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I think you may be misinterpreting. I am not mischaracterizing anything. My LOL, once again, is talking about the hypocrisy of it all and republicans in general and how the army is screaming about President Biden pardoning Hunter when Trump himself is appointing a criminal he pardoned as the ambassador to France, and that republicans themselves have nothing but hypocrisy in electing an official doing that.

Never once did I levy any comments to suggest that I was downplaying any threats.

All republicans deserve mockery and ridicule for what they push on FOX (Faux) News and Newsmax as real news.

Sorry, but that's reality and the truth.

I will never respect a republican. Ever. Again.

Definitely not! LOL

Some small, good news this election cycle. Finally.

Derek Tran has declared victory over terrible Trumper Michelle Steel:

Derek Tran maintains lead over Michelle Steel as vote counts trickle in

https://laist.com/news/politics/democra … -26-update

Derek Tran declares victory in California's 45th U.S. House District 3 weeks after Election Day

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/decision- … n/3569565/

This was definitely a gross miscalculation on their part. Sadly.

The article is on point, ireactions. With Trump in government ready to implement Project 2025 with all the loyalists at his side, what is government going to look like by the midterms? Will it even be recognizable? Will we even have midterms? I know President Biden is trying to push through the judges he can. As well as make other changes to help stem the tide of the impact of effects of a second Trump term. What if elections are abolished on the first day of Trump's new term? What do we do?

Will Dems be able to act in time to preserve what we have? Do they have time to pivot and adjust their strategy?

The latest shows Trump is shoring up the White House's budget office with Project 2025 co-author Russell Vought:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/22/politics … index.html

You are not wrong. After having some time to calm down a bit, and even though I will elicit much dread for existing at all, I am going to say this:

I agree 100% here. Democrats are terrible...TERRIBLE...at social media. They cannot even put together the basics of a mediocre social media campaign. They NEED an overall social media communications manager who is savvy and knows the space in order to be the most effective at turning that space into votes. So far, they haven't been all that successful at doing this. If it's one major weakness they have that needs to be addressed, it's this one.

At the risk of being attacked for saying good things about Kamala: Until Kamala's team came along, there was not much dems were doing on social media. They kept losing ground a lot. Kamala's team brought a breath of fresh air to a failed social media presence. But it wasn't enough.

107 days left of the campaign simply was not enough to overcome what was already losing ground. If it's one thing republicans are good at over Democrats is social media. Even if Trump's team posted a sinking ship because of low morale, and they were hacked by Iran at the same time, the republicans are good at recovering on social media. They have a much larger, more organized, savvy, and pointed presence that puts Democrats on social media to shame.

Republicans can broadcast fake news and misaligned talking points designed to trick voters into believing one thing when the truth is really something else (notice that there are voters who thought the ACA was not the same as Obamacare and how shocked they were when they found out that the ACA *IS* Obamacare). And all of this because republicans are good at nicknaming things on social media and broadcasting that to more people in a way that led people to believe it over the actual truth. The question here is: how do you get people to always do their research first and confirm that what they believe is false when the algorithm is tailored to their interests and cognitive biases, rather than fact?

Dems have a long road ahead to get good enough at social media to overcome this and they need to start now. Not a month before the midterms. But they need to begin to prepare now.

I believe this article on "Salon" which is a questionable source is largely unfair. Everyone already knew by then what Kamala stood for: that Israel has and should continue to have the right to defend itself. But that both Israel and Palestine should be able to coexist. What Trump will be doing the first day he is in office? He will be removing all weapons delays to Israel, and Netanyahu will be able to incinerate any and all Palestinians as he pleases. - https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-said-l … 3989.html.

I fully disagree with the assessment that "Trump bulldozed them." No he didn't. He spouted nonsense and hurled racist insults at Kamala and Puerto Ricans, threatened the assassination of political rivals, threatened shooting the press, and could barely string two words together. And he held a 1939-like Nazi Rally at MSG. And he "bulldozed them"? No he didn't. He damned well didn't.

