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The tail-end of SUPERGIRL's third season is *weird*. There is no sense of what the Season 3 plots are really about beyond Kara wandering around fighting three supervillains; there is no clarity as to what the new characters of Season 3 represent beyond their immediate plot purposes.

Season 1's Kryptonian invasion arc was about Kara trying to reconcile her anxiety and need to be more assertive: assertiveness sometimes comes out as destructive anger or the inability to work with others and Kara has to find the right balance.

Season 2 was about how women support other women (and sometimes men) and sometimes fail to: Queen Rhea supports no one and nothing but guises her selfishness in the language of female empowerment; Lena supports everyone and everything but has trouble trusting and being trusted; Supergirl thinks supporting people is to assume they're just like her and has to learn to accept and embrace difference.

Season 3 started out with the theme of Kara starting to lose touch with her humanity, taking on the inhuman Worldkillers who have no humanity -- and then it just degenerates into superhero plot points without having much to say about what it means to be human.

The reason for this is pretty obvious: showrunner and unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg was well-deservedly fired from SUPERGIRL for unrepentant sexual harassment of his writers. He was off the show by Episode 3.12 and the remaining episodes of Season 3 come off as a novel where the original author died after writing half of it and the second half was written by someone else who had no idea where the story was supposed to go.

Unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg introduced Samantha Arias and her daughter Ruby. Sam is a childhood friend of Lena's; Sam is a single mother; Sam is L-Corp's new financial officer; Sam is unknowingly a genetically engineered Kryptonian Worldkiller sent to 'purify' the planet Earth. Unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg also brought Mon-El back but this is a Mon-El who's lived seven years since Season 2 and is now married to Imra, the telekinetic superhero Saturn Girl from the 31st century. Unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg set up some mysteries: what is the Worldkiller's purpose on Earth? What are Mon-El and Imra's reasons for coming back to 21st century Earth?

Unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg got fired before he could bring these plots to a conclusion. The answers provided by his successors suggest that they didn't know what unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg had planned. Some have speculated that unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg had left outlines that his successors refused to use in order to avoid paying him any further story or teleplay fees, but the awkwardness in resolving the Season 3 story elements suggests that their ex-boss was too busy harassing them to provide them with his plans.

Sam Arias unknowingly transforms into Reign, a Kryptonian Worldkiller whose powers are... the same as Supergirl's except Reign beats Supergirl to a pulp and is presented as stronger. All well and good -- but what exactly is the purpose of the Worldkiller? It's said that the Worldkiller is to "purify" the Earth for Kryptonians by brutally murdering criminals -- but what's the endgame after Reign has presumably killed all criminals?

Other Worldkillers include Purity and Blight who seem to be more interested in clearing all humans off Earth through physical violence -- but why? Surviving Kryptonians in Season 1 lost interest in Earth. Later in Season 3, Kryptonians are shown to be perfectly capable of creating new settlements like Argo City. And even if Kryptonians wanted to extinguish all human life, they could use Myriad's Q-waves to shut down all human brains.

By comparison, three super-superpowered Kryptonians punching humans to death one by one is highly inefficient.

It's unclear what these Worldkillers are meant to accomplish. The Season 3 writers seem to have no idea what the Worldkillers were supposed to be and Mon-El and Imra's secret mission to stop the Worldkillers' plan of something or other is just baffling.

The Sam Arias character is also awkward. Unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg was strangely sloppy in introducing this new character in Season 3. Sam is described as a childhood friend of Lena's in the same episode where Lena says that she's never had any friends. Sam is an accountant and defined by constantly walking into rooms describing how she just accomplished some vague financial goal for Lena at L-Corp. Sam is suddenly in Kara Danvers' circle at the weekly game night and Kara is talking to Sam like they've been friends for years when, to the audience, Sam is a stranger.

It's hard to get a read on Sam's character because Sam's role on the show is to spout vague business terms and be present in mother-daughter scenes with 12 year old Ruby. Is Sam cunning like Oliver? A people person like Iris? Relentlessly practical like Diggle? A problem solver like Mary? An agent of chaos like Kate Kane? No idea, the show never presents Sam as anything beyond a mother.

Unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg doesn't know how to define Sam and doesn't know why Lena and Sam are friends. I can't tell if Sam is cunning or clever or full of empathy or who this character is beyond being a loving mother.

It's almost as though unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg simply had an infatuation with actress Odette Annable and wrote a role for her; Sam's human persona is almost irrelevant beyond being Ruby's mother. Sam is simply the human face of Reign like Davis Bloom was for Doomsday in SMALLVILLE -- except Davis Bloom had characterization: he was a paramedic (and so relevant to superhero combat situations); he was assertive and compassionate but with a dark anger.

In contrast, it's hard to pin down anything about Sam and the character only functions because Odette Annable can infuse her own humanity and warmth into the role. Sam is a pleasure to watch because Annable is great, but Sam is a non-entity.

After unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg was fired, the post-Kreisberg writers elected to focus on the Reign persona and mostly kept Sam locked in a hospital bed or dreamscape until Supergirl could save her. Then Sam and Ruby were written out of the show.

Ruby Arias is also written pretty vaguely but adequately. She's an insecure but kind 12 year old girl and she and Alex Danvers form a bond as Alex babysits and protects her from Reign. Alex seeing Sam and Ruby together makes Alex realize she wants to have her own children.

What were unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg's intentions for Sam and Ruby? It was reported that Odette Annable was signed for one season, but Ruby's actress, Emma Tremblay, was signed for two years. It seems Kreisberg meant to kill off Reign and Sam and have Alex adopt Ruby. The writers seemed to find this too brutal and instead spared Sam, eliminated Reign, and sent Sam and Ruby off to happy endings.

Towards the end of Season 3, the writers clearly realize they can't wrap their heads around the Worldkillers, Sam, Reign, or Ruby. At the same time, they have to keep spinning their wheels with these elements until the Season 3 finale.

As a result, the writers decide to focus on something they can appreciate: they focus on the Kara and Lena friendship. They have Lena and Supergirl at odds over Lena having Kryptonite and other anti-Kryptonian armaments that Lena uses to fight the Worldkillers. The shift in focus to Lena and Supergirl at odds while Kara remains Lena's best friend is amusing, bizarre, funny and painful.

It's utterly detached from the Worldkillers; the Worldkillers are defined by a rejection of all emotion and compassion and relationship, in some ways reflecting Kara's emotional distance at the start of Season 3. The Lena/Supergirl/Kara conflict, however, isn't about emotional distance but emotional entanglement where Kara, Supergirl and Lena find themselves at times unknowingly battling different sides of their best friends.

The Kara/Lena focus works very well. There's a hurtful moment when Supergirl tells Lena that she's sorry for getting upset with Lena over Lena's anti-Kryptonian weapons and hopes they can still be friends; Lena disbelievingly snaps that they've never been friends and has no idea why Supergirl thinks they've ever done anything but work together.

It's a hilarious inversion of the SUPERMAN movies where Superman always makes a point of not recognizing the name "Clark" whereas Supergirl constantly forgets that people who are close to Kara may consider Supergirl a stranger.

The post-Kreisberg writers seem to have no idea what the hell unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg was doing with Season 3; the post-Kreisberg writers are awkwardly trying to turn SUPERGIRL: THE WORLDKILLER WAR into SUPERGIRL: KARA AND LENA.

The post-Kreisberg writers feel better equipped to write KARA AND LENA. They're excited about KARA AND LENA. They're passionate about KARA AND LENA. And they're just grudgingly working through the last episodes of THE WORLDKILLER WAR until they make it all Kara and Lena all the time in Season 4.

It works out beautifully in Season 4 -5, but Season 3 is truly awkward in changing course.

This is very interesting. I wonder if you might come up with something to improve the Universal DVDs when you get them and then I'll follow your script for Episodes 1.02 - 1.09 and run another upscale on the files through Topaz AI.

I will say, while it's a crime against culture that "Eggheads" is blurry and "The Breeder" is crisp on DVD, at least the Pilot on Universal DVD looks good. RussianCabbie and I have wondered if the Pilot and only the Pilot were edited on film -- or at least very high resolution analog videotape.

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THE FLASH 9.03, "Rogues of War", has an interesting, endearing story about the Flash trying to get (semi) reformed criminals to help him outheist some thieves trying to steal parts to build a time machine. It's engaging and fun and enjoyable... but wouldn't we rather have had Barry spring the Legends from time jail to run this job for him? Also, I couldn't remember who the Carver character was which may be my fault and not the show's.

I'm really enjoying how Iris remains in charge of Team Flash; meanwhile, Barry recruits a group of criminals and can't get any of them to follow his leadership. Jaco, the least malevolent of the bunch, is crushed when Barry confesses that he doesn't trust him. Barry can't even keep Pied Piper in line and Pied Piper is supposedly on Barry's team. That was hilarious. Barry is good at lots of things, but he doesn't have the natural authority of Oliver Queen or even Kara Danvers.

Former barista Jaco realizing that Barry is the Flash because they have the same coffee order is hilarious. Barry's embarrassment at his secret identity screwup is hilarious.

I am really confused about a bunch of things. Khione has joined the team to do interior decorating, having no scientific, strategic or combat skills; why is she there beyond giving Danielle Panabaker her contractually required screentime? Why is no one mourning Dr. Caitlin Snow? Barry's friend and personal physician is DEAD. Was there a funeral? Did anyone tell her mother? Why did Eric Wallace remove Caitlin and all of Caitlin's relationships from the series and replace Caitlin with a blank slate of nothing?

Why did Allegra engage in flirting with Chester for Season 8 only to avoid him after kissing him? Why does Chester keep trying to talk to someone who kissed him and for whatever reason regrets it? Chester is a bottomless well of fun, cleverness and easygoing charm; surely he doesn't have to stick within Team Flash for dating prospects.

The ending was... I guess, interesting. It's good to see a certain someone back even if she doesn't seem to be herself.

Limits spur creativity, I'll never disagree. I would theorize that retro games of 2D are easier to create on a low budget and a short schedule and there's a market for low budget nostalgia. But it wouldn't be cheap or quick to make a 2023 TV show in SLIDERS' 1994 style, it would cost more to recreate the shot-on-film/edited on video look; it would take more time to script dialogue-driven storytelling over visual information. Who would want to put in more work to achieve less?

No present day screenwriter, director, producer or network would say, "We need this reboot of a 1995 property to mimic how it looked when it was first filmed in 1994, it needs to be framed for 4:3 televisions (even though everyone will watch it on 16:9); it needs to be scripted as though people are watching it on diode-distorted standard definition CRT televisions (even though no one will); it needs to have performances that are expository instead of naturalistic (even though it's distracting and unnecessary in 2023)."

Saying a 2023 show needs to use 1994 style 4:3 framing and scripting are such arbitrary limitations. Why would anyone working in television today try to frame shots for 4:3 screens that aren't even being manufactured or sold except in used stores? Why would a creator decide that even though they have a widescreen 16:9, they'll only use the center 4:3? Why would a screenwriter decide that they won't rely on visual storytelling in a visual medium? Why would someone making a TV show in 2023 try to make it look primitive and backward instead of current and innovative? And why would someone put all that extra work into not using all the benefits of modern widescreen high definition cameras and displays?

SAVED BY THE BELL did it for new sequences that were flashbacks to the 90s era and it made sense visually, so I can see that effort being put in for brief bursts of nostalgia. But for a whole show? No one will do that. No one will spend the extra money to do that outside of specific sequences meant to call back to a past era.

Awhile ago, some X-FILES fans were complaining that the Season 10 - 11 episodes had too many references to current events and complained that it would date the show.

To me, that isn't a valid criticism: TV is always a product of the era in which it's made and it's unreasonable to demand that TV be totally timeless and reflect the present day years or decades after its original airing. TV is watched in binges or weekly, but the appeal of TV is that its extended span of episodes allows characters and situations to progress with us. The appeal of bringing back QUANTUM LEAP, MACGYVER, GILMORE GIRLS, THE X-FILES, PARTY DOWN, WILL AND GRACE, FULL HOUSE, PUNKY BREWSTER and others is that we get to catch up those shows and concepts in the present of today, not in the past of when they were first broadcast.

This complaint has manifested with more validity with STAR TREK. Fans complained, not unreasonably: the 23rd century of DISCOVERY in 2017 didn't look like the 23rd century of STAR TREK in 1966. The 1966 show had established that the 23rd century was shot in 4:3 with 60s pop art colours of bright yellow, red and blue, that technology looked like wood and cardboard, not 3D printed plastic and metal. The creators protested that they could not be expected to use 1960s technology, some of which didn't even exist anymore, to create a 2017 show. Fans pointed out that the creators were the one choosing to set their show in the 23rd century.

DISCOVERY ultimately took itself out of the 23rd century, but not before setting up the 23rd century companion show STRANGE NEW WORLDS in which we see the Enterprise. The new version of the Enterprise is clearly a 21st century rendition of the 1960s ship -- but it still maintains certain visual identifiers: the orange highlights remain even though the ship interiors are steel and glass. The bridge has the seats in relatively the same places, but it's been arranged for a widescreen 16:9 layout rather than 4:3. The ship exterior has a different texture and altered proportions, but the saucer and nacelles are still familiar and the nacelles remain a familiar but not identical red.

A hypothetical SLIDERS reboot can certainly do some of that. The visual iconography of SLIDERS can be maintained: we could see Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo (recast) backlit at night, their four silhouettes running towards the camera. We could still keep the original Motorola timer (it's supposed to be a homemade device made from discarded parts). We could keep Quinn in flannel and jeans, Wade in her sweaters and leggings, Rembrandt in his reflective suits (as a dated showbiz icon) and the Professor in his three-piece finery. We could keep the sound effect of the vortex and even keep the vortex itself.

But the Season 1 - 2 tunnel would likely look more like the Season 3 tunnel, a layer of energy effects rather than the flat animation of the first 22 episodes. A new SLIDERS would use expository montages, onscreen text, quick cuts of news footage, rapid-fire talking heads, CG effects to graft San Francisco location footage onto Vancouver-shot scenes, CG set extensions to add scale and extras -- and it would be high definition, paced to a modern TV speed and filmed for 16:9 TVs. A 2023 show is going to look like it was shot in 2023. Even a period piece made right now is going to reflect the 2023 technology that made it. That's simply the nature of television.

While I love SLIDERS and am obsessed with upscaling it, SLIDERS is a product of a bygone era. It was written and filmed when TV was a visual format that was paradoxically driven by dialogue.

