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What does a Trump surrender look like? Simon Rosenberg says it looks like this:

He is doing about one third the number of rallies he did in 2016 and his crowds are thin. He is now spending a lot of his time hawking watches, coins, sneakers, a fraudulent media company, Bibles, books, crypto to his supporters, diverting money from his campaign to line his pockets, apparently preparing for his life after his nine years of grifting off politics ends in a few months.

None of this money is going into the campaign. It is going to him.

My bottom line right now is that the election is close but things have been getting better for us since the debate. We are ahead in the national popular vote and we are closer to 270 than Trump. Our continued strength in MI, PA, WI is a big problem for them, as is the epic Robinson meltdown in NC and the blue dot in Nebraska. While there have been some bumpy polls in AZ, we’ve had good ones too (above). Essentially what the polls show us today is that we can win the election. It is an opportunity. With huge advantages in money, volunteers/field, enthusiasm and crowd sizes (really important) we should be able to close stronger than them. We just have more capacity right now to move the election towards us than they do to them.

Weeks and weeks of us beating them on paid media, generating far more compelling organic social content (vs. their ongoing ugliness) and reaching more voters on the ground is going to take its toll on them. It is possible that some of that good polling we saw this week is evidence of our superior campaign starting to move the needle as voters start to really check in. We are just touching more people in more powerful ways than they are, and over time that is really going to matter. We are winning this election right now my friends. Now, together, we have to do the work to make sure we win it.

https://www.hopiumchronicles.com/p/been … r-the-blue

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Simon Rosenberg says The New York Times polls are completely unreliable and little more than outliers. He says he will not spend any more time taking them apart.

The NYT poll is just one poll among many, and should not dictate our understanding of the race or current trends, nor am I going to any more spend dissecting this new data. I and we have better things to do. We have an election to go win.

https://www.hopiumchronicles.com/p/winn … -gop-keeps

I really hope I don't come to regret sharing so much Simon Rosenberg stuff. Just because he says things in a fact-oriented fashion and is saying what I want to hear doesn't mean he's right. I can only be cautiously optimistic.

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One of the most derided aspects of Smallville: Jor-El. The character makes no sense. Jor-El's harsh and threatening attitude to Clark later shifts towards Jor-El being a benign father like in other Superman adaptations, and then reverts and then ricochets back and forth. Jor-El's nonsensical characterization from 2003 - 2011, while obnoxiously incoherent, is a strangely accurate and prescient depiction of current problems and challenges in artificial intelligence.

Jor-El is first introduced at the end of Season 2 and explicitly identified as a computer program, a representation of the real Jor-El, carrying  "his memory and his will", carrying out the wishes of Clark's deceased biological father. From the start, this artificial intelligence version of Jor-El is disturbing.

Translation Errors

The Jor-El AI first imprints Krpytonian language into Clark's brain and enables Clark to read Jor-El's first message. It says: "On this third planet from this star Sol, you will be a god among men. They are a flawed race. Rule them with strength, my son. That is where your greatness lies."

Clark is horrified, exclaiming to his adoptive father, Jonathan Kent, "I think I was sent here to conquer. What kind of planet am I from!?"

This first message is particularly odd in light of later episodes where Jor-El's plans for Clark are fully revealed: Jor-El's goal is for Clark to "protect Earth" and humanity from the Kryptonian fascist General Zod, that Clark's destiny is to serve as a "beacon" whose "example" of heroism will "guide" humanity.

Furthermore, this message is a dark inversion on the classic Superman film where Marlon Brando's Jor-El calls humanity a race with tremendous "potential for good".

AI Lacks Cultural and Situational Nuance

In a fictional context, it's like the AI's language module, imprinted to Clark, has made a translation error from Kryptonian to English, conflating "god" with "beacon", "rule" with "guide", "strength" with "example" "flawed race" with "potential for good", leading to a message translated without nuance or awareness of human/Kryptonian cultural distinctions.

In reality, the writers were seeding the idea that the AI Jor-El was an impostor; the voice of Terence Stamp (the evil Zod of the classic Superman films) implied as much. The writers ultimately stuck with this version of Jor-El, creating an inconsistency. And yet, this inconsistency reflects real world AI problems of 2022 - 2024 era AI.

Smallville's Kryptonians, shown in flashback, are not colonizers or conquerors, but isolationists. Kryptonians do, however, believe in dominance -- not of sentient life, but of their own planetary ecosystems: terraforming, artificial weather, resource management, etc.. In addition, Kryptonians also refer to their sun, Rao as a god - -except in Kryptonian culture, the sun is a source of light, warmth, learning and enlightenment. What Kryptonians call a 'god' would in English be a teacher and a friend.

The Jor-El AI has failed to consider these mismatches between Kryptonian-and human language and culture.

Inaccuracy for Complexity

This is extremely an extremely accurate portrayal of how real world AI often struggles with cultural and situational context, semantic errors, linguistic dominance and consistency, creating outputs that are technically correct but contextually incorrect or even nonsensical.

For example, Google Translate can sometimes produce bizarre prophecies from mundane words due to misapplying training data from religious text. At times, "Good morning" in Arabic has been AI-mistranslated into "Attack them" due to homophone and homonym misidentification (similar sounding or spelled words getting confused) and idiomatic confusion (colloquialisms and regional phrasings).

Real AI models are also biased towards English which creates translations that can't accurately depict complex concepts from other languages or and struggle to maintain a consistent tone or perspective.

Given Jor-El's eventual revelations about Clark's destiny to be Earth's hero, the real message was likely: "On this third planet from this star Sol, you will be a beacon to all. They are a race filled with potential for good. Guide them with your example, my son. That is where your destiny lies."

In this case, the Jor-El AI has a bias towards Kryptonian language without nuance for English. The message of human potential needing light and guidance has been mis-translated into a harsh judgement on humanity as "a flawed race". Jor-El's message about stewardship, guidance, and serving as a beacon by example has been warped into a message of authoritarianism while the real message prioritized guidance and inspiration.

Incoherent Behaviour

The Jor-El AI also demonstrates an incoherent attitude towards Clark's human identity and the role Kryptonian culture is to play in Clark's life. In the Season 3 finale and the Season 4 premiere, Jor-El seeks to suppress the Clark Kent personality and implement a new identity in Clark's body, Kal-El, who is wholly compliant with Kryptonian values and Jor-El's orders, seeking to retrieve Kryptonian artifacts scattered across Earth.

The enforced identity is only repelled by Clark's adoptive mother, Martha, using black Kryptonite to restore the real Clark. However, Jor-El later declares that his goal is to train Clark in the use of his powers, no longer attempting to brainwash Clark into compliance. The shift in tactics is not explained. Later, it's declared that all of Jor-El's actions were to position Clark as humanity's protector to prevent an invasion of Earth by the Kryptonian fascist Dru-Zod.

Jor-El's opinions of humanity are also oddly contradictory. Initially, Jor-El declares that Clark must abandon his human connections and all his friends and family. When Clark balks, Jor-El proceeds to inflict pain on Clark by horribly scarring Clark with a flesh-burned brand of the House of El S-shield. But later, Jor-El thanks Martha Kent for raising Clark and serving as a light in Clark's life and declares that Clark's heroism is due to his life in Smallville and his upbringing with Jonathan and Martha.

Throughout the show, Jor-El often punishes Clark whenever Clark prioritizes rescuing humans over Jor-El's missions; he freezes Clark in ice or suppresses Clark's powers. Yet, Jor-El declares Clark's mission is to protect humanity, and when Clark nearly kills a human enemy, Jor-El disowns Clark for almost taking someone's life and declares Clark is no longer his son.

This is nonsensical characterization: two sets of values and tactics that are mutually exclusive. Yet, it's actually a very accurate depictions of 2022 - 2024 era AI problems and challenges: conflicting objectives and contradictory directives.

AI Misalignment

In this case, the Jor-El AI has clearly been programmed with specific modules, each with a specific goal and a set of tactics for training Clark.

These modules include but aren't limited to: a module to defeat General Zod; a module to continue the Kryptonian legacy through Clark; a module to punish Clark; a module to provide physical and tactical learning; a module to support Clark's growth and maturity; an ethical and moral training module to position Clark as a protector of Earth -- many of which are in conflict if not in their goals, then in their methods.

Anti-Zod Module

The anti-Zod module's priority seems to be defeating Zod, the fascist who sought to conquer Krypton and upon defeat chose to destroy the planet. This module views Clark as the means by which the Jor-El AI can assemble and mount defenses against General Zod; it threatens Clark when he has other concerns; it doesn't care about Clark's friends, family or human goals, and has little concern for human life beyond acknowledging that defeating Zod would protect humans.

Legacy Module

The Kryptonian legacy module's priority seems to be for Clark to represent Krypton's otherwise lost history, language and culture. This module focuses on severing Clark's human connections, declaring that his family and friends are to be discarded in favour of Kryptonian missions and Kryptonian rites and rituals.

It seeks to imprint Kryptonian language, knowledge and messaging into Clark's mind and to ultimately remove any importance Clark might place on any life in human society. It also has no interest Clark's human life and identity, instead valuing only Clark's body for an imprinted and compliant Kal-El personality under the AI Jor-El's command.

Disciplinary Module

The disciplinary module's priority seems to be attuned to identifying when Clark is resisting the anti-Zod or Kryptonian-legacy directives. When Clark chooses to save humans or prioritizes his human life, the disciplinary module strips Clark of power at moments of crisis; it freezes him, it burns him, it threatens him.

Poor Awareness

These three modules are operating in parallel to the physical and tactical learning module, which seeks to train Clark without suppressing his human identity: it provides lessons for Clark to control each of his powers and apply them; it indicates what Clark's upper limits are and what may be causing his present limitations of strength, speed and flight; it seeks to teach Clark in his human identity instead of replacing it.

The first three modules (anti-Zod, Kryptonian legacy, disciplinary) demonstrate a lot of real world AI problems. Jor-El, like a lot of AI today, has poor contextual awareness; he doesn't evaluate situations in terms of human danger, only specific mission goals.

Jor-El displays an obvious AI bias; he is slanted towards Kryptonian preservation, and undervalues human life. Jor-El demonstrates a limited adaptability to dynamic situations, instead responding with rigid prioritization of original goals. As a result, his decisions and punishments are inconsistent and incoherent, morally unsound, and unwarrantedly harsh.

Growth and Maturity Module

In addition, the three anti-Zod, legacy and disciplinary modules are completely at odds with the growth and maturity module which serves to shepherd Clark from youth to adulthood via what it calls "trials", and recognizes that Clark's human upbringing with Jonathan and Martha and Clark's time in Smallville have provided a strong moral framework for how Clark will use his powers.

This module thanks Martha Kent for raising Clark well and seems devoted to helping Clark master his emotions and his physical reactions, even working in tandem with the moral and tactical module to teach Clark how to restrain his strength for intimacy. But it is in stark contrast to the Kryptonian legacy module that declared Martha and other humans were unnecessary encumbrances. 

Ethical and Moral Module

The final module of note in this theoretical framework is the ethical and moral module, which is in stark opposition to the anti-Zod, legacy, and disciplinary modules. The ethical and moral module's goal is to train Clark to be Earth's hero. It prioritizes protecting human life, even the lives of human enemies. It challenges Clark to save humans more efficiently when the anti-Zod module punished Clark for saving them. It warns Clark against aggression and "darkness" instead of simply using mind control and identity replacement.

It rebukes Clark for nearing killing a Lex Luthor clone when the first three modules were indifferent to human harm.

