Not surprising but a bit depressing
602 2022-04-01 18:05:03
Re: Is SLIDERS writer Maureen Johnson THE Maureen Johnson? (1 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Something I wondered recently: is the Maureen Johnson who wrote four excellent SLIDERS novellas THE successful young adult novelist Maureen Johnson?
This is Maureen Johnson's SLIFIC page (archived):
http://web.archive.org/web/200811200217 … hnson.htmlThis is young adult author Maureen Johnson's young adult novel Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maureen_JohnsonJohnson's SLIDERS novellas are absolutely nothing like SLIDERS as a TV show. Johnson's SLIDERS novellas are actually perfect for SLIDERS. Her stories are extremely dark, alarming, disturbing, sexual, sensuous, violent and frightening -- capturing a vivid sense of what some of the more horrific slides might be like. She also captures the quartet really well, so well that I'm compelled to keep going through the story with them and accept that it's a reasonable and powerful version of SLIDERS and she makes sure to never be too traumatic.
I can't really tell from the writing styles in SLIDERS writer Johnson and YA novelist Johnson if they're the same person, but they're both really good and SLIDERS writer Johnson said she was moving into original work.
This is awesome.
Her wiki says she's on twitter...maybe someone can ask..
603 2022-03-27 20:20:50
Re: Sliders Cocktail (3 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Had Rob Floyd on the #SlidersRewatch on Twitter last night. We watched New Gods for Old and he designed us a specific drink.
Rob sure is an artist
604 2022-03-27 20:19:32
Re: Thoughts on Sliders in Random (195 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Speaking of Robin, did anybody know she was a champion surfer (I think in Hawaii)?
Obviously tracy grew up in California, but I wonder if she influenced the existence of the Remmy surfing scene.
605 2022-03-25 20:00:32
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,564 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Love this blog post from sabrina
606 2022-03-25 12:43:02
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
After hours of scanning, lighting/color correction, dust removal of each speck by hand in photoshop at 4800dpi for near 100% accurate detail. I ran it through 2x Gigapixel. Here are the results: A 91.25 Megapixel Photo in webp: https://slidecage.com/wp-content/upload … oup2x.webp. I tried 4x, and 6x to no avail. Likely software and my memory. I know Gigapixel is for low-res images but there's an example of 92.5 Megapixel even though the 35mm doesn't warrant it. Now I MUST restart my computer.
this is awesome!
607 2022-03-23 18:39:18
Re: Thoughts on Sliders in Random (195 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I think Torme definitely had certain people on his mind when writing SLIDERS and Maurice Hurley was someone he despised on STAR TREK, so it makes sense that he made an arrogant middle manager Michael Hurley and a malevolently psychotic little creep Maurice Fish.
Future Torme biographers would also find it a profitable line of inquiry to look into Stephanie, a character deleted from the Pilot. Stephanie was a classmate whom Quinn was hopelessly in love with despite Stephanie regularly rejecting Quinn in one way or another. This may have made more sense when Torme was writing the script and imagining Quinn as a Tobey Maguire type instead of a Tom Cruise type.
Temporal Flux says that Stephanie's scenes were filmed and cut, but I can't imagine Jerry O'Connell's version of Quinn Mallory being afraid to tell a woman that he likes her or obsessing over someone who isn't interested.
That's a great point about Hurley too.
Or who tracy' s Stephanie was.
So now we know cleavant singing at candlestick park and Stephanie are two musts for a collector's edition.
608 2022-03-23 18:07:15
Re: Thoughts on Sliders in Random (195 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Do you guys think Maurice Fish got his name after Maurice Hurley, a TNG showrunner who tracy bumped heads with?
609 2022-03-21 15:18:03
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,564 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Do you have a link?
My wife, mother, and I all wear our masks still (mostly due to my insistence, probably). I still see masks down here in a pretty red part of Texas, which feels good. But for the most part, it's looking like most people are back to normal.
It's very weird. I'll get my 4th dose when it's time (and my wife asked me about getting her 3rd), but I'm genuinely curious how the more cautious among us get back to normal when it's time. When it's officially an endemic, will we still mask? When the deaths stop? When cases drop enough? Or will we still do it, either seasonally or all year?
I don't know how to feel about that. Obviously, I would like to get back to normal at some point, but I also want to do the responsible thing for my family and myself.
I think endemic is considered when there is no spike over the normal. Unfortunately, we are setting a new baseline for what's normal but that maybe we haven't established the new baseline just yet.