I also fully disagree that the democratic party needs to change. And I am NOT afraid to point the finger where it squarely belongs. The proof will come out. It will. You can continue to hurl name calling and abuse at me because I certainly don't want to talk about "how the democratic party can change". Because that's not the freaking issue. And that is BS largely spread by Bernie who is a senile old coot. And it's gaslighting to tell us that that it is the issue when it's not.

We obviously don't see eye to eye. And that's okay. But you don't have to hurl name calling at me and tell me to leave because for whatever reason, you dislike Kamala. I am not a Bernie bro. I really do not like him at all because he's just another old man and not what the government needs to be successful.

Hopefully I am allowed to have a different opinion here. If not, oh well.

As the woman who proceeded to count "what the Rethuglicans deemed illegal" votes in Bucks County, PA despite Supreme Court objection says "Trump doesn't have to follow the law so why do we?" Eff the right wing extremist Supreme Court. If they're a vote, count them all.

About Democratic party messaging...I've been thinking about ways to communicate my point better, but this post writes and communicates it perfectly.

So, I will just leave this here.

No, the Democratic Party Can't "Message Better" to Racism, Misogyny, and Ignorance

https://johnpavlovitz.substack.com/p/no … nt-message

In the wake of the election results, one of the most common media postmortems has been the Democratic Party’s supposed failure to reach those Americans who they were unable to persuade over the course of the campaign; rural and working class voters, especially. The airways have been filled with politicians and talking heads offer their critiques and suggestions on how Democrats need to rethink how they are messaging.

I’m sorry, but that’s largely nonsense.

This election result isn't about Dem messaging.

Their messaging during the campaign was pitch-perfect in any other iteration of America. It was about helping the middle class, lowering taxes for the average American, continuing with sound economic policies to cut rising grocery prices, preserving democracy, taxing the wealthy, affordable healthcare and education, the rights of women, strengthening the border, unity, opportunity.

Kamala Harris and Tim Walz formed a balanced ticket filled with character, intellect, and genuine love for this country, and they eloquently delivered their vision beautifully. Their respective resumes contained exemplary histories of their work on behalf of the working people of this nation. They were experienced, mature, and competent.

And none of these realities could overcome the America that we’ve become—or at least a sizable portion of it has.

This election result isn’t about policy or platform, it’s about racism, misogyny, lack of education—and a Right-wing media machine that caters to those realities.

There is no messaging strategy that can overcome deeply-held prejudice and rising ignorance, and those two factors are the only explanation for someone like Donald Trump even being the nominee, let alone getting 76 million votes.

Trump neither attempted to embrace working Americans nor offer them any substantive plans to help them, because he knew he didn’t need to. He simply peddled wild, racist fever-dreams and continually repeated grotesque fabricated nightmares about immigrants eating pets and sex-change operations on middle school students, knowing that terrified people without critical thinking skills are an easy mark.

For months, while Kamala Harris and Tim Walz breathlessly traversed the country laying out their concrete plans for a diverse nation where every human being would receive an opportunity to thrive, detailing support for first-time homebuyers and small business owners and adult parental caregivers—Donald Trump and J.D. Vance blasted people with nonsensical verbal-diarrhea rally rants about violent foreign hordes coming to rape women and about child predators lurking in public bathrooms.

And the results were what they were: more people chose a mythical war against non-existent problems, instead of sound policies delivered by reasonable human beings, because at the end of the day, they took the politics of least resistance. They objected to the hours necessary to read platforms and understand the issues at stake, in favor of a cheap and easy high that told them life was simple: everything was bad, enemies were advancing, and their vote would eliminate the bad people.

How the hell do you “message” against that?

Pressed in his disastrous debate with Kamala Harris about his supposed healthcare plan, this several-times bankrupt, convicted felon and court adjudicated rapist who has had four years as president and nearly a decade as the Republican Party’s de-facto leader, admitted to having only “the concept of a plan.” (Translation: the plan, is you getting sick or going broke or dying prematurely.) That alone would and should have disqualified him from office—but he said he’d kick out the black and brown people, erase trans kids, and destroy “wokeness”, so tens of millions of alleged adults said, “Yeah, he’s our guy!”

