There could be a reason why working class voters didn't vote Democrat for president that isn't about why working class voters didn't vote Democrat for president? What kind of tangled convolution is that?
241 2024-12-14 18:47:51
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
242 2024-12-14 18:30:19
Re: Star Trek in Film and TV (and The Orville, too!) (746 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I see we continue our habit of judging and dismissing a series sight unseen.
243 2024-12-13 14:59:04
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Here's an interesting article offering a view on why Kamala Harris and her campaign from wealthy Uber executives and such did not resound with working class people:
https://jacobin.com/2024/12/democrats-o … linton-dlc
244 2024-12-13 07:27:27
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Continuing ruminations on why Democrats lost the election in 2024.
https://www.salon.com/2024/12/13/democr … nt-truths/
"The working-class voters Vice President Kamala Harris’s presidential campaign needed were not moved by talk of joy. They were too angry about feeling broke."
245 2024-12-12 16:59:38
Re: Star Trek in Film and TV (and The Orville, too!) (746 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
The 2009 movie where Scotty nearly drowns in the watercooling pipes after a transporter mishap struck me as the moment when STAR TREK seemed to re-embrace comedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSGV2kFhZvU&t=348s
The moment where STRANGE NEW WORLDS seemed to re-embrace comedy on TV for me was the Enterprise Bingo segment in Season 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH4GjcAIvV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p27sDWHBksg
246 2024-12-12 15:52:26
Re: Star Trek in Film and TV (and The Orville, too!) (746 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
LOWER DECKS is good. I'm disappointed that it's ending so soon. It looks like the show has hit a point where it's brought in all the new subscribers it can, and they need to shift to a new show to bring in new subscribers.
The original STAR TREK was a very silly show at the start and at the finish, but with some over-serious grimdark misery in the middle. TNG began the trend of TREK becoming Serious Science Fiction, albeit with some straight-laced humour. But it's not until Season 4 of ENTEPRRISE and the 2009 STAR TREK rebootquel that goofy humour came back into the series. DISCOVERY was grimdark too, but LOWER DECKS and STRANGE NEW WORLDS finally brought comedy back into full force.
247 2024-12-09 19:47:15
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I feel like if this was Smallville: the Later Years, the show would be fairly similar. I think Clark wouldn't be Superman, having retired, but I think he may still do work for Sam Lane and the DOD. I think it would be Clark and Lois retiring to Smallville to raise their kids in peace with Clark wanting a quieter life. The plot of the show is mostly about Clark Kent anyway so I don't think you'd need to change much. And if Tom Welling wanted to wear the suit, I think they could've played it exactly like Superman & Lois did. If they didn't want to, Clark could still stay in the action in his flannel.
I really don't think much would really change. And now I'm a little sad we didn't get that, as much as I liked the show as we got it
Well, I think, in this scenario, Tom would have to wear the suit, but SMALLVILLE VOLUME 2 would still have Clark and Lois returning to Smallville after being unceremoniously laid off or fired from the Daily Planet.
248 2024-12-05 19:59:12
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Here's an interesting thought experiment: what if SUPERMAN AND LOIS had featured Tom Welling and Erica Durance?
SMALLVILLE was about Clark as a teenager to their mid-20s. What if Tom Welling and Erica Durance returned to play Clark and Lois in their mid to late 40s? And of course, the continuity and cast of Seasons 1 - 10 would be retained, so Luthor would be Michael Rosenbaum, Sam Lane would be Michael Ironside, and Clark has already fought Bizarro and Doomsday.
What could have stayed the same and what would have had to change? What would have been the story of Clark from his teenaged years to his 70s?
249 2024-12-04 16:42:29
Re: Star Wars: Movies and Shows on Disney+ and More (330 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I am super-behind on STAR WARS and I honestly don't know if I'll ever get caught up. I never got around to watching CLONE WARS and I'm currently rewatching the MTV SCREAM series. However, I'm sorry TV has been a mixed bag. It does seem like a waste of time to set so much TV during the short-lived period of the New Republic when we know it all ends in Luke giving up and becoming a hermit. It seems like TV is trying to stay out of the way and leave a clean slate for that new Rey feature film, a bit like the ABC and Netflix Marvel shows trying to steer clear of the movies' territory.
The theme park rides sound like a lot of fun! Did you get to interact with any of the performers playing the characters?
I remember riding the Star Tours ride at Universal Studios a lot when I was a child. I'm sure the experiences today are even more advanced, immersive and compelling.
250 2024-12-04 15:04:27
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
A rumination on how Democrats have not evolved to face structural changes in states and electorate, which led to defeat in 2024 and will lead to even more if they don't make urgent changes.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/democratic … nationally
251 2024-12-03 19:35:43
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I did want more of John Henry and Nat and longed for their return... but the show camouflaged it well enough and made it so that the absences, as you said, felt more like story focus than cast unavailability. It'd be interesting to rewatch the series and see which ones are the big budget ones and which ones have been budget-reduced. Certainly, the premiere and the finale are the big spenders.
252 2024-12-03 17:43:56
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
It was really good. Overall, it was a modern SUPERMAN movie in four chapters. Season 4 did a good job of shifting around the budget to maintain the cinematic flair for enough episodes that the smaller budgeted ones worked as a breather.
Ever since the first season, I'd been musing that Clark could do more for the world with a charitable foundation than with supersaves, so I liked seeing that play out in the finale.
253 2024-12-03 17:42:18
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
QuinnSlidr will get an automatic email on Wednesday morning with his login details.
God help me.
254 2024-12-02 09:59:20
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Back to the subject at hand:
Joe Biden betrayed his promise. He vowed a separation of private concerns and public good, promising that he would not pardon his son Hunter. He broke his word.
I don't blame him at all. I totally agree with all the moral and ethical criticisms of what he has done. But given the impending Trump presidency, I cannot blame Biden for taking every step possible to protect his family from the Trump-steered Department of Justice and FBI. It's morally and ethically wrong, as laid out in the parameters set by Biden himself -- but it shows how much Biden must fear the Trump presidency and how short on options, hope, and belief in America he is at this point.
Biden has decided that the shattering of his moral principles and his political legacy at this point is happening regardless of what he does or doesn't do, and has elected to save his son. I hope all fathers would do the same for their children, but it shows how truly dark the world has become.
My father once told me, "Son, if you robbed a bank, I wouldn't hire a lawyer for you, but I would visit you in jail." However, I'd like to think that if my dad thought I'd be targeted for more than just the crimes I committed, he'd come to my aid.
At the same time, I have a lot of room for the views of those who point out that Biden has turned his back on his own declared standards of right and wrong and betrayed the public trust with his actions.
