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... okay. So, for a very long time, I've been working on the last outline for SLIDERS REBORN. The story was fine and the general outline and overview was complete. But I often didn't have the fine details in place for how to get in and out of each scene or the geographical and regional information for each location or the exact background information for each alternate history or the specific means of illustrating it.

For the last five installments, I always came up with that while I was writing the script and it led to exhaustion and burnout. I tried to do all that research and preparation upfront this time so that when scripting, I could focus on dialogue and physical action rather than trying to work out which San Francisco neighbourhood we're in and where the rope came from. "Quinn solves the situation with his usual braininess" often left things vague and while it was neat to improvise on the spot, it was also very tiring. This time, all the solutions are in the outline.

At this point, I've put in all the details -- "Quinn stops a runaway car with a muffin" has been fully expanded into a proper solution, the location of the Sliders Incorporated office has been selected and all the surrounding details of that particular neighbourhood in San Francisco is in place. I know what all the characters are wearing.

I'm going to start writing the script now, and aim to try to complete at least 4 - 5 pages a day. This will be my final SLIDERS script. Wish me luck!

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Oh GOD. Is this my life now? Spending stupid amounts of time talking about ****ing James O'Keefe? I want to die.

The Attorney General confirmed that Vera contacted the police in their investigation and report with their findings from reviewing the full, unedited footage. The full Vera videos show Vera asking for O'Keefe's contact information, times, dates, locations and all of O'Keefe's plans for human trafficking, showing him gathering as much information as possible -- but O'Keefe cut all that in his video so that he could emphasize Vera's apparent willingness to assist in slavery. In other ACORN interviews, O'Keefe and Gilles were met with either information-gathering tactics, stalling, referring them to victims groups and outright refusals of involvement -- all of which would have made it blindingly clear to O'Keefe that ACORN wasn't going to help human traffickers. Instead. O'Keefe edited his footage to present the opposite. In one case an ACORN employee encouraging someone to keep trying to find a place to live was re-positioned as encouragement for creating a human smuggling ring.

O'Keefe's intro is deliberately placed to mislead the viewer to think he wore the fur coat and absurd outfit into ACORN's offices. It's meant to mislead. O'Keefe omitting any footage where ACORN workers offered Gilles help or declared they would not help is again a deceit designed to smear ACORN regardless of truth or facts.

There is no sensible argument to be made that O'Keefe genuinely thought ACORN was a human trafficking operation or that O'Keefe's recontextualizing wasn't purposely designed to fool the audience, and this approach is to be found in all his subsequent work. There's his Medicaid 'interviews' where the edited videos show his trained monkeys successfully scamming for medical care -- while the full footage shows them being asked to leave.

There's the environmentalist groups where O'Keefe's voiceover describes how these groups all accept money from fossil fuel companies and then we hear environmentalist administrators going through a list of all the organizations that take such donations -- except the full footage makes it clear they're just listing off other environmentalist groups they worth with. The NPR interviews show an NPR exec declaring Republicans racist when the full version has the man talking about his Republican heritage, his own conservatism and how he had a conversation with two Republicans and he recounts their reasons for why they voted Obama -- which O'Keefe re-edited to make it seem like this was the the man's own viewpoint.

I've been through the O'Keefe spin-cycle of scandal too many times, I would not trust this man to tell me that water is wet.

Ugh. Talking about O'Keefe makes me sick. This is his Wikipedia Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe

Believe what you want. I'm going to go take a long shower to wash O'Keefe off me.

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Informant, I apologize. I've made a mistake. James O'Keefe was a Breitbart employee and the Vera 'scandal' was published on Breitbart in 2009. And yes, they were fraudulent -- O'Keefe intercut footage of himself shot after his conversation with Vera in which O'Keefe dressed up in an absurd outfit and asked more explicitly criminal questions in order to make Vera's responses look more disturbing, and then the intercut footage was presented as the actual conversation on the website.

The Shirley Sherrod video went on Brietbart in 2010 and at the time, most critics including myself thought they were more of James O'Keefe's manipulative editing as it fit his style entirely by choosing select portions of dialogue, intercutting in order to manipulate the conversation and to make someone look bad. The majority of internet coverage at the time accredited the phony editing to O'Keefe as he seemed to be the go-to person for Breitbart's smear videos -- but upon review today, this was never verified and O'Keefe denies he was involved, so it's unreasonable to put this on his list.

However... I'm still going to have to point to the faked Vera videos, the doctored NPR interviews (which were debunked as manipulatively edited and contextualized once full versions were reviewed), an edited video that shows an actor easily scamming a Maine Medicaid office (the full version shows the actor failed to do so), a video of environmentalists talking about other organizations they work with adjusted with voiceover to claim all these mentioned organizations take payoffs from oil companies -- the man is simply a scam artist and it's beyond me how despite a long history of deception, he isn't instantly dismissed. This is what he does. He lures people, films them saying lots of things, edits material into something incriminating and presents a smoking gun that's inevitably exposed as a fake.

But I apologize for the Sherrod error. Do I think O'Keefe made it? Yes, but I mis-remembered this as a fact when it's simply a suspicion. Thank you for the correction. But I really don't think this man is your conservative knight in armour. You can do better. I'm going to go back to the ARROW thread now. Best of luck on November 8.

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I think I'm going to back out of this area of discussion now because pointing out to someone that James O'Keefe is a fraud and a liar is like pointing out to them that autism isn't caused by vaccines. It's simply not going to go anywhere; our positions are what they are.

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I'm glad Slider_Quinn21 appreciated Quinn wading into politics. I think what really works about Quinn's opinion and why I like his character so much -- Quinn would never tell you who to vote for, he would only give you some thoughts as to a strategy on how to make up your own mind.

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O'Keefe was Breitbart's protege in this sort of 'journalism' and he and Breitbart were partners in the Sherrod affair, having been working together since 2009.

As for Vera, he was following the appropriate procedures for dealing with someone proposing human trafficking, which O'Keefe knew full well. If someone comes into your office and wants you to help them sell people into slavery, you play along, collect every piece of info you can, then call the cops, which Vera did. O'Keefe knew full well that he was misrepresenting a man doing exactly what anyone should do in that situation. O'Keefe's other big 'hit' is fraudulent NPR recordings where he re-edited conversations to make it seem like they were accepting money from terrorist organizations.

Unlike previous endeavours, however, this time, James O'Keefe is point blank refusing to release the unedited footage and recordings. This alone should be enough to instantly discredit him even more than he's already been discredited; he doesn't want scrutiny of his evidence, meaning his evidence is bogus.

Anyone who lends credence to James O'Keefe's claims and assertions is doing so not because he's in any way credible or trustworthy, but because he's telling them something they want to hear, something they want to believe so badly that they'll set aside any questions of his ridiculous past and his inane methods and his manipulative editing in order to believe what they've decided to believe. It's, admittedly, the same motivations that lead to people seeing Hillary Clinton as an unquestionable icon of feminism, achievement and freedom.

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Is there voter fraud? I do think so, but is it possible to organize it effectively to impact a US Presidential election in the fashion that it could make a difference? Not in the ways O'Keefe claims. The country's too big and spread out; O'Keefe's described techniques for rigging may seem simple (bus people around to vote under false identities) but would be so convoluted to set up that you couldn't possibly get the number of false identities and willing participants and successful outcomes in place to pull it off at any significant scale. The reports of actual, verified voter fraud show it to be incredibly minute and irrelevant although no less an attack on liberty and freedom.

As for O'Keefe, his 'work' on Shirley Sharrod and Juan Carlos Vera where he edited their footage to make them seem racist and to be a human trafficker -- his fraud is a matter of public record. In the case of Sharrod, she was fired from her job at the US Department of Agriculture. Then the videos were reviewed in full and her 'racism' was shown to be her describing attitudes she didn't agree with. She received a full apology from the US Government and the offer of a new position. With Vera, police officers had records showing that he immediately called the authorities to report potential human trafficking. He sued O'Keefe and O'Keefe paid out $100,000. You can Google it yourself and it's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to O'Keefe being completely dishonest and untrustworthy. I would sooner trust pilight to give me constructive criticism.

Currently, there is no proof that his latest work is fraudulent, but considering he's never produced anything that wasn't, he has accumulated sufficient reason to dismiss his material given his past history.

I don't really have the time to gather and present further research to you to bolster what is a known, proven, and very validated set of criticisms against O'Keefe and his 'journalistic' practices; it's all out there on the internet anyway, Informant. If you don't agree with the truckload of courtcases and wrongful firings where O'Keefe's lies were later exposed, you and I will simply have to do what we usually do -- shake hands, agree to disagree and move on to this week's ARROW.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I'm seriously considering using my vote to express how much of a joke this election is....and voting for a dead gorilla.  Or maybe I'll vote for Quinn Mallory.

The fact that we can't even get good third party candidates makes me think we need to tear the whole presidential process down and start over.  No one good wants the job.  Just moron after moron after moron.

            INT. APARTMENT - AFTERNOON

            Ib goes to his door and open it to find himself staring at
            the face of Jerry O'Connell. Instantly enraged, Ib makes a
            fist and prepares to swing --

                                     IB
                         You treacherous, ungrateful,
                         backstabbing piece of --

                                     QUINN
                         Whoa, whoa, whoa! It's me!