Contrary Goals

These issues are an extremely realistic portrayal of 2022 - 2024 AI issues. AI is often programmed with goals that, from a machine standpoint, can seem mutually exclusive. AI is frequently given directives -- tactics and strategies -- to achieve its goals, only to find those directives are in in opposition or can work towards some goals while interfering with others. AI often lacks situational and contextual nuance.

For example, AI that's asked to create a product assembly workflow of efficiency and safety will often fail. It will present either a high-efficiency but high-risk process that skips inspections and safety checks and endangers human life; alternatively, it might present a zero-risk workflow that makes it impossible to consistently manufacture anything. It lacks the balance and understanding to reconcile the opposing values of efficiency and safety; it isn't sure how to make appropriate trade-offs and it defaults to extreme positions.

In this case, the Jor-El AI has been programmed with competing goals: to train Clark as humanity's defender but maintain Kryptonian culture; to represent Krypton wholly but to guide humans morally within human culture; to protect humans in all circumstances while prioritizing Zod's defeat.

The AI has also been programmed with oppositional directives: punishment and moral guidance; isolationism with social development. This, combined with translation errors, has created a severely misaligned AI system that causes Jor-El to be inconsistent, erratic, and perpetually at extreme ends of his behavioural spectrum.

Poor Learning

In addition, the Jor-El AI demonstrates some capacity for adaptive learning, but in a highly inconsistent and unreliable fashion. Despite claiming that Clark has made great strides and achieving a more harmonious relationship, the Jor-El AI regularly defaults to punishing, attacking and threatening Clark and eventually refuses to speak with him.

The AI clearly adapts to recognize that Clark's human experiences and connections are valuable and vital to Clark's destiny, yet it can't seem to consistently apply this learning to future interactions.

This is a very common problem in real world AI systems: AI often struggles to learn new data and adapt its response accordingly. AI will often review a piece of writing and note flaws, then review a corrected draft and note the same flaws anyway, warping existing information or generating false information in order to justify its reiterated criticisms.

This is because AI can suffer from algorithmic rigidity, where it can't always adapt its programming to new information and defaults to its initial response and original programming. This is a flaw of overfitting to original inputs alongside to limited memory where AI can lack the storage capacity to track progression and development. This creates instances where an AI might learn something and even recall it but fail to apply it consistently to other situations.

Poor Emotional Intelligence

The most glaring problem with the Jor-El AI is a lack of emotional intelligence. The Jor-El AI punishes Clark for prioritizing human welfare and for refusing to adopt Kryptonian culture despite Clark being the only Kryptonian on Earth. Jor-El also presents a message of conquest and authoritarianism on their first interaction and orders Clark to abandon his family with no regard for Clark's emotional bonds.

This lack of emotional intelligence is extremely common in real world AI systems. Many chatbots, when conversing with users about grief and frustration, will respond with tone-deaf or overly literal outputs that aren't informed by any recognition of the users' emotional states. AI human resources software often fails to evaluate the interpersonal skills and value systems of candidates.

This is because AI doesn't have the depth of social experience that humans possess, and the inner life of AI is algorithmic and programmatic rather than emotional or experiential.

The overall sense, from a real world AI standpoint of 2024, is that Jor-El built this AI in a slapdash fashion with a lot of hackwork and cut corners. This is probably due to the fact that Jor-El had to assemble this AI system under the pressure of learning that his planet was soon to explode.

The Original Creator

The 'real' Jor-El appears on Smallville in Season 9 as a biological man, a Kryptonian, albeit a clone. Jor-El, played by Julian Sands, is in stark contrast to the AI: he is kind, gentle, diplomatic, noble, and compassionate; he is nothing like his AI counterpart and the inconsistency is left a mystery.

In Season 10, Clark receives a message recorded by the real Jor-El before his death, again played by Julian Sands. Jor-El tells Clark: "I am sending with you all my knowledge. None of my ego or regret. They will die with me here on Krypton."

The implication is that due to this omission, Jor-El unintentionally removed the key parts of his personality that create empathy, understanding, familial connections, warmth, and the personal touch.

As a result, the AI has a simplified moral framework of extreme black and white terms, leading to a harsh, strict and rigid pattern of behaviour that is contradicted by opposing modules of guidance and learning.

Poorly Made

The Jor-El AI is, despite its capabilities, a poorly made system. The flaws seem to originate from a lack of thorough testing (especially in high crisis situations), a failure to address ethical considerations and biases, a total lack of documentation, and no maintenance and updates for patches.

Due to Krypton's destruction, the lack of updates and patches is perhaps understandable; less so is the shocking lack of security where anyone seems to be able to break into the Fortress at any time and damage the AI interface. However, due to the stress and impossible situation in which Jor-El built this AI deathtrap, perhaps he should be excused.

Regardless, the problems with the Jor-El AI are alarming. While every AI system today has all of these problems, no AI system in our world has the capacity to imprint overriding personalities, encase people in ice, drain lifeforce from their bodies or inflict burns and brands on people's flesh (although I'm sure there's a drone system out there that can do something like that and could someday be AI controlled).

Accidentally Insightful

It's incredibly amusing that the writers, due to having an extremely inconsistent take on the Jor-El AI in 2003 - 2011, inadvertently captured all the problems with artificial intelligence from 2022 onward. Watched on original broadcast, the Jor-El character is erratic, written without intention or foresight beyond his use as a plot device to hinder or help Clark as needed in each episode. The characterization is obnoxious and frustrating.

Watched today, the Jor-El AI is a strangely prescient portrayal of real world AI problems: conflicting objectives, opposing directives, translation errors, poor learning, limited adaptability, unreliable performance and limited to non-existent emotional intelligence -- all of which AI developers struggle with now. What was once incompetence has now become insightful, and it's entirely accidental.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I know that early mail-in voting reports indicate that there's a smaller edge on likely Democratic votes than likely Republican votes than there was in 2020, but I think people are forgetting that people are much more likely to vote in person than they were in 2020.  I just hope battleground Kamala voters vote early as opposed to voting on election day to avoid the intimidation-like behavior I'm expecting MAGA to try in those states.

Simon Rosenberg has been very big on voting ASAP, as early as possible.

I'm pretty freaked out by all of it, albeit less frightened than with Biden, but still pretty darn scared. With Biden, my terror was at a nine out of ten. With Kamala, I'm at... seven to seven and a half.

I guess I'll just try to focus on work.

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Exhaustive discussions over "language" are fine and dandy, but are as actionable as me farting into the wind.  The uber-sensitivity only stifles inventive thought, and divides, it only divides.  The first amendment allows for it, as simply being crass with language is protected, and one should not fear for that.  The outrage police have soiled political discourse, particularly on the left, and driven a mass of people towards the Orange menace.  In fact, I would say that besides inflation, it's up there in 2nd place for driving left of center folk into Trump's small hands.  There has been a high level clampdown on free thought and discourse, which largely came out of the COVID paranoia, and has increasingly turned younger generations off.

Aside from the "fine and dandy" part, this comment strikes me as a defence coming from a person may often be very careless with language, who might regularly offend others, who dislikes discussions of this nature because then they have to confront how they may have regularly offended and upset others with their words.

When someone claims that examining "crass" language can only stifle and divide, it sounds to me like they don't want to be held accountable or responsible for their own words.

I also observe that people who complain they are being stifled and divided by analyzing language will often try to stifle review of their words and divide their protest across various excuses: they claim they shouldn't be held responsible for anything they said because they didn't think it through or they posted it a long time ago or their words weren't meant to be reviewed or they don't remember writing it or they shouldn't have to take responsibility for anything they said on the internet or passingly or ever.

It seems to me that this is the response of someone for whom words have often blown up in their faces. I think someone like this will often blame others for being oversensitive and restrictive; they will dismiss examinations of language; they will attempt to intimidate by claiming that calling for awareness of the weight and power of words are an attack on civil liberties and personal freedoms.

I think they do this because their words have exposed them when analyzed and they don't like what's revealed. I pulled all of that with Allison Mack's webmaster. I see what my words back then reveal about me and I feel just awful about it.

I should have seen that instead of this woman being oversensitive to words, I was reckless with them. Instead of restricting me, she needed me to be more responsible. Instead of impeding my liberties and freedoms by questioning my words, she needed me to understand what words can do and how they need to be wielded with care.

I could have been compassionate but realistic, empathetic yet factual. And maybe, if I hadn't been derisive, scornful and mocking, this woman wouldn't have gone on the defensive and gotten in deeper with Allison Mack.

I will not be so arrogant as to claim full responsibility for this web designer's choices. I'm sure there are lots of unfortunate reasons why this web designer joined Mack's cult, but I wish I hadn't given her one more.

People are responsible for the words they use and for how their words reflect their character and values, and the world has every right to analyze what they -- or I -- post in public, even and especially if some of us may deeply regret what we've said.

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My post about political anxiety in Canada was referring to a conservative Canadian politician who is likely to be the next Canadian prime minister. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Poilievre He's basically Donald Trump lite in Canada. I will not vote for him, but many will; the current prime minister (for whom I will grudgingly vote) has managed to alienate progressives and centrists alike. Even people who might support the (supposedly) progressive party will not support its present leader.

SliderQuinn21 wrote:

And people are struggling.  The problem is that Donald Trump has zero regard for them, and he wouldn't help them if he could.  He'll help them if it also helps him, but that's about where it ends.

To me, his base is an abused wife that stays with him even though he's constantly abusive.  He cheats on her, and he hits her.  And yet she loves him, and she believes his lies.  I hate Trump, but I pity his supporters.  I really think they simply don't know any better, and they'll follow him to their own doom.

You may wish to consider caution with this metaphor.

I am not saying you have done anything inappropriate, and this is not a reprimand, but a confession: I have used this metaphor in the past, and I was wrong to do so, and I deeply regret it.

I do not think you are wrong to use it, but speaking only for myself: I have elected to retire this one from my own usage.

I once knew a woman who was the webmaster for Hollywood actress Allison Mack. This woman was regularly posting about how Chloe was her favourite character on SMALLVILLE and at one point declared that Chloe was the most important character in the series. At that point, I snarked -- and I should not have -- that Chloe's two minutes of screentime across most episodes made her trivial and irrelevant and that anyone who called Chloe a lead character was like a...

Well, you know what I said. I won't say it twice. I shouldn't have even said it once.

This web designer was deeply hurt and upset, and I blew it off, and I shouldn't have done that either.

At one point, she accidentally instant messaged me, sharing some difficulties with Allison Mack. I would take this opportunity to 'apologize', but not, I think, as sincerely as I would now; I said I'd been unwell and unhappy, but I think I was using illness as an excuse. She deserved better from me and deserved a sincere message of regret and responsibility from me.

In recent years, the world learned: Allison Mack was running a cult, she was physically and emotionally abusive to those she inducted into her cult. She had inducted this woman, this wonderful web designer, into her cut. She was abusing this woman savagely. This means my remark about this web designer was both grossly inappropriate and savagely accurate, and the accuracy of my comment actually makes it all the more cruel, insensitive and shameful on my part.

I have thought about the situation with Allison Mack and her web designer a lot, and about my words. I have concluded that I should have used a different metaphor.

I should have likened the situation to someone in a pyramid scheme who constantly thinks their big payout is coming soon (it isn't) or someone in a cult who constantly thinks the ascension is any day now (it's not) or to a politician insisting they can win when their fundraising and support have fallen through the floor or to SLIDERS fans who constantly thought that with one more season, John and Jerry and Sabrina and Tracy would come back (they wouldn't).

Is your use of this metaphor apt? I think so... but it's a sensitive area and I have learned not to make light of this subject. This is not a reprimand. I am not saying you have done anything wrong. I am saying it was wrong for *me* to use the metaphor that I did. I should not have done it. I won't do it again.

