Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate

On a slight tangent (as I still haven't seen episode 2 of DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN): earlier, someone claimed that transgender women in sports is an issue because people who were born men have physical advantages over women. However, a Salon article covering how Gavin Newsom has decried transgender women in sports notes:

The NCAA estimates that there are fewer than 10 transgender athletes out of 510,000 participants in college sports. While it’s more difficult to track the immense universe of high school sports, the numbers at that level are likely just as small. For example, of the 170,000 high school athletes in Michigan, only two are trans girls.

An International Olympic Committee study conducted at the University of Brighton in England and published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine found that trans women consistently performed worse than cisgender women in tests measuring lower body strength, lung function and handgrip strength. Furthermore, the differences in bone density were negligible.

https://www.salon.com/2025/03/09/democr … top-trump/

With this in mind, the fearmongering over transgender women in sports strikes me as bigotry and hate speech, seizing upon a small number of transgender athletes in sports to claim danger in order to justify a deeply engrained prejudice.

Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

So small spoilers for episode one of Daredevil.  Not a major spoiler or anything you wouldn't see coming from a mile away (and yes you're in the right place).

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So Fisk becomes mayor of NYC.  And the parallels to Trump are pretty aggressive.  It's a little upsetting to see, but here's the thing that I keep thinking:

I think Fisk is better than Trump.

Fisk is a literal murderer, but in scenes where it doesn't make sense for him to lie or put on a show, he talks about wanting to be better.  He talks about how much he loves the city.  Maybe he's doing it for money or power or whatever, but as mayor, he starts making improvements.  He doesn't appear to be sexist or racist or selling out the people for his personal gain. 

Fisk is a bad guy, but at least he's making an effort.  I haven't seen Trump make an effort once in a decade.  And we know a lot more about Fisk than we do about Trump.  I'm sure there are bodies that belong to Trump.  He almost certainly hasn't done it himself like Fisk would, but I'd be shocked if he hasn't had people killed. 

I used to think it was so silly that a comic book villain would be elected mayor or president.  President Lex Luthor seemed so ridiculous and over the top.  And here's the thing:

I think Lex Luthor is better than Trump.

Lex is a monster, but I do think he cares about humanity.  He wants things done his way, and he wants to be the guy that gets celebrated...but he occasionally will step up and fight with the heroes when he realizes what side he needs to be on.  Do you think Trump would do that?  I certainly don't.

In some ways, we live in the ridiculous world.

In terms of President Lex Luthor: he was pretty effective as president, resolving near-wars and conflicts with diplomacy, cleverness, technology and relentless support for metahumans and the Justice League, with Luthor leading the war effort in OUR WORLDS AT WAR against Imperiex and saving the Earth. (There was some question as to whether or not Luthor had prior knowledge of the attack, and he was cleared by telepathic scan, but it may have been rigged.)

In the end, Lex was defeated not because of his presidential performance -- he was excellent -- but because he couldn't let go of his obsession with Superman, made false claims that Superman was drawing a Kryptonite asteroid to Earth, and then put on a crazy supersuit to attack Superman and a variety of heroes, leading to Superman punching Lex out of the suit and out of the White House with Lex buried in charges of illegal orders and falsifying evidence to declare Superman an enemy of state.

The overall sense was that if Lex had focused on his job instead of his weird hatred for Superman, he probably would have served two terms in adulation instead of not even finishing one and crawling out in infamy.

The world has gotten so crazy that Luthor and Wilson Fisk seem like sensible options as leaders: compared to Trump, they're actually competent. However, we have to consider that they may not actually be better; they may simply hide their sociopathy better.

Lex Luthor is an egotistical narcissist who needs to act out his petty vendettas against anyone whom he feels has ever slighted him whether it's someone at a Smallville bake sale who was a little brusque or Superman himself. Regardless of how long Lex held it together as President of the United States, he would have snapped sooner or later whether in his duties or in his obsession with Superman.

Wilson Fisk is a career criminal who used crime to bolster his sense of weakness and insecurity that came with poverty and being uncultured; he once murdered a man for interrupting a date and making him feel awkward and started a gang war over this slight; he ordered numerous murders when creating his empire including Karen Page; he ordered allies murdered to frame Daredevil; he killed Ben Urich for investigating him; he ensured Agent Ray Nadeem went into debt by eliminating his sister in law's insurance coverage in order to make Nadeem's credit score prevent him from being promoted above Fisk's control; he steered Benjamin Poindexter into sociopathy by getting him fired from the FBI and murdered Poindexter's friend Julie Barnes to keep Poindexter pliable and unstable; he ordered Agent Ray Nadeem's death; he engineered the death of Maya Lopez' father to control her and kidnapped Maya's grandmother.

