There's plenty of talent on DISCOVERY. Alex Kurtzman did amazing work on TRANSFORMERS PRIME. Nicholas Meyer is the writer (yes) and director of THE WRATH OF KHAN and THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY, the two most influential TREK films ever made. Aaron Harberts and Gretchen Berg wrote spectacular scripts for WONDERFALLS, PUSHING DAISIES, ROSWELL and REVENGE. Even without Bryan Fuller, the list of writers on DISCOVERY reads like a dream team of talent to me.

Oh, come on. Bryan Fuller doesn't work on lots of TV shows that we all enjoy watching.

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Having said that superheroes are not the place for plot or physical logic and plausibility -- ARROW's installment of "Invasion" is really pushing it. To recount: despite the Flash reporting that Oliver, Thea, Diggle and the Legends were beamed into space and likely aboard a spaceship, Cisco needs to vibe on Oliver's old bow in order to establish that Oliver and the Legends were beamed into space and likely aboard a spaceship. The fact that this spaceship has technology inspires Cisco to try to use a shard of alien tech to break into their communications infrastructure, something that didn't occur to him while at STAR Labs and only comes up when he's in the Arrowcave. Then we have a supervillain of the week established in a rushed flurry of dialogue in order to give the ARROW cast someone to fight and the script's desperation to give the actors their contractually required screentime becomes palpable.

It's painfully obvious at this point that the script has been written around trying to hammer the cast of ARROW into the story while allowing Melissa Benoist and Grant Gustin to make limited appearances in a B-plot.

Then we have the antics aboard the spaceship where the Dominators politely leave Oliver, Thea, Diggle and the Legends a conveniently marked exit door from an otherwise impenetrable prison and also have no guards and no countermeasures to at least keep their captives sedated in the event of their leaving the simulation. Then we have them boarding a spaceship that they not only manage to activate but can also pilot despite being faced with an alien navigation system!

Anyway. I still kind of liked it. The fantasy sequences were very strong, although the Photoshop effect of pasting Roy and Tommy's heads on body doubles was very silly and Deathstroke never speaking or taking off the mask smacked of pennypinching. It was fun. It was enjoyable. But I like my superheroes to be a little less overt in their silliness. Just a bit. Honestly, at this point, the only way this episode holds together in terms of plot is if the Dominators let their captives go -- and if Cisco's depression over his brother and frustration with Barry has somehow made him stupider this week.

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Ah, sorry. Well, I stand by my position. There's too much money to throw away here. Negotiations may stall, actors may wander, but THE X-FILES is coming back unless Gillian responds to my tweet to tell me otherwise.

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www.universityherald.com/articles/52808/20161201/x-files-season-11-news-mere-logistics-fix-carter-eyes.htm

Chris Carter says the show is coming back.

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TF's idea for replacing Barry Allen with Bart is hilariously bonkers. I love it. Does Grant Gustin play Bart in this scenario? That said, I think if they were going to swap Barry with Wally to adhere to DC's bizarre fiefdom divisions, they'd have done it by now -- and they got Deadshot back on ARROW and Deathstroke's returning too, so the leashes are being loosened gradually.

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I didn't feel SUPERGIRL and THE FLASH were particularly different and will default to my opinion that Informant just hates fun. THE FLASH had all of the odd physical spacing issues of SUPERGIRL; the heroes find the President but demand for his release rather than Atom or Firestorm of Supergirl grabbing him and flying away. The 'training' with Supergirl consists of her invulnerably tolerating a barrage of energy blasts and projectile weapons. Barry's superspeed still has him ducking for cover from Firestorm and Heatwave when they should be frozen if Barry's in motion.

There's other writing issues. The President's abduction is played as some sort of strategic coup, but he didn't seem to have much to contribute and it's not like we lost Dumbledore or something. And Oliver at the end says the heroes must contact Lyla Michaels to inform them the Dominators are hostile as though their kidnapping the President didn't communicate that already?

You could drive yourself crazy thinking about these things. These are children's characters. Melissa Benoist and Grant Gustin are adorable. Stephen Amell did such a great job playing Grant's big brother in Eobard Thawne's secret man cave. Slider_Quinn21, my second SLIDERS REBORN editor has resigned and declared me to be mentally unfit; would you be interested in being the third?

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I enjoyed it too. My favourite part was when Barry accepts the team leadership position but ends up parroting Oliver's instructions. The part where Mick informs Supergirl of his pyromanic backstory was also hilarious. And it was really great to see Oliver tell Barry to stop blaming himself over Flashpoint. I wasn't entirely convinced by Oliver's logic, but it was worthwhile to tell Barry to move forward.

I'm not sure whether the problem with Wally is the actor or the writing, but something never quite syncs. The character was written in some ways to be a crazy hellraiser, much like the original Colin Mallory was imagined as a flamboyant loudmouth braggart -- but then they hired an actor who plays everything low-key. With Colin, the character was reconceived; with Wally, they played the mismatch and it hasn't lead to something more.

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I would wait for an official announcement of anything. It's not the first time Gillian Anderson's been misquoted or misunderstood regarding her willingness to return to the series. And given the huge ratings success of the revival, I can't see FOX giving up. Negotiations may stall, availability may delay production, but this is a situation where there's money to be made. If THE X-FILES isn't coming back, FOX and Chris Carter would at least explain why to the press and until they do that, we shouldn't doubt the series' return... even if some of us admittedly think the show was better off on permanent hiatus.

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I'm not sure what's weirder, that presumably professional politicians insisted on running with a candidate who was deeply disliked and fundamentally unpopular among the constituents she'd need to win over, or that the Clinton campaign employed a political strategy and gameplan that seemed better suited to 1996 than 2016. And now we're *all* going to pay for it.

I'm sorry, but I have a terrible migraine right now, so I'm just going to side with Slider_Quinn21 on whatever this is about. I'm sure he has made some good and valid points about how the movie was lots of fun but has some problems when examined under scrutiny.

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This revival has no plot. Nothing happens. It's just our beloved characters -- our friends -- back onscreen after a long absence, chattering, laughing, shooting the breeze and letting us know they're still around. I would give anything for our show to have the same. Even a year and a half of my life.

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All the actors are available -- except Constance Wu who played Polly. At this point, there can't be any contractual obligations holding the actors to the show. I think, given how much time it's been, it might be best to treat PARALLELS is a rough pilot and simply start over again, but they might pick up on the series with a different set of characters who discover the Building or make Polly an occasional guest-star. It's a pretty wide concept, although I think that bringing in a new cast of characters when the original characters has only had the pilot would make THE BUILDING rival SLIDERS in being dismissive towards its leads.

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Stephen Amell reveals: he hated Season 4 as much as Informant!
http://www.cbr.com/arrows-amell-explain … t-with-s4/

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Nigel has set me some additional constructive criticism -- he thinks that the bulk of the finale outline is filled with irrelevant and confusing incidents and events. He advises that I turn the end of the script into the middle and get rid of the existing middle.

