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pilight wrote:

It's never clear what the Sliders are fighting for, only what they fight against.  We don't know what they want these worlds to look like, only that they want them to be different from what they are.  Often the reasons for resisting the status quo are selfish, the world is preventing them from sliding or doing something else they want to do.  They need the prime directive or "truth, justice, and the American way" or some other thing that defines their objectives.

Why do they need a prime directive? Do they need one to be declared as superheroes or just to be heroic?

The idea that survival is in some way selfish is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read; is it selfish to eat or breath or drink water or disinfect your hands or take medication or work? Regardless of whether the sliders were serving themselves, they never based their survival by preying on others; the idea that not dying is somehow an inconsiderate act is so lunatic and peculiar I don't even know what this conversation is about anymore other than you disliking the idea of SLIDERS as superheroes.

The sliders were regularly shown in the first two seasons to be deeply concerned with the people they met. The sliders cared about the Revolution in the Pilot. Arturo, despite his ego, cared about the men of "The Weaker Sex." Rembrandt cared about Caroline in "Last Days" and Arturo tried to protect the world from the atom bomb. Quinn cared about Coach Almquist in "Eggheads," Wade cared about Ryan in "Luck of the Draw." And that's just Season 1.

Furthermore, the sliders were clearly shown to represent the impact of new and unfamiliar ideas on enclosed systems of authoritarianism, making the sliders anarchic figures of revolution. They took down the monarchy and the CDC, scored wins against despotic communism, saw the truth of even a presumably intellectualist Earth and saved the world from an asteroid. The fact that they saved themselves too hardly diminishes their achievements. The idea that the sliders are not heroes is completely at odds with what is in scripts and performances and onscreen; with that approach, you might as well be talking about a completely different television show.

Were the sliders often portrayed as villains? Unquestionably -- but that had almost nothing to do with the true nature of the sliders and more to do with the incompetence of the writers. It was never deliberate. There's a mountain of heroic deeds here. To claim the sliders aren't superheroes is one thing, but to say they're not heroic is to either be ignorant of SLIDERS or deliberately dismissive of its content.

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On William: the Season 10 comics were, originally, going to feature William as a villain with telekinetic and telepathic powers. Carter, in his consulting capacity with the comics, vetoed this. He said he had plans for William and making him a villain didn't fit those plans. This was part of why the Season 10 writer thought his material would be canon, and that was the intention -- until "My Struggle" declaring that there is no alien conspiracy made the comics and the Revival completely at odds.

So, there are plans? That said, I think it's obvious that planning is not and never has been one of THE X-FILES' strengths.

As for Informant's issueI wonder if part of the problem is the messed up episode order. Had the episodes aired as intended, "Home Again" would be episode 2 and Scully's mother dying and referring to William would have been the start of bringing up Scully's agony. After a hiatus for episode 3 and who knows what for episode 4, "Founder's Mutation" would have been episode 5 where we see a different take on the William issue, seeing the imagined joy and warmth in Mulder and Scully's fantasies of their son.

Instead, the fantasies were the introduction to the arc and then the follow-up was reiterating the pain when the reiteration had been meant as a reintroduction.

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I think the sliders costumes were pretty distinctive; they all had stand-out sets of clothes and hairstyles that made them recognizable from any angle. Being nomads in the multiverse also gave them a superpower; as Dan Kurtzke pointed out in his "Young and the Relentless" podcast, the sliders can revolt against the authorities, give up their life's savings, speak the truth to power and bring it crashing down -- because once they leave, they'll never be seen again and they can do whatever they want without consequence or repercussions, a power well beyond ordinary people. That is their "increased capacity to act and exert power and demonstrate agency."

And if you don't think all the sliders having guiding philosophies and are benevolent individuals, I don't know what show you've been watching! SLIDERS is the show where the characters stumble into dystopians and proceed to bring the ruling class to its knees and often within 46 minutes. SLIDERS is the show where the characters have the incomprehensible superpower of getting hired into jobs with no social security numbers or work histories.

I don't know why you even watch this show if you think the SLIDERS stand for nothing. If you think the sliders don't work as superheroes because they're not costumed and caped vigilantes, that's fine, but in arguing that no one could or should see them as superheroes, you seem compelled to tear the series down just to put your personal view of it above another.

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One moment of similarity -- watching Fox Mulder experience a midlife crisis on THE X-FILES made me feel really pleased that I gave Quinn his own midlife crisis, albeit one of a different nature. Matt joked that I should sue Ten Thirteen and FOX for stealing my idea and remarked that Jerry and David Duchovny played basketball together in the Vancouver years. I have a certain (meaningless and groundless) pride in knowing that I gave Quinn Mallory his midlife crisis before Chris Carter gave Mulder one too.

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Another pretty solid episode of THE X-FILES, and one that neatly repairs something I always despised about this series -- I hated how the monsters of the week were never resolved, and I hated how there was often no personal stake for Mulder and Scully in the cases of the week. Here, that lack of resolution is compared to Scully's grief over how her mother's death leaves her with unanswered questions and the case of the week is matched against Mulder and Scully's loss of their son.

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I love SUPERGIRL. It's as flawed as THE FLASH, but it's earnest, heartfelt and it's clearly got a higher budget than THE FLASH and ARROW combined.

Last month...

LAURIE: "What the heck is that giant box?"
ME: "It's the Sci-Fi Channel's press files on SLIDERS! The guy who runs the Earth Prime site sent 'em to me to look them over. He hasn't found the time to do so in the 10 or 15 years he's had it."
HENRIETTA: "This is the gentleman from Pasedena? How much did that cost to ship?"
ME: "I paid him back his seventy bucks or so."
LAURIE: "You spent SEVENTY DOLLARS for the privilege of doing filing?"
ME: "I've never bought anything SLIDERS related except for the one DVD set for fourteen dollars. So, since 1995, I've spent eighty-four dollars on SLIDERS. How much have you spent on SUPERNATURAL?"
LAURIE: " .................. a lot."

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In a hilarious note, the boys erroneously refer to "Paradise Lost" as the episode with animal human hybrids -- but later, they agree that "A Current Affair" wasn't as bad as the "worm crap" episode! But all things being equal, Tom notes a mistake in my notes -- I thought Clinton Derricks Carroll was in "The Alternateville Horror"! I can't remember why I thought this. Maybe I thought I saw Clinton in "Alternateville" in the wideshot with all the doubles?

This is the first time in recorded history that I have made a mistake. Now I know how the rest of you must feel.

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I'm not really in favour of working class authors giving away free books. Until you sell the movie rights for a six figure sum, I'm afraid I'll have to continue buying your books.

I don't think of the sliders as superheroes in terms of them going on patrol or wearing costumes or getting in MAN OF STEEL type fight scenes -- or even ARROW type fight scenes. I just think that, consciously or not, they use superhero tropes. They come out of nowhere, descending upon people in bad situations. The sliders do what they can to help -- and then they disappear. The sliding concept, if controlled, allows for at-will teleportation and allows for certain FLASH-style action sequences, but you probably wouldn't have Arturo or Wade shooting heat vision or anything.

I imagine the sliders could visit the DC and Marvel universes. Personally, I always liked Temporal Flux's idea of the sliders visiting an Earth with a superhero, but the superheroes' powers are all clearly repurposed sliding technology.

Hi, guys. Courtesy of the Sci-Fi Channel, EP.COM has added 16 items to the Article Archive. Included are in-depth interviews with Jerry, Charlie, Cleavant, Sabrina and Kari. Sabrina reacts to the breeding camp, Kari explains why she was so awful to Sabrina and Charlie shares how he got started in acting.

http://earthprime.com/articles/new-arti … i-archives

In 2005, after SLIDERS was put out of our misery, the Sci-Fi Channel was clearing out its offices of unneeded items and quite inexplicably had press files containing every SLIDERS article they could find. Also inexplicably, they boxed up their files and shipped them to Matt Hutaff of EarthPrime.com because he, I dunno, asked nicely. Matt figured he'd get his assistant to scan and retype anything of value.

Ten years later, Matt, still without an assistant, was forced to consider that he had vastly overestimated his future success. However, with The Box taking up valuable space in his garage, Matt realized it was time to ship The Box to a trusted ally who would happily sort through the contents, categorize the clippings, press releases, internal documents, memos, letters and painstakingly retype every single article of value.

Since there was no one like that, he sent it to me some time before Christmas. I sped-read through the contents of The Box and selected 16 items worth sharing -- in-depth interviews with cast and crew and the odd editorial regarding the show. However, I sure as hell wasn't going to be retyping all that.

I ran the pages through a scanner, created a PDF and ran the documents through Adobe Acrobat's optical character recognition software. The results were unreadable gibberish, likely due to many of the articles being faded and low-res photocopies.

Every few days, I'd run the file through another OCR program, continuing to do this for about a month. This weekend, I finally found ABBYY Finereader, which was accurate enough to require only minor corrections here and there before posting. So hurrah!

What stood out to me was how journalist David Martindale seemed to write a lot of SLIDERS articles and interview Sabrina and Kari. It'd be neat to compare notes with him someday and ask if Sabrina or Kari ever had anything off the record to share.

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Comics re-uploaded. I lost my copies too, strangely. Ended up having to search some dark corners to find them.

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Tom and Cory remarked, when talking about "Please Press One," that they didn't get why Mallory is described in Bboard posts and newsgroup posts as a "con man" character. There is little to indicate this onscreen. This was something Robert Floyd and Bill Dial talked about in interviews; how Jerry's Quinn was a scientist and Rob's Quinn would be a street-smart criminal. Onscreen, this doesn't really play out and it's a massive misconception and misunderstanding. Jerry's Quinn was perfectly street-smart in his own way. As early as "Prince of Wails," he convinces an armed resistance to consider him an ally. Quinn could also be arrogant and self-absorbed, so the idea that Quinn was some sort of Steve Urkel geek while Rob's Quinn could be the muscle is just baffling. I'm not really sure how to make the identity crisis work in terms of what we saw onscreen.

My suggestion would be to present Mallory as a genius just like Quinn -- except Mallory's genius is myopically focused on money and little else; his grasp of mathematics extends only as far as finances and is useless for sliding and science, and with a running joke that the sliders would never consider Mallory's moneymaking scam artist skills to be admirable or even recognize it as intelligence.

One thing I have been trying to do for SLIDERS REBORN is create a role for Robert Floyd. A role where he could play Mallory and be interesting without having to impersonate Jerry -- in fact, they'd be onscreen together in a buddy cop sort of way. But I've been unable to figure out Mallory's character. It's a bit embarrassing -- "Slide Effects" was me selecting what I liked about SLIDERS and dismissing all the rest, while SLIDERS REBORN has me trying to embrace every facet of the series -- but Mallory and Colin are two characters I just can't figure out.

I don't care about Colin in the slightest, but I feel really bad about Mallory's exclusion, because Rob *really* engaged with SLIDERS. It is the worst reviewed season, described by the series creator as the worst year of the show with the production team creatively disengaging from the show and documenting their disinterest online. But Rob did his very best with the material and he paid tribute to Jerry O'Connell and Quinn Mallory and he honoured them -- which makes me feel bad that I have yet to find a way to return the favour in my anniversary special.

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So, Coulson flat out murdering Grant Ward.

I generally don't approve of superheroes executing defenseless antagonists, partially because it deprives future writers of villains. That said -- I really wasn't feeling any kind of moral ambiguity towards Grant Ward's death. Ward had killed a shockingly high number of innocent people and proven impossible to incarcerate, meaning every episode in which he was killing more people was an episode where Coulson and the SHIELD team look incompetent.

I thought the final hunt for Ward was a really gripping two-parter and I really liked the silent moment in the mid-season finale with Coulson crushing Ward's hart and throwing away the hand that did it along with the rage and hatred. I was also really moved by Gemma's wordless grief that Will hadn't made it back alive. It really says a lot about how much actors define a show after they've grasped their characters.

The reviews were hilariously caustic towards this two-parter, mocking how the HYDRA soldiers battering down the walls are represented through animatics and how any monster that geeky Fitz can defeat is hardly worth HYDRA's efforts. It is, of course, always easy to mock. AGENTS OF SHIELD has gone from being a joke to me to a real high point of the Marvel Universe.

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I enjoyed Season 3 of ARROW -- until Oliver died, and then it became very laboured, confused and tired. Oliver's resurrection was absurd and nonsensical and his return from death caused all kinds of problems. We're expected to take Thea's death seriously when Oliver's was irrelevant; we have Oliver vowing never to leave his city again only to leave it a few weeks later; we have a League of Assassins that wants to engage in a complex effort to unleash a biological weapon on an entire city in order to eliminate a single target (couldn't R'as have just bought a gun?) and Felicity's pedestal turned her into an object rather than a person.

I've enjoyed Season 4 much more and am less troubled by the faults, although they're present. I'm having a good time with Felicity. I got the impression the Calculator knows exactly who Overwatch is and who Oliver Queen is; why else did he just happen, as Informant puts it, to get himself involved in Team Arrow? So, that didn't bother me too much, nor does the uncertainty over who rests in The Grave (for reasons I posted above). That said -- Informant is right, especially about Felicity having skipped rehab. The reason that stuff doesn't trouble me: I don't really think of ARROW as a realistic drama. It's an impressionistic, exaggerated, larger than life escapist fantasy.