And people who are that cavalier and careless with something as important as the health and welfare of their families, cannot be reached with any methods, aside from Dems creating a lowest-common denominator, Left propaganda disinformation network that will offer competing simplistic platitudes. And that is a slippery slope, for sure.

We need to stop pretending there is some perfect Democratic candidate or magic messaging, to connecting with people who have abandoned objective reality and complex evaluation, and chosen to embrace their false fears and uninformed phobias— while failing to do the slightest bit of work to know what candidates' policies and plans are, and the complex impact those things will have on their families and workplaces and futures. (The huge spike in Internet searches of things like “How do tariffs work?”, “What is Project 2025?”, “Can they deport legal immigrants?”, and “Can I change my vote?” after the election, shows that whatever people were using to make one of the most consequential decisions in their lifetimes during the campaign, didn’t include the issues or platforms.)

I have always been as still am a registered Independent. Believe me, I know the Democratic Party isn’t perfect and that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz had flaws as any candidates would, but they provided this nation with a ticket and a campaign that should have been enough in the nation that we once were before 2016; before red hat-catch phrases and open racism and dehumanizing language usurped thorough examination of the complicated issues and the solutions to to those problems. Donald Trump invited people to stop thinking and to let fear lead them, and I’m not sure how we reverse that.

Kamala Harris and the Dems didn't fail America, they just exist in a nation where far too many people don't pay attention or care to understand what's actually happening.

Maybe more of them will now.

That, in general, is a question to ask Trumpers. They're the ones who refuse to follow the rules and wear masks and vaccinate. Dems, as a rule, do not. Until that happens, they will continue to be society's self-proclaimed victims.

There actually is a reason to vilify them because not wearing them harms everybody. Not vaccinating kids in school harms other children and can cause outbreaks. It can harm herd immunity and provide a breakthrough point for mutated viruses to take hold. There is at least one case of Polio in New York now. The disease had been completely wiped out. All thanks to anti-vaxxers who refuse modern medicine because of some horrific mutation of incorrect information they saw online.

I think I have a right to be offended by somebody who chooses to buck science and medical doctors because they are too stupid to see why it's important and they believe FOX News. I think I have a right to be offended by somebody who thinks aborting a 5mm zygote is equal to aborting a human being in the 9th month, and they actually think 9th month abortions actually happen. I think I have a right to be offended by somebody who completely rejects science and refuses to do anything about it. And I think they should continue to be ostracized by society because of it as a form of punishment.

I don't want their vote to contribute if I have to not be offended just so they can have the freedom to base their decisions on unfounded unscientific information because facts are less entertaining to them.

Your first point is interesting, Slider_Quinn21. I tend to think JD is just going to be a younger version of Trump except 1. He doesn't command the loyalty or the follower demand like you mentioned, 2. He has called Trump America's Hitler. So...I'll keep that in the back of my mind. I just don't know.

I really hope you're right on your second point. But, Trump's father lived to be about 94 so they do have longevity... (I'm trying not to think about that right now)...

You could be right. Inexperience could have its good side. But, JD Vance has been quoted as saying (and I've seen him say all this), which makes me terrified of there being a JD Vance presidency too:

https://www.thecut.com/article/jd-vance … uotes.html

He’s disconcerted by the idea that this country is being run by “childless cat ladies.”

He’s disturbed by teachers who don’t have children.

He thinks people with children should be rewarded with extra votes.