255 2024-12-02 09:50:15
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Out of love, gratitude and respect for Slider_Quinn21, QuinnSlidr's ban will be lifted on Wednesday morning (Eastern Time).
But my mental health really cannot handle any more discussions getting derailed into unproven conspiracy theories and weird accusations of insufficient loyalty to Democrats or fealty to Republicans for the crime of criticizing Democrats and how they lost the election. There probably isn't a single poster here whom QuinnSlidr hasn't accused of treachery or fascism because they didn't buy into his talking points. I only have so much energy in a day and shouldn't be devoting so much of it to monitoring and moderating and addressing this behaviour. I have a day job and my mother needs a lot of attention and care. The only reason I am posting right now is because I am ill at home for the day after my COVID vaccination.
Out of deference to Slider_Quinn21, the ban will be lifted on Wednesday. Because, well, I respect Slider_Quinn21 and I am honour-bound to try things his way even if I foresee only exhaustion and grief waiting for me.
256 2024-12-02 08:09:17
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
This is yet another example of you trying to weasel out of your behaviour: you focus on your most recent harassment and minimize or deny it while avoiding how you have a lengthy history of harassment.
Your history includes accusing someone with doubts about Biden of being a Trump supporter; accusing someone who disliked a speech from a black person of being racist; accusing someone who reported Kamala Harris' 2024 loss of being ignorant for reporting basic facts of public record; accusing anyone who didn't buy into unproven election denialism of being a Trump supporter; accusing someone trying to have a serious discussion about pardon powers of demanding respect for Republicans.
You have also repeatedly posted election misinformation to intimidate anyone with criticisms of Democrat politicians and campaigns. You falsely insist that Democrats won. You do this deliberately to make people uncomfortable criticizing Democratic strategy and hesitant to say that Kamala Harris lost the election; you want them to fear your misinformation and accusations.
You are a serial harasser. Your defense is to claim that whatever harassment you engaged in most recently didn't happen while ignoring the massive track record of harassment behind you. It is perfectly clear at this point that despite multiple warnings, you have no intention of curtailing this behaviour.
This track record of repeated harassment and intimidation both overt and subtle is why you are no longer welcome to post here.
257 2024-12-01 22:39:41
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
dYou have repeatedly accused anyone who doesn't share your political talking points of being a Trump supporter or a Republican, and now you have done the same with me. I tried to have a sensible, serious discussion about Biden's use of his pardon power, you turned it into another campaign of accusing another poster, in this case, me:
I will never respect a republican. Ever. Again.
I didn't tell you to respect Republicans. I am absolutely sick of your harassment. You have repeatedly mischaracterized other people's posts, deliberately and willfully.
On multiple occasions, you have falsely accused posters of being racists or Republicans and Trump supporters when they didn't share your talking points of choice or weren't as fervently supportive of the Democratic National Party as you demanded.
You have harassed people for reporting that Kamala Harris lost the election and for not buying into your unproven conspiracy theories.
You are now harassing me by claiming that I demand you respect Republicans when I try to discuss how much threat Biden must see in Trump for Biden to pardon his son Hunter.
This is a clear pattern of harassment in your behaviour.
You have been warned about all your forms of harassment repeatedly, you have been warned that any further harassment in any form will lead to a ban and I am sick of warning you.
This is your final warning, I will not speak to you about it again.
258 2024-12-01 20:55:19
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I am raising a serious subject of threat and danger, morality and ethics, and you are making light of it.
You are deliberately mischaracterizing a call for serious discussion as a demand to respect Republicans, and your mischaracterization is obvious and ridiculous.
Your LOLs are completely inappropriate for the subject matter at hand. If you can't discuss serious subjects seriously, go somewhere else.
259 2024-12-01 20:20:08
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I was not asking you to respect Republicans; I was asking you to show some respect for how Trump is going to use law enforcement agencies to target Democrats and their families and take the threat seriously instead of treating it like a joke.
260 2024-12-01 19:59:39
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
You are treating this like a joke. You are fixated on mockery and ridicule.
Trump is trying to have deranged loyalists run the Department of Justice and the FBI and they would most certainly pursue Biden's son for revenge. Biden's family and everyone who's ever opposed Trump -- the Clintons, the Bidens, Jack Smith, Gretchen Whitmer -- they're all going to be targets.
Show some respect and take it seriously.
261 2024-12-01 19:09:49
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Biden pardoned Hunter.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/president-joe … =116358693
He broke his morals, he broke his code, he broke his ethics, he had no choice. Trump is coming after the Bidens, he had to try to save his son.
262 2024-11-30 19:42:45
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Probably not Allison Mack!
263 2024-11-30 12:17:28
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Now that it's been six months since I had COVID-19, I am getting my next dose of the COVID vaccine on Sunday.
264 2024-11-30 11:44:53
Re: Thoughts on Sliders in Random (194 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Thank you for sharing these, Grizzlor. Always good to see your neat finds and to see Zicree, especially after Torme's passing.
265 2024-11-28 17:03:15
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Despite a budget-strapped season, SUPERMAN AND LOIS has been pretty solid and effective at making the isolated episodes with lavish effects feel spectacular enough that the quieter, cheaper episodes are also okay.
There's a lot more happening that I hope to type about in the next few days.
266 2024-11-25 00:50:21
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Here, someone rages about how Democrats fail to offer precarious workers anything.
In the months leading up to the election, The New Republic, The Atlantic, The Guardian, and CNN (those are just the ones I tend to look at) ran a constant parade of articles glibly talking about how awesome the economy is, and how stupid and foolish Americans are to be unhappy with the current state of affairs. Look at the articles; the language could hardly be more condescending.
This is while large swaths of the population are struggling to buy groceries, can never hope to buy a house, can never get started on an independent life, are working ourselves into the ground, and have much less economic status than our parents and grandparents did. Every day we see the contrast between what the elites have and what we don’t. And what little relief we may have felt in our bank accounts during the Covid years has dried up. These celebratory, condescending articles deny what people are living through every day, and they explicitly sneer at people for voicing our plain experience. This is called gaslighting.
I feel that a lot of what circulates in the liberal media bubble is shaped by the fact that most of the writers have never faced eviction, have never been threatened by a rogue cop or an enemy soldier, have never lost the family farm, have never been required to choose between dignity and safety, have never been told that they have to revise their viewpoints if they want to keep a job that they need to survive. You don’t understand our priorities, and you simply don’t see most of the country; you’ve banished us for being too uncouth, and we’ve become invisible. At least until you need someone to make your food, fix your car, or deliver your packages. You simply can’t grasp how residually angry people are, how silenced they feel, or how much we need action and meaningful solutions.
