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Do I need to watch all 130 episodes of the original series to understand REVELATION?

I am a big Kevin Smith fan's podcasts and articles, but I find his movies to be good scripts that are very poorly directed (although his work on THE FLASH has been fine).

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Grizzlor wrote:

Well again there's a further trade off between mask efficiency and where you are and who you are with.  If the space is well ventilated, and your time there is short, you probably don't even need a mask.

Nobody test this theory.

Grizzlor wrote:

I was reading something the other day, and of course now can't find it, that vaccinated people may have similar viral loads to unvaccinated, but that the virus is actually not culturable at all, or for a much shorter time.

This is the study:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 … 21262158v1

This is a web article on the study:
https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/202 … ious-covid

The upshot of the study is that while vaccinated and infected people were contagious, their viral particle count dropped within three days. In contrast, an unvaccinated and infected patient is contagious for 10 - 20 days.

Grizzlor wrote:

Many doctors believe that a booster may well be the final COVID shot you need take, since the immune system has had time to develop defenses, and such after the booster.

I don't know anything about this at all, but I'd like to believe it. I don't know if it's true. But I'll march my mother to get a third dose as soon as she's eligible. In the meantime, I'm carrying extra boat shaped ASTM3 masks in my bag and restocking on hand sanitizer and watching BLACK WIDOW in VR at home.

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I was rewatching some of the LOIS AND CLARK episodes on DVD and I noticed -- the video quality also drops whenever there is a special effect. The DVD transfer is pretty solid, a decent 7/10 as an upscaled DVD. But when Superman flies or when there's any effect that requires recomposition or wire removal or any sort of overlay, the video quality suddenly goes to about 5.5/10.

I think what happened is that LOIS AND CLARK was shot on film and, like most TV shows in 1993, transferred to videotape for editing and visual effects. However, it looks like any shots requiring special effects was transferred to a different video suite than the one used for editing, and the special effects video suite's image quality seems a significant step down from the editing-only video suite. As a result, on HBO Max, the video quality will switch from 10/10 to 5.5/10.

If the videotape-stored effects shot had maintained the same 7/10 quality as the non-effects shots, it's likely that the effects could have been upscaled to 7/10 to 8/10 and the loss of video quality could have been... well, honestly, it would still be pretty jarring.

Ultimately, he loss of video quality when using a special effects shot is present in the original broadcast versions of LOIS AND CLARK, so the HBO Max version has in some ways preserved the original schizophrenia of what aired on ABC.

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The actual study: https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

The study's review of surgical masks is extremely concerning to me: 47 per cent filtration when the material was wrapped around an outlet pipe is shockingly poor. However, the study specifies that N95 and KN95 masks have electrostatic filtration -- and then equates surgical masks with cloth masks as lacking that filtration. This indicates they used a surgical without electrostatic layers, so their study doesn't review surgical masks that do have the filtration.

I've seen electrostatic surgical mask tests with Collins and Duke University where the material itself filtered 90 to 98 per cent. As I've said earlier, every time I buy a new quantity of surgical masks, I'll cut one open to make sure it has an electrostatic filter. I've found one brand that lacked the electrostatic layer and simply don't buy it any more.

The study rates KN95 inhalation filtration at 95 per cent and N95 filtration (referred to as R95 in the study) at 96 per cent protection for the wearer. Their exhalation filtration is rated at 46 per cent for KN95 and 60 per cent for KN95 -- which is protection for those around the wearer. The study does not review KF94 masks (thankfully, we've had Aaron Collins for that) and those masks are rated at 98 per cent filtration for the Kleannara.

The study also doesn't account for how KN95 masks have extremely poor quality control with over 70 per cent of them filtering less than 95 per cent; some as low as 40 although some hover in the 93 - 94 per cent range.

Anyway. As Grizzlor says, N95 masks are excellent.

KN95 masks are a gamble. KF94 is great. And surgical -- if you can make sure that the filter is present by cutting one open to check and if you can put on some cord locks to tighten up the fit, those are also good. I would just go with KF94: affordable in high quantities for a rotation, no modifications needed, widely available, stringently reviewed before export from Korea.

My personal choice of an ASTM3 mask is more for my specific face than it is a general recommendation and my ASTM3s are sold out anyway.

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Did some more small experiments with upscaling DVD release of LOIS AND CLARK (just the pilot episode's special effects sequences) to 720p. It's interesting. When I AI upscale 480p video to 720p, it looks presentable on a widescreen 55 inch HDTV, but it doesn't look like 720p. It looks like a DVD that has had all of the flaws of stretching the video to 1080p somehow toned down and removed: there is no blockiness, jagged edges are smoothed out, the image is clear even if it isn't perfectly crisp. There's a quality to the video that could be considered a glossy sheen or a hazy fog, depending on how charitable you want to be.

In the HBO Max version of LOIS AND CLARK, all the non-special effects sequences are devoid of this fog; they are crisp and sharp until Superman has to fly or fire heat vision at which point the video develops that hazy fog along with some blurry blockiness (which an AI upscale would have removed). An upscaled version of LOIS AND CLARK (and SLIDERS) doesn't compare to a 1080p scan of the original film -- but the waxy quality of the video is consistent in both non-effects and effects shots, so it isn't jarring to go back and forth whereas the genuine HD versions of these shows do have that incoherence.

BABYLON 5 got the same upscale job as LOIS AND CLARK: a rescan of the original film, but the special effects were taken off the master tapes and stretched to 1080p. However, B5's effects even when originally broadcast looked like videogame graphics representing spaceships in battle. They were computer generated animations with limited texture. They didn't look like physical objects; they looked like animatics. The special effects always had a different visual tone from the shots of the actors. When the special effects shots are stretched to 1080p size and lightly sharpened, they maintain pretty much the same quality they originally had.

In contrast, LOIS AND CLARK's special effects needed to combine practical shots of Dean Cain in the Superman costume with effects that had to be produced on video (background recompositions, laser effects, superimposed fog for freeze breath, etc.), so Dean Cain goes from being a sharply rendered 1080p image to a fuzzy DVD image every time Superman uses any superpowers. If SLIDERS is ever remastered this way, it means that any time the sliders come in and out of the vortex or trigger the timer, the image will go from sharp to blurry.

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I've been watching LOIS AND CLARK: THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN (1993 - 1997) on HBO Max. It's been remastered to high definition -- mostly. It looks like Warner Bros. took the original film on which LOIS AND CLARK was shot, rescanned the film to 1080p (in 4:3) and rebuilt every episode digitally. However, any time a shot has any kind of post production effect, a composite, a greenscreen background -- those shots are clearly taken from the master tapes (480p video) and stretched to 1080p.

As a result, Lois and Clark walking the streets of Metropolis or through the Daily Planet bullpen is rendered in crisp, hyperdetailed clarity, but Superman flying through the sky or firing heat vision suddenly looks like a fuzzy, dull, faded VHS cassette stretched to a larger screen. I've tried running these shots through an AI upscaler and the results look... ah, pretty much the same.

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Afghanistan is a bad situation. I don't know what else to say about it right now except everyone's views here seem valid.

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I don't know that the longevity of our love for SLIDERS is anything that requires reverence, but I do think we should bow to facts and not flood the SLIDERS community with false information about the show.

I don't doubt, Grizzlor, that you know exactly who Francisco Herrera is, but I don't want to attack his professional prospects by putting his real name in an account of his insistence on defending rape fantasies that could be harmful when employers look him up.

I accept full responsibility for how things with Francisco Herrera started in 2018. I don't think it was my fault that it ended up the way it did in 2021. Nobody forced him to flood the Discord channel with savage insistence that David Peckinpah's unprofessionalism, sexual harassment and non-existent script editing should never be raised or discussed or critiqued.

I wasn't even responding to him; he did that of his own accord because hearing Trumpists declared as abusively harassing liars apparently made him feel he had to defend himself by being an abusively harassing liar with the lies being so petty and easily fact-checked (like whether or not Allison Mack did every episode of SMALLVILLE's tenth season or whether or not a new actor recently played the First Doctor in DOCTOR WHO).

I'm not sure if Francisco Herrera understands that he became a Trumpist cliche in a SLIDERS context by claiming David Peckinpah and Bill Dial should be elevated to sainthood. He continued to bleat that Peckinpah and Dial should never be questioned and lied about Dial not knowing Season 5 was the end and I don't know if he actually believes that. He may or may not, but he kept saying that because it obviously enraged him that I wouldn't respond to him, wouldn't speak to him, wouldn't acknowledge that he even existed. He was hoping his lies would trigger a response from me and got himself kicked off the server and I suppose he did get me to respond, but only after he was gone.

I absolutely started it and I accept responsibility for that, but I'm not responsible for how someone offended by Trumpists being viewed as as deranged, deceitful abusers decided that the best way to disprove that would be to embark on a deranged course of deceitful abuse. Francisco Herrera was probably like this long before Christmas 2018.

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I think that is something to contemplate.

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This is not about masks or Afghanistan but, oddly, is about SLIDERS and Trumpism.

In 2018, I had an episode of blackout rage where on a SLIDERS Facebook group, a person I'll call Francisco Herrera called Temporal Flux a liar because Temporal Flux shared so much anecdotal behind the scenes information about SLIDERS that Herrera couldn't imagine anyone being able to find and therefore, Temporal Flux had to be making it all up. Herrera told people to go to EarthPrime.com for "the real story" which is hilarious because EarthPrime.com's behind the scenes information doesn't contradict Temporal Flux in any area.