"Vance’s views on abortion — that it isn’t acceptable, even in cases of rape and/or incest, and that law enforcement should play a role in policing patients’ medical decisions — are strong, if not out of line with his hard-right pivot. Sound bites such as “the rejection of the American family is perhaps the most pernicious and the most evil thing the left has done in this country” don’t feel especially surprising, given the context. But, consider this hypothetical scenario he spun out about the fall of Roe v. Wade, before the Supreme Court actually overturned it. If abortion became illegal in his state (Ohio), he worried, then “every day George Soros sends a 747 to Columbus to load up disproportionately Black women to get them to go have abortions in California. And of course, the left will celebrate this as a victory for diversity — uh, that’s kind of creepy.” He went on to say that, due to the situation’s supposed creepiness, he would be “pretty sympathetic” to some sort of “federal response to prevent it from happening.” Which is itself a pretty creepy prospect."

He said he felt his most “female” on the day he was too weepy to watch Garden State.

He’s outlined a vision for the second Trump presidency that sounds a lot like dictatorship.

"During a 2021 podcast with a prominent men’s-rights activist, Vance called for a “de-woke-ification program” in which the right would “seize the institutions of the left, and turn them against the left.” He went on to say that, should Trump win in 2024, he would encourage his boss to “fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people. And when the courts stop you, stand before the country, and say — quoting Andrew Jackson — ‘the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.’” Based on a recent ABC interview, it sounds like Vance stands by that advice."

These are just snippets of some of the worst of what he's said.

Somehow, I don't think he'd be much better than Trump.

ireactions - I am back. I am still wrestling with much grief over this election, and I need to limit my posting activity until I am able to have a clearer head. Also, several things have evolved and I hope I will be allowed to at least post the following. I have added to this post further factual discussion of other aspects of this election below at the bottom of the post.

If you still don't want to talk about this at all, despite ample evidence, feel free to edit my post and delete the part you don't like about voting machine breaches. You don't have to respond to it. But I felt it was critical, factual information. It is never my intent to harass or be harmful or otherwise, and I am sorry that you feel that way about any of the information that I have provided. The information below, however, is provided by Harvard graduates in computer science and University computer science professors, as well as court cases and court documentation.

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That being said, here is my contribution to the overall arching thread discussion:

I don't think there is too much wrong on the democratic side. The things happening now that need to stop is infighting and blaming other dems for the loss of this election. Kamala's campaign was well-executed. She included the working class, and highlighted what she brought to the table versus Trump. It is also indicated in Google Searches that the phrase "can I change my vote" jumped in Google Search trends immediately after the election by 700%, including an increase in 250% for queries about tariffs. Clearly, either dems didn't do a good job explaining more about what Trump was going to do (which I have a hard time believing because Kamala spent a good chunk of time in all of her speeches talking about what Trump was going to do), or people didn't pay attention to Kamala's speeches at all and they simply paid attention to all of the right wing talking points spread on social media networks instead.

Other things that I think contributed:

1. When President Joe Biden stepped out of the race, the media were jumping on his age 24/7. They didn't even bother jumping down Trump, who is the same age (80), and is even worse as far as mental acuity goes. The double standard did more to harm the democratic side than anything else. And I fully blame the media for that aspect.

2. There was constant misinformation spread on Twitter about everything Kamala was doing. And voters listened to this over anything else (likely).

3. Voters simply did not do their research on Trump before voting, as is shown by the fact that there is significant voter remorse over this election. Had they known, there may have been a dem landslide.

4. Voters simply ignored Kamala's speeches, and did not let things sink in. Or they simply didn't know who was running. Jimmy Kimmel did a segment on the streets where he asked voters about the election the day after the election, and none of them 1. Knew who was running, 2. Knew the election was already over. How much of this is pervasive within our society so that it negatively impacts voters?

I honestly don't think there is anything much about the democratic party we need to change. All of the above are factors that we cannot control 100%, which is the perception of voters about the candidates, and whether they do their research ahead of time. We cannot change what we cannot control. In which case, there isn't really much of a strategy that we can implement.

I do, however, think we need to stop the infighting and blaming and focus on the next mid term elections. Assuming we even have them in 2026.

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1. The other information. ireactions - You may delete this section permanently if you don't like it. And again, it's my last post with this information. I won't post about voting machines again.

