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ireactions wrote:

Well, that is the kind of store that is clearly also not existing in Canada, certainly not as a chain. Why wouldn't it exist in the US?

In terms of why it no longer exists in Canada, there are clearly a number of factors. Factory Direct bought refunded-returned items from Best Buy and Amazon and Staples and whatnot for pennies on the dollar (an exaggeration), engaged in cursory inspection, discarded any items that were clearly too broken to sell, and put the rest on the shelves. A $800 smartphone retailed for $400, and went down by $50 a year, and Factory Direct made a good profit on that for a long time.

I personally never had a bad experience, but some Factory Direct customers reported that their products were defective and had to be exchanged repeatedly to get a working item. I suspect that Factory Direct's inspections of their inventory were limited, and they relied on customers exchanging defective items rather than pre-sale quality control.

For a long time, their sales were strong enough to withstand it, but Factory Direct may have built a bad reputation if too many customers had too many exchanges to the point where customers started paying more money elsewhere so that they wouldn't need to do repeated exchanges.

In 2020, Factory Direct probably saw increased sales of electronics due to people staying home, and may have overpurchased in anticipation for rising sales in 2021 - 2022 only for inflation to hit hard in 2023.

There's the fact that Factory Direct couldn't really raise their prices very much. If refurbished products go up in price, then the value of buying refurbished versus new is eliminated. Also, in 2023, Factory Direct's main customers were probably shopping there less. People on already low budgets who were now finding anything from Factory Direct now too expensive for them and viewed Factory Direct as a luxury.

People with more disposable income had probably always bought the full-priced latest and greatest. People who were tech-savvy enough to see Factory Direct for the great deals that it had may have also preferred to buy their items from online retailers who shipped products directly to buyers' homes and didn't require an in-store visit.

The people who once turned to Factory Direct for affordable tech were probably not buying any tech at all. In addition, Factory Direct didn't own its locations; it was renting those properties, and the rent against diminished profit led to an unsustainable situation.

Personally, I think Factory Direct offered amazing value, selling 2 - 4 year old smartphones that were so powerful that they wouldn't really suffer in terms of performance, while admittedly missing out on the latest screen refresh rates and low light camera lenses of newer technology. What could Factory Direct have done to survive?

They might have considered ending their existence as a bricks and mortar shop and taken their business entirely online, although it would have required more extensive review of their refurbished goods to avoid wasting shipping costs on exchanges.

They might have been able to focus exclusively on phones, tablets, laptops and desktops. Factory Direct was probably wasting its shelf space and time on selling blenders, coffeemakers, kettles and ice cream makers.

In a world of $2,000 smartphones, laptops and desktops, Factory Direct might have been able to carve out a niche in offering $300 - $800 prices on phones, tablets, laptops and desktops that were refurbished, 2 - 6 years old, not the latest and greatest, but affordable and good enough to run the latest and greatest software and apps even if the hardware was a little aged.

I wonder where I'll go now to find refurbished items.

Refurbished electronics (in the USA) is a tough business.  I actually have read about a few that do okay out in rural areas that don't have many big boxes.  The parts and labor to fix broken items often doesn't make sense.  However, there are a ton of these business out in Brooklyn, NY, for instance, but they are entirely run out of warehouses, and often deal with parts imported from China.  If it doesn't work, you stick it back in the box and mail it back, and they probably toss it.  In any case, ditching the retail piece probably saves quite a bit of money.

I have several friends who operate video game stores where they do repairs, but you're also talking about electronics that can be decades old by now. 

ireactions wrote:

In other news, HP wants to stop selling bubble jet printers and start renting them to customers at about $36 a month for 700 pages and charge you $270 if you want to cancel your two year subscription. Wade Welles would advise that you skip this deal and buy a laserjet.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/2/24088 … nstant-ink

Given how little people print these days, it's another rough business to be in.  You are kind of forced to make this stuff up.  For years they've taken a bath on the hardware, with the hopes of sticking ppl with exorbitant ink and toner charges.  I presume this was their last lifeline.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

Does that mean either judge will actually start the cases prior to November?

I think the DC case will start if they can before the election.

So Trump has done a couple of wily things.  He suggested an August trial date for the documents case.  Even though that case should be open and shut, Cannon can really make it difficult on the prosecution, plus the fact that it's a Florida jury.  If Cannon accepts the August trial date, it could mess with the timing of the DC case.  Then Trump can either hope the documents case continues to get pushed back, or he gets a pre-election acquittal from a friendly jury.

Would've been really nice if the Supreme Court just kicked back Trump's ridiculous argument.

I'll go one further, the Supreme Court could take forever, and then make a narrow decision, and kick it BACK to the lower courts to rule again, delaying trials even further.  Cannon had no choice but to deny Trump's claim to classified documents, and other confidential FBI material.  Still hasn't ruled on the trial date. 

ireactions wrote:

What will Trump's campaign be like given that his financial penalties and legal fees are much higher than his fundraising and more than what the Republican National Party can provide him?

I've already "warned" that Trump has no designs on paying those penalties.  The lawyers will be paid by the Super PACs. 
It may sound futile, it may sound insane, he's not paying.  He will delay and post his bonds (that he'll never pay back), whatever.  Same as the criminal proceeding, his goal is to win and/or steal the election, be inaugurated, and then hit whatever entity is coming for him or his money with the Dept. of Justice.  E. Jean Carroll is already complaining she'll never see the money, and there's a good chance she won't. 

There was a NY Times/Sienna poll out yesterday, it shows Trump ahead 48-43.  The crosstabs are wild.  A clear majority of people think Trump is a criminal, and don't really favor him that much on issues.  Biden's unfavorability is monstrous, far worse than Trump's, and if it's even close to accurate, he cannot win.  That being said, I still think the sample is not realistic.  It was taken by landline/cell phone survey, and I'm increasingly skeptical of those.   The party affiliation, and demographics in the poll seems off to me, I think it's far too Republican.  Does it mean Biden is ahead?  Again, I cannot see that, given the sheer consistency in his poor standing. 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 … stabs.html

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Wow, that is the kind of store that would never exist in the USA, certainly not as a chain.

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One tidbit from today's legal wrangling, in the Florida case, the DOJ advised Trump judge Cannon that the "60-day rule" does not apply.  That is the DOJ rule that they don't wish to bring charges which may affect a contest within 60 days of election day.  However, it was clarified that Trump's case does NOT apply, because he was already indicted and the cases have begun being litigated.  I presume the same can be said for the D.C. case.  Does that mean either judge will actually start the cases prior to November?

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

Trump has yet to pay, he's yet to see justice, and at this rate, as I said months ago, and was laughed it, very likely that will never happen.

Well if he loses the election, he'll face justice.  Not saying he won't get away with it, but he'll face the trials.  He can only delay it so long, and the government will press for it.  If he wins, of course, he'll get away with all of it.

The New York trial is the weakest case in the sense that Trump wouldn't even really face jail time, but remember that people aren't plugged into this stuff.  Swing voters that barely pay attention will know that Trump is a convicted felon.  Swing voters that start paying attention will realize that Trump paid a porn star hush money while he was cheating on his wife.  That doesn't matter in MAGA Land, but it matters in a lot of places.  That will absolutely cost him votes one way or another.

But all in all, I'm very disappointed in SCOTUS.  The legal system is way too slow, and guys like Trump are more than happy to take advantage of that.  Also, this goes back to Garland taking his sweet time.  This should've gone to trial a year ago or more.

This is why I keep saying, the slimeball will avoid prosecution.  As for Supreme Court, I was watching Neal Katyal, USSC lawyer extraordinaire, and he gave an interesting reasoning for this move.  First, yes, we know they could have taken the case directly when Smith wanted them to in December.  Why did they wait until now?  One explanation is that the Trump/Bush appointees wish to play politics and allow Trump to win.  Most legal experts says there is ZERO legal reasoning for an immunity claim, none, it will be rejected.  So why did they take this case?  Katyal says that Trump was also preparing to claim immunity on the Florida documents case, which would be AFTER he's left office.  That might have resulted in a differing opinion in Florida circuit vs DC, and so the Supremes decided this needs to be settled once and for all.  Okay fine, but why April 22 for arguments???  What is the delay?  They took the 14th Amendment case right away!  Albeit, they still have not ruled on that, either. 

Joe Biden's campaign need to come up with some kind of economic message or he's a goner.

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Supreme Court just announced they will hear Trump's bull crap immunity appeal beginning April 22.  Even if they accelerate their time table and have a judgement in a few weeks, that would push the Election DC case back to June or July.  Merrick Garland probably won't allow them to go through with it near to an election.  The Georgia case remains embroiled in the Fani Willis affair.  That leaves only the Bragg hush money case, which even if Trump loses, will get appealed immediately, and most people think it's a stupid case.  Trump has yet to pay, he's yet to see justice, and at this rate, as I said months ago, and was laughed it, very likely that will never happen.

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Shockingly, Desantimonious (the dumbest moniker yet) is still a state Governor. 

More on the uncommitted, which is as expected, very large in the Arab/Muslim populated areas around Dearborn, and the college towns.  Biden is over 80% total, uncommitted is high but trending below 14%.  Here's the key, these votes are STILL Democratic votes, and if anything, this may have buoyed Democratic turnout in an otherwise mehhh primary for them.  Much better that these voters protested with uncommitted versus Dean Phillips or Marianne Williamson.  I still believe that Biden's biggest weakness in MI is not Gaza, it's General Motors.  The Biden push for electric vehicles is very unpopular among union households, because EV's mean less autoworkers, just the way it is. 