I was furious that my friend was being attacked with EP.COM as a cudgel especially when I'd spent a lot of time converting a box of Sci-Fi Channel press clippings to EP.COM content. I proceeded to post 10 separate links in the Facebook group linking to EP.COM where TF had gotten the info first, each time tagging Herrera. Herrera proceeded to reply, "I have been tagged with at least TEN NOTIFICATIONS today," he wrote. "Nobody needs this on Christmas Day! If you want to keep posting links to EarthPrime, LEAVE ME OUT OF IT!"

The moderator told me to desist and I agreed. Later, I decided I had to get the hell out of this ridiculous Facebook group because posters kept slut-shaming Kari Wuhrer for having performed nude scenes (nonsensically insulting her for producing the material they clearly sought out and enjoyed). Also, the posters there inexplicably rallied behind some scam artist claiming that he was pitching a revival of SLIDERS (an NBCUniversal property) to the Canadian Broadcasting Company (which has no tie to NBCUniversal) and that he was sure he could convince the Canadian Broadcasting Company to buy the rights to SLIDERS. This person didn't have so much as a TV commercial to their name and also bragged that he was going to be contacting David Peckinpah and Kari Weir to return as their characters.

Anyway. Recently, Hererra showed up in the SLIDERS Discord. While civil at first, he remarked on my psychotic episode against him and I confirmed that his account was accurate and that he'd upset me. Then abruptly, Herrera stopped being civil when I said I had been talking to a SLIDERS crew member who shall be nameless, but I had stopped talking to them and become uncomfortable when this crew member had been retweeting pro-Trump posts.

"I'm sick of people demonizing Trump voters," Hererra said. "Your president did good things for your country. You have to accept it."

I said it was interesting that Herrera assumed he could only be talking to Americans in an internet forum when the SLIDERS Discord is actually run by a Canadian and a Scotswoman and defined a failure to support Donald Trump as treason. I also remarked that Donald Trump supporters were largely composed of abusive, harrassing liars.

Herrera proceeded to call me a "virtue signaler" and "an elitist." I promptly blocked him, but I noticed that he was responding to my every comment afterwards which I would read 4 - 6 hours later.

I commented on DOCTOR WHO having recently recast the First Doctor. Herrera shrieked at me that the Doctor had been recast in 1966, not recently, and said I should get my facts right. I guess his hurried Google search missed how David Bradley had played the First Doctor in 2017.

I remarked that Allison Mack had left SMALLVILLE in Season 9; Hererra told me that Allison Mack had "completed" all 10 seasons of SMALLVILLE, clearly having never watched the show and unaware that Mack only did six episodes out of 22 in Season 10.

I commented that Jerry O'Connell didn't seem too picky about projects these days having done lots of pilots and voicework and web videos and he shrieked at me that Jerry O'Connell was worth millions. "He gets paid more than YOU!" A very odd attempt at an insult as the vast majority of people in the world have less than 20 million dollars.

I didn't respond to him. The moderator asked Herrera to desist and I also apologized to Herrera for my behaviour on Facebook in 2018, then put him on mute again, reading his comments hours after he'd send them.

I commented later that David Peckinpah's concern for safety standards on SLIDERS had been shockingly poor, hiring a non-union stunt worker in Season 5 despite poor safety having already gotten Ken Steadman killed in Season 3. Hererra told me that it was outrageous for me to criticize David Peckinpah in any way because Peckinpah had built an excellent career before SLIDERS.

I remarked that "The Exodus" had been essentially a two week rock concert for the cast and crew to enjoy Roger Daltrey's band (The Who) with filming episodes done between binge drinking and spoke to Peckinpah's addiction issues; Herrera told me that it was ridiculous for me to speak poorly of Peckinpah given Peckinpah's mental health.

I noted that Peckinpah writing rape fantasies about Sabrina Lloyd into "Genesis" was shockingly unprofessional; Herrera declared that I had no right to evaluate Peckinpah's writing at all because Peckinpah was dead.

I didn't respond to him. The moderator informed Herrera that criticism of David Peckinpah was not in any way unreasonable or off limits.

I was later talking about how the Season 5 team had known SLIDERS would be cancelled and Herrera called me a liar, saying that Bill Dial had not known about the cancellation until after filming "The Seer."

I didn't respond to him. The moderator pointed Herrera to Keith Damron's blog posts citing that Season 5 had 18 episodes simply to reach syndication and end it, that a series finale story had been plotted, and also pointed to actor interviews where they themselves said Bill Dial believed Season 5 would be the final season. Herrera replied that Dial had wanted the show to come back, not addressing how Dial had known full well that it wouldn't.

The moderator proceeded to kick Herrera off the SLIDERS Discord for posting blatant falsehoods about SLIDERS.

Let's take a moment to appreciate how a Trumpist became angry about being described as an abusive, harassing liar and so proceeded to engage in a campaign of abuse, harassment and lies. This Trumpist declared that anyone who is worth less than $20 million is a target to be attacked. This Trumpist decreed that David Peckinpah's stewardship of SLIDERS should never, ever, ever be criticized in any way shape or form and that David Peckinpah writing rape fantasies about Sabrina Lloyd into SLIDERS scripts isn't something to be judged harshly.

Anyway. I apologized to the Discord moderator, saying that this situation was entirely my fault because I'd antagonized a crazy person in 2018 and they came after me in 2021 and did it on the SLIDERS Discord. And I gave the moderator my word that I would stop creating enemies this way because they apparently show up later on her server.

Since then, I've been dealing with the Herreras of the world by speaking to moderators and administrators and not making myself a target that they'll pursue to the ends of the SLIDERS community.

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Afghanistan isn't masks, so I'm not qualified to really analyze it right now. Every editorial I've seen saying Biden was wrong to withdraw is written from a pro-war standpoint which I don't hold with. Every editorial I've seen saying Afghanistan was unwinnable and pointless and that there is never a good time end an already lost far pays little attention to the civilians who will suffer. I am not capable of offering any measured, considered perspective, so I'm simply reading and listening.

*petulant tone* Sabrina Lloyd says she'd be happy to return to SLIDERS and if Sabrina says she's in, then she's in. Sabrina wouldn't lie to me!

https://www.voicesvisions.net/episodes/sabrinalloyd

In this June 2021 podcast, Sabrina Lloyd says that she left acting because Hollywood was a lousy environment for a woman, but she still likes acting and would be happy to return to SLIDERS.

She has heard that Jerry and John have been "shopping it around," but she is genuinely at a loss as to how all the characters could be restored and doubtful that any studio or broadcaster would want to hire her and her castmates to headline a new revival or reboot. "We're all so old," she explains. But she says she would do it if asked so long as it didn't take her away from her children for too long and she'd ideally like to do a short six episode run.

So, Sabrina's in!

The most important thing in SLIDERS to me is the specific relationships and pairings that the show used. I wonder how Quinn and Arturo relate to each other as Quinn has become more seasoned and Arturo has become less insecure, and I wonder what kind of friendship Rembrandt and Wade have today.

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And it'd be wonderful to see them in the basement lab again.

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Under various tests, the electrostatic charge has mostly broken down due to liquid, aerosol and particle exposure from inhaling and exhaling. Air exposure in storage has proven to be irrelevant at least within a four month period.

When an electrostatic layer gets soaked, it loses its static properties. (This rarely happens because a mask has an outer water resistant layer.) But every time you breathe through a mask, you are expelling moisture in your breath. The moisture goes through the mask. This is a very low level of moisture, but the droplets in your breath which will gradually cause the charge to lessen over time.

The other charge-reducing factor is particle exposure. As you breathe in and out, every particle that your mask filter catches with its static charge is a reduction in that static charge.

According to Collins' tests, after 38 hours in a "clean office environment," a mask with 99 per cent filtration would go down by 3 - 4 per cent. That's not bad, but that filtration level will only get lower and lower. If you're regularly passing through environments with lots of particles in the air, that charge will drop even more severely.

However, leaving a mask sitting unused didn't seem to cause the filtration to degrade within the four months Collins was testing this. Air is not being forced in and out through the filter when the mask isn't worn. You have to breathe through it to wear the filter down.

N95 masks are sold with an expiry date of five years after they were produced, presumably because the electrostatic charge can't last indefinitely.

I am sorry, Greg. I will try harder. I've been trying to get present day photos of the actors in-character and at their current ages since 2015. Six years later, the technology to upscale the old photos to building-size resolution and to digitally age their faces has become available. Perhaps in the next six years, I can amend the outfits as well, but looking at the Season 1 - 2 versions of the characters, I feel like Quinn would always be in sweaters and flannel, Wade would always be in casual wear with one formal item (jacket or a blouse), and the Professor and Rembrandt would always be in suits.

However, I think Quinn would probably have switched from jeans to flexible golf pants at this point (less restrictive for running away from danger), Wade would have spun into blazers and dress pants (like her look in "Prince of Wails"). Rembrandt and Arturo -- they strike me as suit people. Admittedly, suits are now cut a lot closer to the skin in the 2020s whereas suits in the 90s were looser and at times baggy -- but as Cleavant and John have put on moderate levels of weight, they would probably stick to the looser fit anyway.

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I don't believe anything can preserve the static charge aside from not wearing it. The reason a paper envelope is best for storage after wearing: moisture can evapourate from the mask and through the paper. The mask will dry, any virus lodged in the mask will become inactive, and the mask can be worn again after 72 hours (although I give it 96 to make it easier to keep track). A plastic ziplock bag won't allow moisture to lift off the mask; it will stay in the bag and on the mask.

I hope SLIDERS will return with the sliders.

I've been converting my SLIDERS stories to ebooks in ePub format. My SLIDERS stories feature the sliders in 2015, alive and well, somehow resurrected after 2000. I've been making covers that take the old publicity photos and digitally age the faces to feature Rembrandt in his 60s, Wade in her 40s, the Professor in his 70s and Quinn in his 40s.

It'd be good to see them all again.