TV started as pre-recorded stage theatre. Stage theatre is driven by dialogue because audiences can't necessarily see facial expression or minute physical action. You couldn't necessarily see facial expression or minute physical action too well on cathode ray tube TVs, either.

TV, even in the 90s, was still stepping away from stagework on a screen to becoming a dynamic visual experience with stories told by moving images rather than being a radioplay with pictures. SLIDERS was closer to the end of this transition than, say, KUNG FU: THE LEGEND CONTINUES, but SLIDERS clearly prioritizes dialogue over visual storytelling without always achieving a synthesis of both.

Compare the SLIDERS pilot to, say, the pilot episode of THE FLASH, and you'll see how television has sped up significantly and employs visual information far more than a 1994 pilot movie. We don't see Barry Allen describing his forensics job; we see him doing it in a short scene with visual details that are crisp and clear on a 16:9 HDTV but would be difficult to make out on a 20 inch CRT of the 90s.

A lot of SLIDERS is written and filmed with the expectation that CRT SD broadcast means viewers can't see everything clearly. SLIDERS in 1994 uses a slow pan across all the set dressings in Quinn's room; it's slow because video editing was slow in 1994 and because it was made for SD broadcast. Any faster and you couldn't read the posters and book titles and see the dinosaurs in the haze of diodes.

From a scripting standpoint: SLIDERS introduces Quinn's job, boss, and has him pass by a TV commercial for a lawyer and a homeless man. This is to establish Hurley, Ross J. Kelley, and Kenny; this way, we have a contrast with the doubles of Hurley, Kelley and Kenny on the Soviet Earth. SLIDERS also has Quinn go on a solo-slide and meet a Quinn-double. This is all expository and gently paced for an audience that has yet to fully embrace small screen visual storytelling.

A 2023 SLIDERS done with the speed of THE FLASH likely has characters like Hurley, Kelley and Kenny made into classmates or faculty at Quinn's school and Wade is likely in Quinn's class to avoid needing one introductory scene per character. There is likely no solo-slide for Quinn; instead, his first slide is with the other three sliders. Quinn wouldn't rattle off the titles of Arturo's papers out loud; we'd see him reading them in a montage with flashes of text and authorship.

The 1994 pilot is slow because the era was slow. 1994 TV production was a slow process on a fast schedule. After shooting on film, film had to be copied to videotape and then copied again from videotape source to videotape recorder with effects done in a separate suite. Overly complex edits were too time consuming to produce on videotape. Film meant only so many shots and takes could be recorded.

Dialogue and gentle pacing were achievable on TV. Teleplays of the era used dialogue over imagery because dialogue was reliable. Visual storytelling could be shaky or not capture the scripted intent due to having only so much film for the day.

Andy Tennant directed the SLIDERS pilot in 1994. Since then, his style has leapt forward. Compare his work on the 2005 romcom HITCH and his 2018 - 2021 episodes of THE KOMINSKY METHOD, and you can see that Tennant in 2021 is clearly not Tennant in 2005 or 1994. Digital cameras mean faster setups; digital editing means more intricate presentation.

Hire Tennant to direct a new SLIDERS pilot and he would use montages, visual information and rapid-fire cuts to get through exposition and introductions. He would, of course, slow down to 1994 speed for scenes of emotional intimacy and gravity. In the 90s, there wasn't much choice in speed.

The 1994 Pilot performances are also done with SD broadcast on small TVs in mind. One of the most common criticisms from a post-2000s viewer of SLIDERS: Sabrina Lloyd's line deliveries and acting are criticized as being stilted and some of SLIDERS' biggest fans call Lloyd the worst actress of the original quartet. This is because stylistic markers in acting have shifted since the 90s.

SLIDERS was made at a time when dialogue-driven storytelling and limited takes necessitated actors hyperemphasizing the information in their lines. It was important to hear dialogue clearly as visuals could be small, hazy or both. Today, the priority is delivering dialogue as though the words have just come to mind for the actor/character.

Within the 90s style, Jerry O'Connell's performances have a few instances of stilted delivery for expository purposes ("Just a little light reading"), Cleavant Derricks could disguise it with his lyrical voice and John Rhys-Davies would hide it with bombast.

Sabrina, however, has a very sharp tone to her voice when speaking at a higher-than-natural volume. Unnatural overenunciation is hard for her to mask. 90s-style expository performance doesn't suit Sabrina whose naturalism was a little ahead of the era.

As a result, there are a lot of lines in Season 1 where Sabrina's delivery sounds forced because the emphasis is on enunciation rather than conversation. Season 2 shows marked improvement in Wade being scripted and Sabrina being directed to be more conversational; Season 3 is very hit and miss for her. Sabrina would not play Wade with 90s-style expository-performance today; she would aim for the illusion of being unscripted. Tell Sabrina to characterize Wade like she did in 1994 with a 1994 script and she would tell you where to shove it.

Even a 90s-era, dialogue-driven filmmaker like Kevin Smith uses modern visual storytelling and editing techniques in his recent films. JAY AND SILENT BOB REBOOT and CLERKS III are very 90s-style dialogue driven, but there are still individual sequences that use quick cuts, montages, onscreen text, anamorphic lenses, HD-dependent visual details and short shot lengths -- techniques that Smith couldn't use in the 90s because he was using comparatively primitive film editing and only had so much money to buy film.

The SAVED BY THE BELL revival proved that it's possible to recreate a 90s-look and scripting style, to mimic the lighting, the expository dialogue, the 4:3 framing, to degrade the image to look SD -- but SAVED BY THE BELL did it for flashback sequences, not the entire revival. No one would ever agree to do it for an entire production.

Yes, limits spur creativity. 1994 was a time when TV creators had to work a lot harder to get characterization and plot information to the viewer. But I can't see a 2023 production crippling itself to mimic a style of scripting, dialogue, performance, filming, cinematography and editing based in 1994 - 1999 limitations.

Writing and filming in 2023 already has its own challenges: pandemic protocols, location access, stitching together distanced extras, production pods, relighting digital video in post, union regulations for intimacy, matching digital stunts to practical effects, malfunctioning drones. What producer wants to add 1994 limitations on top of that?

What would be the point of producing a 4:3 product for a world of 16:9 televisions? Who in 2023 would write and direct like it's 1994? Even THE X-FILES in 2002 didn't look like its 1994 episodes.

Fairly or unfairly, SLIDERS is a TV show that was first made in 1994 and uses a 1994 style of writing and filming within 1994 - 1999 limitations that no creator or actor or zero-budget film student would tolerate today. No studio or broadcaster is going to ask that a 2023 show look like or be written as a 1994 show nor would anyone be willing to make it that way.

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But the most important thing to me is those 90s TV show production values. The storyboard, the writing, pacing & continuity, the grammar (the way people talk back then is very different to how people talk today) and the soundtrack - those Sliders theme songs which play in the end credits are superb imo.   It should also be shot in "4:3 safe" mode - a full 16:9 frame but all the subject matter is kept within the middle 4:3 zone.

This might happen for flashbacks or isolated sequences. SAVED BY THE BELL's revival had some comedy flashbacks to old episodes where everything was filmed in 4:3 with a filter over the image to mimic a fuzzy analog videotape.

But it's unlikely that any 2023+ production is going to mimic the limitations and dialogue and cinematography and lighting of a 1994 show for the entirety of running length. Why would any TV show spend more money to look cheap and dated beyond individual scenes?

If you were to do this story, you would probably have to premiere the 2023 show with the new sliders and put your revelation about the original sliders at the end of the first season to make it an entry-level story.

Maybe the sliders are four homeless people who choose to squat in the soon-to-be demolished Mallory house, they find Quinn's abandoned sliding machine and uncover Quinn's first-first timer (a MicroTAC 9800x rather than the UltraLITE model, presumably a prototype of the original timer that Quinn powered with double-As instead of the regenerative power chip). The new sliders trigger the timer by accident and are lost in the multiverse.

Throughout the new pilot and subsequent episodes, the new sliders encounter Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt, Arturo, Maggie, Colin, Diana and Mallory who appear as recurring doubles: Quinn is a tech support worker at a computer store, Wade is a journalist, Rembrandt is a music teacher, the Professor is the Professor, Maggie is a cop, Colin is an airplane mechanic, Diana is a doctor, Mallory is a thief.

Then in the season finale, the new sliders realize that these guest-stars they've met along the way were split across multiple realities as fragments, and the new sliders have to recombine these fragments in order to get Quinn's help to fix their broken timer.

I think I'll probably watch QUANTUM LEAP 2.0 when Rewatch Podcast starts reviewing it or after I finish my rewatch of SUPERGIRL and the last season of MACGYVER 2.0, whichever comes first.

Doesn't Temporal Flux's comment about Sam losing himself bring to mind all those QL episodes Tom and Cory mentioned where Sam keeps falling in love with various women in romances that seem unwarranted? What if that's the effect of Sam becoming the subject whose body he's occupying?

Also, I just re-read my theory and I have no idea what I was saying, so if Tom brings it up on his podcast with Cory, he can hopefully explain it to me.

PARTY DOWN is a cancelled two season show that's a bit like that reboot of SLIDERS that I pitched where Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo are running a mini hamburger restaurant called Sliders. PARTY DOWN is about a gang of misfits who are alternatively depressives or delusionals or some combination of both; they are caterers and wait staff for parties. Every episode features their hijinks and disasters at a different party whether it's a birthday, a corporate function, an orgy, a funeral, a wedding, or a mafia meeting.

PARTY DOWN features Adam Scott as Henry, a deeply depressed bartender/waiter/ex-actor whose miserable neuroticism is oddly reminiscent of Tracy Torme's original conception of Quinn Mallory before Jerry O'Connell was cast. There's also Ryan Hansen, an airheaded male model/actor whose dim-witted good-naturedness and strangely compelling talent is oddly reminiscent of Jerry O'Connell in his early 20s. Also present is Lizzy Caplan as Casey, a sardonic stand-up comedian with a certain wonky energy that's oddly reminiscent of Sabrina Lloyd but with a more cynical bent.

Rounding out the waiters is Jane Lynch as Constance, a bit-part actor who thinks she was more successful than she actually was with a certain hapless confidence that's oddly reminiscent of Cleavant Derricks. And then there's Ken Marino as Ron, the groundlessly arrogant 'team leader' who is vastly overconfident in his leadership and oddly reminiscent of John Rhys-Davies.

The show is noteworthy for how it is bitterly devoid of optimism. None of these would-be actors ever get a worthwhile role and even if they do, their scenes are cut from the movies. None of their business plans to escape their minimum wage drudgery go anywhere. None of their romantic pursuits are in any way a meeting of the minds and in fact just add a numbing effect to their mindless jobs as caterers and waiters. None of the supposed professional opportunities they find from 'networking' as caterers and waiters lead anywhere.

I'm not sure who even watched this show; there was a 20 episode order across 2009 - 2010 on STARZ and the show reportedly had an audience of around 100,000 viewers. STARZ rightly cancelled it in a vaguely optimistic 20th and final episode and that was clearly the end of that.

For reasons I cannot explain, PARTY DOWN had its Season 3 premiere this past week, 13 years after the Season 2 finale back in 2010. Everyone except Lizzy Caplan as Casey has returned for a new run of six episodes. (She had scheduling issues.) The show has had to come up with a reason for why everyone except Casey is still cater-waitering after 13 years. I'm excited to watch it.

Nobody watched this show. It was cancelled. It was over. Now it's back. Could this happen with SLIDERS?

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Is that Universal or Mill Creek?  Sounds like the saturation may be higher for those later episodes (hard to tell with Mill Creek since it all looks like crap).

Regarding the field misalignment issue, it is possible to smooth it out a little by applying a kind of deflicker filter which works by blending each pixel with the pixel above/below.  Here is what it looks like, not sure if you guys would like it

I'm not sure if it's the lesser of 2 evils as it does smudge a lot of resolution out of the image.

I was using Universal NTSC discs.

Do you find that Handbrake detelecine is as smudge-producing as your method? Or worse? I assume it's not better since you don't use it.

pneumatic wrote:
RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

Why not then try to add a sharpen thereafter?

Yep, have tried that & found it only gets you so far.  I then tried doing a stronger initial blur to make it seem like all pixels are blurred by the same amount, and then adding very strong amount of sharpening afterwards but the effect was not visually pleasing.  Also tried just throwing away every second field and starting with 720x240 then neural network upscaling the result to various factors like 2x, 4x and then scaling back down to 480p.   Actually the screenshots you are looking at are blended with neural network interpolations but it still looks rough.  I'll keep trying...

If you can do better cleanup work on the DVD files, I'd be curious about running your results through Topaz AI.

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An interesting proposition. If only there were some way to present this story in a teleplay that could have plausibly been scripted, performed and filmed in a 46 minute episode of television to be produced and aired as a sixth season premiere.

Brad, we have had our differences before, but I must say, I am deeply ashamed of you right now. How could you not offer Tom a theory? Shameful, just shameful! ;-)

Tom, I haven't seen QUANTUM LEAP, but I will venture a theory that the Waiting Room is the friends we made along the way.

Damn it. Okay, here's another theory: what if in this new generation of QL technology, the Waiting Room is instead a state of quantum limbo in which the subject is suspended in a moment of temporal grace, neither dead nor alive, existent nor gone -- until Dr. Ben has completed his mission at which point the personal timeline of the subject is reinstated to resynchronize with the chronological stream of historical constituents?

In addition, what if Dr. Ben's state of existence is in a semi-permanent state of temporal grace created by Ben having detached from his own personal timeline, holding Ben's body in indeterminate nucleostasis as the result of the particle confinement that resulted in his missing memories? What if the restoration of Ben's physical form is dependent upon his balancing the equation represented by his unknown mission that led to his first and subsequent leaps?

Soooo, in my recent upscale of SLIDERS 1.02 - 1.09, I became overly enthusiastic about upping the saturation levels for the episodes. And now... my upscales of 1.04 - 1.09 are entirely too saturated; the skin tones all look radioactively pink. It is ghastly and I have to redo them all.

In addition to giving myself extra work, I have also made pneumatic's point about reckless colour changes.

Will someone PLEASE help Tom out here? After all he's done for SLIDERS!

(I haven't seen the new QL yet.)

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Every season of SUPERGIRL seems to do something new that no subsequent season could maintain. Season 3 is really the only season to change Supergirl from being superhumanly nice to a more complicated character. Supergirl in Season 3 is deeply depressed.