With omicron, at least in the U.S. the IFR (death rate) was fairly low and comparable to the flu but spread so much more abudundantly. Really unprecedented. Probably 2m cases a day at times (even if only 1m were captured).
Public health officials should IMO stressing ventilation (HEPA filteration systems, you can build yourself for 50 bucks with a box fan, ductate and filters) or even purchase floor units of varying sizes. They should actually do a good job of explaining what masks work, and of the ones that do, how well. We have a video of biden and cdc officials promoting masking with surgical masks (and doctors and medical staff wearing them quite a bit). No wonder people are confused.
We should be educating the public on antivirals, monoclonals, early invention/treatement and rapid tests. I bet at least half of the people who died from covid/complications would have lived with these early interventions. Maybe as much as 75 percent. The Biden White House treated the vaccine as a magic bullet, that could stop transmission and eliminate severe cases. It didn't stop tranmission. It greatly reduced severe cases.
The problem is we have so much institutional mistrust, we have people who think the vaccine side effects are horrible but covid is nothing, and at the end of the day this is an experimental vaccine with a lack of transparency (won't get into that), and so there was always gonna be some hestitancy. And there was way more than they expected because to some degree, their world is their own bubble, and they don't always understand some of america outside of it. The america that doesn't trust institutions or trusts putting it all in god's hands, even though I am pretty sure god didn't want any of the 1m americans to die (and potentially 18m across the world in some estimates).
The new normal has to be educating the public on the virus, on long covid, on the tools we have in our arsnel (it's not just vaccines!) and empowering people to make individual choices while also implementing measures when necessary to assist the most vunerable populations. Institutions and leaders need to not bend the truth (avoid the noble lie or telling part of the truth) because there's been too much of that from the get go and it has created even more distrust as the public has latched onto these things.
As of now heart disease and cancer combined kill about 2-3x more americans than covid per year. Not sure numbers in canada. We now have another major cause of death to contend with. So it sucks because the older everyone grows, the less the immune system is in shape, it becomes more of a threat. Just a bout with it can age the immune system. People need to do what they can to avoid obesity, diabetes, etc and the governments should be supporting that and including that in the messaging. Hopefully more money goes into medical funding and hopefully there are more breakthroughs in medical technology because of this.
We need to try to come back better out of this but in the short term we have to manage this as best we can, understandingly some people are more risk averse folks, some people just want to live their life and not be fearful about it, we have put our hospital workers through a god awful time and we have various ways of trying to let people live their life while reducing death and severe cases if we don't become political or irresponsible about it.
610 2022-03-20 15:54:08
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I think if Sliders did crossovers it would kick off the concept of sliding as available in all creative universes and then you would start to get crossovers between different properties outside of the one where Quinn etc came from. But that's what marvel does now. It's just not called sliding. It's the multiverse. I would love for it to be sliding instead. Because then you would always have a property that is solely focused on a core group of travelers sliding around the multiverse as well.
611 2022-03-20 09:12:14
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
The argument I would make for crossovers is that generally the network or studio might care about the franchise more because it is a way to create a shared cinematic or televised universe. Universal hasn't really given a crap about Sliders. That may have been different had they done crossovers.
612 2022-03-19 22:18:50
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Okay...in light of our Sliders/X-Files crossover discussion, I went ahead and created a new Sliders (Season 6) + X-Files crossover intro (meant to be used only for a crossover episode...). I thought it turned out quite good. What do you think?
Buwahahaha...
lol, I love it!!!!
613 2022-03-18 19:45:22
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
God no. Please. No crossovers. The Marvel Universe makes sense.
But not crossovers on Sliders. In general, crossovers happen when networks are entirely out of original ideas.
Sliders is a series with so much original idea potential it would be criminal not to exploit that.
Like John Rhys-Davies said...Sliders could have been the next Star Trek if executed properly.
disagreement is a healthy thing.... an interesting perspective.
614 2022-03-18 18:02:23
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Among the many missed opportunities with SLIDERS: it never did crossovers. For cross-marketing purposes, SLIDERS should have crossed over with every single Vancouver-filmed show on the FOX Network and every LA-filmed series on the Sci-Fi Channel. It never did and it's a huge waste of potential. SLIDERS should cross over with every NBCUniversal property.
great point...