Seasons 1 - 2 of ARROW were just as absurd, from Oliver apparently building his base under the nightclub with one day of sledgehammering, Diggle pretending to be a smoker when he isn't one and wouldn't smell like one, Thea's addiction issues vanishing after a stern talk, the Black Canary being unmasked to reveal a complete and total stranger whom Oliver inexplicably recognizes as a Sara Lance who looks nothing like the Sara Lance of Season 1, Sara Lance charging into battle with that ludicrous push-up bra, the Huntress becoming Evil because she discovers Oliver has an ex-girlfriend he talks to now and then -- ultimately, I've learned to accept stuff like that and Felicity wheeling around in that chair like she was born in it because ARROW isn't a realistic show. It's a fantasy.

It's no sillier than Barry Allen apparently being the only police scientist in Central City with a lab that Barry and only Barry ever uses. Or Barry being dispatched to crime scenes despite his lengthy coma making it unlikely he would be permitted to work cases without an extensive psych evaluation to make sure his work would hold up in court. Or Star Labs being in operation with funds, vehicles and equipment after FEMA declared it a disaster zone. Or THE FLASH's inability to explain how the prisoners in the Pipeline prison go to the bathroom (Ray Palmer even asks how the prisoners "complete the transaction" only for Cisco to get distracted from answering the question).

As for the large LEGENDS cast -- I suspect it's simply being practical in that they need to have some characters they can kill.

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I think Matt's theory is that I'm drawing on superhero comics for SLIDERS. I have, after all, always seen the sliders as superhero characters with their own very distinct set of superpowers. The final script presents the sliders as full-fledged superhero characters in that they have the power to transport anyone and anything to anywhere on Earth. The idea of creating a gateway of energy to draw in dangerous objects and expel them somewhere is reminiscent of Superman using his super-breath or the Flash generating a whirlwind to draw away toxic fumes from people. Superheroes are often, at climactic moments, in a position where their enemies are at their mercy.

I'll be happy to buy and read your book regardless of where it lands on any list, although I understand the importance of this program to your career.

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Okay, I added "gobsmacked" back in.

In other news, I have sent Sliders Rewatch all the deleted scenes and trivia for Season 5 now -- just hit send on an E-mail containing all the notes for "To Catch a Slider," "Dust," "Eye of the Storm," "The Seer," the feature film (never made), and the 2009 series finale outlined by Tracy Torme (never made). While I know a lot about SLIDERS thanks to Temporal Flux, I know far, far less about LOIS AND CLARK, so I suspect this marks the conclusion of my contributions to the Rewatch Podcast unless they want a guest. Looking forward to hearing what they do next!

Behind the Scenes Information Courtesy of Temporal Flux

A Current Affair Trivia
•    Information here is from Keith Damron.
•    This episode was written by the infamous Steve Stoliar, personal friend of David Peckinpah, former personal assistant to Groucho Marx and writer of Paradise Lost," largely considered upon its air date to be the worst episode of SLIDERS ever made.
•    He also wrote Season 4's "Net Worth," largely infamous for reportedly being a Sabrina Lloyd story without Sabrina Lloyd.
•    Stoliar pitched SLIDERS does the Lewinsky story.
•    It was wildly popular with Dial, Peckinpah and Black, but not Damron.
•    Keith Damron thought it was unlikely Universal would approve this story.
•    It was approved.
•    The script came in.
•    Damron, busy with other episodes, had absolutely no time -- none whatsoever -- to rewrite the script, and it was filmed almost entirely as written.
•    Unlike "Paradise Lost" (written according to production's preferences for monster movies and hacked up before and during filming) and "Net Worth" (crippled), this episode is genuinely representative of Steve Stoliar's skills as a writer.
•    Stoliar pitches a  simple, straightforward concept.
•    There's some weaknesses on display such as Rembrandt, Diana and Mallory's inability to realize why Maggie was disguised and some absurdities like the gang entering a room with the President despite holding a device that's counting down.
•    But there's also tremendous effort at world-building and an effort to define all the characters and make them more than their plot functions.
•    Paradoxically, there's also their reduction to plot functions: Bobby Hawks is appalled by the idea of faking a story, but ultimately goes along with it because the episode needed to wrap up.
•    There's effective, good-natured humour without the marked mean spiritedness of other SLIDERS stories from this era.
•    This episode had no script editor working on it.
•    Steve Stoliar is a decent writer. Not a master of the format, but he's decent.
•    SLIDERS blogger Ian McDuffie remarked that script-editor Keith Damron was arguably the worst writer to ever work on SLIDERS, but that "Sometimes, we are blessed with his days off."
•    Bobby Hawks is a pastiche of Matt Drudge.
•    President Jeffrey Williams is a pastiche of Bill Clinton, right down to the hand gestures.
•    Production did not have enough extras for the final press conference, so the extras were filmed in four separate shots and the shots were them combined into a single shot.
•    This episode, for scenes not filmed in the Chandler, uses a leftover set from the COLUMBO TV movie, "Ashes to Ashes."
•    (Does it really look so different from the Chandler that it made a difference?)
•    Oddly, that COLUMBO TV movie was directed by Patrick McGoohan, whose writing, acting and directing on THE PRISONER were homaged in the script for "Please Press One."
•    McGoohan stumbled into Keith Damron's office one day when looking for the bathroom, disappointing Damron, who wanted to pitch a PRISONER reboot -- and I admit that a Damron-PRISONER couldn't have been any worse than the actual reboot.

The Java Jive Trivia
•    The information regarding this episode is from Matt Hutaff of Earth Prime dot com and Season 5 script editor Keith Damron.
•    This is the first episode of SLIDERS with a Rembrandt double that doesn't feature Clinton Derricks Carroll.  (Error: I mistakenly thought Clinton was in "The Alternateville Horror." He isn't.)
•    This episode was written by Janét Saunders, David Peckinpah's assistant since Season 3.
•    They had a good relationship and Janét pitched him this episode for Season 5 and also another to come.
•    Janét had explored the Universal Backlot and found locations that could be used in this story.
•    In the original story, there was a lot of Depression-era gangster action with the story opening with Rembrandt rescuing Angie from the Dropper Daddy's Gang who just killed her boyfriend.
•    Angie was not a manager at the Velvet Slipper, merely a singer who helps Rembrandt get a job as a bass player.
•    Prohibition on alcohol never ended in this version; there was nothing about caffeine being illegal, and Angie's boyfriend was informing on some alcohol producing gangsters.
•    Angie would get kidnapped and the sliders would try to rescue her and fail, but succeed in bringing down the gangsters.
•    It was meant to be a showcase for Rembrandt and Cleavant's singing.
•    The original title of the pitch was "Black and Bluesey" and can be seen in the Odds and Ends at EP.COM.
•    Damron and Dial decided that caffeine would be illegal to add more of an alt-world flavour, which I think was a good idea.
•    However, the final product was impaired due to lifeless direction and a low music budget.
•    Music composer Danny Lux was too busy with scoring SLIDERS and THE PRACTICE and ALLY MCBEAL.
•    Bill Dial turned to songwriter friend Peter Andrews to write "He Must be Dreaming."
•    The filming of this episode was a popular event; even the hands-off Sci-Fi executives came to set to watch the musical performances.
•    According to Temporal Flux: Dial and Damron needed to make this episode another low-cost effort in order to redirect the money to the epic and expensive series finale.
•    This was, upon airing, considered to be one of the worst episodes of SLIDERS ever made.
•    But then, SLIDERS managed to make some more that were even worse.

Return of Maggie Beckett
•    Information here is from Temporal Flux and Keith Damron.
This is another episode by Chris Black ("Common Ground," "The Alternateville Horror," "Slide By Wire," "Way Out West" and "Applied Physics."
•    As with all Black episodes, there is a strong fascination with Maggie and Kari Wuhrer.
•    Chris Black wanted to address the role of Maggie's father in her life and Dial and Peckinpah were happy to let him do what he liked.
•    However, the prop department negligently got Maggie's last name wrong.
•    There is no real story behind this, but it speaks to how the production really didn't care about what the hell they were doing even if writers here and there did.
•    The character of the General in this episode is meant to be Tom Beckett from QUANTUM LEAP -- albeit unofficially.
•    Originally, the title for this episode was "Waiting for Beckett," but the title didn't clear the legal department for some reason. It was a reference to the Samuel Beckett play, WAITING FOR GODOT.
•    In Seasons 4 to 5, numerous space stories had been pitched, especially with the sliders landing in a spacecraft seconds before it launches.
•    Most of these stories were rejected until Chris Black pitched this one.
•    Damron and Black were then put in competition, both to create a space-based pitch that Dial and Peckinpah would agree to buy.
•    Damron pitched a sliders-land-in-a-launching spaceship story where the sliders accidentally take the spaceship with them to another world with an overpopulation crisis and the sliders have to decide whether to hand over the spaceship or withhold it -- because without the spaceship, they can't slide off this world.
•    Chris Black pitched something far simpler and his pitch was bought.
Damron good-naturedly declared it to be his favourite episode of Season 5.
•    This is the most popular episode of Season 5 among the fan base.

Easy Slider
•    Information below is from Temporal Flux of Dimension of Continuity.
•    This story was pitched because David Peckinpah's obsession with motorcycles was well-known to the staff, especially his assistant and the writer of this episode, Janét Saunders.
•    She thought he would insist on buying it.
•    Peckinpah was not in a lead role for Season 5, but he was technically still the boss.
•    The original pitch featured Kari Wuhrer heavily and was a Maggie love story.
•    However, Peckinpah's distance from the show meant he wasn't pushing for this episode to be made and it was on the verge of being rejected.
•    Then his mistress -- no, not his wife -- mentioned that a motorcycle episode could offer the chance for her to do some stuntwork.
•    Peckinpah commissioned the episode for this reason, although his stated reason was that he liked the costuming opportunities for Kari. "I see Kari in tight leather -- go with it!"
•    This Kari costume never happened due to rewrites.
•    According to Temporal Flux: When Cleavant Derricks heard about Peckinpah commissioning an episode to suit his girlfriend, he lost all hope for SLIDERS.
•    Cleavant realized that the show was not about making a series, it was just Peckinpah and Dial screwing around and with Sci-Fi unlikely to renew for another season after O'Connell's departure made them lose all faith, this was most definitely the end.
•    The other reason Cleavant was sure no renewal was coming: he knew Sci-Fi had committed their budget elsewhere for the next season of TV; they'd set nothing side for a sixth season of SLIDERS.
•    Robert Floyd, in contrast, was sure there would be a Season 6 -- the ratings were excellent, he noted. Sci-Fi would have to be insane to cancel their highest rated series.
•    Surely, Rob felt, given SLIDERS' first-place position on Sci-Fi, they would find the money somewhere.
•    Never in the history of SLIDERS has anyone ever been so very, very wrong.
•    This episode is also infamous for another reason: before Season 5, there was a prominent SLIDERS side run by a man with the handle of "The Expert."
•    The Expert had a lot of behind the scenes information on SLIDERS, frequently revealing plots of future episodes (although he would't ruin them). He had contacts in production.
•    Before Season 5, the Expert posted a ton of information on what was coming with episode plots such as Conrad Bennish Jr. returning, Colin getting blown up, etc..
•    Temporal Flux also revealed the plan for Bennish to return for Season 5.
•    The Expert also revealed that one planned episode for Season 5 was "Sleepless in San Francisco," a Maggie love story and various details of this story.
•    In a chat, Season 5 script editor Keith Damron declared that the Expert and Temporal Flux had made up all their claims and that none of these events would take place in the show.
•    Keith Damron said there was no "Sleepless in San Francisco" story.
•    Shortly after this, the Expert took down his site.
•    Fans theorize that these leaks were a sting operation to identify the Expert's contact, and he took down his site to protect his source.
•    The Expert's episode capsules remain online at EarthPrime.com and Temporal Flux purchased most of the Expert's SLIDERS materials.
•    I would also add that TF's reveals and exposes would, in time, come to equal if not dwarf the Expert's output.
•    Temporal Flux insisted that Jason Gaffney (who played Bennish) had been booked for appearances only for this to be abruptly cancelled and that the Expert's reports had not been wrong -- although, as with any TV show, some stories might not make it to air as initially planned (and reported on by the Expert).
•    Keith Damron maintained in chats that TF and the Expert were liars and had fabricated "Sleepless in San Francisco" and the Bennish arc.
•    This left a nasty impression on SLIDERS fandom. The Expert and TF are beloved figures of fandom.
•    Keith Damron, in contrast, was seen as the mediocre writer of "Lipschitz Live" and considered to have little to no credibility when put against the Expert or TF.
•    It's amusing that someone employed by the show was seen as an untrustworthy charlatan.
•    Meanwhile, fan figures of no official standing were seen as definitive authorities on the series.
•    Keith Damron was seen as attacking Temporal Flux and the Expert, and by extension, attacking the SLIDERS fan base who were the only reason Damron had a job in Seasons 4 - 5.
•    SLIDERS would never have made it to Season 3 or 4 or 5 without that devoted and campaigning audience.
•    Later on, Matt Hutaff was able to get his hands on a pitch for "Easy Slider." The original version as pitched.
•    This original pitch was exactly in line with the Expert's information on "Sleepless in San Francisco," the pitch Damron claimed didn't exist, the pitch Damron claimed that TF and the Expert had fabricated.
•    It was a rough version of what would become "Easy Slider" with the aired episode having made it Mallory's love story instead of Maggie's.
•    Matt was also able to get Tracy Torme to definitively confirm that Bennish had been scheduled for Season 5.
•    This made it blatantly clear that Damron, for whatever reason, had been lying and had done so with great malice towards the Expert and Temporal Flux as well as the fans, seeking to portray the fan experts as liars.
•    For this reason, moreso than his bad scripts and bad editing, Keith Damron is the second most hated man in SLIDERS.

