maggie, Colin, Mallory and Diana a happy ending followed by the original sliders getting home.

The reaction to these stories was often mixed even though these stories boasted some wonderful scenes. The contrivances to make all of the above happen would be unconvincing. The contents of this version of SLIDERS' Mystery Box turned out to be... a set of plot convolutions so unwieldy and random that even a resurrected Ernest Hemingway would fail to wring a strong story from them. There's no shame in struggling to craft a tale out of these fragments.

Starting from 2009 or so, however, we started to see a Mystery Box approach to Season 6 fanfic where the authors clearly preferred to keep Box closed, to delay opening it for as long as possible, to keep the Box at a distance when it was finally opened.

These 2009 and onward fanfics start with Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo already alive and well when the story begins. The Mystery Box holds an answer to the questions: how are they alive? How has the Kromagg invasion somehow been undone? How did they find each other again?

These latter-era fanfics present the opening of the SLIDERS Mystery Box as both tantalizing and unwanted. What if the contents of the Box are insufficent to answer our questions? What if there is a terrible price to be paid for Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo coming back from the dead?

In many ways, withholding the explanation for how the sliders are alive is a tacit admission; the writers of these 2009-onward SLIDERS stories *know* that the explanation won't be that great. The Mystery Box contents can never live up to the speculation around what's inside.

But the true secret of the Mystery Box here might be: the fanfic readers and writers don't actually care how the original sliders are back. They just want to feel it and believe in it. They want to see Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo deal with the trauma of being merged-erased, sent to a rape camp, losing every friend, and dying; they want to see them survive and endure.

These 2009-onward writers frontload their stories with the reunion of Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo. By the time the Box gets opened, it's just a formality; it doesn't matter how the sliders came back. They are already back. And it's a good thing that it doesn't matter because the plot devices to bring the sliders back to life aren't any better than the ones in the pre-2009 fanfics.

This Season 6 Mystery Box for SLIDERS is actually more potent when unopened. Yes, SLIDERS fans may be very concerned with the Kromagg-Human War and the secrets of Colin Mallory and the fate of Logan St. Clair. But the story that will speak to these fans most deeply is the one where Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo are reunited and restored. SLIDERS fans on some level know that the Kromagg-Human War and Dr. Geiger and whatnot are only the bridge they have to cross in order to get back to Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo -- and if offered them a zipline to swing right over this bridge, the zipline is preferable.

If your fanfic focuses on the rationale for how Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo back, if you open the Mystery Box and lay it out piece by piece and point by point, the reader will only see the forced logic and strained contrivances; their disbelief will keep the story and characters at a remove.

But if you start your fanfic by making the reader happy to see Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo together again, if the characters and emotions feel real, then the reader will tolerate the rationale for the resurrections being strained and somewhat unconvincing and contrived.

I think this goes back to Slider_Quinn21's point: when a story leaves the audience satisfied with the characters' journeys, then it's alright for the Mystery Box content to be disjointed, contradictory, unresolved, and not even that interesting and often out of focus. The audience will forgive that. Or at least Slider_Quinn21 will. Again, I have not finished LOST, but my sense from Slider_Quinn21 is that even if the Island wasn't ever explained, the character arcs were satisfying.

Can SLIDERS learn anything from COBRA KAI, the highly successful revival of THE KARATE KID movies from 1984, 1986, 1989 and 1994?

Well, there is one thing that COBRA KAI does that I really like: COBRA KAI is extremely respectful and constructive will all aspects of THE KARATE KID movies. COBRA KAI has the Karate Kid, Daniel, express his longing and love for his now-deceased mentor, Mr. Miyagi, and has Daniel passing on the lessons his teacher taught him but with Daniel's own spin on his old learnings. COBRA KAI declares that all the story elements and characters of the original KARATE KID and its sequel are significant, meaningful events that are remembered with warmth and appreciation but also with some humour and the ability to poke fun.

But COBRA KAI is also respectful towards the parts of the KARATE KID franchise that are mocked and dismissed by fans. THE KARATE KID III is one of the most-loathed films ever made and described by its own director as "a terrible movie and a poor imitation of the first one."  And yet... COBRA KAI has made a meal out of it over the last four seasons of the show.

In the second season, COBRA KAI delves into KK3's clumsy storyline and has Daniel, the title Karate Kid, describe the plot of KK3 where he joined the bullies' karate dojo and unleashed a darkness in himself of which he is deeply ashamed. This plot point was, even to longtime fans, shocking; Daniel was so out of character in KK3 that most fans had blocked it out of their memory, but COBRA KAI even showed clips from KK3 to set this unfortunate part of Daniel's story in stone and mine it for characterization.

In KK3, the antagonist John Kreese received some brief references to his war trauma in Vietnam that were presented in a crass, cartoonish fashion where Kreese was simply an insane bully. COBRA KAI's third season also delved into this in flashbacks, showing Kreese's origins as a sweet and honourable kid whose Vietnam captivity and the betrayal of a commanding officer warped him into the twisted, cruel man who terrorized Daniel in the original KARATE KID movies. COBRA KAI took a very silly element of KARATE KID 3 and made it meaningful.

In KK3, the other antagonist was Terry Silver, a ridiculously thin character; Terry was a fortysomething Vietnam vet turned wealthy industrialist who inexplicably spent weeks and tens of millions of dollars trying to humiliate Daniel in a karate tournament in a convoluted and labyrinth plan, each step of which Terry carried out with bizarrely hysterical giggling. COBRA KAI brought Terry back in the fourth season and Terry expressed deep embarrassment over his obsessive need to humiliate a teenager back in the 80s; he confessed that he'd been traumatized by Vietnam and had been high on cocaine during the entire third movie.

However, Terry's buried demons soon resurface into a more disturbing form and he becomes the central antagonist for COBRA KAI's fifth season. Once again, COBRA KAI took an incredibly silly and clumsily written aspect of the KARATE KID mythos and took it seriously, infusing it with thought, awareness, tragedy and charm.

One other much maligned aspect of KARATE KID III was the character of Mike Barnes, a karate tournament contestant whose fighting style consisted of screaming deranged and racist insults at Daniel and his Karate Kid teacher. Barnes reappears in the fifth season of COBRA KAI and the moment he runs into Daniel, Barnes apologizes for his behaviour and for his terrible words and actions, saying that for his unsportsmanlike conduct, he received a lifetime ban from karate and lost his purpose in life which he realized he'd brought upon himself; he turned his hands to building furniture and he is relieved to see Daniel so that he can make amends. Daniel is deeply relieved that his old enemy is no longer an enemy and that he only needs to worry about the other two.

This is something I really appreciated about COBRA KAI; it declared that even the bad aspects of KARATE KID are still part of the story and they belong and that if regarded with love and care and interest and curiosity, they can become meaningful and vital and special.

A SLIDERS reboot would probably have to do this in a highly indirect way.

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I think the main criticism of TOMORROWLAND is that it's a lengthy rant about the pointlessness of dystopian fiction and the importance of maintaining a positive attitude -- and reviewers comment that a positive attitude doesn't end human trafficking, the climate emergency, global starvation, etc.. That's fair, but TOMORROWLAND is just a fun adventure movie with a streak of optimism and I don't think we should expect a work of fiction to cure cancer or anything. It's okay. I think Damon Lindeloff did fine.

Another point of criticism was that Britt Robertson was way, way, way, way, way too old at 25 years old to play 15 - 17. This is not unreasonable. The odd thing is, Robertson played a teenager in many 2010 - 2015 projects and played a teenager after TOMORROWLAND in the movie THE SPACE BETWEEN US. Robertson looked teenager-ish before TOMORROWLAND and teenager-ish again in THE SPACE BETWEEN US. But in TOMORROWLAND, Robertson has surprisingly deep lines in her skin and a rougher texture than she had in other films and TV shows of that period.

I suspect that probably, a lot of Robertson's previous roles as a twentysomething playing teens was from 2010 onward in TV and indie and low budget film projects that used inexpensive digital cameras and soft focus lenses. However, TOMORROWLAND was shot with maximum budget Sony lenses in a 4K digital format. Robertson with her slender build and rounded face looked somewhat teenagerish on lower budget lenses and in 1080p digital video creating a sheen over her features. But at 4K, she looked her actual age.

I guess that could happen to anybody. I've elected to accept and ignore it, but some people can't.

Another issue of contention was having 53 year old George Clooney in the movie partnered with a 12 year old Raffey Cassidy and a 25 year old Britt Robertson, but that's people seeing something that isn't there; there is not a hint of sexuality between them. The relationship is clearly Clooney as a disgruntled brother with his sisters, one manipulative and disdainful, one optimistic to the point of being obnoxious.

Anyway. Damon Lindeloff did a nice job with TOMORROWLAND, although I'm sure Disney doesn't agree since it was a $180 million loss. I still really like the movie.

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One of my favourite movies is TOMORROWLAND, scripted by Damon Lindeloff. There's a part where George Clooney's character snarls, "Do I have to explain everything? Can't you just be amazed and move on?"

That is, I feel, quite reflective of Lindeloff's approach to LOST if I understand Slider_Quinn21's summary correctly.

(Note: TOMORROWLAND is probably nobody else's favourite movie.)

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Even the writers can't explain the Kromagg Dynasty endgame for Kromagg Prime. The entire Kromagg arc seems to be rewritten on the fly from episode to episode with every intention for the storyline in one episode abandoned by the next episode.

The fan consensus is that the Kromagg Prime arc was a really good idea from Marc Scott Zicree that was mishandled later. My opinion is that after "Invasion", the Kromagg arc was a disaster from conception to scripting to filming to airing.

"Invasion" introduces the Kromaggs: they are an interdimensional empire who are xenophobically obsessed with enslaving all humans in all dimensions. The Kromaggs loathe humans and are enraged that the Kromaggs don't seem to have any doubles (at least none that they've found) in the multiverse. They plant a tracking device in an unidentified slider, intending to invade the sliders' home Earth once they stop sliding. This sets the stage for a sequel that is completely inevitable; the sliders' central goal, home, is now entangled with the Kromaggs.

In preproduction for Season 4, incoming story editor Marc Scott Zicree clearly felt the show was in a bad state. It had lost two original actors. Zicree said in an online fan chat that he was "horrified" by the Season 3 episodes at the end. Zicree felt that with Arturo dead and Wade to be lost off-camera, it was time to steer SLIDERS into a more overtly science fiction and technology driven approach: the Kromagg Invasion of Earth.

Zicree's storyline: Quinn and Maggie return to Quinn's home Earth in the S4 premiere, but the Kromaggs have invaded. Quinn also discovers that he is actually from the Kromagg homeworld, that the Kromaggs and a race of humans once lived in peace as an interdimensional civilization of sliders led by Quinn's father, Michael Mallory.

In the Kromagg-Human war, Quinn's father placed Quinn with doubles of Quinn's parents, and placed Quinn's brother, Colin, with another set of doubles. Quinn determines that his birth father's weapon was successful as his biological parents attempted to retrieve him but couldn't; he, Rembrandt and Maggie set off to find the Kromagg homeworld and this weapon.

Zicree's intention: Quinn would find Colin. As for Wade: options were to have guest characters report that Wade had escaped the Kromaggs and was fine or to have Wade appear as a guest-star if Sabrina Lloyd could be secured to give the character an ending. The Season 4 finale: Quinn, Rembrandt, Maggie and Colin arrive on the Kromagg homeworld. Colin begins acting strangely, and Quinn's birth parents declare that they never placed their son Quinn with any doubles and they have no idea who Colin is supposed to be. It's revealed: Quinn's entire Season 4 backstory was a Kromagg trick.

The Kromaggs used Quinn to regain access to the Kromagg homeworld to retake it from the humans and Colin is not Quinn's brother, but rather a Quinn-clone who has been altered to look different with a sleeper personality. Quinn succeeding in reaching the Kromagg homeworld has also shut down the humans' security functions that barred the Kromaggs from sliding in; the finale ends with Quinn fighting Colin while Kromagg manta ships fill the sky. Season 5 would have had Quinn discover: the invaded Earth in "Genesis" was not Quinn's real home Earth. Colin would be killed off or his human personality would override the sleeper personality and he'd stay on as a regular.

Most SLIDERS fans really like this storyline idea and are upset by how it actually unfolded after David Peckinpah and Jerry O'Connell and Bill Dial changed it. I'd argue that the story was a disaster from start to finish.

First, "Invasion" plainly establishes that the Kromaggs are appalled by the existence of humans. "Genesis" declares that Kromaggs and humans once lived in peace and shared a dimension. This is completely mismatched to the xenophobia of the "Invasion" Kromaggs. While it's not unreasonable to note that the "Invasion" Kromaggs were liars and that their stated backstory could be a lie, if one wants an interdimensional race that once lived in peace with humans, it'd be better to create a new species rather than hammer the Kromaggs into this completely opposing template.

"Genesis" refocuses SLIDERS with Quinn now a soldier and a central figure in a decades-spanning interdimensional war. This doesn't work for me either: the appeal of Quinn, to me, is that he's the American whiz kid making gadgets in his basement, a rebrand of the middle-aged English-Victorian inventor. To turn him into Kal-El of Kromagg Prime is, to me, an absurd turn of backstory that Quinn's creator, Tracy Torme, described as "pretty ridiculous". And it's clear that the creator of this storyline, Zicree, also though it ridiculous because he was going to overturn it later.