615 2022-03-18 12:38:52
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Wouldn't it be cool if Quinn Mallory and Marty McFly interacted? Would love to see those two universes collide. Them working together would be awesome..
616 2022-03-10 19:35:57
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
To me, it's an insult if they don't bring Bakula back...
For Sliders, if you are trying to do a new or younger cast but don't honor / have the original characters, that is an insult as well. However, the folks at these networks dont really care about our beloved characters and can force any showrunner's hand.
617 2022-03-09 18:02:27
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
So what amounts to the Al role (the hologram) is going to Caitlyn Bassett - a former Australian sports star?
could be a diffferent caitlin basset?
619 2022-02-24 18:20:22
Re: Annie Fish on Time Goes By (Podcast Episode) (3 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Good addition to the conversation, ireactions. I love the sliders discourse when its like this. It's also why i loved the podcast -- because it made me look at things different and I know with annie, it's not always gonna be perspective without interesting criticism.
regarding sliding tech, i myself have never cared about the details. I think writers only feel they have to construct a nuts and bolds realism around that stuff because there's a segment of the audience, more of the engineer or science or braniac mind who thinks through that portion of the world, and if they feel that it isn't always truthful, or contradicts itself, it undermines the entire world and not real.
Sliders audience to me seems less TNG and more quirky people interested in differences, interested in alternatives, and people who like the team / working-together themes of the show.
620 2022-02-19 06:32:08
Topic: Annie Fish on Time Goes By (Podcast Episode) (3 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s … 0550993902
Annie is as good in the podcast format as the essay format...
621 2022-02-14 17:49:46
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
looks like the sliders pilot got an AI remaster on a popular reddit remastering forum
622 2022-02-05 14:51:23
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I wonder if Mill Creek were obligated to hand over to Universal whatever DVD files they produced for ownership purposes. I wonder if Peacock took whatever was most recent in Universal's digital archives for streaming, unaware or uncaring as to whether or not the most recent was what was best.
(This is not an invitation for you to send me phone numbers and email addresses and map coordinates to contact NBCUniversal's home video department. I swear to God, if you do that again, I will jump into an interdimensional vortex with Henry and Ryan and disappear forever.)
I think it's also unlikely mill creek sent universal the files after mill creek compressing them. One other possibility *might* be mill creek spelled out the specs they wanted the content in, and then universal used those when the peacock deal came around but I wouldn't call it more likely than them doing the compression themselves..
623 2022-02-03 23:09:55
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
One question would be: who produced the Mill Creek DVD files? Obviously, Mill Creek set up the disc images, but who compressed them to the point of fitting 7 - 8 episodes onto one disc? Did Universal deliver their original DVD files for Mill Creek to compress? Or did Universal's home video department receive the file size limits and hand them over? And could Peacock have simply been given the most recent versions which were then run through the standard process for SD h.264 streaming?
My strong belief is universal gave mill creek the digital files in the largest size they had them and mill creek made the decision to compress to get them to fit on a certain number of discs.
Mill Creek was dealing with the non high end, much more causal fan (this was the third release of the dvds) and at a lower price point, saving 25 cents, 50 cents, 75 cents, a dollar on discs helps preserve their limited profit margin ( which may have been something like 4/5 bucks per unit).
624 2022-02-02 12:03:23
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I don't know how Peacock got where they did, but the screencaps you're showing look like compressed MPEG-2 that's been re-encoded as compressed h.264.
they probably have specs they do on all their content and maybe for some content compressed h.264 holds up better visually.
i am not sure if there is some alternative they could use for sliders but the flip side is they might find the files are too large or they don't accomodate people with slower internet.
625 2022-02-01 10:45:17
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Thanks, RussianCabbie!
These look like the Mill Creek files to me but run through h.264 compression (for streaming) at a low bitrate for SD content. This reduces data layers of noise/grain to make the file smaller.
The Pilot and "El Sid" are, on Universal DVD, two of the *better* presented SLIDERS episodes. The Pilot's 35mm film origins came through clearly and it looks like it was edited on film. "El Sid," while lacking the same fine detail as the Pilot, has good levels of edge contrast thanks to being edited on the industry standard of digital videotape. I have actually never seen "The Dream Masters," but Season 3 looked sharp on Universal DVD. On Peacock, all three look blurry and smeared.
As a result, details like Quinn's flannel shirt and Arturo's beard have become a blur.
