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And now from Berlanti, a Green Lantern series and Strange Adventures, but on the streaming service HBOmax:

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/green- … 203387210/

If Berlanti looks at the comics history (and he’s surprised me at how closely he often does with Flash), then Strange Adventures featured characters like Captain Comet, Animal Man, Deadman, Enchantress, Adam Strange, The Atomic Knights and the Immortal Man (who later had a connection to a great character called Resurrection Man).  Strange Adventures even featured the 25th century Space Museum (which was later part of the origin of Booster Gold).

Will also be interesting to see how they pull off Green Lantern in space.  But in the end, it’s going to be planetside based scenes too.  I really don’t see it being more complicated or costly than something like Stargate SG-1 or Farscape.  The Green Lantern constructs will be the complicated thing if anything.

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And that rumor of a Spidey appearance in Captain Marvel 2 persists.  The previous (seemingly slanted) rumor had Spidey appearing only as a screw-up that Captain Marvel constantly has to save.  The slant of the rumor was that she would also be very emasculating to Spidey during all of this to make herself and female empowerment look better.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainmen … -mcu.html/

It is a shame, really.  People should be laughing with Spidey and not laughing at Spidey.  Maybe Sony does need to just take full control and cut Marvel out.

Sony should cut Marvel out because... there are rumours? Wouldn’t there be rumours regardless?

The last Kevin Feige spoke of CAPTAIN MARVEL II, he said he wanted to explore Carol’s adventures in space between her first film and ENDGAME. Unless Tom Holland’s Peter gets the Captain Universe powers, I don’t think Spider-Man would have a role. We’ll see, but given the overwhelmingly positive reaction to HOMECOMING and FAR FROM HOME, why should a rumour suddenly have people who’ve enjoyed the Feige/Holland era suddenly declare Feige doesn’t know the character? You’ve lost me on this one, although your SPIDER-MAN TEAM UP point is certainly irrefutable.

“Maybe” was included in the statement because of the uncertainty.  We’ll see what happens; and even I think the emasculation aspect is a slant by someone with an agenda.

The most likely tie between Spider-man and Captain Marvel are the Skrulls; and they could be more ingrained in Spidey’s life than just a random appearance of Nick Fury.

https://www.inverse.com/article/55388-a … el-phase-4

The issue would be what happens if the Kree find those Skrulls leaving Spidey in the crossfire.  That’s where he would most likely fall into a Captain Marvel appearance.

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One nice Easter egg from the Flash episode:

https://screenrant.com/flash-arrowverse-multiverse-map/

Look at where the red arrow was pointing.  Jay knew Earth 2 was about to be destroyed (which we then immediately saw happen on Arrow).

As for the Batman mask, this article gives a suggestion:

https://screenrant.com/arrow-season-8-b … athstroke/

You have to remember that Earth 2 is opposite world.  Batman was likely a villain on Earth 2 and as such stepped into the shoes of Deathstroke.  The Batman mask was likely meant as our first clue that Ollie was on Earth 2.

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Rumors suggesting that Spidey Marvel Team-Up will continue - this time with Doctor Strange:

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/cap … iderman-3/

And that rumor of a Spidey appearance in Captain Marvel 2 persists.  The previous (seemingly slanted) rumor had Spidey appearing only as a screw-up that Captain Marvel constantly has to save.  The slant of the rumor was that she would also be very emasculating to Spidey during all of this to make herself and female empowerment look better.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainmen … -mcu.html/

It is a shame, really.  People should be laughing with Spidey and not laughing at Spidey.  Maybe Sony does need to just take full control and cut Marvel out.

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If true, some very convincing evidence that a cameo is just a “red skies” crossover.

https://heroichollywood.com/titans-dc-u … te-earths/

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Looks like a new DC Crisis in the summer of 2020, and 5G in the fall of 2020

https://www.comicsbeat.com/everything-w … comics-5g/

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I liked the explanation Marvel gave a few years ago - their timeline is reset every 10 years or so, and usually nobody in the Marvel Universe even notices.  The only way to really tell is by looking at the molecules of a cosmic cube. Like the rings on a tree, they gain an electron for every reset.  Currently they’re at 8.

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Some interesting things afoot at DC Comics.  The dam kind of broke on it with the revelation at New York ComicCon of a new official DC timeline to be used in the comics going forward.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/10/06 … line-1999/

The timeline starts in 1939 with Generation 1 - Wonder Woman enters the world stage.

Generation 2 where Superman and Batman enter the world stage.

Generation 3 Crisis on Infinite Earths where we start to see new heroes taking over - like Wally West becoming the Flash.

Generation 4 starts the modern stories from New 52 through Rebirth to now.

The interesting thing is the “now”.   By their new timeline, the stories we’re reading now would be happening in 1999.  That would mean there are 20 years that hasn’t been told yet.