He could be right. Not sure yet. I'd say that I'm attempting a certain effect -- the "As Time Goes By" effect as well as the DOCTOR WHO effect where the story is filled with throwaway ideas that could each potentially be their own episode, the idea being to show how rich and boundless the SLIDERS concept can be where you can have a superhero movie next to an eccentric dramedy next to a hard boiled detective story next to a father-daughter dramedy. Nigel is the second editor to work on SLIDERS REBORN and the second one to think the story is absolutely crazy and out of control. Nigel is the best SLIDERS writer to ever touch the property. Yes, I know we all like Steve Brown and Jon Povill and Mike Truman and Marc Scott Zicree and Chris Black, but Nigel is the best and if he has concerns, they're worth serious consideration.

I think I'll continue onward as I am, but if the script truly becomes unmanageable, then Nigel's proposal is Plan B. I can't deny that what I'm attempting is completely nuts. The entire project, a SLIDERS revival in the feature film format with some extras, is lunacy. But... I mean, I've been thinking of Ian McDuffie (the Think of a Roulette blog) and his appearance on SLIDERSCAST in which Jim Ford described the plot of "In Dinos Veritas" and Ian remarked: "Everything you said is just insane! Dinosaurs! Truth collars! Poachers! Holographic rangers! And then the poacher got eaten! One of the best parts of trying to explain SLIDERS to anyone is a synopsis. They’re always bonkers. Like a sentient worm that poops the elixir of life."

Maybe that's what's happened with Nigel here, although anyone who dismisses Nigel Mitchell's opinion does so at their peril.

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pilight is both right and wrong. He's right that more material hasn't made the outline better in that poor Nigel couldn't understand it whereas the thin, vague and general outline was something of which he approved. However, I think it will make the script better. More *is* better from a time and productivity perspective: when writing the script, I'm not short of ideas or content, I don't have to struggle to give each slider something to do or work out how to get from Point A to B. All that material's already there, but some of it might not be present in the script, addressed through scene cuts, throwaway lines and montages. A lot of material isn't making it into the script pages, but it's still taking place off-camera or in a severely shortened form.

I would love for SLIDERS REBORN to go on forever, but I don't have the talent or skill to keep it going, Nigel Mitchell is responsible for nearly every piece of brilliance and cleverness in the stories and I think I'd better quit with an epic series finale while I'm slightly ahead.

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So, I sent the outline for the final SLIDERS REBORN to SLIDERS genius Nigel Mitchell like a year ago. But it was written in a thin, vague, general sense without much detail and I found the story a bit lacking in depth, detailing an average day in San Francisco now that it's a city of overlapping alternate realities followed by a big finish. Nigel pronounced that it reached the dizzying heights of good enough, but I knew there wasn't enough material for a screenplay.

Over the course of a year, I added more material to the outline. Subplots. Details of the city and its inhabitants. Side stories and examples. Scenery descriptions. More characters to better illustrate the themes. Anything and everything I might need so that I wouldn't be coming up with ideas on the spot and getting stuck in corners.

Nigel informs me that he cannot make head or tails of this expanded outline, that he can't keep track of who all these supporting cast characters are or why they matter or how they serve the plot or what the hell is going on. And I myself an experiencing something similar -- there's too much material for the script.

As a result, things are being shortened down. A complex chain of deduction is reduced to looking up an address. An extensive car chase has been excised. A complex series of six different mysteries has been reduced to two. It's hell on the editor, but it feels like it's better to have too much than too little?

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Well. I want to believe.

During this election, Temporal Flux renounced the Republican Party. Despite not being American, I largely identified with Democrats, but I now renounce the Democratic Party. There's nothing particularly democratic about them at all; they've largely been run for the benefit of plutocrats, corporations, banks and other financial institutions.

They make a big show of claiming to care about the working class while facilitating the devastation of their livelihoods while making stumbling overtures in civil rights and health care that turn out to be little more than gestures. Obama and Clinton are really just Democrats in name; they only play Democrats on TV.

I guess, in my head, I justified it by saying that sometimes you give a little to get a little, you go along to get along, the role of corporate enterprise in supposedly democratic political action was an unfortunate evil but that they were better than the alternative -- except this approach has alienated at least half the country and turned the US Presidency over to either an ignoramaus, a madman, or both. This doesn't work. This isn't working.

The GOP terrifies me and the Democratic Party has betrayed me through sheer force of egotistical incompetence, sabotaging a decent candidate to push forward an ineffectual one and now I'm writing ****ing SLIDERS scripts to shore up my ability to get through the day.

Anyway. I'll try it your way.

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Um. Trump just made noted white nationalist Steve Bannon his chief strategist. I don't know how having no filter and a tendency to exaggerate diminishes the racist attitudes in play and in power here.

Uncle Informant, I have some very bad news for you. I am really scared of Donald Trump. I am so terrified that I had to write some script pages of Quinn Mallory telling me how to keep moving forward so that I could fall asleep at night. But Quinn is only a fictional character and he can only go so far, so I will be depending on you heavily to de-escalate the left-leaning hysteria and possibly direct me to some better news sources. I'm frightened and I don't even live in America.

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Well, in Season 1, Thawne said that he and the Flash were enemies who had fought across time and he'd hoped that murdering Nora Allen would traumatize Barry so much that he'd never become the Flash. Thawne's goal has always been to alter his own destiny, although when Barry asked Thawne to explain why he hated Barry so, Thawne replied, "It doesn't matter." This would suggest that all of Thawne's adventures have been to alter his fate of being Barry Allen's antagonist whether it's through killing Barry or changing his timeline.

Season 2 establishes that Thawne's motives are out of jealousy. He was a fan of the Flash, but when travelling back in time to meet him, Thawne discovered history remembered him as his hero's greatest enemy and Thawne's love for Barry became hatred. So, pretty much anything he does in terms of time travel can be considered trying to alter history, alter his destiny.

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"Flashpoint" was a terrible, incoherent, confusing episode and I'm not surprised that Slider_Quinn21 got lost. In terms of what subsequent episodes indicate: after Thawne killed Nora Allen and then mocked Barry that the present would be different, he sped off -- only for his speed force to deplete from his body, just as it did in the original timeline. As a result, the Season 1 - 2 timeline unfolds as we saw but with differences where events and outcomes that depended on random chance experience a second round of variability.

The reason why this does not come through properly: "Flashpoint" has Thawne taunt Barry and then speed off, leaving it completely unclear if he engages in some other villainy or if he loses his speed as he did in the original timeline due to too many time jumps. This is also problematic because the episode that showed Thawne losing his speed in the year 2000 didn't really provide a strong rationale for why his speed vanished, and if the jump to 2000 ran him nearly dry, he shouldn't have had any speed left in "Flashpoint."

I honestly can't believe "Flashpoint" aired the way it did. It should have run in a two hour timeslot. As for Thawne's appearance in LEGENDS -- I'm assuming up to this point that we're seeing the Reverse Flash *before* he killed Barry's mother and got stranded in the 21st century.

