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I used to be an obsessive DVD collector. I don't collect physical media much now, but I have kept my DVD (yes, standard definition DVD) collection.

I once spent crazy money on a complete set of DANGER MAN, half of which I gave away to my father (he loves the American episodes). There came a point when I had to ask myself whether or not I would ever actually rewatch any of these discs, and each time I asked myself that, I found myself more often than not deciding against the purchase.

I was a huge fan of EARLY EDITION and didn't realize a full series DVD release was out! Thanks for mentioning that, I will snap that up.

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I'm super-confused about movie ticket prices where you live. Alamo Drafthouse seemed to be charging $9.73 USD for regular admission but AMC was charging $12 USD for regular admission. I'm probably looking at the wrong pages. How much is the average movie ticket?

It looks like AMC Stubs would charge you $20 a month and allows you to see three movies a week, which means it could be worthwhile if you're someone who sees at least two movies a month. However, $20 a month, even for three movies a week, is a much bigger fee than $8 a month for one movie a month. https://www.moneydigest.com/1548760/amc … rth-price/

Tickets here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada tend to be about $15 USD if you buy them online (factoring in an online booking fee), and about $12 USD if bought in person, but who's going to do that? It's slow and it's reserved seating, so if you go to the theatre just in time for the show, all the good seats are probably gone (unless you're watching THE CROW in 2024, nobody wants to see it).

$15 USD for one movie as well as having to physically go to the theatre and park and enter and see it on their schedule makes me feel like they should be paying me for my time. I imagine a lot of people feel that way and elect to stay home and watch Netflix. $8 USD, however, feels like a reasonable price.

Jim_Hall wrote:
ireactions wrote:

Thanks for sharing that, but the Pilot is not really an effective test case. The pilot episode was edited either on film or high resolution analog videotape. It already looked sharp and crisp because it was not subject to the blurriness and field mismatching issues of episodes 1.02 - 1.08 being on low resolution tape. Upscaling the pilot episode is shooting fish in a barrel for any upscaler whether AI or a simple bicubic scaler. A real test case would be a scene from the unusually hazy "Last Days" or "Luck of the Draw" with its blurriness and film judder.

I just tried a Luck of the Draw clip. It's pretty bad. One thing about Video AI is it has helped me notice things I never had. Objects, people in the distance, etc. I'll go to my grave believing everything was shot on film, minus the special effects.

I don't think the analog videotape stored episodes of SLIDERS are going to be effective for image sharpening. Any restoration for those episodes likely has to be via generating new image frames by redrawing them entirely rather than upscaling them.

I don't know why you need to go to your grave believing it was shot on film. Of course it was shot on film. If it were shot on videotape, there would be no field mismatches from the telecining and frame conversion and no film judder. I don't think SLIDERS being shot on film is any kind of controversial conspiracy theory.

Thanks for sharing that, but the Pilot is not really an effective test case. The pilot episode was edited either on film or high resolution analog videotape. It already looked sharp and crisp because it was not subject to the blurriness and field mismatching issues of episodes 1.02 - 1.08 being on low resolution tape. Upscaling the pilot episode is shooting fish in a barrel for any upscaler whether AI or a simple bicubic scaler. A real test case would be a scene from the unusually hazy "Last Days" or "Luck of the Draw" with its blurriness and film judder.

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I enjoyed THE HUNGER GAMES novel trilogy and the first film was fine, but after that... I'd already been through the experience in prose and didn't feel inclined to relive it in movie theatres. But I'm sure the movies are fine.

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I went to see THE CROW (2024) in movie theatres, which I cannot recommend. In fact, I don't consider most movies worth the $15 USD or so ticket price (with online booking fee). However, the main cinema chain in my city is now offering a subscription: about $8 USD a month for one prepaid movie ticket. An upcharge of $2.50 for 3D and $4 for IMAX. All subsequent tickets for the month are charged at the $8 starting rate.

At that price, I am inclined to see at least one movie a month and considered $8 a fair price for the gleeful incompetence of the new CROW movie. And then I found myself looking at upcoming theatrical releases: THE SUBSTANCE with Demi Moore, MY OLD ASS with Aubrey Plaza, NEVER LET GO with Hallie Berry, all coming out September, none of which I would pay $15 to see, all of which are worth $8 each to me.

I assume that this is a good deal for the cineplex who now get a guaranteed $96 out of me a year and potentially more if there is more than one movie I'm interested in that month and don't feel as resistant to the price.

How have the results been? I won't have time to try it until my EMPIRE cleanup is done.

I am not very optimistic that anything can clean up episodes that were transferred to low resolution analog videotape, but I'm always ready to change my mind.

I can't tell if your results are any good. I can't fullscreen the Instagram video. But I hope you're happy with it and I could certainly take another run at it after I finish my AI EMPIRE STRIKES BACK cleanup in a few days.

The fan-produced 4K80 release is now out on specialist fan preservation sites. It's a 4K digital scan of the theatrical cut of EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, made from a 35mm print and a 16mm print, cleaned up by fans to assemble the best versions of both prints and address the faded colour and recreate how it looked in cinemas in 1980.  https://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k80/

I've looked at the first version and it looks just like the non-special VHS version I remember in the 90s, authentic but dirty and with grain so high in some scenes it's like static baked into the frame. Other scenes have a natural level of grain. It looks like a medium quality 720p image (because a theatrical film print is several generations removed from the original negative).

While this is a theatrical print scan, the movie did not actually look this grainy in movie theatres in 1980. I wasn't there in 1980, but I know that the movie theatres of the era created a softer film image due to the film protector light being scattered when passing through film and then impacting the screen. This would have added a sheen that diminished the grain. In contrast, modern backlit displays on home HDTVs form a pixel-based image with black borders around each pixel that have the result of sharpening any and all grain.

I think 4K80 would be releasable on Disney+ if the video were downscaled to a sharper 1080p image and then run through AI grain filtering to tone down the grain. Then an AI algorithm could add a modest amount of grain back to each shot. The entire movie would then have a consistent level of AI-overlaid but natural looking film grain. If it's consistent, it's easy to get used to whereas the noise becomes distracting if some scenes look static-coated and others look clear.

Admittedly, for streaming services, grain is the first thing to be removed from digital files and then a grain texture is added back on during playback as an overlay.

I've downscaled the file to 1080p and I'm going to run it through Topaz AI grain refinement just to get the grain consistent. Then I will pass it along to my niece as the version of EMPIRE that her father probably saw in theatres. I had previously passed along to her a version of the DESPECIALIZED EDTION for EMPIRE (a fan-created hybrid of blu-ray footage and upscaled DVDs).

DESPECIALIZED looked okay at 720p, but on modern 4K TVs, it was looking very low-resolution for a lot of the DVD-sourced footage. I ran it through a Topaz AI upscale to boost it to a somewhat sharper 1080p, but 4K80 will look more consistent. Where DESPECIALIZED looks super-sharp in the blu-ray sourced scenes and slightly blurry in the DVD-sourced scenes, 4K80 looks moderately sharp throughout the entire film and the AI cleanup will also make it moderately grainy throughout as well. That said, I'm sure the film editors at Disney could do an even better job by going at it shot by shot.

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I've been trying to find the right metaphor for the argument where certain individuals claim that masks don't filter viruses because they (supposedly) read mask studies where participants self-reported on whether or not they wore masks and got sick. These studies are where the mask-wearing participants, by their own admission, did not wear masks consistently.

To me, citing self-reported mask wearing studies as 'evidence' that masks don't work is like saying computers don't compute because a lot of people have trouble plugging them in.

Or like saying planes don't fly because a lot of people don't have pilot's licenses.

Or like saying smoke detectors don't detect smoke because people forget to replace the battery.

Or like saying bookshelves don't assemble because people lose the nuts and bolts.

Or like saying fire extinguishers don't extinguish because people forget to refill and repressurize them.

Or like saying phones don't take photos because people can't find the camera app.

Or like saying beds don't work because people suffer from insomnia.

People may fail to use equipment as per standard operating procedures. They may fail to use the equipment at all, but that is a human failure, not a failure of the equipment and the basic principles behind the equipment.

A mask wearing study is a study of whether or not people wear masks consistently, not whether or not masks work.

My hope is to get this metaphor down to two sentences with further research and development, and I will be assembling a committee of 12 and retaining a public relations firm to compress this further.

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The sabotage of Georgia's process for vote counting is scaring me.
https://www.salon.com/2024/08/31/organi … ing-chaos/

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I was referring to Kamala by surname too, but she rebranded Biden's campaign with her given name, and then I read this article:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/1 … g-00173064

People who have long known Harris say she sees using her first name as a way to be informal with voters and constituents — to send a message that she’s working for them, that they should hold her accountable.