How can this be?  It’s likely going to be the consequences of Doomsday Clock set to finally end in December.  In Doomsday Clock, we’ve discovered that Dr. Manhattan (from Watchmen) entered the DC Universe in 1939 and became fascinated by how history was affected by the heroes.  He took a particular interest in Superman, and Dr. Manhattan began to experiment by altering history to move Superman’s debut further and further ahead in time to see how it would affect each era.

https://www.polygon.com/comics/2019/5/3 … e-timeline

Doomsday Clock #12 in December features the final face off between Superman and Dr. Manhattan which is to likely result in either Manhattan’s defeat or death.  If that happens - is it going to snap the timeline back to what it was supposed to be before Manhattan’s meddling?

Couple this with other reports that next year will see a new Batman with Bruce Wayne believed to be dead but secretly the mentor of the new Batman (ala Batman Beyond).

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/09/03 … uce-wayne/

Under the new proposed timeline, Bruce would be in his 80’s.  It matches up if next year sees a 20 year time jump to place DC stories in the new present day.  Looking to be interesting times ahead for DC Comics.

Of course, all of this will end with another line-wide reboot. It’s very unlikely DC would go more than a year without Clark, Bruce, etc in their iconic, younger roles.

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And now the old Birds of Prey tv series getting pulled in:

https://tvline.com/2019/09/26/birds-of- … -huntress/

And it would be pretty easy to get Rachel Skarsten to reprise her Black Canary.  Skarsten is already starring on Batwoman as the main villain.

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In the comics, they did a quasi-sequel to Crisis called Zero Hour: A Crisis in Time.  The idea was that this time various time lines were being destroyed (which is not a firm distinction from parallel worlds, in my opinion); and as time collapsed, the various histories began to overlap.

The comics visually represented this by having each character presented in their original art style from that period:

https://theunspokendecade.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/018-superman-the-man-of-steel-37-page-8.jpg

This is kind of what’s happening with the actors in the Arrowverse shows.  The comics didn’t try to explain why the Batmen looked different; they just put it out there, let those different personalities interact and fans just took it as a neat little nod to the history they knew or a pointer to check out things they hadn’t seen before.

But from a dimensional perspective as is currently theorized, we perceive reality different depending on what dimension we’re looking at it through (dimensions still denoted as a way of measurement and not a metaphysical concept as many often take it).

We live in the 3rd dimension of solid objects with length, width and height.  We master that.

We can perceive the 4th dimension of time but only in a limited, one way manner.  Travel or perspectives from the 4th dimension are Avengers: Endgame logic.  You can change whatever you want in the past, but the future you return to will always be the one you left.  You’re on one track - if you want to see that alternate future, you’re taking the long way.

The 5th dimension is alternate timelines.  This is Back to the Future.  You change something in the past; and when you return to the future, you’re now on the new timeline and don’t get to go back to the old timeline.

The 6th dimension is parallel probabilities.  For this, you don’t need time travel or any effort to make alternate time lines; you simply walk from one to the other.  These alternate realities will be things that look familiar.

The 7th dimension moves us into parallel possibilities.  The laws of physics begin to break down from what we understand.  You start seeing things that don’t make as much sense to you, but there is still some sense of things you do understand.  This begins to move us into areas of magic and folklore the further into the 7th dimension you go.

The progression on Sliders was showing us just how lost they became as time passed.  Like someone walking away from their house, they are at first going to see things and landmarks they recognize.  But the further out they go, they are exposed to things they never expected or even believed existed.

I believe what caused the Sliders to become so startlingly lost in season three started with Logan swapping out parts on the timer for less reliable technology (Double Cross was meant to be the first episode of season three).  The Sliders were pushed further toward the edges of the 6th dimension dipping into the 7th when they swapped to the Egyptian timer and it’s technology.  The Sliders were pushed even further toward the 7th dimension when they began to follow the path blazed by the more powerful Rickman timer.

So this is where I would put the actors playing dual roles in the Arrowverse Crisis. Characters like the Brandon Routh Superman are coming from the far side of the multiverse where realities start to bleed into the 7th dimension where things start to not make sense.  As the antimatter wave  progresses consuming the multiverse, it’s going to flush out these oddball refugees of alternate realities that are retreating toward Earth 1 (or at least that’s how I would handle it).  But these characters will be those that the Arrowverse characters would have never interacted with but for the collapse of the multiverse forcing it - the characters were simply too far apart until the multiverse began to “shrink”.

Incidentally, by our modern theories Mxyzptlk would most likely be from the 10th dimension.  However, he was established as being from the 5th dimension so many decades ago that they are unlikely to ever change it.

