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Don't get me wrong.  I'm not mad at all, and I respect your opinion as much as anyone's.  I'm just concerned that you're allowing this whole DC/Marvel thing to cloud your judgment.  If you honestly think you aren't, then that's absolutely fine.  You're a lot better at analyzing plot/movies/characterization than me, and when you and I disagree, I *often* wonder if I'm wrong.

They were talking about this stuff on the Weekly Planet.  Both guys have really enjoyed Marvel as opposed to DC, and DC people get mad at them (even accusing them of getting paid by Marvel to bash DC.  They laugh at that because they don't think they're big enough for anyone on either side to care).

We're three movies into the DCCU.  There's one that most people like (Man of Steel), one most people don't like (BvS) and one that is in the middle.  When the MCU was at this stage, they had one that most people like (Iron Man), one that most people don't like (the Incredible Hulk), and one that is in the middle (Iron Man 2).  If the DCCU was 10 movies deep when the MCU started, we'd be saying "wow, Iron Man was pretty good but fairly standard, and their last two haven't been very good."  It's all about perspective, in a way.

Rotten Tomatoes

Iron Man - 94 (critics) 91 (audience)
Incredible Hulk - 67 (critics) 71 (audience)
Iron Man 2 - 72 (critics) 72 (audience)

Man of Steel - 55 (critics) 75 (audience)
Batman v Superman - 27 (critics) 64 (audience)
Suicide Squad - 26 (critics) 67 (audience)

Three movies in, there's not much difference in fan ratings.  It's lower for DC, but it's not much lower.  It's just, as you've said all along, a *HUGE* disparity between audience and critics. 

It's just a matter of the MCU doing it first and this perception that Marvel has their s*** pulled together and DC doesn't.  Now, to be fair, no Marvel movie had an audience rating lower than 71 (Incredible Hulk).  DC already has two.  So it's not just a conspiracy of critics. 

I'll take a look at your actual points later.  Just wanted to make sure I said something before you thought I was actually mad.  Didn't mean to put words in your mouth - I often resort to hyperbole in times like this, and for that I apologize smile

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Wow.  He's moved his way up in this world.

"Go!  Go!"

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Informant, I honestly don't even know where to begin.  We've had our share of discussion on Marvel and DC, and I'm starting to wonder if you're allowing bias to affect your views on these movies.  I could go point-by-point, but I'm concerned we're just going to go in circles again.  I almost feel like you're doing a satire of the reviewers that torch DC movies because they aren't like Marvel.  Especially since you're using arguments that I've seen used (or that *I've* used) against movies like BvS and Suicide Squad.

The worst of the Captain America movies?  Worse than The First Avenger?  That's the movie, as far as I recall, that got you so mad about the MCU in the first place.  You called it a feature-length trailer for the Avengers. 

Could've been fixed by having the characters talk?  They do talk.  But the movie goes to great lengths to show that neither side is particularly right.  The Avengers do save people, but they do cause collateral damage.  They do need oversight, but the oversight could easily be just as bad as the people they're supposed to fight.  And there's tons of history to look back on for both sides.  I've said it earlier in the thread, but I felt like Tony's transformation from the guy at the Senate hearing in Iron Man 2 to the guy arguing for government oversight in Civil War is totally earned in my opinion.

Batman is the world's greatest detective but does almost no investigation into who Superman is.  A throwaway scene about a drone following Superman around in Man of Steel did more investigation than Batman did.  If Bruce had done the work that Lois did in the first movie, he'd realize that Clark Kent has been a pretty good guy his whole life.  End of movie.

Listen, I get it.  Marvel gets the benefit of the doubt and DC doesn't.  DC makes bigger effort to care about building something, and they've gotten hammered for it.  BvS and Civil War can make the same amount of money, and one is a failure and the other is a success.  It sucks to have to constantly defend these movies.  But all your reviews recently have been hyperbole - Suicide Squad is great, Civil War is crap. 

And, honestly, I don't think either of those reviews is what you really think.  Did you like Suicide Squad better?  Sure, and you're free to have that opinion.  But to give all DC movies 10/10 reviews and all Marvel 0/10 reviews makes you just as bad as the crazy people who do the opposite.