2. Also, please don't waste any more of your time responding if you don't like it.
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First, there has been additional information coming to light, including an FBI investigation of Polymarket, in which the CEO's home was just raided by the FBI:

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/13/polyma … yne-coplan

There has also been a letter, backed by Harvard graduate computer scientists and University Professors, sent to VP Kamala Harris which shows specific evidence of security breaches that could have resulted in this outcome. This evidence comes from court cases and court documentation, not heresay on social media:

https://freespeechforpeople.org/compute … ification/

And if you read the letter (link below), the evidence is outlined specifically and in full. But, and I will emphatically state this: the letter states that there is no indication of voter fraud happening in the 2024 elections. Just that there is highly circumstantial evidence of breaches by Trump operatives at earlier times that warrant a deeper investigation.

https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-cont … 111324.pdf

In light of the Polymarket information, it is also telling that 1. Elon Musk posted the results of this election a week early on October 30, 2024, saying that "The prophecy will be fulfilled." and 2. The results come from Polymarket, which has never accurately predicted an election. Ever. Again, this is highly circumstantial, and I am only offering this as extremely suspicious behavior. Not proof.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1851659311132692541

In this screenshot, the right image is Elon's post showing the election results a week early on October 30, 2024. The left post are the final election results on Google.

That is all I will say, and is my last post on the topic.

Now THAT's propaganda. It ain't over until it's over and all the votes are counted and are ensured to be properly executed and not fraud. That sack of shit Trump brought 60+ cases to court to contest the 2020 election and lost. I don't think it's something that should count against us to contest this election ONCE given all the inaccuracies, inconsistencies, and things that are WRONG with this election. Defunct? Far from it. She stated in her concession speech that even though she conceded this election, she wasn't giving up the fight.

These BS rethuglicans still expect us to believe that overturning Roe v. Wade did not cause a blue wave and that millions of Democrats sat out this election? They expect us to believe that 1. The person with the far better ground game lost, 2. All the many hundreds of celebrities and endorsements for Kamala lost including a Taylor Swift and Beyonce army, 3. A lying 34-time convicted felonious racist rapist sack of shit who utilized Russian assistance to fraudulently steal this election who's hated by more than 54% of the country got more votes than the most qualified Presidential candidate in 300 years?

LOL

Thank you, Slider_Quinn21!!

I didn't trust the sources saying Trump was gonna win because they were all right wing - Polymarket, and others. Plus, the only people saying that Trump was going to win were right wing influencers. And every time I looked up their accounts, it was likely they were part of the RT . com media company that was shut down by the DOJ. Or they had been heavy, heavy Trumpers. Literally the only people saying Trump was going to win were right wing sources. No independent sources, no left wing sources, nobody. Everyone was all-in on Kamala because she was the most qualified Presidential candidate that we have ever had in 300 years.

Plus, the right wing sources all inflated their surveys for Trump - with ridiculous numbers. 75% swing to Trump, only 35% preferred Kamala. And this is what was reported in legitimate sources - that these surveys were all faked. Trump even stated on Joe Rogan that he was paying pollsters $500,000 or more to create polls that favored him. They didn't even have to do the work. All they had to do was flood the market with polls that were positive towards him.

I honestly believe that so much shady stuff was going on behind the scenes that Elon and Trump said the quiet parts out loud and that they actually admitted at certain points they cheated. It just simply would not be enough to catch them at this point and find all the evidence. Which is how criminals operate right? Sometimes they just have to brag and whatever they say cannot always be used against them because there isn't enough proof.

And until there is...there is not much we can do, I'm sorry to say.

This is my last post on this topic because I just have to get a few other things out with my anger and frustration as it is right now and having to face the next 4 years of Trump (Hitler).

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I am going to preface this by saying one last thing to start: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Example: Elon Musk launched an illegal election scheme in the weeks before the election that violated 18 U.S. Code § 597 - Expenditures to influence voting - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597. By paying voters $1 million in Pennsylvania for votes. Everybody was up in arms about it. The DOJ warned him to stop. etc.