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And looks like the new DC show hinted at is just a spin-off of Arrow.  Guess they could call it Arrow Beyond:

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/arrow- … 203347438/

It’s okay, I guess.  I had hoped they would at least give us a different family of characters (like a Question series featuring the Charlton heroes).

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For me, they’ve got to give these cameos a little more than a non-speaking 5 second clip.  In some cases (like Kevin Conroy), a speaking part is even needed - many wouldn’t recognize him otherwise.

And who doesn’t want Burt Ward to look up at the red skies and at least say “Holy sh...” before his words get cut off.

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No Rosenbaum.

https://www.cbr.com/smallville-michael- … o0eEdEUGc.

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Found this which sheds some light on things:

https://screenrant.com/spiderman-tv-rig … explained/

According to the contract, Sony's rights encompass the following areas:

Live-action and animated movies

Live-action TV series

Animated series with episodes longer than 44 minutes

So Disney’s tv rights are much more limited than I thought; but they do have the plum spot for animated series.  An hour long animated series (accounting for commercials) isn’t going to be very appealing to networks.

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It would actually be a wink at the original comics story.

When Crisis was released, the monthly titles that were tied in had a special masthead stating “Special Crisis Crossover”:

https://cloud10.todocoleccion.online/comics-usa/tc/2019/05/13/10/163684134.jpg

Some were legitimate crossovers that gave an insight or continuation to the story in the main event series.  But some of crossovers (like the one above) simply featured one panel of characters looking up at the red sky and wondering what was going on.  Collectors (who felt tricked into buying those issues) came to call these “Red Skies issues” of the crossover because that was the only relation to Crisis - red skies.

So, could we be getting all this hype just to have a red skies cameo?  Well, it would be true to the original comics release (including the resentment felt by some of the viewers).

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Erica Durance also on board to reprise Lois Lane:

https://tvline.com/2019/09/20/erica-dur … mallville/

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They did the impossible:

https://deadline.com/2019/09/tom-wellin … 202738738/

If nothing else, the original Sliders episodes will likely end up on this service one day:

https://deadline.com/2019/09/nbcu-strea … 202736689/

Looks like they’re doing reboots of Battlestar Galactica, Saved by the Bell and Punky Brewster exclusive to this streaming service.  Any Sliders reboot would most likely land on the Peacock too.

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Collusion!

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Nah.  New York is on the list, but only made it as far as Philadelphia so far.

I’ve driven and seen about 2/3’s of the U.S. at this point.  Made a good tour of Los Angeles back in 2014, and saw the new facades on the Universal backlot during the VIP tour.  I figured out where the Chandler used to be (no one on the tour could tell me), and they built back a facade that looks like a more detailed, updated version of the Chandler; but it’s strangely on the opposite corner of where it used to be. It’s like someone flipped the blueprint.

What was most interesting to me was some of the films that used Sliders areas in their movies.  In Captain America: The First Avenger, the street Steve runs down after his transformation is a redressed version of the street the Chandler was on.  The same for the scene in The Amazing Spider-man where Andrew Garfield watches Uncle Ben get shot.  One of the areas used in Heavy Metal was used for the scene where Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom sword fight near the start of the first Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

We see where the Sliders walked all the time and don’t realize it.

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Came across this while traveling recently, and thought it was pretty cool (even from a Sliders perspective):

https://www.glasseye.com/wormhole/

Strangely enough, it was in the gift shop of The Hall of Justice:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2 … /25939883/

Turns out that the Superfriends Hall of Justice is a real place.  The company that owned Hanna Barbera animation was based out of Cincinnati in the 70’s, and Joe Barbera used Union Terminal as the inspiration.

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I’m still wondering if Disney will use the nuclear option.  Disney has full tv rights to Spider-man (Sony sold them in 2011); so in theory, they could make a Holland Spider-man show for Disney+ while Sony continues making their separate Holland movies.

Holland was playing coy in a recent interview about him doing something for tv soon - didn’t say what.

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An interesting thought - is the Dark Phoenix bomb the reason that the Spidey deal fell apart?  Not something one would logically connect up, but the article makes some sense.

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/08/23 … e-failure/

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I see positives and negatives with a separation of Sony and Disney.

With Disney, what they’ve really done with the Spider-man movies is create a movie series based on the comic Marvel Team-Up.  In that series, every issue featured Spidey teamed up with some other random Marvel hero.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/d/d2/Marvel_Team-Up_Vol_1_49.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181025050103

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/9/9a/Marvel_Team-Up_Vol_1_83.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180911043843

But on Marvel’s other properties, Disney has given the solo hero and his family a chance to shine alone.

With Sony, they focus on the solo hero and let him shine; but the quality is hit or miss.  The worrying part is that Rothman is running Sony.  A short history of Rothman:

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/uv2yO

And that list doesn’t even mention X-men Origins Wolverine.