The main problem I have with this: SLIDERS is about characters who come from our world (or at least something close to it), reacting to parallel universes being different from the world in which the viewer lives. If Quinn's homeworld is now Kromagg Prime, if Rembrandt's homeworld is now a Kromagg battlefield, then the viewer no longer shares a recognizable version of "home" as a common point of reference. Again, Zicree seems to know this because he was going to reveal that the invaded home Earth wasn't truly the home Earth -- but he was going to let these revelations stay in place from episodes 1 to 21 of Season 4; that's 21 episodes where the sliders are no longer from our home and trying to find their way back to our home.

The secondary but no less glaring issue: if Quinn and Rembrandt think everyone they've ever known and loved is a Kromagg victim or prisoner, then SLIDERS' comedy episodes become awkward and all the worlds where the sliders liberate a dystopian regime make the sliders seem uncaring for fleeing their own dystopian Earth. The Kromagg Invasion of Earth, even if to be overturned later, makes every post-invasion story depressing and hypocritical.

The entire Season 4 arc was, in my personal opinion, a disaster even at this stage. 

The subsequent changes to Zicree's plot just dug it into a deeper hole. "Genesis" as scripted sends Wade to a rape camp, something that horrified Zicree. "Common Ground" continues with the idea that Quinn is being manipulated to retake the Kromagg homeworld and brings up searching for Wade, but "Common Ground" also rewrites the Kromaggs significantly from "Invasion".

The "Invasion" Kromaggs were distant manipulators speaking through a human agent; the Kromaggs now are written as evil Klingons from STAR TREK, a warrior race concerned with honour and military grandeur when the "Invasion" Kromaggs were unapologetic colonizers with a self-image of manifest destiny to justify their campaigns of conquest and enslavement.

"The Dying Fields" rewrites the Kromaggs and the Kromagg arc again, saying the Kromaggs have rape camps because Kromaggs were sterilized by the anti-Kromagg superweapon. Kromagg sterilization wasn't part of Zicree's plot and it undermines the original intention: that the Kromaggs have cloning technology to produce Colin. It's peculiar that the Kromaggs would have cloning technology but use humans to repopulate their fighting forces.

And now the anti-Kromagg superweapon is also changed. "Genesis" declares that Michael Mallory was a scientist who engineered sliding technology; the superweapon was presumably an application of sliding. Now, the superweapon has become some sort of biological agent of sterilization.

Also, "The Dying Fields" has the Kromaggs not recognizing the sliders and actively trying to kill them when "Genesis" and "Common Ground" established that the Kromaggs need to keep them alive to retake Kromagg Prime. The Kromagg plot was stretching before; now some cracks are showing.

Then we have "Mother and Child" where the Kromaggs recognize the sliders and declare that the previous order to keep them alive has been countermanded. No explanation is provided as to why the Kromaggs are suddenly abandoning their plan to use Quinn to reconquer their homeworld. "Lipschitz Live" also features a Colin double which undermines the original intention that Colin was an altered-Quinn clone created recently.

What happened here? According to Temporal Flux, Zicree was struggling to work with David Peckinpah and Bill Dial. Peckinpah seemed irritated by Zicree's desire to work on scripts and do rewrites; Dial was annoyed that Zicree called him out for playing Solitaire during what were to be writers' room meetings. Meanwhile, Jerry O'Connell disliked the idea that Colin (played by Jerry's real life brother Charlie) wouldn't be Quinn's actual brother.

It would seem to me: Peckinpah and Dial decided to throw out Zicree's original intention and declare that Quinn's Kromagg Prime homeworld backstory was true, at which point Zicree gave up on the show and switched his focus to DEEP SPACE NINE. Why did "The Dying Fields" and "Mother and Child" abandon the arc of the Kromaggs keeping the sliders alive? It was to upset Zicree and get him to stop showing up to work, presumably so that Peckinpah could focus on his lifelong mission to kill himself with heroin while Bill Dial played Solitaire.

Then we have the Season 4 finale, "Revelations" where Quinn nonsensically does not go to Kromagg Prime despite boasting of having found a way to get past the Kromagg Prime security lockout that blocks incoming sliders. We have an aimless runaround where Quinn finds a pretty acceptable superweapon to free our home Earth but unfathomably expresses no interest in using it, leaving it to Rembrandt, only for Rembrandt to forget about the superweapon also.

It's no longer clear what the point of the season is: the sliders are clearly not attempting to liberate Rembrandt's home Earth since they don't make any effort to seize technology to make it happen. They are clearly not trying to get to Kromagg Prime since they have the coordinates and the means to arrive but do not use them. It's inexplicable.

To me, the appeal of TRACY TORME'S SLIDERS is that it's a simple concept. The sliders are people lost in the multiverse, trying to find their way back home. That's a 15 word summary.

MARC SCOTT ZICREE'S SLIDERS concept, even before it was altered, is that the sliders are people whose home Earth has been invaded by an interdimensional dynasty of conquerors except one of the sliders is actually from this dynasty's homeworld and this homeworld is now occupied by humans who have a superweapon that can drive away the dynasty except later it'll turn out this human who was thought to be from the homeworld isn't from the homeworld and the invaded home is not actually the home of the sliders because their real home is fine and for God's sake, that was 82 words and it's still confusing.

TRACY TORME'S SLIDERS is a simple idea that I can explain in 10 words or less. I can't explain MARC SCOTT ZICREE'S SLIDERS in 82 words. I don't think I could explain it in 100 words or even 1,000 words.

This is why, to me, MARC SCOTT ZICREE'S SLIDERS is a failure from start to finish. You can't claim the sliders are searching for home if home is a battlefield they're escaping, and then separately, a place to which they've never been. You can't present the sliders as representing the viewer's world if the sliders now come from two different Earths that don't reflect the audience's Earth.

It's confusing. You can't sell a confusing message.

To me, the 'best' route for Season 4 without Arturo and Wade would have been to have Quinn sliding alone (and sadly lose Rembrandt but retain Cleavant to guest-star as a double a few times). If we can't do the original sliders, then reformat the show to be Quinn sliding alone, five years after the Season 3 finale. Maggie has left Quinn offscreen. Quinn is still searching for a way home.

He encounters a homeless young girl who broke into Quinn's basement looking for a place to sleep and accidentally triggered his sliding machine which through a combination of technobabble and luck, brought her to Quinn. Quinn takes on the new kid as his protege, recreating a version of SLIDERS' original formula of older and younger characters. Just keep it simple.

Anyway. I've never gotten past Season 5 of LOST, but it's pretty clear to me that LOST kept its focus on the characters. LOST is about troubled people on an island of supernatural phenomena. LOST ensured that it was about the people, and that meant that LOST could always be explained in 11 words.

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I think Slider_Quinn21 notes something with LOST that is also true for ALIAS and FRINGE and SLIDERS: there comes a point when the fans who stick with the show stop caring very much about the secrets of the Island or why the parallel universe in Season 1 of FRINGE is totally different in Season 2 or what the Kromagg Dynasty endgame is for Kromagg Prime and Quinn. Instead, the fans just want to know that the characters -- their friends -- are alright and enjoy a journey and an adventure with the companions they have come to love and cherish.

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In total, Gough and Millar wrote nine scripts for SMALLVILLE, two of which were plotted by other writers. The scripts they wrote solo: the pilot, "Metamorphosis", Rosetta", "Exodus", "Exile", "Memoria" and Crusade." The scripts they wrote from staff-produced outlines: "Tempest" and "Covenant".

They also wrote the story ideas for three episodes "Zero", "Vortex" and "Lineage", and other writers wrote the final teleplays.

Seven solo scripts, two scripts that were originated by other writers, three story ideas that were completed into scripts by other writers.

Now, Gough and Millar were definitely empowered to rewrite all 152 scripts and showrunners often don't get onscreen credits for rewrites on their staff writers' pages. Most Season 1 scripts seem to have been refined by Gough and Millar, boasting thoughtfully understated yet mythic dialogue, strong setpieces, references to Shakespeare and Nietzsche and Sun Tzu and historical references to Napoleon and Kaspar Hausar -- those are all very distinctive Gough and Millar flourishes.

While it's possible that the staff writers were mimicking their showrunners' approach, starting with Season 2, that style vanishes. Suddenly, dialogue is clumsily expository and literary references are gone -- except when Gough and Millar are credited with the script.

In Season 1, Alfred Gough and Miles Millar wrote the Pilot episode and the second episode, "Metamorphosis", to start the show and the weekly formula. They wrote the plot for "Zero", but the script was written by Mark Verheiden. They had Philip Levens write the plot for "Tempest", the Season 1 finale, and then Gough and Millar wrote the script, wanting to end the season on with their words.

Gough and Millar claim that they were constantly rewriting scripts throughout their seven years, but this only appears to be true for Season 1 as their very distinctive voice is largely gone after "Tempest".

In Season 2, they wrote the plot for the season premiere, "Vortex", but the script was by Phil Levens. It's at this point that Gough and Millar seemed to disengage from SMALLVILLE, writing only two more scripts this year.

They wrote the plot for "Lineage", but the script was by Kenneth Biller and Biller has a more emotionally charged approach where Gough and Millar are more restrained. Gough and Millar wrote "Rosetta" beause they wanted to handle the event episode introducing Christopher Reeve as Dr. Curtis Swan. They also wrote the Season 2 finale, "Exodus", again, so that the season would end on their terms.

On-set producer and frequent director Greg Beeman remarked that SMALLVILLE suffered from Gough and Millar writing scripts from Los Angeles to be filmed in Vancouver without really understanding what the budget could and couldn't handle. They seemed to struggle with it in Season 1 and then decided to just restrict themselves to big budget premieres, finales and mid-season episodes.

In addition, Gough and Millar had accepted numerous feature film screenwriting jobs outside of SMALLVILLE. They were physically distant and creatively detached -- but they didn't step down, meaning no one was appointed or empowered to take over script rewrites for continuity and arcs. In fact, Gough and Millar considered it unnecessary to have continuity and arcs, saying that standalones were preferable to keep the show accessible to casual viewers.

They wrote the Season 3 premiere, "Exile" and later wrote "Memoria". The plot for the Season 3 finale, "Covenant", was written by Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer, but Gough and Millar wrote the final script. All are strong stories, but the episodes between these tentpoles are mostly very weak; Gough and Millar didn't seem to get involved.

One of the most glaring aspects of Season 3: Clark spent months living as a Red Kryptonite deranged criminal. Even after the Red Kryptonite was removed, Clark still had occasional bursts of rage in the second episode of the season. But in the third episode, Clark's personality abruptly snapped back to 'normal' and stayed normal until episode 8 at which point the 'new' Clark made an unexplained comeback. Why did this happen?

I've heard that Gough and Millar were extremely late in writing the Season 3 premiere script. The Season 3 writers had to start writing the post-premiere scripts and wrote the default Clark-personality. By the time Gough and Millar turned in their Season 3 premiere script and a short brief for Part 2, the writers had finished scripting episodes 3 - 7. Only then did the Season 3 writers learn that Clark was going to have a more aggressive personality in the premiere. But it was too late to go back into the already-written scripts to add it in. This is why Clark's angrier characterization vanished after Season 3's second episode and didn't reappear until episode 8.

Gough and Millar wrote "Memoria", a very significant episode where Clark has flashbacks of Krypton. And they wrote the Season 3 finale, "Covenant", again, to end the season. They wrote the Season 4 premiere, "Crusade" -- and after introducing witches and whatnot to SMALLVILLE, they seemed to vanish from SMALLVILLE completely, contributing no scripts, no rewrites, no story ideas, no more season premieres, no more season finales.

Also strangely, Gough and Millar didn't appoint anyone to take over as the lead writer and showrunner. It's peculiar that Warner Bros. TV and the WB/CW network tolerated a situation where the two people hired to showrun SMALLVILLE were no longer performing their responsibities. Seasons 4 - 7 have no leadership, no guiding hand -- just staff writers awkwardly writing monster of the week stories.

Why did WB allow this? Well, screenwriter Kevin Williamson has explained that writers who have multiple TV and film projects have to lay out, contractually, which project is in "first position" and which projects take "secondary position". Williamson was writing SCREAM scripts and overseeing DAWSON'S CREEK, but he was contractually required to drop all DAWSON'S CREEK work if Miramax summoned him or set a deadline or needed him on set.

Williamson said that eventually, SCREAM being in first position made it physically impossible to get any work done for DAWSON'S CREEK and he left the show after Season 2. This would happen in reverse later in Williamson's career: he sold THE VAMPIRE DIARIES to CW and was showrunner, then Miramax hired him to write SCREAM 4. Williamson had more drafts to write, but then the CW ordered that he fulfill his first position duties as showrunner and Williamson had to stop working on SCREAM 4 and let another writer take over.

My guess would be that SMALLVILLE was a fairly low-budgeted show and Gough and Millar's contracts allowed them to put SMALLVILLE in permanent secondary position and do absolutely no writing for the show and still get paid as showrunners. In addition, whatever payments they received for scripting episodes were likely lower than their payments for writing Lindsay Lohan movies and scripts for THE MUMMY, so they put their attention towards their features and ignored their TV show.