You aren't me. The subject to which you apply this metaphor is not the same. Your use of it is not the same. For one thing, you are speaking about a media appearance, not a private person. For another, you are describing the situation generally as opposed to directing it towards a specific individual. My mistakes are not yours.

Since we're friends, I merely wish to share my own contemplations on this, for you to use or dismiss as you see fit, and you can come to your own conclusions and decisions. Thank you for attending my TED Talk.

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I think my terror is probably about us here in Canada, where we are staring down the barrel of an election where the advantage is with this climate change dismissing looney toon who is basically Trump lite.

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i have gone from a terrible sense of doom to a moderate sense of doom.

There was a time when I was so angry at Jerry O'Connell for so many failures and betrayals.

But I think, if I'm being more honest with myself: I was angry with him because his existence and his public persona were a constant reminder of an unchangeable truth. A fact that I didn't like to acknowledge or admit. A reality that William Shatner touches on in his song, "Real":

William Shatner wrote:

I have saved the world in the movies
So naturally there's folks who think
I must know what to do.

But just because you've seen me on your TV
Doesn't mean I'm any more enlightened than you.

I'd love to help the world
and all its problems.
But I'm an entertainer,
and that's all.

So the next time
there's an asteroid
or a natural disaster
I'm flattered
that you thought of me
But I'm not the one to call.

And while there's a part of me in that guy you've seen
Up there on that screen,
I eat and sleep and breathe and bleed and feel.

I wish I knew the things you think I do
I would change this world for sure.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm real.

After looking at the material, I do not think that finding and scanning theatrical prints of THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK is a good use of anyone's time or effort.

The only reason to locate and scan a print of this nature is to restore the 1980 theatrical cut. But unlike STAR WARS and RETURN OF THE JEDI, the blu-ray version of EMPIRE is very easily returned to its original version. EMPIRE had very few changes made.

The very few non-HD shots and effects that need to be reinstated to the blu-ray version, even if sourced from low-resolution DVD, are easily matched to the blu-ray footage because those effects were mostly in motion, looked more painterly than photorealistic, and the upscaling blur isn't going to make them seem out of place.

The changes made to STAR WARS and RETURN OF THE JEDI were harder to undo: restoring the original versions of Tatooine, Mos Eisley, the Death Star and the final battle required a lot of cross-sourcing to rebuild it. RETURN, while having more isolated changes, had so many key shots altered or replaced in Jabba's palace and the Ewok celebration that a DESPECIALIZED version has to use a lot of mismatched SD and HD material and fade back and forth between them, sometimes in the same shot.

But EMPIRE doesn't have that mismatch problem. Most of the missing HD material is meant to be blurred by motion or due to being a matte painting. A high quality theatrical print of EMPIRE would not look very different from the DESPECIALIZED version.

The only real issue with the DESPECIALIZED version of EMPIRE is that it was made in 720p, largely because the upscaled DVD footage didn't scale well to 1080p, and even modern AI upscaling has addressed that gap; a 1080p upscale of EMPIRE looks as good as the denoised theatrical print scan of STAR WARS.

I don't think EMPIRE will benefit from finding any more prints to scan.

After some review... I'm forced to conclude that an upscaled from 720p to 1080p DESPECIALIZED EMPIRE is preferable to 4K80 EMPIRE, at least for me.

The 4K project was very fortunate in finding some solid theatrical prints of STAR WARS and a fantastic one of RETURN. What they found for EMPIRE, however, is really dirty, flickery and grainy and has an uncomfortably faded, slightly fuzzy quality even under the graininess and even after all the cleanup.

DESPECIALIZED, being based on the blu-ray, doesn't have that issue. The DEPSECIALIZED EMPIRE, as reconstructions go, doesn't really have that much to DESPECIALIZE. The majority of the new special effects were in the new shots of the Hoth monster (which the fan editor simply cut) and the new effects in Cloud City which the editor restored. That and other small restorations (getting the lightsabers to be the right colour, adding back matte lines) were all that was really needed since the SPECIAL EDITION added so little to EMPIRE.

I would probably stick with DESPECIALIZED for EMPIRE. Since it was a 720p file upscaled to 1080p for consistency with me, it doesn't even look that different from the soft but clear versions of 4K77 STAR WARS and 4K83 RETURN OF THE JEDI, as the AI upscale softened the DESPECIALIZED EMPIRE.

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I'm looking forward to seeing it. I mean, having sat through all of the TERMINATOR movies, I might as well weather through whatever this is, although I've heard good things.

Another piece of TERMINATOR writing I'd like to finish reading: a fan wrote 28 (!!) screenplays wrapping up THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES with a virtual Season 3 of 22 episodes and a virtual Season 4 of five episodes and a feature length finale screenplay. I've read the first one and it's precisely the show I remember, from Josh Friedman's sardonic and militaristic tone to the omnipresent shadow of war and violence over every scene.

https://tib.cjcs.com/terminator-the-con … c-project/

My suspicion is that 80 - 90 percent of viewers would choose DESPECIALIZED over the digital print scans because DESPECIALIZED is mostly sharp and looks mostly modern while the scans are grainy, noisy, and also not as sharp. I'm basing this on how RussianCabbie prefers the hypersaturated version of BACK TO THE FUTURE over the more authentic desaturated version because RussianCabbie, in my view, has extremely normal, mainstream preferences for video quality.

I personally am not a DESPECIALIZED person, but I think I'm in the minority.

Grizzlor wrote:

What I am getting at is that even this rotoscoping you're mentioning, I don't want that either.

If you don't want DESPECIALIZED to use rotoscoping, I'm not sure how you expect DESPECIALIZED to even exist.

Rotoscoping: a technique usually used by animators use to trace over live action footage, creating an outline around a visual element. Used in animation, the outline can be used for an illustration. Used in film compositing, the visual element within the outline can be copied, and then placed on a different piece of footage.

Rotoscoping effects in the DESPECIALIZED editions: This refers to drawing an outline around a special effect from the theatrical version of a film (from DVD or a theatrical film print). The effect is copied. The effect is then placed over the blu-ray version of the footage to cover the SPECIAL EDITION effect with the theatrical version of the effect.

Rotoscoping is the means by which the DESPECIALIZED editions were created. If you don't want the blu-ray SPECIAL EDITIONS and you don't want DESPECIAIZED using rotoscoping to put the original effects back in place, what do you want DESPECIALIZED to do and why were you interested in it at all?

That said, I'm shifting away from DESPECIALIZED. It was great when first released, but I think I'm happier with digital scans of theatrical prints. Those scans were years away from being released when DESPECIALIZED first hit the internet.

DESPECIALIZED, because it starts with the blu-rays, may be as sharper in most scenes, but the sourced-from-DVD or print material doesn't match the rest of it. You sometimes get an HD Luke against an SD matte painting, or HD interiors of X-Wing fighter pilots intercut with SD exteriors of the X-Wings themselves.

Digital scans of film prints, while a little softer, are consistent throughout. Of course, a lot of people may prefer DESPECIALIZED because they find the hyper grainy look of the digital scans more distracting than DESPECIALIZED being a bit schizophrenic in sharpness. I personally decided to run the digital scans through an AI grain normalization process -- not to remove the grain, just to make it the same in one scene as it is in all others.

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I am as nervous as a Blockbuster manager during the rise of Netflix. I'm not sure what will happen. And you know what? I'm proud of that.

I used to have a very obvious anxiety disorder that I couldn't manage properly at the time. There was someone I looked up to, who was a bit of a shock jock sort of person. He held Libertarian views like Tracy Torme, and he would offer a lot of political views boldly and a lot of hypercritical perspectives of anything and everything (art, science, housing, parking spaces) with total certainty. I never talked to anyone else who expressed so little doubt, and because I was severely overstocked with doubt, I admired and envied him.

He said that Clinton was certain to win in 2016. He said, upon Trump's win, that Trump had lived in a blue state for most of his life and would tone down the insanity. He said that the presidency was not a very powerful position or office and that whoever was president didn't fundamentally change anything. He said that Biden was doomed to lose the 2020 election and that Trump was a master showman who would run rings around Biden.

He was wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong.

He never conceded his errors. He never even acknowledged his errors and that his prognostications were not correct, that the world didn't work the way he thought it would, that the outcomes weren't the ones he expected. He never reviewed his errors and why his predictions were off. He had no self-doubt. He kept making them with the same level of certainty even when that absolute confidence had proven absolutely wrong.

And because I loved him and admired him and valued him, I got upset with him and I... didn't handle my frustration well; I became increasingly incensed by what I perceived as ego and vanity... which is pretty absurd because I have plenty of ego and vanity myself. Nobody writes nine SLIDERS scripts unpaid and ropes podcasters in to talk about it without some arrogance.

But regardless, my friend did not acknowledge that he was often wrong, that he didn't really know what was going to happen, that the world didn't always work the way he thought it did our should, and that he wasn't sure.

I won't make that mistake. Simon Rosenberg paints a pretty picture balanced by realism; it could still be unbalanced. He could still be wrong and he'd be the first person to tell you that. He's not a god. More specifically, Rosenberg is not Quinn Mallory or Professor Arturo; he is not a mathematician.

He is an analyst, a pundit, and he is biased to say Kamala is doing well because he wants her to be doing well. He was right in 2022 that the red wave was an illusion; he is right to say that 2024 isn't 2022 -- but there's always more to the picture than anyone can see, and it's entirely possible that he's overlooked a key item that would change his assessment if he knew to factor it in. It's also possible that he's overlooked things that, in the end, won't matter.

I share his words because they sound good to me, but let us never forget that I am posting what I want to hear, and sometimes, what I want to hear is not accurate.

I have made predictions before and they were wrong. It shook me. It rattled me. It terrified me. I'm not absolutely confident. I have doubts. But I don't doubt reality, which is that The New York Times is looking at one poll and Simon Rosenberg is looking at 12. But what is going to happen?

I'm not too proud to say I don't know and I'm not sure.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

NYT came out with a poll yesterday that had Trump up one.  Everyone lost their minds, but it obviously went in two different camps.  GOP said it was clear that the Harris honeymoon is over and everyone came back to their original camps.  Liberals said there were crosstabs issues (oversampling of both Republicans and evangelicals).  I'm sure both are possible.

Simon Rosenberg wrote:

Happy Sunday all. I try to take Sundays off but with the NYT dropping a poll showing Trump pulling ahead, 48-47, I am doing a short post.

I try very hard to not get into analyzing individual polls and instead look at broad trends across all polling. For as you’ve heard me say the core conceit of the polling industrial complex is that polls are accurate, a photograph of a moment rather than a sketch. And the truth is they are far more like a hurried sketch than a photograph and thus no one poll can claim to capture the essence of a fleeting moment. Given the limitations of any single poll, it is best to look at trends across all polls. This is why we’ve come to rely on poll averages in recent years.

Today the NYT tells us not to do that. They tell us we should ignore the 12 non-partisan polls with interviews taken since August 28th, polls that show VP Harris with a 3 point lead on average and no movement towards Trump. Here is what the NYT wrote today:

There’s also a plausible reason the Times/Siena poll would be the first to capture a shift back toward Mr. Trump: There simply haven’t been many high-quality surveys fielded since the convention, when Ms. Harris was riding high. There was a scattering of online polls this week, but there hasn’t been a traditional high-quality survey with interviews conducted after Aug. 28.

Sorry NYT but we are not going to dismiss all these other polls taken during this period showing us with a three point national lead and in a better position in the battlegrounds. Not how this works. Your poll is one among many, and today it is an outlier, the only one of 13 polls taken in recent weeks showing Trump with a lead. But it also doesn’t really matter. With the debate Tuesday the election will change again, and in a few days we will be talking about all the new polls flying at us after the debate.