So what you’re likely to see now with a Sony Spider-man is more like a “what if Fox had made Spider-man?”  That point really isn’t being talked up as much as it should be.

Picking between the two, I would probably rather Spider-man stay with Disney; but I’m also not happy with how they seem to only ever present Spidey as a guest star.

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The choke of merchandising had a big effect on Fox in pure dollars.  My understanding is that the Fox deal saw them getting a piece of everything that had an X-men or Fantastic Four character associated.  So this T-shirt made Fox money:

https://dyn.media.forbiddenplanet.com/w … 9351_1.jpg

Where this T-shirt did not:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/05/15 … s-t-shirt/

Sony sold all the merchandising rights for Spider-man back to Marvel in 2011, so the pure money issue isn’t there any longer; but merchandising has a phantom effect that is more subliminal than people may realize.  When Spider-man is in everything from your corn flakes to your happy meal, you’ve got Spider-man on the brain.  Everywhere you look, you’re reminded about the movie.  Without the merchandising, well...I hope you watch tv commercials or got to the theater in time to watch the trailers or saw that one picture on the bottom of your potato chip bag.

Disney does have a bigger trigger to pull here, though.  What if all future Marvel based video games are X-Box exclusive and Nintendo exclusive?  Sony was using the recent Spider-man game as a big part of their PS4 console advertising.   Buy a PS4 if you want to play Spider-man.  Maybe people won’t need that PS4 or PS5 for Marvel in the future.

Disney doesn’t have reason to worry about losing some money here; they’re about to replace any Spider-man losses with renewed X-men money (once they build it back up again).  Sony as a whole could face some pain they can’t afford if the movies do not continue to perform at current or better levels.

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Looking back, it’s apparent that Feige was hedging his bets - he knew this could happen.  From a pure story perspective, the divorce damage to the two studios’ plans could be mitigated with some skill and care.

The ones I feel sorry for are the actors, writers and director with the MCU’s Spider-man.  They’re caught between a rock and a hard place here; and Disney could dish out retribution on them if they help Sony succeed.  Disney and Marvel both have shown that kind of spite in the past.

This could see a new era of hardball as Disney tries to choke Sony into giving Spider-man up.  They were already trying it with Fox by killing the merchandise and even comics related to Fantastic Four and X-men.  What happens when Sony makes their big Spidey movie with no merchandising to back it up?  Look what happened with X-men and Fantastic Four.

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A part Tom would be good for is Jor-el.

This came across my Google recommendations.  Been a long time since I watched through DS9, but seeing this through today’s eyes was interesting.  Even the language is close - Sanctuary City vs Sanctuary District.

https://www.themarysue.com/star-trek-de … redictive/

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This ran as a special 5 day event on Cartoon Network last week:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Train

Season 1: The season follows 13-year-old Tulip and her two-in-one robot companion One-One in their journey through a seemingly infinite train with limitless possibilities traveling through a completely barren wasteland. They are joined by Atticus, an intelligent, talking Corgi and king of a Corgi kingdom in one of the train's cars, as they search for a way to Tulip's home.

But of note is a Q&A where creator Owen Dennis mentions his influences and inspirations:

https://www.reddit.com/r/InfinityTrain/ … nt/ewga5ah

Doctor Who, Agatha Christie, Myst, Neverending Story, The Matrix, Phillip K Dick, Star Trek Voyager, Sliders, and a lot of books that my parents used to read to me like Nightbirds on Nantucket, Wolves of Willoughby Chase, etc.

-OD

All of those heavyweights, and Sliders still got a mention among them.

I have to say, though...Dennis left out what seemed to be his largest inspiration for Infinity Train - the 1986 film Labyrinth.  Beyond story, it just has the “feel” of that movie.  I wonder if he even realizes just how much that influenced him here.

All of that said, Infinity Train honestly wasn’t that great or something I would recommend; but worth a mention just for the Sliders interest.

Some more info on the Lower Decks cartoon Jerry will be in.  The crew’s mission is something we haven’t really seen before - they initiate second contact.  After the Enterprise or another ship has found something new and extended the hand of the Federation, the crew in this series comes in to make good on the promise and start building an actual relationship with the new culture.

https://trekmovie.com/2019/08/06/stlv19 … and-canon/

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Well, the Kingdom Come Superman was used as a kind of stand-in for the original golden age Earth 2 Superman in the JSA comics; and the older Superman played a significant role in Crisis.  Routh, through his connection to the Christopher Reeve continuity, is probably the closest they can get to a golden age Superman at the moment.   Even Dean Cain beats out Welling as an older Superman.