To be fair(ish): Gough and Millar did keep working on the studio and licensing arrangements for SMALLVILLE. They negotiated extensively with WB to license Lois Lane for a short guest run in Season 4 and eventually got Lois approved as a regular character.

They put in further effort to acquire licenses for Green Arrow, Cyborg, Aquaman, the Flash and the Martian Manhunter in later seasons, although they failed when negotiating for Bruce Wayne.

All these added licenses brought in a lot of publicity for SMALLVILLE. In Seasons 6 - 7, they aimed for lower hanging fruit with Jimmy Olsen and Supergirl (who were part of the Superman library and easier to secure). Gough and Millar used these licenses to raise the profile of the show. And they managed the budget and cast contracts so that SMALLVILLE always made more in sales and ad revenue than its budget, ensuring continued renewals.

They kept the show going, they just stopped writing for it.

Their lack of interest in writing for SMALLVILLE was most evident in the Season 8 changeover. SMALLVILLE secured three final seasons via severe budget cuts. Gough and Millar were going to see a paycut; the lower budget also meant they wouldn't be able to hire as many writers as in previous years. They had previously been paid for doing little to no writing; they would now be paid less and required to actually write some scripts to get paid at all.

Gough and Millar immediately quit.

Note that in Season 8, the promoted showrunners Brian Peterson, Kelly Souders, Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer collectively wrote six episodes out of 22, and it's also clear that they rewrote every single script of the year.

The Peterson/Souders/Slavkin/Swimmer style is different from Gough and Millar: they wrote SMALLVILLE as an exaggerated, highly melodramatic superhero fantasy matched with intense emotionalism and made lavish references to superhero comics rather than classical literature and mythology.

Every script of Season 8 featured that voice even if the showrunners weren't credited for the teleplay; the four producers were very involved in every episode. This was a level of work that Gough and Millar hadn't put into SMALLVILLE since the Season 1 finale and when Season 8 called for them to put in some writing, they ran.

Why are Gough and Millar putting in the work on WEDNESDAY?

Well, unlike SMALLVILLE, Gough and Millar were actually present for filming, moving to Romania for the duration of the WEDNESDAY shoot. This likely made it easier for them to put their creativity into the show. In contrast, Gough and Millar wrote their SMALLVILLE scripts in LA while the show filmed in Vancouver; Gough and Millar often seemed to forget that SMALLVILLE existed whereas WEDNESDAY was in their line of sight.

They also secured Tim Burton to direct half of WEDNESDAY's episodes and maintain the visual tone for the other half as a producer. Burton is a hyperdetailed, obsessive director from the prestige world of film. He is unlikely to tolerate absenteeism from writers even if working in television.

Also, WEDNESDAY is only eight episodes as opposed to 22 a year. The light workload that Gough and Millar enjoyed on SMALLVILLE would not be allowed in the modern prestige TV market; Netflix would expect their hired showrunners to run the show. And Gough and Millar weren't as busy with feature film assignments while WEDNESDAY was being prepped, written and filmed.

My guess is that Gough and Millar aren't bad people, they're just inclined to do the very least they can get away with doing. It's human nature. In addition, coming from the world of films shown in theatres, they had a certain level of dismissiveness for TV. They felt that season premieres and finales were important and that everything in between didn't matter. The show was cheap, so the network and studio allowed it since the money was coming in; the ad revenue exceeded the costs.

Since then, the world of TV has acquired the same public prestige as feature films. And also, whatever their faults, if Gough and Millar sign a contract to write four episodes and script edit four more, they'll do their job and do it well. They just won't do more than they are contracted to do. They won't go above and beyond.

In contrast, we have Tom Welling. In Season 10 of SMALLVILLE, Welling did 22 episodes, but he was only paid for 21. What happened to this 4.55 percent of his Season 10 salary? Welling took a paycut to increase the offer to Michael Rosenbaum to secure Rosenbaum's guest appearance in the series finale.

Gough and Millar don't operate on this wavelength. They are businessmen first and writers second. They are good writers when they actually do the writing. And they didn't do enough writing on SMALLVILLE.

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ireactions wrote:

Alfred Gough and Miles Millar created SMALLVILLE. They are also showrunning the new WEDNESDAY ADDAMS series on Netflix.

A WEDNESDAY ADDAMS series is a dream come true for me, but hearing that Gough and Millar are writing it -- well, it's the equivalent of hearing that NBCUniversal has commissioned a SLIDERS revival but hired Keith Damron to run it.

Gough and Millar are a truly peculiar choice for a property as eccentric and idiosyncratic as THE ADDAMS FAMILY.  SMALLVILLE had 217 episodes. Gough and Millar were showrunners for 152 of those episodes. Of 152, they only wrote nine. Their nine episodes, while solid, are action adventure mixed with teen angst and have none of the macabre, gothic, comedic sensibilities of THE ADDAMS FAMILY. Gough and Millar aren't innovative, insightful, witty or clever. They're entertaining and competent.

Outside of those nine 'event' episodes, SMALLVILLE under Gough and Millar had a serious quality control problem. Season 1 had a lot of adequate to excellent entries but were hyperformulaic with a repetitive monster of the week format, apparently mandated by Gough and Millar.

The backchatter I've heard from is that Gough and Millar were incredibly disengaged from SMALLVILLE. They originally set out to do BRUCE WAYNE: THE SERIES about Bruce's adventures between graduating from college and becoming Batman. They were unable to license Batman but were told they could get the rights to a young Superman. They sold the pilot to series on the WB network.

After that, Gough and Millar didn't know what to do and didn't bother. They had made Clark Kent too powerful to be seriously threatened; they had geographically isolated Clark to a small town and didn't have a wide range of story ideas within the town. Gough and Millar told the writers room for Season 1 to do monster of the week episodes to fill in the 22 episode orders and then Gough and Millar stopped working on SMALLVILLE scripts, focusing instead on writing screenplays (SHANGHAI KNIGHTS, SPIDER-MAN II).

The Season 1 writers came up with arcs and running plots in Gough and Millar's absence; when Gough and Millar came back at the end of the year to write the season finale, they threw out the Season 1 writers' arcs. The Season 1 writers mostly left for other shows. A new team was hired for Season 2 under the same restrictions with absent showrunners who'd occasionally return and demand that any character or plot development be reset.

As a result, Seasons 2 - 7 suffered from scripts that were produced under severe restrictions, trying not to build any characterization or storylines that the showrunners would just tear down when passing through. Gough and Millar didn't know how to run a 2000s-era TV show of ongoing arcs, viewing TV as strictly standalone, siloed episodes. They were as indifferent to SMALLVILLE as David Peckinpah was to SLIDERS, bringing their A-game to the episodes they personally wrote and uncaring about the rest.

As showrunners, they wrote only 6% of Seasons 1 - 7 and only seemed to give SMALLVILLE 6% of their attention.

Gough and Millar were, however, very successful at the *business* side of running SMALLVILLE. They got it to seven seasons and their successors got it to ten. Gough and Millar hired most of the 'regular' actors on 13 episode contracts and have them absent from nine a year, trimming those costs signifcantly. They cast unknowns to pay lower but equitable rates and less than what more experienced performers would cost. They marketed their actors as heartthrobs for their audience and kept them in the press.

They were great at selling the show and reducing their budget to keep pace with diminishing ratings. They were great at making SMALLVILLE cost less than its earnings in ad revenue. They were great at keeping SMALLVILLE on the air.

I am unnerved by Gough and Millar scripting a WEDNESDAY ADDAMS series, a show that calls for eccentricity, humour, inventiveness, wit, quippy dialogue, and the ability to balance the morbid with the amusing. Gough and Millar wrote nearly humourless scripts for SMALLVILLE even at their best. Their scripts were functional superhero stories that were nominally related to teenagers and had a flair for visuals, scenes that were playable for actors, a sense of myth and legend, effective in their action -- but they weren't comedies and they weren't in the vein of offbeat horror-comedy like THE ADDAMS FAMILY.

It looks like Gough and Millar are writing eight of WEDNESDAY's 10 episodes. That's 80% of the scripts. Hopefully, they'll give it 80% of their attention as well.

In addition, all ten episodes of the show are being directed by Tim Burton, also the executive producer of the show. Burton is a master of the eccentrically gothic and morbidly bizarre.

Maybe Burton is the true showrunner and actively reworking and writing Gough and Millar's scripts.

Maybe Gough and Millar's 6% efforts are all that Burton requires for his vision. I love Wednesday Addams and I hope that is the case.


Watched the first four episodes of WEDNESDAY. It's better than SMALLVILLE. I would even say it's good.

Alfred Gough and Miles Millar are clearly involved throughout the show, writing scripts that are above average but... not great. Their dialogue occasionally has some brilliantly morbid lines for Wednesday Addams, but they generally default to low-key, more gently paced conversations lack the rapid fire speed and relentless wit of the Paul Rudnick scripted ADDAMS FAMILY films directed by Barry Sonnenfeld.

The scripts aren't bad, they're good enough. Gough and Millar are professionals who do perfectly adequate work, writing decent setpieces that drive an interesting story, crafting satisfactory dialogue that is only occasionally brilliant but allows an actor to really make it their own whether it's Michael Rosenbaum in the SMALLVILLE pilot or the excellent Jenna Ortega as Wednesday Addams.

In terms of the writing, WEDNESDAY is a functional, passably good ADDAMS series, but the writing lacks a truly joyful thrill of macabre and is not driven by any real perspective on the human condition or revealing any insights or ideas. The writing is simply a technically proficient exercise in teleplay production for a previously-existing copyright, much like Gough and Millar's previous work on properties like Superman (SMALLVILLE) and Spider-Man (SPIDER-MAN 2) and less proficiently with CHARLIE's ANGELS.

However, WEDNESDAY as a TV show is somehow better than its scripts. This is largely because Tim Burton, while not the showrunner, is handling the visuals by directing half of this eight episode series and overseeing the other half, and Burton is able to infuse the onscreen action with the charm, darkness, mystery and danger that Gough and Millar's scripts don't provide (but also don't prevent). In addition, actress Jenna Ortega is able to perform Gough and Millar's adequate but undistinguished dialogue with the darkly wry wit of the Wednesday character that isn't entirely on the page.

It also helps that Gough and Millar are running the show and ensuring that scripts never fall below their baseline standard. SMALLVILLE was often a very poorly written show, but that often seemed to be due to Gough and Millar not being very involved in SMALLVILLE and only writing nine scripts out of 152 episodes across their seven seasons. Most of the scripts from Season 2 onward lacked the touch of their rewrites. The nine episodes they did write personally across Seasons 1 - 7 were enjoyable, capable stories.

Gough and Millar didn't seem able to run a 20 - 22 episode season of a TV show. On SMALLVILLE, they seemed to just stop showing up after Season 1. WEDNESDAY is operating on the eight episode per season model and they seem more inclined to put in the work.

WEDNESDAY is really only above-average in terms of its writing, but the acting and directing are able to raise it to a level of greatness that is well-above the quality of the words on the page.

TNG was shot on 35mm film for all seven seasons. But admittedly, not every 35mm film stock is the same. If you ever have time, download and watch the 4K77 version of STAR WARS, a digital scan of a theatrical print of the 1977 movie. The movie was shot on four different kinds of film depending on whatever was available and what was needed for layers of effects, and all four are rather mismatched in how they capture light and how much grain is on the image.

TNG could have changed film stocks between or even within seasons. And certainly, the lighting shifted throughout the seasons, lenses and cameras improved every few years, and colour processing techniques advanced (although the HD remaster would have had to do colour processing all over again as they rescanned the original film).

Netflix's high bandwidth streaming is probably higher bandwidth now than it was in 2012. They didn't even start 4K until 2014.

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I don't know if anything in this bible counts as cool. The episode summaries are a triviality for anyone who's watched the episodes and the stolen-from-fanworks pages are just a reminder of how people used to print out webpages and then make photocopies of these printouts.

This series bible is hackwork from one of the hackiest hacks who ever lived, Jeremy Smith, and the final pages are written by the master of hackwork himself, Keith Damron.

I assume Janice Fishman is okay since Zicree used her name in his MAGIC TIME novel, but honestly, Marc Scott Zicree is so superhumanly nice that he would have found at least one favourable thing to say about Jack the Ripper, so who knows.

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roulettewheel wrote:

who compiled this?

The SLIDERS series bible was originally written by assistant-to-writer Jeremy Smith, then Karen Miller later in Season 3 (not sure about her title), then Season 4 staff member Janice Fishman for the fourth season, and finally, Keith Damron for the last season (thanks, TF!).

roulettewheel wrote:

was this used by anyone on the show?

The bible was used to give incoming and freelance writers a crash course in SLIDERS at a time when writers could not reasonably be expected to have watched every (or even any) previous episodes of a show due to the non-existence of view-on-demand video services, the cumbersome and limited format of VHS, and the impracticality of booking studio video suites for every single freelance or staff writer to watch old episodes.