1) David Peckinpah
2) Keith Damron, hated for his 'outreach' to SLIDERS fans and also for his Year 5 Journal where every bad Season 5 decision is documented.
3) Bill Dial, hated for the Season 5 finale and Season 5 in general as well as sabotaging Season 4.
4) Jerry O'Connell, hated for abandoning the show and lying about why, claiming that there was a Season 5 budget cut (there wasn't).
5) Kari Wuhrer, hated for abusing Sabrina Lloyd.
6) Peter Roth, hated as the FOX executive who demanded John Rhys-Davies be fired
7) Robert Greenblatt, hated as the FOX President who declared the Season 3 monster episodes to be superior to Seasons 1 - 2.
8) Steve Stoliar, hated for writing "Paradise Lost."
9) William Bigelow, hated for writing "The Chasm."
10) Doug Molitor for the Slide it Yourself fiasco.

•    The story original "Easy Slider" pitch is here: http://earthprime.com/etcetera/the-original-easy-slider
•    There exists the possibility that Damron, as an staff member, was obligated to say what he was told to say by his employers.

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They said that John Constantine cured Sara from dying if she doesn't indulge the bloodlust, while Thea will die if she doesn't kill.

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ringringring ringringring ringring click

"Cisco, it's Overwatch! We need -- "

"Hi! You've reached STAR Labs! We're currently engaged in an extradimensional journey to a parallel world of unknown threat and danger from which we may never return! Please leave a message and we'll get back to you should any of us return from Earth 2 alive."

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The problem with Darin Morgan is that he is, by his own admission, a slow writer. The only reason he was able to contribute a script to the Revival: "Were Monster" was originally an unfilmed script for the NIGHT STALKER reboot that was bought shortly before the show got cancelled. Morgan was able to rewrite his existing story for the Revival.

I think he could be a great story editor, but he apparently got burnt out on THE X-FILES after two seasons and he only lasted eleven episodes on FRINGE in a similar role.

Clearly a man meant for film.

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ME: "Scenes I conceive keep showing up in my TV shows. The third REBORN script has the sliders opening a vortex that sucks up all the doomsday clocks. THE FLASH's mid-season finale had the superheroes opening a vortex that sucks up all these bombs."

MATT: "Hahaha!"

ME: "And AGENTS OF SHIELD had Agent Coulson fighting Grant Ward and knocking Ward to the ground -- and Ward was immobilized and of no immediate threat -- and then Coulson, in a fit of rage over a loved one, crushed Grant's heart using his robot hand and was then was rather regretful. Robot hand. Hmm. Now it sounds stupid."

MATT: "Stupid? More like AWESOME."

ME: "It's just like the rewritten 'Mother and Child' scene where Quinn killed the Kromagg. All these similar scenes I write showing up in superhero shows. What does it mean?"

MATT: "It means the absolute glut of superhero programming is frying your brain to a crisp."

I think a far more cost effective route for SLIDERS would be an even lower budget -- either prose or the screenplay format. However, to really engage with an audience -- well, first, it has to be licensed. Don't get me wrong, a script being posted on EarthPrime.com is official enough for me, but that won't pass muster if aiming for mainstream.

Also, it would have to be in a digital format and be extremely, extremely cheap and also very short. Maybe the Pilot redone as a short novella or a screenplay sold in ePub and PDF. Paradoxically, it would have to be written by a big name writer willing to take a low advance on a brilliant project in the hope of returns down the line.

So, instead of me writing it -- we'd approach JK Rowling or Neil Gaiman or Stephen King or Suzanne Collins or Veronica Roth -- someone huge, prepared to give the series a massive start, and then you'd have me, Informant, Slider_Quinn21, Mike Truman, Temporal Flux and Nigel Mitchell write short novellas with our big name opener returning every 3 - 4 volumes.

This proposal, paradoxically, operates on having a very low budget and yet requires hugely expensive writers to provide their services for pennies on their usual rate to start.

Temporal Flux attempted a comic revival in the years after the cancellation. The problem, unfortunately, was that the investment was too high and the return too low. Currently, I don't think there's a sufficient readership for SLIDERS comics without a very capable publisher willing to engage in deficit financing. So, it's unlikely, but stranger things have happened with properties even more obscure than SLIDERS.

THE X-FILES: SEASON 10 was what inspired my own SLIDERS stuff. SEASON 10 was very much a for-the-fans product that would be incomprehensible to anyone but the die-hards -- and yet, there was a sufficient readership to make the comic a massive financial success (albeit one that was wholly ignored by the TV show making an unexpected return). However, THE X-FILES was an international success, as was BUFFY. FIREFLY less so, but, like THE X-FILES, there were enough die-hards to make a comic profitable.

I'd be curious to read these more obscure comics of ancient TV shows someday -- but I admit, I'm probably not going to watch SIX MiLLION DOLLAR MAN or KOLCHAK anytime soon.

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ME: "I'm stuck on this part of the 'Net Worth' Redux script. I've finished everything else, I've fixed all the other plot problems in the story, except -- I can't figure out how Quinn is supposed to survive getting shot at with a bazooka that brings the hotel crashing down around him. I'm really starting to lose hope that I can come up with a solution."

MATT: "Why do they have to fire a bazooka? Is that set in stone? Couldn't the Rovers or whatever the fuck they are called have pirated a piece of tech from the Onliners? Some pulse technology that knocks everyone out without damaging the building?"

ME: "But the bazooka!"

MATT: "I mean, you're trying to reverse engineer a solution to a problem that is fundamentally stupid. So just change the problem to something less stupid. That whole scene is tard-level dumb, you should come up with a completely different scenario. Barring that, change the nature of the weapon and be done with it."

ME: "I didn't want to see it that way, I guess. I wanted to see it as an impossible situation, which Quinn tends to thrive on."

MATT: "Quinn doesn't thrive on that stuff."

ME: "What!?"

MATT: "He is adaptable at BEST. Quinn is not MacGyver. He is not going to engineer a solution out of getting hit by a bazooka."

ME: "MacGyver?"

MATT: "Have you never seen MACGYVER?"

ME: "Is that a TV show?"

MATT: "Are... are you fucking with me right now?"

[ME: "I've heard it used as a verb."

MATT: "I am gobsmacked."]

ME: "I'm reading the Wikipedia entry on MACGYVER now. But I always thought the best way to handle Quinn was to put the character in insane, impossible, no-win situations. And then come up with some absurd, implausible, nonsensical contrivance that allows him to succeed while using his genius to dismiss any plot problems that may result."

MATT: "See, and that's a problem that was perpetuated by the writers. Each member of the team had a particular skillset. Quinn was the enthusiastic genius. Arturo was the realist, the skeptic. Rembrandt was the street-smart voice. Literally, the voice. And Wade was the devil-may-care element of playful chaos. As time went on more and more things were subsumed by Quinn because he was easiest to write for -- he was the lead, after all. So he became the hacker, the sweet-talker, the fucking lockpick master. But if you are looking at a basics approach, Quinn should be totally out of his element when staring down a bazooka."

ME: "This Wikpedia page on MACGYVER is really inspiring. This reads like the greatest TV show ever made, Matt. 'The clever solutions MacGyver implemented to seemingly unsolvable problems – often in life-or-death situations requiring him to improvise complex devices in a matter of minutes – were a major attraction of the show, which was praised for generating interest in the applied sciences, particularly engineering, and for providing entertaining storylines.' This is totally what Quinn should be!"   

MATT: "I'm telling you -- Rembrandt needs to take center stage for a moment. Arturo needs to be a disbelieving boob."

ME: "Matt, MacGyver is the perfect model for Quinn Mallory! Quinn is going to beat that bazooka even if it kills me. MacGyver will lead the way!"

MATT: "God help us."

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SCULLY: "So now you're saying that you were attacked by a six-foot horny toad?"
MULDER: "Whoa! Let's just keep this within the realm of the natural sciences."

Let's be clear. This was a brilliant episode. And I know I'm being a killjoy, but Scully being aware that she's immortal isn't a very good idea. If it weren't for the fact that this is only a six episode season, it would be disastrous. As much as I love HIGHLANDER, THE X-FILES really does depend on physical threat and danger and the characters being aware that they can be harmed.

Setting that aside, however, it raises all sorts of issues the show is seriously ill-equipped to address. Why would an immortal Scully give up William? She'd be the human shield of infinite uses. Why would an immortal Scully allow Mulder to get depressed over lacking tangible proof of the supernatural? If she's aware that she can't die, she might have cheered Mulder up by stabbing herself through the heart a few times. Why hasn't Scully run a full range of tests on herself to determine how her immortality works and used that to help Mulder in proving the existence of the paranormal?

Why is Scully afraid of the were-monster in this episode? Why does Mulder worry about her confronting suspects alone? Why was Mulder worried when Scully got thrown into a wall last week? When did Scully come to realize and accept her immortality? How has she coped with knowing she'll outlive everyone and everything? What's her stock portfolio like with her longevity in mind?

The immortality is neat if Scully isn't aware of it. The timeloop of "Monday" suggests that Scully probably gets killed *all* the time -- it's just that the onscreen events are the final version in which she didn't die. But that prevents Scully from being aware of her immortality.

It's probably best if this one line is treated as a joke, because it's a bit like the magic blood that cures death in STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS.

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The accelerometer on my Windows tablet had stopped working. It is stuck in landscape mode.

... I give up. This thing is clearly not a tablet.

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Behind the Scenes Information Courtesy of Temporal Flux, Keith Damron and Robert Floyd

New Gods for Old Trivia
•    According to TF: This script was originally called "God's Country," written for Season 4 with all the sliders getting infected by nanites except Colin.
•    It wasn't filmed in Season 4, but rewritten and filmed for Season 5.
•    It was written by David Gerrold, a prolific science fiction writer who is famous for the Tribbles episode of STAR TREK and the time travel novel, THE MAN WHO FOLDED HIMSELF. It was a truly seminal novel about how -- oh, wait, you know this one. Never mind.
•    After two episodes where the Jerry/Rob identity crisis for Mallory was ignored, "New Gods for Old" uses the nanites to definitively declare that Jerry has been erased.
•    According to TF: Part of this was due to Dial's unwillingness to put any effort into showing Jerry O'Connell any respect in the series due to his anger towards Jerry for leaving the show.
•    The other part: Damron and Dial were having trouble managing the freelance writers.
•    They had given conflicting notes to the freelancers: some had been told to write Mallory with the name "Michael," while others had been told to use "Quinn-2" or "Quinn" or "Mallory."
•    Some had been told that the character was a Jerry/Rob blend, others had been told it was Jerry in Rob's body, others had been told it was Rob with a secondary set of memories from Jerry.
•    With all these contradictions and Dial's hostility towards Jerry O'Connell, the decision was made to just give up on the identity crisis arc. Dealing with it was interfering with Dial's preference for playing Solitaire during writers room meetings.
•    As a result: the scripts for "Strangers and Comrades" had no Quinn-moments added and "The Great Work" had all the Quinn-moments removed.
•    "New Gods for Old" declared that Quinn was gone now.
•    Robert Floyd was deeply disappointed by this episode.
•    Robert Floyd also loves this episode.
•    He called it an episode that had "Great writing with a great concept!" The ruminations on free will, self-harm, self-determination, collective thought -- he adored it.
•    And then, with the ending, Floyd said, "There was an emptiness. It took some cards off the table -- the one thing I wish we could have kept more than anything."
•    He was very disappointed that Quinn was gone.
•    On the Bboard, fans speculated that Floyd had asked the producers to end the merging plot so he wouldn't have to imitate Jerry.
•    Floyd flat out denies this. "I loved having them both; it was more fun to play as an actor."
•    He said he had gotten pretty good at his Jerry impression and could have kept it up for a whole season, although his preference was to do two minds in conflict so that imitating Jerry would be one part of a complex identity crisis.
•    Floyd approached Bill Dial and according to Floyd, Dial said that he felt "New Gods for Old" was one of Season 5's best scripts and he didn't want to change a thing about it.
•    Dial's statement is in stark contradiction to confirmed facts: "New Gods for Old" was a Season 4 purchase that had seen four different drafts.
•    Which leaves us with only one explanation from TF: Dial didn't want to rewrite all the freelance scripts to be consistent in featuring the dual personalities.
•    It was too much work. Solitaire was calling.