Elon Musk is on video saying that if Kamala Harris is elected he is totally screwed (for violating regulations in his businesses). The parentheses part is the silent part. Both Musk and Trump have incentives for Kamala not to win. And motivating incentives to commit the election interference that they did.

For Jen Easterly to say there was no fraud or interference is short-sighted at best, or at the worst she simply can't comment on in progress investigations until it's ready to come out. So that's the same story everybody is using.

There is no way Trump won the popular vote legitimately. A rethuglican has not won the popular vote since George W. did in 2004. Hillary destroyed Trump in the popular vote in 2016, a common talking point among Hillary supporters like me. Trump's own followers were sick of him. But what does a personality like Trump wanna do? Rub it in Kamala's face. It's not enough to just win. Like a typical bully, he wants to say "neener neener neener" that "I finally got it all including the popular vote. Now nobody can say that I didn't win the popular vote."

I could believe the election interference if he won a few swing states. But they just had to win everything in a sweep. And every single dang swing state and every single other state except for the extreme left ones? A man that's hated by at least 54% of the country wins every single swing state? The math doesn't math and the logic doesn't logic.

I have to believe we're better than that and refuse to believe that we are a nightmare cesspool of little Trumps full of misogyny and racism that nobody can see an amazing woman like Kamala Harris in a position of power. I refuse to believe that every single pollster other than right wing sources was wrong.

There is no way. Absolutely no way. Joe Rogan is bragging about it even - he saw the app!!! He saw Leon Musk committing that election interference by pressing that button!!! He's bragging!! He should be investigated!!

All the evidence points in the other direction and we have a CISA head that chooses to look the other way. Either that or there are investigations going on and she just can't comment publicly. This was obviously a sophisticated operation that wouldn't show up in normal security scans and requires deeper investigations.

I am not buying that story from Jen Easterly. Not one bit. Also, Al Jazeera is a bit below any of the sources I posted in terms of legitimacy.

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But I won't post about this anymore. I promise. I'll leave my words at that.

I'm going back to a movie.

The next 4 years are just...ugh...I still can't believe it happened. We had everything...all the right people...Taylor Swift...with an army of swifties...Beyonce...Mark Hamill...Harrison Ford many many hundreds...everybody supported and endorsed Kamala. Trump had Kevin Sorbo and Hulk Hogan until Joe Rogan the night before the election.

None of it makes sense. None.

Speaking as somebody who has been on the deep tech side of computers for a very long time (two decades)...this is completely plausible. The question still remains whether or not it's true. I want to believe it. But the question is whether or not anything can be done about it. At this point, I don't know.

It's still something to think about.

Hacker Thinks That the Election May Have Been Stolen at the Tabular Level

https://www.threads.net/@billt801/post/ … Wr-_-Wsa3g

They also didn't read the fine print on how Trump will add $4,000 a year to their taxes while taking away health care too.

Wow. I don't think that's fair at all.

Attacking me over this and calling me names when Trump (Hitler himself) is the 34-time convicted felon?

The only ones who were reporting Trump being ahead, including 10 points ahead, were the Russian-paid polymarket and other right wing outlets and influencers, so keep that in mind. And Trump himself admitted on Joe Rogan that he falsified polls by paying people $500,000 and more to write polls they didn't even do actual work on. The market was being flooded by polls from right wing groups that falsified where Trump was in order to manipulate the polls. This is known fact.

The market was also being flooded with disinformation. I don't think it's fair to attribute the failure entirely to democrats especially when Kamala's campaign was done so beautifully and hit every single point voters needed to hear.

If that's how this is gonna go, I'm out. I don't need to be attacked by fellow dems who refuse to acknowledge that something is wrong here. Especially when I am providing fact.

Trump has said on multiple occasions "I don't need your vote," one of the last times this time being "I don't need your vote THIS time, referring to November" Why doesn't he need his supporters' vote? What is he trying to pull? Is he using voter cards like those used by Cylance as a method of hacking some of the voting systems in 2016? Is he using a combination of Musk's Starlink to block or scramble the correct upload of voting data? It was being exposed by Rachel Maddow that Musk refused to activate Starlink over Taiwan- a request FROM PUTIN.