"... when she was talking directly to voters, or constituents, she would usually say, ‘Just call me Kamala,’” said a person who worked with Harris while she was attorney general, granted anonymity to speak candidly about their experiences with the vice president. “I think that was a way to say like, you’re the boss. I’m working for you.”

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The polls cannot be trusted. They couldn't be trusted when Biden was spiraling because slanted Republican polls were throwing off the averages, making a very close election seem like Trump was in the lead. They can't be trusted now because the enthusiasm of Kamala Harris reception and campaign means Democrats are more inclined to respond to polls and Trump supporters are less inclined to do so.

The likely situation is that the race remains close and competitive, and Democratic pollsters have warned that Kamala (as she prefers voters call her) has a lot of work to do.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/2 … s-00176065

That said, Trump clearly thinks he's losing. He's given up on impactful campaign events. He's stopped trying to build a coalition. His hope is to overturn or stall election results in court and with supporters in electoral offices.

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My review on the "Perihelion" novel was featured in the X-Cast podcast! In the mailbag section, podcasters AJ Black and Carl Sweeney share various comments from different fans. Then AJ Black says at 1:05:17:

"Ibrahim had a really brilliant review, but it's a really long review, so I am not going to read that out."

Faint praise, but it resounds in my ears.

:-D

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ireactions - You did ask for a representative. The other James above that you mention is not a government rep. smile Otherwise I probably would have included who you did.

Semantics, I know...oh, well...

I think you are confused. The James Carville Jr. you mentioned and quoted is the same person I quoted. Carville Jr. is not a Republican. However, Carville Jr. is also strongly opposed to the social justice focus of a number of Democrats, in particular Bernie Sanders.

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Gina Carano is a nutjob. Studios have a moral obligation to not have transphobic anti-vaxxers using the platform of studio projects to espouse and disseminate bigotry and false health information. When people complain about consequences for transphobic comments or fake health information, they're complaining about being held responsible for incredibly harmful behaviour.

I am a big fan of her work especially on the movie HAYWIRE but even my adoration for Gina Carano isn't going to blind me to what she is: a delusional bigot whom Disney would no longer supply a platform. No one is entitled to international stardom to perpetuate prejudice and to tell people not to protect themselves from COVID-19.

James Carville Jr. is a retired Democratic strategist and... a mixed bag. He's had ridiculous comments, claiming that women are to blame for the struggles of present day Democrats when maybe, just maybe, the problem was the tired white dude at the top of the party. (Maybe. I'm still thinking about that.)

Carville's argument is: the Electoral College means that a small amount of American voters ultimate determine who wins the White House, the Senate and the House -- and campaigns focused on "woke left" voters don't acquire the numbers needed to win in the unbalanced political system of America.

The Black Lives Matter protests were often met with police officers attacking protestors to trigger fights to justify arrests, or firing upon vehicles just passing by. But the protests were also just really destructive; burning down police precincts strikes me as insane no matter what issues one has with police.

The situation in Israel and Gaza is incredibly difficult and I find that anyone saying they stand with Isreal or Palestine is lacking in nuance and simply picking a brand. Grizzlor highlighted the ignorant lunacy of the "Gays for Palestine" banners when homosexuality is criminalized in Gaza. The October 2023 attack on Israel was horrific. The support for Israel's attacks on civilians is deranged.

The Biden presidency is in an impossible situation, funding and supplying Israel because it gives them a seat at the table for ceasefire negotiations, and Biden has called Benjamin Netanyahu an "asshole" for this genocide in which Biden is resistantly complicit. There are no easy answers, no good solutions, and I would suggest a civilians-centric message over supporting one side or the other.

The whole Bud beer promotion is absurd and ridiculous on every level. People are absurd and ridiculous to criticize Anheuser-Busch for marketing their beer with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney like diversity is to be shamed. Anheuser-Busch is absurd and ridiculous for not recognizing that a massive portion of their sales come from transphobic individuals and the loss of their custom would affect their sales.

Anheuser-Busch was further ridiculous in cutting ties with Dylan Mulvaney which led to the LGTBTQ boycotting Anheuser-Busch, which meant Anheuser-Busch was now boycotted by both bigots and allies on both sides. America is absurd and ridiculous for being a country where a transgender woman holding a beer on social media is some sort of crisis.

Grizzlor seems to be implying that diversity needs to be curtailed, that transphobia needs to be respected, and that consequences for sexual harassment and falsehood (which he describes as cancel culture) need to be suspended. That sounds insane and ridiculous to me, so perhaps I'm misreading him.

Perhaps he is saying that Anheuser-Busch wandered into a fight they were not equipped to win if the goal was to sell beer to everyone including the transphobic.

Perhaps he is saying: the devotedly woke-left demographic is too narrow a coalition to win Electoral College victories where a handful of votes can make all the difference.

Perhaps he is saying that, fairly or unfairly, Democrats can't win by campaigning on social justice ideology alone.

Perhaps he is saying that Democrats need votes from aggrieved white men, from people who don't subscribe wholeheartedly to Black Lives Matter, from people who get weirdly triggered when a transgender woman holds a beer on social media.

He wouldn't be wrong; Democrats need those voters too.

James Carville Jr. wrote:

Do we want to be an ideological cult or do we want to have a majoritarian instinct to be a majority party?

The urban core is not gonna get it done. What we need is power! Do you understand? That’s what this is about.

The fate of the world depends on the Democrats getting their shit together and winning in November. We have to beat Trump. The Republicans have destroyed their party and turned it into a personality cult, but if anyone thinks they can’t win, they’re out of their damn minds.

You’re not going to change the turnout model. It’s never been done and it’s not going to be done.  Eighteen percent of the country elects more than half of our senators. That’s the deal, fair or not.

The party has to have a majoritarian instinct. We’ve got to be skilled enough to excite our most important voters, African Americans, to get our own new exciting demographic out, these college-educated women, and also to cut into the margins in the more rural and small-town parts of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, places like that.

The purpose of a political party is to acquire power. All right? Without power, nothing matters. It means building coalitions to win elections. It means sometimes having to sit back and listen to what people think and framing your message accordingly.

We can’t do anything for anyone if we don’t start there and then acquire more power. Without power, you have nothing. You just have talking points.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21172111/ ..... podcast
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics .. s-carville
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/20 .. cal-cult/

I'm sorry it wasn't good for Grizzlor. I'd be curious to know what Slider_Quinn21 thought and if he feels the series is incomplete now cancelled.

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To me, the Jedi thought they were the best person for every job, but that wasn't really the reason they fell.  I think the reason they fell was that they underestimated Sidious.  They knew about him in the Phantom Menace and, unless I'm missing something, never really looked for him.  They would go after him if there was an opportunity, but I would think finding Sidious would've been their top priority.  Mace Windu and a group of Jedi Knights should've been out in the galaxy looking for him.

I get that he's hiding and it would be difficult to find him.  But it doesn't seem like the Jedi even tried.  Sidious had a great plan, and he executed it.  I don't know if any of the issues that Luke or Rey or even Dooku had with the Jedi would've fixed that.

I've sometimes wondered if STAR WARS will pull a bit of a retcon on the prequel-Jedi the way ENTERPRISE featured Vulcans as unpleasant, dour, miserable, unsupportive, and kind of useless, declaring the superiority and supremacy of their logic and increasingly isolationist attitudes-- only for a new showrunner in the fourth season to reveal that the Vulcans of Seasons 1 - 3 had been dealing with generational trauma and a pandemic with a mentally transmitted disease.

The situational, cultural and political strife had been worsened by how the original teachings of Surak, the Vulcan philosopher whose teachings of logic over emotion became the driving force of Vulcan society, had been distorted and misunderstood due to the loss of his guiding principle of infinite diversity in infinite combinations, a key tenet that balances logic with compassion and respect for all living things and cultures even if they do not devote themselves to logic.

Captain Archer restores Surak's full teachings to Vulcan society, setting the path for the Vulcans to become the open-minded and caring but emotionally aloof friends of the original STAR TREK series. I wonder if the Rey movie can maybe delve into how the failed, useless Jedi of the prequels were operating on a distorted foundation and rediscover the actual origins of the Jedi and the true role they can play in the galaxy.

My personal opinion on why the Jedi failed from an in-universe perspective: the Old Republic era Council and Luke's Jedi school were way too militarized. When you teach people that the Force is all about hacking and slashing away at armies to win wars, it creates a breeding ground for dark side tendencies because combat-first emphasizes power and dominance over compassion and empathy.

Ideally, Jedi training would be about Force sensitivity and applying that Force sensitivity to a profession or passion which does not have to be combat. In AIRBENDER, not every earth/fire/air/earth bender is a soldier: some of them run restaurants or build dams or transport or plumbing. The Jedi Council and Luke's approach to Jedi was to create supersoldiers, never creating any super-therapists or super-construction workers or super-doctors.

