If NBCUniversal has no interest in reviving Sliders, but other people in power are interested, I feel like they might sell of the rights. If the show were to come back, I probably see it being on Netflix or Disney+.

O'Connell might be okay with doing the show on a crowdfunded salary, but Davies would most definitly want a much bigger settlement. Derricks and Lloyd would probably be difficult to get if the show were to come back, but that is another story altogether.

But all in all, I don't think crowdfunding is the way to go to bring the show back. Sliders has a small fanbase, and of that small fanbase, there is an even smaller number of people who would give their money to Kickstarter for the possibility of the show coming back.

If Sliders is revived as an audio drama, there's almost no money needed. Just enough for the actors and audio equipment and can be hosted on any podcast website. But I don't think Sliders would be revived that way. Sliders is a pretty visual show. I'm just not sure how well it would translate to audio format. Plus, it's a very small medium that I don't think the actors would be interested in doing.

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This is very interesting. (A little sad, but that's speaking to my child mentality where you wish for all the people on a show you like to have gotten along on set lol.) But based on this, it shows how taleneted Davies must be cause it appears during the first two seasons, he improvised some things on set. Based on hearing this, it sounds like Torme wanted Arturo to be more like how he is in El Sid all throughout. Whether or not this is the case, and because it sounds like he didn't want him playing father figure at all in the show, it would be interesting to know how the other writers saw the character. They are of course low on the totent poll and would have virtually no say, but we still get kind, fatherly Arturo in those two seasons as well. Whether that was incorperated by Davies or the other writers, I have no idea.

The Pilot also has a lot of scenes of Quinn trying to flirt with a girl only for her and her friends to mock him; it's hard to imagine Jerry O'Connell being laughed at by women after he asks a girl named Stephanie out. That makes no sense visually; Stephanie would have told Jerry O'Connell: "Oh, that's so sweet, thank you, Quinn, but I have a boyfriend. You are a very cute boy, though, and I promise you there is some girl out there who sees that and is single."

(Or she would have told him, "Yeah, thanks but no thanks, Jerry; I know you're a player who never remembers anyone's name in the morning and don't get me wrong, you might have the best body I've ever seen and your hair is sexy but you're disloyal, shallow, untrustworthy, and I think you might be stupid. Like, I actually think you might have some kind of reading disability that you haven't even tried to fix because you've been coasting through life on your good looks.")

(Jerry seems to have grown the hell up, though; his recent podcast with Macaulay Culkin where he reflected on parenting and how to encourage his children speaks to a quantum leap forward in empathy and consideration.)

SLIDERS expert Temporal Flux says the Quinn/Stephanie scenes were filmed but cut. They may have been cut for time, but they may also may have been cut because they made no sense whatsoever visually.

I can see they were probably cut, not because they didn't make too much sense, but also because it was just extra filler. There is no pay off of Stephanie at all later in the pilot.

The tidbit about her may have been kept in. In an earlier script, it was mentioned that Smarter Quinn's wife was in fact Stephanie. They just took the name referance out in the final version. (Fun fact, when I first watched this, I assumed that Smarter Quinn's wife was Wade lol.)

Now I don't really know much about Jerry O'Connell, but based on what you said about him getting fired from the Kangaroo movie and such, probably had some things to do with it. I also think we may have to remember that he was in his 20s and a new star, and wasn't seeing the forrest for the trees. (Michael J. Fox, the actor is rumored to be a nice person but for a period of time, people reffered to him as cocky. Makes sense as he was new to stardom.) Just saying that may have played into Jerry a little bit too during those days.

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On another note I wanted to bring up from the podcast. In the Weaker Sex/Eggheads episode, it was brought up about the 50s/60s style mentality towards gender in Feminist World. I think this works and helps to make the epiosde stronger. This is a world where they had already gotten to experience what men are like in power, and had decided on their own that they didn't like it. So it makes sense that things would be reserved to the point that men are only seen as sexual objects and can only get certain jobs as nannies, teachers or secretaries.

I feel like if they had gone with the alternate attitude type thing like you mentioned there was in Eggheads (say that in this world, the people just prefer to have women in power) then I feel like it would have been more to the style of how gender politics played out in the 90s.

On the note about Quinn and Wade in this episode. You mentioned about him drying her hair. There is also the part where she lies and says that he's her boyfriend to get him the job. This is interesting because all three men tried to get jobs there. I assumed she just went "oh, these are my friends Rembrandt and Professor Arturo," so the fact that she says that Quinn is her boyfriend probably shows that the two were getting closer since their brief encounter in Last Days. It would be after this epiosde and before Luck of the Draw where I assumed they had a talk togethr about not getting involved while sliding. (Which could have been it's own epiosde in itself. Oof, I might be getting the urge to write that story out but probably won't lol.)