Just my $0.02.

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Interesting.  Well, I'm interested in seeing what you think.  I'm also looking to watch it again soon.  I saw a trailer today and it got me excited to see it again.

One thing: cracked did a photoplasty (which I can't link to right now) which points out the hypocrisy of Tony recruiting Peter to his side of "being open and honest with the public about superheroes" and then hands him this suit that shrouds his identity.

Its interesting because the Spider-Man stuff does seem to go against the rest of Tony's message.  There's clearly a difference between what Tony did at the end of Iron Man and what Peter would have to do, but I wonder if they could've alluded to the Peter Parker unmasking in the comics and done something dark with Tony in the mean time.

So Tony goes to Queens to get Peter.  Convinces him to go to Germany with him, and he convinces him that his moral argument is superior to Captain America's.  Cool.  But then Tony provides him a mask and helps him evade the curiosity of Aunt May.

Bug imagine this: Tony doesn't give him a suit.  He brings Peter along but doesn't give him a suit - maybe he upgrades his web shooters, but he's basically just in his civilian clothes (or maybe some body armor - no traditional mask).  And pretty much everyone (Team Cap and Team Iron Man alike) sees Peter and wonders why Tony would bring a kid to this battlefield, but Peter proves himself and they all sorta forget about it when the battle begins.

But then Peter gets in trouble and something happens to him (something falls on him?) and people think that he might be dead.  And Tony has this realization that he got this kid killed because of something he's not even sure he believes in.  Peter's okay, of course, but it sorta affects Tony for a minute.  And then, at the end, Tony delivers him a suit because he sorta understands that Peter can handle it but needs to be careful.

Could've been another way to handle Peter in the movie.

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She might just straight up stab him on national TV.

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If we elect Trump, a really fun consolation prize will be watching her.  She's either going to go off on the whole country or she's not even going to concede.  Like I said, must-see TV.

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Yeah, if Hillary really cared about beating Trump, she'd drop out.  Something like 60% of Trump supporters are only voting for him to keep her out of office.  She's historically unpopular, like him, and someone blander (like Tim Kaine) would be absolutely destroying Trump.

She wants to be President, and she's worked really heard to manuever herself into that position.  This is quite literally her last chance to do it, and I'm certain she's not going to go quietly into the night if she doesn't win.

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Again, just a hypothetical like Bartlet and his MS.

And I agree she'd keep running.  This is what she's worked her whole life towards, and she's not giving it up for any reason.  If she loses, her concession speech will be must-see TV because it might end up being the biggest political meltdown ever.  If people thought it was bad that she called millions of people "deplorables", you can just imagine what she'll say to the American public if she loses to Donald Trump and no longer has anything politically to lose.  She'd be the biggest laughing stock in American political history to lose to this buffoon.

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I was thinking of some of the Republican conspiracy theories (and watching the West Wing), and I have the following questions

HYPOTHETICAL (Again, I'm not a doctor and cannot judge.  This is a pure hypothetical) - If it was revealed that Hillary had Parkinson's:

1. Would she drop out?
2. If she didn't drop out, would she still win?
3. If she did drop out, would Tim Kaine replace her?
4. If she did drop out and Kaine didn't replace her, who would?

Because if she did withhold that information, I think she'd need to drop out.  Not because of the Parkinson's but because of the withholding.  Even when this happened in fiction (MS and Bartlet), he almost didn't run again.  And it affected his whole second term (and this was a guy universally loved.  Hillary ain't that).

If she still ran, I think she'd lose (for the reasons above).

If she did drop out, I think it'd need to be Kaine that replaced her.  Bernie might be a good choice for a VP (if he'd take it), but Kaine would be the best way to get the Hillary voters (since he was her choice) and keep Hillary's lead.

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He'd get no argument from me.

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Informant wrote:

The episode is a prime example of the 1990's network motto, "sex sells". They bent over backwards to turn their character into a sex kitten, putting her in revealing clothes and having her slink around, simply because they thought that some 13 year old boys would get a thrill from it.