Yes, this includes the specific anger of women and the specific anger of minorities. Obviously. But why should we be angrier with Trump than with the Democrats? The Democrats are the ones who lied and sneered at us and piled on the B.S. while doing basically nothing to help. Trump, for better or worse, intuitively understands this anger and can convincingly claim that he will do some kind of something to try to make it better. The Democrats can’t say that. I mean, they can say it, but nobody’s going to believe them, because all they’ve given us for decades is haughty “messaging” that never translates into substantial, meaningful, fair, and broad-based action. People talk about how Trump is going to take away our rights, and that may well be true, but it’s hard to even care about it when our rights are already thoroughly tiered, hardly existent, and contingent on constricting identity claims, and when every day we confront the stark inequality and looming precarity of our lives.
https://newrepublic.com/article/188669/ … everything
267 2024-11-24 13:19:51
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Democrats seemed to think in 2020 that Trump was a spent force and weren't too concerned about disqualifying or imprisoning him.
That was clearly a mistake.
268 2024-11-23 19:17:01
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
On a podcast, Mark Guggenheim was asked: why didn't the CRISIS finale episode show the SMALLVILLE universe to confirm that Clark and Lois were still alive and well and not destroyed?
Mark Guggenheim:
Why didn’t we have SMALLVILLE? I’ll be honest with you. I think it was two reasons.
Number 1: it never occurred to me until I got the question on Twitter that people think we did blow up the SMALLVILLE universe. So part of it was that, and part of it was, we had obviously seen Clark and Lois in episode 2. For the most part, the ‘going around the horn’ was to see all the universes and all the characters that we didn’t get to see.
If I could have done it all over again, it would be awesome to just have a shot of Lois and Clark on the farm, kissing, for the go-around-the-horn-sequence. But yeah, sorry, I dropped the ball on that!
We only had Tom for a few hours, but also, here's the thing: under SAG rules, an actor don't get paid by the amount of time they spend on set. They get paid by the number of episodes they are in. So if Tom was contracted for episode 2, and if Tom appeared in episode 5, that would trigger a completely different payment.
We certainly didn’t have the money for that, but that really wasn’t a factor. It, quite frankly, just didn’t occur to me.
269 2024-11-23 17:17:30
Re: Smallville (140 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I've been pondering the Doomsday scenario -- and my conclusion that it might have been best if Davis Bloome's beast had not been called Doomsday and instead called Ruin or World Killer or Armageddon or even just "the Beast".
The problem is that "Doomsday" in the Superman mythology has a certain brand identity, and that brand identity is defined by SUPERMAN #75 where every page is a full-page panel and 90 percent of the issue is Superman fighting Doomsday.
The name is synonymous with an extended superpowered brawl, and despite SMALLVILLE clearly conveying that Doomsday is largely offscreen, too big for the camera, only ever going to be shown in obscured or dimly lit or appendage-focused shots -- it simply couldn't overcome the brand expectation of the name "Doomsday".
It might have been best to call "the Beast" and describe it as "an early surviving prototype of the Doomsday project" to explain that this wasn't the full-blown Doomsday but an earlier model from Zod's deranged genetics experiments.
But I concede that the SMALLVILLE writers probably saw the mythic power of the Doomsday name, and thought they could explain what fans could expect clearly. They... couldn't.
270 2024-11-22 19:03:36
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
If Democrats can get their act together, resistance is not futile, says this article where Donald Trump's total inability to run government is already showing itself again:
https://www.salon.com/2024/11/22/resist … d-against/
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the advice, "When they go low, we go high" conceptually, but not every piece of advice applies to every situation at all times. Republicans understand something Democrats don't: politics is not, despite all appearances, playing bridge at the club. It's a knife fight in a sewer.
271 2024-11-21 20:48:11
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
There's certainly a lot of disagreement in Democrat circles. Did they swing too far to the right in pursuing Republican voters? Has the Democrat party moved too far to the left in cultural attitudes? Has going too far one way or the other or not far enough cost them the capacity to become a majoritarian party?
I am not sure, but all of these contradictory and opposing takes have mostly one commonality: the working class is a the voting bloc that Democrats need to pursue instead of Never Trumpers or women or minorities or specific communities. People who work for a living are in sufficient numbers to vote Democrats into office and while these other groups have serious deprivations in civil liberties and societal (in)equalities, their numbers are like SLIDERS fandom -- not large enough to go mainstream for majoritarian success.
The other key factor that I've mentioned before that keeps coming up: the majority of voters are not getting their news from pro-democracy sources like MSNBC or Slate.com or The New Republic or even newspapers and TV news. They're getting their news from social media: podcasts and influencers. The Democratic Party in 2024 seemed to barely exist here while Republicans seemed to rule that space. If Democrats want to win elections, they need to start existing in a louder, wider, larger network of pro-democracy news media and social media that's present and prominent even when there isn't an election.
I am really hoping this post will not receive a response insisting that the defeated Democrats in 2024 are a majoritarian success by some Byzantine metric of something or other that doesn't correspond to reality.
272 2024-11-20 19:14:42
Re: Smallville (140 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I'm rewatching Season 9 of SMALLVILLE and "Roulette" is a very interesting and ambitious episode. But there's one moment that really jumps out to me as TV perfection -- at one point, Oliver, in the middle of a downward spiral, is trapped in a police interrogation room, having watched his bank accounts hacked and emptied while the room fills with gas. Oliver pounds on the locked door, screams for helps, falls over -- when suddenly, the wall with the door is ripped backwards. Oliver scrambles to his feet in a panic and someone grabs him by both shoulders, holding him up. It's Clark.
"I could hear you yelling," Clark says, and Tom Welling is an effortlessly reassuring, comforting presence to Oliver's terror and confusion. He's just perfect.
273 2024-11-20 12:56:21
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
A wise man once remarked: it's possible to commit no errors and still lose. Kamala Harris was a good candidate. But -- and this is something that's going to happen to all of us at various points in life -- she was outmatched by the challenges and circumstances.
She had 107 days, and she understandably operated on a low-risk, narrow strategy trying to eke out a small victory via swing states and the blue wall. It didn't work, but she came close. As vote counts come in, it's become pretty clear: a two point shift towards her in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania would have meant a Democrat victory.
107 days is not a lot. Kamala had to deal with Biden's foreign policy where voters, alienated by Biden's support of Israel, didn't feel comfortable voting for Kamala and where many voted for no one. Kamala had to deal with how the Democratic Party was a machine built on big money donors whose corporations are exploiting the very people from whom Democrats need votes, preventing her from offering a more transformational vision of her presidency. Kamala was facing a global anti-incumbent wave.
It was just too much for a 107 day campaign with the VP of the current administration being parachuted in last minute, too late to deal with serious issues in the entire party and offer a vision to address it, too late to have a new strategy that wasn't about running close and hoping to be slightly ahead enough to win.