It looks to me like Peacock used the Mill Creek files. But where the DVDs use MPEG2 compression (which creates the compression noise artifacts on the Mill Creek discs), streaming services put SD TV shows through h.264 compression at a low bitrate. h.264 compression doesn't generate noise artifacts; it blurs noise and grain for smaller file sizes. You get this if you stream Netflix in low quality and it looks like Peacock did this with SLIDERS as it's an SD show.
"Summer of Love" seems to have been subjected to the same h.264-type compression, but because the original video master started and finished as a blurry mess, the compression has proven irrelevant; there wasn't much to further smooth and smear in the compression.
It's incredible you haven't seen Dream Masters but I'm guessing it's premise is particularly creepy to you and it's best not watched.
In terms of what files they used, do you really think they used the "Mill Creek" files. My guess had been they had one set of digital files that they send to all partners (though I suppose there actually may be a few, which can happen over 20 years). I always assumed though there was one files and then the partners either heavily compressed it or did not. The per-purchase vod files on amazon, verizon cable is awful for instance. But I just assumed that was how the partner who received the files handled things, not because they got a crappy version of the file from universal.
If universal does have different types of files and they gave Peacock crap ones that's not excusable. Unless Peacock wanted small size files to save on bandwidth costs but I doubt they would have made that request.
It's possible that universal just has different versions of the files and the people who work there have no clue that they have different files with better or lower qualty and they just send off the ones that are most convenient.
626 2022-01-31 17:59:46
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
627 2022-01-31 07:31:15
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
628 2022-01-31 07:16:49
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
629 2022-01-31 07:04:43
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
630 2022-01-30 22:08:23
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
SEASON 1 is fuzzy, but also more defined than the dvd's.. this is a free show on peacock, with very few commercial breaks
. The episode order seems to be broadcast, but so are the dvds, the show will play in broadcast order with no stops if you want, season 2 looks slightly better.Just started season 3, watched most of season 5, and to me it looks great.
Granted my TV is 4k 65" vs an old 32" LG, so maybe it has more to do with tv, but I'm enjoying my rewatch.
Trying to get my wife into it, but she isn't a fan, views Quinn as a bad guy getting them involved in sliding, without solving the equation or really testing it before he took the group on the adventure. The recast of the mom in season 2, and casting Clevants twin witch doesn't look identical to anyone but the cast is throwing her for a loop...(I was not a fan of Harry Potterrewatches, so she's dishing it back:)
Out if curiosity do you have the universal dvds or mill creek or something else?
Quinn always felt a lot of guilt about getting the others involved in sliding. Maybe that will make your wife like him more.
631 2022-01-30 22:06:57
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Where are the screencaps?! How can you let me down after everything!?
:-)
It will definitely happen
Tuesday at worst, tomorrow night at best.
It's terrible peacock isn't available in Canada!
632 2022-01-29 12:22:52
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Good to hear that the Sci-Fi Channel years are faring well on Peacock.
How does the pilot look? And episodes 2 - 9? And Seasons 2 - 3?
On DVD, the pilot looks amazing, the eight episodes after that look terrible, Season 2 looks okay, Season 3 looks great, and Seasons 4 - 5 are excellent standard definition video.
It's a shame that the best episodes of SLIDERS have terrible to average quality aside from the pilot whereas the worst in creative quality look the best visually.
I'll take some screenshots. The stuff that's early has soft and fuzzy edges. It's not DVD quality from everything I recall... I believe when I got the German release I saw a significant difference with peacock goodfellas vs. It.
I'm quite picky with this stuff and have generally founded it dated looking as far as earlier seasons, pilot included. The colonization is also an issue for me. This is something that I think the later seasons, across all platforms suffer less from.
633 2022-01-29 07:58:53
Re: Sliders on peacock streaming app (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Honestly, even season 5 on Peacock is nowhere near close to HD. It's very watchable though quality wise.
It is comparitively better I think probably than the the stream that used to be on Netflix (and Hulu although hulu didn't have seasons 4-5). It is probably better than the vod purchases you'd get from the cable operator if you bought the episodes through that platform. Or through like Amazon (or maybe itunes).
I haven't paid that close attention to season 5's look across all platforms. I do know that netflix was always worse than what peacock gave for the rest of the content, the cable operator was even worse than netflix, amazon was also pretty bad. I mostly looked at S1&S2. Comet at times haven't been awful for the later episodes I think.