Please Press One Trivia
•    This episode was considered by Keith Damron to be William Bigelow paying homage to Season 1 episodes where the sliders encounter and defeat a dystopian regime.
•    Throughout Season 5, the production had a standing refusal against buying any stories they considered formulaic and declared their desire to avoid stories with the sliders teaming up with the local resistance.
•    (This also led to refusing broad alternate history concepts like a world where Nazis won WWII or where the South won the Civil War.)
•    However, Damron thought it would be great to do a story about the customer service experience from hell.
•    Interestingly, the episode's script is full of references to THE PRISONER, and around the time Season 5 of SLIDERS was filming, THE PRISONER star Patrick McGoohan was directing a COLUMBO TV movie on the stage next door to the Chandler.
•    Damron was deeply disappointed by the 'scoop' that abducts Maggie and the 'mini-scoop' that chases her around later.
•    The 'scoop' was meant to be a frightening truck with a mechanical claw to capture Maggie, and from reading the script's allusions to THE PRISONER, it's meant to be a Rover-esque horror.
•    (This might not make much sense to you if you're unfamiliar with THE PRISONER.)
•    Instead, one was a generic black van and the other was like a remote controlled car.
•    The claw was replaced with a tractor beam.
•    Damron added the scenes where Rembrandt reprimands Mallory for knowing how to steal a car in order to pad out the running length of the episode.
•    Arlo was originally a high tech rebel hacker teenager.
•    Damron rewrote the character into a disgruntled Data Universal employee.
•    With only three guest-stars and generic hallways, "Please Press One" is one of the cheapest episodes of Season 5, made due to determined penny pinching.
•    At this point, it was definitively known that Season 5 would be the final season of SLIDERS.
•    With no support from the Sci-Fi Channel and Sci-Fi having committed their future funding to THE INVISIBLE MAN and FIRST WAVE, they'd allocated nothing for SLIDERS.
•    Production knew this, and were therefore making plans.
•    The economics of Season 5 allowed the producers to make episodes for less than the $700,000 - $850,000 per episode, then move the saved funds to a subsequent episode.
•    This would be done on several episodes to come in order to set aside money for an epic series finale.
•    This epic series finale would never be filmed.

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Informant wrote:

It's a solid story to explore. I wrote about death from a few different angles in one of my books, as the characters were desperately trying to make sense of their lives when some vital piece of their world was missing. Trying to reclaim it is impossible. They just keep slipping away, like sand through your fingers. But the space they leave behind isn't exactly empty either. They don't cease to exist. The questions you have for them are still there. The need to hug them is still there. They are an active influence on your life even if you can't have a conversation with them.

Quinn could tell her that nothing is lost forever because when his father died, he left pieces of himself behind that influenced the man that Quinn became and what he did with his life. Because of that, he has seen worlds where time flows backwards. He has been a ghost, communicating with his friends through the help of a medium. He has seen dinosaurs. He's lost people he loves, seemingly forever, only to have them come back into his life. His entire life is built on a foundation of witnessing the impossible. All of that was because of what his father left behind. And there are probably days when he sees something, either in himself or in the worlds around him, that bring back some other piece of his father.  Sometimes, those pieces fit together in ways that make him see his father in a slightly different light. He's still learning about the man, and from the man. It just takes more time and patience than it used to. And in those moments when he realizes something that he never noticed before, for just a second or two, it's like the present is overlapping with the past, existing in the same moment... which he has also seen happen.

Sorry. I started rambling there after a while and it got a little corny. smile


No, it's very good. I don't know if it has anything to do with losing a beloved TV show and believing that it will return. Believing that the sliders will come back because the storytelling engine of parallel universes and the timer that takes them there is so versatile, so flexible, so limitless in function and concept that Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo can survive anything from being blown up to seeing their TV show cancelled. Their resurrections, reunions and returns were impossible. Quinn and Arturo and Wade were *dead.* But they came back anyway. They will always come back.

The stuff about Quinn's dad has nothing to do with that.

But I don't know if that's really a *problem*! Again, this is where Matt would say that my feelings about the TV show are not actually relevant to the characters from an in-universe standpoint whereas your stuff about Quinn's dad is wholly and totally relevant.

I'll check out some of the X-FILES stuff.

I guess the reboot script is probably best in that the actors won't need to try imitating the actors. They can be their own versions of Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo. It'd be silly to do SLIDE EFFECTS or SLIDERS REBORN because both are using the reader's familiarity with Jerry, Sabrina, Cleavant and John to summon their voices to the story. The 2013 script was still doing a pastiche of the 1995 actors, although it wouldn't be hard for decent actors to interpret the lines in their own way.

Well, that's up to you. I certainly won't stand in the way. But they did a PRISONER adaptation where they found a completely charmless performer to play Patrick McGoohan's suave, forceful, aloof, outraged, gallant Number Six. They don't seem to be very good at casting. The Alice Drake character was supposed to be an English spy and should sound like Emma Thompson speaking perfect English. For some reason, they cast someone with truly peculiar pronunciation and a hesitant line delivery that gives the impression she doesn't know the language.

I think Tom and Cory's impressions are fine as comedy spoofs, but impressions don't really lend themselves to drama.

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Okay. I've finished off all the trivia notes for Season 5, the Feature Film that Never Was and the 2009 Series Finale That Never Was. I just need to rewatch two more episodes ("To Catch a Slider" and "The Seer") for deleted scenes and then all my research for the Rewatch Podcast is done.

I would never stop anyone from doing an audio adaptation of SLIDERS REBORN, but I also wouldn't encourage them. I've heard their PRISONER audioplay and it's terrible, completely failing to capture the charm of the lead character's performance. I think having impressionists perform SLIDERS REBORN is completely self-defeating; the point of the REBORN scripts is that they are pastiches of the actors.

The reason the scripts are lengthier than one would expect: the scripts don't just contain the dialogue. They contain all the acting as well. The body language. The physical behaviour. These are imagination-fuelled simulations of Jerry, Sabrina, Cleavant and John -- so that when you read it, you can hear those actors in your head as opposed to impressionists.

I don't think SLIDERS REBORN is really suited to anything other than it's current format. It's a media tie-in novel that uses screenplay format.

Anyway. I also wouldn't submit anything that isn't done. SLIDERS REBORN will finish in 2016, though. The Rewatch Podcast boys can confirm that I just sent them a beat sheet for the final installment -- it's just lacking in details I want to add in before scripting in full.

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I don't know if this is wise or appropriate, but I generally use my fiction to have characters act out my psychodramas. A scene in SLIDERS REBORN has our troubled teen, Laurel Hills, noting that her mother is dead on this world and dead in every version of reality, as established by the current state of the multiverse. Quinn urges her not to believe that Ms. Hills is gone. Quinn tells her that nothing is forever lost because ______________________ and if something loved and lost is _____________________, then it can come back.

I actually have no idea what sentiment to put into these two blank spaces. In my experience, sometimes, you lose things and you can't get them back and you simply have to move on. Anybody reading this who has never lost something or someone is either very lucky or very lonely. Why would Quinn be making this absurd declaration that everything lost can come back? How could he possibly justify such a remark?

I dunno. It's just how I feel about SLIDERS, you see. It was lost -- but I sincerely believe in opposition to reality that so long as I remember it and care about it, it will come back -- although it had to come back in the form of PDF screenplays posted on the Earth Prime website, and I feel that Quinn would say SOMETHING to this effect to comfort a troubled teenager whose dead mother can't be found in this reality or any other. I just don't know what that something would be.

This is normally where Matt tells me to stop requiring that a story represent my feelings.

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In another offbeat choice -- Scully is immortal. THE X-FILES, as I said above, was never awesome about continuity, but they did a few neat things now and then. The episode "Dreamland II" had Mulder bodyjacked by a man in black who cleans Mulder's apartment and destroys Mulder's room of pornography, replacing it with a waterbed. Nine episodes later, "Monday" opens with Mulder waking up in this same waterbed and telling his landlord he doesn't know where it came from. And in Season 3, a psychic who can tell how people will die is unable to read anything off Scully, for some strange reason. In Season 6's "Tithonus," Scully encounters an immortal photographer chasing Death; the photographer explains that someone took his death for him and now Death can't see him. The episode ends with Scully fatally shot -- until the photographer takes Scully's death for her.

So, Scully is immortal. Given Scully's doubts about the man, she doesn't seem to believe or even be aware of this. Four episodes later, in "Monday," Scully dies in an explosion -- and then time is looped back to the beginning of the day. The timeloop continues to repeat -- until Scully lives.

... this is completely insane and something the show is now compelled to avoid referring to too often -- in that the 'realism' of the show is severely impeded if Scully becomes aware that she can't die. In the fictional reality of the series, we know Scully can't die so long as the actress lives. But it is a really peculiar choice to remove even the illusion of peril, to the point where every subsequent episode endangering Scully depends on you not immediately remembering that she is protected by a timeloop. In fact, some of the more ludicrous and random ways in which Scully has survived may be due to the timeloop repeating (offscreen) with the onscreen events being the version where she lived.

"Tithonus" is a great episode and Scully is a great character, but I question the wisdom of declaring in-universe that the character is indestructible.

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I was watching "Triangle," "Dreamland" (1 - 2) and "How the Ghosts Stole Christmas." The four episodes have Mulder and Scully encountering ghost ships, body swaps, UFOs, government conspiracies, haunted houses, going about X-Files investigations business as usual. Except these four episodes are set during a period when Mulder and Scully had been fired off the X-Files. They've been reassigned to little more than data entry work.

Which means that when they go out to the Bermuda Triangle and Area 51 and spend Christmas ghost hunting, they're not engaging in their profession. It's not their job. So, if Mulder and Scully are engaging in X-File investigations together, it's because hanging out and chasing paranormal creatures is their default approach to life now. Before, it was a job. Now, it's simply all they know -- with the show often poking fun at how Mulder has no personal life outside the X-Files.

On another level, this is also THE X-FILES' peculiar inability to deal with continuity. Despite the show having the FBI reassign Mulder and Scully, they still continue to investigate X-Files cases with a scene here and there where their new boss reprimands them for unauthorized work or use of resources. Outside of that, these stories could just as easily take place before the resassignment or after their reinstatement.

The overall effect, however, is that it's hard not to see Mulder and Scully in a romantic light when they choose to be with each other in what's now their private time and engaged in their former professional pursuits.

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I think it's likely that Mulder, as a criminal profiler who's come face to face with sadistic serial killers of every stripe, wouldn't want any nutcase out there to be able to purchase firearms without the necessity of permits, background checks, registration, mandatory training, etc.. But I dunno. In Mulder's line of work, guns have regularly proven to be useless and worthless. But I can see Mulder feeling that anyone without a criminal record and sufficient safety training should be permitted to own a gun.

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Mulder's politics -- I dunno! I'm sure he votes, but given his opinions on the shadow government, I'm sure he thinks the electoral system is a joke. That said, I too find it difficult to believe that Mulder would not broadly support the right to bear arms, although where he stands on registration, permits, concealed and open carry laws is another issue entirely. As someone who worked in law enforcement as a forensic psychiatrist, he might support restrictions on sales, background checks, registration, permits, etc..

I don't think doing THE X-FILES set in 2012 would work if the show airs in 2016. THE X-FILES tries (and often fails) at realism, and the point of the series was that all these strange events take place in visually and physically plausible environment that's our world. It's not really worthwhile to strand THE X-FILES in the past just to get around the alien invasion deadline when it's a dead end anyway.

I was pretty much expecting the colonization plot to be declared to have been dealt with offscreen in some fashion. I expected it to be dealt with in the 2008 movie in a somewhat oblique manner or with some declaration that pollution / reality TV / blue light from smartphones / wifi signals / whatever had rendered Earth unfit for colonization and the aliens had decided that Earth wasn't worth the trouble anymore -- and that while Mulder was disappointed not to see aliens, there were still plenty of vampires / ghosts / werewolves / sorcerers / psychics / telekinetics and whatnot to deal with, so he had plenty to occupy his time.

My favourite casual dismissal would have been the alien colonists' plan involving using human reproductive urges as part of the telepathic drive needed to reproduce their species in human hosts, except their reproductive process would require male/male and female/female pairings -- but a significant portion of the human population had their prejudiced attitudes so deeply engrained that aliens realized it'd be impossible to use the humans as a host race long-term.

MULDER: "Yeah, that's right. Homophobia saved us all." SCULLY: "That's one truth we need to keep buried, Mulder."

I always thought maybe THE X-FILES should have done a "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome" -- a faux series finale of sorts, just to explain why it couldn't happen. We sort of got this -- in that FIGHT THE FUTURE had Mulder urinate on a poster for INDEPENDENCE DAY.

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I have to admit -- while I am clearly fascinated by THE X-FILES, the truth is that I'm more intrigued by what could have been on screen rather than what's actually there.