We need to let go of 2016. This election is not like 2016, or 2020, or 2008 or 2012. It is 2024. No election is like any other. One of the central mistakes analysts made in 2022 was believing it was going to be like other mid-terms even when the data was making very clear it just wasn’t going to be. We need to let 2024 be 2024, and Kamala Harris be Kamala Harris.

Think about how different things are. We have a dynamic, new, next gen Presidential ticket. Enthusiasm for Harris-Walz is far more like 2008 than 2016 or 2020. Harris has been the Vice President and leader of an Administration that has left the country far better than they found it. Governor Walz is an important bridge to parts of the country we have struggled to reach, and the campaign is working very hard to expand its coalition even beyond what we had when we won in 2020. We have vastly more money than we used to have, and our grassroots is far more powerful, experienced and capable. In 2014 we had a very disappointing mid-term performance. In 2022 rather than losing ground we actually gained ground in the mid-terms, and have continued to overperform expectations and win in elections of all kinds across the county since. As Tom Bonier and I discussed last week, the intensity indicators we tracked in 2022 that led us to believe the election would be better than expected for us are all once again heading pointing in the right direction.

Trump does not have super powers or some magical connection with the American electorate and never did. This myth of his strength is corrosive, red wavy and wrong. He only won the election in 2016 with the extraordinary interventions of our FBI and the Russian government. He only received 46% and 47% of the vote in his two elections, less than Mitt Romney received in 2012. Every election since 2016 has gone poorly for MAGA. Rs were so worried about Trump’s low ceiling this cycle they got three Jill Steins to run this time, not just one. They are struggling to raise hard dollars. It is not clear they have a legitimate field operation this time. MAGA Senate and gubernatorial candidates are struggling, as they did in 2022, and may act as a drag on Trump throughout the battlegrounds. Trump 2024 is weak, not strong.

I hope he's right.

Jerry enjoys science fiction, but I imagine he's mostly there to be with his wife after she's done her panels and signed her photos.

My image of Jerry from the 1990s and from Melissa Joan Hart's autobiography is that Jerry was a philanderer, so it's really weird for me to say this now, but Jerry O'Connell is head over heels in love with Rebecca Romijn. But also: he's at the cons for leisure, not for work.

I guess, taking this more seriously, one factor would be whether or not Jerry O'Connell needs the money and if doing more panels and signing autographs for fans is how he wants to spend his time.

Actors like Kim Rhodes and Briana Buckmaster (Jody and Donna on SUPERNATURAL) earn a lot of income from convention appearances and maintaining a fan-directed persona. Fans love them. Wil Wheaton made a living from convention appearances for a time, many former DOCTOR WHO and STAR TREK actors do the same.

DOCTOR WHO actor Sylvester McCoy remarked that when he was cast as the Seventh Doctor, he didn't realize that this moderately well-paying and brief job would also come with a pension -- by pension, he means the convention appearances (and audioplays).

In Wil Wheaton's biography, he describes how, as a young teenager, he attended a STAR TREK cruise and saw some of THE ORIGINAL SERIES cast greeting fans in the morning, all clearly hungover or drunk, and Wil details how, as a boy, he thought those actors were such pathetic losers: they were wasted in the morning, they were trading on work that was decades in the past to earn money now, and Wil decided to quit STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION before he ended up like them.

Wil then writes that as an adult, he is ashamed of his thoughts and choices: he says that he now feels it is not a big deal to enjoy alcohol on what is really a paid vacation; that those actors were probably very happy to keep revisiting their time aboard the USS Enterprise and earning a decent living; that he should have been more grateful for his TREK opportunities and stuck with the show to build up some savings for the post-TREK future.

Also, he too as an adult was trying to earn a living off conventions, having steered into the very fate he sought to avoid -- and worse, he wasn't earning any income from conventions as not many wanted his autograph (at least not until his writing career took off).

I don't think Jerry is as caustic as Wil, but the main thing to take away from Wil's thoughts is this: conventions are a way for actors to earn money between acting roles or after an acting career has ceased to produce any new acting credits.

Jerry O'Connell isn't a big star who is above conventions, but because he worked so much as a lead on so many shows, he has a level of income from residuals and new & well-paid roles that mean convention-income isn't as central for him as it is for others. As a result, he may prefer to devote the time he might have for conventions to his family and especially his children.

Why doesn't he listen to you? Are you not good friends and lifelong companions anymore?

I'm not entirely sure what you are asking.

The DESPECIALIZED versions took the blu-ray version and downscaled it from 1080p to 720p, and upscaled the DVD release of the theatrical versions to 720p. Wherever the blu-ray had a effect, it was replaced with the DVD version rotoscoped out of the DVD version and on top of the blu-ray version. Some of the theatrical material from the DVD version was then further replaced with material from theatrical prints or frames or photographs of matte paintings. The original transitions were recreated, and the fan editor attempted to restore the original lighting and colour. If there were matte lines and such painted out of the blu-ray version, they were added back in the DESPECIALIZED version.

I can't swear that all SPECIAL EDITION additions have been rotoscoped or replaced in DESPECIALIZED, but I'm betting that 99 percent of them are gone.

At the time, with 720p televisions, DESPECIALIZED looked pretty good, and the upscaled DVD footage seemed to blend well with the blu-ray content. Today, the 720p versions of DESPECIALIZED films look very odd on modern 4K screens: the upscaled DVD content is severely mismatched to the blu-ray. I replaced the DESPECIALIZED versions of STAR WARS and RETURN OF THE JEDI with the 4K77 and 4K83 versions, which are not as blu-ray sharp as DESPECIALIZED, but are more consistent throughout in video quality.

Before the 4K80 version of EMPIRE was finished, I upscaled the DEPSPECIALIZED version of EMPIRE from 720p to 1080p. This smoothed out the mismatches in DVD and blu-ray by adding a slight AI smooth-sharpening while adding AI grain to be consistent. This upscaled version of the DESPECIALIZED 720p EMPIRE is actually a bit clearer and sharper than the 4K80 version, which is a digital scan of a theatrical print.

However, the theatrical print scan is, despite being less sharp and heavily grainy, still very adequate for 4K display, and more authentic. And I just want to run some AI digital noise reduction on it -- not to remove the grain entirely, just to make it consistent across the whole film so I can get used to it, not noticing it intensifying or diminishing, and focus on the story.

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ireactions wrote:

Awhile ago, Temporal Flux recommended this 2020 series called ZOEY'S EXTRAORDINARY PLAYLIST, a musical series set in San Francisco featuring one of my favourite actresses, the assertive and sardonic Jane Levy. I watched the first episode and... refused to watch more. Mainly because it was such a lavishly shot, high budget series that I did not want to watch it on my little 10.4 inch Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 tablet at the time, the screen on which I was watching most TV shows. Something as elaborate and visually sumptuous as ZOEY'S EXTRAORDINARY PLAYLIST needed to be watched on a full-size television.

I'm trying to find some time to watch it now, over two years since it was cancelled on a cliffhanger and resolved in a movie length special.

Eight months later, I finally finished ZOEY'S EXTRAORDINARY PLAYLIST, which was cancelled on its Season 2 cliffhanger finale and then resolved in a feature length Roku-streamed Christmas special, ZOE'S EXTRAORDINARY PLAYLIST.

It was really good. It provided both a climax and conclusion to the ongoing threads of the series, while simultaneously leaving some room for development should there ever be a follow up in the future.

I wonder what SLIDERS would have been like if Robert K. Weiss' 2000-era bid for a feature film had ever come to pass.

ireactions wrote:

The fan-produced 4K80 release is now out on specialist fan preservation sites. It's a 4K digital scan of the theatrical cut of EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, made from a 35mm print and a 16mm print, cleaned up by fans to assemble the best versions of both prints and address the faded colour and recreate how it looked in cinemas in 1980.  https://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k80/

I've looked at the first version and it looks just like the non-special VHS version I remember in the 90s, authentic but dirty and with grain so high in some scenes it's like static baked into the frame. Other scenes have a natural level of grain. It looks like a medium quality 720p image (because a theatrical film print is several generations removed from the original negative).

Grizzlor wrote:
Oh cool, I have been meaning to get ahold of the TN1 stuff for awhile now.  IMO those are vastly superior to the earlier work (which I have) that sourced Bluray and DVD.  Now that they have found film, each time more complete, the work is better and more authentic.  I cannot describe the disgust the repeated Lucas mutilations have caused me, ha ha ha.  Frankly, of all the re-added scenes in the OT, maybe the only one I felt "added" to any of them was the Biggs/Luke embrace prior to the Battle of Yavin in the first movie.  Every other addition or change was putrid, and should never have been made.

Well, I ran two upscales on the 4K80 THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK for a 1080p output with AI grain refinement, not to remove it, just to get it consistent. And... hmm. My first attempt set the grain reduction to mild, but it left too much of the grain intact and seemed to make no difference.

The second one, I set the DNR more aggressively, and removed so much grain that there was an unpleasant waxy quality to it that the overlaid AI grain couldn't do the job of offsetting the smoothness.  James Cameron would love it since he re-released TRUE LIES looking like this, but I found it untenable.

I'm now running a third attempt where after removing the almost static-like levels of noise, the replacement AI grain will be 50 percent larger than my last effort.

4K80 is very authentic, but the DESPECIALIZED versions of the movies have some advantages. They are 720p files made from integrating upscaled DVD footage back into the blu-ray via recutting and rotoscoping. They looked fine on a 32 inch 720p screen. But they look very bad on on a 55 inch 4K screen: the blu-ray footage looks razor sharp; the upscaled DVD sequences look muddy and blocky.

Before 4K80 (but after STAR WARS and RETURN OF THE JEDI had been restored via theatrical prints), I ran the DESPECIALIZED EMPIRE through Topaz to upscale it to 1080p and created a pretty consistent level of smooth and sharp throughout, and I used this for the second film in my STAR WARS collection.

4K80, however, doesn't look as crisp, obviously because it's a theatrical print and not a blu-ray drawn from the  original master negative. DESPECIALIZED if upscaled from 720p to 1080p, is always going to look a lot sharper for the blu-ray sourced segments and a little smoother for the DVD sections. In comparison, 4K80 will be rough and grainy and my AI scaling will only make it slightly smoother and get the grain consistent so as not to be distracting.

DESPECIALIZED upscaled to 1080p is probably the most 'modern' looking version while the AI-DNRed print scans are more 'authentic', but they are a bit of a step down in terms of basic image quality.

Just my opinion: aside from 102 - 109, all other SLIDERS episodes stretch to a 55 inch LCD just fine.

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Last night, in the depths of despair over how I can't properly upscale "Summer of Love" to "Luck of the Draw", I started looking on Kijiji for used CRTs. I saw one for $15 USD. Then I realized that while I have $15 USD, I have absolutely nowhere sensible to put a CRT television set because anywhere it could go is already occupied by a modern TV.

I've a really interesting program called ShaderGlass. https://mausimus.itch.io/shaderglass

It casts an overlay over the screen of a Windows PC, which you can apply to different windows or make fullscreen. It makes your screen mimic a cathode ray tube television with the dot pattern and the screen curvature and the crushed blacks. ShaderGlass made "Luck of the Draw" look like it did in 1995 for the first time since I'd thrown out my old CRT. And unlike an actual CRT, ShaderGlass doesn't cost or weigh anything or take up any physical space.

