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SPOILERS / FINALE SPECULATION ON THE FLASH
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So I think we can agree that HR is the one that died to prove that he had a purpose? Could that possibly mean that Tom Cavanaugh is not coming back next year? His "scientist" role replaced with Tracy? Or would we get a 4th (5th?) Wells?
Season 4 was pretty great. After it was just one of those series that I watched for a long time, it got some footing. I don't know how good Inhumans will be, but I'm wondering if the tag at the end has to do with them. We won't see season 5 of AoS until after Inhumans ends. We'll have also had Thor: Ragnarok in between then and now, so the whole universe could be different by that point.
Not that much of that matters. Agents of Shield can definitely stand on its own now.
I heard an interview with James Gunn. I figured he'd sound exactly like Sam Rockwell (because he looks like Sam Rockwell sorta), and he doesn't. It freaked me out a bit.
I also thought GOTG Vol. 2 was fun.
People have their teams, just like with football.
Exactly. You hate everything your rivals do, even if it's probably something you'd love for your team to do. I honestly think that a good percentage of the problem with the health care debate is that each party wants credit for it. I think the Republicans could pass an identical bill to ACA, and the Democrats would try and vote it down. Because each party wants to campaign with "we fixed health care"
It isn't really about helping people or anything. It's about the appearance of helping people to get votes next time. As someone who doesn't identify with either party, it's infuriating.
And what's crazy is I don't think I'm that different from most people. I'm liberal in certain areas and conservative in others. In the last election, I voted for nearly the same number of democrats and republicans and went with 3rd parties (left and right) a few times. Siding unilateral with either party is confusing to me.
My biggest problem is the loss of civility in most public debates. It wasn't too long ago that people could have a political discourse, disagree, and try to find common ground. Nowadays, I don't think there's even any attempt to find that common ground. Or, frankly, any desire to.
(None of this applies to anyone here, I'm mostly talking about what I see on social media).
People used to dislike the other party. Now they hate them. People used to tolerate people who voted differently. Now there's all kinds of slurs and insults. Look on Twitter or Facebook and try to make a partisan-like comment. You'll either be told about Trump's fascism or Hillary's murders or gay sex with Vladimir Putin or Bill's rapes. If there was ever a topic, it gets derailed immediately.
I saw a discussion on health care fall apart when two people with handles that were very anti-Trump got mad at each other over whether or not Hillary was a monster. They were basically on the same side of the argument, but since one was for Hillary and one was for Bernie, they could no longer find common ground.
It's been happening for years, and I'm not sure who fired the first shot. My earliest memory was the vitriol that people had for George W, but I'm sure it happened before that. But the hatred from the left for W turned into hate towards Obama from the right. This election was hyper-negative from day one, and most people were voting *against* someone instead of voting *for* someone. We were told that anyone from the coasts are elitist assholes and everyone from the rest of the country are racist idiots. People lost friends and exiled relatives.
What's scary to me is, on both sides, how eager people are to hate. To threaten violence. To *incite* violence. To the point where we could have an American president killed with zero mourning. Half the country would celebrate and half would be angry.
And this was right after I recovered from the shock of seeing The Exorcist on the FOX schedule.
Is that show good?
There's never been this type of danger to the Republic since The Civil War. Whether this moron lasts 2 years, 4 years, whatever, the damage he will inflict to the institutions of this nation will take much longer to repair, if ever.
I honestly don't understand this sentiment. Is Trump doing damage to the country? Probably. Is it potentially dangerous across the world? Probably. I can't answer "yes" to either of these questions because I don't consider myself well-read enough to definitively answer either way.
But unless someone launches nukes, nothing is irreparable. Trump is a shitty president. But we've had shitty presidents before. Loads of them. We've had a celebrity president before (Kennedy and Reagan, in their own ways, were celebrities like Trump). We've had crazy presidents (Andrew Jackson was ten times crazier than Trump, and I won't allow an argument to be made for the contrary). We've had presidents who didn't know what they were doing and just wanted to be president because it sounded cool (Warren G. Harding just wanted to play poker with his friends).
The Republic survived. And it will survive Trump.