Looking at what's on Peacock, they could easily up-res S5 with Topaz and come up with a pretty respectable image that wouldn't match HD but maybe get closer. I think what they have on now for S5 is respectable enough as SD content, compartively better looking than earlier seasons and probably better than we've seen it on other streaming / vod platforms in the 2007-2018 era.
634 2022-01-28 21:28:58
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,564 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
IRS will require facial-recognition to access online system
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022/01 … 642779267/
The Internal Revenue Service will require taxpayers to take selfies and verify their identities through ID.me to access online accounts starting this summer
I believe they are doing this to cut down on fraud and I am sure coming up with solutions can be difficult but this strikes me as completely irresponsible of them and potentially infringing on rights.
I do not trust the incompetent government or IRS to be able to protect that database of photos. Either it gets into the wrong hands... just like all of our addresses, social security numbers, addresses etc regularly do with other data leaks or the govt themselves even misuses it. Or the tech doesn't even work and doesn't let people in their own accounts.
If there's a leak of a database of photos with other sensitive info then identity theft will be even easier. And people do have a right to be able to access their tax info... they shouldn't have to risk identity fraud to be able to do it.
635 2022-01-27 08:14:50
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Peacock lost 1.7b last year...
636 2022-01-14 11:46:32
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
almost any IP can be revived with a trusted, prominent showrunner.
637 2022-01-13 16:07:59
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
638 2022-01-09 11:50:41
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Well, both upscaling efforts had two very different goals. Originally, the hope was that SLIDERS could be upscaled to look like a good quality 720p digital video format. The results for the pilot and Seasons 2 - 5 were very good. The results for Season 1's post-pilot episodes were rather muddy and below the standard of the rest.
The second attempt at upscaling Season 1 was not to make it look like HD digital, but instead to aim for the quality of the Season 2- 5 episodes on the Turbine blu-ray set. Those look like high quality standard definition digital videotape versions of a film image (detailed, high levels of film grain). And because it's a lower bar, I aimed for 1080p so that any scaling would be within the video file itself and not dependent on the TV like the 720p upscales.
A new film scan of the PIlot episode would not look very different from the upscale. The Universal DVD version of the Pilot is so crisp and clear even in standard definition that I am starting to wonder if maybe this one episode, as a pilot to sell the series, was actually edited on film. It is a very detailed film image, significantly sharper in all areas than any Season 2 - 5 episode. It's hard to see it in the original SD file and among other SD SLIDERS episodes, but under the Topaz magnifying glass, the Pilot seems to have far more visual clarity and detail than the episodes that followed.
A rescan of Seasons 4 - 5 would also not look too different from upscaled versions of those episodes because those episodes, shot on 16mm film, had most of the film grain detail preserved in being downscaled to digital videotape.
Seasons 2 - 3 would see a significant improvement from a film scan. Scaling 35mm film to 540 line digital videotape will blur and flatten the image and AI upscaling can only approximate the detail to rebuild it for HD and there will be a bit of fuzziness to indicate that it's an upscale and not true HD.
Season 1's post pilot episodes, however, would see the greatest leap forward because the videotape image is so blurry, fuzzy and desaturated. Even after the Topaz deblurring and bicubic scaling, the post pilot episodes have a faint fuzziness that's dependent on a film grain effect to offset that lack of crisp definition.
It would be interesting to try to find out from the editor of the pilot (if they are still alive) whether the pilot was truly edited on film or video tape. I might have to do some googling.
639 2022-01-09 08:43:42
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Well, I took a look more at the samples last night.
I have to say, looking at Last Days, which was a pretty problematic-looking episode with the original dvd source, that this up-res probably is superior to the original up-res.
It obviously has less flaws with the wide shots, so if you were to put this on Peacock or release it on blu-ray, these would probably be the better up-res specs.
It's a very artfully done up res job. It finds a right balance and the coloring is better and less dark compared to the previous version. Also, it's got a naturalistic feel to it, and it really done have the feel of transferred film stock, with the grain and texture.
So I think it's really wonderful to see SLIDERS both with this new S1 up-res job, and also the original up-res job, which had some great strengths in the close up shots and it gave a different sort of feel with the smoothness. On balance, the new one is probably better treatment for s1 for wide distribution. But I love that we've gotten to see both approaches.
640 2022-01-07 19:55:56
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
In order to preserve the grain texture, the files are encoded as H.265, a newer codec that allows for more data at smaller sizes. VLC has the decoder built in. https://www.videolan.org/vlc/
My personal video player package of choice is K-Lite. https://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm
I use VLC, yea.