Back to SLIDERS:

I've found a really interesting program called ShaderGlass. https://mausimus.itch.io/shaderglass

It casts an overlay over the screen of your Windows PC, which you can move over different windows or make fullscreen. It has presets to make the overlay make your screen mimic a cathode ray tube television with the dot pattern and the screen curvature and the crushed blacks.

I set it to fullscreen on my laptop. Then I played "Luck of the Draw". With the dot pattern masking the lack of detail and the fuzzy resolution, this is the first time that "Luck of the Draw" has looked right to me in years. And it looked... like a 90s TV show on a 90s TV screen.

Maybe, for this sort of content, the future is demastering.

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I don't believe in book burning, but if I could burn one book, it would be Brad Linaweaver's novelization. I would settle for it being erased off the face of the Earth.

Let Brad Linaweaver be remembered for his masterpiece, MOON OF ICE, as well as THE LAND BEYOND SUMMER and his BATTLESTAR GALACTICA novels and his DOOM novels. Let his non-contributions to SLIDERS be forgiven as an unfortunate set of errors in judgement on the legacy of a man who did better work elsewhere. And then let his work on SLIDERS be forgotten.

Let him be honoured and remembered for his best and not his worst.

I cannot stress enough in the name of Wade Welles' leather jacket that the opinions of ireactions on anything -- up to and including Brad Linaweaver's SLIDERS writing -- are not the consensus views of Sliders.tv.

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Grizzlor wrote:

DVD now needed to fit some (not all) of the litany of BRD extras, the studio would often sacrifice DVD bit rate to squeeze it on there.   Granted, many releases simply put the extras onto a second disc, but that's a cost associated.  Frankly, producing new bonus content wound up being a waste of money, as studies found the vast majority of it went unwatched.

That's unfortunate!

To me, I think of how the Universal DVD release of SLIDERS looks shockingly poor on DVD for Episodes 102 - 109, but if played on a CRT television, I don't think anyone could tell that those episodes looked any blurrier than the pilot or the subsequent seasons. I also doubt poor DVD bit rate was a problem until HD televisions started reaching 75 percent of homes by 2013, at which point DVD was already too low a resolution for the screen, and overcompression would make it worse. However, by 2015, it was pretty clear that DVD was going to fade in favour of streaming and, if anyone really wanted physical media, blu-ray for collectors.

If it were up to me -- and it's not -- it would have been nice if the TRUE LIES blu-ray had included an unenhanced original negative scan, even if only as an extra DVD.

I think AI sharpening has its place, but I cannot fathom why anyone would need to use it on TRUE LIES. It was shot on 35mm film, it was stored on 35mm film. The original negative, after rescanning, might have benefited from a modest noise reduction because film projection softens noise while LCD sharpens it and makes it more distracting. It might benefit from some colour and lighting adjustment because LCD is much brighter than a theatrical print projection screen: it would be good to make sure elements meant to be dark and shadowy remain so while bright scenes aren't overexposed. But it certainly would not need resharpening for 4K televisions; it's already a 35mm film scan.

The AI sharpening on TRUE LIES, in my view, makes details that would be naturally blurred by movement retain sharpness even when in motion, which becomes way too distracting. This is a similar issue to TVs with motion smoothing via frame duplication to boost 24 and 30 FPS video to 60 or 120 FPS. While motion smoothing might make a video look more fluid, the process doesn't create the blur that the eye would expect to see with motion, so the image looks unnatural. The AI sharpening on TRUE LIES has created a similar effect of sharpness without motion blur within a 24 FPS frame rate, and the human brain will reject the mismatch of movement without blur.

The reason they AI sharpened it is probably because their overly aggressive digital noise reduction created a very soft image, and they wanted to sharpen it up. But the end result is that aggressive noise removal on TRUE LIES has eliminated texture from surfaces like skin and clothes. The sharpening, in turn, has increased edge contrast, but does not restore the obscured texture. The image looks computer generated instead of captured in film videography.

One of the first movies that I recall looking like it had suffered way too much noise reduction was WILD WILD WEST, which I saw in theatres and found oddly unnatural with very little grain, but also overly smoothed out skin. At the same time, I've watched a digital scan of a 1977 theatrical print of STAR WARS and found that on LCD, the grain is so prominent and distracting that some DNR is worthwhile -- not to remove it entirely, just to tone it down so it's not a barrier from the story.

Back to TRUE LIES: Cameron insists he reviewed and approved each AI-restored shot. I suspect that when a director has looked at a movie for too long, they may confuse how good individual frames look with how it all plays when in motion and they will also see what they expect to be there instead of what's actually there.

Of all the films that very much did not need elaborately extensive 'restoration', TRUE LIES would be at the top of the list. These changes may have been to make it look more 'modern', but there is nothing wrong with a 1994 film looking like it was made in 1994, and trying to change that doesn't make it look like it was made in 2024; it just looks like it was warped and distorted in 2024.

I think Cameron would have done better to make the 'restoration' of TRUE LIES subtle and low key, focusing on making it look at home on an LCD screen rather than trying to make it look 'better' and making it look... stranger.

EDITED TO ADD:

Hours later, watching a pre-remastering 1080p version of TRUE LIES -- this movie is hilarious. It is beyond me why someone would spend a number of years making this movie with such wonderfully human characters, with Arnold Schwarzenegger being particularly vulnerable and sweet -- and then spend an additional year turning a cinematic, detailed, textured film image into some sort of weird cartoon of oversharpened wax dummies. The remastering eliminated all the motion blur while keeping the framerate at 24 fps -- but you want the motion blur or it looks like some sort of CG animatic instead of a movie.

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From Simon Rosenberg at HopiumChronicles.com on the polls:

One polling note... you often hear commentators talk about Trump overperforming public polling in 2016 and 2020 which means we need to be up by 3-4-5 points or more in the polls to win. That may have been true in 2016 and 2020, but it is core to our understanding here that everything in American politics changed with Dobbs, it was a before and after moment, and that:

Republicans have underperforming public polls in races of all kinds all across the country since Dobbs. We’ve been overperforming public polls not them.

Trump underperformed - not overperformed - public polls in his primary elections, sometimes by a big number.

The fascists underperformed public polls in the recent European and French elections, and the right got blown out in the UK.

Every election is unique, not like any other. I think comparisons to 2016 and 2020 are unhelpful, for Trump 2024 is now an insurrectionist, a rapist, fraudster, traitor, felon, and the man who stripped the rights and freedoms away from the women of America. He is far more degraded, diminished and extreme.

I believe, deeply, that 2024 will not be 2020 or 2016. I think it is far more likely that Trump underperforms than overperforms public polling, and that we end up kicking his ass this November.

**

... regardless of what the polling shows, what we are seeing in all this other data is heightened Dem intensity, and GOP struggle. While all that may change on Election Day itself, it is far more likely Election Day will be just one more day in an election that has looked far more favorable to Dems than polling or conventional wisdom holds since Dobbs.

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The problem for Republicans is all that Dem intensity doesn’t just drive our strong performance in the special elections and the early vote, it translates into far more money, more paid communications, stronger organizations and campaigns and hundreds of thousands of volunteers who can now - using new tools like postcarding, remote texting, remote phonebanking - channel this intensity into direct voter contact in the battlegrounds. All this intensity can be more far more effectively channeled into making our campaigns stronger, making our close stronger and making it far more likely we win.

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Grizzlor wrote:

DVD's were fine, for about a decade.  When Blu-Ray came out, many studios began intentionally degrading their DVD releases on the same product.  Disney was notorious for this, as a way of showing off how much "better" BRD was.  In fact, it wasn't THAT much better.  The bit rate, sure, but given that 4K televisions did not become the "standard" until somewhat recently, there was often not a huge reason to have blu-ray's for close to a decade themselves, on older content.

I wasn't aware that Disney was releasing poor bit rate DVDs (if I understand you correctly). Where can we read more about this?

Jim_Hall wrote:

I loved Early Edition too when it was running. It's been out a while on DVD. I bought it directly through the manufacturer, https://www.visualentertainment.tv/ a few weeks ago. Honestly the DVDs looks even worse than Sliders. The packaging has the DVDs in a flip book binder just setting in a large DVD case. But at least it's been released. There's the shows Roar (Heath Ledger) and Lazarus Man (Robert Urich) that are out only on DVD. Last time I look, Lazarus Man was made to order. I watched them when they aired, but I can't even remember how well I liked them. Early Edition along with Christy which I have a website for, are shows that people aren't being exposed to through streaming. Anyway, I may have to muster the no strength I have left for a 3rd fan website, for Early Edition.

I like EARLY EDITION a lot. I miss it so much. Kyle Chandler once remarked (and I'm paraphrasing), "EARLY EDITION isn't a crime show or a scary show. It's just a nice show that tells nice stories." There's something quite wonderful about the concept of a man who receives tomorrow's newspaper today and wants to do nothing more than prevent as many horrible things as he can in all the time he has.

Four seasons was a good run, and while I would have liked a fifth season, the fourth season finale of Gary learning why he was chosen to receive the paper and declaring that he wouldn't be the last -- that was a really nice way to end the series. I'm looking forward to checking out the DVD and am so glad that you randomly brought it up. Even if the video quality is less than awesome, it'd still be great to have it close by.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I usually go see movies with my buddy.  I will buy the tickets and then he'll buy the next ones.  Looking at my credit card bill, it looks like I spend $30.08 for two tickets including whatever fees and tax or whatever.  He and I live on opposite sides of the city so we have to sorta find a theater that works geographically and we've settled on that one.  I don't get any concessions (I will have already eaten dinner and I don't need anything that will make me have to pee in the middle).

Budgets are different for each person, but I think $15 for the opportunity to hang out with my friend and see a new release is okay with me.  Especially for situations like a) getting to experience the surprises of Deadpool and Wolverine without being spoiled or b) getting to see George Miller action on the big screen or c) experiencing a new Alien film on the big screen in a silent theater.

To me, $15 was an acceptable price for me to see MISSION IMPOSSIBLE and THE MARVELS and DEADPOOL AND WOLVERINE. There were a bunch of movies I wanted to see in theatres, but didn't muster the energy to make it: MARIO, BARBIE, LADY FRANKENSTEIN. $15 made going to those movies feel like work I was doing at my own expense whereas $8 feels like the movie theatre is meeting me halfway.

Also, while I'm sure THE SUBSTANCE with Demi Moore, MY OLD ASS with Aubrey Plaza and NEVER LET GO with Halle Berry will have interesting performances, I can't say these low to mid-budget dramas are something I need to see on a big screen for $15. But to see them upon release instead of waiting for them to reach VOD? That's worth $8 each to me.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I think that's a good experience.  I've also found myself watching a lot of things while I'm working or even getting my phone out while something is on.

I've had a lot of trouble watching TV I'm eager to see because I keep using it as background noise. Sometimes, I prefer to have something I don't like all that much so that I don't need to give it too much attention. During a particularly tiring bout of data entry recently, I watched two Aurora Teagarden Hallmark Mystery movies which have such poor dramatic range and a total lack of subtextual scripting... which is great because I can follow the story despite missing one out of three lines of dialogue.

As a result, it somehow took me a year to watch the final season of THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL because I only wanted to watch it when I was giving it my undivided attention.

I'm not familiar with these debates, but I can assure you that you are absolutely right to say SLIDERS was shot on film: 35mm film in Seasons 1 - 3 and 16mm film in Season 4 - 5. You don't need to 'believe' it, you're correct and it's an objective fact.

If anyone ever told you it wasn't shot on film, they are confused and mistaken. I can right away that it is film from the film grain.

When film is exposed to light, silver halide crystals in the film experience a chemical reaction with tiny particles of metallic silver which create the visible image and creates the texture of grain. This grain is clearly present in the Pilot and Seasons 2 - 3, and the grains get comparatively larger in Seasons 4 - 5, and it's very recognizably 16mm film.