Additional news coming out says they have another Arrowverse series in development for next season, but won’t say what hero:

https://deadline.com/2019/08/the-cw-plo … 202660964/

There’s been a long rumor of CW wanting to do a Superman series with Tyler Hoechlin, but I would like to see them give something else a chance.  They should just bite the bullet and do a Green Lantern series.  The Kyle Rayner era was largely earth bound at its start (since as the last Green Lantern he had no one to answer to).  Kyle’s story also hits a lot of social notes CW and Berlanti would like - Kyle is Hispanic; he had lesbian neighbors; he frequented Radu’s coffee shop (an immigrant).

I think they’ve all but said Diggle is the John Stewart Green Lantern, and they would likely keep it in-house with their established actors and continuity; but I would rather see Kyle.  Kyle’s never had a real chance in the spotlight where John already had years in the Justice League cartoon.

ireactions wrote:

Why is Jerry on the PICARD panel in Hall H?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zdJN3XjJ_4I

They combined all Trek into one panel this year.  Jerry is a voice actor on the Lower Decks animated comedy coming to the CBS app - he’ll be voicing Commander Ransom

https://io9.gizmodo.com/there-was-almos … 1836392106

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...and ENTERPRISE for three seasons was like a half-microwaved White Castle.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/pix.iemoji.com/images/emoji/apple/ios-12/256/face-with-tears-of-joy.png

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I started to consider whether I should be outraged, and then I remembered that I’m not going to watch this movie regardless of who’s in it.

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And further:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/06/06 … -in-doubt/

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Hmmm...Swamp Thing cancelled before it was given a chance:

https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/356565 … amp-thing/

And it’s throwing some shade on the future of all the DC streaming shows.  Fingers are pointing toward the AT&T merger and rumors of lower than expected subscription numbers for the DC streaming service.  Swamp Thing could be an indication of a reshuffling if not an outright scrapping of the DC streaming shows (in a similar pattern to what happened to the Marvel Netflix shows}.

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That was the Monitor’s behavior in the year leading up to Crisis back in 1985.  He made brief shadowy cameos in just about every DC title - often as a weapons dealer to super villains.  He wasn’t evil per se’ - more of a neutral party just testing heroes and villains in search of the best people to fight the threat of the Anti-Monitor.

The interesting thing is Luthor.  Alexander Luthor (son of the heroic Earth 3 Lex Luthor) was a pretty integral part Crisis on Infinite Earths.  So they’re likely to play with that character in some form; and the ending of Supergirl could have been related to however they are going to spin their version of that.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I'm guessing Thawne got Nora's name wrong (when Barry and Nora went back in time) because she was never meant to exist?

That’s where things start to get interesting.

In the comics, Barry and Iris have twins - Don and Dawn (also called the Tornado Twins).  Dawn’s daughter is Jenni Ognats - the true XS in the comics.  Barry and Iris could meet XS again; but she would be their grand daughter and have no memory of them.

Don also went on to have a son - Bart Allen known as Impulse and later the new Kid Flash.  But Bart’s mother?  Well, Don married Meloni Thawne (a descendant of the Reverse Flash).

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I’m getting the impression that Oliver is going to take on the role of Harbinger (The Monitor’s right hand in testing and recruiting people to fight the Anti-Monitor):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbinger_(DC_Comics)

I’m also sure it’s going to come up that the woman who became Harbinger in the comics already exists in the Arrowverse - she’s Diggle’s wife, Lyla.

If Oliver does take on the role of Harbinger, then he may also gain some powers of his own (like the ability to duplicate himself).  Regardless, it only makes sense for these last 10 episodes to all be Crisis related.  Will the other series follow suit?  I’m beginning to think Crisis really is going to be a season long thing and not just a three episode event in November.

Everybody may have the same big bad for their next season long arc.

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Some Marvel phase four rumors on 4Chan.  They’re extremely likely to be garbage, but still some interesting thoughts in there.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/05/11 … -spoilers/

The interesting one is the synopsis for the Falcon / Winter Soldier series on Disney+.  It lays out the series as an adaptation of the 1980’s John Walker story:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Agent_(character)

Steve Rogers doesn’t necessarily have the power to determine who the next Captain America will be - the Captain America name, design and physically the original shield are property of the United States government.  They have the ultimate legal right to decide who is next to wield the shield.

With a few tweaks here and there, it would be pretty easy to adapt the story to where the MCU stands now.  The original story even featured Falcon as a candidate for Captain America, but the government panel rejected him with the idea that America wasn’t ready for a black Captain America.  As it turned out, America wasn’t ready for someone with psychological problems like John Walker.

And while I don’t think Disney would go there, this did give me an interesting thought.  It’s hard for me to believe government today concluding that the world isn’t ready for a black Captain America; so how could the MCU end up thrown back to that kind of mentality?  Well, do we know if the Thanos snap was racially sensitive?  If practically all black people in America vanished for 5 years, what would the country look like when they came back?