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I was listening to Michael Rosenbaum's latest podcast, INSIDE OF YOU. Rosenbaum got COVID-19. He was fully vaccinated. He didn't realize he had COVID-19; he was recovering from back surgery, experiencing exhaustion and thought he was just tired, but when his tiredness got worse and worse, he got tested and tested positive. He stayed home for two weeks and made a full recovery. He didn't need to be hospitalized; he never needed a ventilator; the vaccine enabled him to build the antibodies needed to fight off COVID-19 and all he had to do was rest and take extra vitamins.

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I'm not sure if I can wholeheartedly recommend spending about $90 on buying all the SMALLVILLE comics. They start out really, really well, but as I explained, with all the art shifts and reduced budgets, the artists were no longer able to maintain the likenesses of the actors for all the characters, so by the last third or so of the SMALLVILLE comics, they stop looking like a SMALLVILLE comic book series. They just look like any other SUPERMAN comic, sadly.

However, Tess is revealed to be alive after her death in "Finale," so that's nice. I remember after "Finale" aired, I was appalled by Tess' death and pointed out that Tess had died like three times already and surely this fourth death would be undone as well in a future season of SMALLVILLE. Other fans pointed out that there wouldn't be any future seasons of SMALLVILLE, but I petulantly insisted that Tess would be back and I was mildly astonished to be proven right because I wasn't actually being serious.

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I have been rewatching ALIAS on Disney Plus. It's a JJ Abrams project (LOST fans should check it out) and it's streaming in high definition. Interestingly, the image, while detailed and clear, is extremely grainy. It looks like it was filmed on 16mm film. The grain likely didn't register on the CRT televisions that everyone would have been watching ALIAS on (2001 - 2006), but on an HDTV, the higher resolution scan of the film inflates the grain as well.

It's interesting, ALIAS is a big budget JJ Abrams project on ABC -- and yet, it has a final image that looks closer to Seasons 4 and 5 of SLIDERS. It looks like 16mm film (again, due to the increased grain level). The grain of Seasons 4 - 5 doesn't really register due to DVD compression, and I wouldn't want the ALIAS grain totally stripped out as everything would look like a wax dummy, but a mild reduction of 10 - 15 per cent be less distracting on an HDTV.

Another show that was filmed on 16mm film was NBC's CHUCK, a series that is extremely, extremely grainy on high definition blu-ray and also resembles Seasons 4 - 5 of SLIDERS in that respect. Modern TV shows are shot digitally but have film grain added in post -- but only to the degree of resembling 35mm film as opposed to 16mm.

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I've really liked all the Dark Horse published SERENITY comics that I've read. "Those Left Behind" is a good start that bridges the gap between the final episode of FIREFLY and the SERENITY feature film. The sequel, "Better Days" is also very strong, also set before SERENITY -- although it reintroduces a plot point / situation from the pilot episode where Inara was seen holding a syringe for reasons unknown. "Better Days" has Simon having secret meetings with Inara in her shuttle and Inara refuses to explain why; this was clearly meant to continue the intended character arc where Inara was self-medicating for a terminal disease. Her illness and impending death is why she wanted to see more of the 'verse before she passed away. It was a storyline that FIREFLY would have elaborated on if not for the cancellation. This plot was subsequently dropped in the later comics and the comics later a completely different explanation for her travels.

We have a series of one-shots: "Downtime" is set during the show and is also a very good story. "The Shepherd's Tale" reveals the truth about Shepherd Book and is very strong. "Float Out" is a one shot by Patton Oswalt and also the first story set after SERENITY.

After that comes the six issue series "Leaves on the Wind" with writer Zack Whedon providing an extended follow-up on the post-SERENITY situation for the crew. The sequel is "No Power in the Verse" by Chris Roberson (a great writer) and I just realized I never got around to reading it, only finishing "Leaves on the Wind."

After that, the license transferred from Dark Horse to Boom Studios. The title also reverted to FIREFLY instead of SERENITY. Since  2018, there have apparently been 31 issues (and counting) of the comic, but I haven't read them either. However, they're written by Greg Pak and I've really enjoyed his work on various X-Men comics including PHOENIX: ENDSONG and his Magneto mini-series.

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I'm afraid that my ASTM Level 3 masks are a Canadian product delivered within Canada only (and they seem to have sold out anyway at present on innolifecare.com). However, the mask that I have my mother wear is the Kleannara KF94 and Kleannara has an Amazon store.

https://www.amazon.com/stores/KLEANNARA … C97B9972D?

I've taken apart my ASTM3 mask and taken apart the Kleannara mask and the Kleannara mask is actually a bit better. Under the Kleannara's outer layer of water resistant non-woven layer is a high density filtration layer on top of the electrostatic layer followed by the soft-on-skin layer. In contrast, my ASTM3 mask has the water resistant material on as the first and third layer with the electrostatic filter in the middle. But my ASTM3 mask has a closer fit on my nose, so I use those instead.

Aaron Collins, the mechanical engineer whose videos provide me with all knowledge of masks, has reviewed the Kleannara as well with his equipment and he measured filtration at 98.7 per cent, so it is a very fine mask. https://youtu.be/Z93BoeCuIE4?t=1992

My mother says she can't wear the Kleannara right now as it's very hot outside and she is struggling to breathe through the four layer mask. I have put her back on three-layer surgicals with cord locks. If you already have surgical masks and just want to close the gaps, you could try spending $7 on 100 cord locks.

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Mechanical engineer Aaron Collins has done a lot of tests of KF94s and KN95s and recommends wearing them for 30 - 40 hours. This applies to any mask that uses meltblown polypropylene that filters through an electrostatic charge which includes N95s, KN95s, KF94s and surgical masks. The electrostatic charge dissipates as it goes to work in catching particles from air going in and out; in addition, earloops on masks stretch over time and what starts as a firm seal can become less firm after 30 - 40 hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_In-nBP6WkQ

At the start of each month, I set aside five boat-shaped ASTM Level 3 masks, one designated for each day. After a wearing, I put the worn mask in a paper envelope (marked with the day of the week) and let it sit for four days while moving onto the next mask. During those four days, any droplets will evaporate and any virus will become inactive. I also have surgical masks (with cord locks and PM2.5 filters) as backups, and those are also put in the paper envelope for four days after a wearing.

At the end of the month, I throw out the five ASTM3 masks and start on a new set of five. The surgical masks, however, I wear a lot less, so I use for two months before throwing them out and moving to a new set of backup surgicals. (I keep the cord locks, though.)

And as I've mentioned, KN95 manufacturing standards have proven extremely poor with at least 70 percent of KN95s in North America filtering less than the advertised 95 per cent, some filtering as little as 20 per cent. Whenever starting on a new brand of masks (three packs of KF94s, 10 packs of surgicals, 50 packs of ASTM3 boat shape masks), I always cut one open and check to make sure that there is a filtration layer inside with a static charge. I also put water in this test mask to ensure that fluids (and droplets) don't soak through.

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Grizzlor wrote:

The surgical masks, even if they are fit against the face, do protect against this variant anywhere near what the N95 does.  I'm getting that right from Dr. Michael Osterholm.  There really is no way to get it to "seal" on your face.  I agree on wearing the cloth or whatever on top of it, but honestly at that point, why bother?  Just get an N95.  Regardless, his point and mine was that most people wear poor masks and also wear them incorrectly.

The only quote I can find from Osterholm on the subject is his appearance on CNN saying that cloth masks are ineffective and N95 masks are his preference; I see no comments on surgical masks from him, although all the search results are inundated with anti-maskers citing Osterholm to bolster their lies that all masks are useless. https://thehill.com/changing-america/we … rotect-you

Regardless, Duke University's tests have shown that surgical mask materials have nearly the same filtration as N95s. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/36/eabd3083 However, surgical masks require either a second cloth mask on top to ensure a firm fit or cord locks to tighten up the earloops for the individual wearer.

Why would someone buy something other than an N95? They can be costly. In my city, N95 masks cost about $1.88 USD per mask. In contrast, a KF94 costs $1.04 USD per mask, and my mask of choice costs $0.77 USD each. My mother, in the hot summer air, cannot breathe through any of these masks and can only stand to wear a $0.40 USD surgical mask. I have added cord locks to each of the earloops ($0.12 USD a pair) to ensure a tight seal to her face for those masks.

Masks aren't infinitely reusable; they'll endure about 40 hours of wearing before the filtration diminishes. People may need to buy masks in high quantities at lower price points and my 77 cent ASTM3 mask with a 360 seal is equal to any N95. Also in my case, I find that most duckbill style masks like KN95s and even the N95 leave some slight gaps whereas the boat style mask I have chosen leaves no gaps at all and the ASTM Level 3 protection boasts splendid filtration.

ASTM Level 3 filters 98 per cent of particles down to 0.1 microns whereas N95 is rated for 95 per cent of particles down to 0.3 microns (although N95 certification tests fit and ASTM does not, but these ASTM3 masks fit my face better than any alternatives I've tried and I've tried a lot).

N95 is an excellent standard. But N95 is only one manufacturing standard of certification from the United States National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. NIOSH does not review every mask in existence. Numerous countries have their own certification standards. Countries that aren't America are perfectly capable of manufacturing and certifying masks with electrostatic filtration. Americans don't have a monopoly on meltblown polypropylene.

Other certification standards for electrostatic filtration include the international ASTM (formerly American), the European Union's FFP2, the KF94 of South Korea and the Chinese KN95. Each standard and testing process is slightly different and the KN95 has proven lax, but mask standards are not the sole domain of the United States or NIOSH or China.

Mechanical engineer Aaron Collins has tested KF94 masks and found that they match and exceed N95 standards. https://news.yahoo.com/one-man-is-on-a- … 56926.html

NIOSH has not reviewed KF94s. But mask filtration is not affected by whether or not one American body put their stamp on the box.