If nothing else, summaries of previous episodes let writers know what had already been done before.

roulettewheel wrote:

where did it come from

Copies of this bible have been floating around Los Angeles for years, retained by former writing assistants. A fan of SLIDERS once reported visiting Zicree's office and finding numerous copies of this document but finding them undeserving of interest as most of the material was just episode summaries and printouts of fan pages.

roulettewheel wrote:

which fansites and who did that?

To 'write' large portions of the manual, Jeremy Smith simply printed out web pages from Robb Potter's Sliders.net, the alt.tv.sliders newsgroup, Ed Brillig's page, Tim Lucas' page, Nigel G. Mitchell's SLIDERS TECHNICAL MANUAL, and some photocopies of magazine articles by Amanda J. Finch and Dan Webber.

The episode summaries, I assume, were pre-broadcast loglines and cast and crew details photocopied from memos to FOX's marketing department.

I recall TF originally reported that Jeremy Smith was fired for his blatant lack of actual work on the Bible, and here, TF says that it happened in Season 3 with someone named Karen Miller taking over from Smith. I'm not sure what she did differently.

The Season 4 loglines have a Post-It saying it was written by "Janice Fishman" and while I can't find any credits for this person, the name "Janice Fishman" along with SLIDERS crew member "Paul Cajero" are found in Marc Scott Zicree's novel MAGIC TIME. TF says that Keith Damron wrote the S5 pages. (My use of "TF says" is to give him credit, not to cast doubt.)

Anyway. When writing my SLIDERS fanfic magnum opus, I too drew on the work of Nigel G. Mitchell -- which is to say I contacted him and offered him money to consult. He wouldn't take any money, so I just bought all of his novels off Amazon. In time, I will hunt down Jeremy Smith and demand that he cut Nigel a cheque.

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roulettewheel wrote:

wait... what is this document we are looking at???

https://www.shorescripts.com/what-is-a-tv-series-bible/

Why would TNG look different? The HD remaster was released 10 years ago. How did it look better? It's unlikely CBS and Paramount have done anything to improve it ever since the TNG remaster was a financial loss.

Hypothetically, it could be your 2022 TV being better than your 2022 TV, but you haven't mentioned it.

Two possibilities come to mind: the video was reprocessed for high dynamic range for increased shadow and brightness detail. The other possibility: the 2012 release was compressed for digital broadcast and streaming which meant some blur and loss of detail, but in 10 years, improved internet speeds and video compression codecs have led to more or all of the HD video detail finally coming through.

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Jeremy Smith of SLIDERS seems based in the United States, not Vancouver. He was a production assistant on EARTH 2 in New Mexico and on GRAND AVENUE, also in Los Angeles. He was the visual effects coordinator on FROM THE EARTH TO THE MOON in Florida, and did effects work on BLAST FROM THE PAST in Los Angeles.

The SLIDERS-employed Smith was an "assistant to writers". I was under the impression that the writing staff for SLIDERS, even in the Vancouver years, was in Los Angeles with a Vancouver-located onset producer team responsible for adjusting scripts for practical production.

The Jeremy Smith on CONTINUUM and VAN HELSING was born in Barrie, Ontario, Canada and moved to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada in his teens and IMDB credits indicate broke into TV on DARK ANGEL which filmed in Ruskin Dam, British Columbia.

The CONTINUUM-Smith says he started film school in 1999 in a 2022 Medium interview (well, he says he enrolled and that the interview is "23 years" later) and that he was in "dead-end" jobs before that. That doesn't seem to track with the SLIDERS-Smith having been an EARTH 2 production assistant in 1994; his jobs during and after film school were also production assistant jobs at first, and those were clearly not "dead end" jobs.

https://medium.com/authority-magazine/m … 0008a71bf5

Of course, it could still be the same person who conceivably took work on New Mexico and LA based shows before returning closer to home for DARK ANGEL and film school and possibly thinking that PA work without film school was a "dead end". The above is just why I think it's probably not the same person.

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I don't think Tom Welling was worried about being typecast because he wasn't expecting to work much after SMALLVILLE and was only thinking of a long vacation. He seems to enjoy acting in guest roles now and then.

I think Tom's initial concern about SMALLVILLE was that he didn't want to wear a Superman costume because when sought out for the role, Tom didn't really consider himself an actor and did not feel he had the experience or skill to play an American icon. When he read the script, he saw that he was playing an uncertain teenager; this was a character he felt his uncertain acting could handle. He asked the creators when Clark would wear the costume and become Superman, a character he wasn't sure he could play. He was told, "Never." This seems to what stuck with him more than "no flights no tights".

Welling developed a fealty to the original authorial intent of the creators: no costume. Maybe he was afraid back in Season 1, but by Season 10, I'm sure it wasn't fear, it was a sense of loyalty, I think. And I personally think it was misguided, because Tom's restriction meant that "Finale" was trying to film Superman sequences but having to now film Tom at a distance or at bizarre angles and with a CG cape just to meet Tom's stipulation that he never wear the costume.

That said, I can't imagine the accountants protested this creative decision. "You mean you DON'T want to spend five to ten thousand dollars to create a tailor-made Superman costume for Tom Welling that he will only wear for 5 - 10 minutes of one episode of the show? That is a very responsible choice."

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Uh, did he? I'm not sure that the Jeremy Smith of VAN HELSING is the same Jeremy Smith (credited as assistant to writer) on SLIDERS. There are two Jeremy Smiths on IMDB, this one with SLIDERS: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0808 91/ He also has credits on other 90s shows and his career goes from 1994 - 1999.

The Jeremy Smith who produces VAN HELSING seems to be mostly in Vancouver-shot, syndicated, SyFy Channel co-produced TV shows like, well, VAN HELSING and CONTINUUM, and this is his IMDB page: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1664748/

That said, it's not unheard of for IMDB to accidentally split the same person across two separate entries, but I don't think these two are the same person. I have sent @CaptainPunch on Twitter a query about this, however, and if it turns out Temporal Flux is right again, I owe him two evenings at the Olive Garden and a copy of all the DOORWAYS comic books.

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One example of a show that had a natural ending that refused to provide it: SMALLVILLE. Actually, SMALLVILLE probably had two natural endings.

The natural ending of SMALLVILLE was for Clark Kent to put on the Superman costume. That was the the ending of the first-draft script for "Finale". Tom Welling refused to do it. He said that SMALLVILLE wasn't about Superman and he would not perform in a full body shot wearing the Superman suit. He only agreed to wear the chest piece to open his shirt.

Ultimately, this was a situation where the actor would not perform the inevitable ending; he wanted SMALLVILLE to stick to Clark Kent in an attempt to maintain what he felt was the correct focus for his show (and it was his show by Season 10). Welling is a pretty decent human being: he gave his whole life to SMALLVILLE and he spent his free time truckloads of children's toys from Vancouver stores and wrapping them to distribute to children's charities during Christmas. So why wouldn't he wear the suit?

Welling's explanation was this: when Alfred Gough and Miles Millar first met with him about SMALLVILLE, they told him that their vision was for Clark to never wear the suit and for the show to only be about Clark's life before Superman.

Welling stuck to that even though that intention was no longer suited to where SMALLVILLE had ended up by Season 10. By Season 8, Clark had already formed a rough draft of the Superman identity and assembled the Justice League and Watchtower, etc.. SMALLVILLE had become a show about people in their mid-twenties. Welling was insisting on a story restriction that only made sense when SMALLVILLE was a high school show.

I suspect that Gough and Millar never imagined SMALLVILLE getting past the high school years. They were drawing on the John Byrne comics in which Clark, after high school, leaves Smallville to travel the world and has many years of adventures as an anonymous hero, trying to understand what the world needs from him. The decision to become Superman would happen long, long after Clark left Smallville and long after the SMALLVILLE series ended.

Tom Welling became co-executive producer of SMALLVILLE starting with Season 9 and right into Season 10. While he was not the showrunner and not running the writers room, it was ultimately his show and this was his decision. Due to budget cuts and the departure of so many cast members and crew, I think it made sense that Tom took over the direction of the show -- but Tom is not a screenwriter. He was barely an actor. (I haven't seen any of his post-SMALLVILLE roles, don't know if he's gotten better.)

Tom was -- and is -- a nice man whose natural demeanor and screen presence made him an excellent match for Clark Kent because he never really had to act. He could just be himself. But he is not a trained, skilled storyteller. Ultimately, he was doing what he thought was best and I think he made a mistake, albeit a mistake with the best of intentions.

Clark leaving Smallville to travel the world was probably the original and natural ending for SMALLVILLE. The inevitable yet unexpected: Clark goes into his last year of high school, Season 4, eagerly looking to apply to Smallville University to be trained as a journalist. The future is post-secondary education.

But as the season nears its end, Clark realizes he doesn't need a bachelor's degree as much as he needs to see the world outside Smallville and find out what he can give. Instead of going to university with Chloe, Pete and Lana, he tells them that he has to leave and he doesn't know when he'll come back.

Maybe Chloe cracks wise about how with all the weird stuff Clark always seems to blunder into and all the great stories and scoops he finds, he might not even need a journalism degree and could get a job through experience and a massive publishing history of freelance work. This will explain why Clark doesn't need a journalism degree to become a reporter in the future.

I could also imagine a Season 3 / 4 episode where Clark encounters Zatanna the magician. Zatanna could tell Clark about how her father, John Leonardo, was a famous magician with the stagename Zatara Zatanna. John created a pair of magic glasses that separated his onstage persona from his real life; he would put on the glasses to maintain his identity as John Leonardo and no one would recognize him as Zatara Zatanna until he took the glasses off.

Zatanna has been contemplating using the glasses, but she ultimately decides not to and gives them to Clark, saying they're not right for her, but they might someday be right for Clark.

I think the nice thing to do in the case of my incompetent laptop repair shop owner: he should not have offered repair services that he couldn't perform. He should have said he couldn't do it and not wasted her time and mine.

This man returned my niece's laptop to her with a hinge so loose the screen swung all the way back and a laptop battery that couldn't make it 20 minutes without being plugged in, and my niece went on a month-long trip with this defectively unrepaired machine. When she returned, I paid him a visit and noted, very politely: she had paid him to fix her laptop hinge. It seemed less than fixed. She had paid him to replace her battery with a full capacity model. This one wasn't holding a charge.

I assume he gave her the money back because he didn't want me showing up on his doorstep or at his home day after day, week after week, year after year like the obsessive I so clearly am. It was better to cut a cheque and get rid of me.

I'd say: if you are unable to repair a laptop hinge or replace the battery, don't offer this service. I think he came around to this way of thinking because after he gave my niece her money back, he said he was now going to do all his laptop repair work from home and that he was renting out his shop to a vape store. (He owned the property outright.)

He said that he was going to do pickups and dropoffs for laptops or have clients drop their laptops off at his home. I'm not sure how anyone will know his business exists when searching for a laptop repair service. I'm not sure anyone wants to bring their laptop to a residence, to a business without a storefront for some sense of accountability.

I think he was just saving face and the reality is: he's shutting his business down.

What happened?

Recent years have seen a lot of computing shift to smartphones and, to a lesser degree, tablets. Laptop repair literacy has increased: I shouldn't be replacing hard drives and snapping in new RAM because I'm not good at it and often break things, but people are more comfortable watching YouTube and trying to do these repairs themselves. Did DIY laptop repair diminish his business?

The bulk of this shop's business in the past was probably accidental damage repair. Laptops used to break a lot because people were carrying these heavy things everywhere as transportable work machines and accidents would happen with such cumbersome units.

Laptops got lighter and smaller, but this meant laptops now went into perilous situations: luggage, dining tables, restaurants, bars, trains, planes, buses, parks. Laptops would get waterlogged. Screens would get cracked. Power couplings would detach. Hard drives would break.

Laptops were people's media and communication centers: they were for writing letters and emails, they were personal movie theatres and televisions, they were day planners, photo albums, record books for financial and health and professional data. They had to get fixed. Laptop repair was a good business.

But then smartphones became mainstream. People could carry a computer in their pocket to receive messages, compose short messages, check their records, and even enjoy TV and movies (in miniature). Tablets emerged too: it was a lot harder to spill a drink on a tablet because they were propped up on a stand.

Laptops were still essential, but they were left at home on desks and sofas and beds. Smartphones meant laptops travelled less than before and suffered far less impact damage than in the past.

This laptop repair shop probably made 65 percent of its income repairing accidental damage and 35 percent from component failures. Over time, component failure became their main business. They became a service that kept older laptops going so that people could keep them longer rather than buying new ones.

But maybe, reduced to that small segment of a once larger market, maintaining older laptops through high quality part replacement wasn't very profitable.

It seems to me: this laptop repair shop decided to earn more money by using low quality parts while charging the same prices.

I remember about a year ago, I bought from him an extra laptop power cable. He'd sold me great power cables before: excellent resilience and length. This time, he sold me a power cable that was so short that I would have to sit next to the wall to keep the laptop plugged in. Poorer goods for the same prices. I had to replace the outlet-cable with a longer one while keeping the adapter.

Maybe his customers started coming in with damaged screens only to receive flickery replacements; maybe his replacement batteries wouldn't hold a charge, maybe his replacement laptop hinges couldn't stand up; maybe his replacement keyboards would crack; maybe his replacement hard drives would go dead, maybe his motherboards burnt out fast.