It could be a soul searching moment of how much America has really changed versus what it just came to accept.  There is a difference.  Many black commentators have been talking about how America hasn’t really changed - people just aren’t paying attention to racism as much anymore.  This could highlight that.

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They say it’s time travel, but see for yourself:

https://ispot.tv/a/IPIm

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With Doom, I think it’s really more of his visual that captures people.  Doom was Darth Vader before Darth Vader.  Many have described Vader as one of the greatest movie villains, and he’s undeniably iconic - but how much is really there when you lift the hood and look at the character?  The prequels tried to fill in some of it, but Vader had his place in history long before the prequels.

Doom is only defined by a few things - his hatred of Richards; his obsession with control; and the desire to rescue his mother’s soul from hell (which led to much of his mystical knowledge).  For abilities, Doom is the combination of Iron Man, Doctor Strange and Black Panther (minus the athletics) - and that makes him undeniably cunning and powerful.  But Doom is usually defeated by his own arrogance or his inability to let go of an obsession.

The funny thing is that Doom has actually won several times in the comics - he beat everyone and took over.  In one memorable example, Doom found his victory so boring that he was almost relieved to see Vision reappear from a long sleep and help take the world back from Doom.  Doom likes the fight; he doesn’t really want the prize.

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Here’s a new interview with the Russos giving a ton of elaboration on things we’ve been talking about along with some other stuff that hasn’t been mentioned:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers … re-a168216

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I agree with what some have said, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Disney+ is going to have an animated What If? series that features the question “What if Peggy Carter took the super soldier serum?”.  This could easily be the series that fills in the gap of what Cap was doing and why he made his choices - the format of the series chosen because Chris Evans didn’t want to act in a live action series.

So I think we’ll get our answers, and I think there’s more to it than just Cap deciding on a whim he wants to settle down.  I like where ireactions is going with the Red Skull becoming a Watcher type figure; and I think Endgame left a set up too perfect to ignore a Cap / Red Skull confrontation.

As for Cap Falcon, I’ve never really liked the idea because it just doesn’t fit mechanically in my opinion.  The Falcons wings are his thing, and the shield combined with that seems awkward and kind of like clutter.  To give a clumsy example, it’s like giving Superman the grappling hook that Batman uses.  Does Superman even need that?

It’s about identity.  Falcon has a clear identity.  Bucky really doesn’t.  But taking on the mask of Captain America (yet another facade) might just help Bucky find his own identity.  It would make an actual character arc instead of just a statement (which is what I feel the Cap Falcon idea is - just a statement with no more meat to it than that).

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There are alot of questions for Endgame, but I would note two things.

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For one, they left it wide open for Steve Rogers to reappear if Chris Evans wants to.  Now no matter the age of the actor, he could just reappear from that point in his timeline, and hop back to his other life when his mission is done.  It’s not something they would want to do more than once or twice, but the option is there in a big way.

The idea harkens back to the mini-series Avengers Forever where the characters were pulled from various different points of their history to fight Kang.  And Kang’s domed city of Chronopolis has already  been introduced in the MCU.  For a brief second during the quantum realm scenes in Ant-man and the Wasp we see something that looks nearly identical to Chronopolis (the home of Kang located in Limbo which the MCU seems to be replacing with the quantum realm).

The Russos have said they’ll come back for one thing - a Secret Wars movie.  They could easily use the Avengers Forever formula to pull people in from various time periods, and Kang has a part in Secret Wars too.   I think it’s a safe bet too that Marvel would want the Russos back if they can do it.

The other big question for Endgame - Black Widow.  She has a solo movie coming up, so will they really do a prequel?  I don’t think so; at least not entirely.  They’ve already covered a death of Black Widow in the comics during the Secret Empire story a couple of years ago.  I imagine this is the direction they’ll be going:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Natalia_ … Earth-616)

Anyway, Endgame really left a lot to chew on.  It was a finale in its way, but it opened so many doors to the future of the MCU.  They definitely won’t be running out of storylines with the original actors - even for decades yet.

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The part that concerns me about the news is that they seem to be looking at it as a NBC network show.  Networks tend to have a house style - everything from film stock to lighting to overall production design are often a finger print that identify it as ABC, CBS or NBC.  That’s what people flip to those channels for; and once there, the house ads feed into that idea promoting that flavor to keep you watching that channel.    To use an analogy, people don’t go to Burger King looking for a Big Mac.

Look at NBC.  Do you see Sliders fitting there?  In the best case scenario, it would fit in the lonely slot NBC holds for shows like Timeless and Revolution.  In the worst case, it would fall in the hole Knight Rider was buried in.