People always want to believe that we live in the X-est time in history. For millennia, people have believed that they're living in the end times. But, more these days, we want to talk about things in hyperbole. "2016 was the WORST YEAR EVER" "Race Relations are the worst they've been since the CIVIL WAR" "Bush/Obama/Trump is HITLER" When, in all those cases, it's hyperbole. 2016 probably isn't in the worst 1000 years ever, race relations are much better than they were in a lot of people's lifetimes despite everything that's happened, and there was one Hitler and he's dead.
Well, you know what I mean. Nothing happened.
Trump's an idiot and an embarrassment, but I have trouble calling him a fascist since he's so....ineffectual. The Muslim ban was pretty fascist, but it failed. People rose up against it, and it didn't work. He tried to repeal ACA, and it didn't work. He's trying again, and it....probably won't work. There's no wall or any real movement on the wall. Hillary isn't in prison.
He has a Republican Congress, and he's accomplished...almost nothing?
I'm still not totally comfortable calling it SyFy.
Yeah, I think it would have had more weight to it if this were the consequence of something that our Barry did, but they might have wanted to keep him from having that guilt. The thing is, if they kill Savitar, or stop him in some other way, does their whole world change? If they stop Savitar, does Wally stop being Kid Flash? Does Julian go back to not working with Team Flash?
Wally absolutely should lose his powers. Just erasing Savitar's memories did that. Julian was still there so presumably that....still happened? I have no idea. Like I said, their time travel logic was worse than usual this week.
As far as I'm aware, Time Remnants are exact duplicates of the person. That's how it's always appeared (Zoom, Thawne, and Barry)
It would have worked better if this remnant had been the one who seemingly sacrificed himself to stop Zoom, alive but scarred, insane and furious at Barry having abandoned him and not even considering him real.
I actually thought that's where they were going when Savitar-Barry mentioned Zoom. I thought they played sorta loose with the idea that Barry was "killing himself" last season with the time remnants, and this would've been an appropriate "consequence" for that.
Like you said, it's adequate.
The Arrowverse needs some work, for sure. I don't know what the plan is for Arrow next year....it's been better and they've shown that they don't really need the flashbacks to tell stories (they didn't have them at all one week, and they had a flashback to last year last week). I think everyone involved knew the show needed to try and get more to its roots, and they've done well with that this year.
Flash needs a soft reboot. Barry needs to be over all his demons this year, and he needs to be a positive, happy-go-lucky force for good. The show needs to be fun.
I don't know what I'd do with Legends, honestly. I still wish it'd be an anthology series, but that ship seems to have sailed.
I haven't watched, but Kripke did say he'd work to get it picked up somewhere else. Would it work on the CW? I wonder if he still has enough equity there?
That actually might be a really good comparison.
Gotham renewed for Season 4!
I'm confused. Am I supposed to hate Comey? Love him? Feel sorry for him? Love that he got fired but not in the way he did? Wish he wasn't fired but that he would be better?
I've been told so many thing by both sides that I honestly don't know how I feel.
I can't find the old Sleepy Hollow post, but I wanted to say a couple things about it.
First off, I think it's been really fun this year. A lot like season one. I think the new people have meshed really well, and the stories they're telling are interesting. I think Dreyfuss and taking over America with supernatural help is a great move for the series, and they've kept Sleepy Hollow close (enough) that it doesn't feel like a spin-off.
Second, they called it the "season finale" but I wonder if it will be back. Even with half the original cast, it can't be cheap, and the ratings are about 2/3 what they were last year (when it was brought back for less episodes on a Friday). That being said, it's just a half-season show, and it seemed to do okay on a Friday. Maybe it will be back.
Third, it's really weird that we've had a couple different flash forwards, and they still haven't really explained what happened to cause Dreyfus' America. So he kills the president and becomes president? Becomes emperor? Other than change the flag and execute political prisoners, what's different about his country? I'm sure they have budget restraints of showing too much (thus the story told in children's drawings), but they can tell us about it in dialogue and it doesn't cost anything
Fourth, it reminds me a lot of Fringe's final two seasons. And not just because John Noble is back.
And....it's cancelled.
Re: The Flash
Their explanation makes sense. He's a time remnant who was forgotten and ignored (and they only did that because they were already fractured at that point, I assume) and so in order to create himself, he has to kill Iris. It's dumb time travel logic, but it holds (some) water.
