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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Okay, but where are the programs to help those people?  I don't have any love for the coal industry, but these are people who want to work.  Who are willing to do hard work.  They mine coal because that's all their family has done for years.  They aren't going to get a job as engineers.  They aren't going to work for Goldman Sachs. 

Hillary (allegedly) cares about poor Hispanics and poor blacks and poor Syrian refugees.  But she's basically ignoring poor whites.  She doesn't need them to win, but it'd be nice if she pretended like she cared about them.

Please watch her answer today at the association of black and latino journalists event about why are people supporting trump even with his offensive remarks.  I think you will be pleasantly surprised and it relates very much to the recent discussion here.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ … or-whites/

This is an interesting article about why people are voting Trump.

Hint: it isn't because they're all stupid and/or racist, despite what the media wants you to think.

thanks for posting this!

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Thanks for posting your essay. It's really interesting from what I have read so far and am looking forward to reading it through.

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Worth noting: https://www.facebook.com/james.grissom/ … 1889333429

Jim_Hall wrote:

Anyone else notice TVShowsOnDVD 'some of them coming to blu-ray shows' that well they've all been recently announced to DVD-none to blu-ray.

I'm close to buying another DVD case for the upcoming set. If you take a look at the recent release of Mad About You from Mill Creek it doesn't bode well: https://www.amazon.com/review/reviews-l … B01CIS85YE


I thought miami vice and knight rider got bluray?

ireactions wrote:

I think the best way to imagine a SLIDERS blu-ray release from Mill Creek is to put your hands over your eyes and let the empty blackness of nothing fill your sight. It's not going to happen. However, AIRWOLF is interesting in that the 1080p transfer really achieves nothing; there just isn't enough detail in the image to make it worthwhile; I suspect SLIDERS would be about the same.

I am concerned to examine Mill Creek's site and see that they are storing 88 episodes on 15 discs. The previous complete DVD set had all the episodes on 22 discs; does this mean Mill Creek is compressing the video even more than the last release? It's possible the disc count is just preliminary, of course, given that Mill Creek's customer service reps couldn't answer a single question about the DVD.

I was worried about the disc count as well, and it might be a problem (discs cost money and this is a low-margin release for MC so every dollar counts).

However, assuming its dual layer DVDs, and the previous release was not, then it would be like having 30 discs vs. 22.  It will probably be dual layer with 6 episodes per disc, and potentially some extras on a disc with 4 episodes.

Grizzlor wrote:

upconverted that yourself?   the netflix quality looks awful.

Yea.  The netflix is putrid.  With good source files (like the pilot dvd), as ireactions has said in the past we can get a decent picture using software that algorithmically fakes HD. It fills in empty lines of resolution in going from SD to HD, deals with noise, colors, sharpness, etc.  I have a family member who has done this stuff before and did it for me with this material.

It looks tremendous on an 60 inch tv and was even able to get it looking pretty good projected at 150 inches (but it required my playing it using power dvd's own video enhancement setting).

I'm away now, so I don't have access to my DVDs for a screen shot, but here's an example of the netflix pilot vs. a pilot upconverted off the dvd file (stretching for 16:9).

https://i.snag.gy/tIGqjm.jpg

ireactions wrote:

There's no way the HUB could have done the HD upscale unless they were given the raw materials from Univeral to do it in the first place.

Oh, I agree with that.  Here's hoping Mill Creek works with the same.

ireactions wrote:

If the HUB could get the digital materials to do a decent semi-HD upscale, I see no reason not to think Mill Creek couldn't benefit from the same. It's possible that Netflix and Universal came to the streaming arrangement before Universal had a department and a procedure for handling HD broadcast on shows only stored as standard definition on their masters. The Professor would tell you to expect nothing but hope for everything.

I just don't know if Mill Creek cared or even knew of the issue with the early episodes, enough to reject the existing digital assets (if those were offered).  Since Mill Creek is pricing this extremely affordably and has lower margins on this release, it's really not clear if they'd try to do a transfer themselves.  And Universal only recently put out their own series two years ago, so they may just send those files MC's way.  It is 88 episodes after all, and doing a transfer cost money (might be about $9k).

The thing about The Hub is they were broadcasting in HD. And we know they put in some resources into sliders, producing promos etc.  It's just a bigger outfit than MC.

So I think it could go either way, we'll see October 4 smile

ireactions wrote:

A blu-ray release could store the video at the highest possible quality, but I imagine even if you maxed out the bit rate, the video quality would not be any better than video at the upper limit of DVD storage. Universal's masters are undoubtedly in standard definition. So long as Mill Creek doesn't overcompress the way Universal did, it should be fine.

Right, as long as they are doing a transfer themselves... and not just reusing the digital assets Universal has sent out to netflix, vod and used for the previous DVDs (all which look like crap for those non-pilot early episodes).  That's what I fear but if they do the transfer themselves, I think we'll definitely see improvements as  I can't see how they could f it up more than Universal did.