The loss of Mon-El and the grief of sending him away has left Supergirl traumatized like Barry Allen. The guilt is making her distant and aloof from her friends like Oliver Queen. Season 3 is where Supergirl's character starts to become dimensionalized beyond niceness; we see that she withdraws, that she wants to subsume herself in an alternate identity, that she's lost joy in helping people or being Kara Danvers at Catco, that she's unable to handle a 9 - 5 job effectively and becoming difficult to work with for the DEO; she stops even wanting to be Kara Danvers.

It lasts two episodes and then Kara starts to recover, regaining most of the Melissa Benoist charm but with occasional moments of depression and sadness. Then Mon-El returns, but what was seven months for Kara has been seven years for Mon-El and he's gotten married and moved on while Kara hasn't. In a twisted way, helps Kara recover fully. She knows that Mon-El is alive and well but their relationship is over. Also, Mon-El has become a serious-minded, heavy-hearted hero without the mischief and hedonism that made him a good match for Kara's goofiness and Supergirl's heroism. He's effectively a different character played by the same actor.

The upshot of this: Kara as a more downbeat and sad character just didn't work for SUPERGIRL and they let it ride for two episodes and then started shifting back. The reason I think it's for the best: Melissa Benoist, as an actor, isn't like Grant Gustin when playing tragedy. Grant Gustin's sense of tragedy is haunting torment that he has Barry run to escape, it's very dynamic and troubled. And Melissa Benoist, as an actor, also isn't like Stephen Amell who conveys howling rage in a state of upset. Benoist can do anger, but she doesn't really do seething anger for every second of every minute; instead, her anger comes out in massive bursts and then she's spent.

Melissa Benoist playing Supergirl with a Barry/Oliver sized grief and trauma isn't empathetic like Gustin or riveting like Amell; it's simply depression. And Benoist's depression for Supergirl is in fact really distancing. It's hard to connect with Kara or Supergirl when Benoist plays this version of the character because Benoist's body language and expressiveness become completely flattened out, giving no real information to the viewer. For Benoist, depression isn't about increasing the sadness or the anger; it's instead an absence. This doesn't play to Benoist's strengths as an actor who's all about the physicality whether it's pushing a spaceship or bounding through Catco.

This seems to lead into Season 4 where the writers seemed to realize that Kara Danvers doesn't really need to be too heavily written or characterized. The writers decide to just let the character be heroic as Supergirl and a bit silly as Kara and very passionate about helping people in both personas and have crazy things happen around her.

The writers stop trying to give Kara an arc of feeling downbeat and working to triumph or self-discovery or overcoming a personal weakness. This version of Kara doesn't actually need that because this Kara has Melissa Benoist's screen presence and charisma and ability to generate empathy from the viewer. Melissa Benoist will handle the characterization after Season 3 and the writers leave it in her hands.

Found this on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134142131107

You'll unfortunately have to contact the seller about shipping to Australia.

Or you may have to buy a complete series set to get the NTSC Season 5:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334605147691
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185178813590

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I don't believe Jerry was ever offered the role of Peter Parker/Spider-Man.

He certainly wanted it, as he stated during a commercial break during a talk show (Conan O'Brien? Can't remember). He seemed strangely (and delusionally) certain of getting it. He may have even had a meeting or a screen test and his agent was certainly pursuing it.

Jerry would never have gotten the role and wasn't offered the job; Sam Raimi had a very clear image of what he wanted his Peter Parker to be and if you look at Tobey Maguire and Jerry O'Connell, you can see how Jerry doesn't fit Sam Raimi's vision at all.

Jerry did indeed audition for the role of John Jameson (Mary Jane's fiance) in SPIDER-MAN II and did not get it. I'd like to say he blew it, but as someone with a lot of actress friends, I know that actors can audition wonderfully and still get passed over because they had the wrong eye colour or reminded the casting director of a hated roommate or whatever.

Tangent: if you read Tracy Torme's original SLIDERS pilot script, the character of Quinn is clearly not Jerry O'Connell at all; it's more a Tobey Maguire type if not necessarily Maguire himself. (Also, Professor Arturo is clearly Raul Julia.)

It's interesting that Jerry turned his back on Quinn Mallory but then thought he would be hired to play another science hero, Peter Parker.

But if Jerry had been hired for Sam Raimi's film, Jerry would have just put in another SLIDERS in Season 4 performance. It's just who he was at the time, sadly. The heartfelt sincerity of Season 1 - 2 Quinn was gone. After 2005, Jerry regained his gifts and has been pitching his roles as a more hypercaffeinated goofball, a bit like Andrew Garfield's version.

Jerry still has the capacity to play the thoughtful intellectual. One of the most interesting non-performances I ever heard with him: he was on Macaulay Culkin's podcast and he was talking about the technical craft of acting and discussing whether or not his daughters had those skills. He was discussing a 'science' of sorts, and that told me that Quinn Mallory is still inside him.

That said, I have never really thought of Jerry O'Connell as Quinn Mallory. I have always thought of Jerry as the skin that Quinn Mallory wears.

One character I really wanted Jerry to play back in his SLIDERS-days was the character of Nightwing, an adult Dick Grayson who had graduated from being Batman's Robin to becoming an independent hero. Dick's long hair and pleasant features have long resembled Jerry. In 2007, Jerry even voiced Nightwing in THE BATMAN animated cartoon. You can hear him in this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4AZHyoPn34

Around Season 3 of SLIDERS, I no longer wanted Jerry to play this character. Slider_Quinn21 once remarked that Nightwing should be Jared Padelecki and Jared Padelecki has indeed cornered the market on what was Jerry O'Connell's niche in the 90s: the sensitive, thoughtful male hero. 

Brenton Thwaites on TITANS certainly has the look of Nightwing, but Thwaites and the writing have made Dick a depressive, miserable person whereas the Nightwing of the comics is more like MacGyver (whether Richard Dean Anderson or Lucas Till), a relentlessly positive soul, an irrepressible hero with interesting hair.

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Watching SUPERGIRL, Season 3, Episode 6: "Midvale" where teenaged Kara and Alex are trying to break into the laptop of a murder victim. They seek assistance from a friend of Clark's who's really good with technology, a friend named Chloe Sullivan.

God damn it. What a pretty pass we have come to when the mere mention of Chloe Sullivan makes me cringe. Really great character we used to have here. Now it's all ruined. Thanks a lot, Allison Mack.

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I haven't gotten any fogging up ever since switching to KF94 with the nose wire that folds in a rounded shape over the nose. But whenever I get haircuts, I use a bifold KN95 mask (sigh) because that's a mask where I can use double-sided mounting tape on the inside to attach it to my face.

Even when the KN95 earloops come off for my haircut, the mask stays on. Mounting tape on the inside of the mask isn't effective with KF94 masks because the grip is in the flaps and earloops resting on your face instead of gripping the face.

Mask tape might be better and work with my boat shaped KF94s.

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The Costco masks are interesting. They use a boat-shaped style where the mask puts more pressure on the side flaps and the design doesn't have to grip into the face to get a good seal. Masks don't have to be in the traditional KN95 tent shape to be KN95 as it's a self-declared standard. The boat shape suggests that the manufacturer wasn't just meeting the KN95 identifiers (the shape, the label) but actually trying to develop a good product while meeting the (self-declared) standard. And Costco tends to buy quality products for their stores.

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What I signed up for: it's apparently a Novavax trial. Novavax wasn't designed with any Omicron subvariants available for targeting, but it's prompted strong antibody response against BA.1, BA.4 and BA.5. I'm not sure it would be superior to an actual BA.4 and BA.5 bivalent dose, however.

I'm a little hesitant about KN95 masks. There is no real oversight on KN95 manufacturing. I could sell napkins as KN95 and there would be no consequences (aside from people not buying them). In contrast, KF94 masks are reviewed by the Korean government and have to filter at least 94 percent of incoming particles and withstand stretch tests for the earloops or the manufacturer will be fined. N95 masks are also reviewed by NIOSH.

It's interesting to me: KN95 masks are five layer masks: an outer water-resistant layer, two layers of meltblown polypropylene filtration to electrostatically capture particles, a layer of hot air cotton to catch larger debris, and a skin friendly layer.

KF94 masks tend to be three to four layers: the water-resistant layer, a structural layer for shape, one layer of meltblown polypropylene electrostatic filtering, and the skin friendly layer. Some KF94 masks omit the structural layer. Any KF94 mask on the market has had to pass filtration tests, most tend to filter in the 97 - 99 percent range. This means that you don't actually need two layers of electrostatic filtering or the hot air cotton. So why do KN95 masks have those two extra layers?

The hot air cotton may be helpful as a structural layer, but it seems to me that the cotton and the two layers of electrostatic filtering are probably the manufacturer using poor quality meltblown material, and having to stack two layers of meltblown filtration on top of the hot air cotton in order to keep the customer feeling like the air is being filtered and willing to keep buying the same brand of mask.

KN95 masks have been on a sad trajectory in my experiences with them. I would buy one great brand, but when buying more of the same, the newer masks would have poor stitching and rip apart at the center or at the earloops when I put them on. Newer batches of the same brand would use less material for the mask surface and earloops: the mask wouldn't fit or rip apart when stretching the loops to the ears. This has happened to me with four separate brands of KN95 masks and I just can't afford to keep buying unreliable masks for myself.

However, some of my friends find that KF94 masks don't fit them, and I've occasionally picked up some KN95 masks for them. And if a KN95 mask doesn't fall apart when you put it on, those two layers of meltblown material in the tent shape are probably better than a leaky surgical mask or a useless cloth mask

But the supply is highly unreliable, or at least it's been for me.

In other news, I recently ordered a water mister. I'm going to put artificial sweetener and water in the mister and create cool, sweet mist and see if I can taste the sweetness when wearing one of my masks. If I can't taste it, I'll know the mask is working correctly; if I can taste it, I'll know there are gaps in the seal.

The mister:
https://www.amazon.com/GIVERARE-Recharg … 08LGLZ8PT/

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SUPERGIRL at the end of Season 2 and the start of Season 3 is having a few collisions with reality. SUPERGIRL seems to have no sense of how the US military works and also has no sense of how federal security and counterintelligence agencies would handle a human resource crisis. SUPERGIRL also seems oddly unaware of how big planet Earth is.

Season 2 of SUPERGIRL has a finale that seems to collide with the reality of how the United States would actually respond to an alien invasion and the reality of SUPERGIRL's cable budget. Season 2's finale has the US President fighting aliens on the frontlines and Lena Luthor dosing planet Earth's atmosphere with an anti-Daxamaite poison using a single desktop device that's smaller than a fish tank.

Season 2's finale was, despite some peculiar storytelling choices in military strategy and technological scale, emotionally resonant. All the character arcs are spectacular: Kara can save the world, but she has to render Earth uninhabitable for the love of her life, Mon-El; she has to put him back in his Kryptonian lifepod and launch him away from Earth. The contrivances to reduce a global alien invasion to being confined to National City were... contrived. However, the contrivances were to serve a low budget and also for character beats that made sense emotionally even if the plot itself didn't always make sense.

One has to wonder why the writers weren't finding a more sensible reason to have President Marsdin present in National City than having Marsdin nonsensically leading the US Air Force into battle with the unarmed Air Force One -- such as Marsdin having deliberately ensured being in town to prep DEO defenses against the Daxamite invasion she'd been expecting.

One wonders why the writers didn't establish that putting low level amounts of lead throughout Earth's atmosphere was going to be accomplished with a global network of satellites venting exhaust and that Lena's thermos-sized machine was to link and activate the satellites, not to accomplish the entire planet-sized job from Lena's desk.

Season 1 was very capable in reducing SUPERGIRL's plots to the budget at hand. The Season 1 finale came up with reasons for why the Kryptonian soldiers were reduced to two. The Season 1 finale presented the Kryptonian attack on Earth as a psychic weapon that could be rendered with actors performing headaches so that pyrotechnics weren't needed. SUPERGIRL was good at building ramps over potholes of plot to justify scenes that would otherwise be irrational.

Why did these skills seem to desert SUPERGIRL in Season 2?

It seems to me the problem is the presence of unrepentant sexual harasser Andrew Kreisberg, the showrunner for SUPERGIRL, and the absence of Ali Adler, the original lead writer. Season 1 of SUPERGIRL had its scripts led and overseen by the brilliant Adler (CHUCK, GLEE, NO ORDINARY FAMILY, FAMILY GUY) who had a lot of experience in managing stories to fit low sitcom budgets. But Kreisberg had been sexually harassing and verbally abusing his staff, including Adler. Adler reported Kreisberg to human resources and her complaint didn't move forward. Adler quit SUPERGIRL. I've heard that as of the filming of Season 2, Episode 8, Adler refused to spend another moment on SUPERGIRL and moved into a CBS development deal, taking her away from the CW, from SUPERGIRL and from Kreisberg.

Adler retained an executive producer credit on Season 2 and it seems that her story outlines remained, but Kreisberg took over fleshing them out into full scripts. The stunning Episode 15 would appear to be the finale for Ali Adler's writing on the show.

Adler's story ideas took SUPERGIRL to the end of Season 2, but Adler wasn't shepherding her stories from outlines to scripting to filming. As a result, the Season 2 two part finale seems to feature Adler's emotional points (the President revealed as an alien, Kara having to rescue Lena and Mon-El from the spaceship that Alex has to destroy, fighting a mind-controlled Superman, Kara sacrificing her life with Mon-El to save Earth) -- but not Adler's ability to plot the connective material between the big setpieces and emotional conflicts.

Thanks to the characterization, Season 2 feels like a success, but that success is on some very shaky writing. Kreisberg clearly recognized the value of Adler's character beats, but he also clearly didn't have the skill to move the story from A to B without a lot of clumsiness along the way.

That clumsiness also seems present as we go into the Adlerless Season 3 of SUPERGIRL: Season 3's first two episodes show Kara to be absolutely traumatized by Mon-El's loss. Kara keeps flashing back to her mother (now played by Erica Durance and it's great to see her). Kara keeps remembering the terror and helplessness when she was 12 and stuffed into a metal tube that was shot into orbit while her planet exploded behind her.

Kara is consumed with guilt that she's now done the same thing to Mon-El, sending him off to dangers unknown. Melissa Benoist's performance is painful to watch.