In the aftermath of the 2016 US Election, the sliders must weigh their options as circumstances lead to Quinn Mallory confronting the new president-elect.

https://goo.gl/4EiaT8

It is a time-honoured tradition that comic book superheroes meet real-life figures, especially the new US President. In that spirit, I would like to present this 17-page screenplay where the sliders do the same. Rave reviews so far include, "What's the point of this?" and "It's not as long as your other scripts."

While I consider this script to be set after Part 5 of SLIDERS REBORN, EP.COM reasonably and understandably opted out of including this installment, so for the full story on how Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo are alive and well and home, please visit www.earthprime.com/reborn

Special thanks to Jeph Loeb, Joe Casey and Greg Rucka, and I look forward to Informant and Temporal Flux and Slider_Quinn21 possibly rubbishing this screenplay.

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I'm not sure what's worse, the supposedly liberal people protesting with fists and fire or the rash of bigoted and racially motivated assaults from people who feel emboldened by the white supremacist who is their new president. Plenty of bad to go around.

I do wish people wouldn't boil down Hillary Clinton's failure to being a woman. The truth is that the Democratic Party sold out to corporate interests a long time ago, they just had friendlier PR that presented a public facade of concern for equality, civil liberties and acceptance whereas a man like Donald Trump doesn't feel the need to conceal his contempt for minorities and women or his profiteering at the expense of the poor. And I do wish people wouldn't see Trump's ascendance as some sort of successful backlash against the system that system remains completely in power -- just on the other side.

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I have completed the Donald Trump meets Quinn Mallory screenplay and sent it off to someone for review. If they don't consider it a complete and total embarrassment, I will post it here. It's technically part of SLIDERS REBORN, but EarthPrime.com has very reasonably and understandably declined to post a Quinn meets Donald screenplay and that's pretty fair.

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Really happy with SUPERGIRL's take on Alex's sexuality. I thought "Crossfire" was really fun, but a lot of production issues are still apparent, like Kara and Mon-El loudly discussing their secrets in a crowded newsroom (unless the joke is that the newsroom is so busy that they have no need to worry anyone bother to listen in). That said, pretty much every superhero show on the air is a bit detached from physical reality.

ARROW is also going very well this year. I think the problem with Seasons 3 - 4 was that there were too many fantasy elements in addition to the crime in the city stories. The earthquake machine of Season 1 was crazy but workable. The supersoldiers of Season 2 were a bit more detached from reality, yet effective. The key is that these threats exist on an extremely physical, ground-level setting.

But with Season 3, you had immortal leaders of assassin cults, two separate methods of resurrecting dead characters, bafflingly unmotivated characters (R'as is obsessed with Oliver because... ? He wants to destroy Star City because... ?) and then you have Brandon Routh playing Iron Man and flying around in a metal suit.

With Season 4, your villain has magical powers. Somewhere around there, Felicity has become a perfect fantasy woman. The fantasy elements got out of control, although I understand it's hard to tell what's too much and what's not when your lead character's secret identity doesn't wear a mask. I think this season has found the right balance: Ragman's surrounded by otherwise street-level vigilantes, Prometheus fits into ARROW's world of bows and arrows rather than THE FLASH's world of magic and mutants. Church is a thug rather than a faith leader. Felicity has been de-romanticized significantly.

FLASH has recovered nicely from "Flashpoint," but the loss of Tom Cavanaugh as an effective mentor is really unfortunate. Harrison Wells has always been the father figure of the series and it's tough to adjust to him playing the annoying cousin who tests your patience and whose eventual departure is a relief. Wells in Season 1 was like Arturo: the glue of the group. The wise mentor who was too good to be true. And the fact that it was all a lie was heartbreaking.

Wells in Season 2 was a genuine leader and father figure, but with a bitter, caustic edge that was redeemed by his talent and compassion. I would rather keep him around.

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http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/11 … nald-trump

I really love writing like this -- writing where the fictional world briefly intersects with real world elements. I think the main part is also making sure the fictional world can line up with reality just enough for the duration of the story.

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CHUCK's fourth season got extended. The original finale was Chuck proposing marriage to Sarah in the hospital. The extended episode order resulted in the writers coming up with a new 11-episode arc -- essentially a fifth season of the show, except because it served as a sequel to the first 13 episodes' storylines, it still felt like part of Season 4. So Timothy Dalton's defeat in episode 13 led to episodes 14 - 24 introducing Timothy Dalton's daughter and bringing Dalton back as an imprisoned antagonist.

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I've worked out a short SLIDERS story in which Quinn Mallory confronts Trump. This story would slot into the real world without any contradictions. However -- I'm not so great at pastiching Donald Trump's voice. A pastiche requires reviewing lots of footage of the person in order to capture their intonations and body language as well as their vocabulary and I can't bring myself to watch anymore of Trump than I already have. Would anyone be interested in taking the script (it's going to be about 15 - 20 pages) and rewriting all of Trump's dialogue into character?

It's just two scenes: one where Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt, Arturo, Maggie and Diana discuss what they're going to do about the presidency and one where Quinn has a conversation with Trump that doesn't go so great for Quinn, followed by a brief coda at the end.

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I'm re-reading the President Lex Luthor storyline in SUPERMAN comics right now and I'm really heartened by how Clark Kent reacts: he politely congratulates Lex on his victory. In public, Superman maintains his composure. In private, Clark goes between deeply cynical depression and a seething rage, at times struggling to get out of bed in the morning, at others smashing his fists into the moon in frustration. Eventually, he composes both sides into a solemn dignity and a resolute defiance, knowing that respect doesn't preclude dissent and that it's simply a matter of time before a very sick-in-the-head man falls apart and leaves himself open to defeat.

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Informant called Trump crazy. TF renounced the Republican party. The best Slider_Quinn21 had to say was that he was sure Trump would be impeached before he could do any actual damage. I described Trump as Lex Luthor. I think Informant is taking some grim pleasure in seeing Hillary Clinton his archnemesis defeated while being appalled by the Trump presidency. It's hard to say he supports one side or the other when he seems to have a fairly equal level of contempt for both.

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I'm sorry about your back, Informant. Keep us posted.

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I'm currently turning to my SUPERMAN comics for comfort. Specifically, the comics where to Clark Kent's horror, Lex Luthor is elected president. Clark alternates between tolerating this with a solemn dignity to a bleak exasperation, at times contemplating superspeeding into the White House to disappear Luthor and generally accepting that Lex won the election and he has to respect that.

After a failed attempt to expose Luthor costs Clark his job at the Daily Planet, Clark forces himself to focus on his work -- saving people, watching Luthor -- and simply trying to keep a cool disposition and a calm head. Eventually, Luthor's desperation to best Superman is not sated by the presidency and Luthor becomes addicted to a steroid, psychologically implodes, and goes on a deranged rampage in a green and purple suit of armour, is caught on tape describing his war crimes and finally, Superman punches him out of the White House. Ultimately, Lex is a sick man, his own worst enemy and he self-destructs.