Transmodiar wrote:

Is there anyone in this thread that doesn't already own the series on DVD - or can catch it on Netflix? What is the audience for this release at this point?


I think this article, speculating in April about what Mill Creek's Quantum Leap release would be like, highlights their business model:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Quantu … nd-2/22175

Mill Creek hasn't said in their announcement materials one way or the other, but for fans hoping that this re-release would correct the missing material from the original DVDs that Universal put out in 2004...we have NO reason at this time to believe that Mill Creek's releases have that missing material. Our expectation at present is that the episodes will be the same on these new versions, and that the re-release isn't targeted at passionate fans who already own the previous versions (but rather, like many of Mill Creek's re-releases, at casual fans who missed picked up the original DVD sets, perhaps due to cost).

If we look at the Sliders release by MC in 2016, it's suggested retail price is $45.  The Universal one in 2014 was what, $150 or something?  So MC is really offering this at the fraction of the cost. Of course, people do have options to buy season sets individually on the cheap or get the 2014 release used.  Who knows how well this will do, as long as Mill Creek didn't pay much for the license they should be ok, I think.

sliders5125 wrote:

My guess is the new release coming out may look better single layer disk, etc. The problem If you got the hub episodes is the bottom of the screen hub would take up to advertise what was coming up or contest, so you would end up with an network logo on all episodes.

Ah, I was just thinking there'd be a logo. Still would probably be worth it if the source files were materially better. Not to mention, I might be able to figure out a way to use the bottom of the dvd image to cover that stuff.

I would guess if the new release dvd sells good the only thing left to do is a bluray conversion.

I would guess the last couple rereleases had some sales for their to be a complete season rerelease with episodes in correct order...tthis is the 1st time anyone has 5aken the time to do this on dvd...with it being a new conversion it may have less episodes or a better conversion.

The show was shot on film but the badly done special effects would have to be redone..would be nice to get a star trek classic series or sting bluray redo but I can't see anyone spending the money....maybe could talk amazon into it as an exclusive on demand project.  I t would be cheaper than a 13 episode show and their is a built in audience

Even low-budget projects cost about $800k per episode.  Unfortunately, no way we have enough power to do that for an exclusively premium distributed product.

As far as blu-ray, to do true hd they'd also have to re-edit everything because the film negatives are just what was shot, not the edited episode. So you have to re-edit which takes time, and too many man hours for a project with sliders dvd sales.  Although I did hear of one series where they used image recognition technology to reassemble the shots. But it's huge obstacle outside of special effects.

But, as ireactions has said before, they could do a simulated hd verison... we would just have to push universal to make something like this happen. I don't think they care, and frankly, I think they have bigger fish to fry, which is why the dvd releases have gotten the past treatment they have.

Transmodiar wrote:

You mean this one?

http://earthprime.com/video/making-of-sliders-sfc


Not sure if you have these, Season 2 EPK:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x43bem … -part-1_tv

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x434ln … -part-2_tv

Aaron had posted this in another thread.

sliders5125 wrote:

Looks better than season 2 dvd's, but these are the ones from 2004 in the floating DVD case, they had like 6 episodes compressed on one DVD something new at the time where as previous to this release usually there would be 3 hrs on a single dvd vs the 5hr + on these dvd's.

Saying that the HUB Broadcast looks better, as said before their are black bars on the left and right of the screen being that The HUB was an HD only TV network.

The DVD has more grain...The HUB images look slightly better.

Is it a drastic difference "No", I am playing the DVD on a bluray player with a DVD up-convert so I am getting the best version of what the DVD could offer.

The HUB was the only network to try Sliders Reruns and they aired them in order with the best quality possible...I wish it would of worked but we had an extra year of so of new eyes getting to see Sliders again.

I checked it out on Netflix, Netflix looks better than DVD, HUB still looks better.

Ok, thanks. My understanding from what others have said is the 2014 Complete Series DVD didn't have better quality for the season 1 & 2 episodes on the 2004/2005 DVD release.

It sounds like either the Hub did their own transfer from the master tapes and/or did an upconversation on the digital assets, either from their transfer or the one provided by universal.

It doesn't sound like you're saying there's a huge difference but its better. Since we're never going to get a Blu-ray and I find the quality of the season 1/2 on DVD or netflix makes it look like a show out of the 80s (or 70s), I'm going to have to see if it's at all an option to get stuff from the hub to do my own upconversion job with. I remember The Hub looking better, but it's been so long, I wasn't sure to what degree. Sounds like it's still pretty meh.

sliders5125 wrote:

I have "The Good,the Bad and the Wealthy" & California Reich on my tivo premier.
but i dont realy have a good way to transfer them to anything else


Would you be able to compare "The Good, the Bad and the Wealthy" to the DVD version and see if you think the image quality is better on The Hub vs. the DVD?  I'm interested to see if The Hub broadcast the same digital file as what the DVD had, or if it were any different.

