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The movie looks good.

The trailer seemingly tells the entire story, beat by beat.  In chronological order.  I haven't read a single online spoiler, but I can basically tell you the entire plot based on this one trailer.

It's baffling why studios do this.

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This seems like....many accidents waiting to happen

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On the Walking Dead.  Spoilers.

I know some of you watch, and this is a show I sorta hate-watch.  A lot of people are talking about the idea that, last night, Rick took a step in his fight against Negan and the Saviors by acting very-much like Negan and the Saviors.  And that's a fine talking point, but the show does that all the time.

Something I'd like to talk about is something a little different and something that I think could've made this season of the Walking Dead different.  The Saviors are shown to be just like a lot of the other evil communities in the show.  The big difference is that they're more like gangsters....going around and shaking people down in exchange for peace.

But what if the Saviors....were saviors?  What if they were shaking people down for...protection?

Imagine a different version of this season where, for the first time, Walkers weren't a problem?  Alexandria and Hilltop are free to go on supply runs because....the Saviors are a protection racket.  They take your guns and they take their cut of your "revenue", but they're also out there mowing down the walking dead.  And they're good at it.  They can clear whole towns and help put up walls and start communities.  And, in exchange, they get their piece of the pie.

It'd be an interesting conundrum where people are torn between living in this authoritarian government and living in complete zombie-infested chaos.

I think it'd be a much more interesting dynamic - Negan would be evil, sure.  But he'd have a much better reason to think of himself as the good guy.  "Look, we're out there winning this war for you.  We keep your communities safe.  All we're asking for is for you to gather up some supplies and share them with us while we're doing it.  While we're out there risking our lives, we don't have time to plant a garden and get food.  You guys are going to have to do that for us if you want to live in peace."

I think that would be much better.

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I watched seasons 2 and 3 but it dragged.  This season, he's gone to Washington DC and is working with a secret group (very small) that is the direct result of Washington trying to build in a supernatural defense into the government.  It feels like a very organic move for the show.  Depending on what happens, I think this season is worth checking out (I don't think there's any need to see the other two seasons - this one is very much a follow up to the 1st season).

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I can't find the old Sleepy Hollow post, but I wanted to say a couple things about it.

First off, I think it's been really fun this year.  A lot like season one.  I think the new people have meshed really well, and the stories they're telling are interesting.  I think Dreyfuss and taking over America with supernatural help is a great move for the series, and they've kept Sleepy Hollow close (enough) that it doesn't feel like a spin-off.

Second, they called it the "season finale" but I wonder if it will be back.  Even with half the original cast, it can't be cheap, and the ratings are about 2/3 what they were last year (when it was brought back for less episodes on a Friday).  That being said, it's just a half-season show, and it seemed to do okay on a Friday.  Maybe it will be back.

Third, it's really weird that we've had a couple different flash forwards, and they still haven't really explained what happened to cause Dreyfus' America.  So he kills the president and becomes president?  Becomes emperor?  Other than change the flag and execute political prisoners, what's different about his country?  I'm sure they have budget restraints of showing too much (thus the story told in children's drawings), but they can tell us about it in dialogue and it doesn't cost anything smile

Fourth, it reminds me a lot of Fringe's final two seasons.  And not just because John Noble is back.

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The new trailer is out.  Looks really fun!

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Well, the campaign is now "Unite the League" - I'm guessing there were alternate plans that fell through.  There's rumors that Green Lantern is gonna show up.  Could be Martian Manhunter since he's always been a part of the team, but there's been zero indication of that.

I'd say it's just going to be the six we've seen.

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In theory, I really like the idea of this season.  In showing both the start of Oliver's journey as the Hood and bringing in a villain directly borne from his sins is interesting.  It shows some of his growth, but the show has been so inconsistent on whether or not Oliver even sees a problem with killing bad guys.  I honestly can't say whether or not he thinks that.

Batman has his "no kill" rule (which he breaks all the time), and while Oliver seems more Batman than Superman, I think Oliver's "no kill" rule is more like Clark's.  I think he avoids killing when he can, but I don't think he has any particular problem killing if other lives are at stake.  For example, if the Joker were Oliver's arch-nemesis, I don't see any reason why Oliver (the Arrow version, at least) wouldn't put an arrow through his heart and be done with it.