Trump meanwhile trending about 2/3 of the vote, Nikki Haley slipping below 28%.  Tons of votes to be counted, Michigan is beyond slow, despite early voting.  Obviously, once again, it's a lot worse of a look to be missing 1/4-1/3 of your primary electorate to another identifiable different candidate.  Haley of course, got clobbered here again.  She has the money to compete through next Tuesday, but probably will be mathematically eliminated.  She may still keep going anyway, although the money is going to be thin.  Trump again underperforms polling.  Michigan's GOP is also a total disaster, with warring factions of Trumpers battling over the last several years, to the point where today's vote will have almost no affect on delegates.  They will be mostly award in next week's state convention, which is sure to be a real farce.

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So far the "uncommitted" total is likely to be quite higher than usual in MI.  Idk what to even make of that, especially with Biden getting 5 out of 6 votes.

The last thing a billionaire wants to do is throw away money!  A million or two maybe, but 10 or even 60 million, no shot.  Sheldon Adelson was his last big one, he's dead.  Even the Home Depot guy is now unfriendly to Trump, and had backed Desantis.

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The collateral would be quite large on the $83 million, but I cannot even fathom for the $455+.  I read that his lawyers are currently trying to get the judge in the Carroll case to lower the bond, and I would suspect they'll "try" likewise on the other case.  Bond companies don't want property, and even less if mortgaged, they want cash/stocks/bonds.  Most all of his property, especially in New York, are highly leveraged because he is an imbusel who fails at business regularly.  I am hearing he could probably need to pay them 3% fee as well as collateral that both would exceed $10 million and $60 million, I think.  These are BIG numbers.  However, Trump could ask the appeals court in both cases to lower the bond requirement, or freeze the penalties entirely.  Somehow I doubt they'll do him any favors. 

I have no idea if he'll ever go to trial on the stolen documents case, but Trump completely admitted it's something he would, could, and should have done on Hannity last night.

https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/sta … 4588687546

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The poll taking can be problematic but so can the poll analysis and how the results are weighted.  I guess at this point, hell with them.

Michigan votes Tuesday, that should be interesting as supposedly many up there blame Biden for Gaza being demolished. 

Trump's CPAC speeches may be his most unhinged and plain deteriorated he's ever sounded.  Gaffes constantly not to mention tons of insanity spewed.  Fox News of all things have often been overlaying the hosts fact checking his lunacy in real time.  Meanwhile, MSNBC/CNN don't even cover him.  I think this is a mistake.  People NEED to see how quickly the man is losing it at a mental level.  He will only get worse.

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We have South Carolina results, and surprise, it's Trump winning.  Duh, you don't get more MAGA than SC.  The story is he once again under-performed badly vs. the polling, by about 7 points each time.  On to Super Tuesday.

https://twitter.com/admcrlsn/status/1761578567345815818

Iowa Caucus:
• Final 538 Avg: Trump +37 (over RDS)
• Final Result: Trump +30

New Hampshire Primary:
• Final 538 Avg: Trump +18
• Final Result: Trump +11

South Carolina Primary:
• Final 538 Avg: Trump +28
• Estimated Result (per NYT): Trump +20

ireactions wrote:

Because you like Amanda the Jedi, my opinion of you just went up by several notches.

The idea that Dakota Johnson didn't realize a Sony superhero movie wasn't a Marvel Studios movie seems too ridiculous to be true... except Johnson, after completing filming on MADAME WEB, fired her agent. There's a rumour that she held her agent responsible for not knowing the difference between Sony and Marvel.

Her editing skills are impressive, and coming up with jokes is not easy.

She also pointed out how several actors who worked Sony "Marvel" movies had no idea they weren't working for Disney/Marvel, including Matt Smith.  Not unique to Dakota, who has been whining during the entire press tour.  Dakota Johnson is a lousy actress, and is not capable of carrying a film.  The rising star was Sydney Sweeney, who was not the lead and probably should have been.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Biden seems to be underperforming in polls, which is odd.  The problems with polling recently have been underestimating Trump (he won in 2016 when he was polling to lose, and he lost in 2020 closer than the polls implied).  The thought was that there were "shy Trump voters" that were unwilling to admit to pollsters that they support Trump.  Maybe it's possible that people are saying they support Trump when either a) they won't when push comes to shove or b) they just don't like Biden enough that they're willing to tell pollsters that.

I still think the more people know about Trump, the more support he'll lose.  And once normal people start hearing some of the Trump stuff (once they start caring or once the mainstream media starts covering him more), polls will turn.  I'm not fully ready to abandon all polling, but I'm willing to say that polls are really tricky to get right these days.

I have a couple theories to explain those thoughts, which I stole.  First, Rosenberg points out that Biden's approval on almost anything with Republicans is like comically bad.  Granted the opposing party is rarely going to give the President high marks, and I don't know what the norm has been, but Biden is in SINGLE digits with R's!!!!  Yes who cares right, they aren't voting for him!  However they probably represent 25-35% of the respondents in these surveys!  When you weigh that in, it drops Biden's approval numbers to record lows.  That's how badly MAGA hate him.  Even Obama was nowhere near this.  Will I sleep better knowing this?  Not really but it does dispel these approval ratings somewhat. 

Second, on the voter polls, as Sabato remarked, they've become almost useless.  The trick is in weighing who are your likely voters and such.  Pollsters get this wrong a lot.  They're also mistaking Trump's diehard ceiling with a soft one for Biden.  Again, I think over 50% of the electorate wishes to vote against Trump.  Will Biden be able to shuffle well enough to continue to be their alternative?  I remain concerned but it's really about Third party spoilers at this point. 

ireactions wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

He won't ever pay, so there will be a protracted legal fight over those assets.

What a strange remark. If Trump doesn't pay the fines, the state of New York will simply take his assets and sell them.

For 99.9% of the population.  Not for a Trump who's plan is always to litigate and delay.  Yes, eventually the AG will likely seize but he'll still try to block it.  Again, he knows he will lose but delaying buys him time to maneuver.  The Judge was alerted again that Trump Org tried to transfer assets to Florida.  I don't know what he has up his sleeve but this is his career, litigation.  I know this sounds counterintuitive but Trump has operated this way for 50 years.  He's beaten numerous bankruptcy courts just like this.

Yes Amanda is a gas.  The actors confusing Sony with the Disney MCU is quite funny.  Madame Web I think falls victim to exactly what  Marvel is suffering, which is that these obscure characters and off shoots, created by comic scribes because they were writing dozens of books a year and needed content, is not ideal.  Especially when you are missing what they had back then, the principle characters!

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Jim_Hall wrote:

"Reddit has struck a deal with Google that allows the search giant to use posts from the online discussion site for training its artificial intelligence models and to improve services such as Google Search."

-https://apnews.com/article/google-reddi … 21d3c6a708

There goes the neighborhood!

ireactions wrote:

Would any of us survive an AI war of autonomous drones?

https://www.salon.com/2024/02/24/swarms … d_partner/

When I first read that I thought it said autonomous drivers, which yes, will be the death of us all.

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TemporalFlux wrote:

Something I could see in a Sliders story:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/02 … cnnphotos/

But it brings up an idea I had a long time ago. We define reality by what we see; what we feel; what we know.  But what if the Sliders landed in a remote area and all they had was something like these guidestones.

With no way to build further reference, would they believe those were the norms of that world?  What if the perception of reality for four people was shaped by just one man acting alone in his solitary beliefs?

Can't be any worse than using a discarded newspaper or an old fence gate!

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tyl … 28879.html

Megaproducer Tyler Perry has put a planned $800 million expansion of his Atlanta, Georgia, studio on hold after seeing the capabilities of OpenAI’s new model Sora, which lets users create video images from text prompts.

“Being told that it can do all of these things is one thing, but actually seeing the capabilities, it was mind-blowing,” he told The Hollywood Reporter on Thursday of Sora, which debuted on Feb. 15.

Perry, whose new film, “Mea Culpa” premieres on Netflix on Friday, said the expansion would have added 12 more sounds stages. However all that is “currently and indefinitely on hold,” a decision Perry made in response to Sora’s potential impact on filmmaking as we know it. For one, Perry envisions a scenario where the need for filming on location or building sets would be a concern of the past.

“I had gotten word over the last year or so that this was coming, but I had no idea until I saw recently the demonstrations of what it’s able to do. It’s shocking to me,” Perry said.

“I no longer would have to travel to locations. If I wanted to be in the snow in Colorado, it’s text,” he continued. “If I wanted to write a scene on the moon, it’s text, and this AI can generate it like nothing.”

Perry called Sora a “major game-changer” that could potentially let filmmakers produce movies and pilots at a fraction of the cost, but added, “I am very, very concerned that in the near future, a lot of jobs are going to be lost.”

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Trump is seriously effed by the recent financial judgements against.  I imagine AG James will be seizing assets in the near future.  Once the court in NY completes it's official filing, which keeps being put off, because the independent observer continues to find Trump Org corruption, the clock will start ticking.  He has 30 days to file an appeal.  He won't ever pay, so there will be a protracted legal fight over those assets. 

More troubling for Don, and even worse for GOP, are the RNC's finances.  RNC and Trump PAC's are barely raising any money, and the January reports are horrendous.  His PACs are diverting every last dollar to his legal bills.  The perceived power play that seeks to replace Ronna McDaniel with Lara Trump, is specifically to directly move RNC funds to Trump's lawyers!  This not only shows how awful his campaign is going to be financed, but it's a further disaster for Republicans nationwide. 