Now, to be clear: Grizzlor's preference for only wearing N95 masks is safe and sets a high target for protection. Anyone who adopted it would be well-protected. N95 masks are an industry standard of high performance. It is the most resilient and most stringently tested respirator technology on the market. Nobody should ever perceive an N95 mask to be anything less than excellent. And Grizzlor is entirely correct to present Osterholm as a source of knowledge as Osterholm has warned that cloth masks are pretty much useless.

However, there is also excellence to be found in ASTM Level 3 masks, KF94 masks, and properly fitted electrostatic surgical masks as well. Once the filtration is good, the key concern is fit.

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Grizzlor wrote:

as for masks, honestly anything but an N95 equivalent mask is not going to give you much protection.  the surgical ones, cloth ones, whatever, maybe 15-30 minutes, good enough for quick trips inside a store or whatever.  they don't help much otherwise.

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Most people don't wear surgical masks correctly at all, to the point where they are really not that effective.  That was my point.

I don't see anything in your original post about fit, just a blanket remark that anything less than an N95 doesn't protect. And that simply isn't true.

But on the subject of cloth and surgical masks: I've seen some very impressive results with people wearing a surgical mask (with its somewhat loose adhesion to the face) but then wearing a cloth mask on top. While the cloth mask adds only miniscule filtration, most cloth masks I've seen with nose wires and earloops and a triangular shape do a nice job of conforming to the face. This seals the surgical mask where the surgical alone fails.

Personally, I am not a fan of double-masking for myself. It works, but I would rather wear one good mask than a mask that lacks filtration over a mask that lacks a seal. I'm currently using boat-shaped ASTM Level 3 masks because I've found that the seal is best on my face. They're kind of expensive, though, so I only allow myself to rotate between five every month, and I also have a lot of surgical masks with added cord locks as backups.

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I hope you're right about the vaccines versus the Delta. They definitely keep you out of the hospital and out of the grave, but the reports of contagion among the vaccinated have rattled me a bit.

You seem to equate cloth masks with surgical masks. That simply isn't true.

Cloth is indeed near-useless as a filtration medium, but surgical masks are made from meltblown polypropylene. They have a water-resistant filter, an electrostatic layer and an inner layer for skin comfort can filter viral particles. But to protect, a mask with these layers must firmly adhere to the face and leave no gaps around the nose and mouth. Masks with these filters fail to protect not because of the filtration but because of the fit, and fit can be amended.

I have reviewed and personally taken apart N95 masks, KN95 masks, KF94 masks and surgical masks. The N95 is the gold standard because it wraps around the back of the head and clamps to the face to seal off the nose and mouth -- but aside from that, the filtration, while heavily layered (five layers), is ultimately acting on the same principle of the KN95s, KF94s and surgical masks: a water resistant layer to block droplets and an electrostatic layer to ensnare viral particles.

KN95s have the same number of layers and the same filtration, but Chinese manufacturers have had a lot of trouble meeting N95 filtration standards because many of these plants were previously making T-shirts and socks. These masks often break easily or have massive gaps in the electrostatic filtering or don't have all the layers of an N95.

KF94s have four layers and the same filtration, they seal firmly to the face, and they are extremely reliable because South Korea actively inspects manufacturers and fines any business with substandard output and poor quality masks never make it out of the country. However, the filtration rates have proven to be the same; the extra layers of an N95 make it harder and more resilient to wear and tear but adding a fourth and fifth layer only provides diminishing returns.

The material used in surgical masks have nearly the same filtration levels as N95 masks despite only three filters. They have an outer water resistant layer, an inner electrostatic layer and a layer for facial comfort. The problem is not the material; it's that surgicals are shaped like flat rectangles and can't align to the three dimensional shape of a human face. They don't seal firmly, at least not out of the box, and because they leave gaps at the sides, their filtration is estimated at 60 - 80 per cent depending on the face.

However, a surgical can be amended with putting cord locks on the earloops to tighten the surgical mask's grip against the face. They can be further augmented by adding an additional PM2.5 filter inside the mask which can be firmly pressed against the mouth and nose by a tightly fitting surgical.

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I'm not sure we will truly know how effective vaccines are against the Delta variant until well into the fourth wave. Currently, I've seen MRNA vaccines described anywhere from 65 - 95 per cent effective against Delta. The data is all over the place. In addition, it seems those who are vaccinated and infected are just as contagious as the unvaccinated.  Misinformation Warning: Hi, this is ireactions here correcting my own post. Since originally writing the previous words, it's become apparent that vaccinated individuals are less contagious because they shed less virus and for a shorter period of time.

However, vaccinated individuals have lesser symptoms, are hospitalized in smaller numbers if at all and largely don't die from COVID-19, Delta or not.

A certain deranged segment of the world declare that vaccines should be avoided because it impedes their individual choices; that dewormer medication for horses are effective -- except that unvaccinated COVID-19 patients overwhelm health care systems while vaccinated COVID-19 patients can form a viable immune response. Unvaccinated COVID-19 patients are have no defense against COVID-19, can't produce the antibodies to fight off COVID-19 and provide the virus with the opportunity for further replication and mutation into deadlier variants while vaccinated COVID-19 patients are infected in far fewer numbers and a vaccinated population has fewer COVID-19 patients and offer fewer opportunities for new variants to emerge.

Such people don't care about any of that, however; they are largely entitled, white men who believe that any impulse or inclination they have -- to ignore social distancing, to refuse vaccination -- cannot be questioned. They also enjoy the outrage and sense of power that they feel when they declare they will not prevent themselves from spreading a deadly disease.

It is entirely possible that new variants will be vaccine resistant. It is also entirely possible that the deaths of the fourth wave will be primarily among people who refuse to vaccinate or wear masks. Until then, we have to get vaccinated to avoid crashing our hospitals. And we have to wear masks, assume every stranger is unvaccinated and only have close and unmasked social outings that are with people we know to be fully vaccinated.

In addition, with the massive viral load of the Delta variant, it's important that we wear proper masks. Purely cloth masks won't cut it, haven't for a long time. We have to wear masks with electrostatic filters and a nose wire to fold the the filtration layer around your nose (like surgical masks). We have to make sure these masks don't leave large gaps for unfiltered air; a surgical mask often doesn't wrap fully most people's faces, but this can be amended by buying cord locks to tighten the earloops to your ears and ensure that the seal around your nose and mouth is firm.

Totally agree with Temporal Flux about restraints, restrictions and the creativity it inspires, except... I'd argue that we should also be aware of all the advantages that come when limits are surpassed. Compare the singing flowers of the original STAR TREK pilot to their CG augmented counterparts in "If Memory Serves"; compare the slow submarine battles of the original STAR TREK with the hyperkinetic action of the third season of ENTERPRISE. Note the episodic constraints of THE NEXT GENERATION matched with ENTERPRISE doing three parters -- effectively feature films -- on its fourth season.

Extended length is a tool and I agree that it can be a crutch, but I'd also argue that it can be a springboard once the tool is mastered. That mastery is not apparent yet, but perhaps it will be soon.

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Yeah, I totally agree with you on FLASH. That said -- I really liked SUPERNATURAL even in the middle years. Yes, the show was in a holding pattern. But I would argue that SUPERNATURAL made Sam and Dean so vivid and distinct and their relationship so powerful that just spending more time with them was worth it. THE FLASH has not defined its characters and their relationships with nearly the same depth that SUPERNATURAL gave Sam and Dean. THE FLASH's relationships are extremely thin: someone has to do something obvious and immediate but hesitates and prevaricates until someone else offers a sappy motivational speech. In contrast, Sam and Dean have a complex relationship that existed long before the show even started.

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I thought LOKI was great! THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER was trying to be political but took a vague, wishy-washy non-position of nothing. LOKI is trying to be psychological and humour-oriented and so it can take a very firm position that Loki, for all his flair and charisma and talent and power, is a loser and will always lose: he can't build trust, he's a narcissist who falls in love with himself, and this is beautifully portrayed in the sequence where a small team of Loki-doubles betray each other in turn.

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My niece banned me from seeing BLACK WIDOW, saying that the Delta variant is way too scary even if I'm double-vaccinated because other audience members might not be. I will see it when I don't have to pay money for it in addition to what I'm already paying for Disney+.

Scarlett Johansson is undoubtedly in the right in her lawsuit and I don't even like Johansson as a person, a privileged, entitled, snotty and cruel person who accepts roles that should go to Japanese and transgendered individuals (although she apologized for the last one). However, Disney has historically treated its workers with contemptuous abusiveness: laying off its theme park staff while its executives pocketed millions even when Disney's pathetic wages were leaving three-quarters of their theme park workforce perpetually on the verge of homelessness and starving even when they could afford a roof over their heads. They reopened Disney World at the height of their pandemic, for God's sake.

There is no doubt in my mind that Disney felt they could stiff Johansson on her fee, not bother to come to an alternate arrangement with her for moving BLACK WIDOW to streaming, and settle any lawsuit for pennies on the dollar. However, I will note that actors seem to constantly have to sue studios for what they're owed. David Boreanaz and Emily Deschanel and David Duchovny have had to sue FOX for underpaid residuals. Creators have had to do the same: Chris Carter had to sue FOX, Alfred Gough and Miles Millar had to sue Warner Bros. It's pretty ridiculous.

I've also read that Kevin Feige is outraged at Johansson's treatment: that he urged Disney to make a new payment arrangement with her before they took BLACK WIDOW to streaming and they declined.

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I really like Tucker's writing and everyone should read at least his rewritten "Exodus" story. It's an instant classic.

Tucker, is it hard for you to write stories set in 1996 - 1998, an era before you were even alive?