"My Struggle" actually reminds me of a series of Spider-Man comics -- in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #2, Spider-Man was getting a radio fixed and discovered that the workshop was also a base for aliens plotting to invade the Earth. The lead alien was a villain called the Tinkerer and Spider-Man thwarted their invasion. In the years to come, however, other writers presented the Tinkerer as a human being. Also, as Spider-Man comics progressed, Spidey fighting aliens was just weird.

About twenty years later, another writer brought the aliens back and Spider-Man fought them again, only to discover they were humans in costumes. It was pretty funny.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.co … -an-alien/

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Informant wrote:

That would have worked much better. But I'm still not sure that any of this works. We saw a flashback to thousands of years ago, with a caveman being attacked by the black oil. That same black oil was uncovered by a boy in "Dallas" (a desert version of Dallas, with mountains in the background) and sparked the first movie.

Agreed. This retcon was never going to be perfect. I think the only way to get around that stuff would be for a later episode -- maybe the finale -- to show clips of that stuff along with the Syndicate members worrying about the hybrids and the virus and the whatnot -- with the voice of the Cigarette Smoking Man narrating --

And then end with him saying to Mulder: "A tale of terror from before the dawn of life on this planet -- stitched into every page of the story of the human race -- and the most perfect fabrication of falsehoods to lead you and a hundred other self-important fools on a merry chase to nowhere." With the implication that all those historical scenes are part of the Smoking Man's false web of lies and that the Dallas stuff was also staged -- or maybe it was the black oil, but it wasn't part of a colonization plot, that was something the CSM let loose.

Never going to be perfect, but there's ways to make retcons easier to swallow. I think retcons can work so long as the audience can feel like if they're willing to accept the alteration, they're getting something worthwhile in return.

It's kind of funny how this kind of retcon is usually seen in comic books with multiple writers of differing intentions -- whereas Carter was always in charge of THE X-FILES and he's blowing up his own work.

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It was very kind of you to say that I should be working in TV -- but if you'd read the original SLIDERS REBORN outline (and you're welcome to see it), you would eat your words.

I'm more of an editor, I think. When people have ideas, I'm good at helping them present those ideas with visual impact and emotional resonance. "I want to reveal that Seasons 1 - 9 were all a trick and there's no alien invasion!" I can help you do that. "I want to have my two heroes locked in the trunk of a car for 12 pages but I can't come up with a good reason!" I can sort that out for you. When it comes to coming up with original ideas, however -- eeeek.

Pretty much every good idea in SLIDERS REBORN was either created by Matt Hutaff and Nigel Mitchell or done as a reaction to them pointing out that something was nonsensical / silly / confusing / stupid. I think I'm just really good at presenting the final version.

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Yeah -- one of the issues I took with the conspiracies Carter presented was this: we are all slaves of the corporate military complex at this stage. So it is lost on me how Mulder and O'Malley seemed to think that there was an additional endgame -- or some further end than what it already is. What exactly is there to prevent?

And it's amazing that it aired on FOX! That said, I'm not convinced there are risks to drinking water with fluoride or that genetically modified foods are riskier than organic foods.

I posted on Reddit: I think "My Struggle" was a good story but it wasn't told quite right. Here's how I would have done retconned the myth-arc with Carter's new take.

In declaring that there is no conspiracy, I think "My Struggle" needed to: (a) show at the beginning that Mulder is no longer sure he knows anything about the aliens or colonization (b) provide strong evidence that debunks colonization and (c) choose specific scenes from previous episodes and explain how they took place in this new version of continuity where colonization was a hoax.

I would not have used the New Mexico Doctor to establish and confirm Mulder's new theory. Instead, I would do the following.

Establishing Mulder's Doubts: I think our opening scene needed to be a flashback to December 22, 2012. It's Mulder and Scully in a bunker. Mulder is telling Scully what he thinks the aliens are doing to the population -- the bees, the black oil. He couldn't find any way to stop it, all they can do now is hide. But Scully feels doubts; there were no signs in the days leading up to the invasion; they locked themselves in the bunker one day in advance -- Mulder's afraid to turn on the satellite TV or radios and hear what horrors are taking place.

Scully turns on the TV and radio. Everything is normal. There is no invasion. Scully drags Mulder to the surface, leads him into the city. Everything is fine. No alien attack. Scully is overjoyed and relieved. Mulder is crushed and shattered.

So, this immediately sets up how everything Mulder believed in was wrong and it broke him. Later scenes set in the present establish very specifically why Scully dumped him: the man was depressed over not being murdered by aliens. For God's sake.

This would weight to Mulder being irritated by people joking about alien invasions.

Debunk Colonization: I think the evidence that Tad O'Malley showed should not have been an alien replicant vehicle. Instead, it should have been the contents of a military bunker he uncovered. The bunker contains the black oil -- but it's a highly advanced prop.

There's also facial prosthetics for people to dress up as the faceless rebels. An apparatus for setting people on fire. Prop aliens and alien costumes. Holographic emitters to create the illusion of UFOs. Stockpiles of hallucinogenic drugs that could create the illusion of missing time.

In short, Tad shows Mulder the prop closet for 1013's productions and this now makes Mulder realize that what he's seen could have been staged.

Reviewing Previous Episodes: So, when Mulder shares his new theory with Scully -- that there is no alien conspiracy -- I would have Scully respond with recounting the events of previous episodes. The spaceship in FIGHT THE FUTURE. The supersoldiers. Mulder's abduction. Mulder then replies with his opinions on how those events could have been staged. Scully points out the Syndicate members all believed in colonization. Mulder suggests that contact with aliens might have been limited to one person who would filter and alter any information he received.

Mulder's theory: war is the primary means by which society is industrialized and now the primary factor in controlling the population of individual countries. A falsified, simulated war against an alien race would be a means to global control.

Basically, I don't think Chris Carter's ideas were bad. I think his ideas are brilliant! I just think maybe he didn't do as great a job as he needed to on selling these ideas to his audience.

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The more I think about Mulder switching from believing in an alien invasion to a consortium of men with commandeered alien technology, the less I believe it -- at least as it's presented onscreen. This is a massive 180 from nine seasons and 203 episodes in which the alien invasion was presented as genuine and real. And I think the problem is that Carter hasn't really thought through how to debunk the alien conspiracy. The last time THE X-FILES was on TV, Carter laid out the impending alien invasion with an hour of characters sitting in court explaining various clips. Fourteen years later, the alien conspiracy is declared to be non-existent, the faceless rebels are ridiculed -- because Carter says so now. The reality around the characters has shifted. Nobody could possibly go back and watch the myth-arc episodes and think, this is totally building to a story where it's all debunked!

In fact, there is no real debunking to be found onscreen. So, if there is no colonization plot, who were the faceless rebels and what's the black oil and were the Syndicate also tricked and if there's no alien invasion then who created and deployed all the supersoldiers!?!?!?!? Paradoxically, I absolutely believe this retcon was an inescapable necessity, but I'm not sure the execution was quite right. I think the problem is that I don't believe the script for "My Struggle" is actually *informed* by any clear sense of how to debunk the mythology -- it's simply been declared as fraudulent by authorial decree.

Apologies for the blatant self promotion here, but I decided that, regardless of logic, sense or reason, Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo would be alive and well for SLIDERS REBORN. But I did know how they came back to life. I could explain it. I could explain how they ended up back home and why the Kromagg invasion never happened. I just didn't think it was interesting enough to put in the scripts. But I did have an answer. It wasn't necessarily a great answer, but I can certainly tell you what they did after Season 5 and what happened. I just preferred to do Season 20.

Well, we're on Season 24 of THE X-FILES and I get the uncomfortable sense that Carter doesn't really know what happened between Seasons 9 - 24 and he doesn't really care how Season 24 reflects on the nine seasons he's retroactively altering.

I think we need a webcomic or a digital novella to offer a retconned view of Seasons 1 - 9 to really sell this reworking.

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It was a blog post.

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Oddly -- at one point, I joked to Matt that Joel McHale had a role in THE X-FILES and he'd be playing Informant. This was before I knew that Tad O'Malley would be a 9-11 Truther.

I did get the sense that Mulder and Scully were just spouting their catchphrases at each other. It worked for me in that these two people have known each other for so long that they just speak in shorthand.

I think Chris Carter is a fine writer, but he has constantly written stories he doesn't want to write. It's very obvious that Carter doesn't want to write epic alien invasion stories or fate of the world situations. He wants to write grounded, done-in-one procedurals with supernatural overtones. Any time he tries to write an epic, he stumbles. "My Struggle" had to reintroduce THE X-FILES and pay off the overdue alien invasion without interfering with letting the next four episodes' writers do their monsters of the week in their way in their own style. In that sense, Chris Carter did a nice job.

The only thing that really, really, really did not work -- the majority of the fans are complaining that Mulder talked to one alien abductee, saw one man-made spaceship and declared that the alien invasion was a hoax and totally changed his beliefs in ten minutes. This isn't actually accurate. The dialogue clearly establishes that Mulder has doubted the alien invasion for ten years, ever since he met the Roswell doctor who autopsied aliens and declares the faceless rebels setting people on fire to be absurd nonsense.

However, for this transition to work -- I think "My Struggle" needed to make it clear from the first scene: Mulder no longer knows what to believe. So ideally, the first scene should have been Mulder and Scully in a bunker on December 26, 2012. Mulder is ranting about how the world has been destroyed, doomsday is here. Scully says she understand why he thinks that, she just doesn't *feel* it. She turns on a radio. A TV. Everything is normal. They ascend to the surface. There was no invasion. Scully is overjoyed. Mulder is crushed. And that is where Mulder lost his way and his relationship with Scully -- Scully couldn't be with a man who found the absence of an alien invasion to be cause for misery.

Instead, Carter's characterization -- like Tim Kring's -- is vague and unspecific and Mulder having been doubtful of Colonization for ten years is thrown out so suddenly that one could easily miss it. That's why that plot point doesn't land, in addition to the retcon being in total contradiction to pretty much every onscreen myth-arc event ever, albeit no more contradictory than all the other contradictions in that mythos.

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My friend blogged: "Mulner and Scuzzy are apparently not fighting the aliens anymore and i am disappointed. I can see people fighting people anytime"

I wrote a lengthy reply.

TLDR: There have been 203 episodes of THE X-FILES and only 67 were about aliens. The rest were about various paranormal phenomena and supernatural creatures. Aliens amount to only 33 per cent of THE X-FILES, so doing away with that part of the mythos still leaves plenty for the show to explore. It might be for the best as the alien plot had gotten convoluted and unworkable over the nine seasons of the show.

Origin Story

•  Originally, THE X-FILES wasn't meant to have an ongoing arc of any kind.
•  This was the 90s era of characters remaining static and unchanging.
•  The aliens were really no different from the shapeshifters or the vampires -- they were unexplained monsters.
•  In the alien episodes, a mysterious government official would usually be seen stealing any evidence of aliens and storing it away.
•  No answers were planned; the mystery was more compelling than any explanation.
•  The aliens and monsters of THE X-FILES were meant to be like the Cthulu Mythos -- inexplicable, unknowable, understandable only in terms of metaphors.
•  THE X-FILES' aliens were metaphors for the forces of light and darkness.
•  Then Gillian Anderson got pregnant.

Explanations are Required

•  The writing team decided to have her abducted by aliens to account for her absence during her character's absence during maternity leave.
•  This decision compelled the writers to start offering concrete explanations for the aliens: what they were doing on Earth, why they abducted people, their relationship with the government.
•  Season 2 revealed that the aliens were harvesting human tissue to create clones for some reason.
•  It also established the mysterious government agent as part of a Syndicate; a shadow government controlling most world governments who'd made a deal with the aliens in some unknown endgame.
•  Season 3 would reveal that the aliens were creating alien-human hybrids and also introduce the black oil, an alien lifeform that would enter a control a human host.
•  Season 4 would reveal that the Syndicate, while collaborating with the aliens, were also working against them, creating a vaccine that would prevent humans from being controlled by the black oil.
•  Season 5 would introduce a second set of aliens, a race of shapeshifters, called the Faceless Rebels, who wanted to stop the black oil.
•  These Rebels were just as hostile to humans, often killing abductees to interfere with the black oil's plans.
•  The feature film, FIGHT THE FUTURE, along with Season 6 would finally offer an explanation for the aliens' plans.

Answers at Last

•  The black oil is the original inhabitant of Earth before the human race. It's a virus.
•  The ice age brought on the black oil's main weakness, extreme cold.
•  Aliens visited Earth and encountered the black oil and it infected them.
•  The two lifeforms evolved into symbiotic partners.
•  They decided to leave Earth and return after the ice age and use the evolving life, humans, as their hosts.
•  Only some of the aliens were able to resist the black oil -- these are the faceless rebels.
•  The black oil aliens spread the virus across the cosmos while the faceless rebels sought to stop them, with Earth as one of their battlefields.