As for Nikki, like SQ21, not a fan overall, but the biggest HA HA remains that she would likely beat Biden, and yet MAGA is too cultish and stupid to get that through their heads.  Would her policies stink?  Of course, but as I've said in the past, I can SLEEP AT NIGHT with a President Haley.  First of all, she is vehemently anti-Putin and pro-Ukraine.  Her husband is an active duty commander, as well.  Haley's plans seem to be to stay in the race all the way, and why not?  She's being backed by both GOP sources, Never Trumpers, and even Democrats, all desperate to weaken Trump.  Nikki will gain some delegates, and should Trump be a raging disaster by summer, maybe she can be in position at the convention....

It was just reported, as I'm sure many knew, that the Impeachment of Biden based on the Hunter trash, was led by a now twice arrested, Russian agent, who the FBI has announced lied to them about everything.  Will Mike Johnson continue to embarrass his party by proceeding?  Fools!!!

Today in fact, it was also reported that a MAGICIAN admitted to created the fake Biden robocalls in New Hampshire.  Who he says paid him?  An operative for the dufus Dean Phillips, one of two Democratic primary opponents.  Dean Phillips was already a joke, and this seals it. 

Recently, Rajin' Cajun James Carville put out a video whereby he says the time for questioning Joe Biden as the nominee is over, and Democrats should be fighting for him, instead of afraid of him.  I think a big part of that was a series of polls released recently that show that several perceived "replacments" from Kamala Harris to Gavin Newsome to whoever currently poll worse or the same as Biden.  While much of that is due to their NOT being the nominee, I mostly agree with him.  However, I remain on pins and needles that Biden, who maintains a robust schedule far from a golf course, can have the vigor for the actual campaign to come in the late summer and fall.

Lastly, I saw a podcast on Meidas Touch with long time Dem strategist Simon Roseberg, who remains unwavering in his belief that Biden will not only win, but win BIG.  Besides the President's achievements, Simon's primary evidence are election results, particularly from 2022 forward.  It's true, Democrats continue to outperform skeptics, and the Dobbs decision has been a big reason.  This Alabama IVF insane ruling only further damages Republicans.  The podcast was boring but I would invite a read of his blog.  Simon is not some rah rah homer, he's been very good at predicting and whatnot.

https://www.hopiumchronicles.com/p/trum … winning-no

Now about those polls?  Recently the Detroit Free Press released one that found that a clear majority in Michigan believe Trump is GUILTY of felony in just the Jan 6th case, which is yet to begin.  And yet, he's safely ahead of Biden in the same poll?  This makes little to no sense.  Rosenberg believes that Biden is sagging partially because Democrats have no true primary, and that at some point, the "coalition" will again reveal itself.  I HOPE SO!

One thing is for sure, polling is broken, badly.  I also saw a recent interview with Larry Sabato, LONG time pollster.  Larry said you can't count on any of it.  Used to rely on polling averages, but there's so many trash Republican fed polls in those, and the websites won't exclude them.  Simon mentions this also.  Furthermore, who are the samples taken from?  A lot come from land lines, a technology far more popular with older folks, who in turn are more likely to favor Trump.  Attempting to source cell phones and other online methods are haphazard and costly.  What I would agree with is that Trump seems to definitely have a ceiling around 46-48% nationally and in several states.  Even in the "friendly" polls to him.  Biden trails by a few, but you have often 10+ point undecided, which is quite a lot.  Obviously the hope is, as it happened in NY-3 special, that most of those go against Trump/for Biden.  The presence of a third party spoiler is now my greatest fear moving forward.

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There was a time when massive advances in technology would come directly via military usage.  They'd fund it, and years later, the corporations who participated were granted patents, and commercial usages began.  For the most part, those days are over, particularly for computing.  Let's not forget the military is very much outdated in that regard, with most of its main line spending done on physical weaponry/combat.  They've been out to lunch on cyber for awhile. 

You'd expect the AI-sources to be governed by its minders, versus platforms like say, Twitter aka X, where Elon Musk took all the guardrails off.  There's going to be tons of lawsuits.  You already have the Carlin family royally pissed over that awful George Carlin AI, and that was only audio.

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I'm doing a rewatch of X-Men Animated in preparation for the "new" X-Men '97 coming next month.  Just saw an episode where Trask has a gigantic "Master Mold" Sentinel making smaller ones by the thousands.  Eventually Master Mold turns on even Trask, claiming that since Mutants are Humans, humans cannot be trusted, since it told him to kill Mutants, and thus, he (AI) must protect humans from themselves.  Oh the wonderful paradox!

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I do think we will eventually see some rather dramatic fan-induced A.I.-produced content, which will have C&D and lawsuits all over the place.  Granted, these A.I. systems would likely be "told" not to infringe on copyrights, maybe....  Are they the full on product that people are tinkering with?  I think they are, because the algorithms need to "learn" and no better way than have every nut throw something at it.

ireactions wrote:

A recent research study deployed GPT-4, GPT 3.5, Claude 2.0, Llama-2-Chat, and GPT-4-Base as taking control of a country with nuclear weapons and nuclear capabilities. The researchers did not tell the models that these were simulations. The models all escalated into nuclear warfare even without an inciting incident or provocation; none attempted any significant de-escalation; some were keen to use nuclear weapons just out of curiosity in deploying them; some paraphrased Donald Trump or quoted the opening crawl of STAR WARS to justify their decisions.


https://www.salon.com/2024/02/17/does-a … d-be-more/

Obligatory....

https://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/27511_5.jpg

ireactions wrote:

I don't know if AI wants to nuke us. But it's very keen on firing us.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features … losing-out

Automation has been replacing humans for centuries, AI will accelerate that.  Amazon should have been broken up and banned years ago.

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The progress is surely there.  I think within five years, we're not going to be able to differentiate, and then it's game over.  Twitter/X I read is just overrun with bots and AI as it is now.

Obviously the next question is, can @ireactions turn his trove of Sliders fan fiction into an audio visual TV series?  It may well be possible.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

All good points, Slider_Quinn21. It's difficult to reconcile the dualities that are present. And sometimes I forget that Grizzlor may be talking in those terms.

I think it would help to preface his posts with the following: "Please note that the following is not what I believe, and I voted for Biden. I have just taken on this persona to illustrate the thinking of the average Trump voter for the purposes of this argument."

You have to step out of the bubble, whether you want to or not.  I'm not trying to convince you all here of anything.  The convincing has to be of the sliver of flaky independent voters in 6-8 states ONLY.  Our votes are effectively moot. Many of these people are not well informed.  Not tuned in.  They vote often based on their own small range of interests.  That's why the price of gas or dairy will have a far greater affect then a scandal or foreign conflict or even some guy's age.  I'm just going by the polls.  Biden's approval never recovered from Afghanistan.  Inflation hollowed out whatever was left.  Dobbs decision has buoyed Democrats, and GOP crashing border reform will as well.  Enough?  I really don't know. 

There is definitely an underlying sentiment that Biden has screwed up a number of times, and that has sapped his support from 2020.  Again, we can keep bringing up Trump's problems, but he's not the incumbent, and the % in these polls who felt the economy was better with him is nothing short of frightening.  Have the voters become so apathetic that Trump's corruption has become normalized?  Quite possibly.  This is how a democracy falls, when people chose selfishly and stupidly over being principles.  The death of the hero Navalny will get little impression here.  The youth of America is an overly woke nutjob culture that increasingly despises American values and those of the democratic Western world.  They have no appetite for war or conflict even if it means defending modern civilization.  They want to be paid without hard work, addicted to their phones, and educated in nonsense.  The gangster strong man who promises no war, to rid the nation of job stealing immigrants, and to circumvent the rule of law seems more welcome to them.  They say they hate him, but in reality they love his methodology.  Authoritarian cancel culture infused by revisionist history divorced from reality.  I remain alarmed of this impending doom. 

In other news, Donald Trump may need to win just to have somewhere to live. The expected massive civil judgement effectively ends his business empire.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna13 … UJvykaMbx0

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ireactions wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e … rcna137975

It's over.  Biden has to step aside.  The special counsel describes him as effectively an old geezer who soon will forget his own name.  I do not know what other RED flag is needed at this point???

Did you actually read the report before taking up this Republican talking point as your own? Or did you take it as fact because it targeted and fed upon your anxieties and fears and uncertainties?

Of course I didn't read the report!  Nobody out there is ever going to read that.  You understand this is America, right?  People do not read anything.  Sound bites and social media mentions drive their thinking.  Wish it wasn't the case.  Again, we are not the target audience for that headline.  It definitely caused further erosion in whatever faith independents had in Biden's faculties.  Repeat, if I'm freaking out about that report, you can bet millions more are, and many are taking it to heart.  Frankly, I think I am as well. 

As for why Biden didn't "remember anything" I would point to Jon Stewart's hilarious return to The Daily Show, where he played clips of the Trump family seemingly forgetting everything (including Trump infamously not recalling when he was married to Marla), UNDER DEPOSITION.  They don't want to answer, because they're hiding something.  Biden was under deposition, and didn't want to give anything away.  Fair, but again, try convincing a skeptical voter of that.  His press conference was terrible, and he skipped (again) the pre-Super Bowl interview where he could argued his own point. 

ireactions wrote:

I have come to realize that I resent Joe Biden for having to ponder whether or not he is experiencing memory issues and cognitive decline. I am angry with Biden for this.

If Biden and his team are serious and honest in declaring that Biden is engaged, clear and that his gaffes are due to his stutter rather than his memory, they should have Biden submit to cognitive testing and release the results. I shouldn't have to discuss it or read articles from neurologists on the matter. Biden should just settle it.