Kara is coldly unresponsive to the civilians she saves as Supergirl, blank and unable to meet her deadlines as a reporter. Kara is avoiding her friends, cancelling every outing with Lena Luthor and avoiding the weekly game night. When Jimmy, now Kara's supervisor at Catco, reminds Kara to meet her deadlines, Kara is volatile and aggressive. When Alex asks Kara to connect with her friends and sister, Kara is abrasive and declares that Kara Danvers is a failed experiment and that attempting to live a human life has been a mistake.

It's a very strong character arc where Kara's unprofessionalism at Catco continues after best friend Lena Luthor buys the company. Lena sweetly suggests that Kara take a leave of absence to deal with her grief over Mon-El (whom the world knows was dating Kara, not Supergirl). Kara lashes out at Lena and snarls at Lena to only speak to Kara about work and not personal matters; Lena agrees and informs Kara: Kara is missing meetings. Kara is treating work orders from her employer as an inconvenience. Kara's behaviour at work is unacceptable.

Kara softly says she'll get to work on Lena's assignment. Later, Kara apologizes to Lena, thanking her for being a great friend and a great employer, and Kara recognizes that something inside her is fundamentally broken that has to be addressed.

SUPERGIRL's Season 3 character arc is fine. Kreisberg is solid with characterization. But the plot makes no sense. Kara Danvers is an employee of the Department of Extranormal Operations, a federal emergency response bureau. Kara Danvers just fought in a war. Kara Danvers is on active duty. Kara is a federal employee with the highest levels of federal security clearance; there is no way that the DEO would not be putting her in mandatory psychotherapy after Season 2 for survivor's guilt (she thinks Mon-El is dead), for combat trauma (she had to fight Superman) and for grief.

I understand that two episodes of Kara lying on the psychoanalyst's couch would not be the greatest use of Supergirl and her superpowers. But it's ridiculous to think that J'onn J'onzz, a federal emergency response manager, would allow Kara's trauma to go untreated. Or that Alex Danvers, a medical doctor (license unacquired), would leave Kara to deal with all these serious mental health issues on her own. Or that President Marsdin would allow a trauma victim with superpowers to keep working in a high securlity clearance government role without counselling sessions.

Once again, the issue here is rationalization to justify the more irrational story points. Adler would have understood that Kara would be seeing a DEO therapist; Adler would have found a way to have the therapist report that Kara was not a danger to anyone but deeply depressed over issues that Kara wasn't willing or able to verbalize, enabling the story to proceed with Kara trying to manage her grief alone.

Kreisberg seems rather dismissive of mental health care in real life and on his shows. And in a fictional context, it made sense that Oliver Queen wasn't seeing a therapist because he had a secret identity to protect. Barry Allen also had a similar situation. But Kara Danvers was working for the federal government as a secret agent and her sister was a physician (albeit having never been licensed).

It makes no sense that psychotherapy is never even discussed, and it speaks to Kreisberg's mindset where psychological problems are to be addressed with force and catharsis in the course of dominating life's problems rather than seeing a doctor.

It's noticeable that in Season 4, SUPERGIRL introduces a psychotherapist and neurologist in the Kelly Olsen character -- a development that could only happen after Andrew Kreisberg had been fired off the Arrowverse the previous year.

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I'll actually be posting any and all information about the vaccine trial here for us all to contemplate.

I don't see it happening, I doubt I'll actually get into this trial, but it's certainly interesting to look into it.

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The Season 2 finale has Lena Luthor build a device that can seed the entire atmosphere of planet Earth with trace amounts of lead to render it uninhabitable for the Daxamite invaders, forcing them to leave. This device is a cube that's about the size of the blu-ray set for all 15 seasons of SUPERNATURAL and SUPERGIRL genuinely wants us to believe this little square space heater sized object can instantly spread lead through the entire planet.

Strange things happen when the majority of the effects budget is blown on Supergirl pushing a giant spaceship back down to Earth.

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I posted earlier about how SUPERGIRL doesn't do well when attempting to confront real world issues without allegory or metaphor.
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 854#p13854

I'm at the two part Season 2 finale of SUPERGIRL and... SUPERGIRL isn't that great at dealing with reality in general. By this, I mean that when events on SUPERGIRL prompt a response from the US federal government, that response makes no sense in both our reality and the reality of Earth-38.

In the Season 2 finale story, the Daxamites stage an invasion of Earth, attacking National City. Since Earth-38 is presented as similar to our Earth with a semi-sensible representation of government, one would expect a US military response: blockade National City with fighter jets to isolate the airspace, prepare a surface to air missile response to take on the Daxamite mothership, dispatch soldiers to defend and evacuate civilians, and then we go from there.

Instead, SUPERGIRL decides that the United States response to an alien invasion of a major US city is to... fly Air Force One in the general direction of the alien ship. With the President aboard Air Force One.

Let's note that Air Force One has no armaments of any kind and no sane military strategy would have you throw your unarmed leaders at an invasion force.

SUPERGIRL also decides that the person who will be negotiating with the Daxamite invasion leader will be... the White House public relations director, Cat Grant, as opposed to literally anyone else with something resembling diplomatic skills and experience working with aliens.

*sigh*

SUPERGIRL is a very well-meaning, earnest, sincere show that wears its heart on its sleeve, but SUPERGIRL does better when it stays out of reality and confines its situations within the superhero bubble of National City.

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The general CDC guidance is that you need to wait (a) 10 days after the first positive test and (b) for the testing to be negative.

The updated CDC guidance is that you can wait (a) 5 days after the first positive test and (b) for the testing to be negative. This updated guidance struck me as more about fewer sick days being paid out than reducing contagion.

My personal threshold: recently, my niece had COVID-19, but because I had responsibilities to her, I went to see her despite only five days having passed. However, I brought along an air purifier to situate in our space and also used the Vicks nasal gel. I did pre-emptively make some arrangements to self-isolate in case I tested positive, but this proved unnecessary.

My air purifier (not necessarily the one you should get, but I have four of these in my condo)
https://www.amazon.com/Kaz-Honeywell-HP … ref=sr_1_9

Vicks nasal gel
https://vicks.ca/en-ca/shop-products/vi … us-blocker

SLIDERS on SD blu-ray if you need a conversation starter
https://www.amazon.com/Sliders-Die-komp … 01JOCMST0/

I cannot stress enough in the name of Quinn's hair gel, Rembrandt's afro, the Professor's beard and Wade's leather jacket that the pandemic mitigation opinions of ireactions are not the views of the Sliders.TV community.

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On a side note: I've stopped wearing masks outdoors. I feel that the risk of outdoor transmission is negligible, so I'm now only putting on a mask before walking into a public indoor space like a grocery store or (on occasion) a movie theatre. I've been going to some restaurants, but I bring with me this USB-powered air purifier that I plug into a mobile powerbank. I also put this gel up my nose that's supposed to catch viruses before they infect the respiratory tract. I'm looking forward to a summer of not wearing masks outdoors and not having to search for a thin, summer-wearable mask.

I recently signed up for this medical trial to get a sixth dose COVID vaccine booster, but I'm not sure if they'll call or if I want to potentially get a placebo dose.

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TemporalFlux wrote:
ireactions wrote:

On an adjacent note: another example of a goodhearted TV show inadvertently trivializing climate change is MACGYVER where, in the fourth season, MacGyver has a nervous breakdown over the climate emergency, but then goes to Washington to present ecological warnings to various politicians, and MACGYVER nonsensically presents this as MacGyver having somehow solved climate change with a PowerPoint and a speech.

But he’s MacGyver!  He can stop a nuclear meltdown with a chocolate bar!  wink

On some level, MACGYVER's writers seemed to truly believe this. They threw MacGyver into a real-world crisis for Season 4's 13 episode run, and they seemed genuinely certain that MacGyver would have something to say. And I felt the same way for the first 12 episodes of Season 4; I desperately needed my hero, MacGyver, a Quinn Mallory-esque figure of boyish genius with interesting hair, to give me the answers I needed.

And MacGyver did have something to say. It was pretty much the same as what Al Gore said in 2006 in AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH to very little effect. MacGyver saying the same things in 2020 was not the impactful moment that MACGYVER's writers seemed to hope for.

In a mild defense (excuse) for the MACGYVER writers: COVID severely impacted the Season 4 finale in which MacGyver's victory over climate change is a slideshow in Washington. That scene was not supposed to be the Season 4 finale, but the episode was hastily assembled and re-assembled in the edit bay as a season-ender when MACGYVER had to suddenly shut down production and send its cast into lockdown.

Had MACGYVER not been shut down, I have to think that the writers would have reviewed the initial cut of the Season 4 'finale' and realized that the ending didn't work. I have to think they would have shot an extra scene of MacGyver at the US capitol. Maybe MacGyver's boss, Matty, asks him how it went. Maybe MacGyver says he failed; government is declaring that short-term economic gain is their priority. Maybe Matty tells MacGyver that real change doesn't come from one person with a slideshow and a Swiss Army knife; it's the product of many collective efforts across civilization, and that every time MacGyver averts a disaster, he's giving the world another chance to get things right. And maybe MacGyver says that the Phoenix Foundation can't just be content with spy missions and rescue work anymore and that Phoenix has to start building a better world, not just preserving it as it is.

TV trivializes real world difficulties when it has fictional characters 'solve' problems that remain unsolved in reality, but TV can certainly have characters pledge to be companions on the path to a better tomorrow. And Season 5's episodes would have benefitted from a regular mention of MacGyver's ecological work and some eco-focused episodes (villains who create oil spills to drive up fuel prices, climate change disasters where MacGyver has to deal with a flood or an earthquake). However, this didn't happen; MacGyver's nervous breakdown over the environment in Season 4 was completely gone in Season 5.

This appears to be due to COVID. When production resumed for Season 5, the world was experiencing an ecological new dawn: lockdowns had prompted a stunning level of environmental repair from travel and manufacturing having shut down across the globe. With Season 5 taking place at some unspecified point 'after' the pandemic, it didn't make sense to have MacGyver still in crisis until production actually found out what this post-pandemic world would be. Unfortunately, it once again left MACGYVER in this foggy landscape of somehow having 'solved' climate change in the previous season.

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And now, I don my political criticism hat to criticize SUPERGIRL:

SUPERGIRL in Season 2 starts to attempt some real world topicality: the Parasite is an angry, murderous scientist targeting climate change deniers and big business polluters and Supergirl tracks him down and stops him. The probably-unintended message here seems to be that anyone who tries to do anything about climate change is a homicidal maniac.

The tail-end of the season has Lena Luthor working with Daxmamites on matter-transporters via datastream which Lena thinks could solve climate change as well; the probably-unintended message seems to be that any technology that could battle climate change is too dangerous.

This is one of those awkward situations where SUPERGIRL's writers are drawing on real world issues for character motives -- but keep assigning those motives to antagonists like the Parasite and the Daxamites. And yet, having Supergirl work on climate change wouldn't be effective either. Supergirl's action-oriented character wouldn't have much to do standing in marches and crafting environmental legislation.

Supergirl voicing climate change concerns would leave you wondering why she and Superman aren't using Kryptonian technology to offer repair and alternative means of food production and fuel.

In fact, SUPERGIRL claiming that Earth-38 is experiencing climate change in some ways undermines its plot for Seasons 1 - 4: that alien refugees are coming to Earth as a safe haven. The viewer has to wonder why aliens keep gravitating to a warming planet of overpopulation diminished resources. There's some attempt to address this by noting that Kryptonians aren't any better than humans, blowing up their own planet whereas humans will merely render Earth uninhabitable for themselves and that no planet is really free of this no matter how advanced. But then why isn't climate change Supergirl's number-one priority? Why is fighting bank robbers more important?

Ultimately, real-world climate change is extremely ill-suited to a superhero show that deals in escapism and action, and a show that does not have any real world solutions to a real world problem.

In fact, SUPERGIRL might have been better off avoiding this real-world subject in this direct fashion. It's not that I think fiction should avoid saying anything about obvious ecological catastrophe; it's that I don't think this fictional show can say anything worthwhile about it. Every time they try, they inadvertently present any character worried about the environment as a crazy supervillain. Meanwhile, the superheroes never actually voice any climate opinions at all.

What would Supergirl even have to say about it? In the context of Earth-38, one would think that Superman and Supergirl would have gifted Kryptonian technology to all of Earth, but that humans are going to need decades to recreate and adjust the technology to solve humans' problems. Furthermore, Kryptonian technology led to Krypton exploding, so Kryptonian solutions aren't actually solutions in themselves without a lot of extra work.

In terms of fictional functionality, Earth-38 cannot be the real world. If it were, alien refugees would likely choose another planet. I don't think superheroes like Supergirl are the right choice to address global warming in this manner because when the writers raise the issue, you wonder why Supergirl is stopping bank robberies and why Superman is coaching football teams instead of working on the environment.

I think that for SUPERGIRL to take on climate change, it'd be better to concoct an allegory: perhaps Kryptonian technology is being misused in a way that damages the Earth's core stability or drains human bodies of lifeforce, and Supergirl has to convince people to stop using it in this fashion. SUPERGIRL found a highly potent metaphor for immigration with the alien refugee storyline of Season 4 and found a somewhat less potent metaphor for social media with the VR contact lenses of Season 5.

But when SUPERGIRL tries to pretend that the show is set in the real world as opposed to a superhero reality, it raises questions that the show ultimately can't answer on subjects where the show doesn't really have anything meaningful to say.

On an adjacent note: another example of a goodhearted TV show inadvertently trivializing climate change is MACGYVER where, in the fourth season, MacGyver has a nervous breakdown over the climate emergency, but then goes to Washington to present ecological warnings to various politicians, and MACGYVER nonsensically presents this as MacGyver having somehow solved climate change with a PowerPoint and a speech.

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One peculiar thing about SUPERGIRL: every season accomplishes something wonderful that no subsequent season could repeat or maintain. Season 1 achieved Superman-style aerial combat on a TV budget with Supergirl. By the end of Season 1, this had become unaffordable and Supergirl is mostly fighting earthbound foes from Season 2 onward.

Season 2 managed to give Kara Danvers a meaningful romance, something SUPERGIRL was unable to ever accomplish ever again in any subsequent season. The Mon-El/Kara romance worked on every level: it was a triumph of scripting where Mon-El had a really distinct individuality beyond being a supporting character for Kara. It was a triumph of performance with the actors showing why Mon-El could reach Kara in all the ways Winn Schott and Jimmy Olsen weren't as suited.