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I think pilight is right about what the cast would and wouldn't sign up for.

I get the sense that for Tracy Torme, SLIDERS ceased to exist after "The Guardian" and, fairly or unfairly, he probably won't take the time to learn about Maggie, Colin, Mallory or Diana in order to present those characters at all. That is the realm of a lunatic fanfic writer (hello).

This isn't realistic given the casting situation, but my guess is that Torme's dream vision of SLIDERS in 2021 is a remake of the Pilot updated to the present day. Slider_Quinn21 once suggested something like that (and I'll embellish it with ideas from TF):

Quinn is a 47 year old who lost his passion for science after failing to create anti-gravity; he became a student loan officer and accountant and hated by students and faculty alike; he's in trouble at work because he keeps blowing off his job to sit in on Arturo's lectures longingly.

Wade is a 49 year old manager of Doppler Computers who failed to become a tech entrepreneur and now miserably hawks smartphones. Rembrandt is a music teacher who failed to remain a star of the musical stage and now loathes the 10 year olds to whom he teaches trombone and he wishes he were dead.

The Professor is exactly the same except older, grayer and much more relaxed -- except when he sees Quinn as he loathes Quinn for abandoning science but not leaving the campus. Wade and Quinn are married but possibly not for much longer as Quinn's halfhearted tinkering with the anti-grav machine in the basement blows power to the block and costs them their house insurance and has Wade serving Quinn with divorce papers the next day.

Desperate to save his marriage, Quinn starts to disassemble the coils, but then he has an idea for a last new configuration. He accidentally opens a gateway. In shock, he passes out. When he wakes up, he discovers that (a) Wade is willing to reconcile with him if they'll go into counselling and that he somehow got their house paid off and their insurance situation fixed (b) Quinn has a new job offer from Arturo as a research assistant in applying engineering principles to the Professor's mathematics and (c) his anti-gravity equipment has been reconfigured into a sliding machine.

Quinn starts to wonder if he's losing his mind or memory only to be approached by a familiar stranger. It is Quinn Mallory. Quinn-2 says Quinn's clumsy vortex drew Quinn-2's slide trail to this world. He says he was sorry to see Quinn's life in such a state and thought he'd help him out with the three hours that he had: save his marriage, sell a few patents for him, get him a job he doesn't hate. Quinn-2 explains sliding and says he has been sliding since 1995 and he warns Quinn to be careful with it.

QUINN-2: "The first five years were rough. I lost Wade, Rembrandt and the Professor -- and getting them all back -- it was a miracle."

QUINN: "Who's Rembrandt?"

QUINN-2: "Maybe you'll find out. There are wonders out there, Quinn. But also horrors you can't imagine. It's beautiful. And it's not for the timid."

Quinn-2 leaves Quinn to his new adventures or to stay home. Quinn begins to work on sliding again and inevitably screws up, getting himself, Wade and the Professor lost along with a passing Rembrandt who just happened to be driving by the house, and the adventure begins again?

Maybe. I know it isn't plausible. But this is a place for dreams. :-)

Holy. Crap. I'D TOTALLY WATCH THIS!!!!

What a lovely thing to say. Thank you very much. And I'm sure TF and Slider_Quinn21 appreciate you enjoying their ideas too!

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I didn't think THE FLASH was a mess this year, but it also wasn't very successful. Following up on Season 6's unfinished arcs in three episodes (I think) was difficult for me; I couldn't remember who any of these people were. It was also laughably awkward to have Ralph make a final appearance with a bag over his head.

Then Season 7 launched into an intriguing arc: Barry having created new superhumans and the Speed Force manifesting as his mother -- except the characters all started referring to the new superhumans as Barry and Iris' children and this insistence on a familial bond was clumsy, awkward and unearned. But I understand that they were trying to get into the themes of family even though they did so with new characters who were effectively strangers.

The Speed Force as a threat -- that's a great idea, but hopelessly muddled by the bizarre need for these adults we'd never seen much of to address Barry and Iris as "Dad" and "Mom."

There was a bizarre two episodes where Barry was calling out to Iris and never hearing back from her because Candice Patton took two episodes off to see family and had to re-quarantine -- except the show did something clever by actually having Iris absent without Barry's knowledge. That was very clever and funny. Then we come to a finale where Godspeed is an attempt to have another speedster villain. But Thawne was terrifying as Barry's mentor who knew Barry better than Barry knew himself. Zoom was terrifying because of his sadism and cruelty and ability to plant himself on the team. Savitar was somewhat frightening in being "the future Flash."

But Godspeed was just a booming voice, a neat costume -- and ultimately not that frightening because Godspeed spent more time fighting other Godspeeds than menacing the team. It was great to see Nora and Bart. The casting for Bart Allen was superb. Making Bart the son of Barry Allen as opposed to a distant descendant was exactly the right change of simplicity that I would expect for a TV show.

Ultimately, Season 7, like everything since the middle of Season 4, lacks a certain craft and finesse. It's very well-intentioned, but the skill is not there. I didn't mind Season 7, but it was rather uninspired.

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I liked the FLASH finale up to a point -- that point being when the Flash and the Reverse Flash and Godspeed began fighting with lightsabers.

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I'm all for repurposing and drawing on other people's ideas for inspirations -- such as in one story where I copied Chris Chibnall's mystery cubes from the DOCTOR WHO story "The Power of Three" and presented the Doomsday Clocks, chronometers counting down to doomsday. But the image of people fighting with laser swords is so firmly, fundamentally identified with STAR WARS that I think it's absurd to try to co-opt it or present it in a way that isn't very obvious and clumsy in being a ripoff. SMALLVILLE often ran into similar problems in Seasons 8 : they would devote an episode to pastiching a movie and there were many in each season: SAW, RESIDENT EVIL, CLOVERFIELD, SAW again, THE MATRIX, SPARTACUS, THE HANGOVER -- but there was at least a shift into that specific genre: the horror-trap movie, the zombie film, found footage, cyberpunk, gladiator trials, bachelor parties.

When Barry and Thawne and Godspeed become Jedi Knights, it doesn't feel like a homage to a genre. It's simply lifting the iconography from some other work instead of having THE FLASH create its own. There was no rationale -- none -- for why Barry has previously thrown lightning but now holds it in a solidified form in his hands or why one end of the energy is harmful but the end of which Barry holds it is harmless.

Bart and Nora were fun, the show is still being written as a series of characters filibustering with whiny emotional issues until somebody gives them a sappy motivational speech. It's nice that unlike SLIDERS, THE FLASH bid farewell to mainstays Carlos Valdez and Tom Cavanagh but both are happy to return for a few episodes a season and that good relationship has been maintained. But it's clear to me that THE FLASH is simply existing to fill a timeslot at this stage.

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Just watched SUPERMAN AND LOIS. I totally agree with Slider_Quinn21 that Diggle didn't add anything to the story nor did the story add anything to Diggle. David Ramsey is a bottomless well of warmth, charisma, humanity and decency and he makes a meal out of the morsel he's given, having Diggle remind John Henry Irons that he has a choice in whether or not to kill Superman and that it's a choice he can make in the moment, not at the outset.

Aside from that, this episode strikes me as a thinly veiled rebuke, repudiation and rejection of MAN OF STEEL, BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN and Zack Snyder's plans for the JUSTICE LEAGUE sequels. Lois declares that having an armoured human fight Superman or kill Superman is totally pointless; taking down one Kryptonian isn't going to matter if there's an army of superpowered beings planning to take over the Earth.

The possessed Superman hears Lois through the Steel armour's communications system and hesitates; rather than battling on just to win a fight and establish his superiority in combat, Superman pleads for John Henry Irons to kill him to save the world and John Henry Irons pleads for Superman to live and save his family. An enemy becomes an ally; an antagonist becomes a friend and nobody had to kill anyone.

In fact, killing anyone would have been self-defeating: killing a Zod-possessed Superman would have meant no more weapons against Tal-Rho. Killing Tal-Rho would have prevented Superman and John Henry and the Department of Defence from learning of his plans and assets around Earth. Force and violence aren't solutions in themselves; Superman and John Henry need to work together to learn how to solve the problem. This is what superheroes are for. SUPERMAN AND LOIS is wonderful.

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Golly! I'm actually behind SUPERMAN AND LOIS. I'm hoping to catch up at the end of this week.

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For me, Floyd's performance on BAR RESCUE shows precisely what a great actor he is. Acting is about pretending to be naturalistic in highly unnatural situations. There is absolutely nothing onscreen in what I've seen of BAR RESCUE that is not staged, rehearsed, recreated and dramatized for the camera. But Floyd convinces me that what's happening is a perfectly plausible situation that just happens to be unfolding in front of a camera with precisely the right angle and lighting and sound recording needed to show a bar in a dire situation being saved from itself -- and he convinces that being in this scenario with these people and this subject matter at hand is exactly where he wants to be.

In contrast, I find Jon Taffer on the same show to be overly performative, mugging for the camera, overenunciating his shock or surprise. You'll recall, as a viewer of LIE TO ME, that Dr. Lightman comments on how real emotions aren't stretched or frozen on the face. They flash briefly and transition to resting positions of similar but diminished positions. Jon Taffer overperforms his facial expressions. In contrast, Floyd masks his performance so that it doesn't come off as a performance. He couldn't always do this on SLIDERS; he had the camera angle to fit into, marks to hit, props to handle, timing to meet, but on BAR RESCUE, he uses the reality TV situation to perform unperformatively. Floyd is a thespian genius.