That's just some of what we know. It's a safe bet he's done more.

Maya's powers clearly affected Fisk's mind in some way at the end of ECHO.

MURDOCK:"I was raised to believe in grace. That we can be touched by the divine and be transformed. So if you say to me that you're a new man, I say fine. But you should know I was also raised to believe in retribution. So if you step out of line, I will be there."

FISK: "This caution that you're giving me. Who's it from?"

MURDOCK: "Just stay in your lane. I'll do the same."

FISK: "I'm going to be mayor of this town. And when I am, I will not tolerate people running around in silly costumes. The rule of law will prevail. And should you go back to any of your old activities, there will be consequences."

MURDOCK: "Well then. It appears we really do understand each other."

FISK: "I love a man who rises above his nature. Good luck with that, Murdock."

MURDOCK: "Good day, sir."

But whether or not Fisk is a changed man, whether or not he's pretending or whether or not he's fooled himself -- it's really irrelevant. We have to assume Fisk will, given enough time, turn on New York City and seek to destroy it, even if he convinces himself that he's serving it. And to prefer him over Trump is not really a moral judgement on anyone. They're both bad. But one is competent.

Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate

To me, Trump's biggest flaw isn't his incompetence.  If anything, I think it's the thing about him that I like the most.  If Trump were competent, I think he'd be much more dangerous.  The fact that the Hitler we're getting is really bad at his job might actually save the US because Trump is really really bad at getting things done.

My issue with Trump is that he doesn't seem to ever have the American people's best interests at heart.  I'm not sure he hates the United States, but he certainly does a lot of things to actively hurt it.  If Trump actually loved the United States and wanted it to be great, I wouldn't hate Trump as much (obviously, I still would).  But Trump is actively trying to sell the country out.  He's actively trying to diminish the country and make it less safe for my children.  He's attacking allies that we will need to placate powers we need to be standing up to.  And he's convincing my fellow countrymen that it's okay to do that.

I was thinking about what could get Americans united.  And if Russians actively attacked the US.  Let's say Russia invaded Alaska and secured some of our oil fields there.  Instead of rallying around a common enemy, I bet the narrative would be either that the Russians didn't really do it or that it's okay that they did.  If aliens attacked and we needed to unite as a species, it would either be that the alien invasion is fake or that it's good that they're taking over.

I think, with time, some of this will go away.  I thought it would need to be defeating Trump in a spectacular fashion.  At this point, it may need to be Trump failing in a spectacular fashion, even if it means the next president will need to dig us out of economic and social catastrophe.

Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate

You're right that I was a bit careless with my use of the word "competent". The job of president is to run the country, and Trump is by definition incompetent because he can't do it. However, Trump isn't merely unable to run the country, but actively sabotaging its ability to function or work with other countries. For example, his threatened tariffs on Canada (hi) are going to destroy US access to Canadian metals for automotive production, fertilizer for farming, and electricity that powers US homes. Trump isn't just incompetent; he's actively malicious towards his people and immediately so.

I would say that Lex and Fisk have what I'd call an extended honeymoon period. All their lives, Lex and Fisk have wanted people to see them as generous, heroic, self-sacrificing, serving the common good, and acquiring power by difficult means in order to serve their people.

All their lives, Lex and Fisk have quietly and then overtly hated people for failing to see what simply isn't there. When acquiring political power, Lex and Fisk will declare to themselves and others that they will put their power to use for the good of all and they will. For awhile.

Invariably, Lex will fret and fume that Superman still gets more adulation than he does and start building supervillain armour and engaging in illegal orders out of sheer pettiness.

The Honorable Wilson Fisk, Mayor of New York City, loves his city and wants to protect it and do right by it. That's what he tells himself and he may even believe it; that's what he believed as the Kingpin, murdering and killing his way to control of the NYC underworld. Fisk will always act on his love for New York City... until it fails to love him back.

However, with Trump, there is no grace period. There is no honeymoon. There is simply a sick and twisted freak of privilege and ego and greed.