I recognize that as the franchise is called STAR WARS, screenwriters and directors will gravitate to combat, but if STAR WARS wants to present the Jedi as competent, then one path may be that the Jedi become less of an army and portrayed as an unintrusive religion where Jedi apply the Force in many areas of life and fighting is just one profession among many for Force users and maybe the term Jedi is broadened so it's not just warriors.

Rian Johnson offered a bit of a path to that in THE LAST JEDI: "The Force does not belong to the Jedi. To say that if the Jedi die, the light dies -- it's vanity, can't you feel that?" I might suggest we say that the Force does not belong to Jedi soldiers.

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Grizzlor wrote:

The young female-led, almost nonstop, social media cancel police from the left is completely un-American

Can you identify any representatives of this subgroup of Democrats you're highlighting and who they've cancelled over what? Because without clarification, this just comes off as a remark from someone who is scared of girls and young people and thinks girls and women are not Americans which I'm sure is not your intention.

The rest seems like reasonable opinion. I mean... it is going to be a close election.

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The Bulwark: Trump will probably lose.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-is-g … e-probably

They point out that Trump has given up on trying to win more votes. His team is focused on winning the Electoral College, winning specific areas by a handful of votes, overturning specific areas where they lost in court. It's a narrow play and a lousy strategy. They emphasize that Trump will probably lose, but of course can't guarantee it.

I'm not sure.

One thing that occurred to me: a lot of Lucas' work in the 1990s was trying to make money. Lucasarts. ILM. The re-releases of the trilogy. The Special Editions. The reason Lucas did all that: he was wounded both emotionally and financially by how Marcia Lucas divorced him and took half his money. Lucas did not feel Marcia had done half the work. He was trying to rebuild the half of his fortune that he had lost to his ex-wife.

I would venture to say she did a vital quarter as his creative partner and another quarter as his long-suffering wife. The Jedi falling prey to emotional connections (ugh, right?) and being devastated by someone on the inside who turned against them is also an accidental self-portrait of how Lucas felt betrayed by his wife who left him half of who he was before both financially and creatively. That surprising betrayal (for Lucas) is represented in how he made the Jedi inept.

I haven't really been in the mood to watch STAR WARS on TV, but I'm sorry that any show gets cancelled. The reviews for THE ACOLYTE on Den of Geek, a review site I enjoy, were poor to middling.

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The Jedi being incompetent failures didn't originate in the Disney era, but in the prequel era, and George Lucas is absolutely responsible for that. I'm not sure if Lucas' authorial intent was to present them so, but note that in THE PHANTOM MENACE, Qui-Gon Jinn doesn't think it's his job to free slaves; in ATTACK OF THE CLONES, the Jedi somehow miss the Republic becoming a fascist empire and Anakin didn't bother to free his enslaved mother for at least a decade (and he still left the slave trade intact). In REVENGE OF THE SITH, Anakin becomes evil because... something or other about how he loved his wife and Jedi aren't supposed to have feelings.

If Jedi can't free slaves, they are useless. I don't know if that's the take Lucas intended, but he wrote it and he filmed it.

In THE LAST JEDI, Luke notes: "Now that they're extinct, the Jedi are romanticized, deified. But if your strip away the myth and look at their deeds, the legacy of the Jedi is failure. Hypocrisy, hubris. At the height of their powers, they allowed Darth Sidious to rise, create the Empire, and wipe them out. It was a Jedi Master who was responsible for the training and creation of Darth Vader." He's not wrong.

The entire arc seems subconscious on Lucas' part: the great love of Lucas' life was Marcia Lou Griffin, whom he met in film school and adored and married. She was a film editor and script consultant; Lucas was a good director and awkward screenwriter, and STAR WARS came alive with Marcia (and uncredited screenwriters Gloria and Willard Hyuck) adding life and joy to Lucas' plot and setpieces.

Shortly before THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, Lucas became obsessed with building up his own film studio and business. Lucas' devotion to Skywalker Ranch, Industrial Light and Magic, THX, Skywalker Sound while producing EMPIRE, RETURN OF THE JEDI and the Indiana Jones movies created entire industries -- but his interaction with his wife became near non-existent, and he dismissed her pleas that they spend more time together.

Despite this, Lucas claims he was shocked when Marcia told him she wanted a divorce and that she had fallen in love with someone else... and he responded by asking Marcia to wait until after the release of RETURN before proceeding with the divorce.

After Marcia left him, Lucas went on a long hiatus from filmmaking, obsessing over filmmaking technology over actually making films. THE PHANTOM MENACE is a pretty clear display of how Lucas creates when his ex-wife isn't there as a creative partner. ATTACK OF THE CLONES and REVENGE OF THE SITH show Anakin Skywalker foolishly daring to fall in love and destroyed by having feelings at which point he becomes a technological monster.

Lucas portrays Jedi in the prequels as distant, disengaged, oblivious, defeated by emotions, betrayed by romance, and the most prominent Jedi becomes a destroyed man in a shell of sci-fi armour. That strikes me as an accidental yet incredibly telling self-portrait.

Who would the Jedi be if Lucas had decided to drop THX and ILM from his repertoire and devote that time to his marriage, and if he'd written the prequels with Marcia Lucas as his creative partner and the heart of STAR WARS?

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Okay, that's clearly a facetious remark.

BTW, despite my hatred of black women (sarcastic claim) I found the best, shorter speech of that night to have come from Texas representative Jasmine Crockett, who went viral for putting Marjorie Taylor Green in her place during a hearing (admiration for a black woman).

While I have had as many disagreements with Grizzlor as you, if not more, surely we don't need to blatantly misrepresent his statements to disagree with him.

QuinnSlidr, I am going to respectfully ask you to take a 48 hour break and step back from this. Send me an email if you want to talk.

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Hillary Clinton is an extremely controversial figure even among Democrats especially with her voting record on war and her fervent support of Wall Street and big banks. Anyone should be allowed to question her supposed commitment to democracy without being attacked.

Grizzlor is allowed to find speeches boring regardless of who is delivering them; that in itself is not racist or sexist. I think to call it that without more evidence is an escalation and a leap. I mean, nobody called you or me racist for hoping President Biden would stay in the race and not feeling ready for the very qualified PoC Kamala Harris to take the lead.

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I like to use AI to sort out my thoughts, ideas, arguments and opinions. I often use AI to organize or correct my reasoning or logic. While I used to use Copilot a lot, lately, I've been using Google Gemini.

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I don't think every show needs to run 100 episodes -- but every TV series should have at least 100 stories to tell or it's not a TV series. If a show can only last three seasons, it shouldn't be a show, at least not to me. (Mini serieses, I think of as a separate category.) To say LOST should only have run three seasons would be, to me, an indictment of LOST as a TV show. I think it probably had around five years in it, and they seem to have done well enough with six seasons if Slider_Quinn21 enjoyed it.

I wonder what Slider_Quinn21 thought of the DVD epilogue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMjPzV2RvO8

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Grizzlor wrote:

Why is Hilary Clinton STILL given prime time?

QuinnSlidr wrote to Grizzlor: Hillary nailed it with her incredible speech, you anti-Hillary biased shill. If you don't like dems, perhaps republicans are more your thing?

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Hillary Clinton is a public figure, and Grizzlor has every right to be critical of her.

I know I've had issues with Grizzlor in the past, but he has every right to speak critically of any politician or public figure, as do you. He has every right to question Hillary Clinton's presence just as you had every right to call her speech incredible.

QuinnSlidr wrote:

If it weren't for the electoral college FRAUD in 2016, she would have been president. Not that horrible excuse of a human being.

I understand that the electoral college is unfair, and I suppose I can see it as a form of procedural fraud to subvert the popular vote -- but the implication of calling it fraud without qualification is to call it illegal... and it isn't. It's the system we have. It isn't fair, but it isn't fraud in the form of criminal deception, which is the conventional definition of "fraud".

I recognize that it is outrageous, but just because you and I despise something does not make it fraud in legal terms. We also shouldn't conflate the influence of foreign powers in 2016 with actual election fraud when Democrats from Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton herself have denied that the elections were fraudulent. We don't get to cry fraud just because we lost.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

No personal attacks, guys.

Thank you for saying that. Sorry I wasn't here sooner. My favourite actress has been ill. I've been busy.

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I would say: my criteria for a favourite show is a highly personal list of attributes and others may disagree. I formed the list by looking at how LOST is Slider_Quinn21's favourite show. LOST was, judging from Slider_Quinn21's posts, a good product. It lasted long enough to become a part of his life; it didn't degrade or devolve to the point where it couldn't tell its stories or complete its narrative goals; it had a conclusion.

I recall watching LOST up to the point when Jack returns to the island and is met by Jin, at which point, I was looking for something more life-affirming out of TV shows and less... unnerving.