Did anyone happen to DVR the Hub episodes (particularly season 1 & 2 eps) and still have them on your box?

ireactions wrote:

The problems you describe with your stretching strike me as too high a stretching percentage on too much of the border areas with insufficient cropping to obscure the width issues of movement. My HTPC uses Cyberlink PowerDVD with their stretching algorithm called TrueTheatre Stretch: http://www.cyberlink.com/stat/technolog … _video.jsp Their technique does not create the distortion you describe.

Oh thanks!

ireactions wrote:
Jim_Hall wrote:

Stretching 4:3 to 16:9 would be a tragedy for Sliders. I'd rather see 4:3 in HD rather than a stretch.

Here's an example of how SLIDERS could be upconverted to 16:9 with a plug and play solution. This is how SLIDERS looks when I watch it on my HTPC and switch on the upconvert. The upconverted version is on the right.

The algorithm isn't just chopping the top and bottom off a 4:3 image. It's stretching the edges of the image at a moderate percentage for the left and right and an even smaller percentage at the top and bottom, filling a 16:9 space while losing some detail at the border of the image, but not remotely as much as uniform cropping and it avoids distorting the image.

https://i.imgsafe.org/7d9a3d0986.jpg

I ended up doing the smart stretching based on your recommendation. It was great for getting a sense of what a 16:9 scan would look like, but I think I may go back to 4:3.  From what I saw, every time characters weren't in the middle of the frame (eg when they were on the sides), they stretched too much, and their width changed as they moved through the frame.

I'm pretty frustrated with us likely not even getting simulated HD with this release, but hopefully as you say the source files are of better quality. I am not holding out hope. Perhaps I am mistaken but even on Netflix the pilot seems to be much higher quality than other episodes from season 1. I think universal just sent Netflix the ones they had on hand for the dvd and will do the same with Mill Creek.

I'm going to try to post my clips of my upconverted pilot at some point, somewhere. If we can get quality enough source files for the episodes, I might just try to do a blu-ray myself, because I have no faith in the likelihood Universal bothers with giving us anything new anymore.

Out of luck on the blu-ray
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Slider … ries/22442

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ireactions wrote:

My thoughts on RussianCabbie's thoughts:

I can't think of anything more terrible than SLIDERS as a fan series with the clumsy non-actors and non-directors of these STAR TREK fan films to be performing scripts that were written as pastiches of Jerry, Sabrina, Cleavant and John's performances. I can't think of anything more unwatchable than poor thespians attempting to imitate these talents.

It is beyond me why you are so keen on people doing poor impressions of these actors -- a desperation for more product even if that product is utter crap. Tom and Cory's impressions of the SLIDERS are, if reviewed as serious drama, an abomination of performance -- they can't maintain the caricatures, they drop the accents, they can't seem to do a character voice and act at the same time -- which is perfect when they do their parodies and horrific when doing it seriously -- and yet you still wanted them to perform a more serious SLIDERS script in character! You said it would be "divine" which tells me you have nearly zero concern for quality (outside of hating SLIDERS REBORN based on a half-assed effort to read 50 pages of it).

But if it makes you happy, go ahead. All those STAR TREK fan films are mostly awful awful awful -- but they made their creators happy by existing.

The idea of getting impersonators is because I don't think you can get the real actors. I once did think that might be possible... as a final send off of the series for sliders fans... but with jerry now interested in doing a tv series, I would think he wouldn't want to do what would be canon via a uncommercialzed one time radio drama.

I don't think corey/tom were doing those things seriously.. they were meant to be funny.  You'd have to find people who could do a decent job of sounding like these characters.  Although not easy, I think its possible. And I don't think you do it if you can't find those folks. I realize this more now than I once did.

I do agree bad actors would make the entire thing satirical in a bad way.  Trying to do such a project is not something I'd even suggest pursuing at this time, I just brought it up as a form of a fan revival that I think is more reasonable to achieve then doing anything live action, like i think informant was suggesting.... because it is just so much bigger of an effort once cameras are involved.

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Informant wrote:

On another note, we should totally create a Sliders fan-made series! I'm sure we could get some of the old actors. At the very least, we should be able to get some of the old Star Trek actors who are out of work now!


Informant wrote:

Not really on topic, but I've considered reworking some of my fanfic into entirely original stories and selling them. I have a bunch that would work. I could probably churn out a bunch of novellas just using those ideas.

Hmm... interesting.


One of the things I would super-appreciate if people did is write to Amazon's Kindle Worlds program (http://kindleworlds.amazon.com) and ask them to add SLIDERS as a world. This will allow authors to write Sliders work (minimum 5k words up to full length books) and be able to sell it on the kindle platform, and get compensated for it.