If my experience with his batteries and hinges was shared by other customers, then likely, whatever client base he had just walked away after two bad experiences. I certainly did.

What should he have done if his existing client base was no longer enough? Shrinkflation wasn't the answer.

He could have looked into phone and tablet repair. I don't know that he had these skills, but given (former) brilliance in laptop repair, he could likely have upgraded his skillset. Most people can unscrew the base of their laptop and unplug a battery, but how many want to take a heat gun to their phone, pry off the back, swap out the battery, and reglue the device together? It would have been a shift, but I think he could have made it.

He might have also considered going into mobile repair, being willing to go to people's houses to examine their damaged laptops and return with their hardware repaired at a later date. This would have been scary in 2020 with COVID, but at this point, I think masks and vaccines provide sufficient protection so long as you use them.

He could have also offered classes, teaching DIY repair for laptops. I'd love to have a professional teach me how to disassemble and reassemble a laptop without destroying it. Why wasn't that a course in my high school computer studies class?

I guess it can be easy to get stuck in a situation that seems comfortable and easy only for the market and the customers' needs to shift.

But he definitely made a ton of money and bought a lot of real estate before this. I recall him buying buying additional properties back when business was good, including his own store location and then a larger storefront that he moved into while renting the older one to tenants.

Maybe he's just decided to become a landlord and stop repairing laptops. Maybe he lost interest in finding the best sources for replacement parts.

I sometimes think about sending him a message asking him what the hell happened, but I've come to realize that it's none of my business because his shop is literally not my business. It's just going to be one of life's mysteries that remains unknown.

I hope he's okay. I am sorry to lose a capable laptop repair service, but ultimately, I have to take my broken hardware to a place that will fix it as opposed to giving it back to me in the same state or worse while charging me a price for the privilege.

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Don't make excuses for them.

I am sorry that David Peckinpah had a nervous breakdown for the death of his son, but he could have simply taken a leave of absence from TV and gotten his life together rather than acting out his slow slide into addiction and self-poisoning on a national broadcast stage. I'm sure whoever decided to do copy-pasting rather than engage in their job with passion and interest had their own stuff going on too, but they could have at least opened a thesaurus and put the fan material in their own words.

I've personally replaced drives, RAM and batteries on laptops and... I've come to the conclusion that I should absolutely not do this anymore. My NVMe SSD in my gaming laptop is currently being held in place with electrical tape because I cracked one of the holding clips. I also lost all the screws and the laptop casing was, until recently, being kept together with packing tape. I did do it with my mother's old laptop, however, because (a) I bought it for her in the first place and (b) it was obsolete and she was using a new one. I keep thinking I can be my own apprentice-level laptop technician and I keep finding out I'm wrong.

The frustrating thing is: a few years ago, I found a person running an independent IT repair shop, and I would hire him to make all my upgrades and repairs. And this went really well until 2022 when he suddenly become incompetent. He replaced a battery in my laptop -- but the new battery was at 40 percent capacity, worse than the one he'd replaced. I had him replace it again with a battery that is hovering at 87 percent capacity.

A few months later, my niece brought him her MacBook Pro to replace the battery and repair the loose hinge. He'd worked on her laptop five years ago, replacing her battery and cleaning out the interiors perfectly. This year, however: he returned the MacBook Pro to her and the battery still couldn't hold a charge. And the hinge was now loose the the point where the screen could not stand upright.

We're wondering if he even bothered to replace the battery and we have no idea what he did to the hinge. Clearly, my battery replacement wasn't an error but now standard practice for him.

I politely requested that he return her money and he cut her a cheque and I am now searching for a new laptop repair service. This person has completely lost the ability to do his job.

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Never seen a single episode of DEXTER, but Slider_Quinn21's fascinating thoughts (thank you!) have touched on something: there's what we, the viewers, *want* to happen to and for the characters. And then there's what the natural outcome is for the events and situations and character traits within the story.

My niece once told me, "An ending should be inevitable but unexpected." And yet, no two people will necessarily agree what is the inevitable.

Judging from your words, you think the inevitable result of Dexter's life was to suffer some cataclysmic consequence for his life: either permanent seclusion or death. Your preference was for Dexter to suffer being forever alienated and isolated, but the showrunner's decision was that the inevitable outcome was for Dexter to die.

It sounds like there was some contrivance to have Dexter do something unforgivable as a (to you) hamfisted means of reminding the audience that Dexter is not a moral person and isn't a hero, merely less abhorrent than most of his victims, a conceit that the showrunner presents as a lie by having him kill Logan (?). And it sounds like this was a worthy and competent follow-up for you...

But a bit of an afterthought epilogue that you didn't really need.

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I vaguely recall that someone got their @$$ fired for just copy-pasting fan sites into the Bible and clocking out for the day.

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Hi, I took the liberty of uploading the Bible and changing the link in JamesL's post.

Special thanks to Cez for sending it to me in the first place.

I had to smash open an old laptop of my mother's and rip out the hard drive and put it in an enclosure to store the SLIDERS blu-ray files for upscaling experiments.

My gaming laptop currently has a 256GB  NVMe SSD for the OS and a 1TB 2.5 inch SSD for storage. I think it might be time to replace the 256GB with a 1TB as well or get the 1TB to 2TB.

It turns out my Blu-ray player wasn't doing any upscaling. My TV was increasing the sharpness levels. When my Android box self-updated to 4K, the sharpness on my TV was causing 'sparkling' on straight lines on 4K video and I had to turn that sharpness off. Then the Sliders Blu-ray image looked like it did on my computer.

I had to buy the paid version of MakeMKV to rip Blu-ray.

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@SlidersFanBlog runs a Saturday rewatch, but due to a regular phone call with my father, I've never attended.

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An interesting failure I've always been interested in is MALLRATS. The lead character, TS Quint, is played by actor Jeremy London. London's performance has always confused and intrigued me. He's a floppy haired young man in flannel, very much like Jerry O'Connell's Quinn Mallory.

The TS Quint character makes no sense to me: there are times when Quint is an angry, volatile hothead who loses his temper with his girlfriend, snaps at her and triggers a breakup, there are scenes where Quint angrily punches out someone who has been harassing him.

For the rest of the movie, however, Quint is extremely shy and withdrawn: he shifts his weight awkwardly, he is nervous and anxious and always retreating when other characters are in his face, and his expression indicates that he is struggling to bear the weight of the world on his shoulders -- very much like Quinn except the script insists that TS Quint is an unambitious, impulsive twentysomething. Despite being the lead character, Quint has very little dialogue and it's almost like his scenes and lines have been edited down.

It's very odd: all the scenes where Jeremy London plays TS Quint as aggravated and lacking self-control are filmed outdoors; all the scenes where London plays Quint as uncertain and thoughtful are filmed indoors at a shopping mall (where the bulk of the film is set).

In the audio commentary, director Kevin Smith expresses great frustration with actor London, saying that London was unprofessional, high on marijuana for during filming and unable to remember his lines in most of his scenes, requiring numerous takes. This indicates that the impulsive, aggressive TS Quint was Smith's intention, but the only time London performed the character as intended was for the brief outdoor shoots.

The shy and anxious Quint was the performance London gave for most of the movie. The anxiously pensive expression that London has throughout the movie is London inebriated and trying to remember his lines; it isn't an acting choice.

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Haven't seen the movie yet.

Black Adam, as far as I'm concerned, is a villain who believes his power makes him entitled to rule Earth. Black Adam went on a murder spree to conquer 13th century Egypt, murdered Billy Batson's parents, and was generally a blood hungry lunatic.

The 1999 Justice Society of America comic by Geoff Johns (creator-showrunner of STARGIRL), however, declared that Black Adam had been corrupted by his host, Theo Adam. The host was blamed for the murders and Black Adam, freed of Theo, was presented as a hero with a massive ego rather than a villain.

However, the 52 series (a weekly 2006 comic) by Geoff Johns and other writers ultimately reverted Black Adam to a (tragic) villain. Black Adam becomes the heroic ruler of the country Kahndaq, marries the superheroine Isis, and seems to have mostly reformed. But after evil scientist team the Science Squad attacks Kahndaq and murders Black Adam's wife and numerous citizens, Black Adam attacks the country of Bialya and murders two million civillians. The heroes ultimately strip Black Adam of his powers and leave him mortal and wandering.

There was some subsequent intrigue with Black Adam, but he remained a somewhat-tragic mass murderer whose efforts to regain his powers never succeeded or stuck. After the 2011 events of FLASHPOINT, Black Adam was rebooted and all of his previous history was restarted. Since then, Black Adam has been antagonistic but ultimately well-intentioned, an anti-hero but not a villain, largely shifted to his status as Kahndaq's protector. Black Adam's massacre of Bialya never happened.

In the 2019 - 2022 DOOMSDAY CLOCK series, Dr. Manhattan merged the reboot and pre-FLASHPOINT continuities fully (and the characters' memories of the pre-FLASHPOINT conitnuity had been slowly returning).

As I understand it (although may Temporal Flux forgive me and correct me if I'm wrong): the Bialya genocide never happened, but the memories of this alternate timeline are present. This phenomenon is seen in SUPERMAN and WONDER WOMAN where Clark and Diana have conflicting memories of their continuities and origin stories, but eventually settle on a merged version while noting discrepancies. Other destroyed DC Universe cities like Bludhaven have also reappeared after DOOMSDAY CLOCK.

Anyway. Black Adam, to me, is a villain, but comic book continuity has periodically reversed or expunged his worst crimes

I think I would rather send you an old blu-ray player that I'm no longer using. It plays the German standard definition blu-ray release of SLIDERS without the framerate issues you experienced when you bought the set and tried to play it.

I'm not sure there's much point in upscaling Seasons 2 - 5 when the German blu-ray uses high quality PAL masters.

Upscaling those 540 resolution video files to 720p and then adding the AI film grain to make up for the loss of the original film texture would leave you... pretty much what you'd get with standard bicubic upscaling.

You might as well just take my blu-ray player and play the S4 blu-ray disc.

That said, if your heart is really set on getting California Reich in AI-upscaled 1080p, I will run the job for you.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

Are you referring to smart stretch with regard to non-linear stretching?  Because I've tried it.  The original upconversion I did on five minutes of the pilot used it, but what I found was -- though I loved having the full screen at first -- over time, the distortion that did exist with the stretching became noticeable and bothered me.

A character in the center of the screen looks normal, but when they move to the edges, all of a sudden their body/face starts to widen.    Ultimately, I've moved to just zoom/cropping to a 16:9 but you do lose some of the sharpness so I started thinking about filling out the frame with new visual information rather than stretching existing image.

I see we're starting the cycle again.

ireactions wrote:

You know, we seem to have this discussion every 2 - 3 years.

You say that 4:3 TV shows don't play well on 16:9 television screens.

I bring up PowerDVD, a Windows DVD software with non-linear stretching which slightly zooms in on a 4:3 image and then stretches the sides of the image. The branding term Cyberlink Pano Vision: https://www.cyberlink.com/support/faq-c … do?id=1373

You say you'll try it sometime.

You attempt a stretch but use linear-stretching which distorts the image which you comment upon.

I specify that the PowerDVD version uses non-linear stretching.

You say you'll try it some time.

12 - 24 months later, you comment that 4:3 TV shows don't play well on 16:9 television screens and I bring up PowerDVD...

...

Anyway. Let me know if you need any upscaling done on any more personal videos. I'm going away for the weekend, so I can leave my gaming laptop running on upscaling jobs the whole time.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

So, I wonder if the AI community will ever develop technology to take 4:3 content and build out the "sides" to fill in for a 16:9 format.   It seems like at some point we'll have the AI technology to theoretically do this, the bigger question will be is enough people will care about this particular use case to build something for it.

There's a lot of talk about AI and video in general (https://www.fastcompany.com/90794674/ai … fringement), and I suspect we will probably get to a point where we'll be able to make Sliders short videos where we feed in the characters (names of the actors or the character + show title) and the AI will scan all the pictures of those people in whatever index is available to it, and then create 3-Models.  And then it will follow whatever the user of the software says should happen (eg place, setting, things that happen).  The voices may be tougher...  you'd need a large index of all the creative films and tv for the software to understand the speech/vocal tone of the actors.   Studios might consider making their libraries available for this (and get some licensing fee if the user pays some fee.  But I am not sure if that would ever happen.)

You know, we seem to have this discussion every 2 - 3 years.

You say that 4:3 TV shows don't play well on 16:9 television screens.

I bring up PowerDVD, a Windows DVD software with non-linear stretching which slightly zooms in on a 4:3 image and then stretches the sides of the image. The branding term Cyberlink Pano Vision: https://www.cyberlink.com/support/faq-c … do?id=1373

You say you'll try it sometime.

You attempt a stretch but use linear-stretching which distorts the image which you comment upon.

I specify that the PowerDVD version uses non-linear stretching.

You say you'll try it some time.

12 - 24 months later, you comment that 4:3 TV shows don't play well on 16:9 television screens and I bring up PowerDVD...

Anyway. PowerDVD is a proprietary, patented software and the Cyberlink Pano Vision algorithm is, I think, patented. This is probably why it was never used back when there was a home video market for originally-SD television shows released to HD.