Sliders was far from the biggest example of this trope, but it is one of the bigger examples of what went wrong with the series by that point. Storytelling went out the window in favor of cheap sexiness and trying to cash in on popular movies (in this case, Species)

Honest question because Voyager gets the same criticism:

Is it possible to exploit your female characters for their sexiness (Maggie, Seven of Nine, etc) and still tell a good story?  Or is the sexual exploitation always going to distract too much from the story?

Because, honestly, I only have one image of the Breeder and it's just Maggie in a silver dress looking seductive.  I can't remember anything else from the episode, and yet I regard it as one of the worst of the series.  I don't have any other reason.

Is there an example of a show/movie doing it without hurting quality?

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Ha, I just think it'd be funny.

I'd still prefer that Heaven and Hell just get closed for whatever reason.  So no angels and demons.  But they've had plenty of times they could've done that and didn't.  So I'm guessing that's not part of the plan.

Who do you dislike more: Crowley or Felicity? smile

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Well, I wouldn't make her a regular character.  Just Queen of Hell and she only makes appearances if necessary.  Outside of that, she keeps demons off their case.

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I mean I get that, but the cat's out of the bag.  Unless they did something permanent with the angels and demons (and the Angel/Demon Tablets were a way to do that), then I think they sorta have to include angel/demon stories.  Crowley would have a stake in a lot of the things the Winchesters do - as would Heaven.  If Crowley is dethroned, then it would need to be someone else.

I know you'd hate this, but it'd be kinda funny if Charlie ended up as the Queen of Hell.  They also could've put Amara in charge of Hell.  Either way, it'd be a true ally on the brothers' side and demons wouldn't be a problem.

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The Lucifer stuff could be cool if it's grounded.  He thought he was this big badass and now he's reduced to running from Crowley.  A humbled Devil could be cool.

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Possible spoilers....

Apparently this season will deal with hunters, and there's a chance that we'll see hunters from the past (living and maybe dead) return to the show.  This should make Informant happy if he reads it smile

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I don't love the costume, but I think he looks fine as Superman. 

Remember, you hated Cavill at first too wink

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Well, I can't really think of what they need to spend money on while they're in office.  I can't imagine it's much.

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I loved every episode.  Even some of the slower, weirder ones were really really cool.  I'm hoping they can keep up the momentum with that many episodes.

I'm convinced that we'll have that "memory" tech soon, and it's gonna mess with me smile

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Well, I've also maintained that the president should not get a salary.  Free room and board, free transportation, and you're set for life once you leave office in a hundred different ways.  Why are we paying them?

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Term limits is my number one pet peeve.  I think the president should be one, six-year term.  It allows him/her to get work done without ever having to worry about being elected.

If it were me, I'd also make congressional jobs one term.  No re-elections for any job.  If someone is great at something, they can then move and do something else.  Run for the House, do that job for 2-6 years, and then run for the senate for 4-8 years.  Then you can run for president.  Or mayor of some town.  Or governor of some state.  It doesn't matter.

You can be a career politician.  Lots of places need leadership.  But you cannot be a career congressman, and you shouldn't waste time in office running for office.

(If it were me, I'd also disallow concurrent running - so you have to wait an election cycle before running again.  Go work in the community.  Cleanse yourself from political slime.  Then come back if you still want to help people).

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Yeah but saying "she won't ever please anyone" doesn't mean she shouldn't try to please as many people as possible.  She's going to be the president of the United States - not the president of people that like her.  And even if people are going to hate her, she needs to be presidential.  She can't be insulting millions of Americans when she's trying to insult Donald Trump.

And the fact remains that she's almost 70 and she's been showing signs of illness.  And if she's truly going to be president for 4-8 years, we need to know if she's going to survive 4-8 years.  If she's getting exhausted by the campaign, won't being president be 10 times worse? 

And Hillary was the *youngest* of the final three people for President.  It makes you wonder if that job needs an age maximum.

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I agree.  I know she wants to hold out until he releases whatever, but she's going to be president.  If she wants us to trust her, she needs to rise above Trump and not answer everything "well, he's not doing it so I shouldn't have to."

She should release her medical records, the Wall Street transcripts, and anything else people want.  It shouldn't just be about being better than Donald Trump.  The bar to be president should be higher than that, even if this election isn't.