Which is why, even though Kamala lost... I don't blame her. While I agree with a lot of the Kamala-criticism, I feel it's more criticism of the party than the politician, whose head must have been spinning. The problems were and are structural and systemic and take a lot more than 107 days to sort out.
274 2024-11-20 09:27:47
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Democrats are on the right side of history. But their strategy is on the losing side of history. Their 2024 loss is a matter of public record. I shouldn't be derided overtly or subtly for stating that Democrats lost in 2024 which is a highly observable and entirely factual observation. Defeat is a part of life.
And when people lose, the healthy and well-adjusted person will assess and review how and why they lost and what they can do to achieve better results as opposed to deriding any news source that dutifully reports that the score was 312-226 and not in our favour.
This is a political thread about current events and Kamala's loss is a factual news story. No one should have to debate whether or not Kamala Harris lost the election. Even Kamala isn't debating it.
Kamala's defeat is stressful enough; to deal with someone scornful towards reporting and discussing how she lost is just ridiculous. This is why election denialism is so toxic whether on the left or the right.
The problems that the Democrats face are many. One, there's Trump-level concerns. Will we ever get to have elections again? Will Trump stack the deck to make it hard/harder/impossible for Democrats to win? Will Trump go after Democrats with his DoJ and there won't be any Democrats to run in 2026/2028? ireactions says that I shouldn't worry about this stuff, and since his head is probably clearer than mine, I will believe him.
I wouldn't say you shouldn't worry. I'm saying that it will not be as easy and immediate as Trump thinks or hopes it will be, and that Democrats are not defenseless... but they are also not invulnerable.
77 million people voted against Trump. That is cause for hope.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi … rcna179969
275 2024-11-20 07:15:54
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
You are gravely mistaken to think "Maybe he'll come back" was an expression of anything but dread, and your thinly-veiled election denialism is thinly-veiled, conspicuous and obvious: every editorial that examines the election results is met with your sneering, cultlike brag about how the losing candidate was too perfect to have lost.
There is no analysis, there is no review, merely ad hominem derision towards anyone discussing how Kamala Harris lost the 2024 election to which you react as though it were stated as a defamatory slur as opposed to a factual matter of public record.
Your goal is obvious: you want people to be uncomfortable saying that Kamala lost and fear your reprisal.
This will no longer be tolerated. This is a thread about current events existing in reality. The unpleasant but observable reality is that Donald Trump won the 2024 election and will be president again. No one trying to discuss this unhappy reality should have to deal with overt hostility or subtle microaggressions from you being offended by discussion of widely reported, loser-conceded election results.
276 2024-11-19 22:22:41
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I think it would have happened eventually. A jealous football player would have leaked a video, an ex-con with an axe to grind would have posted something just to lash out and strike back. Not everyone in Smallville is an angel. Someone was going to film something and post something. All it takes is one person with a grudge and a phone.
277 2024-11-19 22:13:16
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
If you are not at all the person described in my summary, why are you so insulted?
Your denial that Trump defeated the Democrats in 2024 shows a total inability to deal with the obvious and unfortunate reality that Kamala isn't going to be President.
I see your supposed about-face for what it truly is: a passive-aggressive, veiled harassment due to your anger over your unproven conspiracy theory not being permitted on this board.
You spent months sneering and jeering at anyone and everyone who had doubts about Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, bragging about how they would win the 2024 election. When they lost, you decided to post unproven stories about the voting machines being hacked by satellites to continue your mockery and ridicule and try to avoid being on the receiving end. You were told that election denialism would get you banned.
Now you are angry whenever anyone describes the Democratic defeat of 2024 as an observable fact and a matter of public record. You are triggered because your preferred response -- it was hacked, it was rigged, it was cheated, they actually won -- was identified as abuse and harassment and conversation hijacking that was going to -- and still can -- get you banned from this board.
You decided you would leave and find some other community. I see the search went well since you're back.
And now, fuming over how your conspiratorial wings have been clipped, you're now choosing the path of passive-aggressive microaggressions towards anyone who engages in critical review of why Democrats lost the 2024 election because if you made your preferred response to that conceded-by-Kamala reality, it would be your last post on this board for awhile.
Perhaps you're thinking if you just colour in the lines long enough and gradually escalate, you can seamlessly resume your curtailed behaviours. You'd be mistaken.
Perhaps you simply have nowhere else to go because you can't find a community that will discuss politics in your preferred fashion where the Democratic Party is a cult and you are a slavish disciple and the Democratic defeat of 2024 is denied and ignored.
No one who thinks air-gapped voting machines can be hacked by satellite has any capacity to evaluate what is and isn't a credible news source. Your measure of credibility at this point is whatever supports your cult.
It is very obvious that your comments were and are designed to intimidate people discussing how Democrats lost the election. You want to make it uncomfortable for anyone who can address unpleasant but provable reality.
You want people -- and you've targeted me -- to be walking on eggshells, afraid to mention that Democrats lost the 2024 election, worried about what harassment you'll unleash in response.
It is very obvious in your responses how triggered and offended you are that anyone dares to cite how Democrats lost in 2024 without bringing up your pet conspiracy theory.
Your election denialism is not welcome here. Your rebranded and thinly-veiled election denialism is not welcome here. Your hostility towards people discussing widely-reported and conceded election results and current events is not welcome here. Your cult is not welcome here.
278 2024-11-19 18:45:47
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
In a world of smartphone cameras, YouTube, and Smallville having at least one petty criminal, I do not see how Clark's secret could have stayed secret.
THE X-FILES was a 90s show in a very internet-limited era. SUPERNATURAL started in 2005, and it was an era of talk and text phones and low resolution web video; it was not fit for documentarians or plausible revelations. Also, monsters were not sufficiently mainstream and hadn't made major media appearances. It was only in 2008 that YouTube offered HD video streaming; it was only 2011 that the iPhone could film in 1080p video.
Superman, however, is an in-universe global icon in an era of even $200 smartphones being able to film 4K video and upload them to YouTube, and the SUPERMAN AND LOIS series began in 2021 and high definition web video has been a plot element. I don't think Superman can keep a secret identity in a small town in this era; once the town knew, it was going to leak and the world would know.
279 2024-11-19 18:38:04
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Some interesting analysis on where Kamala Harris' campaign faltered. Critical review is always preferable to cult-like obsequious fawning.