                                     IB
                         Oh. Quinn.
                               (instantly relaxing)
                         So sorry. Thought you were the other
                         guy.

                                     QUINN
                         This has been happening all day. On
                         the flight to get here, women kept
                         throwing drinks in my face. At the
                         airport, this one lady punched me in
                         the stomach. She looked like Sabrina
                         the Teenaged Witch.

                                     IB
                         Melissa Joan Hart! So awesome! D'you
                         think she's in town for a show and
                         that is not what's important right
                         now! Come in, come in -- what can I
                         do for you?

                                     QUINN
                         Well, I saw on the Sliders.tv message
                         board that your friend Slider_Quinn21
                         is so depressed about the election
                         that he's thinking of writing "Quinn
                         Mallory" on his ballot. Please ask
                         him not to do that.

                                     IB
                         He's got no good options, Q-Ball!
                         We're lucky he's not voting for
                         Donald Trump; we can't ask him to
                         vote for Hillary Clinton if he
                         doesn't support her --

                                     QUINN
                         I understand the burden in a
                         democratic process where there's no
                         good choices in front of you. I have
                         two responses for him.

                                     IB
                         Two? Why two?

                                     QUINN
                         The first: due to the Electoral
                         Colleges and rampant gerrymandering,
                         he could fairly consider the act of
                         voting meaningless since across 535
                         congregational districts, only 18 are
                         swing jurisdictions.

                                     IB
                         Ohhhh, Americans.

                                     QUINN
                         Slider_Quinn21 could reasonably stay
                         home and keep out of it. However,
                         following this line of thinking, the
                         Professor would say that any
                         abstinence from the electoral
                         procedure is an abdication of one's
                         entitlement to lamentation with
                         regards to political undertaking.

                                     IB
                         Huh?

                                     QUINN
                         If he doesn't vote, he can't
                         complain.

                                     IB
                         You realize, you just basically said
                         nothing whatsoever.

                                     QUINN
                         So if we discard the option of not
                         participating, your friend's best
                         route for participating without
                         supporting candidates he doesn't
                         agree with is to vote for whichever
                         of the six is least likely to win.

                                     IB
                         The dude with the tiger zoo? The dude
                         with the tiger zoo!

                                     QUINN
                         Yes. The dude with the tiger zoo. Go
                         with Joe Exotic. Then your friend has
                         done his due diligence and I'll
                         respect him.

            This has been a public service announcement for
            Slider_Quinn21 paid for by the What Would Quinn Mallory Do
            Campaign.

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Hmm. I have a number of lady friends and they are all, without exception, pretty much like Jill Stein. I adore my Jill Steins, but I wouldn't want any of them to be President. I could see them in some department of arts and culture. If they were to run for President, I would politely explain why I think this is not their calling. There was a point to this rambling, but it has temporarily escaped my mind, so please instead enjoy John Oliver's take on how you all have a very tough choice ahead of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU

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While I don't doubt that Trump's volatile lack of self-control won Clinton her presidency, I think it is grossly disproportionate to hold Bill Clinton responsible for Trump serving as the Republican nominee. This is a political party who decided that the best person to represent their values, their philosophies, their strategies and their methods for how to govern would be a failed businessman bailed out by his father whose successes came through hiring contractors and securing investments in collapsed enterprises where the contractors and investors would suffer while Trump walked away with the money he owed them and the money they'd paid him. A man who can't focus on a conversation for me than 10 minutes at a time. A person who was infamous for sexual harassment and bragged about it on Howard Stern's radioshow, a man who ran a fraudulent university where the main product was getting to pose next to a cardboard cutout of him for photos. A conman with a crappy TV show and a supposed billionaire whose campaign hats are poorly stitched and whose untailored suits don't fit.

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On the subject of voter fraud, if anything, Project Veritas is attacking fair and democratic elections by using O'Keefe's usual methods of misleadingly edited footage (as he always has) to undermine trust, faith and confidence in a voting system that is a model of equality and trustworthiness. Even if every single one of O'Keefe's claims were true, you could not possibly steal a Presidential election in this fashion because you could not possibly create enough false identities for multiple voting with registered names in order to sway the results in a contest of this size, nor could you monitor the supposed fraudulent voters to ensure they voted as instructed, nor could the massive expense for so little numerical gain make any possible sense.

You would have to be the stupidest person alive to try to steal a Presidential election by bussing the same groups of people to different jurisdictions.

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James O'Keefe's fraudulent videos have caused many people to lose their jobs. State Director for Rural Development Shirley Sherrod was forced to resign for making racist remarks as seen in an O'Keefe filmed video. The full video, later released, showed that Sherrod's story had been about initially racist thinking that she had overcome and made sure not to affect her job -- but O'Keefe exerpted and edited the video so that the attitudes Sherrod refuted appeared to be the ones by which she worked. Juan Carlos Vera also lost his job due to O'Keefe manipulating video to make it seem like Vera was engaged in human trafficking when Vera was humouring an apparent trafficker and then promptly called the police. And that's only two of many cases where O'Keefe's video, once gathered in full, was found to have been edited specifically to alter the hypothetical into the seemingly factual or taking views that the speaker was criticizing and presenting them as views that the speaker was presenting as their own.

It's what O'Keefe did before and is doing again and we're simply in the middle of the story where we've yet to see the full material in which his lies will be exposed.

I agree with you that any voter fraud is outrageous especially given the many people who sacrificed and often died to create a less horrific version of humanity in which we all participate in a free and fair electoral process. But I think that any claims that Presidential elections are or can be rigged are absurd and in the same realm of calling 9/11 an inside job or Barack Obama an illegal immigrant or suggesting Coca Cola has some secret formula that is anything other than sugar.

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James O'Keefe of Project Veritas is a known con artist and scammer whose big gimmick has always been to secretly film people and the re-edit their conversations into something that appears to incriminate them for racism, human trafficking or worse only for unedited footage to reveal his fraud. Even a cursory Google of this man made it clear that his videos cannot be taken as truthful. The logistics of having the same people vote repeatedly in different jurisdictions under multiple names in order to make a sufficient difference in a Presidential election are physically impossible. The claim that postal workers can screen for Republican mail in ballots is absurd; they are not distinguishable from the exterior.

I'm sorry. I'm totally in sympathy with your disdain for Clinton and Trump, but the idea that the system is rigged given the massive decentralization and bipartisan nature of the vote counting matched with detached voting machines -- I just don't think that's remotely plausible and James O'Keefe doesn't have the credibility to do an exposé on the Colonel's secret spices never mind voter fraud.

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Sorry, my mistake. I confused the S5 with the Note 5 and conflated Android Pay with Samsung Pay.

The only way I'd feel comfortable buying a Note 5 is if it were the 128GB model. I think it's ridiculous that companies charge so much for more than 16GB when so many phones offer microSD slots. I've gotten used to buying cheaper phones and usable a 128GB microSD to store multimedia. With my 4.5GB phone, I've even transferred app storage to the microSD. Apps running from the card do indeed run a bit slower, but I make sure that external memory apps aren't ones I use too often or don't need to run fast. Even if FBReader takes a few extra seconds to start up, once the ebook is showing, speed is irrelevant.

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The Samsung S5 is the cheapest option for Samsung Pay with waterproofing and a microSD and it's your only option for those features with a removable battery.

**

I used Final Draft to write "Slide Effects" and Parts 1 - 3 of SLIDERS REBORN, but I have to say that I was. becoming increasingly disgruntled with it. The latest versions did not seem to have been optimized for Windows 8, so I was seeing a lot of freezing and lagging and delayed input was just maddening. Around that time, screenwriter John August revealed a new version of the Courier screenwriting font, Courier Prime.

This new font was so well-suited to screen readers and digital displays while maintaining the typewritten look that I had to go with it. I switched to using the screenwriting software Fade In, which used the new font and was smooth on Windows. In contrast, Final Draft could not use Courier Prime correctly, adding in extreme spaces between each line. I went back and converted all my scripts to Fade In and it's been good.

The only issue I have with Fade In -- dialogue will cut off in mid-sentence to go to the next page. In Final Draft, dialogue would always break at a period, making sure no sentence was split across a page. The setting to adjust this in Fade In doesn't work.

As for writing on tablets -- try swipe typing keyboards, it's a slight improvement over thumbing each key individually.

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What are the features you want from an S7? The S7 is already missing one critical feature you say you want, a user-replaceable battery. Three years is about average for a battery. I don't expect my Moto G 3rd Gen to last more than two years, but it is an *extremely* inexpensive phone and I bought it open box from a man who met me outside a gas station to sell it to me, so it was even cheaper than that. There are probably decent and affordable phones now with all the features you want, made by companies whose products haven't been declared a terrorist threat.

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Hey, there's a new build of Marshmallow that works great on my phone! I like the smoother animations. It looks like Google added extra frames. There's also a finally working function for merging your microSD storage with the internal memory which is quite handy on my phone which has a mere 4.53GB of free space once the OS and apps are installed.

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On the subject of charging -- for the longest time, I was using a small power bank the size of two chocolate bars to top up my phone occasionally when in a desperate situation. However. Ever since I installed a high amperage USB charger in the car, I've been able to recharge my phone fully during even brief commutes. I gave away my power bank, but I found myself needing one again because my laptop is charged through a microUSB port. I was impressed to find that Aukey has a high amperage power bank that retails for about $17 on Amazon. They've gotten smaller, cheaper and more powerful than my old 2.1 amp power bank.