Videotape does not have film grain because it records a purely electronic signal without the chemical reactions for grain.

(Most modern TV and film is shot with digital cameras, and in most cases, film grain is added afterwards to mimic the texture of chemical film, and it adds a bit of texture while being less perceptible because it's uniform and consistent as opposed to variable to the image content. And on streaming, digital files are encoded to smooth out most of the grain (reducing file size) and uniform grain is overlaid during playback.)

Grain is not as visible on episodes 102 - 109 due to the episodes having been stored on low resolution analog videotape that didn't maintain even an SD version of the original film and its grainy properties. However, 102 to 109 were also clearly shot on film: while they lack visible film grain, they have all the signs of film-to-tape conversion.

They have judder -- uneven motion -- in fast moving scenes. They also have interlacing artifacts: horizontal lines during motion and jagged edges on straight lines like chains, fences, poles and shelves. This is the result of the film to tape telecine process where the 24fps frame rate format of film was converted to the TV broadcast 30fps videotape.

Videotape would not have judder or interlacing artifacts; those are exclusively the result of film to tape telecine conversion.

Also, videotape has a very flat colour range and the dynamic range of SLIDERS, even in those beige rooms of Seasons 4 - 5, is beyond what videotape could record.

If there were ever any debate about whether or not SLIDERS was shot on film, it was likely due to people being misinformed about and/or misunderstanding TV editing. The pilot was shot and edited on film as a big budget TV movie to sell a subsequent series, and then it was transferred to high grade videotape with 420 lines of resolution, used for review and sales and broadcast. However, the following episodes of the show were shot on film and then transferred to videotape for post production.

Unlike film, videotape offered linear editing, immediate playback, and needed no chemical processing, providing a faster turnaround time essential for TV production. The show seems to have used standard but low resolution analog videotape format for episodes 102 to 109 which is why those episodes are blurrier.

Low resolution videotape was cheaper and, for standard definition 480i broadcast and CRT viewing, the viewer couldn't tell that it was blurrier, so it didn't matter. Only when the DVDs were played on a mid-2000s HDTV did the poor video quality become apparent.

In Season 2, there was clearly a switch to high resolution digital videotape, meaning we go from "Luck of the Draw"'s fuzziness to "Into the Mystic" looking sharper with another increase in sharpness for Season 3 and a slightly more grainy look for Seasons 4 - 5. Digital videotape with 540 lines of resolution became the affordable industry standard during the long production gap between "Luck of the Draw" and "Into The Mystic", with improvement each year in the film to digital tape telecine process.

If fans were ever debating whether or not SLIDERS was film or videotape, it's likely because SLIDERS was shot on film and, aside from the pilot, transferred to videotape for editing and special effects, and stored on videotape for broadcast and later digitized from videotape to DVD. Fans were likely confused by production references to videotape suites for editing and effects. In addition, there were isolated B-roll sequences (sports footage, etc,) that were recorded on videotape, but it's maybe 2 percent of the show.

SLIDERS on DVD has film grain and all the artifacts of a film to tape conversion: judder and interlacing artifacts. If shot on videotape, there would be neither grain nor judder nor artifacts. You don't need to believe you're right about this matter; you're making a statement of fact and you are correct.

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I used to be an obsessive DVD collector. I don't collect physical media much now, but I have kept my DVD (yes, standard definition DVD) collection.

I once spent crazy money on a complete set of DANGER MAN, half of which I gave away to my father (he loves the American episodes). There came a point when I had to ask myself whether or not I would ever actually rewatch any of these discs, and each time I asked myself that, I found myself more often than not deciding against the purchase.

I was a huge fan of EARLY EDITION and didn't realize a full series DVD release was out! Thanks for mentioning that, I will snap that up.

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I'm super-confused about movie ticket prices where you live. Alamo Drafthouse seemed to be charging $9.73 USD for regular admission but AMC was charging $12 USD for regular admission. I'm probably looking at the wrong pages. How much is the average movie ticket?

It looks like AMC Stubs would charge you $20 a month and allows you to see three movies a week, which means it could be worthwhile if you're someone who sees at least two movies a month. However, $20 a month, even for three movies a week, is a much bigger fee than $8 a month for one movie a month. https://www.moneydigest.com/1548760/amc … rth-price/

Tickets here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada tend to be about $15 USD if you buy them online (factoring in an online booking fee), and about $12 USD if bought in person, but who's going to do that? It's slow and it's reserved seating, so if you go to the theatre just in time for the show, all the good seats are probably gone (unless you're watching THE CROW in 2024, nobody wants to see it).

$15 USD for one movie as well as having to physically go to the theatre and park and enter and see it on their schedule makes me feel like they should be paying me for my time. I imagine a lot of people feel that way and elect to stay home and watch Netflix. $8 USD, however, feels like a reasonable price.

Jim_Hall wrote:
ireactions wrote:

Thanks for sharing that, but the Pilot is not really an effective test case. The pilot episode was edited either on film or high resolution analog videotape. It already looked sharp and crisp because it was not subject to the blurriness and field mismatching issues of episodes 1.02 - 1.08 being on low resolution tape. Upscaling the pilot episode is shooting fish in a barrel for any upscaler whether AI or a simple bicubic scaler. A real test case would be a scene from the unusually hazy "Last Days" or "Luck of the Draw" with its blurriness and film judder.

I just tried a Luck of the Draw clip. It's pretty bad. One thing about Video AI is it has helped me notice things I never had. Objects, people in the distance, etc. I'll go to my grave believing everything was shot on film, minus the special effects.

I don't think the analog videotape stored episodes of SLIDERS are going to be effective for image sharpening. Any restoration for those episodes likely has to be via generating new image frames by redrawing them entirely rather than upscaling them.

I don't know why you need to go to your grave believing it was shot on film. Of course it was shot on film. If it were shot on videotape, there would be no field mismatches from the telecining and frame conversion and no film judder. I don't think SLIDERS being shot on film is any kind of controversial conspiracy theory.

Thanks for sharing that, but the Pilot is not really an effective test case. The pilot episode was edited either on film or high resolution analog videotape. It already looked sharp and crisp because it was not subject to the blurriness and field mismatching issues of episodes 1.02 - 1.08 being on low resolution tape. Upscaling the pilot episode is shooting fish in a barrel for any upscaler whether AI or a simple bicubic scaler. A real test case would be a scene from the unusually hazy "Last Days" or "Luck of the Draw" with its blurriness and film judder.

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I enjoyed THE HUNGER GAMES novel trilogy and the first film was fine, but after that... I'd already been through the experience in prose and didn't feel inclined to relive it in movie theatres. But I'm sure the movies are fine.

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I went to see THE CROW (2024) in movie theatres, which I cannot recommend. In fact, I don't consider most movies worth the $15 USD or so ticket price (with online booking fee). However, the main cinema chain in my city is now offering a subscription: about $8 USD a month for one prepaid movie ticket. An upcharge of $2.50 for 3D and $4 for IMAX. All subsequent tickets for the month are charged at the $8 starting rate.

At that price, I am inclined to see at least one movie a month and considered $8 a fair price for the gleeful incompetence of the new CROW movie. And then I found myself looking at upcoming theatrical releases: THE SUBSTANCE with Demi Moore, MY OLD ASS with Aubrey Plaza, NEVER LET GO with Hallie Berry, all coming out September, none of which I would pay $15 to see, all of which are worth $8 each to me.

I assume that this is a good deal for the cineplex who now get a guaranteed $96 out of me a year and potentially more if there is more than one movie I'm interested in that month and don't feel as resistant to the price.

How have the results been? I won't have time to try it until my EMPIRE cleanup is done.

I am not very optimistic that anything can clean up episodes that were transferred to low resolution analog videotape, but I'm always ready to change my mind.

I can't tell if your results are any good. I can't fullscreen the Instagram video. But I hope you're happy with it and I could certainly take another run at it after I finish my AI EMPIRE STRIKES BACK cleanup in a few days.

The fan-produced 4K80 release is now out on specialist fan preservation sites. It's a 4K digital scan of the theatrical cut of EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, made from a 35mm print and a 16mm print, cleaned up by fans to assemble the best versions of both prints and address the faded colour and recreate how it looked in cinemas in 1980.  https://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k80/

I've looked at the first version and it looks just like the non-special VHS version I remember in the 90s, authentic but dirty and with grain so high in some scenes it's like static baked into the frame. Other scenes have a natural level of grain. It looks like a medium quality 720p image (because a theatrical film print is several generations removed from the original negative).

While this is a theatrical print scan, the movie did not actually look this grainy in movie theatres in 1980. I wasn't there in 1980, but I know that the movie theatres of the era created a softer film image due to the film protector light being scattered when passing through film and then impacting the screen. This would have added a sheen that diminished the grain. In contrast, modern backlit displays on home HDTVs form a pixel-based image with black borders around each pixel that have the result of sharpening any and all grain.

I think 4K80 would be releasable on Disney+ if the video were downscaled to a sharper 1080p image and then run through AI grain filtering to tone down the grain. Then an AI algorithm could add a modest amount of grain back to each shot. The entire movie would then have a consistent level of AI-overlaid but natural looking film grain. If it's consistent, it's easy to get used to whereas the noise becomes distracting if some scenes look static-coated and others look clear.

Admittedly, for streaming services, grain is the first thing to be removed from digital files and then a grain texture is added back on during playback as an overlay.

I've downscaled the file to 1080p and I'm going to run it through Topaz AI grain refinement just to get the grain consistent. Then I will pass it along to my niece as the version of EMPIRE that her father probably saw in theatres. I had previously passed along to her a version of the DESPECIALIZED EDTION for EMPIRE (a fan-created hybrid of blu-ray footage and upscaled DVDs).

DESPECIALIZED looked okay at 720p, but on modern 4K TVs, it was looking very low-resolution for a lot of the DVD-sourced footage. I ran it through a Topaz AI upscale to boost it to a somewhat sharper 1080p, but 4K80 will look more consistent. Where DESPECIALIZED looks super-sharp in the blu-ray sourced scenes and slightly blurry in the DVD-sourced scenes, 4K80 looks moderately sharp throughout the entire film and the AI cleanup will also make it moderately grainy throughout as well. That said, I'm sure the film editors at Disney could do an even better job by going at it shot by shot.

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I've been trying to find the right metaphor for the argument where certain individuals claim that masks don't filter viruses because they (supposedly) read mask studies where participants self-reported on whether or not they wore masks and got sick. These studies are where the mask-wearing participants, by their own admission, did not wear masks consistently.

To me, citing self-reported mask wearing studies as 'evidence' that masks don't work is like saying computers don't compute because a lot of people have trouble plugging them in.

Or like saying planes don't fly because a lot of people don't have pilot's licenses.

Or like saying smoke detectors don't detect smoke because people forget to replace the battery.

Or like saying bookshelves don't assemble because people lose the nuts and bolts.

Or like saying fire extinguishers don't extinguish because people forget to refill and repressurize them.

Or like saying phones don't take photos because people can't find the camera app.

Or like saying beds don't work because people suffer from insomnia.

People may fail to use equipment as per standard operating procedures. They may fail to use the equipment at all, but that is a human failure, not a failure of the equipment and the basic principles behind the equipment.

A mask wearing study is a study of whether or not people wear masks consistently, not whether or not masks work.

My hope is to get this metaphor down to two sentences with further research and development, and I will be assembling a committee of 12 and retaining a public relations firm to compress this further.