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It's strange -- on a technical level, I like the Pilot a lot as a cinematic piece of filmmaking from director Andy Tennant. However, my favourite directors on the show are Adam Nimoy and Richard Compton ("Into the Mystic," "As Time Goes By," "Invasion" and more) -- because Nimoy and Compton took a totally different route than Tennant. Where Tennant's direction was very methodical and let you live and breathe in prolonged shots of Quinn's world and sliding, Nimoy and Compton aimed for immediacy and urgency and economy, sharing the most information in the least amount of time.

The Professor's fight with the Professor in "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome," Quinn racing into the Sorcerer's private chambers in "Mystic" -- it's all about keeping the shots as short as possible to convey urgency. Tennant's style does make a comeback in "Invasion" with the lengthy scenes of the sliders trapped in a Kromagg cell, when slowing the pacing now has meaning where the show was so relentlessly paced before. These days, modern TV is so fast with scenes often less than two pages of script, and Nimoy and Compton were well ahead of the curve in the 90s, speeding up the storytelling long before it was mainstream.

I remember once reading a summary on PTSS where the summarizer remarked, "Spock's son shoots the scene so confusingly I can't tell which Professor won the fight," and Temporal Flux later remarking that you can tell if you put your finger on the screen to identify which Professor came in the taxi and which Professor accompanied the sliders. Adam Nimoy is a great director.

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[I was concurring with TF's post, but it seemed to me that I shouldn't put my politics in his thread. I'll find somewhere else.]

It's interesting -- Torme declared that a SLIDERS revival with him at the helm would not be "woke" or "politically correct."

I think Torme has an unusual definition of "woke" and "politically correct," just going by his previous work and interviews where he previously called "political correctness the great lie of the left." Torme was born in 1959, and the early twentieth century definition of "political correctness" was adherence to a specific political party's dogma and having that dogma override any personal positions and by the 70s, it was a mockery of the Russian Communist Party supposedly having pre-written and pre-approved responses for any and all social situations. He seems to attach the adjective "woke" to this definition. I think he's still using "politically correct" this way.

Since then, "politically correct" has evolved into an insult to disparage any discussion of sexuality, gender, class divisions, race, and systemic inequality -- and I don't believe Torme means "politically correct" in this manner because these are subjects which I feel Torme would gladly dive into from his libertarian perspective. I think Torme rejects the idea that any political party -- Republican or Democrat -- can hold the only truths to be found in this world (although he certainly sees the US Constitution as absolutely sacred). We are talking about someone who has described himself as "a radical leftist," "a radical environmentalist" and a "radical animal rights person" and "an ex-Democrat."

Torme is capable of mocking every side of every political divide, satirizing every gender role and racial stereotype -- and he doesn't allow political fealty to any particular party or dogma to interfere with his finding faults to gently observe, invert and explore.

Just my read. I could be Wrong.

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Thinking about this some more and I have come to the conclusion that "Slide Effects" is entirely an ode to Temporal Flux. At age 15, I was deeply confused and upset by the arbitrary randomness and sheer cruelty that the show displayed towards Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo.

Temporal Flux spent a lot of time on AOL Instant Messenger with me, telling me the ins and outs of why the onscreen product was what it was. He brought understanding and reason to a chaotic and horrifically savage set of circumstances. And he told me also that he believed that SLIDERS could come back. He couldn't be absolutely certain, but he believed that it was possible that Quinn and Wade and Rembrandt and Arturo would slide again. He made me feel hope, he made me envision the sliders restored and made whole and standing at the edge of a limitless future of wonder and boundless adventure.

And re-reading "Slide Effects" now, it's clear that "Slide Effects" is an attempt to make the reader feel the way TF made me feel when I was a child: that there is a bridge from the chaos of Seasons 3 - 5, that there is a path to redemption, that the original quartet will inevitably find their way back to each other and step into the vortex once again.

That's why his view that sliding was unfinished theory from Michael Mallory is in the story. That's why his sentiments about Tracy Torme's heart and the sliders' true home are in the dialogue. "Slide Effects" is how he made me feel.

"Luck of the Draw": the ending in 720p.
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Annie Fish once remarked in their review of "The Dying Fields" that "Life is cruel, and unusual, and completely unfair. So why bother? Why bother feeling? Why bother trying— why bother with anything? You shouldn’t. And this is what SLIDERS is really about. It’s the personification of cynicism. Of nihilism. Of existential horror taken to such a complete extreme as to become completely meaningless."

Part of this is seeded in "Luck of the Draw" where Annie Fish tacitly argues that the logical endpoint of SLIDERS is that all the sliders die horribly because they are interdimensional travellers, but they are interdimensional travellers with no combat training, no resources, total randomness in their journey, a makeshift piece of equipment that facilitates their journey that is unreliable and possibly unmaintainable, and that inevitably, they will slide to their deaths.

But... I don't agree with that. Sci-fi television is all about people beating the odds, not meekly submitting to them. "Luck of the Draw"'s cliffhanger was not borne of nihilism. It came out of confidence: Torme knew that SLIDERS would be back. He knew that FOX would get the last 13 episodes of the original Season 1 order on the air and get the full cost of their fee to Universal realized in ad revenue. It's also why FOX finished the second season of SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES; FOX would have lost money by not finishing out their original order even though the show's ratings were poor.

Torme knew SLIDERS' return would be delayed. That the show might return in a very different form as FOX wanted to 'retool' the show for what would be Season 2. But it would be back. And so, SLIDERS in Season 1 ends with a cliffhanger to keep the show in the viewers' minds and urges them to anticipate its return.

"Luck of the Draw"'s cliffhanger is not declaring that Quinn getting shot is the likely fate of everyone on the show; "Luck of the Draw" is declaring that SLIDERS will return. That the sliders will always come back.

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I don't remember Arturo picking up any arrowheads in "Blood and Splendor," but if Torme says he did, then he could have done so off-panel. I don't doubt Arturo-2 stole everything that was Arturo's, including his friends and his life.

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The Acclaim comics, in my view, are mostly awful, but it's not due to a lack of talent. Writer DG Chichester wrote some of the best DAREDEVIL stories after Frank Miller. I'm not familiar with Jeof Vita and Jeff Sommers, but Andy Mangels wrote some magnificent STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE novels and I don't even like ENTERPRISE. Mangels also did amazing stuff with the post-cancellation ROSWELL novels.

Artist Dick Giordano is an industry legend. Bernard Chang did beautiful work illustrating WONDER WOMAN. Dennis Calero is a splendidly atmospheric artist who captured the spirit of the four sliders and probably should have drawn every page of every SLIDERS comic ever. Artist Butch Guice did a magnificent job on CAPTAIN AMERICA and was also behind the visual identity of the Victorian detective series RUSE.

Guice is also significant to me personally: he drew DC/MARVEL: ALL ACCESS #1 which featured Superman and Spider-Man (!) fighting Venom together (!!!). It wasn't the first comic book I read, but it was the first one that made me look for a comic book store so that I could find the next issue. Recently, he's been doing great stuff on SAVAGE AVENGERS.

The SLIDERS comics had enough talent to tell the greatest SLIDERS stories of all time, so the fact that they did not tell even passable SLIDERS stories most of the time is likely due to difficult circumstances. The mad rush to hack out product is probably why the characterization is so shaky, why the artwork is so unfinished, and why the writers keep defaulting to superhero comic book style over winsome dramedy. It's possible that FOX and Universal's licensing departments gave them an extremely limited window to submit material for approval, or perhaps the licensing fees meant the comic book had a budget that didn't allow for more time and resources.

There's also the fact that Acclaim Comics was, creatively, a well-run comic book publisher in my opinion. They developed the brilliant QUANTUM AND WOODY and other great titles. The Editor in Chief was Fabian Nicieza, a gentleman with a reptuation for decency and professionalism in comics (a field where that can be hard to find). Nicieza also had a hilarious run on CABLE & DEADPOOL years later.

Former employee Valerie D'Orazio, an editor at Acclaim, described what a fun, enjoyable, reassuring and talent-supporting environment it was in her autobiography. She also noted a party with an open bar where she got wasted and has no memory of how she got home and when she returned to the office, Nicieza gave everyone a firm but loving lecture about how they had to consume alcohol responsibly and take care of each other at events and act like a team rather than a bunch of unhinged college kids.

Acclaim went bankrupt, not due to the comics division, but due to the video game division's poor sales crashing the rest of the company, although the comics were having across the board distribution problems in getting the books into stores.

Acclaim looks to me like it was a good company. All these writers look pretty solid to me, even the two I've never heard of, Jeof Vita and Jeff Summers, did a joke documentary about their SLIDERS comic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9& … V4VnURlMdc

All these people should have told great SLIDERS stories. The fact that they didn't tells me that the creators and the publisher were unable to do so due to a situation beyond their control. I am absolutely sure they did the best they could with what they had.

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When I was writing "Slide Effects," I was deliberately putting little references to someone who has been a real friend to SLIDERS and SLIDERS fans, and some of the continuity and character elements come from this person instead of coming from the show.

The statement that Quinn's work in anti-gravity is a follow-up on unfinished research from his father does not come from the series. It is actually a reference to Temporal Flux saying he observed similarities between the 2000 issue of ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #1 where writer Brian Michael Bendis showed a 15 year old Peter Parker working in a basement lab with a blackboard of complex equations, working on a revolutionary adhesive formula that his father started but didn't finish before his death. (The formula becomes Spider-Man's webbing.)

Temporal Flux remarked, "Does that setting seem familiar to you? A basement laboratory. A blackboard equation. A son continuing the work of his dead father. The first scenes of the SLIDERS pilot movie center around very similar elements as we are introduced to Quinn Mallory. Was this Ultimate Spider-Man treatment an homage to Sliders? So far an answer is not forthcoming...but one really has to wonder given how closely the situations resemble each other... "
https://web.archive.org/web/20160809214 … spidey.htm

As far as I can tell, the Pilot did not establish what Quinn's father did or didn't do for a living in the Pilot; "Gillian of the Spirits" reveals him to be a mechanical and electrical engineer and "Genesis" declares that he was indeed a slider and that he was a member of a human-and-Kromagg society. "Invasion" establishes that Mary's world was invaded by Kromaggs at age six, so the Kromaggs have been slidetech equipped for at least 15 - 20 years and probably more.