While I didn't watch LOST past Jack's return to the Island, it might be argued: LOST was an ensemble show touching on various lives and rotating through them, and LOST was about unknowable mysteries that might have no answer. Therefore, dropping or losing characters, blind alleys, and an emphasis on characterization over mystery is not necessarily the show becoming subfunctional/dysfunctional but rather an avoidable part of exploring its core themes, some less rewarding than others.

I can't speak to this definitively, but around the point I stopped watching LOST, I did feel that the mysteries of the Island would not become more meaningful if we learned that it's the site of a crashed alien spaceship that warps time and space and manifests anomalies based on the internal conflicts of the humans in proximity. That strikes me as reducing the unknowable to sci-fi technobabble terms, when the show does better by using the paranormal nature of the island to illustrate the character conflicts -- while leaving the exact means of manifestation unknown.

That said, isn't there some sort of DVD/Blu-ray short film that 'explains' 'everything'? Knowing LOST, I assume the explanations are as confounding as the mysteries.
https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/lost-epilo … -questions

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I think, for me, ONCE UPON A TIME is my equivalent of LOST: a complex set of arcs and plots alternating between flashbacks and present day scenes, except ONCE UPON A TIME had the benefit of its mythology -- Disney versions of fairy tales -- already being established long before the show premiered. In contrast, LOST had to create its own mythology and had a much longer ladder to climb. I think ONCE UPON A TIME's whimsical, gentle, sweet tone proved a better match to my tastes and longings and insecurities and neuroses than LOST.

At the end of the day, what I want out of TV (and life) is BROOKLYN NINE-NINE: lighthearted hijinks from highly competent people working to make the world a little nicer one day at a time. (See also: PARKS AND RECREATION, ANIMAL CONTROL, THE ORVILLE.)

My niece would also point out that I have an obsession with TV shows about troubled women fighting crime (WYNONNA EARP, THE BLACKLIST, BLINDSPOT, CORONER, AGENT CARTER), but aside from WYNONNA EARP, I would have to call each one of them flawed favourites. I would have a separate category for flawed favourites, some of which are only flawed in minor ways and some which are catastrophic disasters. (I need to rewatch WYNONNA EARP to decide if it is a favourite.)

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Why do I say a show needs to last four years to qualify as a favourite show? I think four years is the point where the show has become a part of my life. The Arrowverse was a part of my life. At three years, I'm still thinking that the show is a temporary situation; at four years, it feels long-term.

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I didn't think about THE SIMPSONS, or SOUTH PARK, but I guess I think of those as being in a class of their own, separate from live action TV shows.

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Jim_Hall on Twitter asked Slideheads on Twitter what their favourite show of all time would be if it were not SLIDERS. I suppose SLIDERS is the TV show I think about most. But it isn't actually good. For a show to be my favourite, I would need to say that it:

(a) Was a professional, enjoyable product throughout
(b) Had a decent run of at least four seasons
(c) Had no major shifts in production that made the series subfunctional or outright dysfunctional
(d) Had a series finale that served as a satisfying conclusion

Very, very few shows meet these requirements for me to consider it a favourite. We can dispense with short-term wonders like EERIE INDIANA or WONDERFALLS. But even shows I really like struggled.

ONCE UPON A TIME was, on the whole, a really enjoyable, well-written, wonderfully produced, beautifully acted show -- but for some weird reason, the network renewed it for a seventh season even though all the cast contracts had expired after six, and the show had a baffling final year with new and uninspired characters.

BLINDSPOT and FRINGE were really great shows, but both shows were hit with budget cuts in their fifth and final seasons that truncated some of their plans, and while I enjoyed them, they lost a degree of functionality in their storytelling platforms.

I never finished LOST, but Slider_Quinn21 might say it meets all the conditions. I really liked DEEP SPACE NINE, but the finale was weirdly haphazard and inert due to the struggle to edit too much content into a relatively short running length, so it fails to meet the requirement of a strong series finale. SMALLVILLE was very badly written for too many seasons and its series finale was comically incompetent.

PARKS AND RECREATION was fantastic, but it had an awkward first season and that throws off the average for considering it an enjoyable, professional product on the whole. COMMUNITY had that awkward fourth season. DOCTOR WHO is really a different show each time there's a different showrunner, and I guess I would call the Steven Moffat era my favourite.

But on the whole, the only show I watched in full that was a professional, enjoyable product throughout; had a run of at least four seasons; didn't become subfunctional; and had a satisfying series finale is BROOKLYN NINE NINE.

So... I guess BROOKLYN NINE NINE is my favourite show. I honestly thought it would be FRINGE or ONCE UPON A TIME. I never thought I'd end up choosing the low stakes workplace comedy cop show as my favourite show, but here we are.

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Well, as the article notes: AI is pretty overhyped. The artificial intelligence we have now isn't actually that intelligent, its outputs are inaccurate and unreliable and unstable, its capabilities are exaggerated, its use is limited, its applications are narrow, its productivity increases are small, it's hitting a plateau of advancement, it's dependent on human generated data that can be cut off.
https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-mon … telligence

The AI in our upscaling programs might be AI in terms of matching the algorithm to the image or video, but the actual algorithms for each element or texture in the image strike me as human made and human tested. AI still can't wrangle a decent version of the Season 1 episodes of SLIDERS.

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Why AI is not that impressive:
https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-mon … telligence

Even that AI video of muppets -- well, AI didn't design the muppets, it mimicked the human designs. It didn't really write a song, it just recombined existing songs. It's just reiterating work humans made first, and while AI might speed up workflow, it's hardly creating anything.

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I deliberately use low power AI models because (a) they're free and (b) they don't use as much electricity. I'm primarily using GPT-4 Turbo, GPT-4o Mini and Gemini 1.5 Flash right now.

GPT-4 was originally offered for free via Microsoft Bing (renamed Copilot), but due to the electricity cost of 0.0005 kWh per message, Microsoft had to put it behind a paywall and eventually discontinue it in favour of the cheaper GPT-4 Turbo at 0.00005 kWh per message.

Copilot has about 140 million users and each free tier user gets 100 messages per day, so Copilot on GPT-4 at 0.0005 kWh per message was using 7,000 MWh daily, enough electricity to power over 200,000 homes in America for one day.

GPT-4 Turbo was not as capable or powerful as GPT-4, but Turbo was faster and the fact that it only needed around 10 percent of the electricity used by GPT-4 (with 140 million users using the equivalent of powering around 20,000 homes in America per day) made it a sustainable free model.

From what I can tell, the current GPT-4o model uses around 0.000025 kW per message, but I use the free GPT-4o Mini which I think uses 0.00000214286 kW per message and also Gemini 1.5 Flash which I think uses 0.000000714286 kW per message.

If those models had 140 million daily active users, GPT-4o would be using enough electricity to power about 10,000 American homes per day, GPT-4o Mini would be using the equivalent power of 1,000 American homes per day, and Gemini 1.5 Flash would be using the power of about 300 homes per day.

I'm pretty happy with GPT-4 Turbo for searches, Gemini 1.5 Flash for analysis and GPT-4o Mini for more creative outputs.

Please note: aside from GPT-4, the power usage of the other models is not known, and these estimates above are drawn from noting that on Poe.com, resource usage is measured in "compute points" with GPT-4 at 3,500 points per message. GPT-4 Turbo uses 350 points, GPT-4o uses 175, GPT-4o Mini uses 15 and Gemini 1.5 Flash uses 5. The estimates are assuming a linear relation between points and electricity usage that may not be the case and is a simplification for discussion.

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How AI’s booms and busts are a distraction
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/3674 … nce-google

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Honestly, a lot of this reads like magical thinking, just the assumption that AI technology advances effortlessly and exponentially. I'm not saying it couldn't, but it's still an assumption.

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Some thoughts on the likely refusals to certify election results, some optimistic, some not.

Vote Size Matters
https://www.salon.com/2024/08/16/the-tr … t-matters/

Officials Could Face Severe Punishments if They Refuse to Certify
https://www.salon.com/2024/08/17/expert … o-certify/

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IB: I'm really looking forward to THE X-FILES: THE OFFICIAL ARCHIVES Volume 2.

KIMON: You saw that the release date is now October 2025?

IB: Maybe they are infusing the anti-alien magnetite into the ink on each page.

KIMON: Good call. You never know when the Colonists will slide into our universe.

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So, Kimon of EatTheCorn.com, basically the Temporal Flux of THE X-FILES -- he and I were discussing who the most incompetent people in THE X-FILES might be.

IB:
Honestly, the main people I would get fired are: the Alien Bounty Hunter and Krycek. They never seem to keep track of who they're working for or what project they're pursuing and are constantly turning against and murdering colleagues before finishing their work which is no way to create a respectful professional environment.

The Alien Bounty Hunter seems to crash a lot of vehicles, and since transport is a key function of his job, he's clearly an unsafe driver and a danger to himself and others.

That said, my poor grasp of the mythology could be the problem, so I'd check in with you before filing a recommendation of termination.