It was a triumph in real life: Melissa Benoist throughout Season 1 had been falling apart in her abusive marriage and staggered into Season 2 having initiated divorce proceedings and fled to Vancouver, Benoist met actor Chris Wood as he played Mon-El and clearly, what was onscreen was present in real life too. Benoist says that Wood loved her and taught her to love herself as well, and they got married three years later.

Why did the Mon-El/Kara romance work, and why couldn't the show ever find a new romance? Well, it helps to look at why Winn and Jimmy didn't work out with Kara. Winn's attraction to Kara is played as Winn seeing himself reflected in Kara. He's anxious, insecure, silly, goofy, humourous and loves board games; that's basically Kara's identity too.

The issue with that is that Winn didn't bring anything to the table that Kara didn't already have. Winn and Kara cancelled each other out romantically which was why Kara enjoyed spending time with him but never felt romantic tension with him. Noticeably, Winn's girlfriends after his failed pass at Kara had a certain ruthlessness and killer instinct (Silver Banshee, Lyra the art thief) which Winn himself lacks.

And on Kara's end: the bubbly, emotive girlchild personality was a part of her, but it was not the entirety of her character, just a civilian identity. The Supergirl identity is a relief worker and warrior and that's a part of her that Winn could never really reach. Winn was only compatible with Kara Danvers, not Supergirl.

Then we have Jimmy. Kara admired Jimmy as someone who exemplified all the confidence and security and clarity of moral and professional purpose that she herself wished she had. Jimmy was also tall, muscled and beautiful. Kara crushed on Jimmy hard.

But as Kara grew more confident and capable and began to clamp down on her youthful anxiety, she started to develop a similar problem with Jimmy that ruled out any romance with Winn. Jimmy and Supergirl were becoming incredibly similar to the point where they were cancelling each other out, and Jimmy also lacked the laidback goofiness that Kara enjoyed in civilian life. Once they were on an equal level, it became a friendship.

So then we come to Mon-El. It certainly helped that Mon-El was, like Kara, and alien and had some superpowers to join her in crimefighting. However, superpowers alone didn't really make him Kara's equal: Mon-El's superstrength and invulnerability didn't compare to Supergirl's flight, heat vision, x-ray vision, superspeed, etc..

Mon-El was someone who ultimately came to enjoy fun as much as heroics and could speak to both Kara Danvers and Kara Zor-El. He was the only person with whom Kara ever felt comfortable getting drunk.

He was also a survivor of a planetary apocalypse; he was open to stepping into the life of a superhero but also willing to enjoy civilian life on his own terms. He had a lot to learn, starting out with a certain hapless entitlement where, without malice, he would often offload his work on anyone he could and seize any attempt for hedonism over work; but he was also able to accept criticisms and find a better work-life balance. He wasn't evil, he was just lazy.

Mon-El is further exposed when Kara dumps him and Mon-El still chooses to be a hero even if he's going to be doing it without Kara in his life, finally proving his mettle and resilience. Mon-El could be both a hard partying hellraiser and a thoughtful observer of life, and he had a certain focus on self-preservation first that created a lot of fun tension and conflict between him and Kara.

Mon-El was particularly enriched as a character when his snobby, elitist, homicidal, planet-invading, slave-owning parents showed up; it became clear that Mon-El was a glowingly positive and good-hearted soul at his core because despite these two murderous human traffickers being his parents, Mon-El only turned out a little spoiled without any of the selfish cruelty exemplified by his mother and father.

Mon-El had a distinct and understandable approach to life: he would always save his own neck first and save himself before he got to work saving other people. In contrast, Kara rarely thought of herself in a crisis.

This small distinction made him different from Kara but also compatible, whereas Winn's goofiness and Jimmy's heartfelt sincerity were always too similar to Kara. This was effective from a writing standpoint, allowing Mon-El to be his own character and not just Kara's boyfriend, and it made Mon-El's mentality and philosophy individual. It was perfect.

Of course, since it was Season 2 and Melissa Benoist was on contract for six seasons, it seemed far too early for Kara to settle down and SUPERGIRL elected to send Mon-El into the future, creating a tragic love story where he validated Supergirl's legacy while never able to reunite with her; by the time he could make it back to the present, he had moved on and even gotten married to someone else.

SUPERGIRL would never again be able to create a love interest as well-suited to Kara. Ultimately, the Mon-El character proved to be a unique blend of hiring an excellent actor who was so perfect that Kara loved his character and Melissa Benoist loved the performer. The Mon-El character was an interesting mix of being non-maliciously self-serving while having a certain innocence and goodheartedness that would always win out. The Mon-El character had a certain penchant for hedonism matched with a sweetness and warmth that made him alarming but also unthreatening.

Any male character after Mon-El would always pale in his prospects with Kara and on some level, the show knew that, not even bothering to introduce any boyfriends for Kara for two years. Season 5 brought in William Dey as a love interest. And while William was a wonderfully performed and charmingly scripted character, the writers couldn't find a way to have him connect to Kara Zor-El and Kara Danvers, and ultimately, Season 6 chose to present William as merely a friend.

The only character who really stood a chance of being a good match for Kara after Mon-El was Lena Luthor, but for reasons that need their own post, this was unfortunately not to be.

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Because of Slider_Quinn21, I now have to look at every Season 9 episode of THE FLASH and ask: is this story more important than resolving LEGENDS OF TOMORROW? And watching Season 9, Episode 2, I have to ask: why did we need an entire episode of Team Flash not resurrecting Caitlin Snow and effectively killing off Caitlin and Frost?

The story plays almost as though THE FLASH suddenly lost the performers who play Caitlin and Frost except Danielle Panabaker is still on the show and still on contract. This removal comes off as completely nonsensical and pointless. Why is THE FLASH introducing a new regular character in its final season when they have little time to build and explore this new role?

I just don't understand it. With only 12 episodes left, why isn't THE FLASH simply getting what is left of its cast and characters back onscreen with a minimum of fuss, but instead actively removing two cast members even when the actor is still being paid to film? Why isn't the final season of THE FLASH featuring Dr. Caitlin Snow being a biologist and medical doctor and featuring Frost being aggressive and reckless? It would have taken a lot less screentime to resurrect Frost and bring back Caitlin than the whole episode it took to deep-six Caitlin and Frost.

Was this really more important than resolving LEGENDS OF TOMORROW?

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From a budget standpoint, I find that the two Season 2 premiere episodes of SUPERGIRL, both episodes featuring Superman, might be better viewed as a special television event production separate from the rest of Season 2. These two episodes are clearly budgeted at a higher rate than the rest of the year.

After Season 1 had Superman texting Supergirl, Season 2 opens with Supergirl struggling to save a crashing space shuttle and Superman actually shows up in person to help her. The aerial sequences are astonishing with Superman and Supergirl battling drones in the airspace of National City and keeping a collapsing building from falling apart. The special effects are dense, lavish, detailed and expensive.

This premiere also adds extra effects to a Season 1 sequence. The Season 1 finale had Kara and J'onn investigating a crashed Kryptonian pod that looked exactly like Kara's pod (same CG model and physical prop). Season 2 actually shows the pod crashing and creates an additional action sequence of Kara saving civilians caught in the pod's flight path.

Slider_Quinn21 noted that some of the Metallo makeup was not great and it wasn't, but the shots went by so fast that it didn't seem to matter too much (at least to me).

However, one area where SUPERGIRL is clearly preparing for a cheaper season: Superman and Kara are no longer fighting supervillains who are capable of flight. Season 1 had a lot of Kryptonians fighting Supergirl, Kryptonians who could fly and had the same powers. Season 2 has supervillains who are mostly on the ground, meaning Supergirl has to land to confront them.

After the two episode Season 2 debut, the series starts to cut down on flight-driven action sequences. Kara is fighting people on the ground rather than in the skies, justfiying it through supervillains who can't fly. But even when J'onn is fighting another Martian, the fight is kept on the ground even though both characters can fly. In general, Kara flies less; her habit of hovering above the ground for conversations is reduced to nearly nothing.

Season 2 clearly has less money to build new sets every week. Season 1 would often have the characters in a new location or an indoor set built just for the episode: Maxwell Lord's office and labs, train stations, an outdoor desert combat training location, a toy factory. Season 2 cuts down: villains lounge in vaguely defined warehouses or facilities with lots of pipeworks. There's an effort to move as many scenes as possible to the DEO location's operations bay and medical centre. Mon-El seems to live there. A reporter, a city cop and a bartender can walk in whenever they want to hang out in this top secret, off-the-books, black-ops federal facility that is a closely guarded secret restricted to the highest echelons of government.

However, all this trimming is clearly trying to make it so that when a standout, lavish, wirework driven action sequence is needed, it's significant and impactful. Episode 15, "Exodus", is one of the most impressive episodes of SUPERGIRL ever made and it seems that I somehow missed it on its original airdate and missed chunks of it when rewatching the second half of Season 2 on streaming in summer 2017. (I was having some internet service issues at the time.)

Looking over my posts from the era, it seems I didn't see the second half of this episode because I kept saying that Jeremiah Danvers' motives weren't explained when they were; I distinctly remember thinking the last time we ever saw Jeremiah was J'onn impersonating him to see if Alex would help Cadmus if Jeremiah asked (and when Alex agrees to help Jeremiah, J'onn suspends Alex from the DEO). Clearly, that's when my CW app went down and when my ISP cut out.

"Exodus" is an epic episode. Since Season 2, Cadmus has been plotting some terrible endgame with alien refugees that involves Alex's father, Jeremiah Danvers (Dean Cain). Jeremiah is revealed to be helping Cadmus with their plans, causing Alex to go completely insane after this betrayal. "Exodus" reveals that Jeremiah was helping Cadmus retrieve and rebuild spaceships to forcibly deport alien refugees away from Earth which Jeremiah considered to be preferable to Cadmus wanting to kill them.

"Exodus" is where Alex Danvers' scientific background as a medical doctor and a biologist seem to disappear entirely from the show. Alex delivered some technobabble in Season 1, but it's been less and less as we get into Season 2 and this week, Alex goes from being Dr. Caitlin Snow with combat training to commiting fully to being a female version of Tom Cruise in the MISSION IMPOSSIBLE movies. Alex becomes a tactical genius of masterful improvisation.

Alex, suspended from the DEO, goes rogue in hunting down Cadmus: she interrupts a Cadmus-organized round-up of alien refugees and tracks down the Cadmus base where the first alien deportation ship is loaded with aliens and soon to launch and will reach lightspeed after exiting Earth's atmosphere.

Alex gets captured on purpose so she can inform the Cadmus ringleader that she's planted 10 bombs around the entire facility to destroy it. When Cadmus doesn't believe her and sets the ship to take off, Alex sets off the first two bombs; when Cadmus reveals the takeoff can't be turned off. Alex sets off all the bombs to prevent any further spaceship launches. Jeremiah betrays Cadmus and tries to help Alex, but gets knocked unconscious and his fate is left ambiguous. Alex boards the ship just as it achieves lift off, hoping to stop it from inside.

It's here that we come to Season 2's standout action sequence: Alex discovers that she can't take control of the autopiloted spaceship about to transport her and 500 innocent aliens to the other side of the galaxy. The DEO has no space travel capacity and no means to retrieve them; Season 1 established that Supergirl can't even fly outside of Earth's orbit.

Supergirl arrives on the scene as the ship is in stratosphere and tries to stop the ship with superbreath and a layer of ice. The ship, being built to withstand the cold of space, smashes right through the ice. Supergirl flies to the front of the ship, sees Alex through cockpit viewport and the sisters lock eyes. Supergirl launches herself at the front of the ship, trying to force a 100 million kilogram spaceship with engines that can achieve lightspeed back to the ground.

It's here that Season 2's scrimping and saving since the Season 2 premiere is all put on the screen. The special effects are stunning: the ship breaching mesosphere, Supergirl's face breaking with physical agony as she tries to push the ship back, Alex looking on from inside the ship, and the two Danvers sisters mutually realizing, to their horror: Supergirl isn't strong enough to push the rising ship back down to Earth. Kara's power has reached its limits.

The effects are very important, but it's the acting from Melissa Benoist and Chyler Leigh that makes them meaningful. elevating the moment from Supergirl pushing a heavy object to a horrific revelation of defeat: Alex is helpless and Kara has pushed her body to its limit and it isn't enough. If Kara keeps fighting the ship, she'll just be driven into orbit with it and suffocate in space.

Then Alex puts her hand to the viewport glass and Kara instinctively does the same. Both realize that Kara can't live without exerting every last drop of strength to stop the ship. Kara pushes again and realizes while she isn't stronger than the ship, she's stronger than its engines and generates enough opposing force that the ship's thrusters stall and blow out from the resistance, leaving the ship adrift in thermosphere and gradually descending.

It's an astonishing combination of effects, editing, music and performance, and this was absolutely the very best place for SUPERGIRL to blow its effects savings for the year even though we still have seven episodes left in Season 2.

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Hilarious inconsistency between Seasons 2 and 4 of SUPERGIRL:

In Season 4, the President of the United States demands to know Supergirl's civilian identity and when Supergirl refuses to give it, he fires her from the DEO. Later in the season, it's declared that at the DEO, only J'onn, Alex and like three other anonymous DEO agents know that Kara Danvers is Supergirl.

Except in Season 2: Kara is constantly walking around the DEO in her glasses and plainclothes. One might wonder if Kara has a civilian job at the DEO in addition to being Supergirl, but Kara rips off her shirt to reveal the Supergirl costume underneath in several scenes while surrounded by DEO staff.

Kara is addressed as "Kara" by various DEO personnel like Agent Vasquez. Alex and J'onn call her "Kara" while DEO extras are walking back and forth through the operations bay. At one point, Mon-El announces to the DEO at large, "Kara and I are dating!"

Supergirl being Kara Danvers is clearly not a secret when every janitor and short order cook who clocks in at the DEO is allowed to overhear all this. There may have been some cut dialogue about J'onn periodically wiping DEO agents' memories of The Secret, but as it stands, this is another massive continuity error across entire seasons, and... I think it's just great.

I don't know why Quinn being nearsighted in the Pilot but having perfect vision afterwards bothers me but this error delights me; I have to assume that I just really like Melissa Benoist's Kara and will tolerate anything to hang out with her.

I'd agree about having two different colour gradings in the video stream.

Setting aside personal taste: objectively, Lucas' colour regrading of the original STAR WARS trilogy created a lot of visual problems that were incredibly distracting even on late-90s VHS. Lucas' colour grading was ultimately to replace the low-contrast high-brightness look of his trilogy with a hypersaturated, high contrast look that would ultimately mimic Lucas' prequel movies.

