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Once again, it's not the fact that Metropolis was almost destroyed.  That was fine.  If Superman and Zod fought, the destruction was realistic (or, hell, might've been toned down).  These are gods fighting in a restricted space, and I think Clark did about as well as he could minimizing the damage.  That's not the problem.

The problem is that the scenes immediately after the movie are light-hearted and fun.  They're from a different movie that doesn't care that millions just died.  That's the problem.  And I'm *thrilled* that there will be consequences in the next movie because there should be.  But I'm also one of the people that loves connected movies/universes, and it bothers me less that the consequences are delivered outside of the movie that incited the incident. 

But people complain that Captain America and Iron Man 2 were meaningless because they were just setting up Avengers.  But in this current model, the entire 3rd act of Man of Steel is going to be paid off in Batman v Superman.  That, to get the entire story, you have to watch both movies.  Which is fine with me....but I think that's the reason why people are upset about the ending.  I don't think they're upset that people died or that there weren't consequences.  I think they're upset that the movie basically forgot it happened after it happened.  Which was just really....really weird.

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Well, only a couple things really bothered me:

- I didn't like that I looked up one day and everyone was an expert ninja.  I was waiting for a scene where criminals attacked Ray, Laurel, Thea, and Felicity, and Felicity ran out of the room (or hid under a table) since all of the heroes were missing....only to find that everyone she thought was like her was actually an expert fighter.  It wouldn't surprise me if Oliver trained Felicity during the S3/S4 break, and now she can handle members of the League of Assassins without any issue.  Thea's was explained a bit better since she had 3/4 months of nonstop training.  Laurel went to a boxing gym after work and then worked with Nyssa....after work.  I was waiting for an episode where Laurel got her ass kicked and was eased into the fold.  But she basically became a member of the team (moreso than Diggle) almost immediately with relatively minor growing pains.

- Oliver's death.  Was one of the coolest moments of midseason for any show.  Then.....he was just okay?  The stab wound and/or the fall off the cliff should've killed him.  I kept waiting for Lazarus to be mentioned, but it was just something superhuman.  Then when Lazarus was actually used, it was this big issue....and then Thea was just fine.  Made me wonder what the point of any of it was.

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tom2point0 wrote:

The way they handled time travel is a bit confusing to figure out and from what I understand they'll be moving into multiple dimension storyline bow with several speedsters coming into the storyline.

There was actually a rumor that Flash was going to crossover with Smallville, which would be another CW/DC Universe dimension.

The whole CW/DC Universe is actually a secondary Earth of some other universe, caused when Reverse Flash went back in time.  I'm guessing it branches off from the DC Cinematic Universe.  Which would be a cool way to tie it in.

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The League of Assassins storyline was weak.  Season 3 was a weak season as a whole.  I thought the Ray storyline was kind of dumb, the Oliver/Felicity stuff hurt both characters, I thought Laurel's story was rushed, and I thought Ra's wasn't as dangerous as he was meant to be.

But I think they sorta knew that with the series-finale-like ending.  Now they have no choice but to reboot.

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I heard nothing but good things about Ex Machina so I saw it a few weeks ago.  Was one of three people in the theater, but I thought it was fantastic.  Very nebulous characters but also really well done.  Honestly, it'd been a while since a movie affected me so much emotionally - but it's also a special case because that level of AI sorta scares me.  Nathan all but tells Caleb that machines are going to take over eventually, but he's still working on creating it.

I've never understood some people's desire to create something better than us.  Why would we want to create our own hangman?

But really, really good.  If you haven't heard of it, don't read anything about it.  Just watch.  You won't regret it.

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The show got better for sure.

Informant, have you caught up?  I think it's time for you to talk about (spoiler) dying.

Why is Britta stuck?  I've never really gotten that, and I think Britta's character was never really developed, honestly.  I think, organically, it makes more sense for Britta to be the one floating around in the world (not Troy).  Heck, it might've made more sense organically for Britta to end up with Troy on his trip.  Gillian Jacobs was fantastic, but I feel like Britta got lumped into this weird gray area where her character was simply a punchline.  Was she still going to be a therapist?  Is she just a lazy bum now?

It would be interesting to see her end up as the next generation's Pierce/Elroy or, god forbid, Chang. 

But outside of that, I see Britta as the type who would move to Europe with no real plan.  Waitress here a bit.  Find weird Europeans to let her crash on their couch for a while.  End up in a civil union with some French con artist until she gets the idea that she needs to go back to school and finish her degree smile

Which is another Dan Harmon-like idea.  Five minutes of exposition saying that everyone failed outside of Greendale, and they're all working to get new degrees.  Hard reboot haha.

Yeah, I think that'd work too.  Maybe they have to go find everyone and then bring them back for one more adventure on the campus.  But I think the show displayed (correctly) that these guys need to grow and evolve beyond Greendale.  So we shouldn't engineer reasons for them to be back on campus full-time.  A return?  Cool.  Full-time?  No.

Although now I like the idea of a superstar cast as the study group that gets replaced.  Imagine some of the top young actors just unceremoniously getting removed in favor of our cast.  I think Harmon would love that.

Interesting.  I think I'd go in a different direction.  Go with what the show does best and pick a genre and "Community-ize" it.  I'd pick a "quest" movie.