That would also separate Oliver from, say, Dexter (of the show of the same name).  Dexter has to kill, and he actually does use his "monster" to only kill people who "deserve" it.  Oliver may enjoy killing, but I think he only enjoys killing bad guys.  If push came to shove, Dexter would kill a good person instead of not killing.  There's no indication that Oliver has anywhere near that problem.

I think a more interesting twist would've been a revelation that Robert Queen's list was a fake or a forgery of some kind.  That many of the people he killed were innocent.  I don't know if that would possibly jive with season one, but the idea that the catalyst for Oliver's entire journey would be built on a lie would be interesting.

One other thing that's been bothering me.  Susan found evidence that linked Oliver to the Bratva to the Green Arrow, who showed up at the same time Oliver did.  But that's not right - the Green Arrow has only been around two years - the one who showed up at the same time as Oliver was "The Arrow" or "The Hood" - and the official story is that he's dead.  Oliver even references it when he declares himself as the Green Arrow.

So as far as Susan should technically be concerned, the bigger story is that Oliver was both the Arrow and the Green Arrow, and that the Arrow and the Green Arrow are the same person.

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It'd be fun to re-write the opening bits of each show.

My name is Oliver Queen.  After five years in Hell, I returned home with one goal: Revenge.  By day, I am CEO of Queen Weapons Technologies, but at night, I am someone else.  I am something else.

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Do we think Superman is going to show up in the promotional campaign for Justice League, or are they going to pretend like he's actually dead? smile

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Informant wrote:

It would be cool to have a crossover with bad versions of people up against their good counterparts. I think that Harry Wells could have a double on Kara's Earth, so that would be an easy crossover. And Kara could exist on Earth 1 or Earth 2. It would be fun to play with alternate versions of these characters.

Exactly, but I might take it a step further and do something like Enterprise's "In a Mirror, Darkly" episodes.  In LoT, the Legion gets the spear, and they change reality to their desires.

Then, the next week of shows takes place entirely in the "Doomworld" where each hero is essentially muscle for one of the Legion.  Barry works for Thawne as a thug/errand boy, whatever.  And either Team Flash is entirely evil, or Barry is tracking down "hero" versions of Caitlin / Cisco / Firestorm etc.  Oliver is working for Darhk or Merlyn (either of them as Ra's).

And instead of having to fight "our" versions of the characters, we just see an adventure from these dark versions of the characters we know. 

They could either do this with crossovers (where Barry and Oliver have to team up to take down the remaining heroes), or it could be done entirely separately.  The finale would be on Legends, where the team shows up to fix things (they were in the Vanishing Point so they were protected), and they have to fight the Legion (and dark versions of Barry/Oliver) to get the spear back.

I think it'd be more fun than fighting a bunch of random gray aliens smile

(Supergirl could appear to either show that her universe is also affected - so an episode her her basically running National City as a goddess - or not be included)

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Just like Gorilla City could've been a much better 4-way crossover, I almost feel like next week's Legends could've been a much more fun way of doing things.  They could've basically done the Crime Syndicate of America and done "evil" versions of all four shows, with the Legends fixing things in their episode.

And there's one thing in the episode that's really gonna bother Informant from what I've seen.

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Y'all are holding the Flash to a strong sense of continuity when it comes to a fantasy inside of a CW show smile

I think this episode should've been non-canonical.  I think it'd have been better if they just said "hey, we have a lot of musically-talented people, and let's have some fun."  I'd have preferred they did it on Legends of Tomorrow so they could waste one of their episodes, but it made the most sense on Flash.  If it was non-canonical, there'd be no reason to judge it.

But since it is canon and is supposed to exist inside the story, let me do my best.  Most of it can be explained away with "it's a fantasy."  Kara is a human in the fantasy, and Mon-El is a human in the fantasy.  So why are Joe and Stein together when they're both heterosexual in real life?  Because the "musical" wanted two talented singers in the same scene.

Why is Merlyn there?  I think the better question is why Mon-El is Merlyn's son, when Iris is also Joe's daughter.  Everyone seems to have the same familial connections except for that one.  But the answer is that John Barrowman can sing and Kevin Sorbo can't.