My issue is with the rest of the episode. I get that you don't want an amnesiac as a titular hero.....but the plan worked. Savitar was pacified, and he could've been taken down. Barry was prepared to kill himself to kill Savitar....why wouldn't everyone be okay with him (temporarily) losing his memories?
I get that the building was on fire, people were in danger, and Flash didn't have control of his powers. But Barry seemingly had better control of his powers the first time, and while Wally said he could explain how to Flash to him, he didn't try. I think they should've stuck with the plan.
And even though Wally didn't have his powers (so there wasn't a speedster on Earth One who could fight Barry), Cisco's powers still worked. Go grab Jesse. Or Supergirl. Or, and I hate to harp on this (no I don't), Team Arrow could handle an amnesiac Barry, right? If Flash-Barry can't control his powers, why would Savitar?
Re: Savitar. Barry and Time-Remnant Barry shouldn't be any different, right? They're essentially the same person with no memories. So why does Barry wake up all happy and cheerful and Savitar wakes up and immediately attacks Killer Frost? That's implying that Savitar-Barry is naturally evil, and I don't think that's what they're going for.
I also don't understand how this round of time travel causality works. If Savitar losing his memories takes away Wally's speed (because Savitar couldn't create Kid Flash), why does Savitar exist at all? Following the causality loop....would the Savitar Time Remnant need to be created...so Savitar shouldn't exist.
It could've been a really fun episode (like Smallville's "Blank" was), but it ended up being a bit of a mess IMO.
Supergirl had another direct reference to Batman tonight. He's never gonna appear (or even get a proper mention) but it's nice to know he's out there
Re: Voyager and "Endgame"
I haven't seen this since it aired, but there's a lot of good things here. The problem, as is the case with a lot of Voyager, is a lazy amount of planning. The stuff in the episode is all good, and I think if the ideas in the episode were a season-long arc, it could've been a really good one. The problem is that everything feels detached....like it belongs to a completely different season of the show.
Imagine if Endgame part one were the first episode of the season. Tuvok's mental degradation could be a season-long arc. He's diagnosed at the start, makes a mistake here and there, then it gets worse and worse until he realizes he's a danger to the crew. Same with Seven and Chakotay. Instead of randomly popping up, it could be something that develops. They could also discover that the Borg transportation hub exists and spend the season trying to find it. Maybe they have to go in the wrong direction....making the decision to abandon it much more weighty.
I know Voyager never really worked that way, and it's a little easier to see with TV the way it is now. But it's crazy that they had the ideas and then just crammed them all nonsensically into one episode.
I can only think that it's some sort of self-flaggelation. He wants to hurt himself because of what he's done, and the best way to do that is to kill Iris.
Or Savitar is using one of those face-switching things to mess with Barry, and there's ONE REVEAL LEFT.
Checking to make sure Informant is still alive after that episode of Olicity....er, I mean, Arrow.
His politics aside....what do Mulder and Scully have to do with mundane political issues? Even if Trump were the fascist mastermind that people paint him to be (and he's not, he can't get anything done even with control of Congress), that's not even their area of expertise. For it to be an X-File, he'd have to be an alien or a werewolf or working with aliens and werewolves.
Or is it going to be a straightforward "This is more important than X-Files! This is about America!" kind of thing?
Joe Harris, who writes the X-FILES comics, recently revealed in a podcast that his next story arc will be Mulder and Scully taking on the Trump administration in a storyline entitled "Resistance."
Is Trump going to end up being an alien or a vampire or something? Or is it just going to be a standard FBI story with no supernatural elements where they take Trump down? Something like X-Files: Homeland?
I've seen some talk on Flash that it needs a light reboot. I'm hoping that defeating "himself" is the end of Barry feeling sorry for himself and feeling bad about his past. If this is a 3-year arc, and they can move passed it to something more fun next season...I think it'll be fine.
They've already said that next season won't have a speedster as a big bad. Y'all would know better than me...have they basically already used every speedster villain?
I wouldn't mind if they stretched out of the Flash mythos. They can't use Batman villains (Gotham) or Superman villains (Supergirl). But what about other big-time DC villains? Would they be allowed to use someone like Siniestro? Or Amazo? Or Ares? Or even someone like Black Adam?