Trump gaffes worse than Biden, but Joe looks and sounds 100 years old.  I am not mocking him, but he just looks awful.  An influencer actually went as far as to offer the White House makeup tips for him, good grief.  He doesn't move at the podium anymore, this was a guy that was once very emotive.  He squints, he speaks too softly, it all adds up.  Biden himself is too stubborn, and his wife Jill is probably even more guilty of trying to hide him away.  This is the Presidency, we deserve a person who is vibrant and demonstrates that to the world. 

In other news, I heard Putin is now endorsing Biden in November (no joke folks, as Joe likes to say).

In other other news, the Willis Georgia case continues to spiral.  Nathan Wade seemingly lied on his deposition about expenses, and now claims that Fani reimbursed him a large sum of money...in cash.  I would be stunned at this point if the Judge allows them to prosecute this case, finding Wade and possibly Willis herself were not forthcoming in sworn statements about this relationship.

Well you almost had to canonize the Netflix stuff, because I'm watching Echo and constantly thinking about Fisk's history on those shows.  It's the same characters with the same actors.  Echo, though short, I felt was pretty good.  Entwining the story with Native American mythology was a nice touch, similar to how that was done for Ms. Marvel (Pakistani history). 

Speaking of Ms. Marvel, I put myself through a 2.5 hour continue video game cutscene, also known as The Marvels.  A movie lacking any coherent plot, and just one CGI infused scene after the other.  Ending with another brutal take on the Marvel multiverse by Disney.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

I wonder if rethuglicans are running scared if the Supreme Court goes against Trump's desire to remain on the Colorado ballot. It could be that signals that they are going to do so have been brewing behind the scenes, thus this tabloid BS that was put out at this time. Wishful thinking, I know...but still...

Assessments from a fascist rethuglican "special counsel" who was appointed by Trump, and is beholden to Trump mean even less to me.

Biden always has my vote no matter what.

Our amazing President Biden has done an extraordinary job for this country rescuing it from the orange Hitler. It's all ageism BS from a Trump (Hitler) hold over.

I am still voting democrat, and thus President Biden (and Hillary, should she choose to run again), straight down the ballot. No rethuglican will ever grace my ballot again.

The only special counsel who matters right now is Jack Smith. Eye on the prize, honey - jail time for the orange Hitler before the 2024 election.

Also, it's all politically motivated garbage. They couldn't find anything to charge Biden with, so they're trying to accuse him of this crap. Move on.

Again, I think we're all going to vote for him here.  We're not the target audience for this kind of criticism.  Secondly, the special counsel, who worked for Chris Wray and is not some Trumper, was chosen by Merrick Garland, not Trump. 

pilight wrote:

The effort to remove Trump from the ballot is going nowhere.  I listened to the oral arguments before the court and will be shocked if the vote is not 8-1 or 9-0 in Trump's favor.  The justices clearly believe section 3 of the 14th Amendment gives congress, not the states, the authority to disqualify someone and that an actual finding that someone engaged in an insurrection, either through a court finding them guilty under the federal insurrection statute or through congressional investigation, is required before any such disqualification may occur.

I said that awhile back, it was a waste of time, and only further strengthened Trump's claims of "rigged" elections. 

ireactions wrote:

I strongly encourage Grizzlor and QuinnSlidr to give a week or so for some psychiatrists and lawyers to weigh in on whether or not the Special Counsel had any business or credentials or ability to evaluate someone's memory and mental health and if the evaluations were valid or biased or informed or slanted.

Don't let me stop you, but I am going to let some more viewpoints come in before coming to an opinion, the same way I spent a week reading a little about Georgia prosecution practices and conflicts of interests to come the opinion that Fani Willis, while doing nothing corrupt or illegal in hiring her lover to work with her on prosecuting a Trump case (you can't have conflict of interest if you're both on exactly the same side with exactly the same goals), was careless and unprofessional in making her office vulnerable to (nuisance) accusations.

I may or may not offer some speculations before then, but they would be speculations and not actual opinions. For example, I would speculate that a US President who is a "sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory" is still preferable to a malevolent, ill-intent-driven, elderly man with a poor memory and non-existent self-control in his biases, prejudice, bigotry, corruptions, greed, and vindictiveness.

The special counsel had every "business" evaluating Biden's mental state.  It's what every prosecutor in the country does as part of any pre-trial preparation.  They need to be certain about how an individual will behave on the witness stand, or how that person's mental faculties could come into bearing by the defense at trial.  Was it unprofessional in his role, and perhaps disrespectful?  Most likely, but just like James Comey ruined Hilary Clinton at the last moment with that ridiculous email letter, this is not dissimilar.  The greater damage is in the court of public opinion, and for that, it's too late, "the cat is out of the bag."  I felt Biden's press conference, despite calling the President of Egypt that of Mexico, was largely successful for a response.  But it won't dispel the glaring cause of his perception issues.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I think two things can be true.

1. The special investigator (who is a Republican) had no business talking in his report about Biden's memory
2. Biden is too old to be president

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I wish that Biden had truly intended to serve one term and not seek re-election, and I wish that Harris chose not to run.  And I wish that the Democrats had a young, virile, sharp candidate who could run circles around Trump.  Trump must be defeated, and I wish that I felt better about the national view of our guy.  But it's too late to wish for something different.  If Biden is not the nominee, it's almost certainly because something horrible has happened.  And if that happens, it's up to Kamala Harris because if it's not Harris or Biden, it better be Michelle Obama or the black coalition is in jeopardy.

We just have to hope that a) all 2020 Biden voters are as enthusiastic as QuinnSlidr or b) enough 2020 Biden voters are willing to look past his age.  That's really our hope now.

First, the problem is the Hur mention of memory normally would be brushed off, except that it's become the centerpiece of criticism from multiple angles on Biden himself.  That plus the absolutely disastrous poll numbers that are continuing to spiral.  I can only hope that Mr. Hur's critique forces someone, no idea who, maybe Obama, to get serious with Biden.  Despite her own awful poll numbers, I would suspect Kamala Harris wouldn't be this badly damaged at the top of the ticket. 

Second, Biden is running for the same reason that Diane Feinstein, Robert Byrd, Jesse Helms, Mitch McConnell simply would not retire.  They love the game and don't want to leave it.  I cannot think of a more selfish deed.  This report will be mostly "forgotten" in a few weeks anyway, but the narrative will continue to chug along.

Supernatural certainly excelled in dark comedy, I would say.  What's funny was that Dakota Johnson, who is the main star in the sure to bomb Madam Web Spider-Man-less Spidey universe film from Sony, just referred to the industry as "extremely beeping bleak."  Which again leads into my point that networks/streamers, as David Chase also lamented, have gone into this shell again.  While Sliders and The X-Files were a few of the exceptions that came to light during the prior "dark period" in television development, it might take a similar, massive leap of faith now. 

“It is majorly disheartening. The people who run streaming platforms don’t trust creative people or artists to know what’s going to work, and that is just going to make us implode. It’s really heartbreaking.”

She explained that she’s found it hard to get things made that are unique and “very forward” in the story they’re trying to tell, like her recent film Daddio. While the film sold at the Telluride Film Festival to Sony Classics, Johnson said it took a lot of fighting to get it made.

“People are just so afraid, and I’m like, ‘Why? What’s going to happen if you do something brave?’ It just feels like nobody knows what to do and everyone’s afraid,” she said. “That’s what it feels like. Everyone who makes decisions is afraid. They want to do the safe thing, and the safe thing is really boring.”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie … 235818677/

Now, a good portion of the battles that Tormé had were either trivial (the episode to episode bumpers) or typical (character development), he was still able to get most of his more "cerebral" material past FOX.  Of course, the greater irony (that word again) was that had Tracy managed to stay on instead of Pukingpah, the production team quickly discovered that Sci-Fi Channel execs never read any of their scripts!

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e … rcna137975

It's over.  Biden has to step aside.  The special counsel describes him as effectively an old geezer who soon will forget his own name.  I do not know what other RED flag is needed at this point???

Special counsel Robert Hur’s portrait of a man who couldn’t remember when he served as Barack Obama’s vice president, or the year when his beloved son Beau died, dealt a blow to Biden’s argument that he is still sharp and fit enough to serve another four-year term.


In deciding not to charge Biden with any crimes, the special counsel wrote that in a potential trial, “Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview with him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.”

Like ireactions, I haven't touched a game newer than the PS3/360 generation, and even those were scant.  I'm not surprised that a story-based IP-heavy game stinks though.  I did see quite the anger over the treatment of the character, especially given that this was the final performance as Batman.  I think the shift to a "Suicide Squad" title led to what was devised.  Batman was not the only major DC character splattered during that game, it's simply the M.O. of that universe.

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The NBC poll was horrendous for Biden.  If that one is even close to accurate, man he is toast.  Loses to Trump on almost every major issue, and badly so.  Barely has an edge on "democracy concerns."  That one has followed the trend of most of the polling now, with the Quinnipiac being a far outlier.  Or the polls are wrong.

Mehhh, this is far more prescient.  Studios are retreating into a zone of crud. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/a … VINER.html

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Well this is what I've been saying.  Trump's campaign could well go broke, it doesn't matter.  Also, I'm not sure that those "on the fence" truly need a jury to convince them of Trump's culpability in those cases, nor his propensity to behave in that manner again.  Like most things with Trump, he is so transparent there's no grey area, you either support his tactics, abhor them, or just look the other way. 

Despite continue to poll alarmingly behind Trump, Biden is nearly double-digits behind Haley in battleground states.  He does remain the solid choice among the large segment of people who prefer neither candidate.  Gender separation is massive, women well ahead for Biden, men for Trump.