Has Merlyn met Barry?  I can't think of a specific scene that they've had together, but Merlyn was basically the arch-nemesis of Team Arrow for years.  Oliver never met Zoom, but he still mentioned him at Laurel's grave.  And even if Barry didn't know Merlyn personally, he'd still be aware of him.  He was still a prominent figure in Starling City and a known Criminal.  And since he's playing a gangster, him showing up in Barry's fantasy would've made as much sense as anyone else.  Barry doesn't run into a lot of gangsters smile

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I'm still more impressed that he figured out from a pair of glasses that they were going to use Abra Kadabra from HR's world.

But, yes, TF is basically psychic at this point smile

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Apparently Rachel Bloom wrote the SuperFriends song.  So take with that what you will.

I would've loved to see them go crazy, Broadway-style.

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Eh, it was dumb, but I thought they did it in an interesting way.  I enjoyed the "Amazo-ness" of Music Meister's "plan" (the fact that I have to put quotation marks around two words probably isn't great, but you know what I mean), and I thought both shows meshed really well together.  I wish they'd have Winn meet Cisco (he did reference that they'd be best friends), but Cisco was definitely more Vibe than tech guy this episode.

I thought the actors playing Winn and Cisco actually performed way better than I thought they would, and I'm also glad they brought back Stein and Merlyn since their actors have musical backgrounds.

The music was meh.  I'm not huge on musicals, and it's weird that Kara and Barry are both apparently huge on musicals since neither has mentioned it before this week as far as I can tell.  And while I think Kara and Barry have great chemistry together, it's also a bit weird that they're always talking about how great friends they are when they've spent about a day and a half together?

It's also a bit weird that Supergirl had a huge moment with Mon-El on the Flash.  The crossovers are fun, but having key information about one character on another show is just weird to me.  I'm sure they'll include it in the "previously on..." in next week's Supergirl, but it's still odd.

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Don't worry, Barry will go back in time and undo it (and everything else) at the end of the season.  As he is prone to doing...

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Synopsis!  Synopsis!

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That's...........dumb.

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April is a being of pure imagination?

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Well, at the end of the day, everyone wants what Disney has right now.  Say what you want about the MCU and Star Wars, but they're licenses to print money.  It's a series of movies that will carry on until the genre falls off.  Star Wars is going to do a movie a year for the rest of our lives, and I'm sure it's nice to have 1-2 Marvel movies that they can count on generating some profit.

WB wants that with the DCCU.  Sony wants that with a Spider-Man universe (which they were trying before they decided to share the rights with Disney).  Universal wants it with their MonsterVerse (which they tried to start with Dracula: Untold and will now restart with the Mummy), and Legendary wants it with their MonsterVerse.

And I get it.  DC wants to slot these movies and make their money while they can.  But I don't ever advocate rushing a movie, especially when the previous movies have had mixed reactions.  Take your time and make sure the movies are good.

Because, honestly, making a movie more about a release date than a movie is what Marvel does.  It's why their movies are so generic and cookie cutter smile

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Informant wrote:

Just for some perspective, Sony just announced a Venom movie that I believe is scheduled for October 2018. They haven't written it yet, so it is probably pretty early on. There is a chance that some of these DC ideas are further ahead in the process.

I think the Venom movie is also a terrible idea.  I think Sony is doing some really bizarre things with the Spider-Man property.  He's part of the MCU, but there's going to be a spin-off that isn't?  And there's going to be an animated Spider-Man movie that's unrelated to anything?

I know that Lego Batman is running at the same time as the DCEU, but that feels more like a Lego movie than a Batman movie.  The Spider-Man movie is just going to be a Spider-Man movie.  Maybe that's a weird line that I'm drawing, but it's just strange that Sony is going to have three entirely separate Spider-Man franchises going at the same time.

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http://www.superherohype.com/news/39318 … d#/slide/1

No. No. No. No. No. No. NO.

Don't rush a movie out.  Don't do it.  Do not.

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Well as far as the Legends goes, I'm guessing Rory's always had a statue in DC.  So in Arrow/Flash, we're seeing the "Final version" of whatever the Legends end up doing?

I don't know.  I still think Legends should've been a one-season show, and it should've moved to an anthology series after that (TF's idea, I believe).  That would've been better.