I'm not sure who Superman would be in the real-world scenario and I know it's just a comic book, but I'm trying to appreciate Clark's steadiness in troubled times when the US President is a cackling supervillain.

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Well. I decided to reduce the action in the way that Informant advised and got it down to 26 pages. I guess that's okay for a Bondian opening. http://freepdfhosting.com/885454a1c8.pdf

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ireactions wrote:

Oh, I don't know. Informant, here's the first 32 pages. You tell me what I'm doing wrong.

http://freepdfhosting.com/885454a1c8.pdf

ireactions wrote:

Actually, I've worked out a solution. I need to divide the script into episodes and make the episodes like separate chapters of a novel. They'll still be one script, but each segment will have a separate title card. Not a title, I want to keep the "Regenesis" banner, but I'll find a decent quote to start each portion and focus on a specific character or pairing. That way, a 46-page SLIDERS-meets the Marvel Cinematic universe episode can be followed by a lightweight Season 1-esque comedy of mistaken identities, then a David Peckinpah-style detective story, then a pacey science fiction adventure like in Season 2, and then back to the superhero material for the last installment. They'll all, individually, feel like TV episodes.

Informant wrote:

Sounds cool.

Hated the pages, didja?

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Actually, I've worked out a solution. I need to divide the script into episodes and make the episodes like separate chapters of a novel. They'll still be one script, but each segment will have a separate title card. Not a title, I want to keep the "Regenesis" banner, but I'll find a decent quote to start each portion and focus on a specific character or pairing. That way, a 46-page SLIDERS-meets the Marvel Cinematic universe episode can be followed by a lightweight Season 1-esque comedy of mistaken identities, then a David Peckinpah-style detective story, then a pacey science fiction adventure like in Season 2, and then back to the superhero material for the last installment. They'll all, individually, feel like TV episodes.

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Oh, I don't know. Informant, here's the first 32 pages. You tell me what I'm doing wrong.

http://freepdfhosting.com/885454a1c8.pdf

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I'm hitting another weird situation -- the opening is a bit like a James Bond movie where we have an introductory action sequence. They're not supposed to be that long. But this opening action sequence is shaping up to be FORTY PAGES of script. The thing is -- there's a lot more description here than in a real screenplay. If filmed, it would only be 15 minutes. But something that takes twenty seconds to show -- like an office complex of gadgets and a quick-paced fight scene -- is taking a page to describe. This could possibly be a 250 page screenplay when it's done.

I guess this effectively destroys the (fragile) illusion that SLIDERS REBORN is a filmed revival of the series. It's a novel that happens to use the screenplay format.

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Another thing. One key element established in Part 3 is that on Maggie's world, soldiers would be deployed with communications gear where a home base operator would provide the with intel, immediate research, advice and ideas via an earpiece -- like pretty much every superhero show today where you've got Cisco and Dr. Snow giving the Flash advice in his ear.

The sliders work on a similar setup where the home base operator is helping to run the mobile slide system -- except that where in a TV show, you would frequently cut back and forth between the action and the home base, I'm finding that it does not read well on the page. Constantly putting in CUT TO: and a scene heading is going to be too distracting for the reader. As a result, I've put in exactly one shot of the command center and for the rest of it, Maggie and Arturo are simply talking to Quinn via the earpiece and 'off-camera.' Which isn't actually a good visual representation, but it works better in this prose format.

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I'm having a bit of trouble stringing some of my setpieces together. This is something Michael Piller wrote about in his unpublished MAKING OF STAR TREK INSURRECTION book:

There’s a new kind of action writing in Hollywood that I simply don’t know how to do. It begins -- even before a word is put down on paper -- with identifying set pieces, big self-contained action moments that are thrilling and memorable, and then finding some way to string all your set pieces into a coherent narrative.

This approach almost never results in a good movie because it abandons the fundamental demands of storytelling. Of course, I want top-notch visuals and effects, but I don’t go to the movies to see them. I go to see stories about interesting characters.

The opening of the last SLIDERS REBORN script involves Quinn taking on a small army of gunrunners followed by a car chase through the streets of San Francisco. I'm having trouble communicating the chain of logic for why Quinn feels compelled to fight these people or chase down three humvees and a stolen police car, why he doesn't just call the cops and go home or why an investigation into secret weapons caches in San Francisco suddenly becomes a rescue mission. The weird thing is that all these reasons are in the outline itself, but when laying them out in the story, it became necessary to truncate them to throwaway lines of dialogue, just enough to somewhat (or barely) justify the action sequences.

However, the action sequences were not intended as eye candy. The idea is that the fight with the gunrunners could show off how sliding technology has advanced significantly and show off some of the sliding flourishes that Quinn's now capable of -- I needed to set up and show off the sliders' superpowers. The car chase was a way of having the story lay out the surroundings of San Francisco and give a sense of what this now-interdimensional version of San Francisco is like. However, in converting the outline to script, a lot of these details are being reduced to the point of having only enough to get to the next scene and it's a struggle to make sure that the details that stay present are at least the alt-history details.

Ah, screenwriting.

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I wonder about the Kromaggs. Everyone remarks how the Season 4 versions lose all their mystique and they become generic thugs.

But the truth is that the Kromaggs were simply Nazis in "Invasion," it's just that Torme's script made sure that we mostly see them from the sliders' perspective, and they're kept unknowable, distant and terrifying. Once you get up close and start revealing personal backstories, making each Kromagg an individual character and losing the disturbing uniformity of the Kromaggs, you run the same risk of taking the eerily unknown and rendering it knowable, commonplace and dull. And that's a problem even before you start asking about branching and multiple versions of the Kromaggs.

So, ignoring all of Season 4, how would you address the Kromaggs? How do you maintain their mystery? Furthermore, how do you defeat the Kromaggs in the event of needing to wrap up the story and how do you address the issue of branching where mere interdimensional travel alone should create infinite variations on them?

My proposal: there are no Kromaggs. There is only one. The first Kromagg experiments in sliding caused the destruction of their home Earth and ripped all their variants out of reality, leaving behind only one -- a Kromagg who became unstuck like Dr. Oberon Geiger. Unlike Dr. Geiger, this Kromagg found a way to create doubles of himself -- using dimensional mirroring to generate copies who would be anchored in reality. Over time, he created enough doubles to form an army while creating a hive mind between them all -- so the entire Kromagg Dynasty of billions is simply one consciousness spread across multiple beings. Furthermore, this hive mind has come to the conclusion that it's the only living being in reality that is 'real,' everything else is simply a quantum possibility that need not be granted consideration, empathy or understanding.

And then there comes the issue: how would you defeat this hive mind? I'd suggest a psychological attack. Assuming SLIDERS stayed on track and didn't blow up any regular cast members -- maybe around Season 3 or 4, I'd have an episode in which the sliders are hit with a reality warping weapon and spend an episode in our reality where their lives are a TV show. In some future episode, during a mental attack on the sliders, they deliberately 'upload' their memories of this Earth where the Kromaggs are a fictional creation into the Kromagg hive mind. The idea that human writers of fiction could create the Kromaggs causes the hive mind's sense of self to implode and collapse and every Kromagg in every reality becomes catatonic due to an existential crisis.