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Torme wanted the Professor to be cowardly, writing him so in the Pilot. John Rhys-Davies felt insulted to be asked to play the Professor as shrinking from danger or lacking integrity and played against the script. There was a constant friction between Davies and Torme with Davies wanting the Professor to be the lead character, Quinn's teacher and the unambiguous father figure of the group and Torme wanting the Professor to have a dark side and be insecure and threatened by Quinn's genius. In the third season, Torme was no longer present and despite Davies' conflicts with David Peckinpah and Alan Barnette, Davies got his way and the Professor by Season 3 is exactly what Davies wanted him to be (aside from being dead).

That is interesting. I never knew that. I think that is one thing I have to side with Davies over Torme over. I like it better when the professor is then nice guy instead of yelling at everyone (despite the fact that I don’t portray it well in my writing lol).

I didn’t know Arturo was originally written to be cowardly. I didn’t see that at all in the pilot, but that is probably due to the fact of Davies’s performance. Interesting he got to play the professor his way in season 3 despite with the change in creative control. (Well almost his way. Quinn’s still very much the leader in season 3.) but I never knew Torme and Davies were butting heads a lot. All I knew is that he had problems with some of the lines during the Fortune Teller scene in Into the Mystic. Which makes sense considering he didn’t like the part of Arturo resenting Quinn because of his intelligence.

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You have a pretty good understanding of the character Arturo. I'm impressed. I would agree on pretty much all of those points for the most part. And right, I did forget for a minute about the football thing. Pretty subtle hint on Torme's part. I know that Torme's original idea was for Arturo to have the Kromagg implant and for him to get left behind on Azure Gate Bridge world. Then he would use their sliding technology to catch up to his friends once the Kromaggs invaded that world. But those plans fell through becasuse Fox didn't want continuity and planned to air them out of order. Still interesting to hear about his plans nonetheless.

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"But artificial insemination isn't even hard, it's just a sperm donation and a turkey baster. It's been happening since  the end of the eighteenth century!"

Fun fact: In the original script for Love Gods, there was a mention of artificial insemination exisiting on this world, but it was probably removed to give the forced breeding more stakes.

I try to be sex positive and respectful towards all the swingers and polyamorous people I've known and befriended, but if you don't like it, I trust that you have a legitimate distaste for it.

I have nothing against swingers or people having sex. I don't hate it, it just seemed a little weird to me, and I find it a tad bit out of character for season 2 Quinn. Also probably not a fan of Quinn having a child and then abandoning it. But altoegther, it's just a tiny part of the show and doesn't ruin anything for me. I guess in my head, I tend to make sense of the existence of the photograph another way lol.

I've also seen people theorize that there was a double of Quinn on this world who was in fact married to Jane Hills. Pretty far out of reach, but it's a neat explanation I've seen for the photograph and her line of "you don't recognize me, do you?"

My fan theory for the Wrong Arturo situation -- I feel like the sliders deliberately did not pursue whether or not they had the right one. They were too afraid that they didn't. They denied it. They pretended he was their professor. They needed him. And he fulfilled the role well. By Season 3, aside from one outburst in "Rules of the Game" and one in "Murder Most Foul," Arturo has gone from a brilliant, cranky, fatherly, controlling, bombastic, gentle man -- a genius and a good guy but a bombastic ass -- to becoming the cuddly grandfather who rarely has a harsh word for anyone. It's like he knew who the sliders needed him to be and proceeded to exaggerate all of Arturo's positive traits.

I like that theory. it's neat and I feel like that would be in tune with the sliders. Out of all the character changes in season 3, Arturo's growth I will put it was probably the best and seemed genuine. If he is in fact the double, it makes sense that he came to care about these people and loved them like he would his own friends or family.

My only ever "argument" for the right professor slid, since there is never any hints towards either one, is the way he talks about Quinn in In Dino Verates. In continuity, this came right after PTSS. If he is the wrong professor, he just tried to steal his invention. There's no way a week or so later, he would have all those nice things to say about him. Butnevertheless, good scene and I know this epiosde was probably written before PTSS so I digress lol.

I suggest you write one of your screenplays where on this alt-world, we discover that there's a double of Amanda Mallory who's running her dead husband's biotechnology firm. Quinn donates a sperm sample and contacts the double of his mother; he gives her the process for artificial insemination and asks her to help Jane get pregnant that way, and end forced breeding for men by introducing a more efficient technology for pregnancies.

Haha, interesting idea. I haven't written anything in close to two-three weeks now, but I might get back into it soon.

You know, sort of unrelated. Luna in the server had an idea about an anothology Sliders spin-off series that focuses on the worlds after the sliders leave. Showing if they really made a change there or not and what happened after they left. That would be kind of cool to see.

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Alright, I get your point. My error.