And I'm surprised TF hasn't patted himself on the back for his Abra Kadabra prediction yet smile

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I'm just accepting that Reverse Flash exists in a form exactly where he was at the end of the season one finale.  Nothing we saw was ever erased.  And just moving on smile

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Well, I don't think we knew enough about Earth One Wells to judge him at all.  Based on HR and Harry, he was probably still a smug a-hole smile

As far as Eobard goes, I still don't really get it.  If Eobard never existed, then Earth One Wells should still be alive.  No one was there to manipulate Barry into being the Flash early.  Basically nothing from season one should've happened.  But they all did.  Y'all have tried to explain it, but I still don't get it.

Helmets....they're a problem.  It's why Spider-Man is always taking off his mask.  It's why the Power Rangers movie seems to be full of shots of the Rangers with the face-part of their masks removed.  People think that if we can't see the actor's faces, we won't understand what emotions they're showing.

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Sepinwall doesn't usually get caught in that BS.  He likes it or he doesn't, and his complaints about Marvel shows have been pretty similar to yours.  Good but drags on too long.  Too repetitive.  He really liked season one of Daredevil and didn't care as much for season two.  Was less into Jessica Jones and Luke Cage.

He says to simply skip this one.  Not "it's bad, go in knowing that" - "Don't worry about it.  You'll catch up when Defenders airs"

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And in that same vein, I don't know if I would've felt it if TF hadn't brought it up but something is off about HR.  He's always pushing people in certain directions....it comes off as just being a good mentor, but it's calculated.  And a lot of time, it puts people in direct danger.  HR training Wally led directly to Savitar getting out.  At the same time, HR possibly manipulated Jesse into fighting Savitar and led to discovering that he can be hurt.

There's something there, and he's obviously not as dumb as he wants people to think.  He is still Harrison Wells, after all.

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Alan Sepinwall absolutely hated Iron Fist.  He's enjoyed (for the most part) the other Netflix series, so that's a bad sign.

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ireactions wrote:

I would now like Slider_Quinn21 to chime in and say these novels aren't canon.

Well, is any of this technically canon after the reboot? big_smile

(I know Enterprise takes place prior to Nero's trip back in time, which is the branching point, but I'll point out that if Kirk went to the War memorial and has fond memories of Starfleet, that doesn't necessarily fit in with the Kirk from the reboot.)

My question is actually different.

The Enterprise finale is framed by a story taking place during TNG.  The prequel novel is framed by a story taking place in the context of TOS.  The sequel novel is framed by a story taking place during DS9.

Why can't any Enterprise conclusion just be an Enterprise story? smile

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I think it was supposed to be that the chef was just a guy, and Riker was "playing" him.  So everything that happened happened (accounting for any issues with the records from the time), but they were just watching a recreation.

That ending was weird, though.

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TemporalFlux wrote:

I also can't help but notice that every device H.R. has is shaped like a wand.  He even carries a drum stick around with him (which one could argue is wand-like).  The Flash villain Abra Kadabra still hasn't made an appearance yet...

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings/20170308cw05/

Also from Earth 19.... 

Hmm.

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#24-25 sounds fascinating from a writing perspective.  Connecting two dots that were never intended to be connected in a way that's both creative but true to both stories.

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How does Donatello become a cyborg?  Is it voluntary?  The result of injuries?

Who cuts off Leonardo's arm?  Random bad guy or major villain?

Mikey's dating a human?

I'm enjoying reading the stories through your recaps smile

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I don't care much for Thor or Thor: the Dark World.  It isn't really that the character isn't well played or well written...I just don't really care about the character. 

That being said, I'm actually pretty excited about Ragnarok.  Take away his hammer and make him fight the Hulk?  A Planet Hulk - ish movie?  That could be fun.

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Secondary weird note - is it weird to anyone else that the Impala isn't more protected?  I'd think it'd be warded like crazy.  There's only a ward in the trunk, right?

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Sorta funny Walking Dead reference in this week's episode.  Dean has a barbed-wire-covered baseball bat, and he says "Dad loved this thing."  John Winchester (Jeffrey Dean Morgan, obviously) is now on TWD and famously uses a barbed-wire-covered bat.

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Well, that's the thing with Firestorm.  He's typically too powerful for any single mission, so the writers (and by extension, the crew) are always separating Stein from Jax.  It makes sense sometimes (because Stein is the oldest and worst in combat), but Stein should at least be nearby.  Firestorm could've easily flown out to get the part, and Ray could've accompanied him.  Then they could've sent Sara and Nate into Rip's mind.

