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I'm relieved Slider_Quinn21 got his booster. I... don't know if I should have gotten the bivalent booster.

They made me sign a waiver at the pharmacy noting that the usual schedule for a booster was six months between doses and that I was getting my fifth dose a mere 3.5 months after my fourth. I explained that with new variants coming, prevailing public health advice was to get a booster ASAP and not to wait for the longer interval. With winter fast approaching, it seemed best to get quintuple boosted. But I was warned that I wouldn't get as strong an immune response without waiting the full six months.

Previous vaccinations and boosters have taken me out of action for seven days. This fifth dose took me out for... two days. Does that mean it's not as effective?

Also, the booster I got was the BA.1 version whereas the current booster that SQ21 probably got is on BA.4 and BA.5 Omicron variants which should mount a more targeted defense against the newer strains.

It may have been more to my advantage to wait to the 4 - 4.5 month mark and get the BA.4/BA.5 booster then. Hopefully, we won't have to find out, and as of now, I'm comfortable waiting until April 2023 for my sixth dose.

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I have just had to settle and compromise when it comes to masks.

My mother's been tough to mask. She has a very flat nose bridge. Most masks don't seal well on her face; they hang half an inch off her face at the top, they leave huge gaps. Only the Kleannara KF94 boat shaped mask (98 percent filtration) and the Delcure KF94 bifold sit well. Delcure's been hard to find lately. Kleannara has been plentiful, but there's another problem: in the summer, she says she can't breathe through a Kleannara due to hot air. This four layer mask (water resistant layer, meltblown electrostatic layer, structural layer, skin friendly layer) is too thick for her, hot air gets hotter passing through this thick layer and she can't breathe enough.

In the past few summers, I've settled for having her wear ASTM Level 1 surgical masks. She found the three layers (fluid resistant/electrostatic/skin friendly) breathable. They left gaps at the nose and on the sides because they're a 2D shape for a 3D face. But with cordlocks to tighten up the earloops... well, the side gaps were gone, but there was still a bit of a gap on the sides of her nose.

I told myself that the gaps were mostly sealed and that she'd be fine with the 95 per cent filtration of ASTM L1... but I suspect that was wishful thinking. Most surgical masks, due to the gaps at the cheeks and around the nose, filter around 60 percent of particles due to the leakage. Likely, the surgical was filtering maybe 70 - 75 per cent with the gaps around the nose. It wasn't ideal, but it was the mask that my mother was able to wear from June to September. But it still worried me.

In 2020, Korea temporarily banned exports of KF94 masks. The company Air Queen started manufacturing a "nano"
a boat-shaped, KF94 style mask for international sale, but they didn't submit it for KF94 approval and didn't use KF94 materials. The Nano doesn't use electrostatic material to catch particles. Instead, the Air Queen Nano uses nanofiber material that is thin but densely interwoven to catch incoming particles; a net as opposed to a magnet.

The Air Queen Nano is thinner than KF94s and even surgicals and the company boasted 97 per cent particle filtration. Actual tests from mask experts, however, revealed that the Air Queen Nano actually filtered 87 - 90 percent, a bit lower than the average 98 percent filtration of KF94s and the 99.9 percent filtration of an N95. In 2020, with N95s expensive and rare and KN95s unreliable and with the most common mask being non-filtering cotton cloth, the Air Queen seemed like a godsend. In 2022, I find it inadequate and ridiculously overpriced ($1.20 - $2.50 USD per mask when you can get a KF94 for 75 cents each).

But, worried about summer in eight months' time, I bought a small quantity of Air Queen Nano masks and... they fit my mother's face really well, just as well as the Kleannara. And they feel as thin as Kleenex. My mother will find it  breathable in the summer. The lack of gap around the nose thanks to the boat shape means it seals better than the surgical ever could. But the Air Queen Nano filters 87 - 90 percent, a drop from the Kleannara KF94 filtering 98 percent.

I've bought my mother enough Air Queen Nanos for the summer. These are her summer masks now. They're not the best and I would never wear one myself or encourage anyone to buy them... but they're the best that my mother can wear.

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The Jodie Whittaker and Chris Chibnall era ends with... a very okay episode. "The Power of the Doctor" was fine.

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An Action Writer Writing a Woman of Inaction
I think what sums up Chibnall for me: he's an action writer. He writes stories driven by fight scenes. This is fine if you're writing MACGYVER, SUPERNATURAL or even SLIDERS; it's a serious handicap when writing post-2005 era DOCTOR WHO. Since 1985, the Doctor has generally been a science hero who outthinks and outsmarts villains; the more violent versions of the character haven't been around for decades.

Chibnall clearly thinks it's inappropriate to have the Doctor throwing punches or firing guns except in isolated circumstances. Therefore, Chibnall... generally has the Doctor standing by while her allies fight because the Doctor is immobilized or passively present; alternatively, the Doctor's passivity leaves her overpowered and defeated until other characters rescue her.

Passive Pacificism
The Doctor -- and the sliders -- can be difficult to write. Even the great Tracy Torme struggled and sometimes flat out failed. "Luck of the Draw" from Jon Povill has the sliders using cleverness to escape and defeat their antagonists, but immediately with the next episode, "Into the Mystic", Torme's script has Rembrandt wielding a shotgun while Arturo attacks and overpowers sorcerers and security guards.

Russell T. Davies had the Ninth Doctor often stand around while guest stars sacrificed themselves to resolve the episode. He clearly regretted this because the Tenth Doctor was far more prone to using machinery and technobabble to remove enemies. The Tenth Doctor using a gun in his finale episode was presented as a moment of severe wrongness. The Eleventh and Twelfth Doctors were much the same except Steven Moffat was better at establishing his machinery and technobabble earlier in the story to deploy at the end.

Why not write a more aggressive Doctor?
Chibnall doesn't write the Doctor's pacifism effectively; in Chibnall's hands, pacifism is passivity. Chibnall is clearly more comfortable writing the Fugitive Doctor because the Fugitive Doctor is prepared to use violence while the Thirteenth Doctor won't.

The thing is, while most-2005 and onward fans know the Doctor as a pacifist, that's not the case for all Doctors. The Third Doctor was a gentleman spy who used martial arts. The Fourth Doctor did not hesitate to use violence but found it distasteful and grim, preferring humour and charm. The Sixth Doctor was downright aggressive against enemies.

The First Doctor was originally prone to fisticuffs until his characterization became more grandfatherly; the Second Doctor was a trickster, the Fifth Doctor was a non-violent diplomat, the Seventh Doctor was a master manipulator who used indirect means, the Eighth Doctor was a non-violent improviser, and aside from the War Doctor, Doctors Nine through Twelve were generally pacifistic except for the Twelfth throwing one angry punch in one episode.

Chibnall could have absolutely made the Thirteenth Doctor more like the Third, Fourth and Sixth Doctors, prepared to use weapons and martial arts.

Chibnall is clearly more comfortable writing the Fugitive Doctor, a Doctor who grabs weapons, punches enemies, tricks villains into shooting themselves. Chibnall wouldn't write Jodie Whittaker in the same vein.

Sugar and Spice and Everything Nice?
Did he feel too tied to the more recent presentations of the Doctor as a non-violent thinker? Did he feel Jodie Whittaker's presence was mismatched to more aggressive action and occasionally deadly intent?

Did he think the first female Doctor needed to represent women as non-violent and vulnerable and nice as opposed to hard-edged and combat ready?

For whatever reason, Chibnall chose a Doctor-character template that just wasn't in his skillset. Chibnall is not the sort of writer who comes up with impossible circumstances and then drops the Doctor/Quinn/Arturo into the situation and lets them piledrive through the problems.

Chibnall is a procedural screenwriter who creates problems and devises solutions within a formula that is resembles a cop show (BROADCHURCH) or a science fiction action show like STAR TREK. Chibnall's stories need his hero to use force and violence; he wouldn't do that with the Thirteenth Doctor and it clearly crippled him.

Vague Niceness
Chibnall's Doctor was thinly defined. In the finale, characters talk about how the Thirteenth Doctor is strong and heroic, Jodie Whittaker's performance seems to think that she is. But the Thirteenth Doctor is defined by standing around while the plot happens.

I can't imagine Matt Smith sitting in a cell waiting to be rescued by Captain Jack, but that seems to be Thirteen's defining moment. And because the Thirteenth Doctor was so vague and contradictory, none of the companions ever solidified.

Ryan, Graham and Yaz were simply scene partners for the Doctor to address and explain the plot; aside from Ryan being informal, Graham being older and Yaz being female, none of them cohered as personalities. When the Doctor has no identity, the companions have no clear purpose in how to support that identity. In contrast, the Eleventh Doctor was a childish goofball while Amy and Clara were ball busters; the Fourth Doctor was madcap while Romana was calm; the Ninth Doctor was tormented while Rose was passionate.

The Thirteenth Doctor was just vaguely nice -- which, I guess, brought us to a Thirteenth Doctor finale where she is incapacitated and has to be bailed out by the First, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Doctors.

Why these Doctors?
There is no particular in-story reason why the First, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Doctors show up as opposed any of the others. From a writing standpoint, one would think that the Thirteenth Doctor's psyche would be populated by the nicest, gentlest Doctors: the Second, Fifth, Seventh, Eighth and Eleventh.