It takes two seconds to write Kindle Worlds, you can do so here: https://kindleworlds.amazon.com/contactus 

They already responded when I wrote them, saying:

"In order to submit or create a World we need you to please send us a request, just like you have done. Your request has been recorded.

We continue to expand the program, and will keep your offer in mind when we open negotiations for new Worlds.

If we believe there's an opportunity to work with them, we'll be definitely announce and let you know about it via email.

I think if they get 5 or 10 requests, it's certainly better than just one so I hope folks here will send a brief note. It would seem to help to improve the chances.  I know Aaron, who many of you have heard on Sliderscast, would want to try to do a Sliders series (he's already done six non sliders books), and I am sure there's some other authors out there who've already done work that can be repurposed for the program.

We have a lot of good authors in the community, and it is a way of carrying the torch with regard to the franchise continuing to put out stories, and at least there's a little financial incentive, even if it by and large remains passion project writing.  Getting Sliders on Kindle Worlds is a achievable goal.

As far as your mentioning a fan-made Sliders series, I think it would be certainly cool to do teleplays... there are a couple of great JRD impersonators out there, there's a guy who imitated Jerry's voice for VO work on the Kangaroo Jack animated series, doing Remmy wouldn't be too hard, and same with Wade. I think a decent quality audio production could be put together for $2-5k. I think Sliders 2015 is perfect for it. And I think it would be plausible to raise the money on kickstarter.

That said, I'm not even thinking about the teleplay nowadays.  Since Jerry wants to bring back to tv series so much (especially if he doesn't get the Kelly talk show gig), I'd like to see how that plays out. I had an interesting exchange on twitter with the co-executive producer on NBC's blacklist, a friend & past collaborator with Tracy, and while I think it'd be awful hard to get a network without the right things in place, I'm not giving up on the idea that a tv series or tv movie is impossible.

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Good looks!

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Great stuff! I like how Ib always helps shape the narrative or cause you to look at things differently with his commentary. He's a natural (and reminds me a bit of the podcaster who does Bureau 42 (https://bureau42.com/) and also the TV Critic podcaster (http://www.thetvcritic.org/). And of course, you and Cory are fantastic.

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ha!

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Luck of the Draw

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Informant wrote:

I have reached the Doggett era in my rewatch. I had always remembered liking the character, but thought that I would see weaknesses in the show after Mulder left that perhaps I didn't see before.

Oddly enough, I don't. I find Doggett to be refreshing. He is a skeptic, but with an open mind. He isn't a blind follower of his bosses, but he also isn't as quick as Mulder to throw aside his duty. It is a nice change of pace. He should get a lot more credit as a character than he does. Too bad that we haven't seen more of him. I imagine him going back to police work in his home city, after getting sick of all of this federal conspiracy crap.

Still haven't seen Reyes' episodes yet. Something to look forward to, despite the fact that I didn't like what the revival did to her.

I liked Doggett.  Too bad scorpion got in the way for his return.  Didn't like Reyes' storyline on the revival but I'm already jonesing for more x-files and really liked having new X Files to look forward to.

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hallge73 wrote:

I was watching the pilot again and decided to focus in on some of the details during the room scan.  Couple things I found interesting after some further investigation.

First, the radio host's name is, of course, Day Tripper.  Day Tripper is a song by the Beatles.  Interesting fact is the Beatles played their last concert together on August 29,1966 ... get ready ... in Candlestick Park, San Francisco; Rembrandt's destination during the first episode.  Day Tripper was one of the 11 songs they performed that night.  Also, there is a line in the song that goes like this:

"She was a day tripper, a one way ticket yeah."

Obviously it foretells the group's adventures. Haha. 

Second, the quote on the Einstein picture.  I know some see this, among other things, as a possible indication that the show is not set in our world.  I don't think that is the case.  I don't think that picture attributes that quote to Einstein, opposed to the correct person, E.E. Cummings.  One thing to note is that the quote depicted on the picture is not exactly the E.E. Cummings quote anyways.

Picture ==> "Listen there's a helluva good universe next door. Let's go!"
Actual E.E. Cummings quote ==> "Listen, there's a hell of a universe next door: let's go!"

Moreover, there is a link between the quote and the book Quinn fell asleep reading.  The quote appears in the chapter 10 title of the book, Hyperspace: A Scientific Odyssey Through Parallel Universes, Time Warps and the Tenth Dimension.  The chapter begins by mentioning how Einstein's equations predicted the existence of black holes.  So, in my mind the picture of Einstein relates his predictions to the quote, not that he actually said it.

You should post that on tracy torme's wall. I am sure he'd appreciate someone figuring it all out.

https://www.facebook.com/Tracy-Torme-224553447677483/

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Just came across this series, which is seems to be at the writing stage (they are writing the first 10 seasons before shooting).