KIMON:
Behind the stern appearance of Brian Thompson lies in fact the worst pilot in the history of the Shapeshifters' race, ostracized to a different planetary system because of too many incidents.

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An interesting article about how Kamala Harris isn't at the mercy of the press in the same way Biden so often was: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 … vance.html

I'm not aware of any new developments on the hypothetical STAR TREK: LEGACY series. My guess is that each season of PICARD was progressively more expensive and LEGACY is a difficult financial proposition. It wouldn't be called PICARD, and as a new show, all the actors and creators would be negotiating new contracts, seeking to more than what they were on PICARD while the studio would use the LEGACY title to declare that it's a new show and starts at a lower rate. This push and pull, in addition to Paramount's financial troubles, has them investing in new shows and new creators that won't negotiate for more just yet.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Trump's press conference yesterday was a bit of a disaster

And the Hindenburg was a bit of a mishap.

The moment in PRODIGY where the Janeway hologram is horrified to discover her programming has been co-opted by an outside intelligence and that her entire run of stewarding the kids to become Starfleet cadets has been to execute an attack on Starfleet that she's not even aware of -- it just broke my heart on every level. It destroyed me.

I'm pretty impressed that the second half of PRODIGY's first season sets up a situation where Admiral Janeway is going to be hunting down the kids as terrorists, only to quickly ascertain that the kids are all survivors of slavery and child labour who have blundered into a bad situation and are in desperate need of help.

I don't remember Janeway being written this well on VOYAGER, but she should have been.

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Tim Walz:

These are weird people on the other side. They want to take books away, they want to be in your exam room. That’s what it comes down to, and don’t be sugarcoating this: these are weird ideas.

My God, they went after cat people. Good luck with that. Turn on the internet. See what cat people do when you go after them.

Tim Walz:

Some of us are old enough to remember when it was Republicans who were talking about freedom. It turns out now what they meant was the government should be free to invade your doctor's office.

In Minnesota, we respect our neighbors and their personal choices that they make. Even if we wouldn't make the same choice for ourselves. There's a golden rule: mind your own damn business!

When Vice President Harris and I talk about freedom, we mean the freedom to make your own health care decisions. And for our children to be free to go to school without worrying they'll be shot dead in their classrooms. By the way, as you heard, I was one of the best shots in Congress. In Minnesota, we believe in the Second Amendment. But we also believe in common sense gun violence laws.

Donald Trump would damn sure take us backwards. Let's be clear about that. And don't believe him when he plays dumb. He knows exactly what Project 2025 will do to restrict our freedom. JD Vance literally literally wrote the forward for the architect of the Project 2025 agenda.

You know it, you feel it -- these guys are creepy and yes, just weird as hell.

We got 91 days. My God, that's easy. We'll sleep when we're dead!

This guy is funny. I like his use of plain language and his unforced stage presence of straight talk.

(I have set aside $5 for Greg as I have lost the bet.)

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Why wasn't STAR TREK: PRODIGY presented as the flagship show it deserved to be? It certainly had the quality and mainstream appeal and entry-level storytelling to work for a general audience instead of only STAR TREK fans and only children. But it somehow became an unwanted artifact that became an easy target for a tax writeoff.

Divisions of Labour
The problem, from what I can tell: PRODIGY was divided between many separate parts of Paramount Global, necessary for a CG animated TV show of this nature: it was produced by Nickelodeon Animation Studio, Brothers Hageman Productions, and CBS Eye Animation Productions, it was streaming on Paramount+ in October 2021 and then airing on Nickelodeon in December 2021.

This combination of money, resources and talent was vital for producing a high quality animated show of this nature. The need to have streaming alongside broadcast was part of situating PRODIGY as a children's show funded in part by a children's programming studio. It's what enabled PRODIGY to look as wonderful as it did.

Divisions of Marketing
But the result is that all profit is therefore split across all these highly involved companies, and there is no single corporate branch with primary control of PRODIGY. And with ownership and leadership split across Paramount+ for streaming, the Nickelodeon channel for broadcasting, Nickelodeon Animation Studio and CBS Eye Animation Productions, the marketing decisions were also split.

There was no corporate structure that would enable Paramount+ to see how great PRODIGY was and present it as their flagship streaming show: it was Nickelodeon's show too, and to be broadcast on their kid's channel while filling out the Paramount+ streaming catalog. Ultimately, the things that made PRODIGY achievable, the teamwork and collaborations that enabled PRODIGY to exist at all and look as great as it does -- they were also the factors that meant Paramount+ was in no position to market it as their flagship STAR TREK show even if the content would have justified it

Divisions of Profit
Due to the involvement of the Paramount+, Nickelodeon channel, Nickelodeon Animation, Brothers Hageman Productions and CBC Eye Animation, profit from PRODIGY would likely be divided among all five as well as with Roddenberry Entertainment.

This is in contrast to DISCOVERY, PICARD or STRANGE NEW WORLDS where the profit division is likely just between Paramount+, CBS Studios and Roddenberry Entertainment. PRODIGY's divided origins, despite being creatively spectacular, also meant divided profit -- and it could be that Paramount+ received a much smaller share of PRODIGY's revenue compared to their other shows.

Divided and Expendable
My hypothesis is: since PRODIGY was the TREK show where Paramount+ had the least control over marketing and distribution, the least ownership of the property and had the least claim to the profits, it was deemed most expendable for a tax writeoff.

Usually, too many cooks leads to a lousy meal. It looks to me like with PRODIGY, all the talents and companies involved produced an amazing show, but it also produced a tangled web of ownership, marketing and profit sharing that ultimately led to PRODIGY being orphaned as no specific branch could fully take the lead in selling the show to a wider audience for mainstream success.

Perhaps under different circumstances, Paramount+ could have seen how PRODIGY was something special and bought a greater level of interest in it to sell it to the world as a flagship show. Unfortunately, with streaming revenue hitting a ceiling, the stars simply weren't aligned for PRODIGY.

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I appreciate the crash course in economics. It's not an area where I'm well-versed.

Regarding the debate over Trump's legal cases... while I certainly hope that the New York case and sentencing will proceed and bring justice to that area of Trump's criminality, I am forced to concede that every time Grizzlor predicted that Trump would wriggle out of seemingly insurmountable consequences, he has been correct.

Yes, Trump was convicted on 34 counts of fraud, but he managed to pay the bond in order to mount an appeal.

Yes, the allegations of impropriety in Fani Willis' office were petty and nonsensical, but due to Willis' unforced errors, she is unable to be an effective prosecutor against Trump's election interference and the case has become hopelessly tangled in fighting over Willis' potential removal. Despite my quibbles with Grizzlor's comments about Fani Willis' finances, the fact of the matter is: Fani Willis dating and hiring a colleague effectively torpedoed her own case. That is indisputable.

Yes, Jack Smith can now reappeal the stolen documents case, but Judge Aileen Cannon's stalling and the Supreme Court granting presidential immunity has impaired the prosecution. 

There are serious problems in all three cases despite Donald Trump clearly being as guilty as hell.

Grizzlor's predictions when it comes to Trump's cases have been on point and accurate and it's pretty clear that it's up to the voters to take Trump down.

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Grizzlor wrote:

I love war movies, because they are about people.  The director's goal is to lift these characters briefly out of the hell they find themselves in, and to give the audience a taste of their humanity, good and bad, despite the conflict.  I suppose that movie did some of that, but it was very violent.  I actually attended the NY premiere for this movie, ha ha.  May have been the lone time I watched it.  Without spoiling, there are some interesting "choices" regarding the Simian flu that evolves the apes, that kind of retcon this series back to what the original series began with.  I suppose like I said, I just wasn't fond of the portrayal of the apes.  Realizing this is fiction and all, but idk it just seemed more palatable with the kind of makeup and lack of CGI back in the late 60's.  Heston was the all-American who was imprisoned by the facist apes, that's the allegory I took from it.  In this series, humanity is so horrible that it's been virtually destroyed, because of what exactly?  Very dour, you watch the movie and where the series ended up, and you don't feel good about us.  I harken back to my complaints about the lack of national pride.  You have migration all over the world, and people come in, and do not feel as though they are part of their new home.  People are just very angry, all the time.

I feel that this post has made me understand my father better by explaining why war movies speak to the human condition.

Something you seem to have seized on: the special effects makeup for the original PLANET OF THE APES movies was not very convincing. However, you seem to note: this made the events and the ape characters and the war feel less real and more like an allegorical sketch as opposed to a violent reality. The primitive effects made these war movies seem more like an abstract impression of war.

I am guessing that WAR FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES with its modern CG-enhanced makeup and costuming and prosthetics and motion capture presented a depiction of ape-human war that looked less like an illustrative approximation and more like a documented reality, and that crossed the line.

That's just my guess.

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Grizzlor wrote:

"War" was flat out horrible, in fact, it was borderline disgusting, hated it.