Alternatively, the Thirteenth Doctor would be confronted by the aggressive sides of her character that she'd set aside: the First, Fourth and Sixth as well as the War Doctor and the Ninth and Tenth Doctor.

A more artful writer would recognize that the actors available were David Bradley, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann -- and find a psychological rationale. The First Doctor could be the Doctor's wanderlust, telling the Thirteenth Doctor that she has so much more to see. The Fifth could be the conscience, saying the Doctor can't allow her body to be misused and must fight even if fighting to lose. The Sixth could be the determination, urging the Doctor hold steady and wait for a chance. The Seventh is the strategist, crafting a plan. The Eighth is the Doctor's love for life and friendship, telling the Doctor that she won't be ready to let go until she sees Yaz one more time.

Instead, all the characters get nicely Doctorish dialogue that could have been delivered by any Doctor. Colin Baker, the meanest of the Doctors, is written to be as gentle as soft-spoken Peter Davison! (Admittedly, the Colin Baker is indeed the nicest one.) Chibnall is a professional who does a professional's job, but he doesn't capitalize on the opportunities he has.

Loveless
Another missed chance: Chibnall nonsensicially waited two episodes before the Thirteenth Doctor was leaving to address Yaz having romantic feelings for the Doctor and the Doctor feeling the same way but choosing not to pursue it because Yaz would age and die and the Doctor would regenerate.

The finale does a rather sweet job of handling this undercooked plot, however, with Yaz silently loving the Doctor and mourning this version of her and choosing to leave before the Doctor she loves becomes a new version, but Chibnall's undercooked, underdeveloped characterization remains a sore point. It's still baffling to me that Yaz and the Thirteenth Doctor have been on this show since 2018 and that Chibnall waited until 2022 to acknowledge the romantic tension.

Good Enough/Mediocre
Chibnall did a decent job with the Fifth Doctor (Peter Davison) and Tegan (Janet Fielding) having a last conversation. Chibnall also did a very nice job with a small exchange between the Seventh Doctor (Sylvester McCoy) and Ace (Sophie Aldred). Chibnall flat out contradicts the one audioplay featuring Davison and Fielding as their characters reuniting in 2006 and the one novel written by Sophie Aldred where Ace met the Thirteenth Doctor, Graham and Yaz. This is understandable as the majority of viewers aren't familiar with "The Gathering" audioplay or the "At Childhood's End" novel.

Functional
Ultimately, "The Power of the Doctor" is a functional, professional, adequate story with some pleasant moments where the Thirteenth Doctor is a passive passenger in her own story and where every chance for drama is mined professionally but minimally with a very moderate, adequate, unspectacular level of drama or humour. It's mildly enjoyable and sufficiently diverting, but the most memorable and gripping moment is at the end when Jodie Whittaker dies and regenerates, only to find she's somehow become David Tennant again for reasons unknown.

The Ending Wasn't Chibnall
Tellingly, this massive shock had nothing to do with Chris Chibnall. When Chibnall scripted "The Power of the Doctor", there was no word as to who would be the next showrunner or if there would be another season; it was unlikely the BBC would cancel DOCTOR WHO, but it was possible that anywhere from 1 - 3 years would pass before the show would return. Chibnall ended his script with the Thirteenth Doctor regenerating; incoming showrunner Russell T. Davies scripted the next page with the Fourteenth Doctor astonished to find he's somehow become the Tenth.

It's rather revealing that most significant development of Chris Chibnall's finale episode was the one page Chris Chibnall didn't write.

Hilariously, in the Pilot commentary, Torme and Weiss keep referring to six seasons too!

FROM SCRATCH is not about Tembi Locke's acting career. It's about how her life fell apart when her husband died and she and her seven year old daughter had to rebuild themselves "from scratch". Honestly, I think to Tembi Locke, SLIDERS was like that year I spent manning the cash register at a comic book store.

I had a fun time and enjoyed a lot of science fiction, but it's never going to be as significant as the death of a life partner and the parent to my child and selling my own Netflix series as Locke has succeeded in doing.

Locke has been on several episodes of NEVER HAVE I EVER, a fun Netflix teen dramedy where Locke plays a super-supportive parent to a young girl who is terrified to come out as gay. Locke exudes warmth, patience and indulgence and it's a small role that Locke really infuses with life and charm.

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I'm going to try to watch along. DARK SKIES was heavily advertised on the Canadian SPACE sci-fi channel with a neat trailer of someone intoning, "History is a lie," but I was never awake or at home to watch it. I bought the DVD set awhile ago, though, and the video quality is really impressive and the soft focus look scales perfectly to a 4K TV. I haven't watched the episodes yet, though, only fast forwarded through random episodes to check out the video quality.

No news is... no news.

At this point, none of the actors are contracted to return. Season 3 took so long to film and edit due to the pandemic that all extension options for Season 4 would have expired by now. Since Disney+ and Hulu don't pay cast and crew to work on shows that aren't in production, everyone is doing other work now.

However, Seth MacFarlane has given his word that if ORVILLE is renewed, he will work it into his schedule and the other actors are keen to return if Season 4 can be scheduled after the jobs they are doing now to earn a living. This is most unlike SLIDERS where the second Jerry's contract expired, he was out the door.

It could also be a situation where Disney+ and Hulu never actually cancel THE ORVILLE but also never renew it, much like FOX never cancelling THE X-FILES after the 2018 season but never ordering Season 12.

Usually, networks and streamers announce cancellations so that cast and crew contracts can be closed and concluded, allowing the studio to cease paying staff to keep their schedules available and allowing employees on a now cancelled show to find other work.

But Disney+ and Hulu don't have to do that with THE ORVILLE because the Season 4 options in the cast and crew contracts have expired by now. THE X-FILES starting with Season 10 only signed David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson to one season at a time, so no cancellation notice was needed.

It's entirely possible that Disney+ and Hulu might never officially cancel THE ORVILLE and would simply never address it.

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This is what I'm seeing for Austin, Texas at https://www.austintexas.gov/covid19-vaccines :

18 and Older:

Booster: Updated (bivalent) booster at least 2 months after 2nd dose or last booster, and can be Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna.

I have to say, it feels a bit condescending for me to lecture you about your own home. Sorry. I owe you a Coke.

In my province (Ontario) in Canada, fourth doses weren't widely available until fall at which point the BA.1 bivalent was rolling out. I was able to get a fourth dose in June because I had signed up for the new Novavax dose (a protein based vaccine rather than mRNA), but the nurse switched it to Moderna at the appointment. (I would have taken the Novavax anyway.) I then got a fifth dose in October of the BA.1 bivalent, but there's now a BA.4 and BA.5 bivalent.

I was hesitant in early 2021 about going out again, but after two years and not having gotten COVID, I think it's pretty clear that electrostatic masks work and they work even if everyone around you isn't masked.

I find that most diligent maskers whose masks failed to protect them in 2020 - 2021 were unfortunately wearing cloth masks (which don't filter), cloth masks with insert filters (which don't cover the entire mask surface area) or surgical masks with unclosed gaps. Some people wore surgical masks under fashionable cloth masks and this worked because the firm seal of the cloth combined with the high filtration of the surgical... but I'd rather wear one good mask than two bad ones.

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I'm going to the movies! To see HALLOWEEN ENDS. In a densely packed cineplex.

After two years, I've read and absorbed enough on masking to feel confident in my precautions. In addition to five doses of Moderna, I'm wearing a well-sealed KF94 mask that fits to my face with no gaps. KF94 masks are tightly regulated by the Korean government with masks from each batch needing to be tested before sale. Factories that fail mask tests get fined and their products are destroyed. To meet the requirements, KF94 masks only need to filter 94 per cent; manufactures get them to 97 and higher to be sure to pass.

With a KF94, it's safe for me to go anywhere and be around anyone even if they're not masked. The KF94 is filtering 97 per cent in and out; I won't make anyone sick and no one will make me sick.

Yes, but is it canon... ?

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Really enjoying LOWER DECKS this season. Spoilers for Season 3, Episode 8, "Crisis Point 2: Paradoxus":














The transporter duplicate of Boimler fakes his death and joins Section 31 at which point he's handed the black Starfleet badge that Section 31 agents used in DISCOVERY (but not in ENTERPRISE or DEEP SPACE NINE).

BOIMLER: "Isn’t Section 31 supposed to be like a big secret? I mean why would we wear special comm badges that advertise who we are?"

SECTION 31 AGENT: "You could still be dead."

BOIMLER: "... you know, I like the badge. I like the badge!"

Hilarious wisecrack at DISCOVERY making Section 31 exist within Starfleet's chain of command sharing information with starship crew and taking orders from Starfleet Command when DEEP SPACE NINE had presented it as an officially non-existent, covert operation with the Federation pointedly ignoring its existence.

QUANTUM LEAP will make it to at least the end of the 2022 season with NBC having ordered another six episodes for a total of 18.

https://www.cbr.com/quantum-leap-reviva … dered-nbc/

Again, I haven't seen it, but when an at-least 'okay' TV show lives for another six weeks, we all win.