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The sabotage of Georgia's process for vote counting is scaring me.
https://www.salon.com/2024/08/31/organi … ing-chaos/

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I was referring to Kamala by surname too, but she rebranded Biden's campaign with her given name, and then I read this article:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/1 … g-00173064

People who have long known Harris say she sees using her first name as a way to be informal with voters and constituents — to send a message that she’s working for them, that they should hold her accountable.

"... when she was talking directly to voters, or constituents, she would usually say, ‘Just call me Kamala,’” said a person who worked with Harris while she was attorney general, granted anonymity to speak candidly about their experiences with the vice president. “I think that was a way to say like, you’re the boss. I’m working for you.”

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The polls cannot be trusted. They couldn't be trusted when Biden was spiraling because slanted Republican polls were throwing off the averages, making a very close election seem like Trump was in the lead. They can't be trusted now because the enthusiasm of Kamala Harris reception and campaign means Democrats are more inclined to respond to polls and Trump supporters are less inclined to do so.

The likely situation is that the race remains close and competitive, and Democratic pollsters have warned that Kamala (as she prefers voters call her) has a lot of work to do.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/2 … s-00176065

That said, Trump clearly thinks he's losing. He's given up on impactful campaign events. He's stopped trying to build a coalition. His hope is to overturn or stall election results in court and with supporters in electoral offices.

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My review on the "Perihelion" novel was featured in the X-Cast podcast! In the mailbag section, podcasters AJ Black and Carl Sweeney share various comments from different fans. Then AJ Black says at 1:05:17:

"Ibrahim had a really brilliant review, but it's a really long review, so I am not going to read that out."

Faint praise, but it resounds in my ears.

:-D

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

ireactions - You did ask for a representative. The other James above that you mention is not a government rep. smile Otherwise I probably would have included who you did.

Semantics, I know...oh, well...

I think you are confused. The James Carville Jr. you mentioned and quoted is the same person I quoted. Carville Jr. is not a Republican. However, Carville Jr. is also strongly opposed to the social justice focus of a number of Democrats, in particular Bernie Sanders.

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Gina Carano is a nutjob. Studios have a moral obligation to not have transphobic anti-vaxxers using the platform of studio projects to espouse and disseminate bigotry and false health information. When people complain about consequences for transphobic comments or fake health information, they're complaining about being held responsible for incredibly harmful behaviour.

I am a big fan of her work especially on the movie HAYWIRE but even my adoration for Gina Carano isn't going to blind me to what she is: a delusional bigot whom Disney would no longer supply a platform. No one is entitled to international stardom to perpetuate prejudice and to tell people not to protect themselves from COVID-19.

James Carville Jr. is a retired Democratic strategist and... a mixed bag. He's had ridiculous comments, claiming that women are to blame for the struggles of present day Democrats when maybe, just maybe, the problem was the tired white dude at the top of the party. (Maybe. I'm still thinking about that.)

Carville's argument is: the Electoral College means that a small amount of American voters ultimate determine who wins the White House, the Senate and the House -- and campaigns focused on "woke left" voters don't acquire the numbers needed to win in the unbalanced political system of America.

The Black Lives Matter protests were often met with police officers attacking protestors to trigger fights to justify arrests, or firing upon vehicles just passing by. But the protests were also just really destructive; burning down police precincts strikes me as insane no matter what issues one has with police.

The situation in Israel and Gaza is incredibly difficult and I find that anyone saying they stand with Isreal or Palestine is lacking in nuance and simply picking a brand. Grizzlor highlighted the ignorant lunacy of the "Gays for Palestine" banners when homosexuality is criminalized in Gaza. The October 2023 attack on Israel was horrific. The support for Israel's attacks on civilians is deranged.

The Biden presidency is in an impossible situation, funding and supplying Israel because it gives them a seat at the table for ceasefire negotiations, and Biden has called Benjamin Netanyahu an "asshole" for this genocide in which Biden is resistantly complicit. There are no easy answers, no good solutions, and I would suggest a civilians-centric message over supporting one side or the other.

The whole Bud beer promotion is absurd and ridiculous on every level. People are absurd and ridiculous to criticize Anheuser-Busch for marketing their beer with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney like diversity is to be shamed. Anheuser-Busch is absurd and ridiculous for not recognizing that a massive portion of their sales come from transphobic individuals and the loss of their custom would affect their sales.

Anheuser-Busch was further ridiculous in cutting ties with Dylan Mulvaney which led to the LGTBTQ boycotting Anheuser-Busch, which meant Anheuser-Busch was now boycotted by both bigots and allies on both sides. America is absurd and ridiculous for being a country where a transgender woman holding a beer on social media is some sort of crisis.

Grizzlor seems to be implying that diversity needs to be curtailed, that transphobia needs to be respected, and that consequences for sexual harassment and falsehood (which he describes as cancel culture) need to be suspended. That sounds insane and ridiculous to me, so perhaps I'm misreading him.

Perhaps he is saying that Anheuser-Busch wandered into a fight they were not equipped to win if the goal was to sell beer to everyone including the transphobic.

Perhaps he is saying: the devotedly woke-left demographic is too narrow a coalition to win Electoral College victories where a handful of votes can make all the difference.

Perhaps he is saying that, fairly or unfairly, Democrats can't win by campaigning on social justice ideology alone.

Perhaps he is saying that Democrats need votes from aggrieved white men, from people who don't subscribe wholeheartedly to Black Lives Matter, from people who get weirdly triggered when a transgender woman holds a beer on social media.

He wouldn't be wrong; Democrats need those voters too.

James Carville Jr. wrote:

Do we want to be an ideological cult or do we want to have a majoritarian instinct to be a majority party?

The urban core is not gonna get it done. What we need is power! Do you understand? That’s what this is about.

The fate of the world depends on the Democrats getting their shit together and winning in November. We have to beat Trump. The Republicans have destroyed their party and turned it into a personality cult, but if anyone thinks they can’t win, they’re out of their damn minds.

You’re not going to change the turnout model. It’s never been done and it’s not going to be done.  Eighteen percent of the country elects more than half of our senators. That’s the deal, fair or not.

The party has to have a majoritarian instinct. We’ve got to be skilled enough to excite our most important voters, African Americans, to get our own new exciting demographic out, these college-educated women, and also to cut into the margins in the more rural and small-town parts of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, places like that.

The purpose of a political party is to acquire power. All right? Without power, nothing matters. It means building coalitions to win elections. It means sometimes having to sit back and listen to what people think and framing your message accordingly.

We can’t do anything for anyone if we don’t start there and then acquire more power. Without power, you have nothing. You just have talking points.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21172111/ ..... podcast
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics .. s-carville
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/20 .. cal-cult/

I'm sorry it wasn't good for Grizzlor. I'd be curious to know what Slider_Quinn21 thought and if he feels the series is incomplete now cancelled.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

To me, the Jedi thought they were the best person for every job, but that wasn't really the reason they fell.  I think the reason they fell was that they underestimated Sidious.  They knew about him in the Phantom Menace and, unless I'm missing something, never really looked for him.  They would go after him if there was an opportunity, but I would think finding Sidious would've been their top priority.  Mace Windu and a group of Jedi Knights should've been out in the galaxy looking for him.

I get that he's hiding and it would be difficult to find him.  But it doesn't seem like the Jedi even tried.  Sidious had a great plan, and he executed it.  I don't know if any of the issues that Luke or Rey or even Dooku had with the Jedi would've fixed that.

I've sometimes wondered if STAR WARS will pull a bit of a retcon on the prequel-Jedi the way ENTERPRISE featured Vulcans as unpleasant, dour, miserable, unsupportive, and kind of useless, declaring the superiority and supremacy of their logic and increasingly isolationist attitudes-- only for a new showrunner in the fourth season to reveal that the Vulcans of Seasons 1 - 3 had been dealing with generational trauma and a pandemic with a mentally transmitted disease.

The situational, cultural and political strife had been worsened by how the original teachings of Surak, the Vulcan philosopher whose teachings of logic over emotion became the driving force of Vulcan society, had been distorted and misunderstood due to the loss of his guiding principle of infinite diversity in infinite combinations, a key tenet that balances logic with compassion and respect for all living things and cultures even if they do not devote themselves to logic.

Captain Archer restores Surak's full teachings to Vulcan society, setting the path for the Vulcans to become the open-minded and caring but emotionally aloof friends of the original STAR TREK series. I wonder if the Rey movie can maybe delve into how the failed, useless Jedi of the prequels were operating on a distorted foundation and rediscover the actual origins of the Jedi and the true role they can play in the galaxy.

My personal opinion on why the Jedi failed from an in-universe perspective: the Old Republic era Council and Luke's Jedi school were way too militarized. When you teach people that the Force is all about hacking and slashing away at armies to win wars, it creates a breeding ground for dark side tendencies because combat-first emphasizes power and dominance over compassion and empathy.

Ideally, Jedi training would be about Force sensitivity and applying that Force sensitivity to a profession or passion which does not have to be combat. In AIRBENDER, not every earth/fire/air/earth bender is a soldier: some of them run restaurants or build dams or transport or plumbing. The Jedi Council and Luke's approach to Jedi was to create supersoldiers, never creating any super-therapists or super-construction workers or super-doctors.

I recognize that as the franchise is called STAR WARS, screenwriters and directors will gravitate to combat, but if STAR WARS wants to present the Jedi as competent, then one path may be that the Jedi become less of an army and portrayed as an unintrusive religion where Jedi apply the Force in many areas of life and fighting is just one profession among many for Force users and maybe the term Jedi is broadened so it's not just warriors.

Rian Johnson offered a bit of a path to that in THE LAST JEDI: "The Force does not belong to the Jedi. To say that if the Jedi die, the light dies -- it's vanity, can't you feel that?" I might suggest we say that the Force does not belong to Jedi soldiers.

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The young female-led, almost nonstop, social media cancel police from the left is completely un-American

Can you identify any representatives of this subgroup of Democrats you're highlighting and who they've cancelled over what? Because without clarification, this just comes off as a remark from someone who is scared of girls and young people and thinks girls and women are not Americans which I'm sure is not your intention.

The rest seems like reasonable opinion. I mean... it is going to be a close election.

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The Bulwark: Trump will probably lose.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-is-g … e-probably

They point out that Trump has given up on trying to win more votes. His team is focused on winning the Electoral College, winning specific areas by a handful of votes, overturning specific areas where they lost in court. It's a narrow play and a lousy strategy. They emphasize that Trump will probably lose, but of course can't guarantee it.

I'm not sure.

One thing that occurred to me: a lot of Lucas' work in the 1990s was trying to make money. Lucasarts. ILM. The re-releases of the trilogy. The Special Editions. The reason Lucas did all that: he was wounded both emotionally and financially by how Marcia Lucas divorced him and took half his money. Lucas did not feel Marcia had done half the work. He was trying to rebuild the half of his fortune that he had lost to his ex-wife.

I would venture to say she did a vital quarter as his creative partner and another quarter as his long-suffering wife. The Jedi falling prey to emotional connections (ugh, right?) and being devastated by someone on the inside who turned against them is also an accidental self-portrait of how Lucas felt betrayed by his wife who left him half of who he was before both financially and creatively. That surprising betrayal (for Lucas) is represented in how he made the Jedi inept.

I haven't really been in the mood to watch STAR WARS on TV, but I'm sorry that any show gets cancelled. The reviews for THE ACOLYTE on Den of Geek, a review site I enjoy, were poor to middling.