Especially if they aren't going to use any of those heroes. Wouldn't there villains still be around either way?
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The trailer for the Defenders. More hallway fight fun!
(It does look good. And is only 8 episodes.)
Re: Savitar revelation. Spoilers.
Does it make sense? I mean, I can see that Barry could be twisted. And I could see that Barry's own mistakes are what's led to this point so it makes sense that his "demons" would "manifest" in himself becoming a villain.
But I still think back to the Caitlin moment where she immediately trusts him. Even if she saw the scars, she didn't trust Barry. It's why my Ronnie theory makes more sense - he's someone she'd immediately begin working with. Barry...not so much.
Also, is he a time remnant? Because this presumably isn't the Barry that we saw last episode....it's another one? Or is it that Barry from even further out? Or is that impossible since Savitar is trapped in the Speed Force? And how can Tracy's plan be linked to trapping Savitar in the Speed Force through his metal when Wally (and then Jay) were both trapped in the Speed Force without the metal? Is the metal the key to the jail but not necessarily the jail itself?
Interesting thought exercise.
What if Batman/Superman went a very different direction? I know that's not a unique exercise, even here. But I was thinking about it, and I think they could've done a story that's unique to both characters on film. It's way different than what we got, but I think it plays with a bunch of the same themes.
Opening plays out the same way. Batman sees what happened in Metropolis and is super angry. Locates the kryptonite and attacks in the first act of the movie. Clark has been working around the clock to save people, fix his image, etc, and he's caught completely off guard. They fight for a bit and (insert comic technobabble/magic/whatever), something happens and both heroes are shot backwards.
Clark moves to continue the attack. Batman steps back in a defensive manner. Clark stays where he is. Batman ends up in the middle of nowhere. For whatever reason, Batman is now superhuman and Clark isn't.
So you have Clark Kent now what he's always wanted to be - normal. Not only that, but he has this giant weight lifted off him - he's not responsible for everyone anymore. He can't hear the screams anymore, and he doesn't feel obligated to try and save everyone. He's still fascinated by what happened, but he has no idea who the Batman is. He has no idea how the change happened. He lets himself enjoy the moment - he goes back to work and goes back to Lois.
Bruce, meanwhile, is flipping out. Now *he's* the alien? He went up against the alien and won. Not only did he remove the threat, but now the power is in *the right hands*. And, yeah, he's struggling with controlling *any* of his powers, but he's Batman. He'll mediate and do tai chi and figure it out.
I just came up with this in the last few minutes so it's not refined, and I don't really have a 2nd/3rd act. I'm sure Batman would lose control and mess something up when he was trying to fight crime. And Clark would use his journalism skills to figure out what happened and who Batman is and work to get his powers back after he realizes Batman can't handle them.
But by the end of the movie, Batman would understand what Superman was all about. He'd know that he's not some crazy alien - that he used his power responsibly and did it better than Batman ever could. We'd get to see a human side of Clark because that's all there'd be.
And if you ended with Clark's sacrifice, I think it sets up the same way. Clark's gone, and Batman feels this great pressure to honor him. And he's had this great power, and now he has to assemble the Justice League because he *knows* he isn't enough to fight all the darkness.
I know that's the kind of movie that Hollywood wouldn't make, but I think it would've been a more natural sequel to Man of Steel (Clark, having accepted himself, now gets what he thought he always wanted) and gives us a different take on Batman who now understands where this part of his life needs to take him.
Not meant to be a criticism of BvS (I'm still in BvS jail) - just an idea I had all of the sudden this morning.
There was a sneak peak during Gotham so they're still working on cross-promoting. They must've heard us!
What's our thinking on the recent "is Wonder Woman getting promoted enough?" storyline in the media right now? There's a fair share of DC hate, but it's also a bit weird that there hasn't been as much promotion yet. I forget all the time that it's coming, despite being optimistic based on what we've seen.
At the same time, I also feel like Guardians of the Galaxy kinda snuck up on me. I've only started seeing cross-promotions and TV spots recently.
Maybe the process is just different than it used to be? I don't know.
And if that's the case, I think it's a pretty cool idea
For the final scene of the last episode, Ronnie makes the most sense. He's the person who has a connection to both Caitlin (obvious) and Killer Frost (Deathstorm from Earth-2). Caitlin wanted to kill Barry so I don't know why she'd immediately trust a future version of Barry.