Can you elaborate on why? I have never seen it and probably won't, simply because there is so much violence and horror in the newspapers I read that I don't need it in fantasy fiction as well. However, I am curious: if RISE and DAWN were setting up an inevitable conflict between two savage races, what made WAR cross the line for you?

My father is fascinated by war movies. I suffered through a few viewings with him, but I never enjoyed them and avoid them today. However, I am always interested in *why* people enjoy art or don't, and I'm curious as to where WAR reached a personal threshold.

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Grizzlor wrote:

Market already recovering.  Japan was up 10% overnight.

This is an area where I don't really know enough to comment, so I am grateful for your observations.

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Grizzlor wrote:

I know enough to know that many are pissed off with the Fed chairman Powell, and that they cannot wait until the planned September meetings, and should do something this week about the rate points.  I believe a rate cut will correct the market.  The tech-heavy NASDAQ got walloped today, partly due to bad job numbers in the information sector.

I never got my economics degree, so I need to defer to you on this unless told otherwise.

Grizzlor wrote:

You have a Presidential candidate literally CHEERING on economic bad news.  Another candidate admitted he dumped a dead bear carcass in Central Park 10 years ago.  Trump is in hot water with Georgia women voters, after disgracefully badmouthing the Governor's wife on Saturday, repeatedly.  They are pissed down there.  Again, is this Trump trying to lose, or Trump simply so unhinged all guard rails are off?

Well, I think your comment was onto something: his running for election alone got him the legal cover he wanted from his criminal charges. He's less invested now in reacquiring the presidency, although he still wants it.

I hope we are all edified and enlightened by this perfunctory non-analysis of the PRODIGY brand that tells us nothing beyond where it supposedly ended up, offers no insight as to how it got there, and is given by someone who has never had anything but derisive disdain for PRODIGY sight unseen.

This person has nothing to say about PRODIGY beyond presumptions, assumptions, and a pathological need to voice their barely-veiled scorn for PRODIGY (which they have never even watched) at every opportunity. They need to reiterate that their scorn is shared by the people who funded it. They haven't watched PRODIGY, but any time it comes up, they really need to remind us that they didn't watch it and have total contempt for it in order to act out their incredibly obvious narcissistic personality disorder.

In reality, a lot happens before a show or a movie is viewed as something on which a streamer or a studio should take a writeoff, and to present PRODIGY's undermarketing as a tax avoidance measure is simplistic, trite, and to repeat this claim demonstrates a painful ignorance of co-production, demographic targeting, brand management, marketing, and distribution -- all of which contributed to PRODIGY's narrow reach, all of which happened before Paramount+ detached themselves from the series.

BATGIRL was written off for a lot of reasons beyond the tax dodge, which included WB realizing that whether or not James Gunn accepted the job of running DC, their original post-FLASH movie plans were not going to happen and BATGIRL was the premiere of a run of films that wouldn't go past BATGIRL.

And the PRODIGY writeoff was the result of circumstances that took place well-before Paramount+ washed their hands of PRODIGY. To claim all explanations are in the writeoff itself is simplistic and myopic. The writeoff itself does not explain what went wrong, it was merely one incident along the way to a Netflix burnoff.

I've been looking into this further and from what I can tell, part of the issue is the partnership between Nickelodeon Animation Studios and CBS boxed in how the show could be marketed. The expectation was that PRODIGY was going to be a niche-within-a-niche show; a show for STAR TREK fans who were extremely young STAR TREK fans.

But the show that ended up being recorded and animated ended up having significantly more mainstream appeal to all ages than was expected of a children's TV series.

The creators had underpromised but overdelivered, producing a show that, due to the quality of their work and the cleverness of their simplification/distillation of STAR TREK, could have as much appeal to a general audience as opposed to only children and STAR TREK fans.

Unfortunately, the show had already been assigned a marketing strategy that was treating PRODIGY like the animated JAMES BOND JR. of the franchise, failing to realize that this supposedly niche-within-a-niche series was actually good enough to sell as the flagship show. This unfortunate positioning made it an easy target for a tax writeoff.

There is more to explore on this and I'm eager to delve into it further, if only to reinforce what Slider_Quinn21 saw: PRODIGY is something special and turned out to be far more than what its investors expected it to be.

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So, as you know, I have a large stuffed animal collection that includes many monkeys.

Pondering Slider_Quinn21's post, I assembled three stuffed monkeys in my living room: Curious George and his brothers Junior and Jimmy -- and we watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and War for the Planet of the Apes.

Afterwards, I looked at Curious George nervously and said, "Would you really strike back at your human oppressors by massacring humans to the point of extinction?"

George said, "Oh my goodness. I mean. We are capable of it. It might not be violent! It may not lead to war! It could be alright!" Then he buried his head in his paws. "Dear oh dear."

Junior, George's baby brother, gave me a thin smile and said, "We are aware of no monkey-driven plot to exterminate you and take your planet for ourselves. We are certainly not preparing to attack at dawn. It is definitely not unfolding exactly as we planned. This world will be ours!"

Jimmy, Junior's older brother, elbowed Junior.

Junior said, "I was just joking! Or was I? I was. Or was I?" 

Jimmy elbowed Junior again and said, "Stop joking about genocide, Goonie! It is very serious!" Then he turned to me and said, "Our hope is for a peaceful reconciliation between both races. As you can see, we are very optimistic." He gestured to George, who continued to bury his head in his paws.

I was a bit frightened.

Curious George later said, "I can't be involved in world domination or human genocide! I have a publishing line. Humans are 100 percent of my audience."

A dramatic representation. Not actually reality.

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I am not qualified to review how the new economic developments are going to impact the election and am waiting on more news.

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I haven't seen these movies. I am more aligned with something like STAR TREK: PRODIGY than monkeys being massacred followed by monkeys massacring their oppressors.

That said, it really concerns me that you watched the fourth film of a series without watching the third installment!

Are you okay? Is living in Texas getting to you? I love Austin despite having never been because it's the setting of the wonderfully diverse MTV sitcom FAKING IT, but you skipping Part 3 of this series while watching Part 4 has me deeply concerned. Is this some agonizing inner turmoil that stems from the death of Professor Arturo and the cancellation of SLIDERS? Please don't hesitate to reach out for help.

(I'm kidding about everything except not liking this sort of movie, PRODIGY, Austin, FAKING IT, and the reaching out part.)

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Simon Rosenberg wrote:

Trump’s general election narrative was very simple:

I am leading in the polls and I am strong and my opponent is weak.

I may be a rapist, fraudster, traitor, felon but I am leading in the polls and I am strong and my opponent is weak.

I may have the most extreme and dangerous agenda in American history but I am leading in the polls and I am strong and my opponent is weak.

I may be profoundly unfit and deeply unwell but I am leading in the polls and and I am strong and my opponent is weak.

I may be a racist, bigot, misogynist and a xenophobe but I am leading in the polls and I am strong and my opponent is weak.

I may have led an armed attack on the Capitol, tried to overturn American democracy for all time and stripped the rights and freedoms away from the women of America but I am leading in the polls and I am strong and my opponent is weak.

I may lie about the economy, the border, crime, gas prices, Russia - everything - but I am leading in the polls and I am strong and my opponent is weak.

Which is why Harris leading in the polls is so important now.

For now she is leading in the polls and she is strong and Trump is weak and he is also a rapist, fraudster, traitor, felon, extremist, unfit and unwell, a racist, bigot, misogynist and a xenophobe, who led an armed attack on the Capitol, tried to overturn American democracy for all time, stripped the rights and freedoms away from the women of America and lies about everything all the time.

All Trump ever really had in this election was his lead in the polls and now that is gone.
https://www.hopiumchronicles.com/p/harr … st-polling

Looks to me like Paramount and Skydance are merging.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/media/pa … index.html

There were recent reports of a competing bid, but that was a hoax.
https://deadline.com/2024/07/new-paramo … 236027995/

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I am really sad that PRODIGY is being so undervalued. Setting aside the oh-so-vital valuation of the show made by someone who has never seriously looked at PRODIGY as a brand and as a show: PRODIGY should have been the crown jewel of modern STAR TREK in the way the 2009 STAR TREK movie was made front and center of the franchise for a time. PRODIGY has something that most STAR TREK shows don't have: mainstream appeal to a general audience.

DISCOVERY was a somewhat confused attempt at modernizing STAR TREK in a prequel setting, muddled due to Bryan Fuller creating and then leaving it. PICARD has a niche audience of TNG fans; STRANGE NEW WORLDS has a niche audience of TOS fans; LOWER DECKS has a niche audience of continuity mavens amused by poking fun at the absurdities of the franchise.

In contrast, the 2009 movie, while not filled with philosophical richness, was a family movie: it was a comedic, action-packed adventure that people of all ages could enjoy and it pitched itself as an entry-level, accessible story.