Invasion

•  The aliens returned to Earth in the 1940s, but their presence was detected by the US Government.
•  A shadow government, the Syndicate, determined the aliens' plans to colonize Earth and use humans as hosts for their reproduction.
•  Seeing no means to stop them, the Syndicate attempted to stall.
•  They offered to facilitate their Colonization of Earth by creating the ideal means of allowing the black oil to infect hosts while sustaining their hosts.
•  Human abductees would be experimented on to determine the best way to use them as hosts.
•  The Syndicate determined that the alien virus would be best spread through using bees as a delivery system.
•  They discovered that an alien-human hybrid would be the perfect host for the black oil to reproduce itself.
•  They slowed progress on creating this hybrid, hoping that the hybrid would be a way to develop an an anti-black oil vaccine to save themselves.
•  The Syndicate's betrayal was discovered in Season 6 and the aliens killed most of them.
•  In Seasons 8 - 9, the aliens begin deploying supersoldiers -- genetically engineered alien-human hybrids deployed to key government positions.
•  These supersoldiers would replace the Syndicate in facilitating the alien invasion.

Lack of Payoff

•  All of the above was revealed over the course of nine seasons.
•  The secondary plan, after THE X-FILES began to develop its myth-arc in greater detail, was to do five seasons of the show and end with a movie.
•  This feature film would feature the climax of the alien invasion and end THE X-FILES.
•  However, the show was renewed for a sixth season and the plans to do a conclusion in the film were scrapped.
•  The film became big budget episode that didn't end the show.
•  Once THE X-FILES was denied its climax, the problems of the alien myth-arc became very clear.

A Troubled Mythology

•  The alien myth-arc was not planned in advance, resulting in continuity errors throughout.
•  How can creating an alien-human hybrid help the Syndicate survive the invasion? •  The answer that it  could lead to a vaccine doesn't explain how they'd survive violent and technologically advanced aliens.
•  Why are bees being used to deliver a virus that consists of oil?
•  Why has it taken the aliens since 1940 to get started on this invasion and why have they still not begun?
•  If the aliens can create supersoldiers, why do they need humans to create the alien-human hybrid?
•  The individual pieces of the myth-arc, as revealed, did not fit together into a cohesive whole.
•  Further revelations served only to confuse.

A Format That Resists a Myth-Arc

•  The other problem is that tone and format of THE X-FILES was ill-suited to an alien invasion.
•  The show was largely presented as a criminal procedural drama where the heroes investigated monsters.
•  The stories had extremely grounded, down-to-Earth settings with mundane characters.
•  The plots were based in Mulder and Scully observing paranormal phenomena but rarely having any effect on the situation, being mere humans in an unknowable universe.
•  This format is fundamentally incompatible with an alien invasion story.
•  If the aliens invade Earth, the criminal procedural drama format is lost; the story must be focused on fighting a war against aliens.
•  An alien-human war would deprive THE X-FILES of its grounded, down-to-Earth presentation and step entirely into fantasy.
•  This invasion story would also end THE X-FILES as a series.
•  If the aliens win, there are no more X-Files.
•  If the aliens lose, the X-Files serve no purpose; an invasion makes it clear to the world at large that the paranormal is a known fact.
•  Therefore, the alien invasion story was a story that THE X-FILES could never tell or show onscreen in any way.
•  It couldn't fit into the format of the series.
•  It would invalidate any future installments.

Stalling Tactics

•  As a result, the alien myth-arc of THE X-FILES became an exercise in delaying and stalling.
•  Information would be doled out piecemeal.
•  The alien invasion would always be described as coming soon, but it would never arrive.
•  The series finale indicated that the alien invasion would come in Season 20 of THE X-FILES (2012).
•  This finale was yet another instance of kicking the can farther away.

My Struggle: The Retcon

•  THE X-FILES 2016 mini-series opens with an episode declaring that the alien colonization plan was a hoax.
•  It indicates that there was only one significant alien encounter on Earth; the Roswell crash.
•  All alien incursions and events since then have been the government or its shadow controllers using technology stripped from the Roswell ship to create a massive distraction from their true purpose.
•  Their actual endgame has been to control and reshape society into a corporate controlled military industrial complex with a society driven by consumerist capitalism.
•  The alien colonization and its various events were a way of diverting attention away from how the technology was actually being employed.
•  Mulder has suspected this for some time, developing this theory some time after THE X-FILES' ninth season.
•  This episode confirms his suspicions.
•  Reviewers have protested Mulder’s sudden turnaround in abandoning his belief in Colonization; however, dialogue establishes that Mulder has been doubting Colonization ever since 2006 and when the stated 2012 invasion date came and went, his suspicions must have deepened.
•  The Roswell medical doctor ridicules Mulder’s former certainty in the reality of the faceless rebels at war with the colonists at setting people on fire, which happened onscreen.
•  This retcon is entirely at odds with the majority THE X-FILES episodes that featured the alien myth-arc.
•  This retcon is entirely at odds with the majority THE X-FILES episodes that featured the alien myth-arc.
•  The abductions, the Syndicate's desperate attempts to develop a vaccine, the alien human hybrids, the faceless rebels, the bees, supersoldiers -- all were presented as genuine from a third person point of view.
•  The idea that these were all actors or deceived Syndicate members who bought into the hoax is absurd.
•  However, the retcon is no more contradictory to the mythology than the numerous contradictions already within Seasons 1 - 9.

An Admission?

•  If anything, the retcon is an acceptance of reality.
•  Once THE X-FILES failed to deliver an alien invasion in the feature film, the myth-arc was doomed to offer endless stalling until an inevitable anti-climax.
•  There is no way to do an effective alien invasion story in 2016 that serves as a solid finale to THE X-FILES after nine seasons of delaying tactics.
•  The time has passed.
•  There is no way to fulfill the alien invasion story in a manner that does not render the X-FILES format and storytelling platform irrelevant.
•  Therefore, this retcon effectively concedes defeat.
•  From an in-universe perspective, the X-Files must redefine themselves without the alien mythology or the impending invasion.
•  Even without aliens, it still has 67 per cent of its mythos left -- the supernatural and paranormal material that's unrelated to aliens.
•  The absence of aliens creates a void.
•  That void is easily filled by creating new material and new purpose for the X-Files in the twenty-first century.
•  The continuity contradictions resulting from the retcon are unfortunate.
•  They are, however, irrelevant to the majority of THE X-FILES' stories about investigating monsters of the week.
•  The anti-climax of "My Struggle" was an inescapable inevitability THE X-FILES' format once the series missed its chance to do a climactic alien invasion in its feature film.

Disclaimer

•  It is entirely possible that the debunking of the myth-arc in "My Struggle" will be overturned at a later date.
•  In that case, these bullet points about the necessity of doing away with the alien myth-arc may be invalidated.
•  The explanation of the alien colonization plot is based on my recollections of the series and may be inaccurate in various places.
•  The author apologizes for any errors.

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SPOILERS










THE X-FILES is back! Very compelling stuff in that it's intense, riveting dialogue and scripting -- it's a well-told story, although I'm not entirely sure if the story is worth telling. It's a nice little reunion with Mulder and Scully followed by Mulder talking to a UFO abductee, collating that information with a mysterious man he met between the Season 9 finale and this mini-series premiere -- at which point Mulder declares that the entire alien myth-arc of Seasons 1 - 9 has been a lie. The Colonization plot, the war between the Rebels and the Colonists -- that was all the conspiracy using purloined alien technology from a crashed spaceship for their own purposes. There are aliens, but there is no alien invasion, no alien conspiracy -- just human beings having rebuilt alien tech to take over society while creating the diversion of an invasion plot to obscure the truth. The goal behind this deception? Unclear.

Hunnh. On one level, I pretty much always thought it would turn out this way. By that, I mean, when the SEASON 10 comics were announced, I figured writer Joe Harris would use the time gap between the original series and the SEASON 10 comics to declare the alien myth-arc over and done with.

Instead, Harris embraced the mythology whole and sought to build and expand on it while making it clear that the X-FILES myth-arc wasn't about answers, it was about paranoia and terror. The alien myth-arc, in the comics, was treated as like the Cthulu Mythos or the Doctor's name -- something fundamentally unknowable and understandable only as a metaphor.

Chris Carter, however, has decided to blow up his own mythology, declaring his prolonged, overstretched, nonsensical, peretually stalled distraction of a mythos to be a prolonged, overstretched, nonsensical, perpetually stalled distraction in-universe as a way to keep truthseekers like Mulder busy. Honestly, I think this is ridiculous, but actually no more ridiculous than any other aspect of the alien invasion arc on THE X-FILES and actually serves as a means to explain all the inconsistencies and plotholes and lack of payoff over the years.

By treating Colonization as a long-term practical joke, THE X-FILES is actually free to focus once again on the standalone monsters of the week and not get tripped up over long-running threads it couldn't adequately address.

It's an interesting choice. Some long-term viewers are protesting this development. Mulder's had crises of faith before! Mulder's seen plenty of aliens! There were plenty of conspiratorial meetings where shadowy figures discussed the impending alien invasion. But Carter's massive retcon doesn't dismiss the existence of aliens, just the invasion of Earth and also allows for many, many, many parties to have been deceived in order to maintain the deception. It could just about work -- and while some fans are offended, this massive, blanket explanation might be the only means of wrangling the myth-arc into something sensible and suited to broadcast TV again.

While this is indeed the biggest retcon in TV history -- nine years of a show! -- it's also arguable that the alien-episode to monsters-of-the-week ratio means that the aliens were only ever a small part of THE X-FILES no matter how much importance was placed on a few alien episodes at the start and end of each season with a few scattered in between.

It's interesting. I'll withhold judgement on how it could turn out until the end. It is a complete 180 from THE X-FILES of Seasons 1 - 9, but there were plenty of 180s in those nine seasons as well (Samantha Mulder was abducted by fairies, not aliens! Mulder's been dying throughout all of Season 7, but we only find out in Season 8!).

Admittedly, the mini-series might end with declaring that this whole retcon is just a bluff and the myth-arc is real after all.

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Jerry O'Connell tweeted that THE X-FILES' return made him nostalgic for SLIDERS and for the first time ever, I thanked him for his efforts towards a SLIDERS revival. I mean, I've documented his sins against SLIDERS pretty thoroughly, but in the years that followed, he had a change of heart. And he tried. He called Tracy. He tried to find John. It didn't work. But he tried. I appreciate that.

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Behind the Scenes Information Courtesy of Temporal Flux, Keith Damron and Robert Floyd

Strangers and Comrades Trivia

•  This episode was written by Keith Damron, story editor for season 5.
•  He was always going to write episode 3 of Season 5.
•  Originally, the third episode of Season 5 was going to focus on Rembrandt.
•  On a Victorian-steampunk era world, Rembrandt would be caught up in an inventor's dream of exploring space.
•  He would be tempted to leave Maggie, Mallory and Diana, continuing the exploration of how without Jerry O'Connell, the show would collapse and have to be rebuilt.
•  Damron says this was too expensive, so he offered a trench warfare idea instead.
•  I do not believe Damron's claims that the story was rejected on cost grounds. The trench warfare story with tanks and gunfire and explosions would have been just as costly.
•  Likely, it was felt that Victorian steampunk costumes, sets and props were complicated while explosions are easier. Less thought. Less effort.
•  This episode also declares the Season 4 quest for the Kromagg Prime superweapon to be over.
•  Damron, in a chat, said that he pushed to end the Season 4 arc this way so that the sliders would not have to address this plot in every episode and could focus solely on single episode adventures.
•  It was felt that with the ongoing quest to stick Colin and split the Quinns, searching for Kromagg Prime was one ongoing plot too many.
•  For whatever reason, this episode fails to explain why the sliders haven't slid to Kromagg Prime with the Slidecage-bypassing equations.
•  Or why they didn't try using a Slidewave or the virus in "Mother and Child" or try stealing the weapon in "Revelations" even if it was from the wrong Earth.
•  This episode was written during a period when it was still undecided if Mallory would be a composite of Jerry and Rob, Jerry's mind in Rob's body or Rob with access to Jerry's memories, with the freelance writers getting conflicting notes.
•  According to Rob, the writers were extremely undecided on who Mallory would be during this stage.
•  As a result, Rob was scripted generically with the possibility of adding in Jerry-moments that were not added in.