Hopefully, it won't explode or anything...

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Thanks, Grizzlor. As for Wang -- I saw no reason not to refer to him as a celebrity, but if our resident VOYAGER apologist doesn't think Wang qualifies, then I must seriously reconsider his status.

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Slider_Quinn21, SUPERGIRL is a heartfelt, earnest, at times sickeningly sweet series about nice high school children in superhuman bodies who want to spend all day doing nice things. Of course Informant hates it, he's biologically allergic to fun.

(I'm sorry, but now that I've come to accept Informant is a conservative who isn't a Republican nutjob, I need to to have this. As I said earlier, I can't really disagree with any of Informant's criticisms, they just don't bother me as much as they bother him.)

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Heyyy... here's a pitch for how Trump might script his concession speech from John Oliver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBc1JBwH-NA

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Personally, I thought Oliver's line of "I don't have time to time travel" was one of the most nonsensical sentences that Stephen Amell has ever been scripted to say. It's a god damn time machine. And in addition to all the plotting problems that Informant noted, there is no onscreen reason for Rip Hunter's disappearance nor does anyone even seem to be worried about his well-being or wonder why he wasn't leading the mission to reunite the team. I can't understand what the point was of separating the team if they were to be recovered so easily aside from creating some incident so that Arthur Darvill could exit the show (is he even leaving?).

And yet... it was fun. I enjoyed it. I thought Sara Lance becoming like James Bond was hilarious. But the show doesn't make much sense and there's an odd sense of just trying to fill an hour with the actors that ARROW and FLASH don't have space to deal with. I wonder if SUPERGIRL's Jimmy Olsen will join the Legends at some point. LEGENDS reminds me of the MARVEL KNIGHTS and DEFENDERS comics where Marvel would publish these titles featuring characters who had no reason to be together beyond keeping the copyrights and titles in circulation and serving as a dumping ground for the unwanted.

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It's strange that the Republican party being represented by exactly the kind of person I have always imagined you all to be has had the completely paradoxical result of making me finally realize that conservatives come in many shapes and sizes that are absolutely nothing like what I imagined you all to be.

I've severely misjudged you, have done so for years. Sorry about that. Must try harder.

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I must confess -- I've generally always seen the Republican political party as Donald Trump even before Donald Trump become the nominee. Long before Trump staggered into politics, he came off as a geyser of hatred and arrogance who claimed to be successful but whose fortune was ultimately drawn from (a) a predecessor who was as competent as Trump was not and (b) exploiting the poor and gullible to line his pockets at their expense (c) presenting his exploitative practices as a showcase of independence cloaked in religion to obscure how he was simply a man driven by (d) greed and contempt for other human beings while using (e) hatred and fear of minorities, immigrants, refugees, homosexuals and the disabled and marginalized to convince his audience that his monstrosity had acceptable targets.

And that, to be honest, is how I always viewed most Republicans in America. My opinion was that Bush, Cheney, McCain, Palin, Romney and Ryan were essentially Donald Trump but they concealed and hid and dressed up the characteristics that Trump flaunts and parades and that Trump was who Republicans really are and have been all along.

It's been a relief to realize that there can be a massive gulf between having conservative values and being what the Republican party stands for now.

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From where I sit (and I'm not in the States), this election has brought out the best in all of you. You all come from various ends of the political spectrum, and this election has truly proven to me that your values, despite being ones I have often disagreed with strongly and at times viewed as hypocritical, are held sincerely and with great love for your country and society.

I truly expected Informant and Temporal Flux to support Donald Trump out of their party loyalty and dreaded what it might mean for our friendships and Informant's continued consultation on SLIDERS REBORN.

Instead, both TF and Informant have shown a character and integrity that, to be honest, I did not expect to find. I apologize for that. I am astonished but overjoyed to see Informant declaring Trump to be "balls out crazy" and TF declaring that he is done voting Republican or to see my many Democrat-friends seeking Libertarian and independent candidates for whom to vote.

Despite all of you having very strong disagreements, your shared outrage towards cruelty, corruption, self-enrichment at the expense of others and establishment fictions has somehow brought you all to the same place. This election has united you and made you all realize you're not so different. Even Mitt Romney has won my respect in this election and I used to hate him.

Obviously, I am filled with sympathy and sadness for the plight of my neighbours, but I am also very, very happy to see these wonderful sides to all of you. I have never been more proud of the SLIDERS fan community and the people of this forum.

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I honestly don't know what to say about your notification light and battery-full sound effect. Does the Touchwiz ROM offer no way of customizing the notification lights or shutting down the sounds? All my suggestions would be through the Google version of Android letting you modify notification lights and sounds. I set my phone each night to silent until the next alarm that wakes me up. Maybe you should just get an alarm clock.

Wireless charging! The Moto G 3rd Gen can't do it. It's a neat idea. However, I must confess -- I don't really need it. I used to carry around a portable power bank around that could recharge my phone five times fully -- but I recently installed a 2.4 amp USB charger in my car and the forty minute drive from the office to home puts my phone from 80 to 100 halfway in.

One area where wireless charging would have been a great boon -- I have broken the charging ports on nearly all my devices at least once and had to get them repaired. Even now, my iPad Mini 2's charging port is a little loose and I imagine I'll need to call in Applecare soon.

My last laptop, the admittedly buggy and glitchy Asus Transformer T100 Chi, was laid to rest because the charging port broke and could not be fixed. I feel a bit more confident about the Surface 3 because the port looks to be carefully reinforced and the cable's designed to prevent pressure on one side or the other -- but even then, I bought the two-year repair plan.

Your brother seems keen on submerging his phones. To do it once seems like misfortune, but to do it twice seems like predetermined assault on his hardware. That said, it's really inexcusable that any phone in this day and age isn't water resistant. The Moto G 3rd Gen is designed for the impoverished or people who destroy phones so often they have no business spending more than $160 or so and it's waterproof. There's also really no excuse for phones without microSD slots, which is why the Google Pixel line of phones just exasperates me.

The iPad Mini 2's lack of a microSD slot irks me as well, but after every Android tablet in the city proved itself unreliable, I had nowhere else to go. Still, iOS tablets have something Android inexplicably doesn't -- you can hold the narrow-bezeled iPad with your fingers on the side of the screen and the device can distinguish prolonged touches on the side of the screen from actually tapping on it.

In contrast, if your fingers go on the sides of an Android tablet screen, it registers as a touch and you have to hold the tablet without letting your fingers so much as graze the front or you have to wrap one hand around its entire width. I'm astonished Google still hasn't sorted it out, but they seem to have pretty much given up on the Android tablet anyway.

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I think possession of a Note 7 should see you identified as a suicide bomber at this point. My God, that's terrifying. That said, my dream phone would be a Samsung S5 and if you wanted to move on from your S4, you could probably find one unlocked and cheap off Amazon by now. 16GB of memory, terrific processor and RAM, great screen and the unit is waterproof! I'd snap one up except I have the Moto G 3rd Gen which I haven't destroyed because it's waterproof and I've protected it with tempered glass, and so long as this is working fine, I'll forego any upgrading.

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Hunnh. I never thought I'd say this -- but the new version of iOS works incredibly well on my older iPad Mini 2. I rarely update without ultimately reverting back to an earlier version as new versions of iOS tend to slow things down, and I only tolerated iOS 9 over 8 because I wanted swipe typing. But iOS 10 has shortened all the animations so the tablet actually feels smoother and quicker than before.

With Android, however, I'm still on Lollipop. There's been no stable post-L build for the Moto G 3rd Gen.

Windows 10's finally stablized into a usable OS after a long period of patches and updates. And it's still free, sort of, if you download the assistive technologies version.

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Based on a bit of research -- Eric L. Watts, who is selling the DVDs, was the unpaid, volunteer DragonCon organizer for all STAR TREK programming at the convention. All those events from 1993 - 2009, including the Torme event, took place under the TrekTrak banner which Watts appears to own.

I don't know if he personally filmed the event, but it would have been done on his say-so, and I think the footage is his to do with as he pleases. The TrekTrak programming was apparently so popular that there's sufficient demand for DVDs of the events. In 2010, DragonCon declined to ask him to volunteer again, and Watts started his own convention in Atlanta: www.treklanta.org

He talks a bit about DragonCon and why he left/wasn't rehired in this interview:
http://conventionfansblog.com/2010/06/2 … ta-part-1/ From what I can tell, DragonCon saw the opportunity to replace Watts with Garrett Wang (Harry Kim from VOYAGER) and decided a celebrity organizer would draw more attention.

Watts seems like a pretty decent fellow to me -- he could have easily been bitter and angry towards DragonCon, but he took the high road in his interview, saw it as an opportunity to do his volunteer organizing professionally and now his TrekLanta is about to have its sixth annual convention.

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I stole that from Steve Jobs and Aaron Sorkin.

STEVE: (to his daughter) "You know what Lisa stood for? The computer, the Lisa, you know what it stood for?"
LISA: "Local Integrated System Architecture."
STEVE: "It stood for Lisa. Colon. Invented Stupid Acronym. Of course it was named after you, are you daffy? Local Integrated System Architecture doesn’t even mean anything, of course it was named after you."
LISA: "Why did you say it wasn’t all those years? Why did you say you weren’t my father?"
STEVE: "Honey...I honestly don’t know. I know I didn’t want to be yoked to your mom  I’m poorly made."