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Kevin Smith's adventures as an Arrowverse director with his friend, Jason Mewes:

(Mewes and Smith play the characters of Jay and Silent Bob in Smith's ViewAskew universe movies, and in real life, the two have an alarmingly codependent friendship/partnership with Smith having helped/financed Mewes' 10 year journey from heroin addiction to sobriety and Mewes being an assistant manager in Smith's speaking/touring business.)

I just got back from Vancouver. I was up in Vancouver. I directed my third episode of The Flash.

It was fun. It was awesome, man. I go up there, like, you know, in TV they don't really need a director in episodic TV. Cast and crew make that show every week. If you ever look at the credits of your favorite shows, the director's the only name that really changes and stuff. That's how fucking replaceable the director really is.

It's weird, when I show up, I find myself at a loss. It's not like when I direct a movie, I'm involved in every aspect. But on TV, I'm not really. I'm kind of a bystander who gets to say "action" and "cut." But as a fan of the show, it's fun 'cause you get to watch that shit get made.

it always feels like when I go up there, that I'm not so much the director of the episode as a Make-A-Wish kid that gets to... that gets to go to the offices and shit. And I sit in on all the big meetings and stuff like that. And I watch very talented people who do this every fucking week sit around and talk to each other, how they're gonna plan this shit. "How are we gonna make her fly? How are we gonna do this shit, and whatnot?"

And then periodically, they remember I'm there and they look over at me and they go, "What do you think, Kev?" I'm like, "I think that sounds awesome!" And they're like, "Okay, big guy." And they go back to making the fucking show and stuff like that.

It's been nice, it's been a nice thing to do, to go up there. As a fan of the show, I get to watch stuff get done. And Jason Mewes, the guy who I stand next to professionally and personally for the last 30 fucking years and stuff, is the biggest CW fan on the planet.

Like, basically, the demographic I think is 12-year-old girls and Jason Mewes. He loves all of those fucking shows, man. He goes deep on 'em. He's always loved, like, you know, preteen or fucking youth dramas with heroic action in them and shit like that. Like he loves all the fucking CW shit, Supernatural. And when Arrow started, he was always trying to get me to watch Arrow and stuff.

He'd be like, "You gotta fucking watch Arrow. You used to write Green Arrow comics and shit." And I was like, "How is the show?" He goes, "Fucking awesome, man. This dude Stephen Amell is amazing. You gotta see this shit, look." He pulls out his iPad, always has an iPad in a holster on him at all times and stuff. He can watch his programs. Pulls it out and fucking pulls up this scene.

And he shows me a shirtless Stephen Amell doing this impossible exercise called the Salmon Ladder, where he's just like doing chin-ups but throwing the bar up in the air and catching himself and stuff like that, something. And I'm like, "This must be done with CGI." They're like, "No. You just have to be in shape."

I'm watching it and he's all bare-chested and oily and sweaty and shit. I was like, "What's this have to do with Green Arrow?" And he goes, "Oh, you want to see him shoot a fucking arrow? Do you?" And he pulls up another clip and he shows me a clip of fucking Stephen Amell shooting an arrow, also shirtless.

I was like, "I think you like this show for reasons you don't understand yet."

And he goes, "Watch it with me." I was like, "That might cross the line right there." I was like, "No, you watch it. Let me know how it goes and stuff." And he did. He watched it forever and then they introduced Flash in season two, and he's like, "You gotta watch this shit now! They're doing Flash, you fucking love Flash." And so he did-- he got me, he hooked me. But not by saying, "Watch the show."

One night, I got this fucking call in the middle of the night, Jason Mewes called the house. And like I said, he lives near me, so he never calls. It's weird when he calls the house since he lives like around the block. He just pops in like Kramer and the adventure begins.

I looked, the phone was ringing, and I saw it was his name and stuff. I said, "Oh, my God, something must be wrong."

I picked up the phone, I was like, "What's up? You all right?"

He goes, "Turn on the fucking TV! Turn on the TV right now!" The last time he called screaming "Turn on the TV" was September 11th, 2001.

I got fucking scared and I was like, "Oh, my God! Are we under attack by ISIS again?"

And he goes, "No, man. Fucking King Shark is on Flash right now."

And I was like, "You fucking piece of shit! You almost gave me a heart attack!" I said, "I thought ISIS had reached American shores."

And he goes, "Who the fuck is she? I'm talking about Flash!"

I said, "What do you mean, King Shark's on Flash?"

He's like, "He's on fucking Flash right now, man! Turn on the fucking TV! He's... Oh, you fucking missed it, it's over and shit."

I was like, "How'd he look?"

He goes, "He looked fucking amazing." Now, for those of you that don't know who King Shark is, he's a DC supervillain. But he ain't cool like the Joker or Lex Luthor. He's like way down the list. His whole gimmick is he's a shark that walks on land and wears pants.

Like that's... it's goofy and it works in the comic books. 'Cause he's graphically interesting. But you would never try this shit in the real world because it would look stupid. But he was saying they tried it. I was like, "That's fucked up, man." I was like, "I gotta see what it looks like."

He goes, "You go to Twitter, man, somebody screen capped."

I went to Twitter, and sure enough, there were pictures of fucking King Shark. And sure enough, it looked like legit. If you were ever gonna do a King Shark, it's like, that's it! Holy shit! I said, "I can't believe they had the balls to fucking try this. I thought you said this was a critically like revered show."

He's like, "Oh, the critics love it. It's got the ratings too."

I was like, "Then why would they fucking risk that with King Shark?" Like... Oh, my God! You've gotta have a lot of confidence to rock King Shark. That's like 12-inch dick confidence, man. You know, to be in your second season, be like, "Zip. King Shark. Deal with it."

And have people stay around and shit. I was like, "That's fucking impressive." I said, "Looks good. I gotta give this shit a watch." It really piqued my curiosity. I worked under the Smucker's logic. "With a name like Smucker's, it must taste like pussy." Or whatever the fuck it is.

Like... I was like, "If they're doing King Shark, it must be fucking watchable and shit." I kicked back and I downloaded the episode and I watched it, and goddamn it if it wasn't fucking good. I was like, "I'm gonna try another episode." I went back to the beginning and started watching all of The Flash, and I binge-watched.

I went into my office and just started fucking watching. Got real roped up in that shit 'cause it's all emotional and whatnot. And there was some shit that's connected to Arrow that I didn't understand. any time I was lost, I'd pause it and I would text Jason and be like, "Hey, man, they're talking about some island. What the fuck's this all about?"

And he'd be like, "Oh, that's where Ollie became the Green Arrow, let me tell you."

And then... he would send nine fucking paragraphs of backstory, and at first I thought, like, "Oh, man, I bet you he's just pulling this shit off Wikipedia." But he wrote it himself. I know this 'cause Arrow was spelled 12 different fucking ways throughout.

He'd tell me and I'd be like, "I got it." I'd go back to watching the show. And my wife would make fun of us and shit. 'Cause this was going on for a few days.

She was like, "Oh, look at you old ladies and your stories." She's like, "What are Nicky and Victor up to this week?" and shit.

I was like, "Fuck you, bitch. This is Flash."

I fell in love with the show big time, man. I got to the season finale of season one. And they built an incredible season with season one of The Flash. And the season finale's one of my favorite hours of television ever produced and shit. Didn't know that until I watched it. Jason Mewes knew it was good, so Jason goes, "You're almost at the fucking season finale." He goes, "You gotta fucking record yourself watching it."

I was like, "Like a reaction video?"

He goes, "Yeah, man, like the kids. You gotta be like a millennial, bitch."

And I was like, "Why would I do that?"

He's going, "Because it's a really good episode." He's going, "It's emotional. And you know me." He goes, "I don't cry at anything. But I know you. You cry at everything." He goes, "And I almost cried watching it, so it's gonna fucking tear you up, man. I wanna see what that shit looks like." I was like, "Okay."

And so when I sat down and watched the episode, I set up my phone to record myself. And you can see the video up online. I put it up on my website and stuff. I trimmed it, you don't have to watch the whole thing. But you watch me... like to say that I cry is like an understatement, like...

Crying, I think of crying as like, you know, a Native American by the side of the road going, "Garbage." You know, like that's... like a dignified solo tear and shit. This was just bawling, like fucking blubbering. Like... [moans] My tits were going up and down. fucking messy, snot running down my face. All over this fucking show.

And somebody sent the link to my mother, I guess, and my mother called me up, she goes, "Tiger, are you okay?"

I was like, "Yeah. What's the matter?"

She's like, "I saw you on a video on the internet and you were crying."

You know? I was like, "Ma, which one?" You know? I cry a lot and shit.

She goes, "You were watching The Flash and the boy's mom died."

I said, "Oh, Ma, this show, The Flash, is so fucking good." I said, "You gotta peep it out, man. It's really emotional. Yeah. It gets to me and stuff."

And my mother goes, "Jesus Christ! I just hope you cry that hard when I die."

I was watching it and loving the shit out of it. And I kept bugging Jason, it became our little thing and stuff. And so Jason's wife Jordan runs our company. And she's the one that sends me places and stuff, puts movies together, shows together. she was paying attention.

She called me up one day and she goes, "Uh, look, I see you keep texting with Jason about The Flash and you love it so much. And I saw that embarrassing crying video and stuff."

She's going, "it's clear you like The Flash. I hope this doesn't bug you, but I called up your agent and I said, 'Hey, Kevin really likes this show The Flash. Why don't you see if they'll let him direct an episode?'"

And I was like, "Why the fuck did you do that?" I said, "Oh, my God! Don't do that! That's so fucking embarrassing, man. I don't want no fucking handouts from the shirtless boy network. Like, no!" I was like, "I'm content to watch that show." I was like, "That's fucking embarrassing. Don't ever fucking do that again."

She goes, "Calm down, they said yeah."

I was like, "Good fucking job!" Oh, my God! I was like, "Way to think outside the box! That's fucking phenomenal, man."

Jason's in the background going, "My old lady got you a job, bitch!"

I was like, "Put him on the phone."

He's like, "Can you fucking believe this shit, man? You didn't even fucking watch the show and shit, and I told you to watch it, now you're going to fucking direct it, you gotta take me with you."

I said, "I don't know if I can fucking take you with me, dude. I just found out that I get to fucking go, that I got a job. I can't call them up and be like, 'Yeah, you gotta hire the other guy too. I don't know if you ever saw that movie, but we're a package deal.'"

He goes, "Well, I don't have to fucking be on the show. I just wanna go up with you, man, because they shoot Arrow up there and they shoot Flash up there, they shoot all the shows. I wanna see like Starling City, I wanna see Central City, I wanna see all the cities. You know."

He's like, "Just bring me. You can tell them I'm your assistant."

I'm like, "You kinda are my assistant."

I brought him up with me, man. We went to Vancouver, that's where they make the show. they write the show in Los Angeles, and they shoot the show up in Vancouver. And when I got up there, they gave me the script. And the script was fucking beautiful. It was written by Zack Stentz, beautiful script that actually tied into, a spiritual sequel of sorts, to my favorite episode of the show, the season finale of season one and shit. Played like a sequel.

I was like, "Oh, my God!" And good news: it's a show where, you know, the boy solves all his problems at one point by running really fucking fast.

sooner or later, there's an action sequence. And this didn't have a fuck ton of that. It was more people talking to each other. I was like, "I know how to do that shit. Oh, my God, this is gonna be fucking easy and stuff." I love the script, but while I was reading the script, in it there was a character reference named Jay. And I was like, "Oh, fuck. I'm gonna have fun with this shit, man."

I go over to Jason's room and I knock on the door. He's like, "What's up?" I was like, "Oh, my God! They wrote you into my script, dude, look!"

And he grabbed the fucking script, and you've never seen anyone get more excited in your life. And he goes, "I'm gonna be on the CW?"

And I realized it had gone too far. I was like, "No, man, no. No, no, I'm just kidding."

He goes, "What do you mean?"

I was like, "I was just bullshitting, man. I just fucking showed you 'cause there was a name in the script said Jay. I thought it was funny."

He goes, "How do you know it's not me?"

I was like, "'Cause it doesn't say 'and Silent Bob' after it, so... I'm relatively sure."

He goes, "Why would you fucking do that?"

I was like, "I just thought it was kinda funny."

He goes, "You're an asshole!" And closed the door. I was like, that was time well spent.

I went into work the next day, and I did this thing, it's called-- I've never done one of these before-- tone meeting. They do it in TV a lot, apparently. When you got a TV show that's up and running, when the director comes in they sit them down and have a tone meeting with them. that you know what the show is supposed to be or whatever.

I'm a huge fan, so I didn't think I needed one. But everybody does it, so they sit you down. They're in Los Angeles, you're in Vancouver. And they do it on Skype, like by this big TV.

Todd Helbing, who was the producer, he pops up on the screen, he's like, "Hey, man. How you doing?"

I was like, "Hey, how are you?"

He's like, "You ready for the tone meeting?"

I was like, "Fuck, yeah, man."

He's like, "Open your script. Scene one."

I was like, "Okay."

And he goes, "Kevin, the tone of scene one is, uh, it's happy. Everyone's happy in this scene."