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With Hillary's little health episode today, I learned that Democrats and Republicans in New York City feel weather differently (Republicans thought it was a lovely day and Democrats thought it was over 100 and super humid), and that a lot of Hillary supporters have fainted many times in their lives.  Republicans never faint and are bedridden whenever they have pneumonia.

1. I'm not a doctor and cannot tell via 20 seconds of videos whether Hillary has pneumonia, heat stroke, or Parkinson's.  I'm glad to know so many people on the Internet are.

2. Hillary isn't a hero for going to an event with pneumonia.  Yes, I saw this said many times.

3. Her health is absolutely relevant.  As is Trump's.  And Johnson's and Stein's and Kaine's and anyone else in this election.  Whether it affects voters is a completely different issue.

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Ah, I was about to be really impressed!

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Did you paint those?

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I'm just wondering what his most lasting memory is of the show.  I wonder what, if anything, his first thought about it would be.  Something generic like "working with great people" or if a specific scene or episode really sticks out for him.

For a lot of people, acting is just work.  I know Cleavant cared about the show more than, say, Robert Floyd, but I'm just curious what, again if anything, his memory of Sliders is.

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Transmodiar wrote:

Put Gary Johnson in there so it can be a real vote.

Unfortunately, Rickman sucked out his brain juice prior to the election.

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This is clearly just for fun.  No one is allowed to get offended or say anything that would cause someone to otherwise be offended.

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Important BBoard Election

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The Johnson stuff, to me, is irrelevant.  He's not a serious contender for the President, and as a 3rd party candidate, his only role in this election is to push his party's agenda.  And his party's agenda is mostly domestic.  So it honestly doesn't matter what his thoughts are on Syria because, in the long run, it doesn't matter.

As a former journalist, I was also a bit disturbed by the way that question was phrased.  “What would you do if you were elected about Aleppo?", to me, is a question designed specifically to get the response that Johnson gave.  Because the question had little to do with the city of Aleppo and more to do with the Syrian refugee issue as a whole.  It would be like asking "What are you going to do about Raqqa?" when you're actually asking what you would do about ISIS.

Regarding Putin, Trump is an idiot, but Putin isn't going away.  So what should be the US' policy on Russia?  If you go to Hillary's website, there's a ton of issues she talks about.  Nothing in there about Russia.  So while they're saying Trump would let Putin bully him, what's the alternative?  World War 3?  A second cold war?

There's thoughts that Putin in supporting Trump because he's worried about Hillary.  She's a known war hawk who's already responsible for the death of one of Putin's allies (Gaddafi), and who's openly wanted to get rid of another of one his allies (Assad).  And while "a bad person with bad friends is afraid of her!" sounds like a great reason to vote for Hillary, do we really want a scared Vladamir Putin?  Is that really in the best interests of anyone in the world?

Again, Trump is an idiot, but it's another instance where I'm not sure Hillary really looks much better.  It's just a terrible election with two terrible candidates.

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You already had an entire episode featuring Mallory as Quinn's conscience.  There's nowhere to go but up wink

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Haha, well as we discussed privately, I hope you find the time to finish up.  I rather liked the last part and look forward to the conclusion.

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I saw that the other day.  Funny stuff.  I think the cast of these movies genuinely likes doing it.  It's going to be really interesting when all their contracts are up.  Chris Evans, after inferring that he'd stop after his contract is up (and maybe stop acting entirely) has indicated that he'd be interested in playing more Captain America.  I think RDJ will continue as long as they keep paying him.  And if those guys decide to quit, there's backups in place.

The movies may be for kids, but it's a really well-oiled machine.

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I know why they did, but they shouldn't have included any movie characters in the show.  It should've been kept separate.  Ripples are fine, but there shouldn't be anyone major from the movies (except Fury) for these guys to interact with.

That way, it would be separate, which is what they want.

Instead, they're splitting hairs and it doesn't make sense.  Tony should know that Phil is alive.  So should Cap.  At the very least, those two should know.  And right now would be the perfect time to reveal that.  Cap is in the wind with half the team.  No one else on the team now even knew Coulson.  So either get RDJ to film a cameo on Skype (PHIL!  WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME YOU WERE ALIVE) or have Coulson say he just got off the phone with Stark and he was pissed.