This isn't over:

State, federal law enforcement at Alfie Oakes' Naples home and Immokalee business Thursday

Part grocery, part bakery, part butcher shop, part bar, Oakes' $30-plus million Seed to Table is the popular hangout for the local GOP's Make America Great Again wing as well as for area foodies attracted by organic broccoli and craft beer.

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/l … 115687007/

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

I have other questions. Nobody has to agree with me. But there are inconsistencies everywhere.

Harris raised a billion dollars, packed stadiums, had many celebrity endorsements, republicans who flipped to vote for her, many hundreds of thousands of endorsements from scientists, legal scholars, generals, military men and women, national security staff, etc., had an incredible and record number of early voters, many thousands upon thousands of blue voters showing up in videos in Texas, Florida, North Carolina? Massive hundreds of thousands of women posting videos to Twitter asking their husbands not to vote for Trump because of abortion? Massive Iowa poll comes down the pipe days before the election by the world's foremost pollster saying Harris is 3% ahead of Trump, a number that's likely conservative. Colin Allred ahead of Ted Cruz in Texas. Every single big pollster from Allan Lichtman to Simon Rosenberg and others said Harris was going to win, a day before. And everything blows up overnight to nothing? And we're supposed to believe that? Explain to me how every single notable pollster gets it wrong. Including the worldwide foremost pollster Ann Seltzer. Make that make sense.

But 15 million of us sat this one out? And we're supposed to believe *that*? Make *that* make sense.

In 2020 Biden had 81 million votes. Trump had 74 million votes

In 2024 Harris got 66 million votes. Trump had 71 million votes.

15 million Democrats decided to sit this one out?

3 million MAGA decided to sit this one out?

Other questions - again, nobody has to agree with me and I'm not sure there is anything we can actually do about it but there are still other statistics that don't make sense.

Trump increased his vote in 90% of the counties in the United States. In 90% of counties in the United States. How is that possible with someone who is disliked and hated by at least 45% of the country? And who spent his campaign railing against Kamala Harris and hurling obscenities and racist tropes at everyone he hates instead of talking about actual policies? And doing stunts like performing a blowjob on a mic stand? And calling Harris trash?

Harris lost in states where Democrats overperformed in the down ballot. So what Democrats are voting for Democratic candidates in the down ballot and not the Presidential race in large numbers? That makes NO SENSE.

Harris lost in states where they approved abortion. There were seven states that had abortion on the ballot - the only one that didn't go through was Idaho. How does this make sense?

None of the numbers make sense. Whatever the reason behind it actually is.

It's not about autocratically seizing power. It's about breaking through the brick ceiling and giving a woman of color what she deserves and what she has worked for and has earned - and we lost that opportunity dearly. There is too much racism and misogynistic views in traditional latino households - They believe women belong in the kitchen. This is not me about those views - that's from MSNBC. So, something has to be done if they aren't willing to do the work to be progressive and learn about what a Trump presidency actually means for them - and it will be devastating. Far more devastating. And they brought this on themselves.

Please note - Trump has not said a word about the working class at all. All he's done is scream and yell about Kamala this and Kamala that. And hurl obscenities and racist remarks about everybody in his voter pool.

It is clear that Kamala is lumping in the working class with the middle class when she spoke about working at McDonald's as a teenager. If it's an error, it's simply a semantic one because she was clearly speaking to both groups and clearly addressing everybody.

And, her entire point is lifting up everybody - regardless of who you are. We lost so dearly on pipe dreams being spread by an autocratic dictator who is going to deport everybody and destroy the United States instead of doing anything to help those who really need it.

Just on CNN: Trump is bragging about talking to Putin shortly about a New World Order. The United States as it exists will not survive.

Sorry about being crass. I'm upset. I'm mad as hell. And I don't need another senile old man like Bernie Sanders trying to tell me where a candidate 20 years younger went wrong. And the democratic party needs to stop the infighting.