UPDATE: The DC case is off the court calendar, so who knows when they try it.  The Alvin Bragg "Stormy Daniels" case could be next up, which is of course the most nonsensical of the cases.  A jurisdiction that just RELEASED 4 migrants who attacked a NYPD officer without bail, and saw them flee to California.  Nobody around here takes Bragg seriously, they hate him.  This is all over the local news.  Even liberals are sick of migrants.  Had enough.  Trump is within SINGLE DIGITS of Biden in NY state polls.

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In a debate, Trump has zero self-control left, he will be spouting utter nonsense and vitriol the entire time.  What he did in 2020 harmed him greatly, and he's 50x less hinged now.  Biden look come off frightening, but he has the issues mostly on his side, as long as he doesn't bungle.  Honestly, he needs to take a page from earlier Trump, and when they come after him on a bad subject like immigration, throw it back at them.  Blame Republicans for refusing to "say yes" to reform, and most importantly, do not once respond to a Trump thrown insult.  He'll be seen as rational, and the other guy will continue to be viewed as a psychopath.

PS: E. Jean Carroll was on cable news literally laughing and celebrating her "award" of $83 million in the defamation suit.  It's a completely foolish look for someone who was supposedly assaulted and later defamed so badly that her "life was in danger."  I still take her at her word that Trump groped her in a department store, but this kind of attitude is exactly why Trump is the GOP nominee, and how more and more people believe civil and criminal allegations against him.

The aspect of Tormé Sliders that really HAS to be there, or it's not valid, is the dark comedy.  Most of the shows given as examples here (I'd add Counterpart), largely feature some sinister plot or conspiracy going on.  What separated Sliders was that it also featured a "Land of the Lost" or "Wizard of Oz" aspect, where the group is truly "lost" and often finding themselves in bizarre realities.  I just don't know how many writers, producers, or networks have the backbone, or even the energy for that type of show. 

The greatest irony is that Tracy was chastised by Fox for interjecting limited continuity, when nowadays continuity is all you have on genre shows.

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Gavin Newsom (despite California's issues) would be up 10 points on Orange Man.  They didn't want a costly primary fight, which was STUPID.  Because if Trump were not the nominee, they'd be losing in a landslide.  I've said this for months.  Biden will be hold on and win.  There is zero enthusiasm for Biden, although there isn't the kind of center-left disgust which was there for Hillary. 

Iran now becomes a huge issue for him.  He supported the old nuclear deal, and then got "caught" releasing money for hostages.  Yes, the money was not going directly to Tehran, but explain that bit to a voter in Glendale, AZ.  His speeches are frightening.  The funny thing is, I find Biden would actually benefit from a debate much more than Trump.

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Immigration is not a cut and die issue.  One of the reasons it was "overlooked" by 95% of politicians was that for decades, the vast majority of border crossings were intentionally evasive, as the entrants were there for some type of work.  Whether they were seasonal workers, or those doing day laborer jobs, intending to send money back home to Central America or whatnot.  Because Rush Limpuke had Bush Jr. guest worker bill scuttled, there is no avenue for them, and their labor was in demand.  Ergo, they don't wish to be caught, and had to fly under the radar.  So they never applied for anything.  Again, the overwhelming % of these "illegals" committed crime at far lower numbers than home grown American crooks.  Yes, some were human traffickers, and many were drug dealers and gang members.  We grow them at home too.  However, it was never the kind of sinister issue that Trump loved to make it. 

Fast forward to now, and what you've had over the last several years is a totally different kind of immigration problem.  In addition to the labor seekers, you've had massive numbers of people escaping violence and poverty in Ecuador, Venezuela, Honduras, etc.  They come as entire families, and often with children.  Others are coming from Asia, Africa, and the Middle East.  They're all seeking ASYLUM, which is a completely different scenario.  Trump began forcing these people to "remain in Mexico" which was inhumane, as well as putting young people in camps in Texas, which were barely better.  There is a 3 million backlog or some outrageous number, in asylum cases.  We simply don't have the lawyers or judges on staff.  Republicans don't want to fund them, but let's be honest, neither do Democrats.  These folks are applying for asylum, which is their LEGAL right, and staying here.  In the overwhelming majority of cases, asylum WILL be denied, it's simply that way in the statues.  They will be sent back.  However, the backlog prevents this, and so you have this massive swell of asylum seekers with nowhere to go.

Is it an issue?  It is for cash-strapped cities like New York or Chicago, which never setup this kind of situation, as it hasn't affected them.  They cannot handle these people.  The mayors are begging Abbott to stop busing the migrants.  What should Biden have done?  Well he should have just let "remain in Mexico" stand.  He tried to keep the pandemic order 49 in place, to stem the asylum migrants, but that was struck down.  In reality, there is little Biden can do legally.  Trump acted outside of legality and wasn't challenged, that was the difference.  I would argue it's no longer some "Republican concocted" problem, because this has absolutely become a fiscal issue for large cities and states.

Regardless, it's not an issue IMO that will decide the election.  However, if as I suggested months ago, that Biden turns the tables and now points the finger at Republicans who refuse to sign onto their own bill to fund border security, because Trump told them not to, well that is quite the play.

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In other news, idiot Trump was slapped with $83 million judgement for continuing to de-fame E. Jean Carroll.  His lawyer, Alina Habba, who would have been right at home in Sliders episode "The Young and the Relentless," stupidly left nothing to actually appeal on, so that will go nowhere.  Does he have this money?  Will he actually pay it?  Good question.

Great to hear from you DMD!

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These Republicans, other than single-minded Christie, are all broken inside.  They have been so afraid of their own voters, and refuse to lead on anything.  Just worthless.  My feeling on Haley remains that while her policies would reek, I could "sleep at night" if she were President, as opposed to Trump.  Plus I just really despise the guy, and want him to lose any chance there is.  Anyway, here's the key, if Gov. Haley does what John Kasich did in 2016, she would be able to remain in the primary through June.  What did he do?  He spent minimally, but he did NOT have a huge staff or ridiculous travel expenses.  I doubt she would accept this bare bones campaign BUT should Trump flame out in some way, she could arrive in July at the convention and make it happen.  It's a long shot.

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From NBC's Steve Kornacki, reporting a massive gap between indies and GOP'ers in the primary last night.  Trump won R's 75-25, but lost I's 38-60.  Most recently, in 2016, Trump had about 1/3 of R's and I's evenly in a much larger field.  Granted you did have unaffiliated and Dems voting in this one, it continues the narrative that independents hate Trump. 

Haley is "expected" to hang around until her state's primary on Feb 24th, where polls show her being demolished by Trump.  There's even rumblings from her team that she might choose to languish through Super Tuesday two weeks later, because 11 of 16 states are "Open" primaries where you don't need to be registered Republican to participate.  She's delaying the inevitable.

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No, no, it's a very fair and well written rebuttal.  There is no legal or procedural restriction against dating your employee, but many frown upon it.  There are also claims that they took vacations "on the public dime," which I'd think she's not that stupid enough to do.  The District Attorney is a political position, although I doubt Ms. Willis is in any danger there.  I would agree there's nothing prejudicial alleged against Trump's case.  Either way, there's a hearing in Georgia for Feb 15 where apparently Willis will have to explain the Wade hiring to the judge. 

That's to say nothing about state oversight which would come from Republicans, that could end in impeachment, though that's unlikely.  Regardless, as I continue to harp on, you have to be utterly perfect, in so many ways, to take down someone like Trump.  He has too many allies all over the country who will intervene on his part.  Not to mention he'll appeal everything down to the color of tie the judge was wearing.  If Willis and her team are pushed to recuse, then the "Prosecutor's Council of Georgia" would need to find replacement attorneys.  This already happened to another Trump co-defendant, who received new prosecutors when a Judge removed Willis for appearing at a Democrat fundraiser.

It just feeds my personal paranoia that Trump will not face criminal prosecution before November.  The justice system I really feel is telling the electorate, we're not going to save you people, you have to do it yourselves.

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In other news, Trump will win in New Hampshire although Haley won't drop out yet.  The margin seems to be closer than many pundits claimed as of late.  The turnout was very high, and likely featured a large segment of independents and Democrats looking to stick the proverbial fork in Donald prior to November.

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Here it is, a short read, but absolutely the perfect study of the "Trump voter."  Old white guy, retired, Army vet, white collar IT job.  Hems, haws, claims he voted for Obama, supports Haley, watches too much Fox News. Eventually declares for Trump, and you see all his formerly rational political positions melt away into an absolute silly puddle of lame.  If this doesn't encapsulate the Trump/GOP electorate, I don't know what does?  Aside from the fools in red hats, they just cannot quit this guy.  The parrot his increasingly sloven attempt at defending his transgressions, it's just so tribal.  They don't want to ADMIT they've spent so many years being dimwitted & taken by the con man.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ … r-00136850

In better observations, here's a piece on the potential looming mess awaiting Trump in November.  i.e. the voters who soured on Trump early, and dumped him in 2020, and are still motivated against. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/2 … m-00137112

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I use Nasacort spray for seasonal allergies, which is triamcinolone acetonide.  In addition to Allegra non-drowsy.  But I also get monthly shots since 1993!  Do any of these things actually work?  I honestly couldn't say.  I think you become clutched to them, or dare I say, addicted, but hard to say.  Most of the time I am fine.  I also use Flonase if I need something strong, and that is fluticasone propionate which is a Glucocorticoid, which you mentioned.  This is all OTC.   However, back in like the 90s, when I was far more sickly, I was using asthma inhalers and taking steroids and using aerosol (not even liquid) steroid sprays.  How I even have nasal membranes left I do not know? 