It's just a super slow computer.
So I was able to take a look at some of it on that computer (I'll switch to the other but wanted to see something so far).
I found it very interesting.
Seems like the new samples vs. the old samples for at least Summer of Love due fix some of the issues with the far wide shots (which had some doubling up of the image, watercoloryness).
And I did notice the more film-grain feel to it.
The coloring is interesting.
original up-res sample

New:
Now my VLC actually isn't totally representative of the actual work because I had made some adjustments for the original content (that worked well for me.
Turned down hue to near zero. Brightness +2
Contrast -4
Saturation -8
Gamma is toward the end of the spectrum.
Added small amount of sharpening and small bit of film grain.
All and all, I feel like they are different (in part due to the coloring of course) and I am not 100 percent what I like better. On one hand there's something I like about the close up shots of the original, on the other hand, there is something natural about the new version and the far shots have less technical issues (if you were putting it on broadcast). So I think they are different beasts. I appreciate them both.
Going to continue to look more at all the stuff when I can get it playing smoothly and downloaded on another computer. The current one I can only see paused frames. It just lacks memory and processing speed and I can have trouble with the machine with heavier applications.
I have to say however, both are far better than the universal discs.
641 2022-01-07 12:44:58
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
update. Gonna have to switch to another computer as the one I downloaded them to is a slower machine (with only 4mb ram). So the video is not rendering well.
642 2022-01-07 09:13:10
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
working on downloading these bad boys now!
643 2022-01-04 18:07:06
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Yeah, it's awful how neglectful Universal is towards SLIDERS.
Here are the samples of all nine episodes Season 1. It's all the end-scenes (the conclusions of each episode, right up to the producer credits) except for "Eggheads" where it's Arturo's scene with his wife. See the sliders fleeing the Russian mob in crisp HD 1080p! See Quinn and Arturo engage the FBI in... less crisp, approximated HD.
https://mega.nz/folder/b9x0AabS#fvf1LxhBxNaFWgBdtE7ZMg
All the episodes were detelecined to remove the aliasing. After that, the saturation was increased on each episode from 15 - 30 per cent. The Pilot was upscaled to 1080p via Topaz deblurring. The rest of the episodes were simply deartifacted with Topaz but left at 480p and with film grain texture added. Then they were scaled to 1080p via a bicubic algorithm and the codec 'tuned' to retain film grain.
I actually increased the film grain on "Luck of the Draw" by more than the rest by about 25 per cent more than the other episodes. This was to offset the episode being significantly blurrier than the rest, more than Topaz could sharpen up.
It's imperfect, but it's significantly better than what I had before with previous upscales when Topaz didn't have a deblur option yet.
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It's interesting what RussianCabbie says about smeared text. This is an anomaly in many upscaled video files done with Topaz 2020. However, I'm running an upscale of Season 2's "Time and Again World." The out of focus text of the Lamplighter bar sign looked really smudged under Topaz 2020's preset for removing compression. However, the 2021 preset for deblurring just leaves it out of focus... but still in HD.
Outside of the Season 1 episodes after the Pilot, upscaling SLIDERS is drag and drop. NBCUniversal could easily do it for most of the episodes and use a slightly more complicated process for the problem episodes of Season 1.
I haven't had real internet access the past number of days but looking forward.to checking the samples when it's back.
I'm taking a look at an older pilot sample right now and just marveling at it.
644 2021-12-30 10:24:09
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
@Tucker re edits yea would be quite interesting.
Google Matt's "the exodus excised" which I think is on video or daily motion.
Combined part 1 and 2 of the exodus.
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In other news re: universals horrible handling of the material, I am watching the pilot that was from an on demand purchase from my cable operator (verizon).
The image is stretched like a 4:3 was stretched to 16:9 BUT the image is still cut off on left and right with black vertical bars. So it is still a 4:3 picture.
Not only that the motion is strobbed. And there is wave like, undulation in the image at times. And the colors look dark.
They are taking something from 1995 and making it like it was recorded off a vhs off some nostalgia channel showing something from the 1970s.
Sliders is not that old but they keep dating it by distributing it like this.
645 2021-12-25 11:48:08
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Plus editing on tape (as sliders did) is another burden. It's very ironic older shows can get HD restoration easier but it's the case.