I would love to see NBC try to recapture what they used to be; back in the 80’s, NBC was *the* sci-fi destination which reached its apex with Quantum Leap.  But NBC hasn’t been that network in a long time; and I see no indication that they want to make an effort to recapture that flavor.  Even in this case, it’s someone from the outside going to NBC to try to convince them; the reality is that NBC wasn’t seeking it out.

If Sliders were to come back, I would much rather see it in a situation like Amazing Stories on Apple.  Streaming is still young enough that companies are allowing experimentation.  Sliders needs that.  When done correctly, Sliders is a new experiment in story telling every episode; it’s the sideways look at reality we had in the Twilight Zone except with the camera following Rod Serling each week as he tries to survive the world he’s in.

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https://deadline.com/2019/03/supernatur … 202581010/

The longest-running series on the CW is coming to an end. Supernatural will wrap its run after its upcoming 15th season, which will consist of 20 episodes

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Same information already presented here, but this is the first time I’ve seen some sites pick up on a Sliders report:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/03/18 … t-revisit/

https://tvweb.com/sliders-reboot-reviva … ys-davies/

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/slid … s-revival/

https://geektyrant.com/news/john-rhys-d … rs-revival

Seems to be a small snowball effect happening which is good in bringing Sliders back to social awareness.

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The issue may be St. Clare Entertainment. If it had an ownership interest (which is possibly the case), then it creates a problem because St. Clare is now a defunct production company.  If the company doesn’t exist now, then where did those rights revert?  The company was founded by Robert Weiss, John Landis and Leslie Belzberg - would each have a 33% stake in St. Clare’s share of Sliders now?  So instead of dealing with one company and one president / chairman; NBC would need to get all three to agree separately?

I’m not sure about any of it except that St. Clare doesn’t exist now (it hasn’t produced anything since 2002).  But talking to Bob Weiss would be the place to start on figuring it out; and you would think that at least Jerry and JRD would know that.

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I would wager it goes to a streaming service if anywhere - Hulu, Amazon, Apple.  There’s also Netflix, but I doubt that one.  I believe Netflix would have went for Sliders by now if they were interested.

Using Sliders strikes me like a company trying to use a brand name to play catch up and get some attention.  Under that thought, Apple makes the most sense as a candidate.  Also don’t forget that Apple already has an announced series mining old Universal Studios sci-fi - “Amazing Stories”:

https://deadline.com/2018/12/amazing-st … 202513882/

If Apple was already talking to Universal, it’s pretty easy to believe Universal slid the rest of their catalog over and said “look at these too and see what you think”.

https://deadline.com/2019/03/jerry-ocon … 202573094/

Jerry O, a new entertainment talk and comedy series hosted by the actor and TV personality will get a three-week preview this summer.

Per Fox stations’ limited-run model, the series from Lionsgate’s Debmar-Mercury and Funny Or Die is set to debut on select Fox-owned television stations starting August 12.

It will feature a mix of celebrity interviews and specially produced comedy segments from the Funny Or Die team.

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I think Captain Marvel is going to be Marvel’s first misstep in awhile now.  I thought the problem might be that they’ve emphasized the “first woman” aspect too much - playing with fade-ins on titles to read “HERo”; releasing the movie on International Women’s Day; etc. The effort felt like a gimmick and it was off-putting to me.  But when you look at it, Black Panther did the same things - Black in the title, released during Black History Month; etc - and yet I always felt excited to see Black Panther and thought it would be a hit.  So what’s the difference?

The trailers and likely by extension the movie.

For the months preceding Black Panther, we had a commercial with a dramatic leap from above onto a moving car where Panther stops some bad guys.  For Captain Marvel, we have had a stoic Brie Larson riding in a car with Nick Fury.  We also have Brie fighting constipation on top of a train.  Oh!  And Brie punching an old lady.

To add more fuel to the fire are the reviews for Captain Marvel.  A recurring mention?  The cat steals the show.  The best thing about it...is the cat.  I see Marvel trying to damage control too - mentioning that the first Iron Man movie wasn’t a billion dollar movie and these things can take time to build up.  Not exactly comparing apples to apples.  The first Iron Man movie had little studio support behind it.

If you have a good movie to promote, the advertising gimmicks fall to the background and you don’t notice them. They become almost subliminal.  If it’s a weak movie, all you see is the gimmick.  I’ve become increasingly repulsed every time I see them pushing the movie as “it’s a woman!”; and I’ve come to realize my repulsion is because I think that’s all the movie has going for it.  It’s a shame too, because there’s nothing wrong with Captain Marvel or Carol Danvers - it could easily be great with the right writers, directors and actors.

https://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Brie-Larson-as-Captain-Marvel-train-closeup.jpg

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Never found the footage, but Stephanie scenes were filmed for the pilot.  She was played by then Melanie Pearson (now Melanie Bradshaw).

https://imdb.com/name/nm0669335/

http://www.deadbeatmovie.com/pictures/hs-melanie-lg.jpg

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I think it was lost to the old board, but some may remember a post I made about Universal’s habit of rebooting shows around 25 years after the original.  Well, next month will see us 24 years out from the debut. We’re due.