There's such little thought put into each plan, though.

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What's funny is that I thought they were being sorta creative with their use of CGI towards the beginning of the episode (just using sounds to reference a T-Rex but then not showing it).  But the whole Firestorm thing looked really low quality - even his flying looked really bizarre.  And then they ended up showing the T-Rex anyway (which looked fine, I guess).

And I'm sure you noticed, once again, that Sara just can't control herself around any attractive female.  She's not just gone from bisexual to lesbian, but she's gone from bisexual to lesbian to lesbian fratguy.

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Was it just me, or did the CGI on Legends of Tomorrow (primarily Jax/Firestorm) look really...really bad this week?

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Well, I think the JSA existed in complete secret.  Much like the JSA in Smallville.  If costumed heroes were no big deal on Smallville, then it wouldn't have taken Clark so long to be used to the idea.  The whole Warrior Angel thing existed because it was a novelty.

I think Supergirl is trying to say that the alien stuff is really recent (this season).  So she had to grow up in secret because no one knew about the aliens.  Now?  I'm not even sure why Kara has to keep her identity a secret anymore....all her friends and family can protect themselves (they're all basically superheroes or spies).  I guess people would be mobbing her all the time, but that's just the life of a celebrity.

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Question - do we think aliens exist on Earth at the same level on Earth One as Earth-Supergirl?  Because we know aliens exist on Earth One, and they're *everywhere* on Supergirl.  Are they all in hiding?

And I felt like they were hitting the immigration a little too on the head on this week's Supergirl.  Not as bad as Arrow but close.

I also wonder why anyone ever tries to kill someone in National City or Metropolis by throwing them off a building.  That won't work....a Kryptonian will catch them smile

Speaking of Earth One - I know we're used to it (with Earth Prime and all), but Team Flash simply called the Arrowverse "Earth One" to simplify things.  Earth Two was called that because it was the only parallel Earth that anyone knew about.  And, yet, Gypsy actually refers to Earth One as Earth One.  Was she just speaking Team Flash's language, or is there some kind of actual parallel universe tracking system and the Arrowverse does just happen to be Earth One?

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To me, it isn't so much about being "grim" or "dark" - it's how the characters relate to me and how I relate to them.  When I look at Clark Kent or Bruce Wayne, I look at people who are braver than me.  Who are stronger than me.  Who are better versions than I could possibly hope to be.  I want to make myself more like them...I don't necessarily want to see myself in them.

I know his ideas on Clark are controversial (American Alien is still sitting on my bedside table unopened), but Max Landis had a little rant after Man of Steel that really helped me understand why Superman is such a fascinating character.  The guy has all the powers, and people see that as boring.  But, to him, it's not his powers that make him interesting or notso....it's the way he reacts to his powers.  That he basically has two options in life - save the world or rule it.  And that he decides "why not" try and save it.  That, instead of absolute power corrupting him absolutely, absolute power absolved him of all the petty crap that we deal with.

So, yeah, Clark would have problems, but at the end of the day, I think he'd understand how freakin' lucky he is to be who he is.  How much fun he'd get to have on a daily basis.  He might've lost his whole family, but he's had a great family his whole life.  He might be alone, but he doesn't even necessarily identify as Kryptonian.

That's why I liked Smallville's Clark.  He has normal human problems (relationships, school, purpose, etc), but at the end of the day, the guy is a beacon that brings a lot of people to the light.  At the end of the day, he can run off to Europe with Bart or super-basketball with Pete.  My lasting memory of Clark in Smallville isn't him brooding over Lana or wearing the black suit that one season.  It's him smiling on the farm.  Clark has a great life, and he knows it.  Even on the CW.

Even Batman is a similar type.  Yeah, he's dark.  He's brooding.  But even he seems to understand that he has it better than most.  That's why he's willing to take punishment to save people - he can and they can't.  There's a weird dichotomy between the Batman who is alone and the Batman who keeps rescuing kids and putting them in colorful costumes, but I think it's a natural evolution of the character.  Like the boxing gym down the street, some kids need to channel their violence in a healthy way.  Bruce knows this as well as anyone.