Chase is a talented performer. Another anecdote recently came to light, however: as we know, Chase was thrown off COMMUNITY in Season 4 for a racist incident. Paradoxically, Chase was protesting the racism of the scene where Pierce was using the offensive Mexican hand puppets. It's now been revealed: Chase started shouting that he was sick of Pierce's defining trait being racism and then howled, "Is he going to call her a 'N-----' next?" while gesturing at Yvette Nicole Brown.

Brown quietly turned away and walked towards the exit and informed a producer, "I am not coming back until that man is off the show."

A few hours later, security escorted Chase from the set. It was his last day filming with the entire cast. It clearly wasn't the first time he'd treated Brown like a prop defined by skin colour. It takes a rare talent to be opposing racism with a protest that is racist in itself.

He made a few appearances after that to wrap up his role which staff writer Andy Bobrow said was very difficult because (due to the unstated need to keep Chase away from Brown in the shooting schedule), they often didn't know if they would have Chase for a day or an hour and would often receive little to no notice as to his now restricted availability.

Eventually, Chase was released from the show and, as Brown demanded, had to sign a contract where he was banned from ever setting foot on a COMMUNITY soundstage again. I think it's safe to say that if Brown is in, Chase is out (or will have to do another bluescreen cameo).

"I am not coming back until that man is off the show." I can just hear Brown saying that in her real voice (as opposed to her Shirley voice). A voice of calm, firm, resolute determination.

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I really enjoyed MS. MARVEL up to the Partition of India episode, an episode that was really good -- but it threw me off that Ms. Marvel wasn't in it at which point I got busy with some other stuff and didn't get back to MS. MARVEL for about a month. Then I rewatched the MS. MARVEL episode but in that month, I'd lost track of who all these people were and I ended up finishing the show having lost my connection to the characters. Hmm.

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I watched SHE-HULK and really liked it except I didn't realize that it was 10 episodes and watched the currently eight episodes available across two nights. Hopefully, I won't find myself watching the show a month from now to finish it and wonder who the hell these people are.

Spoilers for DAREDEVIL:


















There is an odd strain of news articles saying that they still aren't sure if DAREDEVIL is canon because SHE-HULK didn't directly acknowledge the Netflix show with Matt Murdock's appearance -- which I find bizarre. I mean, the Netflix actor appeared and the Netflix musical character theme is used and there's a charming callback to the famous Season 1 hallway fight in Matt's appearance -- what more is really needed?

The whole "are the non-D+ shows canon" route strikes me as meaningless clickbait; the only real contradiction between D+ and TV has been WANDAVISION and DR. STRANGE II using a different Darkhold book from what was seen on AGENTS OF SHIELD, but even then, DR. STRANGE II patched it by revealing that the Darkhold book in the movie is "a copy" of stone-etched spells meaning there can be more than one book.

I don't think we can know if QL will be rescheduled, moved to streaming, or cancelled until they announce it.

I hope it isn't cancelled. I haven't seen it. And I know not everyone is happy about it. But we all lose whenever an okay/not offensive TV show is cancelled.

Last I heard, Yvette Nicole Brown's mother died and her father has dementia and she takes care of him. Presumably, the money and residuals from her previous acting work lets her devote her all her time to her dad. I imagine she needs to ensure she'd be spending all the time she needs to with her father first and that the COMMUNITY movie would be a ninth or tenth place priority.

My understanding is that Chevy Chase is contractually banned from ever returning to the set of any COMMUNITY production past, present or future. But even then, the showrunner was able to film a cameo with him in Season 5 by renting a separate studio and filming Chase against a bluescreen to be added into a hologram image later.

My grasp of movie production is that since movies (and mini-serieses) are filmed over extended periods instead of a week for a TV episode, they can often film with in-demand actors for isolated scenes even if they're not immediately available at the start. This happened with GILMORE GIRLS (Melissa McCarthy, Jared Padelecki) , X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST (James Marsden, Famke Janssen, Kelsey Grammer, Elliott Page).

Jeff, Annie, Britta, Abed, Chang and the Dean are locked to return as their actors are in.

Yvette Nicole Brown has neither confirmed nor denied that Shirley will return but has expressed great enthusiasm for the movie. No word on whether Troy be back as Donald Glover is quite busy.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/commun … 235396414/

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Finished SUPERMAN & LOIS's second season and... this show is SMALLVILLE done right. That's somewhat unfair and also totally fair.

The part that's unfair: SMALLVILLE had a much lower budget than SUPERMAN & LOIS at a time when digital effects were too expensive to show Superman's full array of powers. No TV show in the early 2000s could afford to do HD-quality depictions of Superman flying for more than a few individual shots. SMALLVILLE couldn't pull off superhuman fight scenes or extensive superpowers. Even as late as Season 8, scripts were constantly having any and all use of superpowers trimmed to the bare minimum. Writer Geoff Johns, writing the Season 8 Legion episode, remarked that he started out thinking the Legion characters would use their powers in every scene only to learn it was unaffordable. SMALLVILLE couldn't show global scale threats while SUPERMAN & LOIS could actually afford it.

The part that is totally fair: SUPERMAN & LOIS has a much better sense of life in a small town. At the same time that SMALLVILLE was airing, there was another show, EVERWOOD, a show about a small town created by Greg Berlanti, the Arrowverse executive who is now overseeing Todd Helbig's stewardship of SUPERMAN & LOIS today. Berlanti grew up in Suffern, New York state, a town with a population of 11,000.

S&L benefits greatly from Berlanti if not writing then encouraging S&L's creative interest in all the townspeople of Smallville; everyone in the town has a personality, a history, an agenda, a purpose, a perspective. Instead of the anonymous extras of SMALLVILLE, the S&L version of Smallville's inhabitants all feel like human beings who are a splendid micro-representation of the macro situations when the Earth is under threat.

The only issue with this emphasis on ordinary people with Superman among them: supervillains got a little lost in the shuffle for Season 2. Ally Allston, despite having some in-depth characterization as a cult leader, never really got any definition as a global-scale supervillain powerful enough to punch Superman into a coma. Season 2 was so focused on Smallville and Smallville-ians that Ally Allston becoming a Parasite didn't get much focus; in fact, the episodes would pointedly declare her unimportant compared to Lana Lang's troubled marriage but then need the audience to see Ally as a planetary threat. It's possible that this is an acceptable flaw.

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How do Mulder and Scully beat Colonization? How do two humans who can barely get office supplies from the FBI fight an interstellar invasion force of hyperadvanced aliens who are essentially a virus that coagulates into a black oil that can possess and control any biological lifeform, that has infected the majority of life in the universe?

... I personally always assumed that Mulder and Scully would rally the malevolent magic dolls and voodoo priests and werewolves and anthropomorphic representations of Death and the poltergeists and the time travellers and the Flukeman and the shapeshifters and the mites and the zombies and the telekinetic clones and the vampires and God as played by Burt Reynolds, forming an army to defy the Purity virus.

I always figured that the Colonists would take one look at the magic dolls and zombies and decide that, on balance, they would prefer to invade another planet.

"Look here, we're a biotechnology-driven species," Purity would say. "We wanted to infect and possess humans to use as broodmares, but we really don't care to mess around with voodoo and magic dolls and anthropomorphic representations of Death and anything played by Burt Reynolds. We are not equipped to engage with the metaphysical and mystical and we can't co-exist with ghosts and fire demons and magic goat suckers and talking tattoos and such. You can keep the Earth, it's just too damn weird."

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pilight wrote:
ireactions wrote:

It is nobody's sexual fantasy to have their neck snapped by a parasite.

I've been on the internet long enough to know that anything and everything is somebody's kink.  I'll agree this is likely not a common one.

You find me an example of this and I'll revise my statement accordingly.

QuinnSlidr wrote:
ireactions wrote:

As you "didn't mind" "The Breeder," I have no choice: you are hereby banned from the SLIDERS community; you, your children and your children's children. For three minutes.

I couldn't help but chuckle at your Simpsons reference there in the first line. smile

"Lisa the Iconoclast" sees Lisa banned from the Springfield Historical Society for three months, but I worried that "three months" would be taken seriously whereas three minutes can be taken seriously and still be harmless.

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New Omicron subvariants are coming. They may be immune to antiviral drugs. Immunity from previous infections may offer no aid at all.

It looks like the bivalent booster will likely prevent hospitalization and death, but not infection, as was the case when the Delta and initial Omicron variants hit just as the original vaccines were rolling out. However, for optimal protection, we may need a second dose of the bivalent booster within a few months of the first bivalent dose.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03157-x

There is a very simple countermeasure against Omicron, against any subvariant, against any future variant. It's cheap. It's effective against all viruses and bacteria. It's an electrostatic mask with a good seal. N95, KF94, ASTM or something comparable. Boat shaped or bifold. Or 2D surgicals with cordlocks.

If mask mandates were reinstated and enforced on public transit, in offices, in shopping centres, in grocery stores, in movie theatres, in performance venues, we wouldn't be seeing all these mutations and variants; the virus would have far fewer roads on which to spread.

It really is that simple.