My other idea is that the sliders would rally an army of fat craving zombies, rock star vampires, giant radioactive slugs, killer robots, malicious amusement parks, cybernetically enhanced pilots, Dream Masters, fire-breathing dragons, intelligent flames, wizards, psychics, animal-human hybrids, breeder parasites, dinosaurs, Morlocks and super-intelligent snakes to fight the Kromaggs.

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Informant's character has me thinking of Saoirse Ronan or Taissa Farmiga.

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The thing about doing a stageplay about a SLIDERS obsessive -- I wonder if my lead character would be a fan of SLIDERS if I'd go the GALAXY QUEST route and make the character a fan of JUMPERS and its lead character, Quintin McConnell. If it's SLIDERS, it ties you to the show more vividly and intimately. If it's JUMPERS, you have the option of potentially hiring someone to play Quintin and let the fan interact with his fictional hero.

The other thing I wonder about -- in order to write a stageplay with conflict and drama, I would need to vastly exaggerate my obsessiveness with SLIDERS. The truth is that I regularly blow SLIDERS off for more important things. I remember Laurie and I sitting down at a market restaurant to work on our projects. But then Laurie started talking about her dead father and my vague grunts in response only seemed to encourage her to keep sharing about him and I put the laptop away and accepted that I would not be getting any scripting done on SLIDERS REBORN because I needed to listen to her talk about her dad.

But, for entertainment purposes, I would probably rewrite that entire scene so that the lead character is so obsessed with SLIDERS that he doesn't notice his friend is trying to share something emotional and important. It would be fictionalized severely. And I would probably make the lead character a woman and ask my stage actress friend Emily to play her because my quirks have always seemed more suited to someone like Emily.

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As I work my way through the final SLIDERS REBORN script while working on a freelance article about indie stage theatre storytelling shows, I'm pondering life after SLIDERS.

I keep thinking that I should write a one-man stageplay show about a lead character who is myopically obsessed with a cancelled TV show at the expense of all else in his life.

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Oh my God! Will you people make your own damned zombie show thread? This is the god-damn STATUS UPDATES thread and unless this WALKING DEAD conversation is going to lead to someone revealing a lengthy struggle with necrophilia, it has to go somewhere else.

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So, I'm setting up an S5. Another one. I'm collaborating with someone on a Christmas gift for a friend. The thing is, as much as I know Informant appreciates Samsung's post-processing and HDR algorithms for flash-free photographic excellence, I deal with absolutely none of it. When I install the Google version of Android on a phone, I lose all of those features. When I deleted Touchwiz from my old S3 and my current S5, I lost the night mode, I lost all the detailed sharpening, I lost the grain reduction, I lost the multi-exposure-merging.

The truth is I don't care about any of that; I like using a flash and I like the texture of grain on photos and I tend to run every photo through Photoshop anyway for flash glare reduction. All those fancy camera features are part of the Touchwiz ROM and without it -- well, you still have a terrific Samsung lens and shutter and that's really all I need. However, after the future recipient ranted about photography a couple days ago, I realized that she would not be happy with losing all of Samsung's camera features. But I also know that she hates Touchwiz.

So, I'm currently in the process of reflashing the phone with the original firmware and OS and I'm going to see if I can work with a new Samsung App called Good Lock. Good Lock is apparently Samsung's new app (well, it's been around since at least April) that lets you theme Touchwiz and it seems that some of that theming can create a Nexus style look. Hopefully, with that and Xposed and rooting, I can get most of the Google style function on the phone while still keeping Samsung's camera app.

I wanted to see if Good Lock could go on the S4, but it seems you need Android 6 for that and the S4 was never updated that far. Damn. But it does have me wondering -- how vital is lowlight photography without a flash? Someone asked me to help them figure out if the Moto X Play was a worthwhile phone for their photography needs. The reviews are all universal: the camera is beautiful in daylight hours, hopeless in low light. But all those low light reviews are taken without a flash. Is it really reasonable to review how a camera performs in night conditions when the flash is turned off?

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Another thing I liked -- they wrote Cat out really well. Obviously, it's because they were losing the actress as a regular and it wasn't a natural story direction. But it really made sense of why Cat could be so caustic and unpleasant in Season 1 despite clearly having a lot of integrity and care in her. Her exit story makes it clear: Cat was bored. She wasn't being sufficiently challenged at Catco.

As a result, she had begun to regard nearly every aspect of her work and staff with tired disdain. I wonder if it was intentional or not, but Callista Flockhart's irritated line delivery when Kara bring Cat a latte and Cat sarcastically saying "That'll be new and different" completely fits this exit plot. Did they plan it all along? (Of course not.)

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This wasn't established terribly well, but Kara is trying to emulate Clark a bit more by dressing like him in her civilian life. But regardless. I'm not blind to SUPERGIRL's faults, but it has a certain earnest love for humanity and superheroes that makes leaves me untroubled by its flaws.

The Lynda Carter performance was seriously off and no reviewers seem to have picked up on how poor her acting has become. The truth is that Carter was never a great actress, but what skills she had -- being comfortable in a ridiculous outfit and projecting effortless confidence on camera -- were uniquely suited to playing Wonder Woman in a TV show as Carter's somewhat distant screen presence was suited to Wonder Woman being a stranger in a strange land.

But the President is a very different role and Carter can't be an offbeat outsider; the script requires that she be endearing and charming on sight and that she can recite hollow platitudes about hope in a completely convincing, totally earnest, utterly sincere fashion. It doesn't come off that way; her line, "How can hope be false?" gives me the impression the actress doesn't really grasp the subtleties available for her delivery; her speech made me feel like she doesn't grasp how to weigh and pace words and sentences for oratory.

This is not a role for a former model and singer who hasn't received any real training in acting, who hasn't refined her abilities with experience. For this role, production either needed to hire Carter an acting coach on how to be convincing as a politician or hire someone else -- someone like Allison Janney who can come off as an experienced, world-weary politician who can be heartfelt and truthful. Or Gina Torres, who can present authority and regality while being totally earnest. Or Dina Meyer or Carrie Anne Moss. This is a job for a real actress and Lynda Carter is awesome in many ways, but she's not an actress.

I think the show should return as a web series focused entirely on the staff of a hamburger restaurant. Quinn works the grill, Wade is the janitor, Rembrandt's on the counter and Arturo is the manager. They are the staff of SLIDERS.

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SUPERGIRL has been a lot of fun and I find the grousing about Superman saying "your language" in one sentence to be incredibly pedantic, and I say that as someone who spent two weeks trying to come up with an in-universe explanation for SLIDERS episodes airing out of order. I was enjoying the Metallo fight scenes too much to worry about the makeup, although J'onn giving up all his Kryptonite and Superman being so unhappy about the DEO having it struck me as absurd. I liked the third episode too and while I did indeed think Winn was going to be gay, I guess it's going to be Alex and the Maxwell Lord fauxmance is truly over. I found Lynda Carter's performance oddly charmless and lacking in layers, although that may have been the point. Regardless, the President's appearance finally explained why the hell J'onn was permitted to continue operating the DEO on her command back in Season 1's finale.