On another note, thought the coverage in the In Dino Verates/Greatfellas/Young and Relentless epiosde was good. Good point about the Sliders having the oppurtunity to ask Arturo on truth collar world if he was their professor. But I guess it never crossed their minds 100% that they might have taken the wrong one lol.

Also it was mentioned about the music being different in Young and the Relentless. I actually liked the music choice for that episode.  I found it fitting for the tone of the episode.

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True, you do have a point there. But since there is never any tangible proof, we are allowed to interepret it any way.

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Well I would say you're right. Torme has moved on with his life. He doesn't spend every waking moment thinking about this show he made 25 years ago. And besides, like you said, he has money and has other things going on in his life. But I can see him wanting a conclusion to the characters he created. If he were to bring back Sliders, and that's an if, he would probably make it a short lived mini series or a movie.

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I don't know why else Ms. Hills would have kept a photograph of Quinn aside from the wish for her child to know the face of the father.

She's creepy. That's why lol. But for reals, I think the explaination I come up with most is that maybe Quinn helped her find some sort of loophole to get her on the approved recepients list. The second to last scene has her left with the breeding police alone. What happened after the sliders slid out? Why did she come join Quinn to meet up with the sliders? Maybe there was something to get her in the same room as the breeding police or something. Perhaps the reason she kept a photo of Quinn is to remember him by, regardless if he fathered her child or not. But of course I'm probably reaching a little too far in this lol

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For this reason, I feel a reboot is best. However, from what I can tell, Tracy Torme has had at least two opportunities to pitch a SLIDERS revival and has, each time, refused to pitch a reboot with new actors. He is only interested in SLIDERS with the original cast and his proposal has been rejected.

I completely understand where he is coming from. For some reason, when shows do this and cast new actors in the existing charactors roles, it feels like strangers wearing their faces instead of the actual characters.

Even in 2021, new fans writing fanfic feel compelled to write a 25 - 75 part series of SLIDERS: THE KROMAGG WAR CHRONICLES in order to justify writing the simple SLIDERS stories they want to write with the sliders visiting a parallel world.

Which you said, many fanfic writers feel burnt out after doing the revivals and don't finish their stories. The Kromaggs existence, whether you loved them or hated them, does put a bit of a damper on fanfic writers because they have to come up with some sort of wrap up to them or find a way to get rid of the tracker.

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I think it would be interesting to do an animated version of Sliders in a potential reboot. A few of you did have some valid points in that the characters being down to earth realistic people would be difficult to translate to an animation medium, but I think it would have some potentional and would help with continuity purposes. If there was a reboot (and I am saying IF), you would want to bring back the original four of course, and you would probably have to go into an explanation of what happened and how they're here and stuff. An animated series would allow you to continuity right from where it left off. If Torme was involved, he would be able to start it out with his story Slide Effects. Although a drawback from this, which has been mentioned before, the social political commentary aspect of Sliders would feel dated because they can't talk about current events and stuff.

But looking at all the ways the show could be brought back, animation route is probably my favourite maybe.

Theres:

a) animation

b) Doing what Ib sort of did with Reborn in that setting up the show taking place in 2021 or whatever year the show is made and having the characters be whatever ages they would be today. Just a weird personal opinion, but I'm not totally interested in seeing them old lol

Theres c) Hard core remake casting new actors in the characters. Which I think would be better for drawing in new fans instead of attracting old fans

d) Remake existing of completely new cast of characters and their adventures. But that alienates some of the audience because I know yeah, the concept was cool but one of the big kickers for a lot of people is the characters.

So yes, animation route would probably be easiest, and probably friendly in case they can't get some actors back, but of course it does have its drawbacks.

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I know this thread is very old and hasn't been talked about in a while but I just thought I would share that I recently started getting into this podcast. It's fun and I do agree the hosts do have great chemistry. Just thought I would make a couple notes based on what I've read/listened to.

In the Gillian of the Spirits/Obsession episode, Cory and Tom are confused at what Derek Bond was forseeing. While Ib has an interesting point that maybe he was forseeing something in the far future, I choose to think of it that there are worlds the sliders go to that we don't see. So perhaps there's a world between Oracle World and Remmy buying knee pads that was truely horrific. I do agree on their point that it would have been interesting to have a send off world in that episode.

While this was covered, they did speak a little in the El Sid/Love Gods episode about Quinn chuckling with Remmy and Arturo in the police station. I agree with Ib in that I don't think he was really enjoying the attention like the other two men were, he was more so laughing at his friends' behaviour. Also I actually don't think he had sex with the woman there, but I guess I am in the minority with that belief lol.

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If anyone's interesting, I recently started a discord server for the show. It's pretty small but it's also pretty active and we have fun discussions. Here's the link

https://discord.gg/EMgJWRA72k