Here's the synopsis:


Described as an espionage thriller with a metaphysical twist, Counterpart tells the story of Howard Silk (Simmons), a lowly cog in a bureaucratic UN agency who is turning the last corner of a life filled with regret, when he discovers the agency he works for is guarding a secret: a crossing to a parallel dimension. Through Howard and his “Counterpart” on the other side, Prime, the show will navigate themes of identity, idealism, what ifs, and lost love.

Some info:
http://thebitterscriptreader.blogspot.c … rt-iv.html

http://deadline.com/2015/04/jk-simmons- … 201414188/

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Thanks, will check it out!

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I honestly don't think I ever saw this episode until I watched in a few months ago. At least I didn't remember it.  It wasn't a perfect episode, but I appreciated what they were trying to do with the premise.

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http://io9.gizmodo.com/nbc-is-jumping-i … 1776760787

Looks interesting. .

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ireactions wrote:

Oh, at one point, Matt asked me to review Ian McDuffie's PARADISE LOST: THE COMIC BOOK, a volume that I personally consider unreviewable, resulting in this essay:

http://earthprime.com/essays/paradise-lost-the-comic

Beautiful thank you!

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8.5        Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome        137 Votes
8.2        Pilot        1,104 Votes
8.2        Luck of the Draw        148 Votes
8.1        Invasion        122 Votes
8.1        Double Cross        121 Votes
8.0        The Guardian        141 Votes
7.9        Last Days        161 Votes
7.9        Gillian of the Spirits        131 Votes
7.7        As Time Goes By        115 Votes
7.6        Fever        188 Votes
7.6        The King Is Back        142 Votes
7.5        Into the Mystic        137 Votes
7.5        The Exodus: Part 1        118 Votes
7.4        Eggheads        164 Votes
7.4        El Sid        137 Votes
7.4        Love Gods        130 Votes
7.4        Rules of the Game        122 Votes
7.4        Dead Man Sliding        108 Votes
7.3        The Weaker Sex        142 Votes
7.3        Greatfellas        115 Votes
7.3        Lipschitz Live!        83 Votes
7.2        Summer of Love        152 Votes
7.2        In Dino Veritas        119 Votes
7.2        The Exodus: Part 2        116 Votes
7.2        Season's Greedings        115 Votes
7.2        World Killer        80 Votes
7.1        Prince of Wails        163 Votes
7.1        The Young and the Relentless        111 Votes
7.1        Murder Most Foul        111 Votes
7.1        Revelations        92 Votes
7.0        Obsession        115 Votes
7.0        Virtual Slide        78 Votes
6.9        The Good, the Bad and the Wealthy        134 Votes
6.9        Time Again and World        123 Votes
6.9        Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?        75 Votes
6.8        State of the A.R.T.        116 Votes
6.8        The Alternateville Horror        76 Votes
6.7        California Reich        82 Votes
6.7        Slidecage        79 Votes
6.7        Asylum        73 Votes
6.7        My Brother's Keeper        64 Votes
6.6        Electric Twister Acid Test        130 Votes
6.6        Desert Storm        127 Votes
6.6        The Prince of Slides        103 Votes
6.6        Slide Like an Egyptian        103 Votes
6.6        Roads Taken        71 Votes
6.5        The Dream Masters        143 Votes
6.5        The Fire Within        109 Votes
6.5        Common Ground        74 Votes
6.4        Dragonslide        112 Votes
6.4        Paradise Lost        105 Votes
6.4        Genesis        98 Votes
6.4        Way Out West        76 Votes
6.3        Just Say Yes        77 Votes
6.2        Sole Survivors        114 Votes
6.2        Prophets and Loss        84 Votes
6.2        The Return of Maggie Beckett        57 Votes
6.1        The Last of Eden        106 Votes
6.1        Stoker        104 Votes
6.1        The Dying Fields        78 Votes
6.1        Net Worth        77 Votes
6.1        A Current Affair        54 Votes
6.0        Slide by Wire        66 Votes
5.9        The Other Slide of Darkness        97 Votes
5.9        Dinoslide        97 Votes
5.9        Mother and Child        69 Votes
5.9        Data World        66 Votes
5.9        Please Press One        61 Votes
5.8        This Slide of Paradise        107 Votes
5.8        The Breeder        103 Votes
5.8        The Chasm        78 Votes
5.8        Dust        58 Votes
5.7        A Thousand Deaths        55 Votes
5.6        Slither        101 Votes
5.6        Strangers and Comrades        58 Votes
5.5        Map of the Mind        53 Votes
5.3        The Seer        80 Votes
5.3        Requiem        61 Votes
5.3        To Catch a Slider        54 Votes
5.3        Eye of the Storm        51 Votes
5.1        Applied Physics        61 Votes
5.1        Heavy Metal        57 Votes
5.1        The Great Work        54 Votes
5.0        New Gods for Old        61 Votes
4.7        The Java Jive        62 Votes
4.7        Easy Slider        62 Votes
4.3        The Unstuck Man        82 Votes


Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112167/epv … =ttep_ql_5

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This might work:

http://i.imgur.com/La9m6ws.jpg

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Sept 27, with a mini celebration on Sept 24 too (but you still have to go to work).