It's 3 years after the failed season seven.  Greendale is thriving under Dean Pelton (demoting the dean seems cruel, even if someone else would do better and he might thrive in a different role).  Enrollment is up, and it's even annexed City College as a satellite location.  A new study group has taken over the study room, and the old study group is the stuff of legends among the school.

INCITING INCIDENT - something happens and only one person can save the day - Jeff Winger.  But former-professor Winger hasn't been seen in a couple of years.  He left one day and never came back.  To save the school, Dean Pelton and the kids have to go on a quest to find Jeff.  They find Abed in Los Angeles - he's an indie director who is having some success but misses random misadventures.  He doesn't know where Jeff is, but he's happy to join in.  They try to find Annie, but she's away on some important investigation.  They try to find Britta but she's also in the wind.  They can only find Shirley, who hasn't heard from any of them in years.  A list of random characters (Magnitude, Leonard, Garrett, Elroy, Frankie, Buzz, Duncan, etc) are no help either.  Abed wishes the Troy was there, but they randomly stumble upon a normal-acting Chang.  He's become a rich tycoon, and he decides to use his vast resources to help find Jeff.

Chang, Pelton, Abed, Shirley and the new study group keep looking for clues when they realize that the new study group is slowly disappearing as they're getting replaced by the old one (the pop culture guy disappears when Abed arrives, the weird one disappears when Chang arrives, etc).

As they get to Chang's mansion and start using his network of resources, Annie shows up.  The big case was Chang, and he's stolen the identity of someone else.  From then, he starts acting more Chang-like.  They ask Annie to help them find Troy, Britta, or Jeff.  And she's already found Troy!  So they all go to try and find Britta, who they think is the key to finding Jeff.

I don't really have an ending, but in Community fashion, they'd find Jeff instead of Britta....forget about Britta (who finds them instead).  And Jeff and company spend the rest of acts 2 and 3 on an exciting adventure to save Greendale once and for all.  And the original study group is completely replaced and never spoken of again smile

Informant wrote:

It was a great season. I also want a season 7 after seeing how good this year was (what other show would do the incest episode?). I hear that there's still a chance for the movie. I guess we'd have to settle for that.

Sounds like the chances are actually pretty high that we'll get the movie.

I'm just not sure if it'd work as a movie.  Even the 3-part paintball episode run together would only be a 66-70 minute movie (at most).  Even a 90-minute movie (which is pretty short these days, even for comedies) would be a 4 or 5 part episode.  Is that too much time?  Would it be enough Community-style comedy, or would it also have to have ridiculous action/romantic subplots just to fill time?

I think the cast would do it in a heartbeat, and I'm sure Harmon would love to capitalize on finishing the #sixseasonsandamovie joke against all odds.  But I'm just not sure it works outside of the idea itself.

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It could be a tease.  Hiro growing up was teased a bunch and then never played upon because the writers didn't want to lose goofy/Japanese Masi Oka for cool/badass Masi Oka.

I thought the finale was flippin' brilliant.

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I thought embracing the TV concept was really a great way to finish the series.  It allowed them to have some fun at their own expense, and I think it must've been a blast to write and then perform. 

I am really surprised that Troy didn't come back.  There's no way Donald Glover's schedule was *that* busy that he couldn't do a similar cameo to Shirley's, and I wonder if he was a little more disgruntled than the BTS stories implied.

But I thought it was perfect.  All of it.  Well done, Community.

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Heroes was always afraid to make any forward progress.  They never wanted anything from season one to really grow.  So none of their characters did.  Even the character that made the most progress (Sylar), just floated around the same area - creepy villain.  What made me the most angry was when he power-raped Claire and then the show still wanted us to think he was the good guy.

When he was WAY beyond redemption....

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Well I'm not judging.  It just seems like they're already doing a spin-off.  I honestly do equate it to Guardians of the Galaxy - it could be really fun but doesn't really belong in the universe.  And if it's just a cool one-off movie, that's fine. 

It's just a little odd as a decision.  They do a straight Superman movie with no ties to anything - no tease - just a couple easter eggs implying that a universe exists beyond what we're seeing (although, at the same time, I think Bruce Wayne would've found his way into the war room during the whole Zod incident but maybe that'll be explained).

So it's Superman!  And BATMAN!  And also Wonder Woman and Aquaman!  Dawn of Justice!

Then a bunch of obscure villains, an extended Batman cameo.  Maybe Lex.

AND THEN JUSTICE LEAGUE.

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Well here's my thing.....

...how is this the third movie in the DCCU?  I just don't see how that's "universe building" - how many of these characters are going to be relevant going forward?  Even if they wanted Amanda Waller to be the "Nick Fury" of this universe, this seems like a really weird stepping stone to Justice League.  It's like Iron Man....then Guardians of the Galaxy to start the MCU.  It's fun - it's got some cool connections to the universe - but at the end of the day, it doesn't really have a relevant place in the picture.

I'd rather do Batman v Superman, then a Flash/Green Lantern movie (with a couple other minor characters), then Justice League.  Suicide Squad might be really cool, but it seems like a really odd decision as far as universe building goes.  And maybe they don't care, but it just seems really strange to me.

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