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In X-FILES fandom, the Eat the Corn website and its founder, Kimon, are basically the Temporal Flux of SLIDERS. The defacto expert on the series both in terms of its in-universe mythology and its behind the scenes situations. I asked him what he would do if he were handed Season 12 of the show. "I would resign," he told me. He didn't feel THE X-FILES could proceed as it had collapsed its own mythology and he could see no way back.

Well, that sounded like a challenge.

Kimon, pre-Revival, wrote numerous essays on the mythology of the show as defined over nine seasons: the black oil, the bees, the alien-human-hybrid experiments, the Bounty Hunter(s), the shadow government, the Colonists, the Rebels. Naturally, he wasn't pleased when Season 10 declared the entire mythology to be a hoax. And he was irritated by Season 11's myth-arc incoherence and the Season 11 finale, particularly in how Mulder wasn't an FBI agent as much as some gun-wielding vigilante who'd gone from investigating a conspiracy to simply shooting conspirators in the head.

How to amend all this so that Kimon would like the show again?

My Season 12: we open in the offices of The X-Files. But it's not the Basement! No, no, we are now in the offices of The X-Files Magazine, a new media venture that does everything the FBI X-Files did, but as a monthly magazine investigating monsters of the week.

Gillian Anderson said she would only return to the show if it were a new take and if the X-Files were passed onto a new generation, so our lead character is Tamlynn Rivers (obviously Summer Glau), a down on her luck journalist reduced to what she thinks will be a ridiculous job at a glorified tabloid, X-Files Magazine. She is partnered with Wesley Ronalds (obviously Rupert Grint), a disgraced former medical doctor, who has been working at the magazine for a little longer and has seen some truly strange things and is willing to believe where Tamlynn is a skeptic.

Mulder and Scully are the editors, but we do not see them onscreen much -- or we see them all the time and they investigate monsters of the week in half the episodes. It depends entirely on what Gillian Anderson is willing to do. Assuming their involvement is minimal: Wesley informs Tamlynn that their job is to investigate monsters of the week and only monsters of the week. If they see UFOs, they send it "upstairs" to Mulder and Scully. If they see black oil, it goes upstairs. If they see aliens, upstairs.

The X-Files Magazine does NOT do aliens, Wesley tells Tamlynn (he doesn't know why, it's a direction from upstairs). Tamlynn and Wesley are strictly on monsters of the week.

And from there, we have a setup where we can resume the usual monster hunting of classic X-Files stories.

In the Season 1 finale, Tamlynn and Wesley investigate a series of murders that lead them to a wishing well, a water well that grants wishes to rewrite reality so that reality and history will center around the wisher. They also find a pack of Morley's cigarettes next to the well.

It's revealed that the Cigarette Smoking Man found this well before the Season 9 finale and used it. This is why, in Season 10, the mythology was now rewritten to make the Cigarette Smoking Man the center of the mythos and the master of the conspiracy when, in Seasons 1- 9, he'd been middle manangement. This is why he kept coming back to life and recovering from his injuries (even if some took longer than others to heal). This is why he comes back now, returning with armies to menace Tamlynn and Wesley.

Mulder and Scully locate the genie from Season 7, and it's explained that when Mulder freed the genie, her power went into this well. Mulder convinces her to take her power back and she does, but in doing so, she resets all of the CSM's revisions to past and present meaning that while the CSM is finally defeated, the original mythology has been reinstated, the Colonists and Rebels will return to existence and resume their war over planet Earth, and Colonization is back on.

I informed Kimon that it was now his job to come up with a plot for Season 13 and that I'd be expecting it by October 2023.

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As you "didn't mind" "The Breeder," I have no choice: you are hereby banned from the SLIDERS community; you, your children and your children's children. For three minutes.

I would say that the most scathing indictment of "The Breeder": the Season 3 showrunners wanted to make a softcore porn movie and yet, even by those standards, they completely failed; "The Breeder" is not sexy.

It is nobody's sexual fantasy to have their neck snapped by a parasite.

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Got my fifth dose today. It's the new bivalent vaccine which targets the original COVID-19 and Omicron strain BA.1 (which preliminary studies indicate will mount a good defence against BA.4 and BA.5). I'm feeling soreness and a headache as I did with my last four doses, but I also feel this sense of being armoured up like Barry Allen waving a hand to summon his Flash-suit from his ring.

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pilight wrote:

Tomcats was going to stink whether he gave his best effort or not.  Jerry was in way too many unsalvageable films in the early 2000's.

That is unacceptable. I expect better from Jerry O'Connell. I demand better from Jerry O'Connell.

John Rhys-Davies, despite his 1997 interviews post-"Exodus" saying he only wanted to be associated with well-produced, quality work, has actually done a ton of garbage projects from this god-awful NOBLE HOUSE mini-series with Pierce Brosnan to... whatever the hell is NEVER SAY NEVER MIND: THE SWEDISH BIKINI TEAM. John doesn't get to claim he stands for quality after staring in BLOODSPORT III and CYBORG COP movie and GRIZZLY II: REVENGE and various voicemails he's recorded for people (for a fee).

But. John has never half-assed his work. John has never put it anything less than his best effort. Whether it's a brief appearance in the INDIANA JONES footage for a theme park ride, guest-starring on VOYAGER or direct to cable trash like APOCALYPSE POMPEII, John commits to giving a wholehearted performance. John somehow ended up in ANACONDA: PART 4: ANACONDAS: TRAIL OF BLOOD (actual title); this was the direct to bargain bin sequel to Kari Wuhrer's ANACONDA (haha). Despite the tables having turned with John now coming after Kari Wuhrer (haha), John still gave 110 per cent. If ANACONDA: PART 4: ANACONDAS: TRAIL OF BLOOD turned out terribly, it wasn't due to any lack of effort on John's part.

John would have been ashamed of Jerry for hacking it out in TOMCATS if he ever saw it; Jerry took the money and ran whereas John takes the money and plants his feet to do nothing less than his very, very best.

Slider_Quinn21 once said it hurt him how little the creators on SLIDERS cared in Season 5. "I know SLIDERS was dying and they would all need new jobs, but didn't anyone working on SLIDERS want to get a new job based on their work on the show? Wouldn't future employers ask SLIDERS-writers why they never resolved any plots, why they ended of a cliffhanger, or why the overall product is very, very average? If I ever got a chance to work on a show, even something like HART OF DIXIE, I'd put my whole heart into it because maybe someone like JJ Abrams or Kevin Feige would end up seeing something that I wrote and put me on one of their shows."

I could say similar things for our Mr. O'Connell: wouldn't future producers, directors and casting agents look at Jerry's reel and ask him why he clearly hadn't bothered to read the script beyond his lines? Or why he looked bored, tired and hungover when his character was supposed to be happy, frightened or sad? Or why he wasn't adding any character perspective or emotional progression to his lines? Or why he wasn't bothering to perform reactions to the other actors? It's okay to be defeated by circumstances, but we mustn't ever capitulate to laziness.

It looks like Jerry took a hard look at himself after KANGAROO JACK and something changed; he seemed to find the Davies-spirit inside him again. I never saw him on CROSSING JORDAN, but the showrunner saw his guest-appearances and made him a regular, so Jerry clearly put in the effort and enthusiasm and it won over his boss on that show.

There's no way Jerry thought MOCKINGBIRD LANE was going anywhere except to a putting a small dent in his mortgage for doing a pilot that was definitely not going to series, but he took the job and gave it his full level of preparation, consideration and effort unlike, say, his lax performance in "Slidecage".

There's no way Jerry thought CARTER was going to do very much for his career at 10 episodes a year (20 in total, cancelled on soft cliffhanger), but he took the money and gave back his whole heart in a committed and passionate performance that is in some ways terrible but not due to laziness or disinterest but rather the fact that the material is mediocre and Jerry loves the writing more than the writing loves him back. This is a true actor. This is what I expect.

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Hmm. There are a few shots of Clark and Jordan's flying lessons where, when standing in the arctic, the foreground lighting on the actors doesn't match the background plate of the arctic. A Zack Snyder movie would probably get an actual snowy location or build one with CG augmentation, so I have to step back a little from saying SUPERMAN AND LOIS has effects that are just as good as a big budget WB movie... but they're almost as good.

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RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

Pandemic hasn't ended for me either.  Horrible reaction to vax. Couldn't complete vaccination (obviously) and ongoing impairing medical condition since my reaction (which I suspect a covid infection would worsen).  I kinda have no good options but hey that's life.   I do find the stupidity on managing covid maddening.  I don't think people shouldn't move on at this point if they like but we can have non invasive mitigation measures and we can have a time and place for masking.  Especially in medical facilities.  Which in the U.S. is going by  the wayside.   Biden has a lot of nerve on his words before the election vs. some of his words now.

I think the problem with Biden: he is incapable of retreating and admitting that he made premature judgements or that he needs to change direction. In 2021, Biden declared that anyone with two doses of an mRNA vaccine could go mask free. He didn't update or reverse when Delta and Omicron hit; he's still maintaining that vaccination magically means people won't get sick when the reality: vaccines have lost effectiveness in the face of new variants and rather than prevent infection, they are now serving to help people get better after they get sick.