Problem solved.  Saying that no one knows he's alive is stupid.  Even for the MCU.

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http://www.superherohype.com/news/38157 … f-the-dceu

Hopefully "no connective tissue" doesn't mean it's not part of the universe.  Even if there's no other characters or interactions, I don't see a point in having a selectively connected cinematic universe.  Forcing a Bruce Wayne cameo is stupid - just flat-out saying it's a different universe would be just as stupid IMO.

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The next season of Agents of SHIELD could be interesting, but I can't believe they're still trying to convince the world that Coulson is dead.  He's been working in the open for years now.  I could see how Joe Q Public doesn't know he's alive, but people *freaked out* at the idea of Bruce Wayne appearing in one random French cafe for five minutes in Dark Knight Rises. 

Coulson was apparently the big death in the biggest attack in history.  People don't recognize him?  And everyone in the government knows he's alive but Tony and company never figured it out?  Steve doesn't know?

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Well, it's just one of those things.  These types of universes are sometimes built solely on the star power of the star playing a character.  Would the MCU be the same if Tom Cruise had been cast as Tony Stark?  Downey Jr.  has been very willing to do cameos and restructure his contract (granted, for a lot of money) to be the face of the MCU.  Would Cruise have done the same?  If Iron Man is just a sorta standard superhero film, does the MCU even take off?  Everything was sorta riding on that movie, and RDJ was a big part of it succeeding.

The same with the DCCU.  What if Jesse Eisenberg had played Jimmy in BvS, as was the original plan?  What if they'd hired the fan's idea of Bryan Cranston as Lex?  If Lex was a better villain, would BvS have been better received?  Would Lex have a bigger part in the MCU (would they have had time to add him to, say, Suicide Squad)?

Same thing about Affleck.  He's basically going to be in every DCCU movie because he's been so well received.  But what if we got 2003 Daredevil Affleck as Bruce Wayne?  Or if they'd cast a young unknown (which would've been my idea) and that actor dropped the ball?  Would Batman have still made the cut of Suicide Squad?  Would he be cameoing in Wonder Woman?  Probably not.

Stuff like that is interesting to me.

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http://www.superherohype.com/news/38146 … d#/slide/1

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pilight wrote:

I answered 'Earth Prime' and it seemed to accept that

Ha, that's funny.  Well done smile

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ireactions wrote:

I'm not sure why the Bboard is forcing everyone to answer the questions; I've disabled that for now and I'll watch to see if this leads to more spambot registrations.

There was one night where I answered questions for literally 30-40 times until I just gave up (since the conversion from Sliders questions to "Hello" and "Earth" questions).  But since that time, it's worked perfectly.  I get questions every couple times, and it's only made me answer one (and on occasion, twice).

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I finally finished this.  I really liked it. I thought it was well done, and I actually liked the child actors.  And while the children were good, it wasn't all about them.  Everyone in the series really got a chance to be heroic which I liked. 

I was also surprised at how much people were surprised about the news of a second season with the same cast/storyline.  The story was definitely set up and written to continue.  Yeah, there's closure if the show wasn't popular, but there's also a ton left open. 

Even if they went anthology, I'd like things to be set in this same universe.  I think there's a lot left to explore in terms of the "Upside Down" and the experiments being done to kids like Eleven.

Thumbs up from me!

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Yeah but she claims the emails she was deleting were about yoga and weddings.  Regular deleting works pretty well for that stuff, right?

And the hammer just seems excessive.  Why not hydrochloric acid?  Or having Elon Musk shoot it into the sun? 

It just adds to the Hillary dichotomy.  She'll pay a ton of money to permanently delete emails about yoga, but she uses a $3 hammer to destroy a Blackberry with national security information on it.

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I think Jeb would beat her.  He's not great, but Hillary wouldn't have much to pin on him.  She's running a 100% negative campaign because there isn't much positive to say about her.  Christie would have a similar problem to Trump.

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That's exactly right.  What's crazy is that the Republicans are already making moves to "rig" their next election, and the Democrats don't really have their next guy lined up.  The Democratic Party has spent the last 16 years trying to set up Hillary Clinton for a run that I'm guessing we'll have a wide-open field next time.  Bernie will probably be dead and Tim Kaine would be 66 this time around if Hillary wins two terms.