These changes unfortunately led to crushed blacks and damaged hues: Darth Vader's costume went from being a disturbing robotic approximation of humanity to a vague shadow of blackness. Lightsaber colours were warped: Luke's blue blade became mismatched from shot to shot, going from green to blue to green. Darth Vader's lightsaber, a terrifyingly imposing red of harshness and horror, became a faded pink. The crisp and deadly white cores of the lightsabers became a muddied set of the outline colours.

The changes also damage the coherence of the movie. In the original trilogy, the movie often seemed a little too bright in the desert because the intense sunlight was more than what the camera and film technology of the era could capture. But when the blowouts are managed, then the desert garb costumes look less like Tatooine clothing and more like the hacked up blankets gathered by a scrambling costume master. Obi-Wan's costume looks less like the garments of a hermit warrior and more like a bathrobe over a T-shirt when the film is too clear and overbrightened. The visuals weren't meant for this level of lighting. And that's before we get into how the computer generated X-Wings are severely mismatched to the practical models.

Getting back to the subjective: BACK TO THE FUTURE actually benefits from the 1985 scenes looking a little drab compared to the pop art hypersaturation of the 1960s. This specific movie series benefits from looking as bright and rich as Bob Gale wants it to look because the main special effect of the series is the vivid settings of the 1960s, the '2015' future, the alternate 1985, and the wild west of the third movie.

I personally wouldn't dare to say that all colour regrading is good or bad; I would say that for the specific project of BACK TO THE FUTURE's three movies, Bob Gale's intentions and results were, in my opinion, very good and that the original material could withstand and even shine with the Gale-regrading. But I am totally on board with viewers being able to select what they want to see.

In the case of BACK TO THE FUTURE, the colours were always meant to look rich and hypersaturated. But what looked colourful and vivid on theatre projection screens in 1985 was looking faded and washed out on LCD televisions in 2015. Movie theatre screens were dimmer than the screens in our living rooms today.

In addition, the 2015 remaster of BACK TO THE FUTURE wasn't recoloured by a random someone, it was done by Bob Gale, the original writer, producer and storytelling force behind the series. Robert Zemeckis, the director, has always struck me as more the technical genius behind the movie, but less the creator and more the special effects facilitator.

Now, not every change made by the original creator of a property will be effective. George Lucas' hideous STAR WARS recolourings and replacement effects are a disaster.

However, I feel Bob Gale had the right approach: he adjusted the colouring of each scene individually, not just amping up the colour vibrance across the board. He wasn't trying to change BACK TO THE FUTURE as much as he wanted it to look as good on 2015 TVs as it did in 1985 movie theatres.

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Another inconsistency between SUPERGIRL's first and second season: when Jimmy Olsen and Winn Schott show up in the DEO desert base, every DEO agent flips out. It's a massive security breach to have two journalism employees in a covert, black-operations, off the books, officially non-existent spy operation. J'onn is furious at their presence and throws them out, but grudgingly tolerates Jimmy frequently venturing into this top secret base every time he wants a heart to heart with Kara.

Then we go to Season 2... and pretty much anyone is allowed to come into the DEO and wander the premises. Mon-El, an alien refugee with a shaky backstory, is basically allowed to live there. Maggie Sawyer, a National City police officer, is injured and Alex Danvers brings Maggie to the DEO for medical treatment instead of taking Maggie to... a hospital.

Winn is hired to work at the DEO, but he's apparently allowed to use DEO materials and a DEO van and DEO computers to help James become a vigilante superhero and Winn never has to account for using alien technology, DEO hardware and DEO vehicles for his hobby project. Jimmy keeps going to the DEO to hang out with Winn. Winn keeps describing his workday and various projects to Jimmy despite Winn's work and projects being part of a black-ops, off-the-books government operation. J'onn brings a random bartender to the DEO for no apparent reason beyond the show not having the budget to construct another set as a neutral gathering place.

The DEO has gone from being a secret base to basically being the National City public library. It's very, very, very funny. I love it.

Also, I was wrong when I said that none of the DEO agents who thank Kara for her valour are seen again. Vasquez (the shorthaired DEO agent played by Briana Venskus who also plays Piper on AGENTS OF SHIELD) is still appearing at the DEO throughout Season 2. She will stop appearing eventually, however; she probably decided it didn't make sense to keep flying to Vancouver to guest-star when she was guest-starring on AGENTS OF SHIELD in Los Angeles without needing a plane to get to the set.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I was not a fan of the new BTTF Blu-Ray as well, but I think I heard that it was more reflective of how it may have first appeared in theaters?

The frustrating thing about BACK TO THE FUTURE that you've noted: the previous blu-ray release in 2015 was overseen by producer Bob Gale who amped up the colours significantly to make the film look vibrant and new on HDTV screens. It was done with care and thought, making the film fit for modern day viewing on modern equipment without cheapening the original intentions. The 2020 release may be in 4K and have HDR, but it's completely undone all of Gale's adjustments for HDTV presentation when Gale had found a happy medium between Lucas-style overrevisionism and historical preservation.

I'm currently upscaling SLIDERS episodes 1.03 - 1.09. Just letting it run at home over the weekend while I go on a roadtrip.

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My guess would be that there were originally some extra scripted lines in Cadmus' broadcast manifesto, some dialogue about how, "We are Cadmus, we will no longer follow the leadership of the United States government. If government won't protect its human citizens, we will. If government won't eradicate the alien menace, we will."

The CW was hoping that viewers who'd skipped SUPERGIRL on CBS would be drawn to watch a season premiere featuring Superman, viewers who may not have seen the previous episodes describing Cadmus as a DEO-associate. My guess would be that going into Season 2, there was some thought that new viewers might be confused by the complication of Cadmus being a government agency that is no longer a government agency.

Rather than invite the audience to grapple with that complexity, SUPERGIRL elected to just present Cadmus as a terrorist organization and not mention that Cadmus had previously been a partner branch of the DEO and I imagine those lines were cut from the script.

This is also noticeable in the mild retcon to Superman's schism with J'onn J'onzz and the DEO where the reasoning for why Superman won't work with them is altered to say that J'onn's kryptonite armanents are the conflict. "You can't offer friendship with one hand while holding kryptonite in the other," Superman says, making no mention of refusing to have any association with Cadmus.

I would think that Superman would have had some dialogue indicating that he'd learned Cadmus had originally gathered the kryptonite that the DEO was now keeping, using that as an example of how agencies don't keep the same leaders with the same scruples forever.

This is deeply comforting, thank you!

Universal has been screwing up DVD releases since at least 2002 (the mis-framed BACK TO THE FUTURE release) and right through to 2022 (messed up colours on the new BTTF blu-ray). But if the negatives are still in storage, then perhaps we're just a few regime changes and scanning adjustments away from Universal making better use of its back catalog.

I just watched a hypergrainy AI upscale of "Summer of Love" and it looks like we have a choice between Episodes 1.02 - 1.09 looking really grainy (like a the very grainy Season 2 Turbine PAL release) or like a really waxy watercolour. I guess grain is preferable.

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In Season 1 of SUPERGIRL, J'onn is exposed as a Martian pretending to be human. He is captured, imprisoned, and told that he will be sent to "Cadmus" which J'onn describes as the unit of the US Department of Extranormal Operations that performs dissections and eviscerations of aliens in order to kill their races more efficiently and also to co-opt and reproduce their powers. Cadmus is the reason why Superman refuses to work with the US government or the DEO.

In SUPERGIRL's Season 2 premiere episodes, National City is attacked by Cadmus, now described as an anti-alien terrorist organization that declares the US government to be an enemy of Cadmus for the United States' systemic sympathy for alien refugees and for the announcement of the Alien Amnesty Act granting refugee status to interstellar newcomers. Cadmus has no association with the US government.

There are moments in television that can truly only be summed up in a single, succinct word:

Whoops.

We may not want to assume that pneumatic lives in the United States. In fact, given their linguistic patterns and specific vocabulary choices, I would surmise that pneumatic lives in Australia.

(I'm just messing with you, that's the geolocated IP address indicated by the Bboard.)

Sorry to hear PAL has let you down again. Is it just the Season 1 episodes that are poor, or is it all five seasons? Seasons 2 - 5 look great on the German-released Turbine blu-ray which uses the PAL masters.

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SUPERGIRL's first season finale is a very solid piece of work. The threat of Myriad is resolved with a truly stirring speech from Supergirl, beautifully performed by Melissa Benoist.

The writing has many shining moments. There's J'onn J'onzz silently revealing that he could have escaped the DEO at any time but chose to stay to help the humans and the DEO against the Kryptonians. There's the extremely well-written dialogue where Alex establishes that Kara can't survive in outer space and that her flight abilities wouldn't allow her to generate thrust to return to Earth should she enter orbit and escape planetary gravity.

The finale also establishes the futility of violence: Supergirl has the same powers as the Kryptonians, so combat would be pointless and the day has to be won with strategy, tactics and sacrifice as Supergirl gives up her own life to remove Myriad from planet Earth. The shot of Supergirl floating away into space only for her pod to come to her rescue with a glimmer of Alex in the cockpit is beautiful, as is the soft transition to Kara waking up in the DEO lab.

However, all this writing noting that superpowered combat wouldn't accomplish anything at times looks less like high minded ideals and more like a budget crash. SUPERGIRL at one point has Kara demand to know where the 50 or so superpowered Kryptonian soldiers are and why she doesn't have to fight them; it's explained that they're all in their sleeper pods preparing to leave Earth, so J'onn and Kara only have to fight General Non and Indigo.

The fight scenes are quick and to the point with J'onn ripping Indigo apart while Kara and Non firing heat vision back and forth with minimal wirework and fight choreography. The writers do a solid job of hiding the shortfalls and it all felt suitably epic when this first aired, but on a second viewing, I can see the bare budget even though I admire and enjoy how the writers are doing their best to cover for the shortcomings of their accountants.

This minimalist approach to superpowers and visuals is pretty much the scale of the show once we settle into Season 2.

It's a bit alarming that we started SUPERGIRL's first season with a hyperdetailed rendering of Kara saving a crashing plane in the pilot. Now the finale has blurs of CG and two actors glaring intensely at each other with ray beams as they stand in the desert outside LA.

The cliffhanger has a spaceship crashing to Earth and Kara and J'onn investigating the crash. Kara is astonished to see that the spaceship is just like her own Kryptonian pod; it's a fascinating mystery to lead us into Season 2. However, one can't help but note that using a Kryptonian pod allowed SUPERGIRL to reuse the same CG spaceship model and the same physical prop they've had since the pilot, an unavoidable design choice since SUPERGIRL couldn't afford to create a new ship design or build a new prop.

Money issues also seem to have struck one of the closing plot developments of Season 1: the unseen President of the United States declares that J'onn J'onzz is pardoned for impersonating a federal agent and commanding a federal defense agency, and furthermore, J'onn is now officially installed as director of said federal agency. This is absolutely nonsensical on every level except the one on which it was originally intended: we were supposed to meet the President much earlier in Season 1 and get some rationale for this bizarre turn of events.

Episode 11, "Strange Visitor from Another Planet", featured Senator Miranda Crane, an publicly anti-alien politician who changes her mind about anti-alien legislation after Supergirl saves her. It looks like this character was originally meant to be President Olivia Marsdin, to be played by Lynda Carter.

Furthermore, the episode was to reveal to the viewer (but not the characters) that Marsdin was an alien who'd deliberately presented an alien-hostile platform in order to publicly 'change' her mind to puncture anti-alien prejudice and start the path to human and alien unity, much in the same way J'onn impersonated the alien-loathing Hank Henshaw to imprison violent aliens and protect peaceful ones.

This would then explain why President Marsdin would pardon J'onn and reinstate his command at the DEO. Unfortunately, due to the show's financial issues, Carter couldn't be booked until Season 2. The show decided to save Carter's character and plot twist for later, but in doing so, SUPERGIRL lost its rationale for J'onn getting his old job back.

I like the Season 1 finale a lot, but I can certainly see how the Los Angeles production had become unworkable.

Here's a question: does Universal actually have the original negatives at this point?

The blu-ray release of THE X-FILES has numerous sequences with standard definition footage that's been upscaled. Many effects and background plates were sourced from the SD videotapes and rotoscoped onto HD rescans. And THE X-FILES was one of FOX's biggest shows, the crown jewel of their network for nearly a decade.

If FOX had trouble hanging onto the negatives for one of its biggest franchises, how likely is Universal to have held or stored to the original film for SLIDERS? Universal can't even release BACK TO THE FUTURE on DVD or blu-ray without massively screwing it up.

For years, Temporal Flux's enemies (I'm not among them) have speculated on all the treasures that TF may be storing in his basement: gag reels, scripts, beat sheets, pitch documents, casting calls, trading cards, original art, storyboards, audition sides, cheque copies, party invitations, locks of Sabrina Lloyd's hair, Jerry O'Connell's baby teeth, John Rhys-Davies' saliva samples, Cleavant Derrick's unfinished sandwiches, Kari Wuhrer's self-respect, Scott Smith Miller's dream journal, David Peckinpah's sobriety, Bill Dial's heart, Keith Damron's spine, Tracy Torme's pizza boxes, Robert K. Weiss' robots.

I am absolutely sure Temporal Flux has all of these things, but unless he's storing SLIDERS' film cannisters under his bed, I suspect they may be hard to locate at this point.

Anyway. I'm going to watch a super-grainy version of "Summer of Love" on my TV in a bit while a fine-grain upscale runs on it again on my computer.

With regards to the Universal home video department's crimes against humanity: one wonders why they had to increase the size of the image when producing DVDs.

My theory: Episodes 1.02 - 1.09 do not look like 480i files to me. The container may have that resolution, but the video content itself looks more like 360i, maybe even 240i. My guess would be that the finished episodes for 1.02 - 1.09 were on low resolution analog videotape that was below the resolution of DVD VOB containers and these analog scans were stretched to 480 size and likely stretched with a clumsy method that expanded the even and odd fields separately.

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I've been running some more tests with "Summer of Love". I find that when working with the maximum bitrate files and outputting to 480p only, the results are decent for close and medium shots -- but the wide shots are like watercolour paintings when watching them on a 55 inch TV. I'm running another upscale right now to add on a very high amount of AI film grain. This adds a lot of 'static' to the shots, but it adds some weight to the wide shots while being consistent across the entire file.