Since "Slide Effects" asserts that Seasons 3 - 5 are all in continuity and all happened and merely happened to a different set of sliders (many different sets), it seemed reasonable to say that Michael Mallory was a scientist. And it seemed reasonable to imply that Quinn's work on anti-gravity was something his father started, a way to connect with him. It draws more on Seasons 4 - 5 with Michael Mallory creating slidecages and war zones between dimensions and superweapons than it does from Torme's version of Michael Mallory.

It was also a way to bring Quinn's father up: I wanted Quinn's reunion with his mother in "Slide Effects" to be shocking and deeply emotional. I was horrified by what Season 5 did to Linda Henning's character and always cringed at what Ms. Henning might have thought of her bizarre trajectory on SLIDERS. I wanted Quinn to be so relieved and overwhelmed to find his mother not only home but untraumatized and to put Michael's presence in the scene would increase the emotion.

I also wanted to imply that Quinn and Amanda had had some sort of fight between the teaser of the Pilot and the breakfast scene that would justify Quinn's emotional reaction to the sight of her from Amanda's perspective; that she'd said something she later thought her son might take more harshly than she'd intended -- and I decided to say she'd told Quinn to stop connecting with his dad through the anti-gravity research. Why didn't they seem to still be fighting in the Pilot?

In my mind, Quinn would have apologized, used his knowhow to fix the power, and no more needed to be said of it, but in "Slide Effects," when Quinn seemed upset at the sight of her, Amanda assumed the fight was not as finished as it had seemed.

But it was a reference to Temporal Flux's ruminations, really. I liked the idea a lot, I saw no contradiction with the series, and I found it useful when having Quinn react intensely to seeing his mother but needed them to resume (relatively) normal interactions afterwards.

And there are actually two more references to Temporal Flux. When Rembrandt says, "The Cryin' Man's always got a special place in his heart for his fans," this is referring to Temporal Flux saying, "To this day, Torme holds a special place in his heart for SLIDERS and its fans."

And the last is when Arturo tells the sliders, "Remember, home isn't a place; it's the people you're with." It's something TF once said. He said that no matter how lost Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo might be, so long as they were together, they were home.

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Torme definitely passed along story ideas to Acclaim. However, the scripts from these story ideas were written by others, and these scripts seem to have been written in a mad dash with the writers urgently watching episodes on VHS and then hacking out a script to meet a deadline. The artwork on these comics is also extremely rushed in many cases. Even with Jerry O'Connell's issue of the comic, artist Butch Guice didn't even bother to finish drawing it, leaving Dennis Calero to complete the second half of the story. It seems unlikely to me that Torme did anything more than pass along unused ideas and sign off on publishing; I doubt he was actively reviewing the scripts or pages or instituting revisions given how the comics are totally against his sensibilities in many cases.

I meant there could be a proper wrap-up to the 1995 - 2000 series in spin-off media like a comic book, an audioplay, a novel, a puppet show, a popup picture book or a dramatization with fruit salad figurines.

I'd say a proper wrap-up would resurrect Quinn, Wade and Rembrandt, reunite them with Arturo and get them safely home and to undo the Kromagg invasion and the Kromagg Prime backstory and that... thing with the forced Humagg progenitors that I wish I could forget.

I think that if the original cast return to play doubles of the characters we met in 1995, there could also be comic books or audioplays to address the original characters and wrap up those storylines properly.

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There was a period where Geoff Johns, producer on the Arrowverse shows, was also DC's Chief Creative Officer and the head of the Warner Bros. division for DC films. You'll recall that on ARROW, the Suicide Squad and a teased Harley Quinn appearance were abruptly curtailed along with Deadshot's character. However, Johns was later promoted to running DC films in 2016 at which point ARROW's showrunner Marc Guggenheim directly contacted Johns and requested permission to use Deadshot in a Season 5 episode and Johns granted the request.

It's likely Johns who loosened the chains to allow more use of Batman properties. At this point, Johns has been dismissed from the DC film division due to the crash and burn of JUSTICE LEAGUE. However, he's still employed as a producer on individual shows and individual movies and likely still has a degree of influence to encourage letting BATWOMAN use Bruce Wayne -- although he no longer has the power to approve licensing requests.

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A lot of fans remarked that Quinn's backstory was akin to Superman at the time of the original broadcast. I cracked wise that David Peckinpah had retconned Quinn into "Kal-El of ****ing Kromagg Prime." However... I believe that the whole Season 4 Kromagg arc originated with Marc Scott Zicree although what is actually onscreen appears largely against his intentions.

The plan was for the Season 4 finale, "Revelations," to reveal that the entire "Genesis" backstory and invasion was a Kromagg trick. Colin was an altered clone of Quinn planted as a sleeper agent. The Kromaggs had manipulated Quinn into shutting down the slidecage to allow the Kromaggs to retake Kromagg Prime.

Zicree is extremely well-liked among SLIDERS fans and his story idea is also very popular. I, however, am in the minority: I think Zicree is brilliant, but in my strictly personal opinion that is shared by nobody else, his Kromagg Prime story idea was a disaster from start to finish.

The idea of Kromaggs and humans having once shared a homeworld is so antithetical to the Kromagg's xenophobia -- as established in "Invasion" -- that it'd have been better to just create something new rather than use the Kromaggs.

And I think it was a mistake to even do a to-be-debunked season-long storyline in which Earth Prime is invaded and Quinn isn't one of us. SLIDERS operates on the sliders being from a world that is similar to our own so that we and the characters have a common frame of reference for parallel worlds being different. If Earth is a Kromagg Outpost, that frame of reference is altered. Even if "Revelations" was to overturn that, that's still 21 episodes where the sliders don't come from a world that is anything like ours.

Zicree wrote an episode of SUPER FRIENDS and a character in SUPER FRIENDS is actually named after Zicree (Zi-Kree). Zicree worked with writer Michael Reaves whom Zicree apparently brought into pitch ideas for SLIDERS, one of which was bought (and butchered) for Season 5. That said, even if Zicree hadn't worked on SUPER FRIENDS, it's doubtful that any American is ignorant of Superman and Krypton.

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I still think having one browser for Leisure and only Leisure is best.

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I have been cautiously staying neutral on the entire subject of Bitcoin, careful not to weigh in until Temporal Flux said something about it. Now I'm going to side with him unless new information arises.

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Well, work is very important. Our employers are paying us, and if the renumeration is sufficient for our labour and a living wage, then we owe them our undivided attention for the hours in which they're paying us.

Is there a way for you to set up a separate user profile on your work laptop? One for Work and one for Leisure?

Failing that, could you have one browser exclusively for Personal Pursuits and confine any and all non-work activities to that browser alone?

I myself actually have three separate web browsers on my home computer: one for Work, one that's permanently logged into any retail and social media accounts, and one for Research (so that my searches can't be tracked to any accounts to which I'm logged in).

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I think the problem with THE FLASH in Season 7 is the same problem as S5 and S6: it's too slow. In Seasons 1 - 4, THE FLASH would complete in six episodes what other shows would take an entire season to do: powers were learned, secrets were revealed, identities were exposed, hidden agendas were unveilled. Season 5, however, had a new showrunner and THE FLASH spent an entire season with Barry being unable to stop one guy with a magic knife. Season 6 did something neat: it split the season into two arcs. However, the individual scripts were still extremely slow. Characters wander around; they hesitate from taking action, filibustering until a commercial break, then filibustering again until somebody gives somebody else a sappy emotional speech.

The writers are struggling to write for a speedster because a speedster demands that each episode have at least three situations that can only be solved with clever application of superspeed and the current team can come up with about ten situations per season. Superspeed is extremely hard to write and the one person who was quite good at it was also crazy abusive and rightly fired off the show and blacklisted from the industry.

I think THE FLASH needs a certain mad sci-fi inventiveness at the helm, but all the writers I can think of would not be considered by the CW or WB because they don't have any TV experience.

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BATWOMAN is in a difficult position with its fans. After Ruby Rose quit the show, the fans cried for Wallis Day, but the showrunners felt that swapping Rose for Day would be visually nonsensical and instead found a new character to wear the Batwoman costume. A few episodes into Season 2, they decided that they would recast Rose's role after all but offer an explanation for why the face was different. But even after casting Wallis Day, BATWOMAN delayed and prevaricated: she was wearing a facial covering in a cameo and then absent for several episodes, then she was wearing a wooden mask, then she had her face restored but altered to look like Wallis Day instead of Ruby Rose, then she was possessed by Circe Sionis.

It reminded me a bit of what Slider_Quinn21 once said about HEROES where Bryan Fuller delayed until nearly the end of Season 1 before having Peter and Sylar fight and then it was just flashing lights with all the action off-camera -- a warning that there wasn't really much content there with two invincible beings fighting to a stalemate.

BATWOMAN delayed having Wallis Day play Kate Kane until the Season 2 finale -- and having seen Day play the role, I can see why. The story claims that Kate is the same person as Ruby Rose but with Wallis Day's face, but Day's performance is simply wrong. Day could be a great Kate Kane, but she can't play Ruby Rose's Kate Kane. Ruby Rose's Kate was distant, troubled, secretive, withdrawn. She was uncomfortable making eye contact with Mary. She was guarded with Luke, trusting him fully as an ally but hesitant to think of him as a friend and determined to make him subordinate when Luke considered himself her boss.