Do you mind me asking which vaccine you got? I'm not a doctor. I'd be curious if the issue was mRNA vaccines and if you might get better results with a more traditional viral vector vaccine like Johnson and Johnson or Novavax. I'd say that vaccines have proven safe for the general population. But you're not a population, you're a specific person and while a vaccine may be safe overall, there are going to be outliers.

AstraZeneca in Canada had four deaths due to a rare 1 in 200,000 blood clotting disorder; it was removed from use even though most politicians got AstraZeneca for their first two doses at their photo op vaccinations. I have one friend who has such extreme reactions to any and all vaccinations in addition to his underlying health issues that he hasn't gotten any doses. I have another friend whose immunodeficiencies mean her doses have to be spaced out: four months between her first and second dose and getting her third under strict medical supervision while being unsure about a fourth.

I would say nine-point-five out of ten times, vaccines aren't going to cause anyone any issues. Kari Wuhrer once said that that nine-point-five out of ten women never experience breast implant encapsulation and sudden hardening and warping of their implants and that she was unfortunately on the wrong side of that statistic. Outliers exist. I'm sorry you had such a bad reaction.

Let me know if I can send you any KF94s.

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My personal preference would be what I did with SLIDERS REBORN, but that's completely insane and unmarketable.

My compromise: I would like to see a new pilot with Temporal Flux's 2000-era idea for a redux. It starts with the original Pilot scene: Quinn says he thinks he knocked out the power.

Cut to 2023: Quinn Mallory (O'Connell) is a burnt out 48 year old tax accountant who lost his passion for science after a blackout in 1994 that knocked out power to all of San Francisco for two days. He was never able to recreate the apparition he saw in his basement in 1994 and assumes that he imagined it, he never got anti-gravity to work, and he simply gave up. Quinn is now divorced, he hates his job and he wishes he were dead.

Wade Welles (Sabrina Lloyd) is a daydreamer who lost her enthusiasm for computer engineering after a failed startup that ended in her filing a sexual harassment lawsuit and getting arrested for fraud (accounts differ on the validity of the charges). Wade now spends her days writing tedious smartphone reviews, she's also Quinn's ex-wife, she hates her life and she wishes she were dead.

Rembrandt Brown (Cleavant Derricks) is a coffee bar owner who failed to hang onto his 15 minutes of fame during that period when he was a soul singer. Running a jazz themed coffee house today, Rembrandt is content but only truly comes alive on open mic nights.

Professor Arturo (John Rhys-Davies) is a genius who failed to gain recognition for his brilliance and has been drummed out of nearly every university in the state for being a bombastic ass; he now makes a living writing high school study guides for struggling science students and he hates this world and wishes he were dead.

Due to a combination of lethargy and laziness, both Wade and Arturo find themselves at Quinn's tax shingle to get their tax returns done. Wade is stunned that Quinn is on the verge of having his job replaced by a self-serve tax return app.

WADE: "Quinn! What... what happened to you?"
QUINN: "I -- I -- I -- I dunno."
WADE: "I just don't understand it; you had that one day where you told Hurley to stuff it, quit your job, asked me out -- and ever since then, it's like you made a jump but can't stick the landing."
QUINN: "I don't... I don't remember asking you out. Sometimes, it feels like that was someone else."

Arturo is enraged that Quinn abandoned science, saying Quinn was a brilliant student and now files tax returns.

ARTURO: "You could have changed the entire field of quantum mechanics, but then you abandoned your pursuits to fill out forms!"

Quinn's phone rings. He answers it, then drops the receiver and goes limp.

ARTURO: "What the devil is the matter with you now?"
QUINN: "My mom had a heart attack. She's dead."
ARTURO: " ........................................... but upon further consideration, Mr. Mallory, perhaps I'm being too hard on you."

Wade and Arturo assist Quinn in a blur of funeral arrangements. Weeks later, Quinn is clearing out the old Mallory house. In his basement, he discovers that his mother left his old lab intact, never touching his failed experiments in anti-gravity. Quinn reviews some of his old VHS journals and finds a tape he doesn't recognize. He plays it in an old, creaky VCR. Quinn is shocked by what appears to be a message from someone who looks like him but isn't him, offering suggestions on how to modify his anti-gravity equipment. Quinn makes the adjustments, compiling hardware that was left behind by this strange doppelganger for him, parts of a retrofitted Motorola flip phone that form a timing device with a countdown clock. Quinn activates this machine.

A vortex opens and sweeps him off to a parallel world. At the age of 48, Quinn Mallory finally becomes a slider. After his first brief visit to a parallel Earth, Quinn's timer brings him back to the basement and Quinn finally understands: it must have been a double who asked Wade out on a date, quit his job, and made several leaps forward in Quinn's life that always made Quinn feel like he was chasing himself and never catching up. Quinn finds more tapes left behind by this double, describing the concept of sliding, the mechanism of the timer.

Quinn calls Arturo and Wade, urgently wanting them to see his discovery. Arturo throws aside his latest study guide and dives into his car, eager for a distraction. Wade, worried about her ex-husband, hurries so quickly out of the jazz themed coffee bar where she types her articles that she forgets her laptop. The coffee bar owner, Rembrandt, finds it at the table.

Quinn, waiting for his former professor and ex-wife, watches a video segment where his double cautions Quinn about a hardware limitation in the timer. "This is important. No matter what happens during a slide, under no circumstances can you ever -- " the VHS player suddenly goes dead from dust and degradation.

Arturo arrives. Wade pulls up moments later, briefly answering a phone call telling Rembrandt she appreciates his offer to drop her laptop off at the Mallory house since it's on his way. She tells Rembrandt she's going to owe him a sizable tip for bringing her laptop.

Quinn shows Wade and Arturo into the basement, showing them the sliding machine, showing them the vortex. Wade is delighted. Arturo is humbled. Wade wants to explore. Arturo is unsure. Quinn is eager to escape his dead-end job and failures and grief over his mother and eagerly activates the vortex. He worries that it lacks the power to transport three people. He increases the power output. The vortex expands to swallow Quinn, Wade and Arturo -- and then it rips through the house and catches Rembrandt who has just arrived holding Wade's laptop.

The sliders land on a world where they face an impending tidal wave and Quinn is forced to trigger the timer early, losing his home coordinates, leaving the timer damaged and only able to track the next window of opportunity for random sliding, leaving Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo nomads amidst the interdimension...

And the adventure begins again.

(They will never do this, they'll just reboot. But this would be a dream come true.)

I'm afraid getting Scott Bakula back to play the lead character again (if that's what you're saying, I may have misunderstood) is a non-starter. Bakula does not accept roles where he has to stay on the set past 6 PM. He lost his marriage during the original QUANTUM LEAP because he was never around, and he made a promise to his second wife that he would never let that happen in their marriage.

I don't believe Bakula is as uninvolved in the new QL as he claims, especially when he offered no reasons for "passing" on the revival despite him being the one to constantly bring it up from 1994 to 2022; if he passed on anything, it was a larger role that would keep him away from home later than he wished.

I'm afraid getting Dean Stockwell back to play a regular character (if that's what you were suggesting, I may have misunderstood) is also not possible unless you have some way of reviving the dead.

Some shows take time to build their audience. Some shows take time to find their way. I'm guardedly hopefully that NBC, having retooled QL three episodes into filming and debuted it during the sportsball, will give QL some room to improve.

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He is ghastly in MISSION TO MARS, awful in TOMCATS, and horrifyingly inept in KANGAROO JACK. After KANGAROO JACK in 2003, I never wanted to see Jerry O'Connell again and I never wanted to see Jerry play Quinn Mallory again; I dreaded what Jerry might to do the character with his witless, thoughtless, artless non-acting.

Jerry would later say in an interview that he had been drinking and partying too much in the later years of SLIDERS and during the post-SLIDERS period, staying out too late, not exercising, and he confessed that his alcohol and eating habits during KANGAROO JACK nearly got him fired off the movie for being out of shape at which point Jerry started taking health and fitness seriously. I assume this is why his acting rebounded afterwards; a good night's sleep and a lot of green vegetables will make anyone feel like a superhero.

I never saw CROSSING JORDAN, but his guest-appearances got really good reviews and he got promoted from recurring to becoming the male lead next to lead actress Jill Hennessy, solely on the strength of his performances. That is an astonishing achievement for a recurring guest-star, so whatever Jerry did on CROSSING JORDAN, he did it extremely well.

I saw Jerry again when he guest-starred in a 2008 episode of SAMANTHA WHO where he was excellent; he plays a sweet and handsome would-be boyfriend of Samantha, but then Samantha remembers that this potential-boyfriend mugged her a few years ago. Jerry did a very good job of playing the character with ambiguity so that you weren't entirely sure if he were reformed or not; he'd clearly read the script instead of just his lines, something he seemed to have trouble doing in Season 4 of SLIDERS.

I didn't see him for another four years; he was in MOCKINGBIRD LANE, the pilot for a MUNSTERS reboot that didn't get picked up. Again, he put in a good performance, this time as a thoughtful and somewhat aggressively normal father in a family of monsters. He appeared in THE BIG BANG THEORY in 2018 and was perfect as the blue collar brother to the uptight Sheldon Cooper. In both projects, Jerry made specific, memorable acting choices as opposed to his work in MISSION TO MARS, TOMCATS and KANGAROO JACK where he seemed to have only memorized his own dialogue and given it no further effort.