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I think the voiceovers at the start are cool, but I say that as someone who continues to think that the SLIDERS Season 2 opening is the coolest piece of television ever created. I wonder what SLIDERS would be like with a Berlanti voiceover and since I did an X-FILES pastiche of a SLIDERS voiceover, let's have a Berlanti pastiche:

My name is Quinn Mallory. When I was in college, I created a gateway to parallel universes. But then an accident ripped me out of reality itself. Today, the world at large knows me as an ordinary engineer at a hamburger company. But secretly, my friends and I use our knowledge to protect our world and find other visitors like me. We saved the multiverse from total destruction, but in doing so, we opened all realities to new threats. And we are the only ones who know what's out there; we're the only ones with any hope of stopping them. We are the Sliders.

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They storyboards are amazingly cool and really showcase the love and care that went into the Pilot, although I question whether 20-year-olds in the 90s used expressions like "Not hardly."

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While the DVDs are indeed a video quality disappointment -- I find my upscaling and deinterlacing techniques seem to work a lot better with the Mill Creek set than the Universal set. The Universal set episodes constantly filled the screen with scanlines from deinterlacing errors. The Mill Creek set looks clearer, and while the detail has diminished, the detail in the earlier release was obscured by horizontal lines anyway. My blu-ray player upscales the image to a 1080p resolution with a subtle sharpening that makes it work -- well, mostly. I generally dim the backlight on my TV significantly, but when I put it up to full, the episodes looked washed out and overexposed. 

It looks like a 480 image upscaled to the glorious heights of totally adequate.

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I'm not really a horror fan, so I tend to think all horror is terrible whether it is or isn't.

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This election cycle has me wondering if I should take a hard look at my life, document every single potential scandal and put it online with apologies and descriptions of corrective measures taken so that it won't come back to haunt me in a decade.

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So, I rooted the phone, installed Cyanogenmod 13 (Marshmallow), installed Google Camera -- and all my photographs were a blurry mess. I examined the camera lens on the back. It was covered in scratches. I adjusted the focus to see if the lens could focus past the scuffs and embedded marks in the lens. It didn't work. The phone ran great except the very feature I wanted -- a decent camera with image stabilization -- was hopeless. I called the warehouse to protest. They informed me that the phone was an open-box return resold to me (hence the low price), that it had never been used and any damage was my own doing and they could not help me. They referred me to a repair service, saying it would be a cheap repair to replace the lens. I vowed a vengeful reprisal upon their business via Yelp and Google reviews and they hung up on me.

I visited the repair shop in the morning and handed over the phone. The technician briefly examined the camera lens and then carefully peeled off the scratched and distorted protective sticker that was on top of the lens.

I have to go back to the warehouse later in the afternoon to apologize and buy them some coffee and donuts.

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My research is more specific. For example, in Part 3, there's a scene where Quinn looks around the city and immediately determines that there's an undiscovered WWII bomb shelter the sliders can go to for safety.

The outline did not specify how Quinn knew that -- I decided I'd just figure it out when writing the script, but at that point, I got stuck, couldn't figure it out, looked blankly at photos of San Francisco, spent a day pondering it before working out a solution where Quinn notices that a missing building on the skyline means the foundations were never dug and the bomb shelter is undiscovered.

Later in Part 3, Quinn looks around a coffee shop and the outline says, "He uses the Sherlock Scan to tell that the whole world is suffering from an ecological crisis." When I got there in the script, I spent two days trying to figure out how Quinn would do this and fretted and got stuck and it just drained me. With Part 6, we've got San Francisco being attacked, so I thought it best to know the names of different neighbourhoods and have basic descriptive detail for them.

And then there's also the sliders' feats of brilliance. In Part 3, I wrote that they successfully stop the destruction of the multiverse, but I hadn't fully worked out a solution yet and thought I'd improvise when I got there only to get stuck and Transmodiar had to bail me out of that one. So for Part 6's outline, I did what I did before and wrote in vagaries ("Rembrandt uses peanuts to stop the animal human hybrids"), but then I went back and made sure to actually write out the solution step by step so I wouldn't have to think of it in the moment of writing the scene in full length script. Hopefully, this will mean a smoother process for this draft.

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In other news, despite claiming I would stick with my Moto G3, I decided to buy one of those cheap Samsung S5s I've been encouraging Informant to get. I had a bad experience with my G3 this week. I was at an event as a photographer, but due to an incident involving a cat and the curb, I cracked my camera lens. Not the lens, really, just the external filter, but it couldn't be removed immediately and I had no camera to do my job. So I used my phone. The photos were unacceptable. I guess the Moto G3 is fine for still shots and posed photography, but for event photography in an indoor space with light coming not from bulbs but windows, the G3 just flat out failed. Every image was blurry and mislit, nothing was in focus and thankfully, at the halfway mark, a colleague asked me why I was using my phone and loaned me her camera.

Since then, I've been finding myself increasingly irritated with the Moto G3's occasional freezes, brief pauses, moments of lag -- all the stuff you deal with when your phone is a budget model with limited memory augmented by a microSD. These things didn't bother me before because the phone got the job done as my voice recorder / notepad / navigational device / calendar / alarm -- but it let me down as a camera and now everything that seemed acceptable about it seemed unacceptable, especially when the Samsung S5 was on sale at a nearby warehouse at shockingly low prices.

So, I have left the world of 8GB Android phones with slow processors and 1GB of memory and gone back to a flagship, albeit a flagship of 2014. But it's cool. The S5 is like Sharon Stone; not the hot new thing anymore and admittedly past prime time, but as capable today as back in the day and more than up to any challenge other than Samsung Pay. This phone's waterproof and I got one-day shipping on a case and tempered glass protector, so I'm sure it'll survive. I'll keep the Moto G3 as a backup.

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... okay. So, for a very long time, I've been working on the last outline for SLIDERS REBORN. The story was fine and the general outline and overview was complete. But I often didn't have the fine details in place for how to get in and out of each scene or the geographical and regional information for each location or the exact background information for each alternate history or the specific means of illustrating it.

For the last five installments, I always came up with that while I was writing the script and it led to exhaustion and burnout. I tried to do all that research and preparation upfront this time so that when scripting, I could focus on dialogue and physical action rather than trying to work out which San Francisco neighbourhood we're in and where the rope came from. "Quinn solves the situation with his usual braininess" often left things vague and while it was neat to improvise on the spot, it was also very tiring. This time, all the solutions are in the outline.

At this point, I've put in all the details -- "Quinn stops a runaway car with a muffin" has been fully expanded into a proper solution, the location of the Sliders Incorporated office has been selected and all the surrounding details of that particular neighbourhood in San Francisco is in place. I know what all the characters are wearing.