It's one of the weird delusions I find myself facing. Whose feelings would I be hurting by excluding the Colin Mallory character? I dunno. But maybe there's one reader who for reasons beyond me really likes Charlie and Colin and is a little irritated to have Quinn disown Colin -- in which case maybe their hurt could be salved by knowing that Quinn named a computer system after his supposed brother. I mean, who cares? Even I don't care about Colin at all. But my indifference should not be SLIDERS' indifference. Except in saying that, I'm expressing the absurd and delusional claim that my fan fiction is a legitimate extension of the series.

You see what I mean? And you've both been here and come through. Don't go backwards, boys. Move forward and maybe I'll even catch up with you someday.

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So, earlier, I was angsting about how I didn't want to deal with Colin or write for the character in any way, but his name came up naturally in a scripted conversation where it became necessary to dismiss his existence. But, because I don't want to be a jerk, I've decided that Quinn's Bay Area slide system in SLIDERS REBORN's finale will be named the Cyclotronic Optical Local Interdimensional Network, subtly indicating that while Quinn found out Colin wasn't really his brother at some point between 2000 and 2015, he still thinks of him now and then. God damn it.

You see, nobody ever told me not to take fan fiction too seriously and now I'm in too deep. Don't let this happen to you.

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I don't have much to add to your thoughts on THE FLASH except to say -- the 'explanation' for why the timeline has been altered as delivered by Jay Garrick is (a) a beautiful piece of writing that truly comes alive and (b) total crap.

The metaphor of the new timeline being a cracked coffee cup is a beautiful image -- but in order for it to be convincing, the imagery needs to actually apply to the onscreen events. And, onscreen, there is absolutely no reason why Nora Allen living for 30 seconds longer than she did before results in Caitlin having the metahuman gene, Dante being dead in a car accident, Iris never forgiving her father until now for faking her mother's death or Sara Diggle being erased.

I think you'd need a few extra lines here about how time is like a leaf floating down a river; each time you drop a leaf in, it will take a slightly different course and each temporal reset is dropping the leaf into the river once again. Jay needed to explain that time isn't strict and structured; much of life is subject to random chance. When you change time and then change it back, events with many possible outcomes are subjected to a second round of variability with potentially different results -- such as Dante crossing a street, an X and a Y chromosome, etc..

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A dramatization. May not have actually happened.

ME: "So, I was thinking that after SLIDERS REBORN, I'll turn my attention to REDEARTH88."

TRANSMODIAR: "What is that, a video game?"

ME: "It's this unfinished web series about a video blogger who's unknowingly the center of a mysterious espionage operation involving two rogue spies. The fun thing about it is that the vlogger's videos tend to be very dramedy and romcom-esque while the spies' videos are a mix of paranoia and surveillance footage and intense action. I think maybe I could convert the existing vlog entries to blog format, then spin the story in a direction where -- "

TRANSMODIAR: "Stop."

ME: "I'm thinking one of the spies is actually an artificial intelligence developed by -- "

TRANSMODIAR: "What the fuck is wrong with you?"

ME: "What?"

TRANSMODIAR: "Jesus Christ! Would you take a good look at yourself? You are not god damn patron saint of every unfinished story ever shit out there and left to rot. You have wrapped up LONELYGIRL15. You have wrapped up SLIDERS. Now you're doing SLIDERS again -- like once wasn't enough! Stop writing fanfic, you moron. Finish this ridiculous twentieth anniversary special you roped me and Nigel Mitchell and whatshisname Informant into with your dumbass Status Updates thread -- and move the hell on. Why do you spend so much time and energy on writing you can't sell?"

ME: "I think you fail to understand the joy and pleasure of writing a pastiche, of recreating -- "

TRANSMODIAR: "You've done enough recreating! Isn't it time you actually created? SLIDERS REBORN was supposed to be three chapters, now it's six parts, four hundred fucking pages of script, that novella, the posters, that stupid social media campaign -- enough is enough. If you devote your writing skills to fanfic, I swear to God that I will start to hate you. I will have to hate you if you keep doing this."

A dramatization. May not have actually happened.

The upshot of what I want to communicate is this: please don't write ARROW and SUPERNATURAL fanfic. You two have done enough fanfic. If you must write ARROW fanfic, write an original series about a vigilante who throws knives as opposed to shooting arrows and make it so that he spent four years stranded in some insurmountable mountains or in the Arctic. If you must write SUPERNATURAL fanfic, write an original series about two college roommates who are forced to go on the run in Europe fighting cybernetic monsters.

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Supergirl
I'm sorry Informant didn't like it, that is unfortunate. I thought the Season 2 premiere was terrific. I can't deny that Informant's right about Kara's characterization. The Season 1 characterization seemed oddly indecisive, almost like they were writing a teenaged Kara Danvers but then abruptly altered her to being in her late 20s without making the character any more mature. However, Melissa Benoist's performance has always been so endearing, so engagingly sincere and sweet -- so it works for me.

The premiere had a very interesting approach, casting a slightly critical eye on Season 1 with Cat Grant noting that Kara has been sheltering herself in the persona of a nervous office assistant with a hopeless crush on Jimmy. Slider_Quinn21's right to say that the sudden curtailment of the Kara/Jimmy romance makes no sense, but I can see what the writers were aiming for. They're trying to say that Kara being an anxiety-ridden, lovesick wreck was a rut she'd fallen into and gotten stuck in, but the Season 1 finale and a year of success as Supergirl means she's broken free, hence her lack of interest in Jimmy.

The budget seemed as lavish as the CBS funded version of SUPERGIRL; aerial flights and fights, extensive CG sequences with doubling and collapsing buildings and drones and helicopters and explosions. I wonder if the Vancouver tax credit and a lower licensing fee is being matched with a budget higher than what THE FLASH gets -- or if we're going to get a bunch of bottle episodes later on. ANGEL in Season 5 opened with a massive series of action sequences and Joss Whedon grimly observed in the commentary that Season 5's reduced budget meant the premiere had crippled many subsequent episodes.

I was happy with Superman representing the ideal version of Kara Danvers that she never quite manages to equal. That said, Superman's hostility towards J'onn was, as Slider_Quinn21 puts it, nonsensical. There's also the fact that Superman is visibly at ease and cheerful in the DEO and happily shaking hands with every staffer there.

It would make more sense if Superman's anger towards J'onn was that J'onn had secretly hidden the Kryptonite, told Superman it was all destroyed and been preparing ways to kill Superman in case he ever became an enemy, if J'onn's actions had been a betrayal of friendship and trust. Instead, the script inexplicably has Superman being displeased that the DEO has anti-Kryptonian weaponry when, as you guys noted, it was absolutely necessary. The dialogue as scripted is incomprehensible and it's only thanks to Tyler Hoechlin's charismatic performance that it doesn't sink the character completely.

Hoechlin also effortlessly sells the Clark Kent/Superman divide. As Clark, he's slightly muted and laid back, friendly and a little overwhelmed. As Superman, he has a natural air of authority and good-heartedness that instantly wins people over. The Superman costume looks good except in close shoulder-level shots, at which point the yellow cape clips are jarringly out of place against the red and the blue. The cape buckles on the top of the cape add a displeasing unevenness to what should be a smoothly flowing garment, but on the whole, the costume works in motion and films better than it photographs. I understand the desire to add some accent colour to the costume, but it adds needless clutter. I'd lose the yellow outside of the S and shift the clips to under the cape.

I am very glad Winn is working for the DEO; with Jimmy at Catco, Winn always seemed superfluous -- and I'm eager to see what kind of relationship he'll have with Alex. I'm relieved that Chyler Leigh remains on the show as her onscreen rapport with Benoist livened up the show and made it transcend its plotholes and contradictory scripts.

All in all, this is a good start to Season 2, highlighting what worked and slowly dispensing with what did not.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

We're still limiting this to the idea that Sliders was only going to go 5 seasons.  What if it was a smash hit, of the level of X-Files?  Are we really confident that all four actors would've been happy to devote a decade of their lives to the show?

I don't know if they would be happy about it. But they signed contracts. I don't know how long the contracts were for. Seven years is the standard, but it's not absolute; the cast of COMMUNITY signed for six years.

When the actors signed those papers, they were accepting the possibility that they might spend 5 - 10 years playing those roles, living in those filming locations, and missing out on other opportunities because this is the series to which they tethered their lives.

So, contractually, the only reason we didn't get five seasons of Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo is because the producers who took over in Season 3 did not appreciate the value of the cast -- or even the show. On one level, whether all four actors would be happy or not is immaterial -- it's what they agreed to.

Now, realistically -- most actors don't imagine that their show is going to last that long. THE X-FILES was expected to be cancelled within 6 - 13 episodes; Chris Carter, David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson were astonished to get a second season and flabbergasted to be filming a feature film.

COMMUNITY lost Chevy Chase in the middle of Season 4 because their relationship with him became unworkable, Donald Glover asked to be released because he was having mental health problems, Yvette Nicole Brown asked to be released because her father was ill. So yes, stuff happens, actors get bored -- but actors coming and going with no stability to the cast and no clarity as to who's available for what -- that's something American TV shows deliberately set out to avoid with long-term contracts.