He was in the 2018 - 2019 CARTER series where he played a manic manchild and while the character was a little grating and Jerry was over the top, it was a performance fuelled by an adoring love for his character. He did a good job. He's also done good work on voicing his character in STAR TREK: LOWER DECKS where I don't always recognize his voice; he disappears into that role.

I don't relentlessly follow Jerry's career any more, but Jerry is an excellent actor once again. I'd love to see him reprise his role as Quinn Mallory.

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In my case, I was a big fan of Jerry O'Connell in the TV show MY SECRET IDENTITY in which O'Connell plays a young boy who gains superstrength, invulnerability, superspeed and flight, effectively playing Clark Kent with the serial numbers filed off.

When I heard he was on SLIDERS, I was very intrigued by the athletic and brainy character he played. Quinn Mallory as of Season 2 and by "The Guardian" was everything I wanted to be, everything that I thought a man should be. I loved Quinn Mallory and I thought Jerry was amazing.

I was deeply confused and upset in later years when Jerry O'Connell's performance changed and I was dismayed by the quality of his acting in his post-SLIDERS projects where his performances were lazy and clumsy.

Over time, I came to realize that Jerry alone didn't make up Quinn's performance: there was also the craft of John Rhys-Davies as Jerry's unofficial acting coach, the guidance that Jerry received from Tracy Torme, the writing from talents like Jon Povill and Steve Brown, the excellent leadership from directors Adam Nimoy and Richard Compton, and the reason Jerry's Quinn-performance changed is because a lot of these important elements to Quinn and to the show faded out of the series.

Thankfully, Jerry regained the talent he seemed to lose in the post-SLIDERS years; if anything, he's now putting too much effort into his performances such as his hypercommitted, somewhat overpassionate performance in CARTER.

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Well, Jerry O'Connell has to earn a living. His wife can't earn all the money, he has to do his share of the work. And a non-greenlit SLIDERS reboot doesn't pay the bills.

Never be sad that an actor is employed.

We'll see! I'm happy for the fans.

On my end of things... the Jeff/Annie relationship was my favourite thing about the show. I was not a shipper; I just I liked their partnership and interaction and conflicts and self-imposed sexlessness (which was highly appropriate as Annie was 19 and Jeff was 34) and the mutual respect matched with the acknowledgement that they were an odd friendship resulting from peculiar circumstances that made them out of step with their ages, Annie having to grow up sooner and Jeff having mentally rewound or, in some ways, having been an arrested adolescent for years.

It is no longer my favourite thing because it's become very obvious today that the Jeff/Annie pseudoromance is a fictionalized version of the male showrunner's romantic obsession with a female staff member who was 12 years younger than him and who was in a position of subservience to him.

It's obvious to me that the Jeff/Annie relationship is how the showrunner imagined his fixation on this staff writer while the reality is that the showrunner harassed his staffer, showering her in unwelcome attention, invading her personal space, contacting her outside of work hours, making sexual overtures while insisting that it was just work, verbally abusing her when she rejected his advances, verbally abusing her for the supposedly-poor quality of her work after she'd rejected his advances.

I find it difficult to watch the Jeff/Annie relationship in light of these revelations and I am deeply disappointed by the showrunner. I hope COMMUNITY fans get a great movie and I hope it's everything they want it to be, but... I am undecided right now on whether or not I would watch it.

I could imagine the showrunner doing a great job of mining that in a screenplay that is hypercritical of the Jeff/Annie relationship and reveals it as a facade for the depravity that it concealed... but I'm not sure I would want that either because Jeff Winger took on a life of his own that was connected but separate from the series-creator once Joel McHale embodied the character and it would be a mistake to conflate the character with the writer.

And I'm not saying the showrunner should never work again; he confessed and apologized and his victim forgave him. I'm just saying that on an individual level, I am not sure I would (personally) revisit the Jeff/Annie relationship at this point by watching a COMMUNITY movie.

Others may wish to and I hope they will find it rewarding. Anyway. I wouldn't post these thoughts on a COMMUNITY fan forum. I'm happy for people who want a COMMUNITY movie; every revival means a chance that SLIDERS could be revived too.

COMMUNITY movie announced:
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/commun … 235389233/

Dan Harmon and Joel McHale will be executive producers. No word on which cast members will be returning.

I confess, there is a lot of COMMUNITY that makes me uncomfortable today, most of due to an extremely uncomfortable interaction I had with show creator which was entirely my own fault, but also the behind the scenes revelations about the creator sexually harassing a writer which has affected my former fondness for the Jeff/Annie relationship.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

So what's the prevailing thought about how the masks with earloops aren't effective?  I think I've heard that you have to have the ones that go around the back of your head to have the right seal.  I don't know if that's true.

I still use the KN94s that ireactions recommended a while back but that thought has nagged me since I read about it.

Taking a short break from work to respond to this because this is a matter of health and safety:

The prevailing thought among mask junkies (and I consider myself one) is that only headband masks are worthwhile. This is not my opinion nor is it the opinion of Aaron Collins, the mask expert/engineer who runs a YouTube account for mask testing.

Earloop masks tend to sit on the face whereas headband masks tend to grip the face. Not every earloop mask fits every face perfectly. The Kleannara KF94 earloop fits my mother's face perfectly, but the BMT KF94 has a huge gap over her nose. (Collins found that the Kleannara filtered 98.7 per cent.)

If there are gaps around your nose or at your cheeks, then the earloop mask you're wearing isn't the best fit. If there are no gaps, then it's fine. The mask doesn't need to be tight, it just needs to sit securely without openings. Unless you have some visual impairment (and some people do), you'll see mask gaps in the mirror if there are any to be found.

In contrast, headband masks exert such tight force around the head that they seal around nearly all faces. (Nearly all faces.) This leads to a lot of N95 headband mask enthusiasts declaring that only N95 headband masks are worth wearing which, to me, is like saying a Bentley armoured car is the only car worth driving.

Yes, the N95 is the best filtration and seal, but at 99 per cent, it's creating a lot of facial discomfort for only one per cent more protection than the KF94. If you're constantly exposed to biohazards and spraying blood and entering a ward filled COVID-19 patients, then yes, wear an N95 and goggles and scrubs. But I'm not sure you need an N95 mask and an armoured car just to go to the grocery store.

I think it's okay for civilians to accept 98 per cent filtration with a KF94, a mask that is more comfortable and easier to put on than a handband design. I cannot stress enough in the name of Quinn's Milky Way poster, Rembrandt's albums, Wade's teddy bear and the Professor's watch that the views of ireactions do not represent those of Sliders.TV and mask obsessives everywhere.

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I am still masking.

While I have gone to a few restaurants where I felt the spacing and ventilation were okay, I'm still putting on a mask every time I step out of my apartment to put garbage down the chute and I even wear a mask outside even though that isn't necessary. At the office, I unmask in my space but put it on if I step outside.

My mask of choice right now is the Bio Medical Technology KF94 which I buy at a local Korean grocery store. One of the things that I found bizarre and likely due to low information: a lot of people declared that any non-N95 mask was worthless and couldn't protect. That's like saying that any non-Ford car can't start.

N95 may be the most well-known brand and Ford may have been the most prominent car, but prominence isn't exclusivity. Ford isn't the sole manufacturer of internal combustion engines and the electrostatic filtering is not restricted to N95 masks.

KF94 masks are reviewed and regulated firmly by the Korean government and lab tests have shown that KF94s tend to filter about 98 per cent if incoming particles even though they're only legally required to filter 94. KF94 masks have a negligibly lower level of filtering than N95 and KF94 have a boat-shaped side-flap design meaning it sits firmly on the face without having to be tight and can use earloops instead of a headband without creating gaps in the seal.

In contrast, the KN95 mask has proven highly unreliable: tests have shown that they filter as low as 30 per cent in some cases with poor manufacturing; there is no regulatory body to punish manufacturers for making poor KN95 whereas poor KF94 masks can't make it out of the factory. KF94s aren't as tight as N95s, but where KF94s filter 98 per cent, the N95 is only a bit higher at 99 per cent in lab tests, so unless you're regularly walking into operating rooms and biohazard bays, the comfortable earlooped KF94 is absolutely fine for consumer grade use.

But frustratingly... my mask of choice isn't always what I can use. The thing I like about the BMT KF94: it's thin. It's a three layer mask. Most KF94s are four layer, but the BMT KF94 omits a structural (non-filter) layer that's there to maintain mask shape. While the mask flattens to my face more, it's thinner and easier to breathe through. The perfect mask for hot summers.

Unfortunately, supply of KF94 masks is not super-reliable here in Canada. You can always get *a* KF94 but you can't always get the same brand of KF94. My niece's best-fitting KF94 is the Delcure bifold; there was a good five months last year where none could be found. My mother's best-fitting KF94 is the Kleannara; there was a good eight months where none could be found. I currently have about 40 BMT KF94s... but I'm saving them for the summer and wearing a four layer (sigh) ZeroGuard KF94 instead.