I don't like the Christopher Reeve Superman, and I don't like the Henry Cavill Superman.  To me, they both get it wrong.  Superman can't be all happy, but he shouldn't be too challenged either.  I don't want to see myself in him.  He should be better.

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Two things:

1. They didn't really acknowledge it.  "Where did you get this?" became more about Ramiel than how it ended up with him.  I'm guessing we'll have to use our imaginations.  It's cool that it's back, although I'm also impressed that Sam was able to recite, from memory, how to make the bullets.  I didn't think it was an error....I think Sam probably would remember that.

2. Are we supposed to hate the British Men of Letters?  By the end of the episode, Sam comes around, but I kept thinking the whole time that the BMoL are *objectively* better at this than the Winchesters.  Whether or not that one lady tortured the boys or not, the operation itself seems like an amazing success.  I don't know if they're going for some sort of political angle (the whole "going after criminals" vs "going after terrorists" angle), but I honestly have considered the BMoL to be incredibly effective.  Even the whole bureaucracy thing, where they get really smart people who help the men on the field is efficient.

The only question I have is why it's taken so long for them to come over.  Especially since they can clearly spare the manpower.  It'd be cool if they were fighting their own version of the Darkness or Leviathans or whatever, and they just recently cleaned that up.  Because if they're this good and America was this "Wild West", why didn't they try and civilize the US earlier?

I know they'll probably end up evil or something will be terribly wrong with the way they do things.  If only because I don't think the show wants to be Sam and Dean: Agents of MoL.  But, for now, it's almost refreshing to see hunting done differently.

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I still live in a fantasy world.

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I think the whole thing was staged.

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Now I'm picturing a DC series called "Afterlife" that takes place in some form of purgatory.  Once a hero dies, he joins the fight in the afterlife.  No resurrections....just a continuation of their story fighting alongside other fallen heroes while they await judgment.

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Not to mention

"Twelve minutes to Wapner...."

RIP.

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They all sorta have their roles.  Felicity is sorta the internet/hacking person.  Cisco is the tech guy.  Caitlin *should* be the doctor (but you're right, no one is using her that way, not even Arrow, really).  Stein should be the physicist.   

Cisco should primarily be on Flash, but he's a fun character and has made a ton of tech for Team Arrow.  Caitlin has never really had much to do so her floating around being the medic when things go bad wouldn't be the worst idea.  Diggle should also stay on Arrow most of the time, but he could've been really valuable on Flash when there weren't a half-dozen speedsters he could've left in charge of defending Central City.

Heck, Wally could be a guy who could come in and save the day when Oliver or the Legends get in over their heads.  He gives the four shows a speedster who could be on loan to save the day in a pinch so that they don't have to always use Barry (Wally could've been the one to cameo on Arrow a couple weeks ago).

But it's not just appearances that are down....even casual mentions seem to be down this year, outside of a handful of fun stuff that I've already mentioned (the Cisco/Gypsy fight and the aforementioned Arrow/Central City stuff).  Those don't require special contracts, but they still seem to be happening less.  I wonder if they were told to focus on their own shows and worry less about fun "ARROWVERSE" moments.

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Informant wrote:

The new contracts that people like Katie Cassidy and Wentworth Miller signed appear to be pretty useless. They're not being used across the different shows. They're not kept available when the shows do want to use them (Katie was off working on a movie and had to work out a schedule for her to appear). So I really don't even know what those contracts mean. Were they purely symbolic?

I don't know, but it sorta sucks.  I was hoping this was going to start a new trend.  I think Cisco and Felicity should be on similar contracts, able to flow in and out of any show that requires them.  Same with Winn if they ever get on the same Earth.  Cisco plays with anyone, and I think Winn could be the same way.  And Felicity works so well with Barry that she should be on there as much as she can.  I also think the Legends could work well flowing in and out of shows, and if the team was more fluid, they wouldn't have to constantly leave people on the ship for no reason.

And I still maintain that if they wanted to go James as Guardian on Supergirl, they should've sent him to train with Oliver's team.  He's even more useless on Supergirl in Season 2 than he was in Season 1.

I don't think speedsters and the Legends metas should be showing up on Arrow because that show needs to be as grounded as it can be, but outside of that, they should be having more fun with their roster.  Instead, they seem to be moving away from that.

