Musk's gesture looked like a Nazi salute to me and the far right and neo-Nazis have embraced Musk as one of their own. The Anti-Defamation League claims it was not a Nazi salute, but white supremacists have celebrated the salute as a Nazi gesture.
To defend the salute when it was embraced by neo-Nazis and white supremacists strikes me as self-affiliating with Nazism and white supremacy.
As for the rest of Grizzlor's post: I find it transphobic, bigoted, either ignorant or disingenuous, and an attack on me, and on transgender and non-binary individuals, simply for existing and reading this board. He may not intend it to be so, but let's go through each transphobic and bigoted comment.
Grizzlor wrote:Absolutely over the top (largely out of nowhere) crusade to infuse 'trans' sensitive everything, everywhere.
Your comment falsely implies that increasing visibility and inclusion of transgender issues and identities is unnecessary and intrusive as opposed to a long-overdue effort towards recognizing a significant population and their inherent rights and liberties as human beings. You're implying that transgender indviduals, just for merely existing and claiming personhood in a democracy, is a hostile attack on you and that they have no right to advocacy.
Grizzlor wrote:They could not understand why parents were uncomfortable with 'drag queen story time'????
This comment is transphobic and ignorant, conflating drag performers with issues surrounding transgender individuals. Engaging in drag and being transgender are not the same concepts. Someone who conflates the two is either doing so ignorantly or doing so deliberately to engage in bigotry by deriding transgender identities as performative and insincere.
Regardless of the reason, someone who speaks this way about drag performers and the transgender is does not have the knowledge to offer an informed opinion on either one.
There is no evidence that children are harmed by drag performers and transgender identities. Anyone who uses such rhetoric is using the concept of defenceless children to justify transphobic bigotry and prejudice and falsely portraying all transgender individuals and their allies as child predators.
Grizzlor wrote:Trans-women make up a large portion of women's prisons, putting actually WOMEN at risk.
This declares that the mere existence of transgender women is inherently dangerous to cisgender women, pointedly ignoring what transgender individuals have to deal with themselves in prison, declaring the well-being of cisgender women and only cisgender women are to be considered. Like the drag performer/transgender conflation, it is a transphobic, bigoted and prejudiced framing designed to present transgender individuals as threats and dangers and undeserving of human compassion.
Grizzlor wrote:Biological men in women's sports. Very safe.
This comment about "biological men" is deliberately dismissive of transgender identity. The sarcastic "very safe" again implies that transgender women are a threat simply for existing, whether in women's sports or elsewhere, simply by being transgender, and that's not true.
Grizzlor wrote:Ron DeSantis breezed in Florida when he went up against this crap, easily defeating supposedly all powerful Disney, because the VOTERS approved of it.
An electoral victory may legislate bigotry, prejudice and transphobia, but it does not make it any less transphobic or morally and ethically broken.
Grizzlor wrote:Middle of the roaders try to argue how this is insane, they are labeled viciously.
It's interesting that the person implying "out of nowhere" that I'm a child predator for respecting the civil rights and liberties of the transgender community is complaining about being "labeled viciously."
When someone conflates transgender identity and drag, declares transgender individuals are a threat for existing and advocating, portrays transgender people as child predators and uses electoral wins to validate transphobia, they are clearly not a gender studies scholar or qualified to offer a 'middle of the road' perspective.
Middle of the road would be arguing that transgender political campaigns aren't effective at winning voters. None of these comments are 'middle of the road'. They are prejudiced bigotry. They are transphobic and and disappointingly commonplace for transgender communities to face.
They call it being "labeled viciously" when seen as transphobic after accusing transgender people and drag performers of being child predators and threats to cisgender women for existing; I'd call it being labelled accurately and anyone who dislikes being labelled as a bigot for bigotry could try looking in the mirror for who's at fault for that.
But when coming from this person, it may not necessarily be hatred.
I've seen a similar attitude from this person towards radioplays and the TV show STAR TREK: PRODIGY. This person wasn't really into audio drama or TREK animation, and in their general life, they gravitated elsewhere and weren't burning down recording and animation studios or anything insane.
But in their online discourse: whenever someone else raised audio or animation, this person had an intriguingly uncontrollable compulsion to respond and convey their fundamental intolerance and contempt for audio drama and cartoons and anything outside their tastes and personal perception of normalcy and anything they saw as 'other'. It's not enough to be uninterested; they need to actively act out their disdain.
The fact that its is present in how this person relates (or doesn't) to audio and sci-fi TV and the transgender community and the drag community suggests a general inability to handle human differences of taste and identity in a positive or even neutral way.
You know, Greg, I was really upset when you implied I was a terrorist for wearing a mask in public retail situations, but you effectively calling me a child predator for saying transgender people are people is... I mean, wow, Greg. This is quite the escalation.
Anyway. I'm going to find some trans-advocacy group and make a donation and also rewatch the transgender episode of QUANTUM LEAP and maybe some of us should learn the difference between drag and transgender, among other things, before speaking on it.
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