I'm going to start writing the script now, and aim to try to complete at least 4 - 5 pages a day. This will be my final SLIDERS script. Wish me luck!

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Oh GOD. Is this my life now? Spending stupid amounts of time talking about ****ing James O'Keefe? I want to die.

The Attorney General confirmed that Vera contacted the police in their investigation and report with their findings from reviewing the full, unedited footage. The full Vera videos show Vera asking for O'Keefe's contact information, times, dates, locations and all of O'Keefe's plans for human trafficking, showing him gathering as much information as possible -- but O'Keefe cut all that in his video so that he could emphasize Vera's apparent willingness to assist in slavery. In other ACORN interviews, O'Keefe and Gilles were met with either information-gathering tactics, stalling, referring them to victims groups and outright refusals of involvement -- all of which would have made it blindingly clear to O'Keefe that ACORN wasn't going to help human traffickers. Instead. O'Keefe edited his footage to present the opposite. In one case an ACORN employee encouraging someone to keep trying to find a place to live was re-positioned as encouragement for creating a human smuggling ring.

O'Keefe's intro is deliberately placed to mislead the viewer to think he wore the fur coat and absurd outfit into ACORN's offices. It's meant to mislead. O'Keefe omitting any footage where ACORN workers offered Gilles help or declared they would not help is again a deceit designed to smear ACORN regardless of truth or facts.

There is no sensible argument to be made that O'Keefe genuinely thought ACORN was a human trafficking operation or that O'Keefe's recontextualizing wasn't purposely designed to fool the audience, and this approach is to be found in all his subsequent work. There's his Medicaid 'interviews' where the edited videos show his trained monkeys successfully scamming for medical care -- while the full footage shows them being asked to leave.

There's the environmentalist groups where O'Keefe's voiceover describes how these groups all accept money from fossil fuel companies and then we hear environmentalist administrators going through a list of all the organizations that take such donations -- except the full footage makes it clear they're just listing off other environmentalist groups they worth with. The NPR interviews show an NPR exec declaring Republicans racist when the full version has the man talking about his Republican heritage, his own conservatism and how he had a conversation with two Republicans and he recounts their reasons for why they voted Obama -- which O'Keefe re-edited to make it seem like this was the the man's own viewpoint.

I've been through the O'Keefe spin-cycle of scandal too many times, I would not trust this man to tell me that water is wet.

Ugh. Talking about O'Keefe makes me sick. This is his Wikipedia Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe

Believe what you want. I'm going to go take a long shower to wash O'Keefe off me.

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Informant, I apologize. I've made a mistake. James O'Keefe was a Breitbart employee and the Vera 'scandal' was published on Breitbart in 2009. And yes, they were fraudulent -- O'Keefe intercut footage of himself shot after his conversation with Vera in which O'Keefe dressed up in an absurd outfit and asked more explicitly criminal questions in order to make Vera's responses look more disturbing, and then the intercut footage was presented as the actual conversation on the website.

The Shirley Sherrod video went on Brietbart in 2010 and at the time, most critics including myself thought they were more of James O'Keefe's manipulative editing as it fit his style entirely by choosing select portions of dialogue, intercutting in order to manipulate the conversation and to make someone look bad. The majority of internet coverage at the time accredited the phony editing to O'Keefe as he seemed to be the go-to person for Breitbart's smear videos -- but upon review today, this was never verified and O'Keefe denies he was involved, so it's unreasonable to put this on his list.

However... I'm still going to have to point to the faked Vera videos, the doctored NPR interviews (which were debunked as manipulatively edited and contextualized once full versions were reviewed), an edited video that shows an actor easily scamming a Maine Medicaid office (the full version shows the actor failed to do so), a video of environmentalists talking about other organizations they work with adjusted with voiceover to claim all these mentioned organizations take payoffs from oil companies -- the man is simply a scam artist and it's beyond me how despite a long history of deception, he isn't instantly dismissed. This is what he does. He lures people, films them saying lots of things, edits material into something incriminating and presents a smoking gun that's inevitably exposed as a fake.

But I apologize for the Sherrod error. Do I think O'Keefe made it? Yes, but I mis-remembered this as a fact when it's simply a suspicion. Thank you for the correction. But I really don't think this man is your conservative knight in armour. You can do better. I'm going to go back to the ARROW thread now. Best of luck on November 8.

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I think I'm going to back out of this area of discussion now because pointing out to someone that James O'Keefe is a fraud and a liar is like pointing out to them that autism isn't caused by vaccines. It's simply not going to go anywhere; our positions are what they are.

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I'm glad Slider_Quinn21 appreciated Quinn wading into politics. I think what really works about Quinn's opinion and why I like his character so much -- Quinn would never tell you who to vote for, he would only give you some thoughts as to a strategy on how to make up your own mind.

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O'Keefe was Breitbart's protege in this sort of 'journalism' and he and Breitbart were partners in the Sherrod affair, having been working together since 2009.

As for Vera, he was following the appropriate procedures for dealing with someone proposing human trafficking, which O'Keefe knew full well. If someone comes into your office and wants you to help them sell people into slavery, you play along, collect every piece of info you can, then call the cops, which Vera did. O'Keefe knew full well that he was misrepresenting a man doing exactly what anyone should do in that situation. O'Keefe's other big 'hit' is fraudulent NPR recordings where he re-edited conversations to make it seem like they were accepting money from terrorist organizations.

Unlike previous endeavours, however, this time, James O'Keefe is point blank refusing to release the unedited footage and recordings. This alone should be enough to instantly discredit him even more than he's already been discredited; he doesn't want scrutiny of his evidence, meaning his evidence is bogus.

Anyone who lends credence to James O'Keefe's claims and assertions is doing so not because he's in any way credible or trustworthy, but because he's telling them something they want to hear, something they want to believe so badly that they'll set aside any questions of his ridiculous past and his inane methods and his manipulative editing in order to believe what they've decided to believe. It's, admittedly, the same motivations that lead to people seeing Hillary Clinton as an unquestionable icon of feminism, achievement and freedom.

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Is there voter fraud? I do think so, but is it possible to organize it effectively to impact a US Presidential election in the fashion that it could make a difference? Not in the ways O'Keefe claims. The country's too big and spread out; O'Keefe's described techniques for rigging may seem simple (bus people around to vote under false identities) but would be so convoluted to set up that you couldn't possibly get the number of false identities and willing participants and successful outcomes in place to pull it off at any significant scale. The reports of actual, verified voter fraud show it to be incredibly minute and irrelevant although no less an attack on liberty and freedom.

As for O'Keefe, his 'work' on Shirley Sharrod and Juan Carlos Vera where he edited their footage to make them seem racist and to be a human trafficker -- his fraud is a matter of public record. In the case of Sharrod, she was fired from her job at the US Department of Agriculture. Then the videos were reviewed in full and her 'racism' was shown to be her describing attitudes she didn't agree with. She received a full apology from the US Government and the offer of a new position. With Vera, police officers had records showing that he immediately called the authorities to report potential human trafficking. He sued O'Keefe and O'Keefe paid out $100,000. You can Google it yourself and it's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to O'Keefe being completely dishonest and untrustworthy. I would sooner trust pilight to give me constructive criticism.