She ran a brilliant campaign. It's America who went wrong.

I'm not the only one talking about Trump cheating. Rachel Maddow is:

Trump told his supporters "My instructions, we don't need the votes. I have so many votes."

https://x.com/Hydrixtheaqua/status/1854361900752027797

Goodbye America. Welcome to Gilead.

The rethuglicans now control the House. There are no more checks and balances. It's over.

Get ready for project 2025 to be implemented in one month or less beginning on inauguration day, including the GOP to eliminate all dem positions with zero opposition. None.

If you want to get out of the United States before January, now's the time to do it.

History will record that America died of a self-inflicted wound.

RFK Jr will get rid of all vaccines.

Trump will deport everyone who doesn't agree with him.

Anything that's actual science that disagrees with Hitler will be banned.

Anything that disagrees with Hitler will be banned.

Abortion will be banned.

Women will be second class citizens.

Women will lose their right to vote.

Everyone will lose their right to vote.

America dies in darkness.

I don't think that people believing in fiction aka FOX News should be given a chance to vote. So no, it shouldn't matter what people think the truth is.

The reality is I believe Trump cheated, because nothing adds up or matches anything revealed in the preliminary numbers with women coming out in droves to vote. The hundreds of celebrities who endorsed Kamala. The thousands of people posting to Twitter, etc. saying they were in line voting democrat and for Kamala. All the republicans saying they were voting Kamala over Trump.

Let's see how things actually play out over the next few weeks.

No one has to agree with me and I'm not sure there's anything we can do about it but here are some statistics that don't make sense.

Trump increased his vote in 90% of the counties in the United States. In 90% of counties in the United states, how's that possible with someone who's disliked and hated by at least 45% of the country?

Harris lost in states where Democrats overperformed in the down ballot. So what Democrats are voting for Democratic candidates in the down ballot and not the Presidential race in large numbers? That makes no sense

Harris lost in states where they approved abortion.  There were seven states that had abortion on the ballot, and the only one where it didn't go through was Idaho. Make that make sense!!

These numbers don't make sense. Whatever the reason.

And he wasn't surprised in his "victory" speech. That should be the very tell that should make everybody concerned.

Thanks a lot, America. You destroyed democracy.

You embraced fascism, racism, and a 34-time convicted felonious rapist.

You voted for him anyway.

He showed his true colors.

You voted for him anyway.

America dies in darkness.

I can't believe we are in 2016 again.

Indeed. *breathing nervously into bag*

A great, pointed reference to season 2's Into the Mystic, Grizzlor.

Perfect!

1. His crowd size continues to dwindle and his latest, last stop in North Carolina proved to be the worst one yet, so I doubt it.

2. When women are feeling strongly about an issue, and they are mad about something like Roe v. Wade, I am willing to bet that it is closer to 15% of republicans who are voting for Harris. I say this because it has been reported on MSNBC with the last and final PBS News/NPR/Marist election poll that 8% of republicans are voting for Harris, up from 3% a month ago, and double the number of Democrats who say they will back Trump. Because these polling places only poll a certain number of voters, it is likely that it is much more. Because women are pissed off about Roe v. Wade, and this is going to be the X factor this election. As evidenced by total votes here: (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e … early-vote) 53% of women compared to 44% of men, they are turning out in droves to vote for Kamala Harris and bring Roe v. Wade back to be codified into the U.S. Constitution. They will, come hell or high water, find a way to vote.

3. With Trump's attacking of Puerto Ricans and calling them garbage, they are all upset. And rightfully so. That means that they are very likely voting for Harris too. They've said so. Interviews with them have been showing how angry they are, and this doesn't vary from person to person.

4. Guaranteed, with Trump's continued attacks on anyone that doesn't have "beautiful, beautiful white skin" like he does (that's an actual quote he said at a rally just a couple days ago), anyone who is of black or latino ancestry will very likely be voting for Harris. I think it will be the outliers of this demographic who are going to be voting Trump, sadly.