646 2021-12-23 13:26:28
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Something pretty interesting I noticed. I was watching an archived game from 2012 that the NBA put out of a classic game between the Miami Heat and Oklahoma City Thunder. It was originally broadcast in 16:9, HD. So their archive should have been fully HD etc.
But very strangly, the players uniforms on the Thunder are a bright blue (a bit brighter than maybe the uniform color actually is) but the text on the jerseys, including even the numbers, is completely BLOTCHED out. It's just almost all blue. And there's a water color effect. On close up shots, it's fine. But the traditional broadcast shots, it's like this. Almost as if they intentionally wanted to blur out all text from the uniforms due to a copyright issue. But that's not it.
So I am starting to wonder if any upscaling/faux HDing was done to the content...
647 2021-12-21 20:27:24
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I got a question for you guys.
Is a "remastered and restored" version of SLIDERS the worst pitch for a Netflix? Or would the public just kinda laugh at that.
alright, never mind. I realized the idea is a little ridiculous.
I was prompted by seeing Netflix promoting Knight Rider in their library and showing a "new episodes" label on the thumbnail. So it made it feel new again. And Knight Rider got a full HD restoration. So it made me think of Sliders..
648 2021-12-21 13:21:22
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I got a question for you guys.
Is a "remastered and restored" version of SLIDERS the worst pitch for a Netflix? Or would the public just kinda laugh at that.
649 2021-12-20 17:02:24
Re: American Politics: Discuss and Debate (3,564 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
my guess is here it's like a two to three week wait but i am not sure of that. also now there is likely a surge in interest, which of course will push back timelines.
650 2021-12-19 10:52:47
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Who the hell is Annie Fish
You remember Ian McDuffie, right?
In any case I like that annie has a perspective that comes from it at a different angle than I would and that it also isn't afraid to be 100 percent honest rather than trying to appeal to the sliders community.
651 2021-12-18 16:39:45
Re: 25th Anniversary of Sliders Coming up in six months... (49 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Well, hello!
It's been a long time since I've posted here (I did "Think of a Roulette Wheel," lol).
Anyways, it's the Big Anniversary tomorrow, and I wanted to at least mark the occasion with something, anything.
I had been working, sort of, very slowly, working on making Think of a Roulette Wheel into a book, with updated essays and fresh takes on some old faves. I technically am still working on it, but who knows when of if I'll actually finish it. I'm feeling a little exhausted on the topic of our old friend Sliders, a little bit like I've said all I need to.But! I wanted to at least put up a lil' something for the event, for all y'all keeping the flame ALIVE!
So here's the New & Improved, Revised Season One of Think of a Roulette Wheel, Better, Longer, Stronger—
http://violetmice.com/ThinkofaRouletteWheelS1.pdf
Enjoy! Love on ya! See you in five for the big 3-0!
—Annie
We have an updated essay on the guardian
652 2021-12-17 09:28:21
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
You are right, it is fitting, given the history. Heck, the internet saved the show from being canceled twice.
Of course, you are under no obligation to do any of this work. Nevertheless, that you have chosen to do so, is trail blazing and important for the community. Everything you have found out, I am not sure, anyone else really could have figured out.
The fact that you are actually documenting it and updating the first post, for a sort of cookbook and work diary of sorts, is amazing. There's a lot of knowledge you are sharing.
I remember seeing a webpage where fans upgraded an animated show, I believe it was Avatar The Last Airbender. They posted some instructions for others to be able to replicate it. I thought that was extremely well-thought out of them as it really does enable fans to overcome a studio dragging their feet and doing it on their own.
I do think it's important we keep sliders alive and going through all the continued stuff, whether it be social media, podcasts, fan fic, upgrades that make the old content "new". No show has ever come close to replacing it for me, and I am sure many others, and we have had probably 5-10k scripted series come to tv since then.
I mentioned it to you once before but if the tech ever gets there it would be amazing to build a library of phrases / words spoken by the characters (drawn from 88 episodes) that could then be used (and perhaps algorithmically altered for inflection in context of a sentence) for new fan scripts, audio dramas etc. Throw in eventually a little photo-realistic CGI modeling and well. No need for a studio.
653 2021-12-13 19:23:41
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
All good information.
654 2021-12-12 19:59:58
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Nothing broke, but there was a period where newer versions of Topaz, Handbrake and AVIDemux weren't working or if they were working, they weren't making use of the graphics processing unit. After some experimentation, I've come to realize that the "Studio" drivers tend to work better with these programs than the "Gaming" versions.