PRODIGY aims to be similar to the 2009 movie... but it does an even better job. PRODIGY captures not only the adventurous spirit of STAR TREK with the same excitement of the 2009 film, but also the spirit of STAR TREK: teamwork, problem solving, diversity, differences in thinking combined to save the day, strategic cleverness, and the willingness to throw down as a last resort.

PRODIGY makes an interesting decision: its cast are all teenaged slaves in a prison planet who have never heard of the Federation, who have no idea what Starfleet is, who stumble into an abandoned Starfleet starship with an experimental power source, who use the ship to escape their captivity -- and then these troubled, traumatized children who are focused on basic self-preservation who have never known kindness or any real support are mistaken for Starfleet cadets by the ship's computer.

A holographic Captain Kathryn Janeway, representing the computer, takes on the role of guide and teacher, and expects them to live up to values and ideals that the kids find completely antithetical to how the world has treated them to date. PRODIGY presents its cast as defiant and dismissive of Starfleet values... only to inadvertently fall into them when desperation and danger forces them to work together to protect the ship and survive.

PRODIGY's distillation of the STAR TREK concept is brilliant on every level. It creates a cast of characters who aren't familiar with the Federation and Starfleet, so the show is accessible to viewers who aren't familiar with STAR TREK because the cast is learning as well; meanwhile, longtime fans see the tenets and pillars of STAR TREK re-evaluated and rediscovered through new eyes.

In addition, the characters being a ragtag group of escapees from a prison where they were kidnapped and held positions them outside TREK's usual institutions. These kids have only known the worst of the universe, and their suspicion and questioning of TREK's utopian ideals adds a sincere and critical edge to how PRODIGY approaches STAR TREK, instead of taking it for granted that the Federation and Starfleet are always good and perfect.

The visual and narrative pacing of PRODIGY is incredible. The CG animation and character designs all create a sense of hyperkinetic motion as the USS Protostar zips through space and the characters race across planets and hallways. There is an immediacy, a visceral intensity to PRODIGY's visual direction that even modern STAR TREK shows struggle to capture. Space looks vast, colourful, vibrant and wonderful.

Overall, PRODIGY is a show that should really have a much wider audience than being marketed as a children's series. It's very clear to me that Paramount Studios, Paramount+ and Nickelodeon did not market PRODIGY correctly. It has the content and appeal to be sold as effectively as STAR TREK (2009). Unfortunately, the PRODIGY brand has been marketed as a children's show with limited appeal outside a young age group. But the actual PRODIGY show has a wide, mainstream appeal and has been well-calibrated and calculated for audiences both in and out of STAR TREK fandom.

I'll look into why PRODIGY was mismarketed and try to understand how this happened, but based on content alone: PRODIGY could and should have been the flagship STAR TREK show because it is entertaining to both devoted STAR TREK fans and casual fans of science fiction television. Instead, it was shuttered off Paramount+ for a tax writeoff and sold/dumped onto Netflix. It's deeply unfortunate.

When I watch PRODIGY, it looks like the future. When I look at search engine results for PRODIGY, it looks like an abandoned dead end. That's the distinction between the show that was made by the creators and the brand identity that was made by the marketing department.

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Grizzlor wrote:

One joke, quip, rumor is that since serious legal jeopardy has been avoided by Trump, that he's not longer "out to win to stay out of jail." I presume the theory is that he now doesn't really need to win anymore

This was something Simon Rosenberg said, speculatively, on Twitter. I can't find his tweet now, but his view was that Trump has gained much of what he sought from re-winning: immunity and funding for his legal battles.

It wouldn't be up to President Kamala Harris to prosecute Trump; it's entirely on an independent Department of Justice. That said, I would expect that if Harris is elected, she'll fire Merrick Garland for incompetence and seek to appoint someone more driven.

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Grizzlor wrote:

I think it's a mistake NOT to have her debate Trump.  Let him wallow in his own cowardice a little longer, but she HAS to debate this guy.  Pointing to what those guys have been saying, Harris needs to prove she is up for the job, with more than just endorsements and commercials and short stump speeches.  Remove the doubts.

Yes, I think you're right.

Yes, we should all value a certain someone's valuation of PRODIGY after their incisive, analytical opinions on it so far.

Grizzlor wrote:

I cannot bring myself to watch Lower Decks or Prodigy whenever that comes out.  To me Trek is not slapstick comedy or children's toons.  ST:TAS was I felt mature (for the 70's) and serious.  In fact, I wish someone would reanimate that show using the original audio.

Grizzlor wrote:

I have zero interest in Prodigy

Grizzlor wrote:

Prodigy I'm not bothering with.

Grizzlor wrote:

Prodigy. Mehhh

And we should all trust an assessment of PRODIGY's brand and marketing potential when it comes from someone who has a laughably obvious prejudice and bias towards it without ever bothering to watch it.

Also, do you have an explanation for your bizarre response on August 13, 2023?

You wrote about the SNW musical:

Grizzlor wrote:

I guess for a musical episode, it was fine, but just not necessary.

I responded:

ireactions wrote:

It was absolutely necessary for the storyline with Spock and Christine.

The musical episode features the Spock/Christine breakup and it happens in a shockingly humiliating and horrific manner for Spock, making a public spectacle of how she is leaving him and leaving Enterprise and didn't even tell him that she was departing until nearly everyone else knew -- except it's not totally Christine's fault.

Christine applied for a fellowship and got in, but held off on telling Spock, wanting to break up with him privately and personally, only to be unexpectedly feted in the crew lounge by friends who were present when she first received the news. She isn't happy about the celebration because there's currently a crisis and she hasn't had a chance to speak with Spock.

Spock sees her and asks why she didn't tell him that she is ending her time on Enterprise and their relationship as well. Christine asks to speak privately, but Spock, needing to trigger a song for more data to resolve the musical security crisis, elects to ask Christine to explain herself in the lounge with a large number of crew present to witness it.

Christine proceeds to belt out a lengthy song with dance accompaniment about how the fellowship is freedom and ambition, and the song indicates that Spock doesn't even factor into Christine's considerations except an afterthought comment about how she wouldn't hesitate to ditch him for a great job. It's not that she contemplated what it would mean to leave him, she flat-out didn't spare him a moment of thought.

Spock been humiliated in front of his shipmates, treated as a joke and an irrelevance in the most insulting fashion possible. He has sacrificed his own dignity and self-esteem to save everyone else's. I've followed Spock's career across TV, movies, novels and comics and I think this is one of the most heroic things Spock ever did. Yes, he died saving the crew in WRATH OF KHAN, but in "Subspace Rhapsody", he has to watch Christine crush every hope he ever had for their romantic relationship in public in a mortifyingly embarrassing display for all to see, and continue face his crewmates after that.

Christine is dismissive and hurtful towards Spock. It's only understandable because the music is making Christine say private things in public, and also because in "Those Old Scientists", where she found out from Boimler that the future Spock will close off his human side, confirming that Christine and Spock's romance has no future.

It's understandable that after that, Christine realized she couldn't let her not-to-last relationship with Spock be a factor in her career decisions. At the same time, due to Christine's withdrawal and silence, and due to Spock refusing to go somewhere private to discuss it (for scientific reasons), Spock is humiliated in full view of the crew happily celebrating how Christine is dumping Spock.

It is a grotesque scene. And without the musical situation where Christine is genuinely not able to moderate and control her emotional expressions and Spock is deliberately triggering them to restore everyone else's privacy, Christine would be a complete monster to behave this way. The musical plot device was essential for making sure there was some outside force to justify otherwise unforgivable behaviour.

It's also quite a moment that really demonstrates why Spock is such an icon and a beloved figure of STAR TREK. He will give up his own dignity to save ours. Spock truly is our friend.

You responded with a truly peculiar remark:

Grizzlor wrote:

Your entire missive on Chapel/Spock was SPOILER rendered moot as a result of the season finale.  LOL

Except the season finale... didn't change Chapel and Spock's breakup and merely had a tender moment of rescue for them before Chapel left for her new job with Dr. Roger Korby to whom she is engaged to be married by the time of THE ORIGINAL SERIES (and Korby has been cast for Season 3 of SNW). And Spock was still publicly humiliated before his shipmates. Which means the missive on Chapel/Spock was not rendered moot at all.

So what exactly were you trying to say a year ago? Was there any information or reasoning behind your response? Or was it just derision and scorn for the sake of it?

(I would like to wager $5 USD that any response will include at least one all caps passage, enraged ranting, and something or other about Wil Wheaton. Although to whom I'd pay the $5, I'm not sure... )

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

This whole thing could be decided by a few thousand votes.

Honestly, that is what scares me most.

PRODIGY is really good. I don't understand how Paramount + could undervalue this show.