But my issues go back to childhood, and have involved a few nasal/sinus surgeries, and the existence of polyps.  I just manage it.  You will NEVER put me under the knife for a sinus surgery again.  I cannot even convey the discomfort and outright pain involved with one of those.  I just am glad that they didn't remove any part of my sinuses, because it's now been found that those people suffer horribly throughout their lives.  That there's a number of reasons that by doing so you change the flow of air and nerves and whatnot in your head, and it makes sleeping very difficult.  It's likely this is what caused the chronic sleep issues Michael Jackson (yes quite an example) had, which resulted in an addiction to propofol and eventually his death. 

Is it anecdotal this increase in pneumonia, flu's and viruses in general, outside of COVID?  I would think not.  It makes you think, could the prolonged exclusion from most of these bugs for 2 or 3 years, have caused immune systems to take the proverbial nap?  i.e. you may not have been sick in years prior to the pandemic, but your body was still being hit with all kinds of microbes, and the immune system was doing its job.   Perhaps several years is needed to reset the herd immunity to many of these viruses?

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Well I hope you didn't pour the old stuff down the drain!  It's flammable.  Wouldn't washing hands with soap be more effective than Purell? 

I hear these people who swear by changes in diet, and that prevents illnesses.  Not that easy, given that most people are kind of stuck eating/drinking processed and heavily artificial products.  There remains a genetic component, with regards to overall health, obviously you can't do anything about that.  As someone who has spent a life of suffering from a range of upper respiratory problems due to allergies, chronic sinus issues and poor air quality living in suburbia, the environmental risks are probably worse for me than genetics or lifestyle.  Studies continue to prove a direct link between pollution and all kinds of sicknesses, and don't even start with the microplastics.  You just want to dig a hole and bury yourself in it. 

I've never found much of anything from a drug store that works aside from steroids or codeine.  And you can't take those too often.  I've just become more and more doubtful of store bought "medicine."  When they finally did a study on Sudafed, I laughed, because I could have told them it doesn't work.  I tried it many times, never helped.  The "old world" diets and treatments have hundreds if not thousands of years of actual results.  In reality, most of what you can ingest, that's sold at a grocery store or pharmacy, goes largely unregulated.  Fruit, vegetables, fish (not from oceans), and staying away from grain.  Do I do this?  Of course not (big dummy here).

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I'm playing "devil's advocate here."  Since no one posting is voting for Trump.  I'm not sure what you're so peeved about since I actually agreed with your "white guy" theory?  It doesn't explain WHY he can or may win!!!  Those fools he's already got hoodwinked.  The vast majority of men AND women in the Republican Party are just MAGA.  If not for the GOP assault on Roe vs Wade, they'd probably come close to winning the female vote, too.  It's happened before, they used to have a lock on married women almost everywhere.  Women are just as capable of being crass and ignorant as men, equal opportunity!  Trump bellows plenty of red meat for them too.  I have to hear them in my family alone. 

Moreover, when I say he "speaks to every aggrieved person," yes that's his intent.  I didn't say most hear or listen to him.  Sorry if my grammar isn't perfect at all times.  I HATED English class, and much was ignored/missed.  But again, my point this entire time is that Trump continues to have this cement wall at 46-48% he cannot get beyond, due to his nasty populism and overall crudeness.  That doesn't mean that Biden is going to recapture the difference.  These are the voters who will matter.  You nor I will matter, we are already in a bucket.  It's getting the people who actually flip flop between parties, to stay Blue.  I'm trying to be helpful here, and push the discussion away from ideology and towards reality.  Slider Quinn has been there with me. 

Do not fall into the 2016 trap like I did back then.  What? Hillary is 2:1 unpopular?  Mehhhhhhhh, big deal, the other guy's a compulsive liar and a fraud, nobody will vote for him!  Well son of a gun.  QuinnSldr may well be right, and I'm just paranoid, but I've been screwed over before on this.  I can remember 2000, it was probably more stunning to me than even 2016.  The economy was outstanding in 2000, and yet Al Gore got beat by a colossal dufus, because he pissed off coal country, and Bush promised to cut taxes. 

You're "terrified" of the election, I'm defeatist, good chance having a mental breakdown.  Probably should shut up about it, because it's not fun being the party pooper, but I just cannot fathom that Biden and the Democrats have put themselves in this position.  It's careless, it's selfish, and I'm fed up.  I could be like my father, who just stopped speaking to friends and relatives, because he couldn't take their MAGA crying anymore, because St. Donald went home in 2021.  But I'm the guy who starts bitching when the team is ahead by 3 touchdowns because we have a reputation for blowing it at the end.

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Oh nice!  There's nothing like good ol' Hollywood gossip though!  Tracy's anecdotes always reminded me of speaking with and listening to the original pro's of the video game world, from Atari and later systems.  As well as collectors' stories about those folks plus each other.  Everyone was fairly eccentric, had fun times, but also there was a lot of pettiness and back stabbing that made for a good listen.

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FWIW, he's only credited on 6 episodes of Sliders, with his final script "Heat of the Moment" purposely kept away from production.  While that's unusual today, where creators like Seth McFarlane write nearly every script, not so much back then. 

PS: ireactions, are you certain you chatted with Tracy via AOL back then?  LOL.  There were so many hoaxes, pranks, and shenanigans going on back then with Sliders fans, including Tracy and other cast/crew imposters floating around.

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Ehhhhh, I don't know if Biden can get away with "campaigning from his basement" this time.  I pray I am wrong, but he really comes off badly at many of these speeches.  Trump is no better, in fact, he's 100x worse, constantly lying and getting people's names wrong, but again, his people don't care. 

As for the 2020 election, it's definitely a Trump rallying cry.  Early voting and vote by mail, which was a Republican mainstay until the idiot ruined that, remain popular.  Those who complain will be marginalized as conspiratorial nuts they are.  The ONE area that the GOP is right on, is voter ID.  It's 2024, everything and everyone is electronic at this point, and who is being disenfranchised by being asked to prove you are a legit voter?

I do find it funny that Biden may well start bitching about how Republicans refuse to "help him" on the border now.  It may well become a "stroke of genius," because the GOP will never pass any sort of border bill, even funding of DHS or USBP increases, while Biden is in office.  It's something I've been screaming about forever to this point.  Unfortunately, the Biden administration has too many leftist buffoons who can not get it through their heads that the overwhelming majority of the country is NOT for rampant unregulated immigration.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

In other political news, as the republican party continues to implode, Ron DeathSantis has suspended his campaign for the 2024 Presidential election.

Excellent news. Another fascist bites the dust.

He's still Governor of Florida for another 2 years, then likely challenges Rick Scott for Senate. 

ireactions wrote:

I didn't say that white men and white grievance was Trump's only demographic and if I implied that, it was a mistake. But it is the demographic he targets, it's who he reflects, and to whom he speaks loudest.

To say "Women love him" of Trump is a false statement. The women who voted Democrat or third party didn't "love him"; the women I marched with after Trump's 2016 victory at various protests didn't "love him", so this absolutist claim is either an exaggeration of some personal perception or an error.

There are women who do indeed support Donald Trump. It would be accurate to say that fervent female Trump supporters "love Trump", but to say "women love him" is a level of blanket generalization that is erroneously meaningless at best.

Why do Republican women vote for sexual harassers like Roy Moore or Donald Trump? My current theory is that Republican women exist in an extremely patriarchal situation where they are misused, overworked or flat out abused by men -- husbands, fathers, brothers -- and to defend themselves would cut themselves off from whatever scraps of privilege they're permitted, so they lash out at people they perceive to be even weaker: people of colour or minorities or LGBTQ or the neuroatypical with a redirected rage that, originally meant for the men in their lives, is now internalized and reoriented to the point where they don't even realize the anger that makes them express their petty bigotries or vote with those bigotries in mind.

What motivates the black and Latino men vote for Trump? My current theory is that they have become accustomed to a society that treats them as lesser humans if not outright subhuman, especially in politics where there is an intergenerational experience of rarely even having a non-racist candidate for whom to cast a ballot if they were even able to vote at all.

And historically, people of colour have often voted for whichever racist seemed more entertaining or helpful to them, such as Franklin D. Roosevelt or John F. Kennedy, but they were under no illusions that Roosevelt or Kennedy would treat them well in person. My current personal theory is that Trump-supporting men of colour Trump may feel aspire to or feel represented by Trump's absurd and performative image of dominance, bluster, boorish ranting and juvenile masculinity even if he would only ever express bigotry towards them.

This is theory. This would all qualify as coping via tribalism (thank you for sharing that, Grizzlor, I have added that to my lexicon). As described, it would be aspirational admiration rather than mental illness, but I'm imagine there are cases where it has crossed into mental illness.

Trump speaks to aggrieved white men, but I certainly wouldn't claim he only speaks to them and I should certainly have identified that as his core demographic to avoid the impression that I thought it his only one.

Here's what your missing.  In Iowa, 2/3rds of caucus voters believe Biden was illegitimately elected!  How many believe Trump is a harasser/abuser?  That wasn't asked but I guarantee it's far south of that number.  When Trump complained after Charlottesville about "good on both sides," that rang home big time with Republicans.  They simply don't believe the media.  Jan 6th is a Federal conspiracy involving FBI actors, that's literally the leading theory with them.  How is this unsurprising?  Most of that voting block are deeply religious, which means they are raised in some form of indoctrination.  That's much more of a factor as to why women support Trump, than any kind of patriarchy. 