I think that's the primary theory out there.
My theory is that he's Ronnie Raymond from the future. That's why he went to Caitlin and why she trusted him immediately. I'm probably wrong.
I think it's a delicate balance. I have no problem with shows keeping their casts together, but I think it's different when it's heroes and villains. No one gets mad when, say, Coulson escapes death over and over again because he's the hero. When he survives, it's a win.
When Sylar survives, the "win" is either minimized or taken away completely. In the audience, it's frustrating.
There are clearly ways to keep villains around when they're interesting. But sorta like "will they, won't they" romances in sitcoms, there's a delicate balance. Most of the fun is watching them go bad. Once they go fully evil, then there's a countdown clock that starts. And once it hits zero, the character needs to go away.
What's funny is that it doesn't really matter what the villain does...just whether the hero knows it. Look at Hannibal. Hannibal is an evil, awful person from the start of the show. We're supposed to hate him, but he's charming. His friendship with Will Graham is fascinating. So we're cool with whatever he does....and we're thrilled watching Will try and catch him. But once Will knows, the countdown starts.
It was fun watching Lex and Clark on Smallville. Lex would bend a rule here, compromise his morals there, and he was a lot of fun. But once his villainy became cartoonish, he stopped being fun, and I wanted Clark to take him down. If Clark didn't take him down, it was a failure of our hero and less fun.
With Sylar, he was always 100% evil. He's a serial killer. A villain. Beating him was the whole point, and when he kept coming back, it was a failure. A problem. I didn't have any interest in his redemption because I didn't think he was worthy of it. And I knew, sooner or later, he'd be back t his old tricks.
I think the same can be said for Ward. He went fully bad, and the team took him down. The show had some fun with him as Hive, and then he died again. The show as able to move on, and I think it was better for it.
I know he's technically a different person, but if Ward comes back to life, it's going to be like Ward (season 1-3 one) found a loophole and redeemed himself. When I still see Ward (fairly or unfairly, including the fake one) as being evil. Like Daisy, I don't trust him. Even though it'd be like holding one twin accountable for the sins of another one.
It just feels cheap to me.
And I forgot about Felicity's boyfriend too. Interesting.
Well as I was watching, I kept thinking "Why does she keep going this far to stop Prometheus? Wouldn't this have been better for other villains? I mean Darhk caused her to nuke a town." But then I realized her cop friend. And since there was a 1/2 chance that the cop friend was going to *be* Prometheus, I didn't really get attached to him.
And why was this super hacker kept so mysterious?
I'm guessing he'll be a big bad either for an episode or maybe more. Maybe like the Darhk tease in season 3.
The daughter thing was weird. I think they should have played that differently. It was an awkward story.
It's bizarre because they're trying to show that he's dangerous but not dangerous....and his excuses are just childish. He thinks he's a danger to his daughter because she burned herself on soup? Not because he's a vigilante? Not because he kills people? The soup?!?
Having Lance force him to face his daughter was a cool move. Everything else was written really poorly.
A couple notes about Arrow this week:
1. I wish that Felicity's boyfriend had been someone the audience cared about a little more...or we'd been led to believe that Felicity cared a little more. I don't necessarily buy that she'd be this gung ho to take down Chase because of it. I'd almost forgotten that his death is why she's so mad.
2. I like humanizing Wild Dog, but is "she burned herself on soup because I was drunk" the best reason for a man not to want to see his daughter?
3. No flashbacks this week. How'd we feel about that?
Hahah, I'm probably revealing how I'm usually messing around on my phone or my laptop when I watch these shows
It really is well done. Although I'm wondering if this is going to be a problem for the show. Giving Ward a chance for redemption is interesting, but what if they use this as a way to bring Ward back into the real world as a good guy? It wouldn't really be redeeming our Ward, but I was actually pretty impressed by the idea that they moved beyond Ward in a way that Heroes never moved beyond Sylar.
Now he's back, and I'm worried they're going to use this as a way to bring him back. Maybe Tripp too.
If they don't do that, I'm actually really impressed by this segment. It's playing on a lot of the show's mythology....which brings up how much actual mythology the show has to play with.