M. Steven Fish:
During the DNC, the Democrats cast Trump as weak and pathetic rather than treating him like an 800-pound gorilla who should terrify us. Harris largely did the same during the debate. The proof of concept was there: When the Democrats switched to a higher-dominance mode, they controlled the narrative, their prospects brightened and Trump stalled.But the Democrats then reverted to their low-dominance norm. They fell back on their timeworn, futile tactic of ceding the spotlight to Trump. Rather than just ridiculing Trump’s victim complex, promising to kick his self-pitying ass and then immediately directing attention back to their own great plans for the country, the Democrats devoted precious campaign time, especially in the critical homestretch, to repeating Trump’s increasingly outrageous statements and enjoining everyone to join them in being afraid and offended.
I’m hard-pressed to think of a single novel, provocative, brash, daring, or entertaining thing that Harris said during the last seven weeks of the campaign. One consequence was that a lot of people remained unsure what she stood for. Even worse was the widespread suspicion that she didn’t stand for anything.
We all watched the spectacle unfold. How would her policies differ from Biden’s? Well, she couldn’t say but could confirm that her presidency wouldn’t just be a re-run of his. How, then, would it differ? Her answer: Well, you know, her first term wouldn’t just be a Biden second term. How, then, did she vote on California’s Proposition 36, which would recriminalize retail theft and some drug offenses? Her answer: “I am not going to talk about the vote on that.” On immigration: Didn’t she take office seeking to decriminalize illegal border crossings and didn’t she and Biden wait too long to deal with the border problem? Her answer: Our immigration system is broken. Fine, but didn’t she take too long to try to fix it? Her answer: The problem predated Biden and her. OK, but couldn’t they have acted earlier? Her answer: She had prosecuted drug traffickers earlier in her career.
It came to look as if avoiding risk was the name of her game and that her aim was to run out the clock without saying anything controversial. This is what low-dominance politics looks like.
Democrats’ usual way of abnormalizing Trump — did you see what he just said?! Aren’t you scared to death by what this bully is doing?! — has got to stop. That approach only builds Trump up. The only effective way to deal with Trump is to ridicule him, troll him and otherwise diminish him with expressions of disdain and contempt. As we’ve discussed, for a brief period during the campaign, that’s what the Democrats did and it worked wonders. After the Democrats returned to making the election a referendum on Trump and his awfulness, Trump bulldozed them without breaking a sweat.
280 2024-11-19 18:27:28
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I think these voters are stupid because they don't know and they don't want to know. They fall for dumb little slogans because they want to put absolutely no thought into it. I don't care how they get their news or what their politics are, but I do care that they have a 6th grade understanding of how the country works.
And we are in this situation because we've allowed the dumbest among us to elect the king of the dummies.
On a personal level, it's not your business to care.
On a political level, it would probably be good for the Democratic Party to figure out how these people get their news and what their politics are because, apparently, we need some of their votes to win.
281 2024-11-19 17:48:17
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
MSNBC is clearly no longer penetrating the consciousness of the electorate when Republicans have taken over social media and dominate the airwaves, and social media is unfortunately far more ubiquitous than MSNBC.
But speaking of MSNBC, here's an argument from them for Democrats to run on economic populism.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi … rcna180615
It actually has some actionable ideas and perspectives as opposed to another pointless "Democrats should change nothing about their losing strategy / Kamala was great / no ideas for how Democrats can win going forward" essay.
It seems to me that the nonsense on the left wing spectrum is coming from anyone who has an ongoing history of harassing others for discussing how Democrats lost the 2024 election, anyone who demands Democrats change nothing about their current trajectory of losing the 2024 election, anyone has no real ideas on how Democrats can win after losing the 2024 election but feels they must regularly convey how they lack any ideas for Democrats to win while belittling anyone else who tries to come up with any.
Democrats lost the election in 2024. That is the current factual premise for political discussion about Democrats in this thread. The Democrat defeat of 2024 is a current event of public record. Anyone who is offended and triggered by discussion of how Democrats lost in 2024 should really seek some other community to discuss politics in their preferred manner.
282 2024-11-18 17:58:32
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I don't know what small town Slider_Quinn21 lives in where the entire populace could keep a secret like Clark Kent being Superman from reaching the rest of the world in this day and age, but I would like to live there.
283 2024-11-18 17:56:42
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
The upshot of this editorial: Kamala Harris was a great candidate, Democrats couldn't and shouldn't do anything differently to win elections from now on. What exactly is the point of this? Kamala Harris isn't going to be president, so describing her merits is pointless. If this person -- or anyone, really -- won't discuss and can't think of what Democrats might do to stop losing elections, then I wonder why they bothered to write a column at all.
I wonder why anyone produces political opinions that contain no ideas, suggestions or anything that is in any way productive or useful. Or why they think idea-free, suggestion-vacant, non-constructive responses are a worthwhile contribution in discussing what Democrats might do to start winning elections again.
Perhaps, if they have no ideas on how Democrats might do to win from now on, they could... apply their pen to some other field.
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Speaking as someone who masks and uses vaccines, democratic people don't force others to wear headgear they don't want and get injections they don't want. Someone who believes in democracy will recommend and encourage, oppose misinformation, and respect individual choice. And given how a two point shift in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania would have won Kamala Harris the election, the Democratic Party isn't in any shape to disdain people whose votes they need.
The contempt and disdain for people who voted Trump or don't mask or don't vaccinate may be very satisfying from a personal standpoint, but it isn't very helpful in terms of political campaigns and political messaging.
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The issue of misinformation that Slider_Quinn21 describes reflects how Republicans have now dominated the mediasphere. Voters supported health care, minimum wage increases and other progressive ballot measures but didn't support progressive candidates enough to win the election. This means that Democrats' progressive platforms are not reaching low information voters sufficiently to identify the ballot measures they want with the party that supports them.
This is also the result of a weak Democratic media presence and strategy. President Biden was distant and hidden away from the press and felt absent. Democrats have for too long only tried to be present in media in the months leading to elections and on being a strong presence in key swing states, with Harris' 107 day campaign trying to eke out a narrow victory.
Democrats need to be more present and central in media, both through current broadcast and social media networks and in producing a left of center, fact-oriented media system to compete with the right.
Slider_Quinn21 calls Trump voters "stupid voters". I am going to argue that they are "struggling voters": people with limited media exposure, who maybe can't afford to pay for online newspapers, who are seeing all their news via memes and Twitter, who are so tired from working three jobs and taking care of family that they can't seek out non-partisan or left of center media, with Republican-coverage flooding their line of sight. Democrats and left of center media needs to reach these struggling voters.
284 2024-11-17 18:59:57
Re: Random Thoughts about TV, Film and Media (698 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
THE BIG BANG THEORY had a prequel series, YOUNG SHELDON, which now has a spinoff, GEORGIE AND MANDY'S FIRST MARRIAGE. Georgie, a cheery Southern mechanic, first appeared on THE BIG BANG THEORY played by Jerry O'Connell.