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The BleachBit stuff in the FBI reports is the stuff I found the most damning because I'd only heard Republicans saying it before that.  I even searched on Snopes to verify if it was a real thing that happened.  But....yep, she paid a ton of money to permanently delete emails and had staffers smash her Blackberrys with a hammer.  That sounds like the work of a drug dealer flushing all his drugs down the toilet.

I still can't believe she's running against Donald Trump.  This should be the easiest election the Republicans ever had, and they've completely blown it.

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Well, she said she was never trained on it.  But handling classified information is a decent part of the Secretary of State, right?  Wouldn't she ask questions?  What keeps coming back to me is that this wasn't a job she ever took seriously.  She didn't want to handle matters of state - she wanted the job to put on her presidential resume and nothing more.  It's why she accomplished practically nothing and even members of the State department can't name a single thing she accomplished that was noteworthy.  It was a paperboy job your kid gets so he can buy a bike and then quits as soon as it's bought.

I go back and forth with her in my mind as either a cunning, devious, power-hungry monster.  And then when I read the FBI report (and I read the whole thing), she just comes off as an idiot.  She just sorta floated around in the State department not really understanding what was happening and not really understanding what she was supposed to do.  I can see her setting up this private server to do all kind of backroom deals, and I can also see her spending all this money because someone tricked her into doing it.

It's mutually exclusive, I know.  And I struggle with which side she actually falls on.  Is she a liar or does she actually not know the answer to any of these questions?

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So the next president of the United States didn't know that (C) in emails stood for classified at the confidential level.

C is for cookie.  That's good enough for her.

We are electing someone with the brain of cookie monster.  Sigh.

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Well, the only thing is that he got billing (in the credits that were released) second.  Ahead of everyone but Will Smith.  That doesn't always mean anything, but it does usually mean something.  The example I keep thinking of is Scream with Drew Barrymore, but 1) that was done as a surprise because she dies so early and 2) she's still the final "and" billing on the poster (5th spot).

For Leto to be 2nd billing, he'd either need to be paid the 2nd highest (which is possible even if he's not the 2nd star) or he's the 2nd biggest character.  And, again, just based on material that made it into the trailers, there's enough to think that maybe he was a much bigger character.  Maybe even as big as Harley (Leto is ahead of Robbie, who's easily a top two character in this movie, and she's arguably a bigger star than him).

So maybe they sold him as a big enough force in this movie and in Harley's backstory that he could be 2nd billing.   And if he was sold that, then I could see why he was upset.  If he wasn't sold that, I can't really explain why he'd be second billing.  He both doesn't have that big of an impact on the narrative and doesn't have the screen time to warrant that.

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I haven't seen the video yet, but does it discount the idea that they aren't doing the Asylum movie?  There were a ton of rumors about that.

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http://www.superherohype.com/news/38080 … s#/slide/1

A couple interesting tidbits from this:

1) It provides the first visual evidence (that I've seen) that Harley was involved in Robin's death.  Although it says "accomplice" - she didn't do it (as was previously reported).  Since she's Joker's accomplice, that makes sense.  And based on how she reacted when she found out about Diablo's crime, she might've even been an unwilling accomplice.  Changes things a tad.

2) I didn't notice this, but Jared Leto was second billing in the end credits, ahead of Margot Robbie.  Considering how many scenes were seemingly cut (based on scenes not in the trailer and leaked scene descriptions), that both makes sense from a credits perspective (which were probably made before the movie was completely edited and/or were based on contractual obligations which were signed before the movie was completely edited) and explains why Leto is so upset.  He was signed as second-billing and gets a wandering 10 minutes of screentime.

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They can probably salvage Ant-Man.  Everyone loves Ant-Man.

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Or, alternatively, Marvel is so scared about the success of the BvS Ultimate Cut and Suicide Squad that they're going into full panic mode.  And since their movies are so cartoony, they turned to a comedic writer to make everything brighter and funnier.

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Yes!

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If Hillary were running against any politician, this email story would've been the end of her campaign.  Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Ryan....name the guy, they'd beat her.  But no one cares about the emails because she's running against someone who's universally seen as worse.