Now that you mention those, I remember all that Except the part about Thawne leaving STAR Labs to Barry. Would that have been public? Is Barry rich now?
I guess the world got over the fact that HR shares a face with a guy who is believed to be a mass murderer?
Have they ever tried giving an explanation for how Harry and/or HR even lives on Earth 1? Does he have a fake ID? A credit card? Did/do they both live at STAR labs? Does HR have any money? It's basically a Sliders situation....he shouldn't exist.
Now that I think about it, money is never mentioned. Are Caitlin and Cisco still employed at STAR Labs? Who owns it? Did Harrison Wells leave it to one of them? And, if so, did he also leave other money? Who's financing any of this?
At least with Arrow, they've used Queen money to pay for everything. Although I have no idea whether or not Oliver has any money or if Felicity is still running PalmerTech or if any of those businesses still exist.
Re: The Once and Future Flash
I appreciate that we went from scene to scene checking on everyone on Team Flash, but where was Oliver? Felicity? Anyone from the Legends? Did they all give up on Barry?
Just once...I want the Arrowverse to have Team Arrow cover for Team Flash or vice versa when things go down. They don't really seem to ever consider it. Team Arrow is responsible for Star City and Team Flash is responsible for Central City. They'll team up, but they don't really leave their jurisdiction, do they?
Well seasons 1 and 2 are great too.
(I have the same problem).
I need to try Fargo sometime.
Start now. It's anthology and the seasons only loosely connect. Season 3 just started last week. Episode 2 on tonight
If I were an app designer, I'd design an app that can manage payments/subscriptions to all of the various services (just the payment sides, not the actual viewing).
I think that'll be the next evolution. You'd either tell them what channels you want or tell them what shows you want and they make it work.
If the cable companies are smart, this is what they should be doing.
"I want to watch Gotham, the Flash, Colony, Fargo, the Leftovers, and Texas Rangers baseball. *click*" and it gives me a price and subscribes me to everything I need.
It's what's coming. Everyone's wanted a la carte TV for a while, and this is what they're offering. I don't like it either, but Netflix is pulling a lot of their TV shows/movies to make room for their own stuff. I'm sure Amazon and Hulu will follow suit once they follow the same model. HBO is already doing that with their stuff (although apparently they didn't pull their stuff from Amazon as was rumored).
Once/if networks realize they can get more for their own content on their own service, they're going to want to go that direction. And cable as we know it won't exist....you'll "subscribe" to AMC, HBO, the CW, Netflix, and Amazon and that's how you'll watch.
That is interesting. Hopefully those shows have (relatively) high production value. If so, they could really do some cool stuff there.
I think it's kinda funny that they kept "I'm a reporter at Catco" in the opening segment on Supergirl even though Kara was fired. They'll sometimes change it up for certain episodes...it'd be funny if they changed it to "most people know me as an unemployed bum" or something
I would do the same. I think it's a mistake to have this hanging over their heads for a couple more years.
Actually, if she and Luke died together, that would be kinda poetic. Twins and all that.
Yeah, but I think these are still movies for kids. Killing off one of the big three is fine, I think. Two might be too many.
IV: Obi-Wan
V: No one?
VI: Yoda, Vader, Palpatine, Boba Fett
I: Qui-Gon, Maul (?)
II: Jango Fett?
III: Padme, Dooku, Grevious, Mace Windu, random Jedi
VII: Han
Those are all the main deaths, right?
And does no one really die in Empire Strikes Back? I'm changing the subject to that now.
So I don't know why this Leia stuff is bothering me so much, but I think I've decided what I would do. It'd involve pushing the release date of Episode VIII (or working really quickly).
I'd reshoot the ending to VIII.
I'm assuming there's a time where Leia is in danger and doesn't die. I'd reshoot it where she does die. CG, body double, the ship she's on exploding...something. I think her dying offscreen is just wrong, and if she's going to die, it should be in one of the movies. It'd involve adding a funeral to Episode VIII and possibly making a handful of changes to the ending (which would have ripples in Episode IX, of course) because if Luke was supposed to die, I don't think both can die in the same movie.
She gets a hero's death, and it's all contained on screen. If she can't ride into the sunset then I think her character deserves that much.
(Again, I don't know why this is bothering me. I don't even like Star Wars that much).