One thing about Topaz AI's latest update: the setting to make the AI film grain small seems to have been deleted. AI film grain is now medium, large and extra large. I may have to roll back to the previous Topaz version so as to make the grain finer and less like static.

One other flaw in my previous methodology: I would often look at the upscale results on my monitor and think they looked good only to find later when watching them on my living room TV that they didn't look good after all, so I'm not calling anything 'done' until I've watched a significant portion of the episode in my living room.

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SUPERGIRL's Season 1 finale... had a little more money than the two bottle episodes before it, but not that much. The superpowered fight scenes are still a bit minimal, with most of the money going to Supergirl throwing the giant Kryptonian prison into space.

I'll have more to say about it later, but I will note how darkly amusing it is: at the end of episode, the entire DEO thanks Supergirl for saving their lives. We're never going to see any of these extras or anonymous DEO Agent #3s again once the show moves to Vancouver.

At the end of the episode, Maxwell Lord has a sinister moment where he hands over the Myriad mind control components to General Sam Lane; we're never going to see Maxwell Lord again and Sam Lane's next appearance is as an alternate on SUPERMAN AND LOIS and Myriad will return in Lena's hands.

At the end of the episode, J'onn J'onzz says he intends to work with Lucy Lane to run the DEO; we're never going to see this Lucy again, only her alternate on SUPERMAN AND LOIS.

At the end of the episode, Kara gets a new office; this office didn't make the move to Vancouver. Kara will be back in the bullpen next season.

At the end of the episode, Alex vows that she will find Jeremiah Danvers (Dean Cain); that's not going to turn out well onscreen or in real life.

At the end of the episode, Jimmy and Kara kiss; this gets instantly deep sixed in Season 2 and the show never refers to it again like they're embarrassed about it.

Well. I guess it could be worse. At least nobody got shot and exploded after getting their brain sucked out.

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Well, the main production problem with SUPERGIRL on CBS: CBS budgeted for a Los Angeles tax credit that, for some reason, didn't come through. The show had been spending like it was Season 3 of SLIDERS on a lavish FOX budget only to abruptly discover it was actually Season 5 of SLIDERS on a shoestring Sci-Fi Channel budget. Production was suddenly underfunded. They finished the season, but it was financially impossible to stay in Los Angeles.

I'm not sure any level of ratings success would have allowed CBS to fund this Los Angeles-filmed show without the LA tax credit. And I can't see CBS funding a Vancouver-filmed version of SUPERGIRL because CBS requires a certain level of ad sales to make a show worth their investment, and SUPERGIRL could not command that level of ad sales and would have had to start charging less.

I guess, if SUPERGIRL had gotten its tax break and had huge ratings, CBS could have kept it. Cat Grant and Maxwell Lord would have stayed in the show because Callista Flockhart and Peter Facinelli wouldn't have been facing a move to Vancouver.

Mechad Brooks was not happy playing Jimmy Olsen and was ready to quit after Season 1. He didn't think Jimmy had much to do, didn't think he had any romantic chemistry with Benoist. Production didn't wish to keep him against his will and was willing to release him from his contract. However, the move to Vancouver made Brooks decide to give the show another chance; it's likely that Season 2 would have had Brooks written out by request if it had stayed in LA.

I'm not sure SUPERGIRL could have participated in crossovers beyond Arrowverse stars guest-starring in individual episodes of SUPERGIRL if it had stayed on CBS. "World's Finest" was very difficult to film because Grant Gustin would have had to fly from Vancouver to Los Angeles and film within a tight window before being flown back to Vancouver for THE FLASH. It would not have been feasible to regularly fly the stars of ARROW and FLASH between LA and Vancouver more than once a year.

I don't think Alex would have been gay in a CBS version of the second season because the first season was clearly pairing Alex up with Maxwell Lord and Peter Facinelli's departure opened other doors for Alex that led to her coming out.

A CBS version of SUPERGIRL would have maintained a very high budget and probably been only a few steps behind the visuals we get in SUPERMAN AND LOIS rather than the artful speed-blurring of the CW version of SUPERGIRL.

We may still have gotten Chris Wood as Mon-El as the actor is LA based, but I don't know if we would have gotten Katie McGrath as Lena Luthor. There was certainly interest in the Lena Luthor character, but the presence of one somewhat amoral technology industrialist (Lord) may have made Lena Luthor unnecessary; Lena may have been cast more as an outright villain to contrast with Lord merely being egotistical but decent (ah, very, very, very deep down). They may have cast Lena differently and probably not promoted her to a regular role.

I don't know if we would have gotten Tyler Hoechlin as Superman. While Hoechlin works in Los Angeles and Vancouver, the addition of Superman to SUPERGIRL appears to have been due to WB wanting to give CW reason to take on a show that CBS had found untenable. The ability for the CW to market SUPERGIRL as featuring a newly cast Superman (and at a far lower rate than expected) made SUPERGIRL extremely attractive to the CW network.

I can't see this happening if SUPERGIRL had stayed on CBS; a WB would have demanded a huge licensing fee for CBS' SUPERGIRL to feature Superman and SUPERGIRL was making do with CG models and body doubles filmed at a distance.

I don't know if SUPERGIRL could have ever become a big hit. I love Supergirl, but fairly or unfairly, Supergirl is seen as a derivative character who is always adjacent to Superman. Any SUPERGIRL TV show feels like a spinoff to a SUPERMAN television series even if Superman at the time did not have his own TV show.

Fairly or unfairly, Supergirl is not a cultural icon like Superman. Superman is a global phenomenon, a media giant, a multimarket empire of films, shows, stageplays, musicals, novels, radio shows, action figures, costumes, and toys. Supergirl is his cousin and Supergirl is a fundamentally niche property. While FRASIER became independent from CHEERS, the name "Supergirl" forever defines Kara as adjacent to Clark Kent. There's a bit of a glass ceiling on Supergirl as a character.

Fairly or unfairly, there was always going to be the sense that the SUPERGIRL television show existed because Berlanti Productions couldn't get the TV rights to Superman. And that only changed in 2020 when the DC film division got stalled on doing any more movies with Henry Cavill and WB decided that the Superman license might as well be bringing in some more revenue on TV since it wasn't bringing any from movie theatres.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

I wonder if some of this relates to comments I've made here in the past about some of the season 1 episodes looking a lot worse than others?

Judging from what pneumatic has said, Universal's home video department converted the Season 1 analog video tapes into DVD with a primitive anti-flicker method for interlaced video, designed to make the image more attractive on CRT televisions. The diode pattern of a CRT TV would likely hide these flaws, but when these DVDs and digital files are played on modern LCD televisions, there are problems.

You see jagged edge throughout Season 1 episodes for straight lines (signs, furniture, buildings, cars) and the horizontal lines across the opening titles and the credits. This distortion in the even-odd fields of interlaced DVD video are now part of the digital NTSC masters that Universal delivers to home video distributors and streaming services.

pneumatic wrote:

Well the 2013 Via Vision PAL DVD is highly disappointing.  In terms of clarity and colour it's about half way between Mill Creek NTSC and Universal NTSC. 

Clarity and colour seems closer to the Universal NTSC release than Mill Creek, but there is another huge issue with the PAL version - the frame rate is inconsistent.  Most of the scenes are sped up to 25p - this would have been fine as it's easy to slow back down to 23.976 in realtime with Avisynth using AssumeFPS(24000, 1001, true) - however many scenes for some inexplicable reason were done at 24p frameblended to 50i, so there is no possibility of detelecining these scenes, and there are a fair few of them.   It sounds like they didn't pitch correct the 25p sections either so the actor's voices get noticeably deeper on those scenes.

I'm sorry to hear your PAL DVDs aren't good. I have the German Turbine blu-ray set which uses the standard definition PAL files. Season 1 looks very blurry, worse than Universal, but without the combing artifacts. Even the Turbine Pilot, which looks amazing on the Universal DVD, is blurry. Probably, Season 1 was stored on non-digital, analog videotape and stretched to the PAL resolution.

Season 2 looks good with heavy film grain texture. Season 3 looks very good with a very crisp visual quality. Seasons 4 - 5 look excellent.

I also have the Universal Dual Dimension Set (Seasons 1 - 2) and the Universal Season 3 set. I find that the Universal version of the pilot is beautiful, but the next eight episodes are blurry and filled with combing issues. Seasons 2 - 3 look good but a slight step down from the Turbine versions.

Oddly, I find that the Mill Creek versions of Seasons 4 and 5 look good despite the compression (although the Turbine versions look great). This is probably because Seasons 4 - 5 were shot on cheaper 16mm film which has larger image forming grains that could survive videotape transfer and DVD compression more capably than 35mm film.

Also oddly: the SD blu-ray versions of Season 1 look very good on my TV and blu-ray player. My TV was increasing the pixel contrast, deepening the colour. This and the lack of jagged edges made the blu-ray look a lot better than the DVDs. Only when looking at the raw files on my computer did I see the blurriness of the Season 1 blu-ray image quality.

The Universal versions of Season 1, despite the field errors, have a lot more texture and detail (although it's still quite low).

I found that the blu-ray versions of Seasons 2 - 5 are excellent for Topaz AI to upscale to 720p and 1080p results thanks to the high levels of film grain needed for an AI to rebuild a video image at a higher resolution.

I have never seen the VIA Vision files, so I can't speak to how that distributor may have messed up the PAL masters or if those same flaws are in the Turbine SD blu-ray.

I'm currently running a new round of upscales for Episodes 1.02 - 1.09.

In the past, I think the main issue for 1.02 - 1.09 has been combing errors. In my first AI upscaling attempt, the jagged edges on any straight lines (signs, furniture) would get stretched out and distorted and appear and disappear. It was visually distracting. And the video quality under these distortions was extremely muddy, almost like a watercolour painting.

In my second attempt, I found that while the detelecine setting smoothed out these lines, the smoothing was also creating a blurriness across those detelecined surfaces. The AI upscaler couldn't sharpen the image effectively, and stretching the video to 1080p gave everything a painfully waxy look that no amount of AI grain could offset.

In my third attempt, I tried having the AI upscaling leave the files at 480p, and then used Lanczos to stretch the upscaled 480p image to 1080p. The results were a little less waxy than before, but not by much.

However, I think I may have been muddying the DVD files. I was converting the files from DVD VOB files to MKV with MakeMKV followed by using Handbrake to detelecine the files and get them to h.264 MP4 and then using AVIDemux to increase the colour saturation. During all these conversions, I set the bit rate to Super HQ which was a bit below the Production Max preset.

At the time, I thought it wouldn't make any difference to create 1GB SuperHQ files instead of 2.5GB Production Max files. Certainly, it made no visible difference for Season 2 - 5 video files.

But since then, I've been comparing SuperHQ and Production Max transcodes of the Universal files... and the Production Max transcodes have just a little more texture and detail (although it's still not much). I think my conversion methods (Handbrake encoding at the Super-HQ preset) reduced image quality in video files that didn't have much margin for loss.

For my new attempt, I'm having Handbrake detelecine and output at the Production Max preset. The Production Max files are 2.5GB per episode. I'm then having AVIDemux add colour and save at the Lossless HQ preset. It's giving me files that are 7 - 9GB per episode.

These files still look rather hazy and undetailed; I don't think they can be upscaled to a higher resolution.

I'm currently running the files through Topaz AI, but I'm setting Topaz to only output 480p files. It's possible that Topaz AI can refine the 480p image to deblur the fuzziness, sharpen up the textures, apply AI grain to offset the lack of the detail, and get the episodes to passable DVD quality and look almost as good as Season 2 on the Universal discs.

Right now, the 'best' video quality for Episodes 1.02 - 1.09 is on the Universal discs and that quality is poor. I would like to get it looking okay, even if it would only rest on my hard drive.

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Continuing my rewatch of SUPERGIRL. It's pretty obvious that once Cat Grant surmises that Kara is Supergirl, she isn't actually fooled by J'onn J'onzz impersonating Supergirl to meet Kara in Cat's presence. Cat becomes far more sympathetic and encouraging to Kara and Supergirl afterwards.

The peculiar duplication of SUPERGIRL is... strangely not as irksome as on a first viewing. When watching the original broadcasts, it was bizarre that Kara Danvers was a junior intern and a high ranked secret agent of a federal emergency bureau; a superhero with a secret identity that was only a secret to Cat Grant; a nervous bookworm and an hardy warrior, etc..

On a second viewing... From a characterization standpoint, however, it works that Kara has both a capable soldier and a nervously naive girl inside her.  But practically, Kara's civilian job as an assistant, while making Kara more 'normal', seems like a complete waste of time; Kara flat out dismisses her assistant job in the pilot as not being worth her time.

And yet, the Catco setting has become such a fixture of SUPERGIRL after six seasons that when rewatching Season 1, Catco feels warmly familiar. It'd be weird if it weren't there now in this rewatch.

SUPERGIRL was reportedly having budget problems in the latter half of the first season. I personally found the episode budgets pretty lavish and extensive until episode 18, "World's Finest" when Grant Gustin appeared as Barry Allen and then half the budget seemed to disappear in the Flash's wake.

With "World's Finest", fight scenes suddenly seem to be missing critical effects shots, coverage of fight scenes is strangely missing with the heroes and villains filmed in separate and isolated shots, key moments of physical interaction oddly missing.

A fight scene inexplicably cuts off with the Flash and Supergirl firing wind at the enemies; then we cut away to the Flash and Supergirl having inexplicably fled the scene, running away from the supervillains they were trying to catch. A key moment has firemen saving the Flash and Supergirl; we never see the firemen arrive and they're obviously not in the wide shots. The producers remarked that the budget issues were manifesting earlier with villains constantly confronting Kara in her apartment set, but there were a lot of intense outdoor action sequences in the pre-"World's Finest" episodes. The money seemed to run out here.

Episode 19, "Myriad", the penultimate episode of Season 1, seems to be a bottle episode. The majority of the episode is set on standing sets (the Danvers house, Catco) or in a black void of nothing. Supergirl's flight avoids any extensive wire work in favour of filming Melissa Benoist from the chest up, and the only costly action is J'onn and Indigo having a fight in a parking lot.

The episode works really well to build drama and to assert that violence isn't an effective solution towards the mind control of Myriad, but after "World's Finest" couldn't seem to pay for a complete fight scene in Episode 18, the avoidance of superpowered scenes in "Myriad" looks less like a writing choice and more like a budget shortfall.