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Chris Carter, interviewed at a Smithsonian event:

https://www.facebook.com/smithsonianmag … 721118253/

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Jim_Hall wrote:

At any rate, if Jerry does get the job there's no doubt it will be a plus for Sliders in some capacity.

I agree. Would give him a bit more cache. It can only go up from what it is now.

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Informant wrote:

Unless you've been shunning the internet for the past week (or maybe if you live in a different country), Michael Strahan announced that he was going to be leaving Live! with Kelly and Michael in September to join Good Morning America full time. Big behind the scenes drama ensued because Disney (and by their orders, Michael) pulled the run out from under Kelly and the entire crew of Live, by not informing them of this decision until it was announced to the press.

Since then, Michael's last day has been pushed up to May 13. This move surprised pretty much nobody.


Now, the search for Kelly's new cohost is once again firing up (poor woman. I hope she wasn't planning to leave the show in the near future). One of the names that has been making the rounds for this rather huge opportunity is Jerry's. I've seen him mentioned by a lot of people in the comments section of articles, as well as hosts of other shows that have discussed the topic.

If this process works anything like the last time, Kelly will rotate co-hosts for all of next season and finally choose one to begin the following year. Jerry may pop up as a cohost several times, if he is really in the running. We won't know for some time.


In other news, who leaves a successful, established show with their name in the title, to join a fading morning news show with way more personalities to contend with and worse hours?

Yea, Jerry killed on Wendy Williams and she's been raving about him, and his championing him for the gig. She as well as EW asked Jerry's wife Rebecca in interviews about it, and she's supportive, so I think it's something he wants.

Apparently Jerry co-hosted as a fill in for the show in the past, around 2011, so it might be part of the reason he's gotten some buzz.

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RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I was the one who reached out to the ComicCon folks about a panel - a Sliders reunion panel as Grizzlor put it.  I got in touch, heard back, gave them my pitch and am hoping they follow up with interest. I think it's our best chance at getting the ball rolling, the same way that frankly I am not sure X Files would have ever returned if there wasn't a podcast about it from a semi-famous actor and Gillian didn't go on nerdist. These things are incredibly stupid in terms of how they work but it basically took that for a renuion to happen.

Sorry guys, wasn't able to get anywhere with this. I don't think ComicCon has interest. Perhaps the results could be different if it wasn't just a fan reaching out.

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And he got drafted by the Buffalo Bills!

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SliderTen wrote:

As someone with a 3D printer I was elated today to come across this timer model. I'm busting out a print right now so we'll see how it turns out in a few hours.

Link: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1461258/#comments


How'd it go?

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Cool!

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SliderTen wrote:
RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

Does the story ever get public? I'd love to just read what other people have put together.

It was public but I had prying eyes and decided to make it private. However you can read the first season we did as well.

Any chance you're interested?

Thanks! I'd really rather just read other people's stuff, I would not be a good contributor but I think there are great good folks  here (also post to /r/sliders on reddit) smile  I will check out season one.

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SliderTen wrote:

What I think the true issues are with Sliders is this: It never had enough traction when it WAS on TV to ever get a second thought as a reboot. We have to remember some key things about Sliders:

1. We fought tooth and nail to get season two made. If it wasn't for the email campaign that crashed FOX's servers, Sliders would've joined VR-5 for good.

2. Sliders still was on the bubble for a pickup on season three. That was never guaranteed.

3. Sliders was never a ratings hit to justify much attention. Hence why episodes were out of order for every FOX season and how much the network meddled in it. If Sliders was a hit out of the park, they'd be hands-off and let production handle itself like with X-Files.

4. Scifi made some good strides to get the show back on track but they too never gave the show enough budget or direction to take it to the next level.

Sliders was always the "little show that could" and I still am amazed that we got five seasons. We had to fight for every single one of them. If you look to a much more popular show like Quantum Leap, that STILL has no chance of coming back and that was way more popular than Sliders, IMO.

I want a reboot / reimagining more than anyone and the fact that Jerry is on board is a HUGE plus. However, it's a property that is a bit tarnished due to how it was handled and no major powerhouse to champion it.


All so, so true.

At the end of the day, without someone who holds actual power either at NBC Universal open to the idea of bringing it back, Sliders has no chance.

Eh, there are people with power.  Universal licensing division. They'll license the property to anyone willing to pay enough.  A license wouldn't be all that substantial with sliders (compared to other more top tier properties) because there's just not a lot of demand for the license.

This makes me wonder if the efforts to do something need to be more focused on the business side such as trying to bring it to the attention of Netflix's brass or working to contact Universal and getting their attention. Once someone's eyes are on it, THEN we pounce with a Kickstarter / Jerry / petition / mass movement.