On YOUNG SHELDON, Georgie is a teenager played by Montana Jackson, who now is the lead of GEORGIE AND MANDY'S FIRST MARRIAGE. Georgie is a 19 year old high school dropout who gets the late 20s Mandy (Emily Osment) pregnant in a one night stand. Georgie immediately drops every frivolous pursuit in life to support his baby and Mandy, for whom Georgie is head over heels in love. One of their supports is Jim, the father of Mandy who is played by Will Sasso (Gomez Calhoun).
So, if you ever felt the need to watch young Quinn and Gomez as pseudo father and son, here you are. Emily Osment is splendid too.
285 2024-11-17 12:46:00
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Grizzlor's take makes the most sense to me.
According to Axios, Biden's stimulus, while well-intentioned and not the sole cause of inflation, added about 3 percent for a total of 7 percent, and that addition caused the increase in federal borrowing rates.
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/10/trump- … -inflation
The Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco says, however, without stimulus, the economy might have tipped into deflation and been even harder for everyone -- but regardless, Democrats were associated with rising prices.
https://www.frbsf.org/research-and-insi … inflation-
As a person who identifies with wokeism -- it's obviously not a winning political message and comes off as cultural policing. Even Andrew Yang of the Forward Party says so. It seems we need the non-woke vote to win. https://www.andrewyang.com/blog/abandon … -behaviors
It would probably be best to focus on making life better for the working class by serious and meaningful structural changes to challenge corporate exploitation of labour instead of a tax credit here and a subsidy there that only helps the middle class.
As much as public health is a political issue of policy, do vaccines and masks really need to be a political item anymore? Use them if you want them (which I do), no need to be offended by anyone who doesn't.
286 2024-11-16 19:43:37
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Two contrary perspectives:
The Bulwark says Democrats is doing fine with outreach to working class voters but have drifted too far left for most of them and warns that left wing populism is too weak to overcome right wing populism, and Democrats must pursue centrist policies to win Democrats and Republicans alike: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/democrats- … the-allure
The Jacobin says Harris wasted her time trying to campaign as an acceptable candidate to Republicans instead of offering left wing populism and major structural change needed to help the working class, and that Democrats depend on wealthy donors who are squeezing the very voters Democrats need to win: https://jacobin.com/2024/11/harris-trum … ts-workers
I wonder where the truth is and if Slider_Quinn21 will tell me.
287 2024-11-16 19:27:07
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I am not saying Trump would not try to do some or all of what you fear -- I'm just questioning whether or not Trump could actually succeed or find the compliance he would need. Trump's goal is to slash the headcount of every federal agency and reduce them all to being staffed solely with loyalists led by loyalists -- except this smaller workforce would then lack the manpower, experience and ability to carry out complex schemes of conspiracy and subterfuge like election sabotage and fraud while being easy for Democrats and media and civil liberties agencies to monitor fully and totally.
Meanwhile, if Trump finds it untenable to make his cutbacks, then we have federal agencies staffed with such a wide range of people, some of whom would follow illegal or fraudulent orders; some of whom would refuse; some of whom would leak them as whistleblowers. There's also the question of whether or not police or military would follow illegal or fraudulent orders or if enough would lose confidence to dissent in the ranks.
Ultimately, if Trump tried to pull any of these, he could undoubtedly go some part of the distance, but he'd face chaos and a rise to civil war. That's bad in itself; I just don't think Trump has the masterful control to have the outcomes that he would seek from these gambits. Republicans have bowed to Trump over and over again because he served their own ambitions, but I am not sure if illegality that would lead to resistance in the ranks and civil conflict would serve them or their wish to live in luxury as professional politicians.
I don't think your scenario is farfetched in what Trump might want attempt, but the results would be messy and explosive as opposed to triumph and dominance for Trump.
288 2024-11-15 21:14:57
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I guess it's possible that no one is dumb enough to launch a missile at the Kent Farm.
289 2024-11-15 21:07:45
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
The Onion buys Alex Jones' InfoWars. LOL.
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/lates … rcna180184
290 2024-11-15 18:22:34
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
My understanding of the ruling: Trump only has immunity for actions relating to core presidential powers and official acts. Elections do not fall under the banner of core presidential powers and official acts. The Supreme Court ruling is unjust, abhorrent and stretches the limits of the presidential office -- but not to the extent of empowering Trump to stop elections.
The ruling gives Trump immunity in command of the military, in influencing the department of justice, executing laws, and control of the executive branch, and that is a disturbing amount of power. But elections are the domain of the individual Secretary of States or Lieutenant Governors, not the president.
Why did the conservative Supreme Court justices do this? They have been trying to secure minority rule for decades and Trump's case allowed them to consolidate more power for conservative presidents and to remove the levers that Democrats might pull to constrain conservatives. Trump suited their agenda.
The ruling doesn't define official acts in order to allow assassination. While Trump commands the military, commanding assassinations and massacres in violation of domestic and international law would see at least some degree of military resistance and refusal and be considered both an illegal order and an unofficial act.
Even with loyalist generals and promised pardons, military personnel could find themselves facing state level and international charges. It would lead to military walkouts or infighting or both as well as international condemnation, sanctions and diplomatic withdrawals.
This isn't like ARROW where every police officer magically became a loyal henchman when Diaz was blackmailing the city and police administration. At the same time, that resistance would not necessarily be throughout or consistent... so the situation would be messy and chaotic as opposed to cleanly in Trump's control.
Could Trump use the core powers he does have to make voting difficult? Yes, but I don't think he could do away with elections or pressure enough states to go along with it.
291 2024-11-15 15:23:20
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I was really moved by Clark surrendering to the evitable and not using time travel or a body double and such to undo the latest change to his life... but I wonder what it means, practically, now that everyone has Superman's home address. It's possible we'll just never have to deal with it as the show is so close to its final hours.
292 2024-11-15 12:07:03
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
A lot of left-leaning people are following Slider_Quinn21's lead and just disengaging from news and social media:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ … e-00189655
The exhaustion of the Resistance anti-Trumpers is palpable.
That said... I am not sure Trump can really suspend future elections or that he would have any support to do so. Even if Republicans have little regard for civil liberties and democracy, they ultimately want the system of government which they have shamelessly exploited for their own gain to continue after Trump has run his last campaign or passed away.
They plan on being around after Trump; Trump installing himself as dictator for life would leave a power vacuum and a chaotic situation beyond their control when he dies. Government would be fractured into separate fiefdoms and competing factions. The loss of central control and authority would turn their luxurious lives of playing politics into a desperate struggle for power.
Trump hardly has that many years left. I can't see the Supreme Court or the House or the Senate suspending elections when they plan to exist after Trump is gone and depend on the legitimacy of running for office or being appointed by those who ran for office. They wouldn't maintain elections out of morality and ethics, however, as much as out of maintaining a system they've turned to their advantage while maintaining a facade of being respectable.