Nevertheless, Chase, Glover and Brown had an obligation to devote six years of their lives to COMMUNITY as contracted -- but they were released because forcing them to adhere to their contract wouldn't have served the show: all the actors hated Chase, Glover was not well, Brown couldn't be away from her father and you can't get decent performances or a good work ethic out of actors if their issues make them incapable of performing well.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

If Chris Carter had his way, we'd be entering season 23 of the X-Files with Duchovny and Anderson continuing the roles.  And while I'm sure they loved the show and the work, eventually both Duchovny and Anderson decided to move on, and there was nothing Carter could do.  He had to create Doggett and Reyes to keep the show on the air. (I acknowledge this is a dangerous argument I'm making since you know a ton about the behind the scenes on the X Files and I'm speculating).

Chris Carter's plan -- as much as he ever had one -- was that there would be five seasons of THE X-FILES and then a resolution to the alien myth-arc in the feature film. Future X-FILES installments would be in film. However, as Season 4 began filming, FOX declared that (a) Carter was to film the movie after Season 4 (b) Season 5 would then lead up to whatever was in the movie, which would have already been filmed and (c) the movie would be followed by Season 6.

As a result, Carter couldn't do a movie that resolved the series and then shift into feature films. Carter most definitely did not have a clear plan as to how the movie would have resolved the alien invasion arc, and now he'd never come up with any resolution at all. FOX saw that THE X-FILES was a ratings hit, and was determined to get as much out of the show as possible in the realm of television.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

If Torme is to Sliders what Carter was to X-Files, then Torme would've stayed on board all ten seasons of Sliders and would've had to deal with different actors and new characters.  Or maybe he wouldn't have, and he would've decided to end the show (or walk way) instead of breaking up the band, as it were.  All I'm saying is that if Torme was going to come up with new characters, Maggie and Mallory aren't awful on paper and can be worked with.  Even Colin is an intriguing character on paper - a true fish out of water who could've brought back some of the wonder of sliding if done correctly.

I think there's a massive difference between how SLIDERS changed its cast and how THE X-FILES changed its cast. SLIDERS lost critical characters at abrupt times, suddenly and irrationally in terms of the story. In contrast, THE X-FILES gave its fans seven years of its lead characters with the Season 7 finale observing that Mulder and Scully had accomplished anything and everything they could have reasonably hoped to achieve. The conspiracy had been toppled (sort of, it was confusing), the alien invasion had been stalled (again, sort of), all questions had been addressed and answered (although they weren't necessarily great answers).

When Mulder left THE X-FILES, there was a massive outcry from the fans. But there was also the acknowledgement that the show had been doing the same thing for seven seasons and Mulder's absence was an opportunity to inject new life and new energy into the show. The Mulderless episodes in no way impeded enjoyment of the seven years we'd already had of Mulder and Scully.

So, if SLIDERS gave us seven seasons of Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo, then I think Torme would be wise and willing to start making some changes afterwards. In my imagined version of SLIDERS:

  • Seasons 1 - 2: Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo are sliding randomly.

  • Season 3: "Double Cross" has a different ending where Logan St. Clair is imprisoned and Arturo assumes his double's life, taking full control of Prototronics, giving the sliders a home base, an organization, and a chance to make sliding more stable and reliable with a headquarters. They rename Prototronics as Sliders Incorporated.

  • Season 4: The sliders find that sliding and exploration are now secondary to a desperate war against the Kromagg Dynasty for the fate of all realities.

  • Season 5: As the Kromagg war reaches fever pitch, the sliders lose Sliders Incorporated and their home base and become desperate to find some way to defeat the Kromaggs with what little technological advantages remain from Sliders Inc. We end on a massive cliffhanger where the sliders are thought dead.

  • The Movie: In an epic, feature film finale storyline, the Kromaggs are defeated, but the sliders are reduced to wandering the interdimension with an unreliable timer in a random search for home. Once again.

  • Season 6: Back to basics with Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo sliding randomly. The season ends with them getting home.

  • Season 7: The sliders find that home is as much a parallel Earth to them as any other world and accept their lives are in the multiverse, using home as a base but now sliding, rebuilding Sliders Inc. and searching for a new generation of sliders.

  • Season 8: The new generation of sliders take center stage and the original sliders only appear in half of the season's episodes as the administrative staff of Sliders Inc. The new sliders get lost in the multiverse at the end of Season 8.

  • Season 9: The new generation of sliders explore the multiverse, searching for a way back home. In 6 - 8 episodes, they encounter doubles of Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo. The series finale involves all the sliders being captured by the Slide Rulers who put our heroes on trial for interfering in the affairs of parallel Earths, resulting in a lengthy courtroom session with narrated clipshows of previous episodes that ends with all the sliders going on the run from the Slide Rulers with their fate unknown.

  • Movie Number Two: The FBI seek out Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo who are all living in peaceful retirement, needing their help with a series of murders with a psychic from "Obsession" at the center of it all.

  • The Mini Series: Twenty years after the Pilot, the sliders reunite in order to investigate a series of peculiar reality shifts centered around a -- oh God, stop me now.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Not to mention the fact that the show's longevity could've changed things.  Jared and Jensen on Supernatural, staying for over a decade, is the exception...not the rule.  Mulder and Scully both left X-Files.  Everyone but Tom Welling left Smallville. 

Maybe Jerry's movie career (which started/continued while he was still doing Sliders) could've taken off earlier.  Maybe Mission to Mars could've been a bigger success, and he'd want to get out of his contract then.  Maybe Sabrina still could've wanted to leave Sliders to go get a job working with Aaron Sorkin.  Maybe nostalgia could've forced JRD to leave and create a number of Sallah-based Indiana Jones spinoff movies.

In the case of SMALLVILLE, the entire Season 1 cast signed seven year contracts, but Eric Johnson, Sam Jones III, John Schneider and Annette O'Toole were released from their obligations at the production's behest. As for Kristin Kreuk and Michael Rosenbaum, they completed their seven year contracts.

Allison Mack signed a two year contract for Seasons 8 - 9 and once it was done, she decided to renew only for a limited number of episodes. But make no mistake: if the Season 1 - 7 team wanted to keep the entire cast, the actors would have been obligated to stay.

David Duchovny wanted to leave THE X-FILES by Season 5, but he signed a seven year contract and he was required to fulfill that seven year contract. Jerry O'Connell could have become Laurence Olivier and John could have booked any number of INDIANA JONES films and they'd still be obligated to show up on SLIDERS unless the production did not want them there. That's simply the nature of these contracts.

The fact that Seasons 3 - 5 had their lead characters locked into long-term contracts and still lost 3/4 should not be seen to indicate that you can't always count on having the actors available. The point of these multi-year contracts is to have hired them for their availability and to lose that availability would require producers determinedly trying to get rid of the actors.

And it wouldn't have happened under Torme; Torme was prepared to assuage Jerry's wishes for a movie career by writing him out of an episode now and then and John had given Torme plenty of ammunition to fire him over Seasons 1 - 2, but Torme would never do that. Torme loved Professor Arturo. Torme loved Quinn, Wade and Rembrandt. He would do whatever it took to keep them and when you have contracts in place, all that remains is maintaining good relationships.

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I seriously doubt that Tracy would have ever allowed himself to get into a position where he would lose John Rhys Davies or Sabrina Lloyd or Jerry O'Connell. Losing three-quarters of the cast is something that only happens if the production is determined to rid themselves of the actors. In American television, even in the 90s, every lead actor signs multi-year contracts. As a result, so long as Tracy wanted John, Sabrina or Jerry on the show, they would be on the show. Period. The only way you could lose lead actors would be if (a) they died or (b) Tracy, for whatever reason, consented to release any one of them from their contracts.

And I think it's highly unlikely he would have done that. He described John Rhys-Davies as a "pain in the ass" who would "bitch endlessly about everything," but also described him as absolutely essential. John was making noise about quitting in Season 2, but it was clearly hot air as he didn't challenge his contract in Season 3 and while Torme made preparations for John's exit story in the event that the actor/showrunner relationship became untenable, John ultimately had to be fired off SLIDERS for him to leave.

As for Jerry O'Connell -- even if we imagine that Sci-Fi was late to pick up his contract option for Season 5, he would not have left Tracy's SLIDERS because Tracy's SLIDERS would still have had John, Sabrina, Cleavant and Jerry's fondness for working with those three people and that family situation would have kept him coming back. He might have been absent for a few episodes to film THE 60s, but he would have returned because he would know that if he were in any way negligent, John would never let him hear the end of it and he respected John too much.

So, you say that Tracy is wrong to dismiss Maggie and Mallory, but Tracy would never have let himself get into that mess in the first place because he would not have antagonized and abused his own cast or released them from their contracts in order to fire them. As for whether or not Maggie and Mallory are concepts worth exploring -- I think you ask entirely too much of Tracy in saying he should respect them.

That's like saying that we should roll out the welcome carpet and lay out the fine china whenever we have burglars break into our homes. Maggie and Mallory are unwelcome, they don't belong, and Tracy's hostility towards them is perfectly reasonable. It's a fan attitude to want to look at the entire tangled mess of SLIDERS and rework it into a beautiful tapestry, but Tracy, quite understandably, sees them as ugly complications piled on top of a very simple and straightforward storytelling platform.

Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo exploring the multiverse is hardly a limited concept, nor is it in any way restricting to stick to alternate history ideas. You've got the whole of human history, four characters ideally suited to exploring infinity -- and the absence of the other characters is not a disadvantage.

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I think that what Tracy says goes is meaningful on two levels. The first is that SLIDERS as aired exists in stark contradiction to his wishes. He thought Quinn being from Kromagg Prime was absurd. He thought the Season 4 Space Nazis were ridiculous. He was disgusted with John and Sabrina's exits and he despised Maggie and Mallory. So when Torme prefaces his statements with, "For what it's worth," he's noting that his wishes for SLIDERS aren't necessarily meaningful given how they were contradicted and ignored.

On another level, Torme shows a certain attitude to writing: the need to allow for improvisation and development without rigidly adhering to a set plan. Planning is an important skill, but the truth is that the script you write can morph into something radically different when actors perform it and directors stage it and the onscreen product will always have nuances and details and points of interest separate from what's on paper.

For example: when Torme wrote Quinn, he saw him as Steve Urkel without the exaggerated behaviour. The ideal actor for the scripted version of Quinn would have been someone from THE BIG BANG THEORY. But the studio and network naturally gravitated to an attractive leading man -- and Torme proceeded to integrate that into Quinn by later working in the backstory that Quinn had skipped two grades, was physically smaller than his classmates and therefore severely beaten down and bullied. None of this was in Torme's conception of the character; he saw the actor and he rethought, he was open to change.

I'm not the biggest fan of "Heat of the Moment," but that's another example where Torme worked out a story and a situation, but as he wrote it out in full, he let the characters improvise and do whatever came naturally and the story ended up in a very different place from the outline, because for Torme, the writer controls the drive, but in the script, the characters drive the story. That's why I like Torme's writing -- as well as how he takes very dark, potentially unwatchable situations and makes them funny enough that it's not unbearable.

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I don't object to Oliver killing his kidnapper? I think people who take innocents hostage at gunpoint have pretty much given up any right to claim unfair treatment if it turns out the person they kidnapped is inclined to take it personally. At the same time, I don't know if I'd want Oliver to be executing people and I think even Oliver would be uncomfortable making that his first means. However, it did remind me of a recent BATGIRL comic where Commissioner Gordon says the only reason he tolerates Batman and his friends operating, the only reason he's been able to keep the police off their backs, is because they don't kill. And once they start doing that, the police can no longer turn a blind eye to vigilantism.

I dunno, maybe Felicity can whip up a Google Form survey to quickly determine whether or not a villain goes into the spare or slaughter columns with questions for who might be rehabilitated or safely incarcerated and who might be too far gone and too homicidal to leave alive.

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On October 7, Allison Jean Spears tweeted: "Jerry O'connell has crossed me & i'm gonna talk bad about him at every show until he apologizes on Twitter. - @ingridmusic"

Jerry replied, "What did I do?"

I tweeted him, "OMG! Did you depart from a leading TV role and refuse to perform an exit story despite being available to do so?"

He liked my tweet.

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In what may be a glitch of memory -- I can't remember if Torme told me if the wrong Arturo slid or not. According to the Rewatch Podcast, Torme told me that the wrong Arturo slid. I think I mistyped or miscommunicated something to them -- as I remember it, I didn't ask him whether the wrong Arturo slid. I asked him how he wanted to use that plot.

He said he might have followed up on it by having the wrong Arturo confess to the sliders that he had impersonated their friend and regretfully leave them to facilitate John's exit. Or he might have had the correct Arturo catch up with the sliders -- but they discover that he allied himself with the Kromaggs in order to find his friends, and they reject him, choosing the double over the original. Or he might have simply let it go. He said that he didn't really define it as the right one slid or the wrong one slid -- he said that he liked to write stories by opening doors and possibliities without rigidly and narrowly declaring what the future would be.

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Torme messaged Matt from his Facebook account, saying, "For what it’s worth, I believe the wrong Arturo slid. And he was the one with the implant." I hardly think one needs to rank video evidence and a personal communication from Torme in competition; they are both perfectly equal and valid.

I think the DVD (which I will order soon) is (in theory, as I have not seen it) a lovely artifact for SLIDERS fans and a chance to spend some time with one of the genius intellects and masterful screenwriters behind the show and it is of course valuable, but it's unreasonable to claim its importance is based in shocking revelations of things we already knew a long time ago.

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Matt is pointing out that we have had Tracy Torme's confirmation that the wrong Arturo slid since 2009.

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Oh, don't knock his enthusiasm. Yes, we've already had plenty of confirmation from Torme that the wrong Arturo slid, but come on. Let RussianCabbieLotteryFan enjoy his DVD.

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I really like THE FLASH. But it has to be said that it's a formula-driven show. It operates on having a metahuman attack the city and Team Flash working together to save the day. This episode stepped outside the formula and the writers simply weren't up to the task of executing it with anything resembling wit, insight or emotion. In addition to the clumsy and witless logic that Informant's already observed, Barry's decision to reverse time is based on Wally getting injured -- as though Wally's street-racing and crimefighting hobbies in the original timeline weren't equally dangerous.

And if SUPERGIRL isn't merging with the ARROWverse -- then the best thing to do is shrug, accept that the season premiere was a massive disapointment and then move on.

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Sorry, I made a mistake. I saw a bunch of preview clips where Oliver and Barry were in the Arrowcave with Kara and J'onn, so I thought the universes had merged. This interview with Andrew Kreisberg confirms that Informant's correct; the universes aren't merging.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/07/su … w-spoilers

I dunno. I assumed they would merge the realities if only to facilitate guest-appearances more readily, but I guess they're not doing that. Interestingly, Kreisberg confirms that because SUPERGIRL didn't get the tax credit they'd expected, the latter half of SUPERGIRL's first season had serious budget problems, which explains a lot of the visual problems they were having in the FLASH crossover.

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ARROW was good. I can't really quibble with Oliver reverting to killing villains. As the Professor would say, "This is an invading soldier, not a social worker." I think it would be inappropriate for Supergirl or the Flash to outright execute villains (although some of the Flash's countermeasures in Season 2 were lethal in that negating the villains' powers would kill them). But Oliver isn't a superhuman character and it's silly to think he could be excused from kill or be killed situations; he's never had that kind of power.

THE FLASH -- it's nice that you guys were so forgiving. I thought it was awful. Clearly, the writers set up an amazing Season 2 cliffhanger full of possibilities only to find that their success with the CW franchise and SUPERGIRL meant limiting their follow-up to a single episode. Maybe it should have been a two-parter aired on one night? Either way, it didn't work; there was too much material, too many unjustified and abrupt decisions, and too little time spent explaining why this unaltered, original timeline is somehow, as Informant noted, the 'wrong' timeline.

The ending also made no sense and sadly fell into every single one of Informant's warnings about how badly it could go if the show used FLASHPOINT to justify continuity changes without a clear chain of logic and reason. The restored, Thawne-altered timeline is different for no reason; Nora Allen living for an additional 30 seconds has somehow resulted in the present being changed with Iris being far away? And it's obviously not the only change.

I don't think it's a spoiler at this point to say that -- obviously -- SUPERGIRL is now a part of the ARROW and FLASH universe. There's no way they would be doing regular crossovers with ARROW and LEGENDS and THE FLASH if Supergirl had to drop in from a parallel universe every time or vice versa. So, for whatever reason, Nora Allen's extended half a minute of life brought Supergirl into Barry and Oliver's universe. There is no justification for this whatsoever in the premiere and given what we've seen onscreen, I don't think there can be aside from vague technobabble rationalization.

It was kind of palnful to watch. We all theorized how THE FLASH could easily fall into many narrative traps and logical stumbles in achieving its endgame and it looks like it's toppled headfirst into every single one.

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In "World Killer," Quinn-2 believed that he had killed everyone and in thinking that, he didn't believe there was any redemption for him or any way to set things right. When realizing that the Earth's population has merely been displaced, he regains his engagement (and also his arrogance).

As for REBORN -- "Revelation" reveals that the multiverse is dying and Quinn blames himself with his altruism in "Reunion" actually representing his overwhelming guilt, grief, shame and his coping mechanism, so I don't think he's exactly an uncomplicated do-gooder even in REBORN. RCLF actually didn't bother to read past Page 50 of "Reunion" so he missed all that.

Quinn's facade of relentless positivity in "Reunion" was based on his characterization in "Last Days" where even after his double's sliding machine fails, Quinn is convinced to do something positive with what time he has left and cook a meal with Wade and give some comfort to his friend and also "The Guardian" where he reacts to the inevitability of the Professor's death by mentoring his younger self. In "Reunion," he's decided to use what time he has left to make things better as best he can.

That said, for all his abilities, Quinn Mallory is still a slapdash incompetent, emotionally withdrawn, prone to improvising to disastrous effect, a messy dresser, something of a cowardly liar and his idea of a home is a facsimile of the basement in his mother's house, so while he is and ever shall be my childhood hero, he's pretty messed up.