In my mother's case, I've bought about 12 months' worth of Kleannara and once a month, I pass through a Korean grocery store, I spend another $6 USD on another six Kleannara masks for her supply, hoping to stay somewhat ahead of the next shortage.

(Anyone who wants KF94 in America can buy them off Amazon. Good Manner has had good reviews: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09HRSSTXR/ref=emc_b_5_t )

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In today's Talkville, Michael Rosenbaum (podcast extraordinaire) and Tom Welling (good sport) reviewe "Leech", the Season 1 episode where abused teenager Eric Summers (Shawn Ashmore) receives Clark's powers in a freak accident that leaves Clark only human.

Rosenbaum and Welling express bemusement that Shawn Ashmore would later return to the show in Season 6 as the role of Jimmy Olsen. Halfway through the podcast, Rosenbaum realizes that Jimmy Olsen was actually played by Shawn Ashmore's twin brother, Aaron Ashmore.

At this point, Welling says that he spent Season 6 and Season 7 repeatedly addressing Aaron Ashmore by the name "Shawn" and his bleakness is quite sad.

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I am booked for my fifth dose on Sunday. This will be my first dose of a bivalent vaccine. I'll let you know how it goes, but I tend to lose a week after each dose.

Apparently, the original pilot episode pre-Martin Gero will now air as episode 6. https://collider.com/quantum-leap-reboo … -comments/

... so, I guess we won't know Gero's true vision for the show until episode 7.

(I saw "we" but haven't seen this yet.)

I haven't seen the new QL yet, but according to behind the scenes chatter, NBC was just as happy with the first three episodes as Temporal Flux which is to say they weren't that happy. Original showrunners Steven Lilien and Bryan Wynbrandt were gently fired (they retain executive producer credits). Beginning with Episode 4, Martin Gero took over as showrunner.

Gero had been on the show before this as a producer, but it sounds like he wasn't  central or he was overseeing practical production rather than scripts. One of Gero's changes was apparently to re-edit episode 3 into the series premiere, revise the other two episodes already shot -- and it's likely that more scripts were written and in the queue before Gero took over, so we may not have the showrunner's *real* vision of QUANTUM LEAP until at least episode 4 and possible anywhere from episode 5 - 6.

Oddly, something similar happened with WAREHOUSE 13 too! The original pilot had been scripted for a major network budget only for the Sci-Fi Channel to buy it at which point the script had to be sliced to be filmable on half the imagined budget, and there had been such a delay from scripting to filming that  by the time the pilot was bought and a series was ordered, none of the original creators (Rockne S. Bannon of FARSCAPE, Jane Espenson of BUFFY) were available to run the show nor was anyone happy with how the expensive NBC/ABC-budgeted script had turned out on a Sci-Fi Channel budget.

Eventually, showrunner Jack Kenny was hired, but despite taking over with the second episode, it wasn't until Episode 4 that Kenny finally had the show where he wanted it by introducing the Claudia character.

Have faith, Leapers. Shows sometimes take a little time to find themselves.

Oooooh, Claudia. This was my retrospective on Claudia from WAREHOUSE 13: https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php?pid=9750#p9750

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I'm only on Season 2, Episode 10 of SUPERMAN AND LOIS, but I have to say, S+L is shaping up again to be a bit like a Zack Snyder Superman movie but produced by a team that actually likes Superman. I note that S+L, like Snyder, has a certain intrigue and interest with the idea of an evil Superman; the mass murdering Superman from John Henry Irons' world, the egotistical and deadly Superman from the Bizarro world.

However, S+L is always careful to declare that these versions of Superman are not the *real* Superman; that the genuine Superman is formed by a very specific set of life experiences on the Kent farm and with Lois Lane and with weaknesses on his powers that have given him humility, compassion and self-control.

In contrast, the evil-Supermans are always underguided or overpowered in some way. The alternate Superman in Season 1 was a fully Kryptonian, conquering alien invader who never had a grounded upbringing among ordinary people. The alternate Superman in Season 2 is a violent and self-absorbed celebrity who was overpowered by green Kryptonite and didn't have the limitations that helped Clark master and control and restrain his powers. The true Superman doesn't have a 'pure' cultural origin and doesn't have the heightened powers, but that shapes his heroism while the other Supermans lack it. This allows the show to present a Snyder-style Superman, but as alternate images and divergent versions of the real Superman.

I'm sorry to hear this. I haven't gotten to QUANTUM LEAP just yet. Currently catching up on SUPERMAN & LOIS and then, hopefully, STAR TREK DISCOVERY. Is it possible the sportsball game threw off the ratings?

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I just finished Season 2, Episode 6 of SUPERMAN AND LOIS. In addition to being a very well-written show, SUPERMAN AND LOIS makes the argument that there is absolutely no reason to spend $340 million on a Superman movie anymore. SUPERMAN AND LOIS can make a great episode for $7 million that looks just as good as a Zack Snyder movie (Superman stops an avalanche!). SUPERMAN AND LOIS could make a great Superman movie for $30 million.

Location filming outside Vancouver isn't needed when effects and digital backdrops can situate the characters anywhere. Fight scenes on a TV budget have proven just as lavish as a film so long as the money on locations, sets and actors are distributed effectively. With just a bit more money, the Vancouver production model for TV has proven that it can compete with the feature film and do as good a job with a lot less money and a lot more love and care.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Well, that's bad for the show.  I like Elsass and his performance - I thought he had a lot of charisma.  I don't like recasting, but I don't know if Superman & Lois wants to do a show where one of their kids is gone (they'd almost certainly not kill him off).

Elsass' replacement is an actor named Michael Bishop who looks a lot like Elsass. I think this will be just fine.

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David Zaslav clearly wants to burn WB down and sell off the rubble. The previous regime couldn't get their act together on superheroes. But... I will point out that DC superheroes are a *lot* more expensive to bring to live action than Marvel superheroes. This was a huge stumbling block for DC.

Look at SMALLVILLE (2001) and HEROES (2006), two network TV shows that featured superheroes in plain clothes with limited powers. The showrunners said this made the shows grounded and believable; obviously, this was a budget decision. It was financially impossible to show characters flying or demonstrating super strength in extended or plausible scenes. That's why SMALLVILLE and HEROES never had onscreen superhero fights.

SUPERMAN RETURNS (2006) showed Superman using all his powers in full, but Superman needed a $330 million budget. In contrast SMALLVILLE and HEROES had $3 - 4 million an episode. (All figures adjusted for inflation.) Superpowers were extremely expensive.

Marvel had an advantage during 2008 - 2012 with Phase One of Marvel: the IRON MAN, THOR and CAPTAIN AMERICA movies could be made for $190 million each because Iron Man doesn't need to look like a flesh and blood human, Thor's power is through the hammer and Captain America is effectively a street level powered superhero. That's how AVENGERS (2012) could cost $283 million and feature a superhero team while MAN OF STEEL (2013) cost another $330 million just for Superman alone. (All figures adjusted for inflation)

Superman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg and Green Lantern have to look like actual humans and have to have extremely detailed powers: Superman and Wonder Woman's flight and strength are an extremely intricate set of effects coordinated between performer and set. The Flash needs superspeed environments. Aquaman needs water environments. Cyborg is half CG-half actor. Green Lantern needs extensive green energy constructs. This was very costly for live action from 2008 - 2012. There's a reason why the first Berlanti Productions superhero show was ARROW (2012), a street level character without superpowers.

AVENGERS was also the product of a very different financial culture from Warner Bros. Warner Bros. produced MAN OF STEEL (2013) with lavish sets, extensive location filming, years of effects development and high priced actors. In contrast, AVENGERS (2012) was filmed more like a Berlanti TV show: a TV director, extensive use of soundstages with CG, even for outdoor scenes like the Battle of New York City, actors who were not (yet) stars. Warner Bros. has historically been unwilling to make their superheroes films with these measures.

Beginning in 2013, advances in digital modelling and motion capture and CG environments and sets (for movies) began to bring costs down. As a result, Berlanti Productions could bring the THE FLASH (2014) and SUPERGIRL (2015) to TV on $3 - 5 million budgets that were previously limited to SMALLVILLE and HEROES levels of effects. SUPERGIRL proved that a modestly budgeted TV production could do Superman with costs having fallen and technology having risen.

If Warner Bros. had adopted Berlanti Productions cost-saving methods to BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN (2016) and JUSTICE LEAGUE (2017), those movies could have earned just as much as they did but turned a profit thanks to lower production costs. Instead, WB insisted on making BVS and JL with a production method where both movies cost about $360 million each (adjusted for inflation). A film needs to earn approximately three times its production budget just to recoup its budget on production, marketing and theatre costs; BVS and JL would need to earn at least $1.1 billion in ticket sales. BVS broke even but didn't earn a profit with 1.1 billion at box office (adjusted for inflation). JUSTICE LEAGUE lost money, earning only 795 million (adjusted for inflation).