I think is more likely that Trump and government would make voting as inconvenient and difficult as possible for Democrats, mount legal challenges to vote counts, try to stop counts. That's also definitely of concern. And the VP might refuse to certify the results of the election. But if Trump isn't running in 2028, will a future Republican candidate have the cultlike devotion that Trump has to engage in 2020 style election denlalism?
The situation is bad, but I am not sure it is hopeless.
293 2024-11-14 20:38:04
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Slate offers Trump some passingly friendly advice: do nothing and coast on Biden's achievements.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 … riffs.html
(We all know he won't.)
294 2024-11-13 17:21:12
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I am really sorry for what you're going through. It is awful and absurd. It's like that high school bully I got suspended when I was a kid and thought I would never see again suddenly showing up at the office. Just insane.
I don't know if Trump can actually suspend future elections. Also, would he really want to stay in politics once his debts are paid and his trials are dismissed? His political campaign was an exercise in evading debt and criminal proceedings.
Trump's victory was not a landslide. He seems to have won by about two points in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, which, if shifted in the opposite direction, would have won Harris the White House.
https://www.thenation.com/article/polit … -election/
Chris Hayes writes: "Trump has a destructive plan for America. But we have the tools to stop it."
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/lates … rcna179161
Blue state governors are fighting back:
https://www.salon.com/2024/11/13/blue-s … op-terror/
Slate reminds us that Republican government will be disliked as much as Democrat government:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 … s-why.html
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There has been quite a bit of unsubstantiated election denialism in this thread. It makes me very upset and unhappy.
It's really difficult to deal with a friend who isn't content to believe what they do, but actively hijacks every single political conversation, deflecting every criticism of Democrat strategies to focus on making false claims about how there is widespread evidence that the election was hacked.
I can't say the election wasn't hacked, but there is no widespread evidence. I cannot find a single news story about any defeated Democrat claiming they were hacked and contesting the election for a recount or a runoff.
This person demands their speculations be considered factual. This conversational bullying is incredibly hurtful. They are implicitly dismissing everyone else's subjects as worthless, tacitly declaring that any political discussion should be entirely in terms of their unverified speculations, misrepresented as fact. I have asked them to cease comments of this nature; they continue.
I have politely explained that these behaviours resemble the tactics of a cult. It's controlling, it's gaslighting, it's insulting, it's hurtful, it's stressful -- and I see that, even when told how upsetting and harassing and abusive it is, this friend doesn't care, they keep interrupting other subjects to say the election was hacked, having previously said that Elon Musk hacked the election with the Starlink satellite network.
Elections officials across the board are pointing out that this is physically impossible.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-e … d6356cb68b
Patrick Gannon, North Carolina State Board of Elections: "Satellite-based internet devices were not used to tabulate or upload vote counts in North Carolina. In addition, our tabulated results are encrypted from source to destination preventing results being modified in transit. And no, tabulators and ballot-marking devices are never connected to the internet in North Carolina."
Mike Hassinger, Georgia secretary of state’s office: "We don’t use Starlink equipment for any part of our elections, and never have. Our election equipment is 100% air-gapped and never connected to the internet."
Matt Heckel, Pennsylvania Department of State: "Counties do not use Starlink to transmit unofficial or official election results. No voting system in Pennsylvania is ever connected to the internet.
David Becker, founder and executive director of The Center for Election Innovation and Research: "It is not possible that Starlink was used to hack or change the outcome of the US presidential election. If anyone tried to interfere with the machines to rig the election, it would be discovered through multiple means, including reconciling the registered voters who cast ballots with the number of votes, as well as the audits."
Pamela Smith, president and CEO of Verified Voting: "While Starlink provided connectivity in a number of jurisdictions for electronic poll books (EPBs) in this election, neither Starlink nor other types of communication networks play any role in counting votes. Our elections produce huge quantities of physical evidence. A satellite system like Starlink cannot steal that."
The air-gapped, satellite-detached nature of voting machines are a factual matter of computer engineering. No election official has lent any credibility to the claims that the election was hacked via satellite or that tabular alterations could compromise crosschecking against paper results.
Finally, I had to tell this person that if they continued to engage in derailing conversations with unproven conspiracies, they would be subject to a temporary ban. They declared that they were being punished for opposing Trump and were leaving.
I would say they were chastised for hijacking any discussion that isn't about their unproven theories, theories which cite 'widespread evidence' but offers... speculative social media posts from so-called experts who think hacking an election "simple, stupid, easy", as though an air-gapped machine is as vulnerable as a networked Square.
I didn't ban their account. Maybe they'll be inclined to return. But I should not be harassed with misinformation and abused with topic hijacking when trying to have a factual discussion about politics. And I can't keep monitoring and addressing it day after day after day after day. I have other responsibilities.
295 2024-11-13 11:34:10
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Without speaking for Slider_Quinn21, no one citing the 2024 election results -- a matter of public record -- should be harassed with unverified claims that the results are invalid. No losing Democrat and no election official have taken that stance.
The claim that Starlink was used to hack the election is false. Voting machines are not connected to the internet to that degree if at all.
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024 … s-election
The supposedly missing votes are not missing, just not yet counted, and no elections agency or official has claimed there was fraud.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-2 … 68a1362518
Could there be some means of circumventing the ballots and the vote count that just hasn't come to light yet? Yes, there could be. But as it stands, voter fraud having tipped 2024 to Trump is an unproven claim.
Discussion of Democrats strategies and errors is consistently being deliberately derailed by one poster making unproven claims of voter fraud. That is a tactic of abuse and harassment to suppress criticism and review of Democratic performance. To attack anyone who voices concerns and critiques of the techniques that Democrats use to run for office. I have asked this poster to cease their abuse and harassment.
Every time this happens, I am forced to respond to each and every one of these claims to establish that this harassment is not appropriate, that these claims are not proven. And that people should be able to discuss current events and matters of public record and critique Democrats without constant persecution and misinformation where theories are falsely presented as facts.
I can't deal with it anymore. It's too stressful and upsetting and mentally draining. I also do not have time to do it anymore. I can't spend any more of my lunch breaks addressing this behaviour; I can't deal with it during my off hours and expect to get any of my other tasks done.
296 2024-11-13 08:38:31
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Having lost the election, the defunct Harris campaign is now... hitting up donors for more money!?!
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 … ising.htmlOh for heaven's sake.
Now THAT's propaganda. It ain't over until it's over and all the votes are counted and are ensured to be properly executed and not fraud. That sack of shit Trump brought 60+ cases to court to contest the 2020 election and lost. I don't think it's something that should count against us to contest this election ONCE given all the inaccuracies, inconsistencies, and things that are WRONG with this election. Defunct? Far from it. She stated in her concession speech that even though she conceded this election, she wasn't giving up the fight.