The nVidia H.265 video codecs may also make it easier to extract video samples at smaller file sizes with higher video quality that's superior to the H.264 codec I've been using up to this point.
Oh ok. That's a good bit of info for anyone reading this in the future.
655 2021-12-12 19:39:01
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Part of my initial reluctance: it was taking anywhere from 1 - 2 hours to CPU encode the files with increased saturation; the GPU codec kept crashing and the queue would get stuck.
A new GPU update has reduced it to 10 - 15 minutes each and I've just put them all in the queue.
Ok. As I recall, the hardware with your gpu broke. I must have missed.it but did you get a new one? I mean you've been doing a lot of processing lately so that would make sense but I guess i.assumed you were still held back by some limitation due to lack of a proper one.
656 2021-12-12 18:01:53
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Sorry I haven't been posting samples. I am currently running a graphics card update and with that comes a new version of Handbrake and I think the update should allow some improved codecs and GPU processing options.
For some reason, "Summer of Love" is the worst looking episode of Season 1 on all sets. It's downright foggy on Turbine and not very sharp on Universal, like a copy of a copy. For this one, I've increased the saturation by about 30 per cent via AVIDemux. I'm currently using Topaz to denoise it at 480p, then I'll Topaz deblur it and increase the resolution to 1080p like it's a Turbine episode file.
I'm not sure the other detelecined Universal episodes would need this two-pass approach; I'm also not sure if they would necessarily be any better than the Turbine episodes after a deblurring. And I don't think "Summer of Love" will tell me; I'll need to try upscaling the Universal version of "Prince of Wails" to know if the rest are worth doing.
Also, after some consideration, I've decided that I will increase the colour saturation of the Universal files between 15 - 25 per cent for each episode (and I was increasing the colour saturation of the Turbine episodes by about 20 - 40 per cent per episode for the desaturated ones). Might as well make it look closer to Season 2 but not going as far as Season 3.
I am glad you've come to see.the benefits of a proper color correction.
I've always maintained that while the coloring on season 4 and 5 is respectable, the early stuff just has too many issues to consider it anything but distorted from the original image.
657 2021-12-12 16:31:35
Re: What If There Were a Sliders Season 6 With The Original Cast Now? (3 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Thanks for the feedback, RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan!
This one was a passion project of sorts. Hopefully it will help get more people inspired to take action on the Bring Back Sliders petition with more of a "proof of concept" of sorts.
I agree, it's very inspiring
658 2021-12-12 13:50:19
Re: Reboots: The Return of Sliders (?), Quantum Leap, and Other Properties (722 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I think quinn may have gotten his ability to follow how to concoct something from a formula from his mom..
rice is super hard to make without a rice cooker and pasta is a pain in the behind, even though hardly anyone ever talks about it.
659 2021-12-12 13:49:08
Re: What If There Were a Sliders Season 6 With The Original Cast Now? (3 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
This Sliders Intro Sequence fan edit I created provides (somewhat) of an answer...
that was fun and very creative!
660 2021-12-12 13:43:15
Re: Sliders DVD Releases (Universal, Mill Creek, SD blu-ray, Restoration) (937 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I can report now: after detelecine, "The Weaker Sex," "The King is Back" and "Luck of the Draw" now also have the jagged edges smoothed out. There was really only one scene in "The Weaker Sex" that had aliasing: when Rembrandt meets the lady in the car, the lines of her car were very flickery and jagged. This has been toned down to a mild level of flicker. There were a couple shots in "The King is Back" with jagged edges (after Arturo is crowdsurfing, a shot of Arturo with some window shutters behind him). These have been completely smoothed.
"Luck of the Draw" is also cleaned up very well. The original Universal DVD episode was a mess from start to finish with all the produce signs flickering and jagged; detelecine has taken away almost all of the aliasing throughout the episode now.
I don't think, even after detelecine, however, that Topaz can upscale these via grain-to-pixel processing. They're still too blurry. But perhaps they can have Topaz denoise them (to remove the compression artifacts) and then deblur them. I don't know if I'll do them all, but I definitely want to run Universal's "Summer of Love" through this process and also do a new 1080p upscale of the Pilot now that it's been detelecined.
Well, that's a bit of good news...





