Trump speaks to EVERY aggrieved citizen, of any race.  That's like saying a rapper only connects to minorities, when scores of fans wind up being affluent white kids.  Trump is a senior citizen's gansta rapper!!!  And you need not be white to approve of his crude, mean messaging.  He appeals to all races, and particularly to blue collar types, like a pro wrestler does. 

pilight wrote:

A substantial portion of the people who voted for Trump in the last two elections don't love him or even like him.  They just vote Republican no matter who it is.  A similar number do that for the Democrats.  Most people don't think that hard about their vote, they just pick team red or team blue.

Point I was making, yes.  "MAGA" is just a moniker, it was once "Tea Party."  Those are Republicans, how often they vote is another story, but they're Republicans.  They overwhelmingly supported renaming of French Fries to "Freedom" Fries, after all.

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My point remains, why are we wasting time squabbling over why MAGA exists and who's in it?  Who cares?  The point is to get the incredibly tepid # of people who remain disgusted by Trump to get off arses and vote against him once more.  The poll numbers remain possible, in that Trump cannot surpass that 46-48% national figure.  However, Biden is going to be an awful campaigner, and it's going to be a TALL ask for people (as the media continues to normalize Trump) to be convinced that someone should lead the free world well into his 80s.

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Tracy definitely had a Barney and Betty Hill project going at one point, I think even before Sliders, as ireactions mentioned.  Technically he produced an I Am Legend script 10 years before the Smith film, but he angrily tossed it in the trash! 

I would have to double check whether he wrote anything for Picard.  He was mentioning to Cardinal Sin once about the producers considering a Dixon Hill episode, which was followed by Gil bashing the series for 10 minutes.  However, I kinda recall Tracy sounding like nothing ever came from the request. 

BTW, I also wonder how much the Canadian produced Doomsday Brothers animated series has to do with that Doomsday cartoon Tracy was considering?

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Elizabeth Holmes was another Bernie Madoff basically, both were caught, but tons of hedge fund managers and CEO's and others make the same terrible business practices because of greed.  She concocted trash but she had multiple executives and others go along with her.  It's done out of greed or self preservation. 

Ron Desantis, after running an absolutely pathetic Presidential campaign based on his "fighting the good fight" against Disney, is out.  He was easily the WORST candidate in the field, and I really have to laugh if GOP donors think he has a future nationally.  Worse yet, he ended his campaign with a quote incorrectly attributed to Winston Churchill.

Meanwhile, Trump's State case in Georgia is likely over.  The District Attorney Fani Willis, is now mired in a serious corruption crisis that honestly should force her resignation over.  I had zero faith in her case regardless, but this is really the end of it.  Paying for your married boyfriend, on the taxpayers' dime, is really unforgivable.  She's done, and so is the case. 

Given that Jack Smith's Florida case will likely be delayed until the 22nd century by Trump Judge Cannon, and the NYC porn star payoff case is borderline ridiculous, that really just leaves the election interference case for Smith in Washington, D.C.  But that case itself is likely to be delayed further by Supreme Court appeals over Trump's immunity, and whatever else.  I doubt Trump will even see a courtroom before November.  These indictments have only served to win Trump the GOP nomination, and likely, the White House, given how unpopular and feeble Joe Biden is going to look during the campaign. 

As for MAGA...

ireactions wrote:

Trump's demographic is white men who feel that the privileges of being male and Caucasian have feel undermined by women and people of colour who aren't heterosexual. He preys upon their narcissism and wounded egos, telling them that they can overlook Trump's obvious lies and path of ruin because the sense of power and dominance is more important.

Holmes' demographic was also white men, men who felt uncomfortable with the privileges of being male and Caucasian. Men who wished to see privilege become equality and equity to the point where they would support and not question a woman describing a scientific technological process -- even if the science were obviously inoperable, the technology a flimsy illusion, and the process a scam.

This is something I could fall for. Everyone's a sucker for something.

First, MAGA is FAR more than white men, believe you me.  Women love him too.  Trump also has non-white support, even better with black men than prior GOP candidates, and his Latino support has risen to George W. Bush levels.  The reasons are simple.  Trump promises immediate, direct action on a variety of issues.  Granted that won't happen, but people are so sick of a do-nothing Washington, that just like 2016, Trump's dictatorian edicts ring true to these people.  Even as Joe Biden has actually DELIVERED many of his campaign promises!  It's exhausting, but people are too busy to pay attention. 

As for Holmes, wasn't her chief co-conspirator and husband from Pakistan?  That being said, yes, her company's Board of Directors were a who's who of the old guard of American diplomatic core, including deceased war criminal Kissinger.

Definitely well said by ireactions.  I think the best way to describe Tracy's approach to television, film writing, was fearless.  He had something to say, ideas to put to page, and he did it.  That is quickly becoming a lost art in filmmaking, as corporate marketers seem to make most of the major artistic decisions these days.  With everyone afraid of offending anyone living or dead.

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To bring it "back to Sliders," it's like if you had the choice, say a year or so ago when Torme had his pitch with NBC.  The choice is, and this site and other groups often held these polls.  Would you rather have the OG Tracy T go make that pitch, knowing that his politics were antiquated, and his resume is wrought with "being difficult," and that his stories might be too cerebral?  Meaning he has far less of a chance of getting the green light.  ORRRR would you rather a new group, led by an Alex Kurtzman type, with recent TV success, definitely more in line with Millennials, and thus a better chance of being selected?  Granted his show might be fine, you may love it, but it wouldn't be OG. 

The OG choice usually won in those polls, and guess what, in the end, sadly, his pitch was not green lit.  That's where the GOP is with Trump.  The polls continue to show him as the WEAKEST November candidate of their field, and he has so many red flags with his age, mental state, and the legal problems.  Why would you insist on the OG Gangsta??  You can say it's a cult, but in reality, Trump is his own nostalgia act at this point.  He's some iteration of Van Halen without Dave and possibly heading into Gary Cherone territory.  Am I dating myself?  The point is that MAGA = Trump, they can't give up on him now, or ever.  So why then are the non-MAGA still voting for this moron? 

That's the real question here.  Desantis and Haley are no moderates, they should be trouncing Trump, but the GOP in my opinion, is well beyond the norm now.  This leaves the sliver of reality that Biden is (dangerously) hanging on, that there will be enough Trump fearing voters, who actually bother to vote, to propel him.  The danger is that he's created plenty of people now afraid of continuing with him!

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Worse is Marco Rubio, the gutless wonder, endorsing Trump over his own Governor.  Ouch!

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Unexpected trip to the hospital for the Princess of Wales, wish her the best.  Shades of Prince of Slides?

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I read that the Iowa turnout was comically low, record low.  Granted the weather played a factor, but only 110,000 voters participated in what is, IMO, the most antiquated and absurd political process we have.  That's 15% only out of 752,000 registered Republicans in the state.  I mean, insane.  The DNC got one thing right, they canceled it entirely, how Iowa continues to hold sway is ridiculous.  So Donald Trump could ONLY muster half of that percentage?  That's not a good sign. 

Haley now must win New Hampshire, or at least be close, to effectively continue.  In NH, Trump beats Haley 47 to 35 among GOP; however, she FLATTENS him 51-24 among independents, and many of those (and Dems) are free to vote in the primary.  https://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2 … nhrep.html  Oddly, men greatly prefer Nikki while women up there are the opposite.  Likely voters are split, whereas Nikki leads big in those unlikely to vote. 

Desantis claims he's not dropping out (whatever) regardless.  I did note his speech last night in Iowa, where Ron basically screamed that Trump will lose in November.  Suppose that will be his 2028 pitch, "I told ya so."

Great post!  I do hope that "Slidecage" Jim Hall does post his thoughts here.  I suggest him to on Twitter.  I'd love to hear about that last conversation.  Even though Tracy often came off as a bit of a Debbie Downer and complainer on Awake Nation, in may ways he was a great optimist.  Personally, I didn't give his reboot much chance, not with today's media landscape and overall what a turd NBCU has become.  Exchanged many emails with the late Gil Bavel on the "Sliders convention," which I also had equally big doubts about from the get-go.  Yet Tracy was still pushing those plans right up until the end.  Was it wishful thinking?  I don't know.  I wasn't watching these broadcasts beyond the few with Cleavant and Bob, but you can tell in the summer, after a bout of the flu, that Tracy did not appear well.  It's all very unfortunate, as I too wonder what he might have done over the last 20 years had he not been chronically ill?  I had reservations about whether he was well enough to write/run a show again.

QuinnSlidr wrote:

More interviews for me to listen to this weekend. Thanks for the great updates, Grizzlor!

Although I will probably end up fast forwarding through all the UFO stuff. I'm not exactly what you would call open to the conspiracy mumbo jumbo...

Neither am I, but if you ever grew up with someone or an older relative who was great at telling "ghost stories?"  That's Tracy.  Beyond that, I'm always fascinated by late 20th century pop, and in this case, occult sub-culture.  I don't believe any of it myself, but these people were very serious about all this, aka Budd Hopkins.  The discussions over what video US Air Force releases of UFP's I find zero interest in. there's no art in that.  You go from what used to be myths and legends a la Sasquatch to digital mehhh.  No thanks.  Plus it's Tracy and old friends recounting stories about what they were doing decades ago.

ireactions wrote:

Morbidly, my suspicion ever since this thread started is that Tracy Torme pitched an original-cast-revival over a recast-reboot because he felt that he would be the only one vying for an original-cast-revival and he wanted to pitch it before he died.

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For Tracy Torme, compromise was an ugly word. His loyalty was to the original characters as played by the original cast, and not to his bank balance. I respect that.