And this is what we have to hope for and try to do.  We have to hope that someone wants to make a pilot or mini series or movie or series with the Sliders brand (a production company, network or studio).  We know basically the only folks who will really look to do that are the creators of the original series or anyone who jerry can convince to work with him on it (and he seems to be looking to the original show creators right now to "drive").

You posted a spectactuler press kit from Season 1.  This is substantial, and can be used as a weapon in our fight. If you watch those interviews here's what's clear:

- The cast loved each other
- The cast was enthusiastic about the project and were very happy with season 1
- They all had a lot of fun working on the show.

This footage can be used to be spliced together to put together highlights.  This is a perfect tool for taking the principals back to that place in their lives and remind them of how they felt and how others felt about them. John gave Jerry one of the greatest compliments a young actor can have.  I think we can use this to help motivate the gang.  If we get something together, I'll probably try to track down Bob Weiss' email and see if I can pass it along to him as well. He's involved with the X Prize Foundation, so this might be possible.

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Does the story ever get public? I'd love to just read what other people have put together.

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Thanks so much for posting!  It's crazy to see how complimentary John was of Jerry, and how much all four original cast members were so enthused about the show, especially Jerry.

FOX just destroyed the Show.  The first season was perfect.  I think John would have liked to have explore more scientific possibilities, but even so, I really have no qualms with anything in season 1.  I do think its a shame FOX pushed Sliders more toward the action genre.

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SliderTen wrote:
ireactions wrote:

However, we tried that and... well, we hit the problem I described above; the people contributing to the project came to the gradual but inescapable conclusion that they would gain more profit from doing their own stuff. Hell, Matt is constantly advising me to drop the SLIDERS stuff and write my spunky teen girl detective series instead.

Has anyone actually approached Universal proposing books or comics? I know there's an entire publishing arm that has to go with it, but I've found that tie-in works to a property can sometimes be easier to achieve.

I don't think Universal owns any comic book companies (not in that business), but maybe I am wrong?  Assuming I am not a licensing deal with another party would be the only way.

Lion Forge, that did a bunch of licensing of universal series, a couple of years ago, was the best bet for the comic book route, but I dont think they've been particularly successful.  They had licensed Airwolf, Punky Brewster, Saved By the Bell, and some others.  I'm just guessing they haven't necessarily done well enough to follow up and expand to more series (like sliders).

Some people, including I believe temporal flux, had looked into doing a comic.  The production costs are minimum like 15-20k... art, writing isn't cheap, and it would be difficult to make commercial viable unless you really know what you are doing and its not your lone property.

I don't think the orignal Sliders comic did even all that well either. I've gotten the sense that the sliders audience isn't necessarily the comic book audience either (which seems to be more super hero focused) but perhaps I am wrong about that.

I honestly don't remember.  I may have posted twice on the old earthprime boards but never really participated in the old sliders communities like most here. Started posting a few years ago here.

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I really wasn't meaning for the Kelsey Grammer thing as something all that serious as a strategy. My point was, besides Jerry, Tracy and us, the cupboard is pretty bare in terms of people who are serious about wanting sliders to come back.  The only famous, influential fan of the show we know of is a celebrity that we don't even know if he really did have interest. So I was trying to illustrate Sliders is not going to be resurrected by some outside force.

If they ever did get any momentum with a revivial, I am sure they could check with Kelsey to see if he really was a fan and wanted some involvement.  But it's not something to look at as how this thing is really going to get made. And we as fans can only try to provide gentle nudging to try to push people who actually can make an effort to really try bringing this to life.

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Grizzlor wrote:

Kelsey Grammer is a Sliders fan?  Damn I saw him on Broadway, I could have asked him!

ugh, it would have been perfect to have found out. He has a production company and actually has some clout to get things done.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

Torme does not appear to be that guy.  He is way out of the picture in Hollyweird these days, and seems far more wrapped up in UFO's.

And that's basically my ultimate point re: Jerry.  If Sliders is ever going to return, in any form, it needs a champion.  Someone who will go into the important offices with a pitch and make things happen.  That's how this stuff works.

You're right: Torme isn't that guy anymore.  If he was, it would've been done already.  And my point has been, Jerry might not be that guy, but he's the best chance the show has as far as we know.  He's the only one talking about it. 

Example: Battlestar Galactica.  It's another small sci-fi show with a cult following.  Its star, Richard Hatch, spent years and years and years trying to get a continuation produced.  Made comics, made novels, made a teaser trailer for a continuation called "The Second Coming".  He got really close a few times.  And while he never got his version on screen, he knocked down enough doors that Universal decided to make the reboot.  And it got a new champion in Ronald D. Moore.

So if Jerry goes around Hollywood and shops Sliders enough, anything can happen.  But that's where it has to start.  Petitions might work, but the one I found has 70 signatures.  I signed it, but 70 isn't going to get anything moving.  Kickstarter could work, but you have to have people attached for people to be willing to pay money for it.  For these things, you still need a champion.