These BS rethuglicans still expect us to believe that overturning Roe v. Wade did not cause a blue wave and that millions of Democrats sat out this election? They expect us to believe that 1. The person with the far better ground game lost, 2. All the many hundreds of celebrities and endorsements for Kamala lost including a Taylor Swift and Beyonce army, 3. A lying 34-time convicted felonious racist rapist sack of shit who utilized Russian assistance to fraudulently steal this election who's hated by more than 54% of the country got more votes than the most qualified Presidential candidate in 300 years?
LOL
QuinnSldr, I've asked you not to post unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud as factual statements, especially when no election official or losing Democratic candidate has made any claims of voter fraud. But you have continued to present these theories as facts.
I have also pointed out that your unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud are a tactic that suppresses criticism of Democrat politicians and silences critical analysis of the strategies employed by Democratic politicians and the Democratic National Party. I have asked you not to engage in this harassment anymore. But you have continued to do so.
If you make another non-factual claim as fact and engage in these intimidation tactics, I'm going to have to suspend you for 48 hours and then increase the suspension span with each incident.
People have the right to criticize Democratic National Party strategies and Democrat campaigns and positions without being accused of being anti-democratic. The concept of democracy is not synonymous with any one party or politician.
No one should have to deal with your ongoing harassment for mentioning the results of the 2024 US election in which Democrats lost and the president-elect is not the Democratic candidate. Those results are a matter of public record, just as Trump's criminal convictions and business failures are a matter of public record that you're free to post without persecution.
I don't like giving this warning. But your behaviour, even if you are unaware of it, is clearly to intimidate others from discussing how Democrats can rebuild their defeated party. That necessitates that I respond to it -- and I simply don't have time to keep addressing it, especially when my requests for you to regulate and moderate your behaviour in this forum have been ignored.
297 2024-11-12 21:05:49
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Having lost the election, the defunct Harris campaign is now... hitting up donors for more money!?!
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 … ising.html
Oh for heaven's sake.
298 2024-11-12 19:32:40
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I agree that Lex in most depictions is a genius. For me, the conman part of his personality dominates, but I can see why you'd go with genius.
Lex (Rosenbaum) wants to be loved. But part of being a good friend and earning the love of others -- and it took me way too long to learn this -- is to be present without being controlling. It means you're not going to strong-arm people into anything; they have to make their own decisions themselves, and you're simply standing by even if they don't choose to come to you in that moment (or ever).
But Lex exerts crazy amounts of pressure to try to bend friends to do what he thinks is best for them (and him) and he turns love into hatred. Lex is completely unwilling to confront his own role in this repeated dynamic. Lex insists that manipulating people into seeing him as their benefactor and savior is heroic and self-sacrificing, even though that heroism is often fraudulent and the sacrifices are self-induced suffering.
The most revealing moment about Lex for me, strangely -- is a scene where he isn't even present. It's in "Bulletproof", where Lana learns that Lex was horrifically injured by 250 tonnes of ice collapsing on him and is depending on his team building a supersuit, via Project Prometheus, to restore his paralyzed and frostbite ravaged body to full health and give him superpowers.
Lana steals all the project files, Tess pursues Lana with a gun, and Lana gets the upper hand and reveals something terrible to Tess: when Tess was injured in an explosion, Lex saved Tess' life with a surgical team -- but he had implanted into Tess a nanotransmitter connected to Tess' optic nerve, enabling Lex to see everything through her eyes at any time. "He's watching us now," Lana tells Tess.
The fact that Lex decided to surveil Tess by hijacking her eyes reveals a pathological need for total control of others at all times in all ways. This is a deeply disturbed human being who doesn't believe anyone could ever love or even like him. He monitors them to this absolute degree to see if they're still loyal or if they'll turn on him. He needs to position them into subservience under his dominance. He treats Tess as a tool for his own use with total disregard her individuality or autonomy.
Cudlitz is just the same. He doesn't care about his daughter except as a thinly moral justification for lashing out at the Kents. She's just a possession that he considers stolen so that he can have an excuse for his aggression. He's Lex without Michael Rosenbaum's air of intelligence and charisma.
299 2024-11-12 18:58:47
Re: Smallville (140 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Against my better judgement, I've been rewatching SMALLVILLE and, to my surprise, the show is much better than I remember it being. Season 1 is good, Seasons 3, 5 and 6 are strong, and Season 8 is my favourite so far.
One near-universal criticism of Season 8 is that the entire season built to a Clark/Doomsday fight and failed to deliver with Doomsday knocking Clark across the city in one blow; Clark grabbing Doomsday and leaping into the geothermal facility that Oliver detonates with Clark throwing Doomsday to the bottom of a geothermal well with the collapsed structure entrapping Doomsday. The complaint is that the entire season built to a huge fight that consists of one punch, one leap, and an explosion.
... I don't see it. I don't see how Season 8 was offering any buildup to a big fight. At all. Throughout Season 8, Doomsday is always filmed at a distance or partially obscured or in shadow or simply off camera as he attacks. We see isolated portions of Doomsday's arms as he slashes Jimmy and claws Clark. Any full body shots are brief and darkly lit. We never get a good look at it.
To me, this is the show making it very clear: Doomsday is more of a force and a presence than an actual character. The visual language of Season 8 makes it very clear that Doomsday is a monster kept at a distance and in the dark, and there is going to be little to no overt portrayal of Doomsday except in the guise of Davis Bloome. Doomsday is a monstrosity beyond human comprehension, barely contained in human shell, so horrific that the camera on SMALLVILLE dares not look at him.
Also, the Doomsday costume doesn't really hold up well in full lighting.
I don't feel SMALLVILLE ever built up expectations that there would be a huge fight between Clark and Doomsday. If anything, it made it clear that Doomsday was going to always be a slightly out of focus, dimly lit figure. The emphasis was also on how Doomsday was more powerful than Clark and any straight fight between Clark and Doomsday would be short, brutal, and lethal for Clark -- which is why Clark's strategy was not to kill Doomsday but to bury him.
However, while that is clearly the message that SMALLVILLE conveyed to the audience, it's very clear to me that I'm in the minority and I was the only one who heard it. The universal criticism of Season 8 is that the fight with Doomsday was a huge disappointment and didn't pay off all the buildup... so clearly, the creators failed to convey the expectations they were setting to anyone but me. It's very clear to me that absolutely no one agrees with me on this.
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Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,554 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
The Bulwark would like to remind us that there are no permanent defeats in America or in politics.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/there-are- … nt-defeats