Currently, there is no proof that his latest work is fraudulent, but considering he's never produced anything that wasn't, he has accumulated sufficient reason to dismiss his material given his past history.

I don't really have the time to gather and present further research to you to bolster what is a known, proven, and very validated set of criticisms against O'Keefe and his 'journalistic' practices; it's all out there on the internet anyway, Informant. If you don't agree with the truckload of courtcases and wrongful firings where O'Keefe's lies were later exposed, you and I will simply have to do what we usually do -- shake hands, agree to disagree and move on to this week's ARROW.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I'm seriously considering using my vote to express how much of a joke this election is....and voting for a dead gorilla.  Or maybe I'll vote for Quinn Mallory.

The fact that we can't even get good third party candidates makes me think we need to tear the whole presidential process down and start over.  No one good wants the job.  Just moron after moron after moron.

            INT. APARTMENT - AFTERNOON

            Ib goes to his door and open it to find himself staring at
            the face of Jerry O'Connell. Instantly enraged, Ib makes a
            fist and prepares to swing --

                                     IB
                         You treacherous, ungrateful,
                         backstabbing piece of --

                                     QUINN
                         Whoa, whoa, whoa! It's me!

                                     IB
                         Oh. Quinn.
                               (instantly relaxing)
                         So sorry. Thought you were the other
                         guy.

                                     QUINN
                         This has been happening all day. On
                         the flight to get here, women kept
                         throwing drinks in my face. At the
                         airport, this one lady punched me in
                         the stomach. She looked like Sabrina
                         the Teenaged Witch.

                                     IB
                         Melissa Joan Hart! So awesome! D'you
                         think she's in town for a show and
                         that is not what's important right
                         now! Come in, come in -- what can I
                         do for you?

                                     QUINN
                         Well, I saw on the Sliders.tv message
                         board that your friend Slider_Quinn21
                         is so depressed about the election
                         that he's thinking of writing "Quinn
                         Mallory" on his ballot. Please ask
                         him not to do that.

                                     IB
                         He's got no good options, Q-Ball!
                         We're lucky he's not voting for
                         Donald Trump; we can't ask him to
                         vote for Hillary Clinton if he
                         doesn't support her --

                                     QUINN
                         I understand the burden in a
                         democratic process where there's no
                         good choices in front of you. I have
                         two responses for him.

                                     IB
                         Two? Why two?

                                     QUINN
                         The first: due to the Electoral
                         Colleges and rampant gerrymandering,
                         he could fairly consider the act of
                         voting meaningless since across 535
                         congregational districts, only 18 are
                         swing jurisdictions.

                                     IB
                         Ohhhh, Americans.

                                     QUINN
                         Slider_Quinn21 could reasonably stay
                         home and keep out of it. However,
                         following this line of thinking, the
                         Professor would say that any
                         abstinence from the electoral
                         procedure is an abdication of one's
                         entitlement to lamentation with
                         regards to political undertaking.

                                     IB
                         Huh?

                                     QUINN
                         If he doesn't vote, he can't
                         complain.

                                     IB
                         You realize, you just basically said
                         nothing whatsoever.

                                     QUINN
                         So if we discard the option of not
                         participating, your friend's best
                         route for participating without
                         supporting candidates he doesn't
                         agree with is to vote for whichever
                         of the six is least likely to win.

                                     IB
                         The dude with the tiger zoo? The dude
                         with the tiger zoo!

                                     QUINN
                         Yes. The dude with the tiger zoo. Go
                         with Joe Exotic. Then your friend has
                         done his due diligence and I'll
                         respect him.

            This has been a public service announcement for
            Slider_Quinn21 paid for by the What Would Quinn Mallory Do
            Campaign.

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Hmm. I have a number of lady friends and they are all, without exception, pretty much like Jill Stein. I adore my Jill Steins, but I wouldn't want any of them to be President. I could see them in some department of arts and culture. If they were to run for President, I would politely explain why I think this is not their calling. There was a point to this rambling, but it has temporarily escaped my mind, so please instead enjoy John Oliver's take on how you all have a very tough choice ahead of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU

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While I don't doubt that Trump's volatile lack of self-control won Clinton her presidency, I think it is grossly disproportionate to hold Bill Clinton responsible for Trump serving as the Republican nominee. This is a political party who decided that the best person to represent their values, their philosophies, their strategies and their methods for how to govern would be a failed businessman bailed out by his father whose successes came through hiring contractors and securing investments in collapsed enterprises where the contractors and investors would suffer while Trump walked away with the money he owed them and the money they'd paid him. A man who can't focus on a conversation for me than 10 minutes at a time. A person who was infamous for sexual harassment and bragged about it on Howard Stern's radioshow, a man who ran a fraudulent university where the main product was getting to pose next to a cardboard cutout of him for photos. A conman with a crappy TV show and a supposed billionaire whose campaign hats are poorly stitched and whose untailored suits don't fit.

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On the subject of voter fraud, if anything, Project Veritas is attacking fair and democratic elections by using O'Keefe's usual methods of misleadingly edited footage (as he always has) to undermine trust, faith and confidence in a voting system that is a model of equality and trustworthiness. Even if every single one of O'Keefe's claims were true, you could not possibly steal a Presidential election in this fashion because you could not possibly create enough false identities for multiple voting with registered names in order to sway the results in a contest of this size, nor could you monitor the supposed fraudulent voters to ensure they voted as instructed, nor could the massive expense for so little numerical gain make any possible sense.

You would have to be the stupidest person alive to try to steal a Presidential election by bussing the same groups of people to different jurisdictions.

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James O'Keefe's fraudulent videos have caused many people to lose their jobs. State Director for Rural Development Shirley Sherrod was forced to resign for making racist remarks as seen in an O'Keefe filmed video. The full video, later released, showed that Sherrod's story had been about initially racist thinking that she had overcome and made sure not to affect her job -- but O'Keefe exerpted and edited the video so that the attitudes Sherrod refuted appeared to be the ones by which she worked. Juan Carlos Vera also lost his job due to O'Keefe manipulating video to make it seem like Vera was engaged in human trafficking when Vera was humouring an apparent trafficker and then promptly called the police. And that's only two of many cases where O'Keefe's video, once gathered in full, was found to have been edited specifically to alter the hypothetical into the seemingly factual or taking views that the speaker was criticizing and presenting them as views that the speaker was presenting as their own.

It's what O'Keefe did before and is doing again and we're simply in the middle of the story where we've yet to see the full material in which his lies will be exposed.

I agree with you that any voter fraud is outrageous especially given the many people who sacrificed and often died to create a less horrific version of humanity in which we all participate in a free and fair electoral process. But I think that any claims that Presidential elections are or can be rigged are absurd and in the same realm of calling 9/11 an inside job or Barack Obama an illegal immigrant or suggesting Coca Cola has some secret formula that is anything other than sugar.