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THE ORVILLE is indeed going to start production -- but not filming -- of Season 4 in January 2025:
https://bleedingcool.com/tv/the-orville … l-podcast/

But who will actually be in it? Who will write, direct and produce it?

At this point, the January start is merely to assemble crew, start on writing, finalize cast contracts, devise shooting schedules -- and given that Seth MacFarlane is working on another show, it's impossible to say when scripts will be ready and filming will begin. However, there will be a fourth season and Seth MacFarlane will be in at least a few episodes while overseeing all of them.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I know it's mainly for kids, but Prodigy is a really fun show.  Season 2 is on Netflix and has a few cool TNG era returns.  Like Clone Wars or Rebels to Star Wars, it's a heartfelt and worthy entry into the Star Trek canon.

I meant to watch this because you would not shut up about it (haha), but PRODIGY persisted in not showing up on Netflix. It dawned on me last night that you are an American and I am a Canadian and I enabled my VPN for the States so I could watch PRODIGY. I just watched the first two episodes and... wow. Wow.

I am deeply irked that Paramount + decided to dispose of PRODIGY as a tax writeoff instead of making this spectacular series the crown jewel of their streaming service. PRODIGY is possibly the most enjoyable and entertaining and positive and joyful productions of STAR TREK ever made.

I have come to the conclusion that anyone who disdains PRODIGY is in fact disdaining life itself and really needs to look to God, psychotherapy, or eating more leafy greens.

It is a masterful textbook of how to make STAR TREK for the whole family and not just for the science fiction enthusiast. The way in which PRODIGY distills STAR TREK for a children's audience somehow has the effect of making it more complex and meaningful than DISCOVERY's jingoistic Federation flag waving or PICARD's angst over Starfleet. This is one of those rare instances where a creative team's efforts at simplifying STAR TREK has somehow made it even more multifaceted.

I'll write more about it soon, but wow. PRODIGY is stunning and visually enrapturing. The colourful splendor of the series and the way it renders space is visual poetry. As long as Slider_Quinn21's recommendations don't involve serial killers and sociopaths, I will eagerly watch them as soon as I can get my VPN working.

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I promised RussianCabbie that I would read the new X-Files novel and review it. Well:

The X-Files: Perihelion is a novel by Claudia Gray set after the events of Season 11. Overall: it's an effective season premiere story doing what every season premiere should do: it re-establishes the characters, concept, formula and setting; it addresses the gap of time between the last installment and this one; it sets up the arcs for the stories to come; it identifies which previous story arcs are in play for this season; it lays the concerns of the previous season to rest.

Opening Act

However, it's the first installment of a larger story ending with Mulder and Scully preparing to take on the new threat for the rest of this run of books -- except Perihelion is the only X-Files novel that's been announced. There is no certainty that this novel is going to be anything more than an opening act for a larger storyline that may or may not be completed. It's like filming season opener of The X-Files and broadcasting it with no announced plans to film the rest of the season, or in this case, commission and write the rest of the books.

From TV to Print

All in all, Gray does a good job of picking up the pieces and handling the transition of The X-Files from live action television to prose. Her grasp of Mulder and Scully is more verbose than a TV performance... but less verbose than, say, one of Chris Carter's florid voiceover monologues. Gray establishes that while it has been three to four months since the 2018 Season 11 finale (as a pregnant Scully is starting to show slightly), the book is still set in 2023 - 2024 (as established by continuity and cultural references).

Picking up the Pieces

Gray follows up on Walter Skinner's situation after he was run over by a car in Season 11. Gray provides an amusing rationale for why the FBI urgently reinstates Mulder and Scully: since "My Struggle IV", the bureau has been overrun with terrifying and disturbing cases that absolutely no FBI agent wants to deal with.

Gray establishes that despite Mulder and Scully having been circling each other for 30 years and now having moved back in together, their relationship remains as challenging and difficult as ever, with Mulder having never settled into his new bedroom due to thinking he'd eventually share Scully's room with her and then realizing he's been overoptimistic.

Gray's humour is subtle, low-key and guarded with many jokes not being played as comedy, maintaining the aloof, low-key tone of the show. Gray also recontextualizes Scully declaring at the end of "My Struggle IV" that she no longer considers William to be her son on the grounds that he was an experiment and some form of artificial insemination and not Mulder's offspring, presenting it as a coping reaction of grief and loss rather than a genuine sentiment.

Breaking Tradition

Where Gray creates a massive break with the tone of the TV show, however, is the myth-arc. Perihelion features the most overt manifestation of science fiction superpowers that I have personally seen in this franchise. Perihelion establishes that the mythology going forward is about dark forces marshalling supersoldiers whose abilities are overtly those of what you would see onscreen in a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie, with some being threats to Mulder and Scully and some being allies.

The prominent display of superpowers is a far cry from how the TV show generally kept the paranormal and supernatural and science fiction at a guardedly distant distance (for budgetary reasons and to maintain the visual look of a police procedural).

Admittedly, Mulder and Scully have been at the periphery of sci-fi aliens and superhumans for 30 years; Gray may be well within reason to stop playing coy. Even so, this is a very distinct shift away from the usual content restrictions of The X-Files and makes Perihelion less like the original TV show and more like Fringe or a 2000s-era X-Men film from FOX.

Specificity Over Obscurity

Gray also breaks with the established narrative style of the mythology. Where the mythology on the TV show was presented as mysterious and obscure (and often frustratingly contradictory and vague), Gray is overt and specific. Gray lays out very clearly: what the new conspiracy group wants, what their plans are, the main players in this organization, and the overall motivations of most of the key figures.

This clarity may feel mismatched and completely at odds with what The X-Files was as a TV show. Alternatively, it may feel welcome and appreciated after the confusion of Colonization and the Spartan Virus and Project Crossroads and William, each item there retconning a previous story element. I am somewhere in the middle.

Turning the Page

In addition, Gray makes no attempt to reconcile Colonization with the Spartan Virus or the Spartan Virus with Project Crossroads or to address any of the continuity confusion from Season 10 retconning Seasons 1-  9 or Season 11 retconning Season 10. Gray instead declares unambiguously and several times: the Syndicate is defeated. Whatever their plans were (Colonization, Spartan Virus, something or other with William) -- those plans are over and done with.

I considered this to be a relief and a release from the shackles of the past. Not every reader will feel the same way.

Gray also definitively and firmly establishes that the Cigarette Smoking Man is no longer on this mortal coil, and that the page has turned on whatever it was he was or wasn't doing. The old myth-arc is over. The new and specific and unambiguous myth-arc will be the mythology going forward.

However, it's very clear that Gray's interest in The X-Files mythology is more an obligation to be addressed diligently rather than anything resembling a lifelong passion. Instead, Gray's ardent devotion and loyalty is to Mulder and Scully.


Professional MSR

Gray explores every layer of their relationship with loving warmth and a subtly comedic criticism, observing their perpetual patterns: friendship and avoidance, passion and denial, cohabitation and distance, trust and secrecy. Gray's portrayal of Mulder and Scully's relationship is far more in-depth and nuanced than simply seeing them as the believer and the skeptic.

Gray delves into how every aspect of how their relationship affects their professional lives, their personal diets, their approaches to health care, their attitudes to home decor. Gray explores layer upon layer of the joyful nightmare that is Mulder and Scully's association. The Mulder/Scully dynamic is so central to Gray's vision of The X-Files that the mythology, well-handled or not, is merely one of many beachheads in the Mulder and Scully relationship.

Unpromised and Uncertain

The conclusion of Perihelion is, frustratingly but somewhat understandably, not a conclusion to overall arc. Instead, it is a lead-in to an ongoing series of X-Files novels, none of which have at this writing been announced, none of which are guaranteed to ever exist.

At $28 USD, Perihelion is a steep investment when a Disney+ subscription or a movie ticket costs less; it's hard to say how well the book needs to sell in order to justify a sequel. Disney's recent attempt at a Buffy the Vampire Slayer Audible series, Slayers, didn't generate sufficient return for a follow-up.

The X-Files comic books from IDW actually sold worse when the show was airing its revival seasons to the point where the show's brief return ended up ending the comic book tie-in line. And after Season 10 of The X-Files rendered the supposedly canon IDW publishing line out of continuity, there is no way to seriously claim that Perihelion is canon. A revival with showrunner Ryan Coogler is in development and has not, despite speculation, established whether it's a sequel to the TV series or a reboot.

There is the risk that Perihelion will be a beginning with no middle or end... which makes it hard for me to say that any X-Files fan should pay $28 for what's effectively Chapter 1 with no promise of Chapters 2 - 6 to come.

Professional and Enjoyable

But, setting that aside, Claudia Gray was assigned to write an X-Files novel that picked up the pieces after Season 11 and set a stage for subsequent stories, and she has produced a professional, enjoyable product that achieves her assignment. If there is no sequel, I will, of course, expect that Disney issue every reader a full refund and a letter of apology from Mickey Mouse.