Snoke just sounds like a character from a Dr. Seuss book. It's not cartoony but intimidating like Vader or Maul or Sidious or even Grevious. It's just cartoony.
Try to imagine that Snoke appears in Episode VIII and kills Luke. Now imagine Rey screaming "SSSSNNNNNOOOOOKKKKKEEEEE" (like Kirk's "Khan!" line) without that line being utterly ridiculous (infinitely more ridiculous than Kirk's "Khan!" line). I just can't take that name seriously.
Every time I hear the name "Snoke", I roll my eyes. In a universe with Jar-Jar Binks, Boba Fett, Dexter Jettster, Sheev Palpatine, and a species called the Mon Calamari....Snoke stands above the rest as the goofiest name.
I don't mind mythology episodes as long as there's thought behind them. But, yeah, standalone episodes usually have more potential for fun because anything can happen.
I don't think Fox will rush them. They're doing some revolutionary/bizarre things with their lineup. They'll probably just air whenever they're done, bumping whatever was going to be on at the time (no matter what that is or where that show is in their airing schedule )
In my head, I've written a Supernatural/Arrowverse crossover a half-dozen different ways. It always takes place on Supernatural, though. I think it'd be more fitting there....they've been to our world after all. Or, at least, a meta version of it.
I can't decide which of the brothers would like a superhero world, though.
(I've taken us way off topic)
Yeah, I could see that. I'm hoping they keep it at that....I don't think we need a 3rd version of Superman running at the same time
(Unless it's Tom Welling )
How is he aware of his grandson's existence? Will there be time travel? Or is that just for marketing?
This is just my personal approach -- for me, the prequels are not canon because they're hopelessly in opposition to the original trilogy. Saying Leia didn't train to become a ghost and wouldn't become one ignores how Vader didn't train to bcome a ghost either, and here is no reconciling the discrepancy, just as there is no explaining how Leia remembers her mother in ROTJ but is shown to be adopted at birth in ROTS. The prequels are not a viable source and the two Disney SW films have, aside from using some of the actors, largely stepped away from them, treating them almost like the novels, comics and video games that were relabelled under the LEGENDS brand.
I actually looked into the Vader thing today, and there's a theory that sorta works on how Vader would've learned how. He would've seen Obi-Wan disappear and would've been freaked out by it. A student of the Force, he'd look into how that was possible (much like Qui-Gon did), maybe even following Qui-Gon's footsteps. He might've studied it, not knowing that it only works for Jedi....or possibly learned it anyway...and then it worked when he redeemed himself.
It's very flimsy, but it's the only theory people seem to have on how Vader could've learned it.
A Force Ghost is a pretty solid way to show that she's still "alive" and "happy" if that's an option. I just had no idea if that's even something that could be considered. Because even though she's Force sensitive, it takes a special training to become a Force Ghost, and like you said, even other Jedi in the prequel don't become Force Ghosts.
Leia is a Jedi, which introduces another wrinkle in Carrie Fisher's death as Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin and Qui-Gon were Force ghosts. Will they have to find some way to explain why she doesn't appear as a ghost? Even Alec Guinness appeared in THE FORCE AWAKENS despite being dead.
Is Leia a Jedi? Is it established that she ever trained?
And I was under the impression that becoming a Force Ghost was something that had to be learned. I guess if Leia trained as a Jedi (between ROTJ and TFA), she might've learned that trick. But if she was just a general the whole time, would she have learned how to become one? I thought the deleted scene in Revenge of the Sith implied that Qui-Gon had figured it out after a long time of people not knowing how to do it.
Right, but even if Chekov lives happily ever after, there is no way to address that fact or not address it without it being a huge distraction to the overall plot. It's all any of us will be thinking about.
I think something like this would work:
KIRK enters the ENTERPRISE BRIDGE. MCCOY approaches him.
MCCOY - How'd it go?
KIRK - Good. They want us to go to Starbase 117 to pick up the ambassador.
MCCOY - Klingons?
KIRK - Klingons. Oh, by the way, I got a message from Chekov.
MCCOY - You mean Captain Chekov.
KIRK - At this point, it'll be Admiral Chekov before any of us know it. I'm going to have to salute him before long.
Something like that. It might make us feel sorry for Yelchin, but we can still be happy for Chekov
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