Now it's true that Jerry might not be the best champion for Sliders.  If a Carlton Cuse or a JJ Abrams or Vince Gilligan or Chris Carter or Shawn Ryan or any number of TV producers wanted to get a Sliders reboot off the ground, they probably could.  But usually, those things take something smaller to get them off the ground.  Richard Hatch had to pitch BSG so many times before Moore found out they were doing it and thought, "Yeah, I could do something cool there."

And maybe Jerry has to go into a room and say "here's my idea.  I'm Arturo with a bunch of great young actors."  And he has this glossy cool-looking promo art, but the Universal exec brushes him off.  But then the next meeting is Cuse for Colony Season 2, and he sees the promo art sticking out of a folder on the exec's desk.  "You're doing SLIDERS?  That's awesome, I loved that show!"  "Well, not really.  But is that something you'd like to work on?" "Absolutely!"

And that's how you get Sliders: TNG.

I really like what Slider_Quinn has been saying. At the end of the day, Sliders needs a a champion - Jerry is the only guy who appears willing to push for it, even if as Ib correctly states, he doesn't have a lot of pull to get a project made in hollywood. But I don't think he wants to step on the creator's toes, so he is sort of taking a backseat to actually getting involved with it as a pitch (except only to fans). What he is willing to do is to nudge fans a little about his interest, and hope they can help nudge other folks, to try to get the ball rolling.

I was the one who reached out to the ComicCon folks about a panel - a Sliders reunion panel as Grizzlor put it.  I got in touch, heard back, gave them my pitch and am hoping they follow up with interest. I think it's our best chance at getting the ball rolling, the same way that frankly I am not sure X Files would have ever returned if there wasn't a podcast about it from a semi-famous actor and Gillian didn't go on nerdist. These things are incredibly stupid in terms of how they work but it basically took that for a renuion to happen.

I hope if you got all 3 or 4 or even 5 or 6 principles in the same place, same room for the first time, they could talk again, and not only that, feel the love from fans, making them use that positivity energy to give somethign of an effort. I honestly believe Tracy may have put out some feelers originally to industry peers and didn't get a great response about the prospects. That said, we are not trying to make 1 + 2 = 4 here. Getting Sliders back is not that impossible. It is just very hard. And that's why you need someone pitching hard, like the Battle Star Galectica guy.  Unfortunately, there's no 30-something year old exec who grew up in sliders now in hollywood willing to stick there neck out for this franchise.  We have Jerry, Tracy, us, and maybe if we are lucky a fan or not a fan in Kelsey Grammer, and who even knows what he thinks if he liked it originally.

It is possible for something to happen, however, with the right energy behind the effort from these principals, us doing what we can do, and creativity. Cleverness and creativity is what will allow the pitch and market strategy to be framed in a manner in which executives will be convinced "you;re right" and take some professional risk here.

Hopefully, they would be open to the possibility of younger cast members as well, if that's what it took. I'd say if they get a pilot that reunites the characters, makes the continuity of season 3 and beyond not affect our sliders, and then introduces a new generation of sliders, great.

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How about the kid who played Quinn in the guardian as the new "young" Quinn character?

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTgwNzQwMzcxMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTU1MzIzMQ@@._V1__SX1303_SY591_.jpg

I love Temporal/ireactions idea. The beautiful part about that is you can always link them up with the foursome from the original series... they're just doubles from another world.

And, if you went with a next generation cast, you could always have our original sliders make appearances and/or be regularly involved.  The premise of the show makes the franchise extremely flexible for revival or reboot, and helps deal with the aging factor better.

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Jerry is asked about whether Quinn ever got home, comments on reboot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2IdEHw … &t=158

It's obvious he wants this franchise to bring back, and I think he's hoping a groundswell of support from fans can help encourage it.

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Great find! Thanks for posting.

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Signed!

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RewatchPodcast wrote:

IT'S HERE! We are into our Lois & Clark Rewatch!!! In episode zero we discuss our history with the show then you can head right on over to episode 1 where we discuss the feature length pilot.

FYI- we just can't get rid of ireactions, I should probably just announce him as our official researcher. And he's a damn good one at that.

Ep zero- http://rewatchpodcast.podomatic.com/ent … 5_00-07_00
Ep 1- http://rewatchpodcast.podomatic.com/ent … 6_18-07_00


Cool! Looking forward to hearing the new podcast.

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I don't think we're dealing with any new developments here.

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The rights holder would license the name / characters but that wouldn't be expensive and an easy obstacle.  The harder part is convincing a network to order a pilot which would be a commitment of at least a mill and probably more.  That's the more difficult part. Because its money but they also have to believe a modern day version of the series could work... Particularly with whomever is on the production side and who the talent is that's attached.

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"The Hoop Life", which was on showtime hasn't been ever made available commercially.