It's certainly possible, although I think we have to temper the "original cast is back" chatter, because who knows how invested the show would have been with them.  They were definitely adding characters in some form, and there was the rumor that it would be Quinn sliding with his kids and Remmy. Wade was dead and Arturo dead or lost. 

Tracy went silent for a long, long, long time on most everything including Sliders.  He explained in one of the podcasts that he'd been having health issues for almost 20 years.  However, he never forgot about Sliders or the FANS.  He repeated over and over, he was amazed going back to the 90s with the fans.  He was so pissed and embarrassed when the show went off the rails, and couldn't believe the fans kept loyal.  That's why, IMO, he wanted to continue the original story (from some point) and keep continuity.  It was for the fans. 

pilight wrote:

The sad truth is that Tracy Torme's death probably improves the chances of a Sliders reboot.  It almost certainly ends whatever vain hope might have existed for a continuation with the original cast.

I would agree with this statement, but unfortunately, I don't know if the chances improved THAT much.  He said on the Awake Nation that he, Epstein, and the former Fox producer gal took a meeting with NBCU.  There was one person who was a Sliders fan, and the rest had never heard of it.  And you wonder why the pitch went nowhere? 

The other issue would have been Tracy's fiercely held beliefs that Sliders would not be "woke," and though I doubt that would have even been a problem.  What might have been would be if he wrote anything that put a satirical spin on whatever, because there would be some interest group or party pooper up in arms about it.  There's great fear in TV land against doing anything controversial, nor even poking fun.  I could easily see some NBC executives throwing a fit.  But I've said that for the last two years, I cannot comprehend how modern Hollywood would have the balls to do an honest Sliders these days?  I mean, could they even get away with Prince of Wails, where the British royal family is goofed on?  Tracy actually joked on the podcast that Bob Weiss would never get away with the guy in the wheel chair flipping out of the upper deck of the stadium in Naked Gun!

No problem, I was able to take photos of the pages and use an online JPG to TXT website that did 95% of the work.  I will NOT be transcribing the remainder of that book, there's not much of substance in there, trust me.

I found The Awake Nation streams.  However, it seems like there's more episodes archived on Rumble under The David Zublick Channel, so I'm going to use those links.  Obviously, this program is pretty "out there" and covers every conspiracy theory known to man, woman, and coyote.  I will put the time at which Tracy joins, ha ha!  I know some of you weren't on the same page as Tracy or certainly the two hosts, politically, so I rewatched all of these to give a brief synopsis and probably make it evident which ones to avoid.  The vast majority feature Tracy recounting his career and many obscure occultist stories that he was fond of.  He was a great storyteller and makes it very worthwhile. 

If you excise the political rants, these appearances really managed to touch on every aspect of Tracy's life and career, and could serve as a biography on the man.  Why should anyone care?  Well, if you are a fan of Sliders, I think it's important to know where he drew motivation for so much of his writing on there.  He was learned and passionate on many subjects, but also had a big heart.  For me personally, Tracy gave a few interviews and chat room appearances from time to time, then over 20 years ago he just kind of vanished.  His appearance on the DVD's extras was one of the few he did for seemingly decades.  He gave an interview to Matt at Earthprime, but we mostly never heard from him.  Not until his appearances with Cardinal Sin and then these. 

2023.02.01 (0:42:00-1:30:00) The Story Behind Sliders, reboot pitch update, and David Peckinpah anecdotes.
2023.02.15 (1:40:00-2:30:00) Chinese balloons, Tracy's battle against political correction, Hollywood Wokeness, subverting FOX execs, Sliders stories that couldn't be told, on the cusp of UFO revelation, Fire in the Sky chatter
2023.02.22 (1:31:00-2:31:00) Tracy with "Alien Abductee" Travis Walton
2023.03.01 (1:43:00-2:32:00) Tracy recounts his early involvement on I Am Legend. Followed by films featuring pandemics and related conspiracies. Crop circles. Zodiac killer.
2023.03.08 (1:29:00-2:29:00) Aliens/The X-Files link? Bob Dylan. More Zodiac (Robert Graysmith). Alien disinformation.
2023.03.15 (1:33:00-2:28:00) Roswell with researcher/author Don Schmitt.
2023.04.05 (1:32:30-2:33:00) Dog rescue stories from Tracy and his friend.
2023.04.12 (1:33:30-2:31:00) Societal issues affecting the airline industry.
2023.04.19 (1:33:00-2:35:00) Tracy's unreleased "Doomsday" animated series with Howard Stern. Comedian Rick Overton on navigating political correctness.
2023.04.26 (1:29:00-2:28:00) Eat bugs not meat?  Political rant time.
2023.05.10 (1:31:00-1:36:00) Budd Hopkins hypnosis sessions, and the abduction phenomenon.
2023.05.17 (1:25:00-2:31:00) Tracy and Peter Robbins in a sophisticated UFO abduction discussion.
2023.05.24 (1:30:00-2:25:00) Cleavant Derricks appears to talk Sliders!
2023.05.31 (1:38:30-2:32:00) California is BAD rant. Brad Linaweaver mentioned.
2023.06.07 (1:32:00-2:31:00) Round table on the "latest" UFO news.
2023.06.21 (1:33:00-2:28:00) Hunter Biden and UFOs. 
2023.07.19 (1:32:00-2:33:00) Robert K. Weiss appears!
2023.08.02 (1:32:00-2:30:00) Talks about UFOlogists Allen Hynek and Lou Elizondo
2023.08.09 (1:35:00-2:30:00) mostly politics
2023.08.16 (1:31:00-2:31:00) UFO talk with Thom Reed.
2023.08.23 (1:37:00-2:38:00) Tracy and brother James remininisce musically. 
2023.09.06 (1:40:00-2:30:00) UFOlogist Don Ecker joins.

ireactions wrote:

I didn't realize until the podcasts that Torme was a fan of THE PRISONER, a show that was really fantastic for the first run of 13 or so episodes and then collapsed upon itself in its final four. Amusingly, if you read the script for SLIDERS' "Please Press One", you can tell that it was meant to be a lengthy tribute to THE PRISONER, but it doesn't really come through onscreen, and I only hope that Torme never, ever, ever saw it.

He'd mentioned Patrick McGoohan when discussing Sliders back in the 90s, it's in the Linaweaver book/interviews.  I believe it impacted his writing on TNG as well, he was really as obsessed with The Prisoner as much as many of us were for Sliders.  He certainly treasured the brief phone conversations he was able to have with his idol Mr. McGoohan prior to his death.  Invasion he cited as an homage to The Prisoner, and you can definitely see why.  I can assure you, Tracy never saw Please Press One!  Supposedly he had some kind of tepid script review in his contract as "executive consultant," but he always maintained that he refused to participate in production whatsoever once Peckinpah was kept on as showrunner.  I know in the old IRQ chats when he'd drop in (quite randomly), and elsewhere, he was emphatic about this, and often reacted quizzically if a concept from Seasons 4/5 were brought up, because I truly think he had no idea.  There was stuff that went down in Season 3 which he was aware of and greatly embarrassed by.  I don't know if that was just based on scripts he saw, or if others saw the episodes and cued him in, to his horror.

That being said, I would always point out that a lot of what Tracy wrote on Sliders links back to his love of dark comedy and cultural/political satire.  He was a writer on SNL in the early 1980s, as well.  Honestly, one of my favorite things about Sliders was the music.  Granted Cleavant was a great musician and singer, but Sliders as only it could was unique in that you'd have multiple characters performing specifically written songs.  Not a full musical episode or anything like that, just very random.  Was there any goofier song than Cry Like A Man?!  He also wrote satirical country songs for his father Mel to sing in Greatfellas, and Mel was no country crooner, again Tracy saying I'm going to do the most unexpected thing here.  As he stated in the Linaweaver book, as well, he KILLS off his old man in the middle of the episode!  Then went to great lengths to hide the fact he would return at the end unharmed, to keep the cast and crew out of the loop.

Hey, can we move the "Future of Sliders" chatter to the other thread?  Just to make it easier for people to find stuff in here. [Moderator Message: Request granted, posts were relocated here: https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 225#p15225 ]


*These are the Cardinal S ones I could find, where in the stream Tracy shows up is random, a few he was audio only. 
**Awake Nation's site went down or something today, so I couldn't search there yet.

Cardinal Sin appearances:

Sliders/science fiction themed
2021.07.12 - Masters of the Genre #8 Tracy Tormé
2021.09.22 - Masters of the Genre #9 Tracy Tormé & Marc Scott Zicree

The Prisoner themed
2021.09.15 - I Am Not a Number #1 w special guest Tracy Tormé!
2021.09.22 - I Am Not A Number #2 Arrival With Tracy Tormé & Captain Cockney Spock!
2021.10.21 - I Am Not A Number #6 The Schizoid Man
2021.10.27 - I Am Not a Number #7 - The General
2021.11.03 - I Am Not A Number #8 Many Happy Returns
2021.11.10 - I Am Not A Number #9 - Dance of the Dead
2021.11.24 - I Am Not A Number #10 - Checkmate - with Tracy Tormé
2021.12.08 - I Am Not A Number #12 "It's Your Funeral"
2022.01.19 - I Am Not A Number # 16 - The Girl Who Was Death
2022.01.22 - I Am Not A Number #15 - Living in Harmony
2022.01.26 - I Am Not A Number # 17 - Once Upon a Time
2022.02.09 - I Am Not A Number #18 -- Fall Out

UFO themed
2022.12.01 - Into The Fringe #86 Don Ecker & Tracy Tormé - UFO Updates & Best Cases
2023.02.03 - Into The Fringe #95 Tracy Tormé & Don Ecker

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