The Great Work Trivia

•  We have our first freelance script of the season from writer Robert Masello.
•  Masello's original idea  for this episode: the sliders encounter an interdimensional library that is protecting information and history from the Kromaggs.
•  However, with "Strangers and Comrades" having Kromaggs, Dial and Damron decided to alter the story.
•  They made the futuristic interdimensional library a primitive island monastery with only the knowledge of this single world.
•  They removed the Kromaggs.
•  Dial and Damron heavily rewrote the story to make it as cheap and easy to film as possible.
•  If you look at this story, you can see all the problems of "Revelations," the Season 4 finale that was also scripted by Bill Dial off somebody else's story.
•  The action sequences and myth-arc relevant scenes have been removed.
•  The page count is then padded by stretching out existing scenes and adding new scenes with the new dialogue consisting largely of characters reiterating information that was already established.
•  This was Bill Dial's approach to running SLIDERS in Season 5, an approach that Damron followed in his own rewrites.
•  Several Season 5 episodes feature this overstretched, repetitive rewrite style, especially in "Please Press One," "The Java Jive," "Requiem," "Map of the Mind," "To Catch a Slider," "Dust" and "Eye of the Storm."
•  Other alterations: Masello told by production to write Mallory as a melded personality of both Rob and Jerry.
•  The script originally had Mallory using Quinn's scientific knowledge in performing the data-to-crystal transfer.
•  This was removed as Dial and Damron lost interest in the Mallory-identity crisis (for reasons to be further explored in the next episode's notes).
•  Matt Hutaff felt that "Strangers and Comrades," ideally, should have been the Victorian steampunk episode and "The Great Work" should have had the Kromaggs attacking the interdimensional library -- with the library's technology and information used to wrap up the Season 4 arc in some way.
•  Instead, "The Great Work" is simply overstretched fragments of a fractured story.
•  This attitude to scripting really disappointed actor Robert Floyd, who found it obnoxious to repeat already established information.
•  Floyd would meet with Bill Dial constantly, voicing his concerns about the repetitive scripts.
•  Floyd: "At least once a week, I would go in to see him. He would always have time and he would always work with me. We would go to lunch and he was a really special guy, a really loving guy who absolutely adored the show. He was so smart. But I felt like the producers and the writers were so under the gun to produce the show that they just didn’t have the answers."
•  The fans referred to episodes like "The Great Work" on the Bboard as suffering from "Season 5 Sabotage."
•  According to Temporal Flux, Bill Dial would systematically take great ideas like an interdimensional library and apply his bizarre scripting approach to rewrite them into unwatchable tedium.
•  Why was Bill Dial treating his own show in such a shabby manner for Season 5, especially when his nemesis, Marc Scott Zicree, had quit?
•  My theory: Bill Dial had dependent personality disorder.
•  He was overly dependent upon the encouragement and praise of others.
•  Before Season 5, Dial contacted Tracy Torme and Dial seemed hell-bent on impressing Torme, showering Torme in his plans for Season 5 with Jerry in six episodes.
•  Dial attempted to present Marc Scott Zicree's Season 4 finale story as Dial's own Season 5, Episode 5 story.
•  He wanted Torme to like him and was taking credit for Zicree's stories.
•  When the Sci-Fi Channel cut off contact with SLIDERS, Dial became depressed.
•  Temporal Flux provides a clear account of the Sci-Fi Channel's indifference to the show.
•  Sci-Fi had renewed SLIDERS for Season 5, but renewed too late to keep Jerry O'Connell.
•  Unable to rescind the renewal, they were now obligated to air a Season 5 they assumed would fail.
•  They stopped reading scripts or reviewing episodes.
•  They gave up on SLIDERS and I think this made Dial so angry and unhappy that he simply couldn't bring his A-game to the show, an A-game he'd shown in "Prophets and Loss" and "Asylum."
•  In contrast, Torme would have thrived under an indifferent network.
•  Torme would have loved to make SLIDERS with no network executives weighing in on his stories.
•  Dial, in contrast, felt abandoned and his writing in Season 5 reflects this unhappy state.
•  My thinking is that someone with such a poor sense of self maybe shouldn't be working in managerial positions.

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Okay, I nominated and downloaded the excerpt. I'll read it later.

In a moment of hilarity, the Chromebook app for Netflix is better than the Windows 10 app for Netflix -- Windows 10 has Netflix's lists showing in a single line of titles and the touch interface is confused and contradictory while the Chromebook app is just the website in a window with no unnecessary attempts to re-invent the wheel. And Chromebook apps run on PCs. Oh well. Maybe looking down on the T100 Chi for being a lousy tablet would be like dismissing Stephen Hawking for losing a marathon.

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I'll say this much: TV isn't really a medium where forward planning is always an asset. Not to provoke Informant's rage, but J. Michael Straczynski exhaustively planned out BABYLON 5 and by the end of the show, the plan had been messed around with quite a bit. Actors in the Pilot with lengthy arcs declined to return to the show, necessitating new creations to fill those roles. Actors in those roles would then depart -- the lead actor of the series, the telepath whose powers were critical. A Season 4 cancellation necessitated that the entire arc for Season 5 be folded into Season 4 -- and then the show got renewed, resulting in a Season 5 that had no reason to exist.

TV is better served when forward planning is more in the sense of having courses to take for different opportunities. Neil Gaiman called it building doors -- the knowledge that he'd left a door that could be opened, although he might move down the hallway some more and find another door instead. So, in terms of the grave, TV history would indicate that the best route is to have multiple possibilities for who dies and multiple plans for how to capitalize on whichever route they end up going.

Whether or not ARROW's writing staff is actually doing this is another question entirely.

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*groans*

Why oh why oh why oh why did Tim Kring, knowing this was a single-season mini-series, END ON A CLIFFHANGER?!?!?!?!?

Tim Kring is teasing (and threatening) some follow-up to HEROES REBORN, NBC president Bob Greenblatt (also the guy who called SLIDERS in Season 3 to be much stronger than Seasons 1 - 2) said that if Kring had more ideas, there could be more HEROES. Ugh.

The sad thing is, the series finale wasn't even that bad, but it had the best and worst of HEROES. Unlike the previous episodes, it was filled with incident and didn't feel slow and stalled. Like the previous episodes, there was no care for theme, characterization and storytelling. With some tweaks and adjustments, HEROES REBORN could have been about sacrifice.

If Claire's death had been presented as her sacrificing herself for her children, if Tommy's identity crisis had been shown as him sacrificing his identity to save the world, if Carlos' issue had been that he'd taken credit for someone else giving up their lives -- then Noah's death would have worked. But REBORN was far, far too late in indicating that Malina and Tommy's powers could combine while being lethal to the conduit.

It's a real shame, and it just goes to show how HEROES REBORN would have been better off if Tim Kring would take a step back from writing and hire someone else to produce the scripts.

Oh, hey, this podcast still exists! Haha!

A terrific podcast as always, but one thing jumped out at me -- when Mr. Stargate declares his favourite scenes involved Wade and Quinn happily signing over their doubles' wealth to Razor Gillette -- pointing out that the sliders can do whatever they like because once they leave this world, they're never coming back.

More than anyone, Mr. Stargate has truly captured what makes SLIDERS special with this off-the-cuff observation. The sliders operate on a storytelling engine that is fundamentally about the characters sliding into other people's stories and breaking the narrative flow and creating a collapse. And this leads to the sliders revealing the power of sliding. Sliding gives them the ability to cheat the narrative, to slip between the rules of the genres they encounter, to shift the restrictions of stories without breaking or damaging them, and in doing so, they can make the stories stronger.

Mr. Stargate is the one of the few people to truly understand SLIDERS and what's astonishing and delightful is that he doesn't even like the show that much seems to have hit upon this entirely by accident.

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Behind the Scenes Information Courtesy of Temporal Flux

The Unstuck Man

  • This information comes from Temporal Flux of DoC and Robert Floyd, who played Mallory (I interviewed him last year for Earth Prime).

  • You can look at my notes on "Revelations" regarding the original plans for writing Jerry out of the series until Jerry refused to appear at all (they were going to do the original "Revelations" plot for episode 5, but end with Quinn escaping Kromagg Prime back home (to the Earth in the Pilot, not the one in "Genesis" but failing to take Rembrandt and Maggie).

  • Quinn would return for the series finale.

  • After Jerry severed all ties with the show, production decided to use old footage of Jerry and Charlie from Season 4 and have them 'morph' into Kromaggs to suggest they'd been replaced at some unspecified point in the previous season.

  • Jerry caught wind of this and blocked Season 5 from using his image or voice.

  • At this point, Keith Damron came up with the idea of Quinn regenerating into a different actor while still being the same character. He stole this regeneration concept from DOCTOR WHO.

  • A casting search located Robert Floyd, who'd been in numerous stageplays and guest-shows and was a classically trained Shakespearean actor (although his studies at the Royal Academy in England were curtailed due to a death in the family and a return to the States to be there for his loved ones).

  • Floyd bore some resemblance to Jerry and was hired on that basis. Looking at the Season 5 production, I get the sense he was not hired for his acting talent even though he was an incredibly gifted and devoted performer who had refined his craft magnificently with extensive training and experience.

  • According to Robert Floyd, the production was *extremely* unclear on whether he was playing Quinn Mallory in a different body or if he was playing a different character who could access Quinn's memories or if he was playing a merged version where both personalities had melded into a new persona. The script pages were contradictory.

  • (These contradictory pieces of information were also passed onto the Season 5 freelance writers who wrote most of Season 5's cripts, resulting in a seriously schizophrenic depiction of Mallory for Season 5, but we'll get into that later.)

  • Mr. Floyd (or Rob, as he prefers to be called -- you pick!) had to decide for himself what he wanted to do, so he proceeded to get plenty of Jerry O'Connell episodes on VHS and watch them. He hired an acting coach, John Kirby, to work out how to approach the character.

  • First, Rob worked out how to imitate Jerry's voice and body language; the delivery, the intonations, the accent, the pitch, the diction, the posture, the expressions, the movements, the motions.

  • Then, Rob and Mr. Kirby would review the scripts and pick out individual moments, deciding which parts were Quinn and which parts were 'Mallory.'

  • According to the scripts, although this was never definitively decided, the feeling was that Robert Floyd's Quinn Mallory was a fraternal double of the original Quinn: one of his parents had been a different person from the one that the original Quinn had had.

  • None of this was decided by the production, although a cut line of dialogue from "The Unstuck Man" indicates that Rob's Quinn had Michael Mallory for a father, meaning his mother must have been a different woman.

  • Originally, this episode would have Rembrandt and Mallory agreeing that Mallory would be called "Michael" (his father's name) to differentiate him from Quinn, but this was cut and dropped (although it remains in numerous draft scripts).

  • Rob's feeling was that by the mid-point of the story, Mallory is in control of the body, but Quinn's thoughts, memories and wishes are now informing and guiding his behaviour. That's why, when confronting Geiger, Rob uses Jerry's intonations and body language but doesn't imitate the voice.

  • Rob was very excited about playing Mallory and felt that Mallory would ideally be a character with a constant identity crisis, constantly making the audience guess whether it was Jerry's Quinn or Rob's Quinn talking, and occasionally melding together if in agreement.

  • Rob wanted his Quinn to be the cunning, self-absorbed, practical criminal while Jerry's Quinn would be a moral and idealistic scientist and both would conflict.

  • His only concern: he didn't want to only imitate Jerry, but he was cool with doing that so long as it was one part of an identity crisis.

  • That way, he wouldn't be copying Jerry, he would be paying tribute to "a great actor and the guy who really built the show."

  • Again, this didn't really work out, but you have to admire Rob's devotion and commitment to the role.

  • By that, I mean the opening scene with the body doubles for Jerry and Charlie: they used an unknown voice in production to voice Quinn saying, "Go! Go!"'

  • This doesn't make any sense: why didn't they have Rob impersonate the voice?

  • The answer: there isn't an answer. Rob wasn't called in to record the line and wasn't aware that someone else had performed it; he would have been happy to do it, but nobody asked him to.

  • The truth, according to TF: production didn't seem to expect that Rob to be doing a Jerry O'Connell impression, they were unaware of Rob being a gifted mimic and impressionist.

  • They simply noticed he looked a bit like Jerry.

  • The production, specifically Bill Dial, was also angry at Jerry for leaving SLIDERS under bad terms and not particularly keen on paying tribute to someone he was angry at.

  • Production certainly noticed that Rob could do Jerry's voice, but they didn't bother to change their recording plans and simply went ahead with using an unknown voice -- maybe a sound technician's? -- for the "Go! Go!"

  • SO GOD DAMN STUPID!

  • According to TF: Conrad Bennish Jr. was supposed to be in this episode, playing the doomsday preacher and five additional episodes.

  • Keith Damron, script editor for Season 5, said that Temporal Flux was mistaken / lying / wrong,

  • According to Matt Hutaff, who interviewed Tracy in 2009: prior to Season 5, Bill Dial contacted Tracy Torme and asked: what would Torme like to see in Season 5?

  • Torme said Bennish. Dial agreed. Torme later heard from the actor, Jason Gaffney, saying that plans were in place to fly him out from Vancouver to LA to perform in six episodes.

  • Then suddenly, the deal was cancelled and production was denying this ever happened.

  • Temporal Flux suspects that David Peckinpah simply saw a chance to sabotage something Torme wanted by blocking Gaffney's hiring.

Applied Physics

  • According to Rob: At this point, production still wasn't sure about how Mallory would turn out, and Rob decided to play this episode as Mallory in control of the body but constantly struck with Quinn's memories, which he considered a betrayal of his own body and retriggered the trauma of having once been crippled and unable to use his legs, only this time, it was his whole body.

  • Rob had hopes for this arc: perhaps Mallory would come to appreciate having Quinn's memories. Rob wanted them to share the body as distinct personalities.

  • This episode features Tembi Locke, who had a career playing recurring and single guest roles before SLIDERS. SLIDERS appears to be her first guest role.

  • According to Temporal Flux: The original conception for Dr. Diana Davis: she joined the sliders to betray them.