I can't remember how well the finale went; I remember it being good, but I wonder if it suffered from the financial crisis that 18 and 19 seemed to experience.

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The Nerds of Color say that they misquoted Eric Wallace:

Eric Wallace:
It’s disappointing to me. But we just don’t have the bandwidth.

I had hoped that we’d have 20 episodes. My original concept was to have at least one — if not a two parter — that wrapped up LEGENDS OF TOMORROW. A little crossover: we get them back, we get them out of time jail, all these good things, Booster Gold.

When we found out we only had 13 episodes, that was no longer possible.

All the Legends at least are all going to appear in an episode.

https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2023/02/06/ … the-flash/

Since then, Nerds of Color posted an update to the article:

CORRECTION 2/7/2023, 6:05 PM: An earlier version of this article incorrectly quoted Mr. Wallace as saying “All the Legends [of Tomorrow] at least are all going to appear in an episode.” There is no confirmation of all the Legends returning in The Flash.

I'm not sure how this incorrect quote somehow made it into the interview, I don't know how someone could mishear or mistranscribe that, but regardless, it has been withdrawn and it looks like no LEGENDS cast are booked at all for THE FLASH.

I have heard that Brandon Routh will be appearing on QUANTUM LEAP. Probably not playing Ray Palmer.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

The movie does look interesting.  And as Gunn has said, it should reset the Snyderverse into the DCU.  I don't know if I totally understand how that can be the case - and how some people might be recast and some might not.  But as much as Ezra Miller makes me want this movie to fail, I'm very intrigued by it and am looking forward to seeing it.

How did you feel about CRISIS on TV where Superman looks like Tyler Hoechlin and Brandon Routh and Tom Welling and for some reason, Superman also looks like Ray Palmer? How did you feel Barry Allen looking like both Ezra Miller and Grant Gustin? How did you feel about Alura Zor-El for some reason looking like Lois Lane?

How did you feel about SUPERMAN AND LOIS where Clark, Lois, Lucy Lane and Diggle look the same but Sam Lane and Morgan Edge have completely different personalities and faces?

CRISIS didn't even try to offer an explanation, but if you demanded that I give you one, I would stammeringly defer to the explanation given in the DOOMSDAY CLOCK comic book: the DC Universe in the comics is not a single universe or timeline; it is in fact a "metaverse", where every shift in the timeline of the DC metaverse and every past variant of the DC metaverse reverberates across existing and new parallel universes. The core metatemporal event that creates shifts in time: it's the arrival of Superman's pod on planet Earth, an event that is constantly moving forward in time, altering the past and the future.

In addition, since faces aren't consistent, we have to take that to mean that genetic expression in facial features is not totally consistent across universes. We've seen this peculiarity across the street at Marvel where Peter Parker looks like Tom Holland and Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire.

So why do some faces stay the same or manifest in totally different people?

It would seem: each new variant on the DC metaverse whether the Arrowverse or the Donner films or the DCEU or the SUPERMAN AND LOIS timeline will contain echoes of the previously existing universes. New DC universes are like coffee from a well-used coffeemaker. No matter how much you clean the machine or change the brand of beans, your coffeemaker will have mineral and bean residue from every previous cup you've ever brewed. These echoes manifest in events (the death of Thomas and Martha Wayne, the destruction of Krypton) and sometimes in faces (Ray Palmer/Clark Kent, Barry Allen/Henry Allen/Jay Garrick, Alura/Lois, Dinah Redmond/Beth Kane).

Since the Ezra Miller version of Barry Allen appeared in CRISIS, this phenomenon of echoes across parallel universes can reach the DCEU as well. This means that if the FLASH movie collapses and rebuilds time, it may be a feature echoes of past elements of the DCEU and new elements of the DC Gunnverse. The new Wonder Woman and Aquaman of the Gunnverse may look like Gal Gadot and Jason Momoa; the new Flash of the new universe may not look like Ezra Miller, the new Superman will not look like Henry Cavill.

Note that Wonder Woman and Aquaman's continuities don't seem to be entirely consistent between BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE (actual title), WONDER WOMAN, JUSTICE LEAGUE and AQUAMAN. BVSDOJ established that Wonder Woman separated herself from humanity after WWII; WONDER WOMAN ignores this. JUSTICE LEAGUE has Aquaman say he was abandoned by his mother; AQUAMAN shows she was kidnapped and presumed dead.

We also have two separate and contradictory versions of the events of JUSTICE LEAGUE, one in which the resurrection of Superman is a first step in the Darkseid invasion of Earth and Dr. Silas Stone is dead; one where the resurrection of Superman curtails the invasion of Earth through Lois Lane and Dr. Stone is alive and well.

These anomalies may, to the untrained observer, appear to be due to movie studio incompetence, but upon closer inspection, it would indicate that Ezra Miller's Barry Allen has been attempting to investigate his mother's death by using time travel and has been inadvertently splitting the timeline, creating alternate backstories and events that will eventually have to be reconciled with some overwriting others in order to restablilize the multiverse into a coherent core timeline.

This would appear to be James Gunn's perspective.

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Episode 1.02 of SUPERGIRL has a Kara/Alura fight scene that's incredibly close to some of Superman's fight scenes on SUPERMAN AND LOIS with intense use of superpowers (heat vision, freeze breath) and intense punching.

I think that SUPERGIRL's lightweight, romcom tone made the budget cuts for Season 2 easier to accept because even though SUPERGIRL had some intense superpowered physicality, it was really about the characters and their relationships and less about the spectacle.

Also, as I recall, the failure to acquire an LA tax credit meant that the show was hit by severe budget issues in the second half of the season, so the downturn of the visuals actually started in Season 1 which probably softened the blow of Season 2 having even less money.

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I went back to the Season 1 SUPERGIRL premiere and... wow, this is a significantly different show in some subtle but distinct ways.

The budget of Season 1's earlier episodes is clearly higher. There is a lot more outdoor location filming in Los Angeles than in the Vancouver years. Supergirl has fight scenes outdoors in desert locations and on highways instead of inside factories/studio sets with generic pipeworks).

Flight is more in evidence: there's more effort to have Supergirl hovering in combat and in various scenes where the later seasons mostly had flight being a method of transport. Overall, the effects budget is clearly 2 - 3 times more than the CW seasons: there are hyperdetailed renderings of Supergirl saving a plane rather than the motion blur minimalism of Seasons 2 - 5 for such scenes. In addition, the DEO and Catco are filled with 50 - 100 extras whereas the CW scenes would have maybe 10 - 20.

Funnily enough: Seasons 2 - 5 were constantly coming up with silly psychological excuses for why J'onn J'onzz and other Martians were affecting a human appearance and why J'onn's memories of Mars always had the Martians looking human. Season 1 was probably the only time the show would have had the resources to make heavy use of the computer generated martians.

The main distinction is the performances. Melissa Benoist's Kara is played so young in the pilot. Kara is unsteady, insecure, shaky, hot tempered, a little unstable. I recall that by the start of Season 2, Kara had become a more seasoned relief worker with an easy self-confidence and the hyperactive neuroticism would only come out in comedy scenes. Benoist plays Season 1 Kara like a teenaged girl, but starting in Season 2, Benoist began transitioning to playing Kara with more maturity and Kara by Season 3 is finally a grown-ass woman.

Strangely, Alex is the least different. Chyler Leigh found Alex's hyperconfident demeanor pretty early on in the pilot. The only distinction: for some reason, the pilot strongly highlights that Alex is a biologist with expertise in alien biology and microbiology, but the show never really used Alex's scientific background much.

For the most part, Alex is played as a master tactician, a cunning warrior, a brilliant strategist, more Maggie Beckett than Quinn Mallory (or, if you prefer, more Sara Lance than Dr. Caitlin Snow). Instead, Lena Luthor would become the scientist on the show and Alex's scientific skills would be abandoned in favour of her combat skills. Alex is the soldier while Kara is a firefighter.

The one thing that is a complete disaster, that does not work at all... it's absurd for James Olsen to be telling Kara that Superman is proud of her, for James to be handing over a cape on Superman's behalf. It makes absolutely no sense that Clark is using Jimmy as an intermediary like Superman would be afraid to talk to his cousin in person and has to hide behind a friend.

I'm not sure how this could have been different as the WB licensing department would not grant SUPERGIRL the right to use Superman and have him on camera until Season 2. However, Tyler Hoechlin's appearances as Superman in Season 2 make the absent Superman of Season 1 look ridiculous.

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Despite supervillain Ezra Miller's best efforts, THE FLASH movie trailer is out:
https://youtu.be/9vwaD9cHLNw

Let us take a moment to appreciate how this movie was announced before Season 1 of THE FLASH television show and will now make it to theatres after the Season 9 series finale of THE FLASH. Temporal Flux once theorized that WB would try to kill the Flash TV show to try to prop up a Flash movie, but Grant Gustin's Flash outran anything Ezra Miller could throw at him.

Well, when my external blu-ray cable arrives (the old one broke), I'm going to recopy 1.02 - 1.09 from the Universal discs, run them through detelecine to produce h.264 files at 480p, and see if the latest version of Topaz video can clean them up at 480p and at least get a decent SD image. The Universal episodes aren't clear enough to bring them to even 720p, but I would like to get them looking at least as good as the Universal versions of Season 2. It's a cultural injustice that "The Breeder" looks so crisp and sharp while "Eggheads" is a blurry mess.

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FLASH's Season 9 premiere was okay. Some good character work with Iris disliking how her future is entirely too known to her and being irritated with Barry wanting Iris to follow every hint of the future to the point of everything being obnoxiously predestined and controlled. FLASH notes that the show has always been about Barry's mysterious future whether it was CRISIS or Nora 1.0 or Nora 2.0 and Bart and how that can become extremely trying on Iris trying to live in the now. Some good jokes. Some nice character beats in Barry and Iris' marriage.

It was nice. It was fine.

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And back to my rewatch: the Season 6 premiere of SUPERGIRL has Supergirl cut a deal with Lex: she demands that he cease his attempt to eradicate 50 percent of the global population. Supergirl says, "I'll give you what you've always wanted. Me. I think your obsession with me outweighs your desire to kill half the world."

... this doesn't make sense. In Season 4, Episode 15, the episode's cliffhanger is Lex in a helicopter and Supergirl entering his flight path. "We meet at last," Lex remarks, establishing that Lex and Supergirl have never met, never had a conflict involving each other.

Throughout Season 4, Lex loathes Supergirl the way he hates any Kryptonian, and he sees her as a pawn to stage an assault on America (via Red Daughter) and take credit for foiling it, but at no point has Lex ever obsessed over Supergirl or wanted to possess her or defeat her in the intensely personal manner in which he hates and despises Superman. Superman is established as a threat to Lex's ego; Lex wanted to be seen as the world's saviour. Supergirl, while terrific, is seen by the world as young, inexperienced, naive, well-intentioned, powerful but hardly on Superman's level. Supergirl is a junior superhero still.

Lex hates Supergirl the way I hate cryptocurrency; I dislike it on principle, but I'm hardly obsessed with anyone in crypto. The show tries to note that Lex is obsessed with showing up Kryptonians in general, but SUPERGIRL's "Rebirth" dialogue positions that as an obsession specific to Kara and... it just plays oddly. It's not the first peculiar note for Lex in Season 6.

Still, given the circumstances in which this episode was cobbled together (portions filmed in a previous season, trying to finish it under COVID protocols with no access to a pregnant and absent Melissa Benoist), I'm surprised it holds together as well as it does.

Why don't the lines show in my detelecined S1 files during playback on my Android TV box? My guess is that it's some combination of the player app or the SoC in the Android TV box.

You're clearly in a position of superior knowledge despite self-identifying as an amateur, so let me ask you: looking at even the transcodes of the S1 discs --

What went wrong with Universal's home video department when they handled SLIDERS? Why are there so many combing artifacts and double line artifacts? Why is the video quality ghastly for the S1 episodes but excellent for the Pilot, pretty good for Season 2 and really good for S3 - S5? I have my theories, but what are yours?

Why is the file quality even worse in the Mill Creek version? What would you suggest for correcting the errors in the Universal discs?

Also, as someone who knows more than I do: would you have any suggestions for cleaning up these files and engaging in AI upscaling for Episodes 1.02 - 1.09?

I'm glad you found your discs. It would be interesting to know if the PAL versions of the Universal DVD releases are any better or worse than the NTSC DVD or the German PAL-masters on the SD blu-ray.

The SD blu-ray release had very poor video quality Season 1 (including the pilot), worse than NTSC Universal, but the SD blu-ray looked absolutely terrific for Seasons 2 - 5. Season 2 is a little fuzzy and heavily grainy, but it looks rather nice at living room distance and the film grain texture allowed for terrific looking AI upscales. Seasons 3 - 5 look great in that you have razor sharpness for all the god-awful Season 3 monsters and pathetic Season 4 Kromagg makeup and tedious conversations of Season 5.

Of course, that's my perspective from my amateur eyes and you are clearly a well-informed video maven as opposed to some guy messing around in Handbrake and Topaz for a half-hour before queuing up the jobs and going to bed.

It's good to have an expert looking at this. Where did you acquire your knowledge of video processing?

Hmm. I can see what you've screencapped when I hit pause on the detelecined file, but I don't seem to see it when the video file is actually playing on my Android TV box.

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While Cleavant Derricks is always nice to fans, I'm afraid no individual actor or even series creator can make a SLIDERS revival happen. It has to start with NBCUniversal and... they seem hesitant, especially after SAVED BY THE BELL and PUNKY BREWSTER revivals didn't set the world on fire. Their streaming service is currently losing 2.5 billion dollars USD a year.

If you would like to get back to Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo after Season 5 and don't mind fan fiction, here are some options.

Slide Effects
Quinn Mallory wakes up to find himself home. In fact, it's like he never left. Time has been rewound to the Pilot and the original quartet is alive and well. Wade's working at Doppler Computers, Arturo is teaching, Rembrandt is working on his career and only Quinn remembers sliding and all their adventures.

Haunted by memories that no one else shares, Quinn must find out if he's losing his mind or if something else has gone terribly wrong...

This story from series co-creator Tracy Torme is set after the events of "The Seer."
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11KF … np7yA/edit

Sliders Reborn
Twenty years after the first slide, Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo must step back into the vortex and begin their adventures once again.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1awJ … NyBNI/edit

That said, SLIDERS in the alternate medium of digital type in prose and screenplay isn't for everyone.