In contrast, Wallis Day's Kate Kane laughs with Luke and winks at him. She unreservedly hugs Mary and touches her face sweetly. She warmly shakes Ryan Wilder's hand. This is not Ruby Rose's Kate Kane. This is a much more tactile, friendly, open, trusting presence than Ruby was at her warmest.

I suspect that BATWOMAN's writers have never had a firm grasp on Ruby Rose's Kate Kane. As originally scripted, judging from the audition pages, Kate Kane was supposed to be a sophisticated socialite, a smooth-talking high society elite who felt she didn't belong anywhere but in the US Army which had rejected her. Rose auditioned for the role and ignored Kate's scripted sauveness, making Kate Kane an angry punk girl, a seething leather-clad rocker with two angry fists and a glowering scowl as her default expression. The BATWOMAN writers seemed content to write their Kate and let Rose interpret the scripts as she saw fit.

Wallis Day's Kate seems to be the originally scripted version of Kate without Ruby Rose rewriting her dialogue and reinterpreting the words, and I recognize this as a variation on the comic book version of Kate Kane. I do not recognize it as the Ruby Rose version of Kate Kane. And I think the BATWOMAN writers also do not recognize this version of Kate Kane, don't know what to do with this version of Kate Kane -- so they sent her away on some offscreen quest.

I don't know if Wallis Day will return. If Kate could be offscreen for half a season and then come back, then Wallis' version of Kate could work as Kate having changed after her travels. But Day recently retweeted a podcast titled, "How BATWOMAN Failed Kate Kane." This would indicate that Day is not contracted for Season 3, not happy that she isn't contracted for Season 3, and not concerned about upsetting BATWOMAN's writers and showrunner with her retweet because she doesn't believe there will ever be an offer for Season 3.

I'm sad about that. But the version of Kate Kane that Ruby Rose played is gone, has been since Rose left the show, and she can never come back. Wallis Day may have been a fan favourite, but when I saw her playing Ruby Rose's Kate Kane onscreen -- fairly or unfairly, she wasn't Ruby Rose's Kate Kane, she wasn't Wallis Day's Kate Kane. She was Ruby Rose's body double at best. It was the equivalent of body double Maria Stanton playing Wade in "Requiem"; it is an obvious mirage and utterly unconvincing.

Wallis Day auditioned to play Ryan Wilder. She was up for being the lead of BATWOMAN's second season and the writers could have brought her in as Kate Kane right away. They must have considered it. And it's clear to me why BATWOMAN's creators decided to bring in a new character instead and it's clear to me why they delayed having Day play Kate for as long as possible. They knew it wouldn't be the same.

I suspect that the situation with Bruce Wayne is that BATWOMAN's team can request clearance to use the character and their requests have been granted twice a season: once for CRISIS, once to use an imposter Bruce at the end of Season 1, once to wrap up the Hush arc and once for a dream sequence.

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LEGENDS has been super-fun. SUPERMAN & LOIS is like a movie.

I suspect the simplest route for a SLIDERS revival that meets Torme's requirements: in 2021, a 48 year-old Quinn Mallory discovers sliding for the first time and on his first adventure, he brings along his ex-wife (Wade), his former teacher (Arturo), and an over-the-hill R&B musician-turned music teacher (Rembrandt). Old fans of the show understand that these are not the same people we met in 1995; they are doubles of the originals. New fans view them as new characters and get into the show on the ground floor. Temporal Flux suggested the older-doubles approach for a new pilot in 2000; Slider_Quinn21 suggested that the present-day ages could be continually updated in each hypothetical reboot concept -- and if Torme is insistent on the original cast, this ensures the absolute minimum of continuity confusion even if the original versions of the characters are left as they were in 2000.

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Grizzlor wrote:

Couple things.  Firstly, an animated series is only as good as its production team.  If they get one of the typical ones, it will be fine.  Rosie is a voice acting pro by now, and he knows everybody including famed voice director Andrea Romano.  I'd definitely watch.

I find that in a typical animation project is pretty much like those DC animated direct to video films.

ireactions wrote:

The voice performances in those projects always make it obvious that the actors are recording in isolation and create the weird sense that the conversations are stitched together from the actors' voicemails. The animation is also incredibly stiff with very little performance or body language in the movements.

Grizzlor wrote:

Allison got 3 years in prison, though obviously she'll likely only have to serve half of that or whatever.  She was clearly mentally/emotionally broken in various ways, and was manipulated by Raniere.

Allison Mack is a psycho. People are constantly telling me I'm crazy, sometimes on this Bboard, sometimes in the SLIDERS Discord, but even a lunatic like me draws the line at joining a cult and branding people. Three years is way too light for a sexual abuser and human trafficker, but I understand the prosecutors cutting a deal to get Raniere in jail for what's effectively a life sentence.

Grizzlor, I congratulate you on having taken Allison Mack's Wikipedia photo. Now I ask that you stay the hell away from this convicted criminal. She is dangerous and I don't want to lose our SLIDERS.tv ambassador to a creepy cult; we already lost one guy to Trumpism.

Absolutely. I just think it was very funny and self-mocking for Shatner to write a novel in which Spock tells Kirk to prove his identity by answering the question ("The safe. What was the combination?") that Shatner failed to answer on camera in an SNL sketch and would undoubtedly fail to answer in real life as well.

There's another thing about most TV creators: most TV creators with a property would try to reboot it with a new cast and happily alter their property into whatever would sell the most easily. MACGYVER (1985) was a show about a genius secret agent with interesting hair, MacGyver. MacGyver worked alone. MacGyver avoided violence and gunplay and declared himself a pacifist (although he had some punchouts). MacGyver had come into espionage from the civilian world as a handyman, engineer and general contractor. MacGyver worked for a non-governmental firm that consulted on crisis situations and did not work for the US government and was deeply skeptical of American intelligence services and their morals and values. (Admittedly, in the first season, MacGyver fired a gun in the Pilot and was said to be a Vietnam veteran specializing in bomb disposal; these references were expunged in Season 2.)

The creator of the show, Lee David Zlotoff, had really only been involved in the first season. When the opportunity came for Zlotoff to pitch a reboot, Zlotoff altered the 2016 version to make MacGyver a more conventional 2016 action hero: MacGyver was now a former Afghanistan-experienced bomb disposal specialist for the US Army; his organization is a front for the CIA; he works on a team which has an expert marksman and a later martial artist -- which makes MacGyver's non-violent preferences oddly meaningless because he has no problem with his partners shooting and killing and beating people to a pulp. The CIA is presented as an almost totally benevolent organization devoted to relief work through various subsidiaries. MacGyver was now played by a young man in his mid-20s rather than a man in his late-30s.

Why did Zlotoff make these changes? My guess is that it made it easier to sell and Zlotoff was less concerned about maintaining his creation and more concerned with producing a pitch that CBS would be willing to buy and air.

I feel that Torme completely rejects this approach. He is only going to work on the version of SLIDERS that is true to his vision and if a studio wouldn't want to fund it or a broadcaster wouldn't want to air it, Torme is fine with that. Torme would rather not work on SLIDERS than work on a version of SLIDERS that isn't the version he wants to make, and the version he wants to make is with the original cast that accounts for the passage of time since 1994 / 1995 / 2000. To him, a continuity reboot with a new cast is a version of SLIDERS that somebody else can try to make.

Well, I would argue that the budget in S4 - 5 was severely mismanaged by:

  • That ridiculous Chandler Hotel set which was lavish, overlarge and devoured the episodic budget with its rental and maintenance fees

  • The constant emphasis on stories that are presented and resolved in terms of gunfights, vehicle chases, fistfights, laser beams, historical reenactment groups playing cowboys and civil war soldiers, motorcycle stunts, etc.

  • Repeatedly stripping episodes of their episodic budget to set aside money for a grand scale series finale (that was never filmed)

  • Leather jackets

I think Torme wouldn't have written scripts that needed an action budget and therefore wouldn't strain against the restrictions the way the Sci-Fi years often did.

I don't know if SLIDERS needs to be an expensive show. It could be filmed in Toronto with stock footage of San Francisco intercut with studio and outdoor shots. The harbourfront could represent the coastal areas of San Francisco. SLIDERS only has one critical effect: the vortex. Alternate realities on the Torme model are best presented through set dressing, signs, costuming, news articles and segments, dialogue and performances, not computer generated special effects. Crises are addressed through conversation and negotiation. Peacock could probably do a SLIDERS reboot with a new cast, a revival with the original cast, a Disney Channel style version and might still have spent less than they did on SAVED BY THE BELL.

I was reading Sabrina Lloyd saying on Instagram (paraphrasing): "Thanks so much for all the SLIDERS questions. I'm glad the show meant so much to you, but I have to be honest: I can barely remember anything about it."

It reminded me of this SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE sketch that William Shatner did where a fan asks Shatner: what was the combination to the safe in Captain Kirk's quarters? And Shatner says he doesn't know, he doesn't remember.

In William Shatner's novel, STAR TREK: AVENGER, there's scene where Kirk and Spock are locked up and don't know if one or the other may be a hologram. Spock asks Kirk to prove his identity by saying, "The safe. What was the combination?"

And Kirk says, "Five three four," thinking to himself: that's the birth months of his brother, himself, and his nephew. Three numbers he could never forget.

There was a point to this story, but I've forgotten what it was.

Well, if every time a show in development resulted in an actual show on the air, we'd have had seven SLIDERS revivals by now. But it really means a lot to me that Tracy Torme would still care about SLIDERS so much that he would try to bring it back with Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo as embodied by Jerry, Sabrina, Cleavant and John. And to know that this specific version of the show is the one he wants to see return. Thank you again for sharing this, JWSlider3.