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I don't know if you can say Season 4 isn't canon in REBORN when the story features Jack from "Net Worth," Amy from "The Chasm," Wade referring to the events of "Virtual Slide" in the fifth script, and there's also Arlo from Season 5's "Please Press One," Bryce from "Heavy Metal" and Marc LeBeau from "The Seer."

I guess REBORN's argument is that there are *two* versions of Season 4: the corrupted timeline version that we saw on TV and the original timeline version that had Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo enjoying a happier version of the Season 4 episodes.

Quinn's indifference to Wade's loss as seen makes no sense; so in the context of REBORN, what we were seeing was a corrupted version of the actual events and, in some cases, a version of events where Wade's absence was being awkwardly patched by Maggie Beckett as part of the multiversal scar tissue holding reality together after Geiger's cataclysm.

It's possible that within the corrupted timeline, the original timeline and contents exclusive to that timeline were held beyond a temporal event horizon. As a result, Quinn, within the corrupted timeline, would be incapable of observing the oddities until he reached the relative-present in which he was outside of reality and observing events through Mallory's consciousness.

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From the thread on The Breeder
http://sliders.tv/bboard/post.php?tid=220&qid=4102

ireactions wrote:

Okay, now I seriously have to ask -- what exactly is your problem with SLIDERS REBORN's characterization of Quinn? For reasons I have yet to fathom, you took issue with Quinn in 2015 using sliding to discretely seed the Earth with technology like global wifi while also creating pipelines to rescue human trafficking victims, sneaking medicines into Red Cross supply storages and air-dropping condoms into Africa to fight the AIDS crisis.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I guess I just never saw Quinn as selfless as you do. smile   Now, I could see Wade pushing him in the direction of the work you described, if he was madly in love with her and wanted to please her.

ireactions wrote:

So let me get this straight -- the only way a wealthy and successful Quinn could possibly be convinced to engage in altruistic acts would be if sex were a motivating factor?

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I said nothing about sex, only love wink Don't you ever dare speak about my theories like that again. *storms out of classroom*

Transmodiar wrote:

What the hell is happening here?

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

Just some fox executive - torme role playing, that's all. Ireactions wanted the Sliders Reborn showrunning experience to be as authentic as possible.

Transmodiar wrote:

Well, you fail - if for no other reason than you're both putting WAY too much thought into things. smile

It is oddly reminiscent of disagreements between John Rhys-Davies and Tracy Torme. John saw Arturo as a valiant, stalwart, heroic figure of revolutionary outrage -- he wanted Arturo to be the Doctor from DOCTOR WHO. In contrast, Torme saw Arturo as a working class bungler plodding his way through life with his education and body of knowledge obscuring an insecure and deeply troubled personality.

Strangely, RussianCabbieLotteryFan might have liked the alternate SLIDERS REBORN's version of Quinn. In the early stages, there was some discussion that REBORN might be set on an Earth where sliding wasn't discovered in 1994; Quinn then lost his passion for science. Cut to the present: everyone lives as they would had sliding never existed.

Quinn is a fortysomething tax accountant. Wade reviews smartphones for CNET. Rembrandt runs a coffee bar, but his only real joy is open mike nights when he performs. Arturo is writing study guides for lazy high school students. When Amanda Mallory dies, Quinn revisits his basement for the first time in years, finally realizes what he created 20 years ago, opens a vortex, accidentally drags the other three in with him, loses their home coordinates, and the adventure begins again.

In this version, Quinn most definitely would have been a normal person going about his life without much intention or hope of changing the world around him.

The disagreements over this project have been very interesting. Transmodiar's wish was that SLIDERS REBORN be something that NBCUniversal could and would conceivably fund and film if they were inclined to bring SLIDERS back and when you set aside his issues with plotting, characterization, screenwriting and dialogue, that's his main problem with REBORN, and it's a very reasonable one.

And I accept that; I'm more concerned with imagining it happening within the reality of SLIDERS than imagining it being filmed in our reality. I think the screenplay format can mislead slightly in giving the impression that I honestly think this would be the SLIDERS feature film series. I saw SLIDERS REBORN as being SLIDERS' equivalent of William Shatner's STAR TREK novels where he resurrected his dead character and ended up doing a nine-book series meant not for a general audience, but for people who like STAR TREK so much that they buy STAR TREK novels.

Voicemail recorded and sent!

Well, it was very pleasant to hear Jim and Dan back together again and their guest-star added a reasonable third voice to discussing "Double Cross," inexplicable digressions into "The Guardian" aside. As usual, Jim brought a thoughtful, measured and gently sardonic presence to the proceedings while Mr. Stargate relentless ragged on SLIDERS for the crime of not being some other television show entirely.

At one point, Mr. Stargate rants that "Double Cross" uses "throwaway lines of dialogue" to establish the depletion of natural resources as though dialogue written with some naturalism and subtlety to establish the setting is inappropriate and a sign of bad writing due to some arbitrary and completely random set of standards that only Mr. Stargate can apply or appreciate.

Jim and Ian correctly point out that the lack of natural resources and the electricity rationing is actually key to the plot, and even to set up the climax where Logan and her goons can't get into the hotel. However, Mr. Stargate makes up for this with an astute observation that Logan could easily be Evil Scientist #2 and her being Quinn's double doesn't really factor into the story as well as it could or should. If not for this, I would seriously urge Mr. Stargate to reconsider his aptitude and ability to analyze and discuss television on any sensible level.

Overall, it's very nice to have Sliderscast back and to hear them discussing the show again, but due to the massive time gap between this podcast and the last, they have unfortunately forgotten how Season 2 ended. As a result, they are incapable of discussing the massive gulf in style, filming, writing, acting and location that they would see if comparing "The Young and the Relentless" with "Double Cross." Perhaps I shall provide them with yet another lengthy voicemail on the subject.

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Also in electoral news, a comic book adaptation of CLINTON CASH, itself a book documenting the corruption of the Clinton family and foundation in their receiving money in exchange for influencing US foreign and domestic policy, became a smash sales hit on Amazon.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/08/18/ … h-diamond/

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Debate!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryp51N21vOU

The Avengers wade into the election!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRp1CK_X_Yw

John Oliver compares Hillary and Trump's scandals!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI

SOUTH PARK observes that we are caught between a rock and a hard place!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlqKFlU7YAs

I'd suggest aiming for consistency rather than constancy. Put out one podcast every six weeks! As long as it's consistently out every six weeks, it can be counted on.

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According to Temporal Flux, the period after Sci-Fi bought SLIDERS was one where Torme made a bid to regain control of the show. Torme hoped Universal would see that SLIDERS was a mis-managed mess of unprofessional behaviour under Peckinpah. Unfortunately, with Torme's contract having expired and Peckinpah's contract having another year on it, Universal decided to just go with who they had despite the fact that their producer had alienated two lead actors, permitted shoddy safety standards that got an actor killed, received the worst possible reviews for his episodes in the press, permitted financial mismanagement that resulted in the low production values of the back nine and treated the making of "The Exodus" as a giant rock concert with Roger Daltrey and the Who hired to perform with making the episode treated as something to do between binge drinking sessions.

Looking back -- the problem is probably that television was not seen as a meaningful platform for dynamic pieces of visual art that should court critical and widespread acclaim as well as a devoted and adoring fanbase. Instead, TV was seen as filler between commercials, something produced because you couldn't just show static when not showing ads. It wasn't until the early 2000s that this changed, and it's too bad -- because we were this close to getting this as our Season 4 premiere.

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A dramatization:

ME: "Matt! Matt!! MATT!!! MAAAAAA-AAAATTT!!"

TRANSMODIAR: "What!? What? What? What!?"

ME: "Giant gaping plot hole in the second SLIDERS REBORN script!!!"

TRANSMODIAR: "I told you already -- it's not the second! It's the third! For God's sake, you've got Part Zero, now you've got Part 2B -- it's god damn stupid! Come on. 'Revelation' is the third script."

ME: "Matt! Plot hole! REBORN has a plothole!"

TRANSMODIAR: "REBORN -- right, right -- this would be the story where your explanation for how the original sliders aren't good as dead, dead, dead and probably dead is 60 pages of unreadable technobabble."

ME: "I'm rewriting it! Just give the second draft a chance!"

TRANSMODIAR: "This is also the story where our man Remmy gets his hands on a universal credit card that works in any dimension and also works to unlock any electronic door, right?"

ME: "I'm allowed one unlikely plot device! I'm allowed one!"

TRANSMODIAR: "This is also the story that's going to climax in San Francisco being attacked by dinosaurs, zombies, vampires, robots, animal-human hybrids, super-intelligent snakes and god-damn dragons while purporting to be a scientifically principled story?"

ME: "Those are metaphors for mental illness!"

TRANSMODIAR: "You'd know! Anyway, I'm just wondering which of these gaping chasms of story actually stand out to you as a problem, that's all."

ME: "'Revelation' gives the date of the first slide as March 22, 1995."

TRANSMODIAR: "Yeah, the day the Pilot aired, and we posted Parts 1 and 2 -- not zero and one! -- 20 years to the day it aired."

ME: "But the aired episode gives the date as September 27, 1994!! Except I've already written the entire plot of 'Revelation' to take place around significant historical events in 1995!!!!"

TRANSMODIAR: "Well, I do have two thoughts on this. My first thought is that you could use the corrupted timeline gimmick you've got going in Part 4 to explain why the date changed."

