Don't get me wrong. I'm not mad at all, and I respect your opinion as much as anyone's. I'm just concerned that you're allowing this whole DC/Marvel thing to cloud your judgment. If you honestly think you aren't, then that's absolutely fine. You're a lot better at analyzing plot/movies/characterization than me, and when you and I disagree, I *often* wonder if I'm wrong.
They were talking about this stuff on the Weekly Planet. Both guys have really enjoyed Marvel as opposed to DC, and DC people get mad at them (even accusing them of getting paid by Marvel to bash DC. They laugh at that because they don't think they're big enough for anyone on either side to care).
We're three movies into the DCCU. There's one that most people like (Man of Steel), one most people don't like (BvS) and one that is in the middle. When the MCU was at this stage, they had one that most people like (Iron Man), one that most people don't like (the Incredible Hulk), and one that is in the middle (Iron Man 2). If the DCCU was 10 movies deep when the MCU started, we'd be saying "wow, Iron Man was pretty good but fairly standard, and their last two haven't been very good." It's all about perspective, in a way.
Rotten Tomatoes
Iron Man - 94 (critics) 91 (audience)
Incredible Hulk - 67 (critics) 71 (audience)
Iron Man 2 - 72 (critics) 72 (audience)
Man of Steel - 55 (critics) 75 (audience)
Batman v Superman - 27 (critics) 64 (audience)
Suicide Squad - 26 (critics) 67 (audience)
Three movies in, there's not much difference in fan ratings. It's lower for DC, but it's not much lower. It's just, as you've said all along, a *HUGE* disparity between audience and critics.
It's just a matter of the MCU doing it first and this perception that Marvel has their s*** pulled together and DC doesn't. Now, to be fair, no Marvel movie had an audience rating lower than 71 (Incredible Hulk). DC already has two. So it's not just a conspiracy of critics.
I'll take a look at your actual points later. Just wanted to make sure I said something before you thought I was actually mad. Didn't mean to put words in your mouth - I often resort to hyperbole in times like this, and for that I apologize