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The Jedi being incompetent failures didn't originate in the Disney era, but in the prequel era, and George Lucas is absolutely responsible for that. I'm not sure if Lucas' authorial intent was to present them so, but note that in THE PHANTOM MENACE, Qui-Gon Jinn doesn't think it's his job to free slaves; in ATTACK OF THE CLONES, the Jedi somehow miss the Republic becoming a fascist empire and Anakin didn't bother to free his enslaved mother for at least a decade (and he still left the slave trade intact). In REVENGE OF THE SITH, Anakin becomes evil because... something or other about how he loved his wife and Jedi aren't supposed to have feelings.

If Jedi can't free slaves, they are useless. I don't know if that's the take Lucas intended, but he wrote it and he filmed it.

In THE LAST JEDI, Luke notes: "Now that they're extinct, the Jedi are romanticized, deified. But if your strip away the myth and look at their deeds, the legacy of the Jedi is failure. Hypocrisy, hubris. At the height of their powers, they allowed Darth Sidious to rise, create the Empire, and wipe them out. It was a Jedi Master who was responsible for the training and creation of Darth Vader." He's not wrong.

The entire arc seems subconscious on Lucas' part: the great love of Lucas' life was Marcia Lou Griffin, whom he met in film school and adored and married. She was a film editor and script consultant; Lucas was a good director and awkward screenwriter, and STAR WARS came alive with Marcia (and uncredited screenwriters Gloria and Willard Hyuck) adding life and joy to Lucas' plot and setpieces.

Shortly before THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, Lucas became obsessed with building up his own film studio and business. Lucas' devotion to Skywalker Ranch, Industrial Light and Magic, THX, Skywalker Sound while producing EMPIRE, RETURN OF THE JEDI and the Indiana Jones movies created entire industries -- but his interaction with his wife became near non-existent, and he dismissed her pleas that they spend more time together.

Despite this, Lucas claims he was shocked when Marcia told him she wanted a divorce and that she had fallen in love with someone else... and he responded by asking Marcia to wait until after the release of RETURN before proceeding with the divorce.

After Marcia left him, Lucas went on a long hiatus from filmmaking, obsessing over filmmaking technology over actually making films. THE PHANTOM MENACE is a pretty clear display of how Lucas creates when his ex-wife isn't there as a creative partner. ATTACK OF THE CLONES and REVENGE OF THE SITH show Anakin Skywalker foolishly daring to fall in love and destroyed by having feelings at which point he becomes a technological monster.

Lucas portrays Jedi in the prequels as distant, disengaged, oblivious, defeated by emotions, betrayed by romance, and the most prominent Jedi becomes a destroyed man in a shell of sci-fi armour. That strikes me as an accidental yet incredibly telling self-portrait.

Who would the Jedi be if Lucas had decided to drop THX and ILM from his repertoire and devote that time to his marriage, and if he'd written the prequels with Marcia Lucas as his creative partner and the heart of STAR WARS?

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Okay, that's clearly a facetious remark.

BTW, despite my hatred of black women (sarcastic claim) I found the best, shorter speech of that night to have come from Texas representative Jasmine Crockett, who went viral for putting Marjorie Taylor Green in her place during a hearing (admiration for a black woman).

While I have had as many disagreements with Grizzlor as you, if not more, surely we don't need to blatantly misrepresent his statements to disagree with him.

QuinnSlidr, I am going to respectfully ask you to take a 48 hour break and step back from this. Send me an email if you want to talk.

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Hillary Clinton is an extremely controversial figure even among Democrats especially with her voting record on war and her fervent support of Wall Street and big banks. Anyone should be allowed to question her supposed commitment to democracy without being attacked.

Grizzlor is allowed to find speeches boring regardless of who is delivering them; that in itself is not racist or sexist. I think to call it that without more evidence is an escalation and a leap. I mean, nobody called you or me racist for hoping President Biden would stay in the race and not feeling ready for the very qualified PoC Kamala Harris to take the lead.

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I like to use AI to sort out my thoughts, ideas, arguments and opinions. I often use AI to organize or correct my reasoning or logic. While I used to use Copilot a lot, lately, I've been using Google Gemini.

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I don't think every show needs to run 100 episodes -- but every TV series should have at least 100 stories to tell or it's not a TV series. If a show can only last three seasons, it shouldn't be a show, at least not to me. (Mini serieses, I think of as a separate category.) To say LOST should only have run three seasons would be, to me, an indictment of LOST as a TV show. I think it probably had around five years in it, and they seem to have done well enough with six seasons if Slider_Quinn21 enjoyed it.

I wonder what Slider_Quinn21 thought of the DVD epilogue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMjPzV2RvO8

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Grizzlor wrote:

Why is Hilary Clinton STILL given prime time?

QuinnSlidr wrote to Grizzlor: Hillary nailed it with her incredible speech, you anti-Hillary biased shill. If you don't like dems, perhaps republicans are more your thing?

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Hillary Clinton is a public figure, and Grizzlor has every right to be critical of her.

I know I've had issues with Grizzlor in the past, but he has every right to speak critically of any politician or public figure, as do you. He has every right to question Hillary Clinton's presence just as you had every right to call her speech incredible.

QuinnSlidr wrote:

If it weren't for the electoral college FRAUD in 2016, she would have been president. Not that horrible excuse of a human being.

I understand that the electoral college is unfair, and I suppose I can see it as a form of procedural fraud to subvert the popular vote -- but the implication of calling it fraud without qualification is to call it illegal... and it isn't. It's the system we have. It isn't fair, but it isn't fraud in the form of criminal deception, which is the conventional definition of "fraud".

I recognize that it is outrageous, but just because you and I despise something does not make it fraud in legal terms. We also shouldn't conflate the influence of foreign powers in 2016 with actual election fraud when Democrats from Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton herself have denied that the elections were fraudulent. We don't get to cry fraud just because we lost.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

No personal attacks, guys.

Thank you for saying that. Sorry I wasn't here sooner. My favourite actress has been ill. I've been busy.

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I would say: my criteria for a favourite show is a highly personal list of attributes and others may disagree. I formed the list by looking at how LOST is Slider_Quinn21's favourite show. LOST was, judging from Slider_Quinn21's posts, a good product. It lasted long enough to become a part of his life; it didn't degrade or devolve to the point where it couldn't tell its stories or complete its narrative goals; it had a conclusion.

I recall watching LOST up to the point when Jack returns to the island and is met by Jin, at which point, I was looking for something more life-affirming out of TV shows and less... unnerving.

While I didn't watch LOST past Jack's return to the Island, it might be argued: LOST was an ensemble show touching on various lives and rotating through them, and LOST was about unknowable mysteries that might have no answer. Therefore, dropping or losing characters, blind alleys, and an emphasis on characterization over mystery is not necessarily the show becoming subfunctional/dysfunctional but rather an avoidable part of exploring its core themes, some less rewarding than others.

I can't speak to this definitively, but around the point I stopped watching LOST, I did feel that the mysteries of the Island would not become more meaningful if we learned that it's the site of a crashed alien spaceship that warps time and space and manifests anomalies based on the internal conflicts of the humans in proximity. That strikes me as reducing the unknowable to sci-fi technobabble terms, when the show does better by using the paranormal nature of the island to illustrate the character conflicts -- while leaving the exact means of manifestation unknown.

That said, isn't there some sort of DVD/Blu-ray short film that 'explains' 'everything'? Knowing LOST, I assume the explanations are as confounding as the mysteries.
https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/lost-epilo … -questions

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I think, for me, ONCE UPON A TIME is my equivalent of LOST: a complex set of arcs and plots alternating between flashbacks and present day scenes, except ONCE UPON A TIME had the benefit of its mythology -- Disney versions of fairy tales -- already being established long before the show premiered. In contrast, LOST had to create its own mythology and had a much longer ladder to climb. I think ONCE UPON A TIME's whimsical, gentle, sweet tone proved a better match to my tastes and longings and insecurities and neuroses than LOST.

At the end of the day, what I want out of TV (and life) is BROOKLYN NINE-NINE: lighthearted hijinks from highly competent people working to make the world a little nicer one day at a time. (See also: PARKS AND RECREATION, ANIMAL CONTROL, THE ORVILLE.)

My niece would also point out that I have an obsession with TV shows about troubled women fighting crime (WYNONNA EARP, THE BLACKLIST, BLINDSPOT, CORONER, AGENT CARTER), but aside from WYNONNA EARP, I would have to call each one of them flawed favourites. I would have a separate category for flawed favourites, some of which are only flawed in minor ways and some which are catastrophic disasters. (I need to rewatch WYNONNA EARP to decide if it is a favourite.)

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Why do I say a show needs to last four years to qualify as a favourite show? I think four years is the point where the show has become a part of my life. The Arrowverse was a part of my life. At three years, I'm still thinking that the show is a temporary situation; at four years, it feels long-term.

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I didn't think about THE SIMPSONS, or SOUTH PARK, but I guess I think of those as being in a class of their own, separate from live action TV shows.

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Jim_Hall on Twitter asked Slideheads on Twitter what their favourite show of all time would be if it were not SLIDERS. I suppose SLIDERS is the TV show I think about most. But it isn't actually good. For a show to be my favourite, I would need to say that it:

(a) Was a professional, enjoyable product throughout
(b) Had a decent run of at least four seasons
(c) Had no major shifts in production that made the series subfunctional or outright dysfunctional
(d) Had a series finale that served as a satisfying conclusion

Very, very few shows meet these requirements for me to consider it a favourite. We can dispense with short-term wonders like EERIE INDIANA or WONDERFALLS. But even shows I really like struggled.

ONCE UPON A TIME was, on the whole, a really enjoyable, well-written, wonderfully produced, beautifully acted show -- but for some weird reason, the network renewed it for a seventh season even though all the cast contracts had expired after six, and the show had a baffling final year with new and uninspired characters.

BLINDSPOT and FRINGE were really great shows, but both shows were hit with budget cuts in their fifth and final seasons that truncated some of their plans, and while I enjoyed them, they lost a degree of functionality in their storytelling platforms.

I never finished LOST, but Slider_Quinn21 might say it meets all the conditions. I really liked DEEP SPACE NINE, but the finale was weirdly haphazard and inert due to the struggle to edit too much content into a relatively short running length, so it fails to meet the requirement of a strong series finale. SMALLVILLE was very badly written for too many seasons and its series finale was comically incompetent.

PARKS AND RECREATION was fantastic, but it had an awkward first season and that throws off the average for considering it an enjoyable, professional product on the whole. COMMUNITY had that awkward fourth season. DOCTOR WHO is really a different show each time there's a different showrunner, and I guess I would call the Steven Moffat era my favourite.

But on the whole, the only show I watched in full that was a professional, enjoyable product throughout; had a run of at least four seasons; didn't become subfunctional; and had a satisfying series finale is BROOKLYN NINE NINE.

So... I guess BROOKLYN NINE NINE is my favourite show. I honestly thought it would be FRINGE or ONCE UPON A TIME. I never thought I'd end up choosing the low stakes workplace comedy cop show as my favourite show, but here we are.

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Well, as the article notes: AI is pretty overhyped. The artificial intelligence we have now isn't actually that intelligent, its outputs are inaccurate and unreliable and unstable, its capabilities are exaggerated, its use is limited, its applications are narrow, its productivity increases are small, it's hitting a plateau of advancement, it's dependent on human generated data that can be cut off.
https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-mon … telligence

The AI in our upscaling programs might be AI in terms of matching the algorithm to the image or video, but the actual algorithms for each element or texture in the image strike me as human made and human tested. AI still can't wrangle a decent version of the Season 1 episodes of SLIDERS.

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Why AI is not that impressive:
https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-mon … telligence

Even that AI video of muppets -- well, AI didn't design the muppets, it mimicked the human designs. It didn't really write a song, it just recombined existing songs. It's just reiterating work humans made first, and while AI might speed up workflow, it's hardly creating anything.