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Is there some weird scheduling issue with some of these shows?  Supergirl's Valentine's Day episode aired a week after Valentine's Day (instead of the day before) and a Legends of Tomorrow Christmas episode aired in February.

I've also noticed that there's been a lot less intra-show referencing and any reference to what's happening on the other shows so we know what the timeline is.  And very little of main characters crossing over (Felicity on Flash, Sara on Arrow, etc).  I thought there'd be more of that considering the contracts they were signing.  I wonder if that's all in reaction to what happened with the Arrow flash forward / Zoom / Barry's powers mess.

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How did they explain his resurrection?

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All that matters is

DCEU 1
MCU 0

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Well the DCEU is Oscar-winning now tongue

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Well, my guess is that the Colt played it's purpose in Kripke's version of the show (killing everything it needed to kill), and when it couldn't kill Lucifer, it was discarded.  If you just watch seasons 1-5 (which, in Kripke's mind, is all there is), then it's not really even a plot hole.  Whether Bobby has it, Crowley has it, Dean has it, or it's still in that field....Sam is dead and Dean is no longer hunting.  Who has the Colt isn't important.

So there wasn't a shot of the Colt going missing or a mention of it because it no longer mattered in the 5-season arc that Kripke was telling.  And, as you said, the new writers either didn't know what to do with it, couldn't justify where it was supposed to be (since Kripke left no bread crumbs to follow) or just ignored it because it was too powerful.

I think it's a really interesting conversation.  Do we know if Kripke still follows the show?  I wonder if he's like Torme and doesn't really care anymore, or if he still watches as a fan.  I wonder where he'd think the Colt went.

Either way, it's cool that it's back.  And I wonder if they'll even worry about filling in the blanks.  Will they do a scene re-enacting the attack on Lucifer?  Or do we have all they're going to give us?

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http://www.superherohype.com/news/39150 … wing-movie

We're also getting a Nightwing movie.  I guess he'd have to be introduced in the Batman?  Either way, this is the first official confirmation that Dick Grayson exists!

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Informant wrote:

But seriously, I do like some goofy shows. I just think that I have to feel some amount of care when I'm watching it. To me, when I watched Agents of SHIELD for the 3.4 (or whatever) seasons, I just saw people getting a paycheck. I saw billboards for whatever movie was coming out, or whichever phase of the MCU plan was about to kick in.

I agree with this sentiment as far as the first couple seasons went.  Every episode there was a name-drop or a wink or a reference.  Nick Fury would show up.  Or lesser characters from the movies (Sif from Thor, for example).  And whenever a movie would come out, they'd scramble to change for it or have an "event" episode in the aftermath.  There was a big, complicated story arc on AoS where they explained how they obtained a Helicarrier for Nick Fury to use.  It's a big part of Age of Ultron, but the show isn't mentioned at all (or even a wink to the show - he just has it).

Since they did the Inhumans arc, the show's sorta done its own thing.  And, this season, magic has been at the forefront, but they aren't tying it to Dr. Strange.  In season 2, the whole season would be about helping Strange and there'd be a cameo from Wang or something.  Instead, they're focusing on other aspects of magic, and (as far as I know), Strange hasn't been mentioned.  No references at all.

And, yeah, there's not Emmy-level performances or really deep characters, but I feel like they've grown a lot more.  It used to be a show that I just watched, but now I look forward to it.  It's fun.

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Barry traveled between worlds - that's how he got to Kara's Earth.  Or did that change when they filled all the breaches?  I really have no idea.

Also, I forgot to mention, but the CGI in that episode looked really bad.  I thought the vistas and overheads of Gorilla City looked really cool, but whenever they had a human actor clearly in front of a green screen, it looked terrible.  I know it's a TV budget, but it's odd that they even tried it considering how bad it looked.

I also wondered if Wally would go to Earth-2.  Doesn't really fit with Barry training him, but it seems like it'd solve both problems (they get to be together without her abandoning her dad).

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I enjoyed the Gorilla City episode of Flash, but....

1. Why does Flash always use Cisco to open breaches?  Jesse was able to speed her way to Earth-1.  Barry can too.  Is it just ease?

2. Wouldn't this have been a better reason to unite the four teams?  I know they have a team of speedsters, which is better than basically anyone in the Arrowverse but Kara....but wouldn't it be better than fighting a bunch of aliens that hadn't been mentioned before?