And I was like, "Okay."

And he goes, "Great. Scene two." I go, "Okay."

And he goes, "Now, Kevin, everyone in this scene, they're sad. Everyone's very sad."

And I was like, "All right." And it went on like that for fucking every scene. He literally told me the general emotion of every fucking scene.

And I was like, "What happened in the history of television where this is necessary?" Like somebody fucking-- Some director was handed a script and fucking came back with something where he was like, "What do you mean Roots ain't a comedy?" And they were like, "What the fuck?" And they were like, "From now on, we gotta tell every director what the tone of every scene is and shit." we go through the whole fucking tone meeting.

He's like, "This scene's happy, this scene's sad." I'm like, "Okay, okay."

Finally we get to the scene outside the Big Belly Burger and shit, where that Jay character was. And he goes, "Okay, the scene outside the Big Belly Burger." He goes, "This is gonna be weird. Weird to have to say out loud, but I'm just gonna put it on Front Street. We wrote your friend Jay into this scene."

I said, "No way! Are you fucking shitting me, man?" I was like, "I was busting his balls yesterday going, 'This is you. Psyche!'" I was like, "Oh, my God!" I was like, "That's very nice." I said, "But weird. Like, why would you write him into the script like that?"

And he goes, "We just assumed he'd be with you."

I was like, "He is, man. Absolutely."

He goes, "Do you think he'll wanna do this?"

I was like, "Do I think he'll wanna fucking do it? He loves these CW shows, man. I'm shocked he didn't show up to your office, push you back in the chair, rip your dick out, be like, 'Whose cock do I gotta suck to be on The Flash?' Doing 'Goodbye Horses' with your dick and shit."

Todd Helbing's a writer too, he's funny. He goes, "Well, if I knew that was an option, I would have held out." He goes, "Do you think he'll do it?"

I was like, "Draw up the paperwork right now, man. This is a done deal. Trust me, this guy's gonna wanna fucking do this and shit like that." I went back to the room and stuff, knocked on his door, he's like, "What's up?" I was like, "Hey, man. I went to the tone meeting."

He goes, "How was that?"

I was like, "Fucking weird. Weird." I said, "But, in the middle of the tone meeting, man, we got to this scene and remember that fucking yesterday when I was like, 'Hey, man, you're in the script.'"

He goes, "Yeah, that was a dick move."

I was like, "Well, it may not be such a fucking dick move 'cause I just did the tone meeting and they told me that they did write you into that scene. And they asked me to come back here and ask you if you wanna be in my episode of The Flash."

Now, I've known Jason 30 years, I've seen him cry twice. Once on the birth of his daughter, his daughter Logan was born about three years ago, and shit like that. I got a picture of him holding this little baby bawling, he was so happy to be a dad, snot running down his face.

Second time I've ever seen him cry was after I was like, "You are gonna be on the CW." He started crying. This was his honest reaction. He goes, "I deserve this!"

We shot his scene the very first day. In the fucking schedule it was the first thing I ever directed on Flash, it was nice to have him there with me and stuff. He's usually there when I direct shit. it was nice to have him there. And it was a pretty quick scene, man. Like basically he shows up, everyone went fucking nuts. Like it was crazy. I don't think of him that way.

But like people on the cast and crew were like, "There's a legit movie star fucking coming." And I was like, "Where? Who? Him?! Holy shit."

Grant Gustin who plays the Flash, he was just like, "I can't believe you got him to do this." He goes, "How much money did you have to pay him?" I go, "Oh, no. It don't work like that at all." I was like, "In fact, go ask him to get you coffee. Watch him do it."

It was sweet, though, it's been fun fucking doing 'em.

But I honestly feel disingenuous. Like it feels weird to do the job because it doesn't feel like the way that I normally do the job. TV directing is a much bigger, or different deal. Easier deal to me, where I'm like, oh, there's not a lot of creative input or something like that. You have to find your way. Like what makes you... Like why are you there?

Like other than saying "action" and "cut," it seems arbitrary, anybody could fucking do that. You know, I had to find a place though how I could live in that world and feel useful.

And so, it first started happening I think when I was doing Supergirl. Um, we were-- we were doing some-- setting up some fucking big sequence at this pool. Uh, the giant, like, a community pool. And it was a big wide shot and whatnot. We're doing it like when the pool is closed so it's like two in the morning.

It's real late. So, you know, people are run down, we've had our "lunch." Which was at midnight or whatever. But people are getting tired because it's late and it's cold. So, you know, I was like, "Fuck man. I'm gonna get-- I'm gonna go get some burgers for my crew."

For the people on camera and stuff like that. 'Cause they're the ones that gotta be up and sharp. I was talking to the first AD, he was like new on the show, first time I'd ever met him and stuff. And I was like, "Hey, man. I was thinking about-- how long do you think this is gonna take?"

He's like, "I think we're gonna be ready to go in five minutes." "Hey, I'm gonna go grab some fucking burgers, man. Can you like, watch this?"

And he goes, "What do you mean, watch this?"

I was like, "Well, if you guys are ready, just start shooting without me."

He goes, "What an interesting way to direct a show by not being there at all."

I was like, "I know, but you guys do this shit every week without me. Let's be real. And it's a big wide shot, performance-- we're just doing it for the wide. It's the performance-- I'll be back for that and shit. You got this, right?"

He's like, "Sure, man. Go ahead."

And so I fucking got in the car and I left set and I drove down the road to-- In Canada, they got an A&W place. They do A&W burgers and root beer and shit. And it's-- they're amazing. It's my favorite burger on the fucking planet. they're open 24 hours. And they're like literally across the street from where we were shooting.

I rolled up on A&W at two in the morning. And I pull up to the box and shit. And they're like, "A&W, can I help you?" It's one guy.

And I said, "Uh, hi. Let me get 20 Buddy Burgers, man."

And the guy goes, "Yeah, right."

I was like, "No, I'm serious. 20 Buddy Burgers."

And he goes, "Pull up to the window so I can confirm your method of payment."

I said, "Okay, fair enough." And I went up to fucking next window and shit like that.

And he opened his window, I rolled mine down, and he goes, "Oh, it's you. Well, that makes sense."

I was like, "What the fuck's that mean, man?"

He's like, "That's a lot of burgers. And I heard you were in town."

I was like, "I-- they're not for me."

He was like, "I don't need to ask any questions."

I was like, "I'm getting them for the people on Supergirl." He's like, "I'm sure you are." I go, "20 burgers, man. How long is that supposed to take? 'Cause I'm supposed to be back in five minutes."

He goes, "20 burgers usually take about 20 minutes. But like if you will take a selfie with me, I'll do it in ten."

I was like, "If you'll do it in ten, I'll fucking blow you, man."

And he goes, "The selfie will be fine, Mr. Smith."

I said, "Fantastic." I waited by the side, he cooked up fucking 20 burgers and shit.

Came out with two big bags, gave them to me. He's like, "Thanks." We took a selfie and shit. Off I went, back to the place.

I was like, "Yay, burgers!" And I started giving out burgers and shit. And soon the burgers were fucking gone. And I was like, "Oh, fuck. I didn't get enough." I said, "If I do this again, I gotta get more." Some crew members were like, "Where's the burgers?" I was like, "Oh, they ate them all." They're like, "Fucking A." And walked away.

I was like, "Fuck man. Let me see if I can fucking get some burgers going and shit like that tomorrow."

Next day, we were shooting late again. Like it was one in the morning and stuff. And so, you know, I was bored again on set at a certain point, everybody's working. I don't really have anything to do. I was like, maybe I'll go get 'em some fucking burgers, man. I'll roll up on the burger joint again. It's right across the street. I pull up and I hear, uh, "Welcome to A&W. Can I help you?"

I said, "Hey. Let me get 40 Buddy Burgers."

And the guy, it's not the guy from the other night. He goes, "What, are you high?" And I wanted to tell him "Yes." But I wanted to finish the fucking transaction.

I was like, "No, no, no." I was like, "I-- no. I do want this."

And he goes, "Please drive up to the next window to confirm your method of payment."

I drive up to the window, he opens his up and mine, he goes, "Oh, I heard about you. I get it now." I said, "What do you mean?"

He's going, "You were here last night."

I said, "That's right. I ordered 20 burgers."

He's like, "Yeah. The guy last night, he's a big fan and stuff. He's been showing everybody the picture."

I was like, "Right on." I said, "Well, I'm back for more."

He goes, "What do you want?" I said, "Can I get 40 Buddy Burgers, man?"

He goes, "Okay. Give me your credit card." I showed him. He's like,

"All right." I said, "How long is that gonna take?"

He's like, "40 burgers, 40 minutes."

I was like, "Oh, well, the guy yesterday, man, he said 20 burgers takes 20 minutes. But he did it in ten and shit."

And he goes, "That's 'cause the other guy's a big fan."

Understood, captain. You know... I went and waited. 40 minutes later, man, they brought out my fucking Buddy Burgers. Big bags and shit like that. I said thank you. I went back to work and shit. I was like, "Hey! Fucking burgers for everybody!" Everyone's like happy to get them. It's crazy, man. It's really sweet. Like, it's... I don't know why, they're like, "Oh, my God. This is nice."

And I'm like, "It's $1.99 burger." I tell them all. I'm like, look, man, I'm gonna go home and they're gonna give me so much fucking credit for directing this episode. We all know I didn't do shit. The least thing I could do is buy you a fucking burger. And McCloud, the AD, is like, "Fucking A."

it was great. Like people, it really cheers people up and shit like that. It's perfect walking around food. When you're done, you just throw the paper out and shit like that.

But I ran out of burgers, 40 wasn't enough. There was still some people that didn't get any. I was like, "Fuck! Next time I gotta go fucking higher and shit." we had one more night of night shoots and shit. it's about two in the morning and at one point, I rolled up to McCloud, the AD, and I was like, "Hey, McCloud."

He goes, "Go ahead. Just get me three burgers."

I was like, "Will do, man."

I got in the car, and I went back to fucking A&W and shit. And I pull up to the box and I was like, "Hi, man. I'm-- let me get 70 Mama Burgers, please."

And the guy goes, "Right away, Mr. Smith."

I'd built something of a reputation of sorts and stuff. So, you know, I was like, "Oh, fuck. This is great." I said, "You know what? I'm gonna go deeper tonight." I said, "70 Mama Burgers. Let me get like 40 French fries as well."

And he goes, "Okay."

I said, "20 onion rings."

He goes, "Right on."

And I'm looking at the menu board, like I've been going to A&W three nights in a row. And since I stay away from sugar, I've been trying not to succumb to the temptation because like I love root beer. It's one of my favorite things in the world. I love sugar. I love sugar on anything. You put it on dog shit, I'm like this is the best. But root beer is one of my favorites. And they market it so well. Like the orange and brown just like makes you salivate and shit, like a Pavlovian response.

And all these days and nights I've been able to not fucking get a root beer. But I'm like, it's fucking two in the morning, man. And like you're buying everyone these burgers. And like it's like your mom said: you're a good boy. You know? Like... You fucking-- you deserve a treat, man. Why don't you get yourself a fucking root beer, champ.

And I was like, "Let me add to that, man. I wanna add one small diet root beer."

And he starts laughing, the guy in the ordering box. I said, "What's the matter?"

He goes, "Look at the screen." And I looked at the screen, it said 70 Mama Burgers, 40 French fries, 20 onion rings, one small diet root beer." He goes, "That looks like the worst diet ever attempted." He goes, "I'm totally Instagramming that."

I pull up to the fucking window and shit, give him my credit card, it's my friend from the first night and shit, the guy I took pictures with. I was like, "Hey, man. It's you." He's like, "Mr. Smith, I gotta tell you."

I said, "Look, first off, Mr. Smith is my father. Just call me Kevin."

He goes, "Kevin, I gotta tell you, I've been telling my manager that you've been coming every night and that you've been buying these burgers. And my manager asked me to ask you if you wanna give us one of your jerseys, we'll hang it up here in the A&W."

And I was like, "Are you telling me you wanna raise my fucking jersey to the rafters of an A&W Root Beer?" I was like, "That's the highest honor a non-Canadian can receive."

So, um, so I found my place, like that's what I do. I bring shit. I bring food for people, I bring toys for the actors. That's how I do the actors and shit like that. I learned that when I was on Supergirl at one point. I had like a break, lunch break, and rather than sit around and eat lunch, like I smoked lunch. And then we were near a Toys 'R' Us, so I went stoner shopping and stuff like that.

And, you know, I had a basket so I kept throwing in shit. Everything under five bucks, little trinkets and shit like that. And so I bought like a book of stickers, puffy animal stickers.

We went back to shoot a scene with Chyler, who plays Supergirl's sister, Alex, and with Melissa, who plays Supergirl. And so we were about to rehearse, do a blocking rehearsal, and I had one of the puffy stickers, I had it on my finger and I walked up to the two ladies and I was like, "Ladies, you see this puffy dog sticker? Whoever wins this scene wins the sticker." It was adorable.

Chyler goes, "You're going down, bitch." You know, fucking... And they did, they fucking out-acted each other, like wizards fighting and shit like that. All for the puffy sticker. And at the end, I was like you both get a puffy sticker. And Chyler was like, "That wasn't the rule."