  • She was secretly looking for a way to help Geiger regain a hold in the multiverse.

  • She wasn't necessarily evil, just trying to save her mentor -- it was unclear how much of an enemy she'd be, but there was no plan to remove her from the series, so she and the sliders would have found a way to stick together.

  • This plan was abruptly aborted halfway into the writing of this episode.

  • The reason: the majority of the scripts for Season 5 were from freelancers and production found it too annoying to try to work in a multi-episode plot among freelance writers who would be working separate from the main writing staff (Chris Black, Keith Damron, Bill Dial) and the other freelancers.

  • This setup is unusual for American TV: usually, shows have a huge writing staff, but Season 5's budget kept them at three people plus David Peckinpah, who, at this time, was busy executive producing TURKS.

  • This is also the reason why the Mallory identity crisis would be abandoned.

  • The production couldn't keep it straight whether Mallory was a merged personality of both Jerry and Rob in a new persona, Rob with Jerry's memories, Jerry in Rob's body -- so the freelance writers got conflicting notes and instructions.

  • Some were told to write Michael' (as he was still being called) as a generic male lead, others were told to script him as a scientist some were asked to write him as a criminal.

  • Production would have to rewrite the scripts afterwards to make it consistent.

  • After all the headaches with this, the multi-episode plot for Diana was dropped as well.

  • "Applied Physics" is one of the most popular episodes of Season 5.

  • Chris Black studied past episodes extensively to write it, wanting to really mine Jerry's departure for emotion and had to rewatch episodes to choose clips that didn't include Jerry (as he'd blocked the use of his image).

  • During the writing of this episode, Bill Dial noticed that the Sci-Fi Channel was not sending him notes on scripts and not reviewing their cuts of the episodes.

  • TF points to this episode: note how the Kromagg's gun is aimed at Mallory's chest. Standards and practices for Sci-Fi at the time did not allow firearms to be aimed at heads.

  • Dial sent Sci-Fi pages where a character's head gets blown off.
    Sci-Fi sent no response, indicating they weren't reading the scripts.

  • This made Bill Dial very unhappy with dire consequences for SLIDERS to follow.

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tom2point0 wrote:
pilight wrote:

I wonder if they're going to retire the Alan Rickman impression now

We were actually going to retire the whole Quick Impressions bit for the new season but since the behind the scenes stuff and deleted scenes is on par with how we did season 4, we decided to keep it in!

Alan Rickman lives on for us!

Whoa, it's the voice of the DEAD!

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I've been writing up the notes ahead of time for the boys so I can get back to writing scripts. I just wrote up the trivia for a particular episode near the end, and in discussing it, I felt compelled to write up a list and description of The Ten Most Hated People in SLIDERS.

There's also "Cleavant Derricks ****ing hated this episode" and "This was the point where Cleavant lost all hope for SLIDERS and knew it was game over."

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I would argue that Kring is a genius at conception who simply needs another genius to help him (re)write all the scripts. But outside of Fuller, he has never sought that collaborator, and as a result, TOUCH and HEROES REBORN are just embarrassments. Imagine if Josh Friedman (SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES) had been asked to take Kring's REBORN ideas but shepherd the stories from outlines to shooting scripts and rewrite every scene.

I suspect a lot of the casting choices were due to budget. The HEROES REBORN actors are all excellent. I wouldn't blame them for any of the material aside from their agreeing to perform it. All the ideas here -- digitizing superpowers! Picking up years after the Season 4 cliffhanger! Creating distance from Sylar and Peter! The twins! The villains are actually trying to save humanity! There's neat stuff here -- but it would have been best if Kring had written brief summaries of the 13-episodes -- and then had a collaborator taking over fleshing out each episode and making sure each installment and each arc were focused, tight and meaningful and that every character's line and action informed and revealed.

A lot of the developments are just artless. For example, the idea that Tommy is actually suffering from amnesia is not built to -- there aren't clues and hints that mislead but fit. The memory wipe, as a blanket explanation, doesn't explain why Tommy doesn't notice all the gaps in his memory. There's a lot of blatant filler in these episodes like the videogame segments. None of the scenes for Luke actually address his hatred for superhumans and discovering he's one of them. These are all problems that, I think, are present in any first draft; it's important to then refine, rewrite and revise.

Instead, I often get the sense that Kring is just not going through the process of developing and reworking his material. This was something Bryan Fuller did for him and, for whatever reason, Kring has failed to find someone else to perform that role. I don't know why. When Fuller returned to HEROES for Volume 4 ("Fugitives," where the government is hunting superhumans), Kring readily deferred to Fuller, so it's not like Kring was dismissive of collaboration at a later date.

Not a popular opinion here: I thought Volume 4 was excellent. I'm not saying it wasn't filled with logical errors, but with Fuller back, everything made *emotional* sense. And then, with Volume 5, the circus, -- I know you guys liked it, but to me, it was much like HEROES REBORN -- slow, bland, vague and boring.

When HEROES REBORN was finding writers, there were plenty of available veterans writers from BUFFY, ANGEL, SMALLVILLE, THE DEAD ZONE, LIE TO ME out there, all with experience writing superhero shows filled with stirring visuals and punchy dialogue and striking characters. Kring is good at conception, he needs a partner to help him write the scripts.

It's a real shame he didn't do this and it's a really sad way for HEROES to go out.

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I actually like Volumes 1 and 4 a lot. Volume 2 was interesting but an awkward abortion. Volume 3 started well but got convoluted. Volume 5 was boring.

In my view, HEROES REBORN could have been excellent. The problem wasn't the ideas. Kring is always full of ideas. The problem is that he executes brilliant ideas without the imagination, skill, care or cleverness needed to make them funny, dramatic, compelling and exciting. There were perfectly worthwhile character arcs here.

The first thing I'd have done: I'd have trimmed down the characters. There were too many people spread across the globe, especially for 13 episodes. So, I'd stick to three pairings: Noah Bennett and Quintin, Tommy and Miko, Erica and Taylor -- with characters like serial killers Luke & Joanne and Farah & Malina allowed to rotate in the slot for the fourth pairing.

I'd have made Tommy the fanboy of Katana Girl who can't remember how he ended up in Tokyo and ending up in an international spy movie, Noah and Quintin a buddy cop film, and Erica and Taylor as the antagonists of the story.

The second thing I'd have done: I'd just have used Bryan Fuller's technique for handling Tim Kring's stuff. Erica's character arc is a mess because the efforts to make her a nuanced antagonist consisted of her spouting vagaries and dodging questions while claiming it was all for a good cause. Noah and Quintin's scenes were purely expository; there was no in-depth focus on how they deal with regret and loss; Noah's regret makes him angry and dangerous while Quintin's regret makes him desperate and fearful, and both help each other heal and move forward. Erica is a crusader whose daughter, Taylor the knight errant, is losing faith in the cause but afraid to think her mother would be wrong.

I genuinely think that Tim Kring comes up with good stories -- he just doesn't tell them well.

Whenever Bryan Fuller was present on Volumes 1 and 4, the above-approach alleviated all of Kring's problems. The slow-moving plots were treated as an opportunity to go all character oriented. The nonsensical characterization in Kring's plots would, from Fuller, be depictions of troubled and conflicted characters. Subtract the Fuller-influence and presentation and you end up with HEROES REBORN.

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At one point, Taylor snaps at Erica Kravid: "Enough STALLING!" And then Matt Parkman's character arc ends in a literal car crash. There comes a point when writers, having lost their way and knowing it, end up handing this sort of thing to their critics.

omnimercurial wrote:

It is the rewriting of reality/multiverse I have issues with as I pointed out at an earlier point. Any Change Quinn makes to the Multiverse would essentially create a Split leading to Two Multiverses. One with the Rewriting Mguffin and One without as per established Canon. In effect we just end up with a magnified Reality Divergence event.... Except it is now a Mulriversal Divergence Event by Title and Scope.

Well. The simplest explanation that comes to mind is that Quinn commandeered a Kromagg reality warping weapon and made his own modifications. I'm sure Kromagg arsenals have lots of perceptual conceptual armaments. So Quinn found one -- and changed it. The weapon would alter universal constants, change the very nature of reality itself, and do so retroactively, making it so that the changed reality would have always been so.

The nature of the change: originally, Quinn unlocked the gateway to parallel universes by accessing the fundamental interactions within gravity fields. The weapon would switch this so that sliding is now unlocked by tapping into electromagnetic interactions, and retroactively, this has always been the case.

As a result, Quinn's experiments in anti-gravity in 1994 are altered; they never opened a gateway. This is the case for all Quinns in all realities. The Kromaggs, too, experience the same: I'm suggesting with this theory that they discovered sliding when creating their gravity negating aircraft; they succeed, but they don't discover sliding and their civilization remains bound to their own Earth.

The only remnants: the videotape journals and Smarter-Quinn, a paradoxical fragment of the previous multiverse, one preserved deliberately by suspending the tapes between dimensions, the other preserved accidentally by the same means.

I don't think any of this really *matters*, however -- because none of this is why I suggest it. I suggest it because the sliders are superheroes. And superheroes always come back. The sliders' superpower: they have the power to cheat the narrative and side-step the natural and normal consequences of other genres and structures.

For the sliders, death is but a door and the sliding concept and storytelling engine is an avenue to evading any kind of narrative collapse and in turn must allow the sliders to be saved from being detonated, deleted, cyberneticized or getting their TV show cancelled -- or having to be revived in one of those god-awful Season 6 plots in the other thread.

What I'm trying to say: the idea that Seasons 1 - 5 were erased is a metaphor. SLIDERS was cancelled. The idea that Quinn erased sliding from all realities is a metaphor for the fallout of the cancellation: everything good and meaningful and special about SLIDERS was taken away.

To be fair, this is probably silly fanboy psychodrama stuff and I wouldn't fault anyone for thinking it best to do the older doubles route without this multiversal retcon element. I mean, SLIDERS REBORN explicitly declares that the 2000 cancellation of SLIDERS destroyed our world and doomed us all, so -- I'm kind of nuts.

The idea that Quinn, having forgotten sliding, rediscovers it in 2016, is a representation of my faith in the SLIDERS format -- it'll come back. They'll always come back.

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Seeing Matt Parkman hold a defenseless woman at gunpoint and threaten her for three wristwatches was just contemptible. For God's sake -- Matt was a police officer and a good one! He believed in protecting the innocent and defenseless and there was no need for him to put a gun to Taylor's head! All he had to do was read Erica's mind; instead, Kring has written a formerly sweet, sincere figure as a malicious, sadistic monstrosity and with no more rationalization than a brief rant about wanting his due in life.

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The thing is, HEROES has no more plot holes than any other fantasy series I enjoy. I loved SMALLVILLE and read all the comic books, for God's sake. But HEROES REBORN has no emotion, no heart, no depth, no meaning, no joy, no wonder, no imagination. It's just plot, and it's not a particularly rewarding or engaging plot and what REBORN did to Matt Parkman is a crime against humanity.

Well. I did steal the title from this series for SLIDERS REBORN. Originally, SLIDERS REBORN was going to be SLIDERS: QUANTUM QUINTOLOGY and I think we can agree that REBORN is a much more striking banner.

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Well. HEROES REBORN is cancelled. Honestly, I can't believe Tim Kring had so many years to bring his series back and so much opportunity to do something great and instead produced this tedious mess. No relatable characters. A clumsy, nonsensical plot that's stretched out with stalling methods and delaying tactics that would make Bill Dial balk. Random characterization with people making onscreen decisions so baffling it's impossible to take it seriously -- like Hiro telling his TELEPORTING, TIME TRAVELING son to ABANDON him to fight clone soldiers alone for no adequately explained reason.

With Season 1, all these flaws were present -- but Bryan Fuller was helping rewrite all the scripts. Shifting it so that the delaying tactics came off as opportunities to have actors interact and reveal their characters. The plot would be slow, but we would become close to the characters. The characters, when doing nonsensical things, would see their behaviour rationalized through Fuller's in-depth characterization revealing their flaws and errors in judgement. Without Fuller, the scripts are simply exposition and the exposition is incoherent.

NBC should have refused to resurrect HEROES unless Tim Kring were restricted to a non-creative position. He's great at casting. He's great at production. He's great at finding amazing directors and making sure they have first-rate locations and effects and cinematography and the actual writing should have been led by someone else. Fuller would not have been available, so somebody else -- Jane Espenson and David Fury (BUFFY, ANGEL), Doris Egan (HOUSE, SMALLVILLE), Bryan Q. Miller (SMALLVILLE, BATGIRL), Chris Black (SLIDERS, UGLY BETTY), Michael Taylor (BATTLESTAR GALACTICA) -- someone with wit, a sense of myth and legend and with some experience writing superheroes. Fuller understood what Kring clearly doesn't: superheroes are a mythic representation of idealized human potential, something Kring understands but doesn't know how to evoke or portray. Volumes 2, 3 and 5 made it very clear: Kring needed someone to help him out with that, and any one of the above writers would have been able to rewrite his scenes the way Fuller did.

HEROES REBORN is a disgraceful abomination to the franchise.