The logic of the rule?  That’s about the length of time it takes for a child or teen who loved the original show to grow into a position where they could sell an idea in Hollywood.

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More rumors flying around the Arrowverse than usual.  Arrow ending after Crisis (season 8).  Legends and Supergirl on the bubble after Crisis due to continued low ratings.  A new Superman show featuring Tyler coming in to replace Supergirl.  Cisco and Caitlyn leaving Flash.

I have to say - if they want to do a major shake-up, that’s what Crisis was made for.  From the various articles I’ve read, it seems like Cisco leaving has the most weight to it.  If so, XS already name dropped his replacement at the start of this season - Ryan Choi (the successor to Ray Palmer’s Atom in the comics):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/88/AllNewAtom.jpg/250px-AllNewAtom.jpg

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I think there were some interesting choices made in the story that are not so much clues to the resolution but instead groundwork.

First there is the title of the episode - “Identity”.  It’s a title choice that has many layers.  Obviously it’s referring to who Isaac’s people really are, but it can also be referring to Isaac himself.  Isaac has formed his own personal identity while on the Orville.  As he mentioned in an earlier episode, his subroutines have been altered to the point that he needs the Orville crew to function.  Keeping them alive is his own self preservation in a way.

Next we start out the episode with Isaac playing something like 8th dimensional chess.  Isaac boasts about how he is smarter than everyone, but he’s also proving his ability to form complex strategies and win every time.

Then Isaac shuts down.  As we later find out, this was done remotely by his people from a vast distance away.  If it can be done to Isaac, it stands to reason it can be done to any of his kind - potentially to all of them no matter where they are.

Isaac returns home and is rebooted.  It is stated he will be taken away to be disassembled and re-integrated; but the only thing that happens is an interface and possibly a download.  This is different than the Kaylon receiving Isaac’s reports - this was a direct connection to Isaac himself.  After the interface, Isaac is *not* disassembled and is returned to talk to the crew of the Orville.  Why did the Kaylon change their mind?

Isaac goes through his good byes and the party, but he is acting a little differently.  After receiving the drawing, he leaves.  Before leaving the ship, Isaac takes a long look at the drawing and then discards it.  Why did he look at it like that?  Why didn’t he refuse the drawing when it was first offered?

Lastly, the Kaylon spring their trap; but they don’t kill the Orville crew on the spot?  They only kill those who are attacking them.  Why keep the crew alive?  Why take the ship?  The Kaylon don’t need any of them.

I think Isaac is playing a long game; and like his people were doing, Isaac was stalling for time (which made it necessary to act differently to the crew so as not to give himself away to his people).  Isaac has infected his people with his subroutines in that download, and they are being altered to have an affinity for the Orville just as Isaac has.  Isaac knew this would happen, but it takes time.  Ty’s exploration of the planet messed things up a little causing the Kaylon to spring the trap early before their minds could be changed, but it’s still processing in their systems.

The interesting thing is this.  What if it doesn’t work?  There is another option. Would Isaac push the off button of the Kaylon species?  Makes for an interesting discussion on genocide, and it could potentially make Isaac the last Kaylon in existence (making him more like Data).  Of course, Isaac won’t be viewed the same by humanity after this; but killing his entire species to save the Union would go a long way toward the Union (and the Orville) giving him a second chance.

And the massive punchline to the whole story?  If Isaac pulls all of this off, he’s going to prove he is smarter than everybody else.

Just my thoughts on it.  We’ll see where it goes!

If they pay it off like I think they will, it will be pretty impressive

So last night’s episode of Orville - wow.

The Moclan trajectory also has shades of modern ideas like Brexit.  It’s what Star Trek used to be and was meant to be - a look at modern problems through a sci-fi lens.

And while it’s been tempting to see Moclans as a Klingon analogue, it’s becoming more clear that they are a Vulcan analogue.  If that’s the case, then the Moclans aren’t just a partner - they are a major partner.

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They were playing a little mix and match too.  In the comics, the first Killer Frost was a love interest of Martin Stein, but he rejected her which led her to her fate as Killer Frost.  Having Caitlin as Ronnie’s love interest, I would guess they were setting up a potential love triangle if they introduced Firehawk down the line; and that could then lead into Killer Frost.  But actors leave and plans change and orphan ideas live on.

I am surprised we haven’t seen Firehawk pop up in some form (especially since we did see Henry Hewitt / Tokamak whose experiments created her).

http://firestormfan.com/images/firehawk_ww85_1000.jpg