Trump is getting one percent of the African American vote.  This race should be mathematically impossible due to that fact alone.  But it isn't...because she's a really terrible candidate.

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And, finally, the reason I'm here.  I had to answer the board question about 8 times when I posted in the DC thread.  I had to answer the Wade one about four times in a row.  Did something change or did I have bad luck?

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ireactions wrote:

No, I'm just kidding. Earth214 is a charming piece of work, but it was written by a teenager. SLIDERS REBORN is written by an adult who thinks like a teenager. When reading Earth214, I felt that the writing was terrible but the underlying concept, intentions, plots, ideas and overall direction were very well thought out -- it's just that the ability to deliver all that in an engaging, convincing and stirring format wasn't quite there yet. It's like Slider_Quinn21 had the raw talent but needed a few more English classes and maybe some screenwriting software. SQ21 says he's done with 214, but I still maintain that going through and rewriting it -- not the story, but the language and descriptions and dialogue -- would turn it from a charming artifact of youth into something very strong. Earth214 is like a very rough statue that just needs a few more sessions to finish chiseling it into something spectacular.

I don't disagree with any of this, and that's actually been my biggest struggle as a writer.  I feel like I have solid ideas but just an awful translation from brain to paper/screen.  I'm working on my second novel, and I love the story but get bored my some of my own writing.  Which is....bad. 

I have a dozen ideas that I absolutely *love* and want to get out there, and I'm considering putting them in a collection of short stories.  I think a lot of them would do better in a full version in someone else's hands, and if I can do some sort of Phillip K. Dick stories, maybe a handful of talented writers can make the next generation of Blade Runner/High Castle/Minority Report/etc.

Not that I'm anywhere near as good or talented or creative as Phillip K. Dick.  But you know, I can dream.

PS - I just checked my email, Ib.  On it.

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maxcardun wrote:

PS:  Hey Slider_Quinn21  If I gave your Season 6 & 7 some minor grammar fixes and some theme openings for Earth 214, perhaps a better reason for Quinn to be mean with Maggie and some other stuff do you think you could add it to your 214 Site?

Ah, yikes, I didn't even know this was here.

And I think it's awesome that you've read E214 and had enough interest to think about alternate reasons.  That's freakin' awesome.  I'm surprised it's still out there - I wrote that as a teenager a really long time ago, and there are parts of it that really make me cringe.  But there's also a ton I'm really proud of.

The short answer to that question is no, simply because I don't have access to the site.  Blinker is who always updated the site, and I don't know where he is.

If you want to email me, I'd be happy to talk with you about your changes.  Again, I'd love to hear what you have to think.

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I agree.  But this is the ultimate time for Easter Eggs, hints, etc, and there's just nothing in the three movies to indicate that Batman ever had another partner.  There's a Robin Easter Egg in both BvS and Suicide Squad, but there's nothing else.  And in this age of hints and teases and after credits scenes and ultimate editions, you gotta think they'd throw something in if the Bat-Family was going to be used at all.

I hope I'm wrong too.

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You wouldn't need a Dick subplot.  Any line of dialogue in a 3-hour movie would hint at a larger world.  It happens all the time.  I mean, heck, it happens a ton *in the movie*.  We got teases of Aquaman, Flash, and Cyborg without any special subplots.  We got hints of Bruce in Man of Steel.  A cool Flash cameo in Suicide Squad.

And it wouldn't have been forced.  We know that Bruce isn't acting like himself.  We know that Alfred is worried about him to the point where it seems like he's about to quit on him.  These are all times when someone (Alfred, probably) could point how history is repeating itself.  Or how people care about him.  Or how he's not in this alone.

Not mentioning anything about it, in my opinion, seems like a conscious effort to say that nothing is there.  Again, I hope I'm wrong.  But no Nightwing casting for Justice League.  And if the Batman solo film is entirely in Arkham then we probably won't get any Bat-Family characters there either.  Red Hood could be coming, but you just need one Robin for that. 

I'm guessing they'll go the simple route and the route that makes most sense to the public.  There was one Robin, Dick Grayson.  He died and then he came back as Red Hood.