ME: "Oh. Yeah!"

TRANSMODIAR: "My second thought is: WHO FUCKING CARES?!?!"

A dramatization. May not have actually happened.

I think what is really sad about aborting the Colin Mallory arc is: it wasn't aborted for story reasons. They didn't find a better storyline; they didn't think it would make for a better show. The arc was aborted because (a) Peckinpah and Dial wanted to upset Marc Scott Zicree and (b) Jerry O'Connell didn't like the idea that Colin wasn't his character's brother. These reasons should not have been allowed to influence the onscreen product, but if David Peckinpah cared about making sure the onscreen product didn't suffer from behind the scenes personalities, John and Sabrina would never have left the show.

And Surf Dance Chris taps into why fans kept watching SLIDERS: hope. The hope that if SLIDERS could get just one more season, at some point, the original sliders would come back to us and be restored. That's why I personally don't mind the ending of "The Seer" with nothing resolved, nothing wrapped up, Rembrandt leaping into the vortex without us knowing what's on the other side. I think that Quinn, Wade and Arturo were waiting on the other side.

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One of the best things about Seasons 1 - 2 was how SLIDERS satirized American society relentlessly. The Pilot skewers patriotism by exaggerating it to an absurd degree; "Summer of Love" takes aim and paranoia and ridicule towards non-materialistic worldviews; "Prince of Wails" takes aim at society's peculiar reverence towards monarchies; "Fever" is a screed on class warfare; "The Weaker Sex" examines gender roles; "The King is Back" takes aim at the American obsession with fame; "Luck of the Draw" casts a grim light on population growth and where do we find stuff like that today?

Personally, I like SOUTH PARK for constantly tackling every single prominent aspect of American culture from advertising to gentrification, but SOUTH PARK has all the subtlety of a brick. Still, Trey Parker and Matt Stone would be my choice for leading a SLIDERS reboot.

I think Season 4 is pretty bad, but a number of strong and stand-out episodes make it look better than it is. "Prophets and Loss" is the first episode in ages with a proper alternate history. "World Killer," "The Alternateville Horror," "Slidecage" and "Slide By Wire" have great science fiction concetps. "Way Out West" is fun.

The main problems are that the production has become just as bad as Season 3 with numerous stories and directions that are even crasser and darker than the monster movie marathon of the latter Season 3 episodes. Home has been invaded, all the sliders' families are dead, Wade is in a rape camp -- and these are subjects SLIDERS can't handle without the characters being too traumatized to explore a new world episodically each week, so they're just ignored. Rembrandt's trauma in Seasons 1 - 2 could be played for laughs, but the subject of Wade is too horrific to deal with in this fashion and it makes it so that lighthearted fare like "Alternateville" and "West" feel completely out of sync.

The show either goes for softball challenges where the stories are wrapped up with clumsy happy endings that don't make sense ("Just Say Yes," "Virtual Slide") or bleakly miserable endings that are depressing ("Common Ground," "The Dying Fields"). Season 4 also has a very compressed, artificial look because of the producers' stupid beyond stupid decision to erect a massive and expensive standing set with the Chandler that forces them to use it in every single episode whether it should be used or not. The early seasons got around this by having generic studio space with set dressing that could be wheeled in and out to turn a single room into a bar, store, cafe, courtroom, hotel, office, etc..

Season 4 is so depressing that even the fun episodes are diminished, it looks cheap and ugly and Jerry O'Connell looks half asleep onstage and Charlie O'Connell's main acting experience came from playing Quinn's dead corpse in "The Young and the Relentless." A few flashes of inspiration from Marc Scott Zicree and Chris Black can't sustain a whole season, sadly. Comparing it with Season 3 isn't terribly meaningful; Season 4 is just bad in different ways.

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Well, Part 2, "Reunion," which you read, has Quinn going hysterical and shrieking, "I saw this world overrun with Kromaggs! They took my identity! They made me think I had a brother! They took Rembrandt's mustache, Professor! His mustache!" That's as much as I initially wanted to do until suddenly this scene with Rembrandt putting up photos of absent sliders came up.

And I guess, if I am to give in and properly acknowledge Colin, it'll be what I wrote above -- Quinn will have a line indicating that Marc Scott Zicree's plan to reveal Colin as a planted Kromagg clone was realized in the 15 year time gap between "The Seer" and "Reunion." It's either that or ignoring him.

There it is. Thanks, Informant!

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I have another question for Informant.

I think that when writing "Slide Effects," I was extremely contemptuous of Seasons 3 - 5. I have tried to not do that with SLIDERS REBORN and gone to some lengths to be respectful. Rembrandt grumbles about the time he had to fight 2D beings and a radioactive worm. Arlo Higgins from "Please Press One" has a cameo as does Crowley from SUPERNATURAL (well, Jack from "Net Worth"). It's all played for laughs, but not in a mean way, I think. For example...

From off-camera, Laurel screams. The sliders rush over to her. Laurel points a trembling hand at a display case. Inside is the lifeless corpse of a man in his mid-twenties slumped against the glass.

WADE: "Deric?"
REMBRANDT: (peering at the case) "That's the psychic guy?"
WADE: "No, the other one! Man. He's looking good!"

Laurel looks ready to start crying.

LAUREL: "The guy's dead! He's been mounted like a trophy! He's -- "
WADE: "It's fine, he's a robot."

Laurel looks relieved.

I mean, that's not dismissive or contemptuous, right? I refer to episodes I hate in humourous way, but not in the sense of saying, "My god, that was so stupid!" but rather, "My goodness, we and the sliders have certainly seen a lot of crazy crap, haven't we?"

But... um, I'm concerned about Colin. The character of Colin has never sat well with me simply because I think Quinn works best as a loner, an isolated only child, and the Charlie O'Connell role may have made Jerry happy but did not serve Quinn at all. However, a reader, Christian T. Chung, suggested that I might address the Colin spy-plot and reveal that he was a Kromagg clone. At this point, Colin is so distant from SLIDERS REBORN's concerns that I couldn't see how it could in any way serve REBORN.

But then came a scene where Rembrandt is doing up the Sliders Incorporated boardroom and he puts up a portrait of Mallory, paying tribute to a comrade and friend who is sadly not with us anymore. It then occurred to me -- wouldn't Rembrandt want to put Colin's photograph up as well? But... I just didn't want Colin on the wall. I don't like him, Informant! I don't want him!!! I have accepted Maggie Beckett, Diana Davis, Mallory, the zombies, the mini-scoops and the pirates, but I don't want Colin Mallory!

REMBRANDT: "Could we get Colin up here too?"
QUINN: "Could we not? I'm still getting over finding out that he came out of a Kromagg cloning farm as one of fifteen replicants programmed to kill us."

I was thinking Quinn encountered that Kromagg cloning farm at some point during the 15 year time gap between "The Seer" and SLIDERS REBORN. But now that I've been expressing the importance of respect and courtesy -- isn't it kind of mean-spirited to bring up Colin just to write the bastard off? And also -- I don't put too much stock in actors, but I'm having trouble imagining Jerry O'Connell being prepared to say this line. I think he would refuse to perform it. Unless John were around to tell him to get his ego out of the way and that this is what he gets for bringing his talentless sibling into a leading role?

A part of me wonders if I can argue that Quinn's dialogue is simply reinforcing the original creative intention for Colin. But let's be honest, that line is there because I hate Colin so god damn much. But then shouldn't I just avoid referring to him at all? At the same time -- if Mallory's portrait is going on the wall, it raises the question of why Colin isn't there. Or do we just decide not to have Mallory's portrait at all? What would Informant do? What would Informant do?!?!

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The fans have generally derided David Peckinpah for the movie ripoffs. But the truth is that David Peckinpah was totally right about SLIDERS in that David Peckinpah saw SLIDERS as a platform for stepping into different genres beyond alternate history.

The problem was execution in that Peckinpah became fixated on a single genre -- the monster movie -- and permitted substandard writing and production to run the show into the ground. Nobody complained when Dan Harmon went a similar route on COMMUNITY because Harmon was concerned with quality and viewer enjoyment and made his pastiches a loving postmodern homage to horror / espionage / survival action / space opera whereas Peckinpah's pastiches were lazy and witless imitations.

Peckinpah was merely wrong in practice, but his theory was very much in the right direction: he viewed SLIDERS as a multi-genre series that could be absolutely anything. Crime fiction. Romantic comedy. Westerns (he loved Westerns). Naval intrigue. Espionage. Mumblecore. Realtime. Reality TV. Game shows. Alien invasions. War movies. And monster movies. He just got stuck in the last one.

And that's part of why, in my own SLIDERS writing, I happily embrace concepts that I don't actually like all that much. I've tried to embrace every season of SLIDERS; Maggie Beckett was an awful character onscreen, but tap into her militaristic edge and contrast her with how she's a professional while the sliders are amateurs and you've really got something. The multiversal crisis scale of Season 4 can be rendered so long as its done with SLIDERS' trademark humour and absurdity. And the Season 3 monsters should be demonstrative of SLIDERS' limitless range and infinite versatility.

The only fundamentally unworkable concepts in SLIDERS, as far as I can tell, are (a) Colin Mallory (b) the Season 4 Kromaggs and (c) the idea that the vortex can only sustain four people.