But how I direct is I bring food for everybody and give them toys and shit. I'm more of like a craft service person, you know. Or a candy man than anything else.

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Javicia Leslie (BATWOMAN) will be on THE FLASH, so that's one show addressed. Hopefully, some of the LEGENDS gang will show up too.

I'm sad that STARGIRL is cancelled, but I feel we could look at it not as a TV show that was cancelled at three seasons, but as a TV event trilogy that had a beginning, a middle and an end.

I like ARROW and THE FLASH a lot (yes, still), but I have to say: there are a number of ARROW seasons and many FLASH seasons that were just hammering out more product on the TV assembly line to sell more units of ad time. STARGIRL wasn't like that. Every season and every episode had a narrative and creative purpose. An insight beyond executing the formula. A point beyond filling a timeslot.

Time has been hard on STARGIRL executive producer and creator Geoff Johns. Actor Ray Fisher (Cyborg in JUSTICE LEAGUE) has accused Johns of racism in calling the Snyder version of Cyborg "an angry black man" and he accused Johns of permitting and enabling Whedon's abuse and harassment on JUSTICE LEAGUE. Johns was effectively fired from Warner Bros. after the Whedon cut of JUSTICE LEAGUE failed at box office. Johns is no longer in a leadership position for DC's films.

Johns was able to keep working on numerous DC movies and shows because he was individually contracted to each project as a consultant (AQUAMAN, SHAZAM, BIRDS OF PREY, WW1984) and as a writer-producer (all the CW and HBO Max DC shows).

Johns didn't respond directly to Fisher's accusations. A Johns-spokesperson said that Johns' comments were standard story and character notes and that racial implications were not intended. My suspicion: I think Johns is probably an okay guy who, like any white person of privilege, has blindspots of sensitivity. I don't believe there is hate in his heart, but there was probably a failure to recognize how his communication with Fisher regarding Cyborg was disrespectful to the lived experience of a black man.

I don't believe that Johns is a Klansman or anything, but I believe Fisher; I believe that Johns spoke poorly and without sensitivity or respect for the relationship that Fisher had with Snyder where Snyder drew on Fisher's lived experience.

I also think that Johns turned a blind eye to Whedon's behaviour: he may have been starstruck by Whedon and misread Whedon's toxic behaviour for sardonic humour (as I certainly have).

Johns has kept his head down since JUSTICE LEAGUE, returning to (lower paid) comic book work and writing FLASHPOINT BEYOND and some creator owned comics, running STARGIRL, serving as "executive producer" on SUPERMAN AND LOIS, DOOM PATROL and TITANS (probably just reviewing scripts, monitoring production, and offering feedback and suggestions and the occasional rewrite if asked).

I believe that STARGIRL represents Geoff Johns and that Geoff Johns is STARGIRL the show (the character of Stargirl is his sister). STARGIRL is heartfelt, inclusive, joyful, warm, loving and kind. I hope that Johns finds a way to make things right with Fisher if he can, and continues to produce good work. That said, I reserve to retract all of the above if more accusations from others come out. Don't let me down, Geoff. Don't be another Whedon. Be good.

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ireactions wrote:

I've said it before and I'll say it again: SLIDERS is fundamentally a sitcom and the best reboot is Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo running a hamburger joint specializing in mini hamburgers. Quinn handles the grill and deep fryer. Wade is the cashier. Rembrandt is the cleaner and inventory organizer. Arturo is the manager. They are the staff of Sliders. This is also the plot of SLIDERS REBORN: Part 6: "Regenesis". (No, really, that is the plot.)

You joke (kinda) but I wonder if this premise works in some manner.  I don't think it would work as a literal reboot of Sliders, but I think you could add a parallel Earth angle and this totally works as a show.

Imagine Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt, and Arturo are all unstuck.  Not only that, but the hamburger joint itself is unstuck.  At random times (that Quinn and Arturo can time on a timer), the restaurant itself and the sliders are transported to a different parallel Earth.  Because of whatever science-y nonsense, the restaurant and the Sliders exist on every Earth they travel to, and there are always a Quinn/Wade/Rembrandt/Arturo on every Earth.

I maintain that the plot of SLIDERS REBORN: Part 6 - "Regenesis" revolves around Sliders Incorporated, the company that Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo have started that specializes in mini hamburger vending machines which have become a 3D printed snack sensation. Slider_Quinn21 came in as the script editor for the sixth and final part and did an excellent job, particularly with the hamburger-driven storyline.

I think it'd be neat if in a reboot (recast characters, they discover sliding for the first time), Quinn refers to sliding as "quantum gravimetric transvibrational repositioning" and "QGTR" for short. Rembrandt tells him no one will remember that. Later, everyone is regrouping at the Lamplighter bar and they are seated at a table.

QUINN: " ... and the chronometer for the quantum gravimetric transvibrational respositioning process can recharge using exotic matter."

REMBRANDT: "That process?"

QUINN: "That's what makes interdimensional travel possible. I call it the QGTR manifold equation process for short."

REMBRANDT: "That's the short version!? Q-Ball, you need one word! Something can be a verb and an adjective."

QUINN: "I like the QGTR manifold equation process, it's a perfect name."

The waiter approaches.

WAITER: "Hi! Just give me two minutes for our menu to update and I'll be right with you. Half price sliders today!"

REMBRANDT: "Sliders! Sliding! Q-Ball, that's the name for your coronary grad school whatsit! Call it sliding!"

QUINN: "We're not calling it sliding! Professor! Tell him! It makes interdimensional travel sound like a park for little kids!"

ARTURO: (good-naturedly) "Now, Mr. Mallory, I find that 'sliding' has the benefit of being a mere two syllables."

WADE: "And since we're sliding, we could call ourselves the sliDERS."

QUINN: "We are not naming quantum gravimentric transvibrational repositioning after a mini-hamburger!"

WADE: (very condescendingly) "Boy, sliding is making you cranky; let's get you some sliders and make you a happy slider."

ARTURO: (almost sadistically) "Sliding has spurred a craving; I find myself partial to the onion rings."

REMBRANDT: (happily) "And the go-to slider for a hungry slider is a slider with pickles and a touch of that ol' bacon."

WADE: "I'll go for the vegetarian slider which is the perfect slider for a vegetarian slider."

QUINN: (bleakly) "I can see that this is going to stick."

I think it would be a really funny running joke if, for the bulk of the first season, Quinn loathes the term "sliding" and "sliders" and Rembrandt constantly uses it for no reason other than to annoy Quinn.

I think it would be neat if, in the Season 1 finale, Quinn does something clever and heroic and declares, "We're the sliders," finally embracing the term.

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James Gunn has been made head of the DC film division.
https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a4183 … s-dc-boss/

Henry Cavill has signed for MAN OF STEEL II, but Zack Snyder won't return to direct. No director or writer have been hired as of yet.
https://screenrant.com/superman-dcu-fut … ames-gunn/

Cavill also resigned from THE WITCHER and will be recast with Liam Hemsworth (brother of Chris).

While David Zaslav has been slashing and burning TV projects and low budget film projects, I can't imagine James Gunn working with DC unless he's been assured that he'll have reasonable blockbuster stability for his projects.

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STARGIRL is cancelled. The Season 3 finale has been written and filmed as a series finale.
https://deadline.com/2022/10/dcs-stargi … 235158715/

SUPERMAN AND LOIS may not make it to a fourth season either, unfortunately. The economics that allowed shows like SUPERNATURAL to run 15 years simply aren't in place anymore, leading to LEGENDS and BATWOMAN being cancelled and now STARGIRL being cancelled.

Oddly, the new BATMAN animated series made for HBO Max is not going to be on HBO Max. Warner Bros. Discovery felt they could make more money selling it to a broadcaster or streamer than they could in HBO Max subscriptions.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: SLIDERS is fundamentally a sitcom and the best reboot is Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo running a hamburger joint specializing in mini hamburgers. Quinn handles the grill and deep fryer. Wade is the cashier. Rembrandt is the cleaner and inventory organizer. Arturo is the manager. They are the staff of Sliders. This is also the plot of SLIDERS REBORN: Part 6: "Regenesis". (No, really, that is the plot.)

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Bryan Fuller (HEROES, WONDERFALLS, PUSHING DAISIES, HANNIBAL) is doing FRIDAY THE 13th: https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/31/234 … ck-prequel

I wonder how long he'll last on this one. Fuller is a brilliant writer, but after his firings from STAR TREK DISCOVERY, AMERICAN GODS and AMAZING STORIES, it's clear that something is not right here.

This is not related to his firings, but Bryan Fuller has proven highly indiscreet in matters that demand privacy. Fuller, at the LGBTQ festival Outfest, gave a speech about how an unnamed actor on an unnamed show abruptly left the series just before his character was to be revealed as gay which Fuller found ironic as this actor himself was gay but closeted. Fuller withholding the show title and actor's name were irrelevant; Fuller provided sufficient detail to identify the show as HEROES and the actor as Thomas Dekker (SARAH CONNOR).

https://variety.com/2022/tv/columns/swi … 235225805/

Dekker's homosexuality was not Fuller's to divulge.

This incident has nothing to do with Fuller having been fired from a lot of shows, but it indicates that Fuller has a serious disregard for the private safety and well-being of his employees, colleagues and co-workers and there is likely some connection between Fuller's conduct here and Fuller's conduct when working on the other projects from which he was dismissed.

Kevin Smith on 'talent':

... there’s always people that will come up to me after the show, say very nice things. Uh, very cool things about like, “Oh, my God. It’s so… you’re so talented.” That’s the one that really fucking bugs me and shit like that. And not because I’m irritated by it. But when you say shit like “talent,” it makes people go like, “Oh, you’re special and this person’s not.”

I don’t agree with that.

I don’t really do anything that requires talent. I just kind of chase my dreams. Anything I wanna try, I give a shot to and stuff. Before I get out of the show, I always like to remind people, like, you can do that too. Like, at the end of the day, this doesn’t require fucking talent.

Invariably, somebody will say to me, before the night is over, “Oh, my God. It’s so talented how you can stand up there and talk for so long.” And I’m like, “That doesn’t take talent to talk and tell stories about my life. That just takes a memory. Like that’s… that’s it. That doesn’t require talent.”

My day job doesn’t even take talent. You think it takes talent to stand on a movie set and wear a backwards baseball cap and a trench coat and say nothing? That’s the exact opposite of fucking talent, man. I said I’ll take it one step further. It doesn’t take talent at all to work in the movie business.

You think it takes fucking talent to stand on a movie set and be like, “I’m Batman” -- ?! Ben Affleck does it, so I know it don’t take fucking talent.

Don’t let people use like a word like that to put shit between you and something you wanna try. This doesn’t take talent. It doesn’t take talent to talk about your fucking life. Over the course of your life, you’ve listened to people talk on the radio, or seen people talk on TV, and you’ve said to yourself or thought to yourself, “I’m smarter than these people. I’m funnier than this person.”

You’re probably thinking that shit right now.

And you’re probably right, man, but nobody’s gonna know unless you kinda go out there and express yourself in some way, shape or form. Share of yourself. Now, some people don’t want to ’cause they’re afraid that it might not work and shit like that. Like, “Oh, what if I fail?”

But there is no such thing as fucking failure. Failure is just success training. I know that sounds like a cat poster, but it’s fucking true. Like, nobody ever fucking gets something right on the first try and shit. Don’t be afraid of failure. Don’t let that keep you from trying something that you might wanna try and stuff like that.

Rather fail spectacularly than live your life wondering, like, “I wonder if that shit would have worked out.”

That’s how I’ve just kind of conducted myself for the last like 20, 25 years. And it’s led on this weird fucking journey. I know there are people in the audience that are like, “I kinda wanna do what you do.”

And you absolutely fucking can. I’m gonna tell you something that maybe like you don’t hear that much anymore, ’cause you’re adults and shit, and it’s our job to say this to younger people and shit. But this is the truest sentiment a stranger’s gonna fucking tell you this week, so fucking get ready.

You are smart and good. You’re all fucking talented. You all have something amazing to fucking say. So… find a way… Find a way to fucking share that.

- from Silent But Deadly

Shortly after this speech, Kevin Smith had a heart attack from which he recovered; he lived to direct THE FLASH another day.

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You know, I brushed off my COVID bivalent booster quite easily, but this year's flu shot has really taken it out of me. I fell asleep watching LOWER DECKS.

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A lot of people will get a COVID vaccination with no perceptible reaction. The vaccine is still working; the immune system of these particular people are is able to incorporate this specific dose of vaccine without raising the 'volume' of the body's defense mechanisms. However, in my case, the pharmacist did warn me that I wouldn't be getting the same protection of a booster as people who waited six months rather than 3.5..

It's possible that TF's theory is correct, but NBC didn't just have the episode reshot and moved back; they proceeded to fire the original showrunners and had Martin Gero take over and rework the original series premiere, so it's very possible that any stylistic flourishes you've enjoyed in later episodes and in this reworked version come from the new showrunner and not his predecessors. Note that you haven't enjoyed the earliest episodes that he had little influence over but your enjoyment has risen with newer episodes and with Gero taking charge.