I'm only just catching up on SUPERMAN AND LOIS now, but it looks almost as good as a Zack Snyder extravaganza. It is only at $7 - 8 million an episode instead of the full $340 million, and the effects don't have the same slow motion ready detail, but we're seeing Superman fly, fire heat vision, lift heavy objects, fight at superspeed. Filming in Vancouver and using TV payscale actors and getting as much money on the screen as possible has proven to allow for a Snyder-level of storytelling with around $120 million for 15 episodes as opposed to $340 million for one movie.

DC characters were extremely expensive when this superhero craze finally hit mainstream with IRON MAN in 2008. Yes, Marvel was smarter and faster and more strategic, but to be fair, WB started with one foot in a financial hole because their characters' effects budgets were more costly than the competition's.

Unfortunately, WB kept digging themselves into a deeper hole even when Berlanti Productions showed them a ladder.

(All figures adjusted for inflation.)

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BROOKLYN NINE NINE was one of the most police-skeptical police shows ever aired. Outside the Nine Nine, every New York City Police Department employee was either inept or evil. Some were functionally incapable of enforcing the law, others were in league with criminals and/or abusing their power for personal gain or ego, and most were utterly indifferent to the well-being of civilians.

Within the Nine Nine, every police officer was ineffectual or incompetent either through shabby work practices, poor social skills, over self-defeating overzealousness -- they were redeemed only by no one being corrupt and most being ineffectual but not completely incapable.

In addition, the Nine Nine characters had contemptuous disdain and moral outrage towards pretty much every other precinct and every other level of police: Internal Affairs were incapable of actually policing the police, the Special Crimes Unit were perpetually appropriating nearly-solved cases from others, the central command structure of police was staffed by out of touch officers, and every other precinct was either evil or a danger to themselves and others. The only police officers that the Nine Nine officers didn't dislike or hate were the horses. By the third season, Raymond Holt had declared the Nine Nine to be "at war with the NYPD".

While copaganda TV is contemptible, I would say BROOKLYN NINE NINE did a good job well before skepticism towards police became mainstream.

Hurrah!

QuinnSlidr wrote:
ireactions wrote:

I'd like to change the title of this thread to "Reboots: The Return of Sliders and Other Properties" if that's alright. That way, we can talk about any and all reboots even when there isn't any SLIDERS news.

Alternatively, I can shift all the QUANTUM LEAP posts to a new thread. What would we prefer? A new thread containing all the previous QL posts? Or keeping them all here with a thread title change?

Sure!!! The title change is just fine with me.

I don't think there will be any Sliders reboot news for some time... sad

Well. I'll give everyone 48 hours to raise any potential objections. I'm just a servant here.

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I guess Zaslav's plan is to slash, burn and sell.

I'd like to change the title of this thread to "Reboots: The Return of Sliders and Other Properties" if that's alright. That way, we can talk about any and all reboots even when there isn't any SLIDERS news.

Alternatively, I can shift all the QUANTUM LEAP posts to a new thread. What would we prefer? A new thread containing all the previous QL posts? Or keeping them all here with a thread title change?

Scott Bakula has been talking about a QUANTUM LEAP revival since 1994. Are we really to believe that NBC greenlit a revival, sent Bakula a script, and that for reasons unspecified and vague and non-existent, he just "passed"?

That sounds to me like the flimsiest denial ever from a QUANTUM LEAP actor who is contracted to appear in the QUANTUM LEAP revival and it sounds to me like the only thing Bakula passed on was staying on set past 6 PM and doing any 'official' promotion for the new show.

This sounds to me like James Marsden saying he wasn't going to be in X-MEN: DAYS OF THE FUTURE PAST, like Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield denying they would be in a Spider-Man movie together, like Manu Bennett insisting he wasn't reprising the role of Deathstroke on ARROW and that all those photos of him on set were old publicity stills.

But if I am wrong, then I will write SLIDERS REBORN: Part 9 and I will owe QuinnSldr a cola.

Scott Bakula says that he has no connection with the QUANTUM LEAP revival, that the original script for the revival had a role for the character of Sam Beckett, but that he declined to be involved for reasons unstated.
https://bleedingcool.com/tv/scott-bakul … hatsoever/

If you believe any of this, I have a bridge to sell you. :-)

Keep the faith, friends.

(I cannot stress enough in the name of Quinn's glasses, Wade's teddy bear, Rembrandt's cab fare and Arturo's chalkboard that the opinions of ireactions do not represent the opinions or any consensus of Sliders.TV as a whole.)

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We are never going to be short on stories where police were needed, where police were heroic, where police were incompetent or where police were abusive.

The necessity of police to protect civilians does not erase the systemic abuse of power. The institutionalized corruption of police in North America does not erase the police officers who have served with honour and compassion.

We need police, but police in North America are shockingly unaccountable due to qualified immunity, toothless internal policing and access to discarded military hardware designed for war but repurposed for towns and cities. The average person isn't psychologically equipped to be handed this level of power without abusing it; it's fortunate that some of us have known and worked with and been aided by exceptional human beings who were police officers, but the fact that they were and are exceptional also means that they were the exception.

We need police who are recruited through strict psychological evaluations, police who answer to civilians who have the power to enact consequences for abuse of power, police who de-escalate and use only the force that is required and no more, police who are held to account should they use more than that force, police who are held to an exceptional standard that becomes the standard rather than exception.

(Please note: I cannot stress enough in the name of Quinn's sneakers, Wade's old boots, Rembrandt's new boots and the Professor's dress shoes that the opinions of ireactions do not represent the opinions or any consensus of Sliders.TV as a whole.)

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TITANS... has its merits. I just don't care for them. But we all know that there is an audience for miserable, grimdark, self-loathing, hateful superhero shows. Someone out there likes it.

I've heard that the STARGIRL team is planning to do a season finale that can work as a series finale if there isn't a renewal and that the SUPERMAN AND LOIS team is also thinking about how they can do the same.

Jerry O'Connell betrayed me. Jerry O'Connell betrayed the sliders. Jerry O'Connell disgraced SLIDERS. Jerry O'Connell turned his back on SLIDERS. He lied when he quit, making up an excuse about a non-existent budget cut as his reason for leaving. He lied about how he was cast on SLIDERS, making SLIDERS a pitiful low rung in his career and diminishing the show. I have tremendous disdain and rage towards Jerry O'Connell and sometimes, my hatred for Jerry O'Connell has made it difficult to look at him and made it painful to write fan fiction about the character he played on SLIDERS.

However. Even with all of that, I do not think there is *anything* else Jerry could have done at this point to save SLIDERS, having clearly regretted his behaviour in the 1999 - 2002 era. In 2012, he called Tracy Torme, having not spoken to him in years. He asked if SLIDERS could be revived and pledged to do what he could to help. Together, they contracted NBCUniversal and tried to get some meetings booked. In 2013, Jerry did the Funny or Die spoof.

Beginning in 2014, Jerry made every effort to get SLIDERS in the press again with tell-all interviews and articles. In 2018, he and Torme began reaching out to John Rhys-Davies, Cleavant Derricks and Sabrina Lloyd and tried to identify who exactly owned SLIDERS with St. Clare Entertainment having dissolved. In 2019, Jerry repeatedly voiced his willingness to perform in a SLIDERS revival whether playing Quinn Mallory or playing Quinn's father with a younger actor playing Quinn.

There comes a point when the lead actor of a TV show from 1995 has simply hit the limit of what he can do in service of a property that was cancelled in 2000 and that upper limit was probably in 2021 when Torme had meetings with NBCUniversal and could assure NBCUniversal that his lead actor Jerry O'Connell would absolutely perform in a revival. It is not for Jerry O'Connell to put his own money into funding a revival of a television property owned by a multinational conglomerate corporation when that corporation has billions of dollars and Jerry's net worth at my personal estimate is about 20 million USD.

(I had a similar reaction when I was fixing interlacing errors on SLIDERS DVDs and a fan told me I should call NBCUniversal's home video department and provide them with my solutions -- as though it is my job to work for NBCUniversal's video archives and do it unpaid and on my own time as their slave.)

SLIDERS belongs to Tracy Torme as a concept in that he did most of the work to create and shepherd it to air and it's up to him what he wants to pitch when he gets a chance to pitch. But in terms of assets, brand names, copyrights and intellectual property: SLIDERS is owned by NBCUniversal, not by Jerry and not by Torme; it's up to NBCU to seek pitches, to fund it, to arrange it, to produce it -- at which point it would be up to Jerry and Torme to work on it (if asked).

Jerry O'Connell should absolutely not be funding a property he does not own; that is well beyond the scope of his responsibilities as the star of SLIDERS. And I say that as someone who feels that for far too long, Jerry did not live up to his responsibilities to Quinn Mallory, Wade Welles, Rembrandt Brown and Professor Arturo.

I am glad that Jerry turned his perspective around after losing out on SPIDER-MAN and realizing that his path to cultural immortality was not Peter Parker but Quinn Mallory. I am touched that Jerry has done everything that he has for SLIDERS from 2012 and onward. If he'd done all of that in 1999, maybe we wouldn't have to have the conversation we're having right now. But time doesn't run backwards and in my own life, there are a lot of things I wish I had done differently or better or not at all when I was in my early 20s. With great reluctance and grudging respect for our Mr. O'Connell, I feel Jerry has done as much as he can for SLIDERS at this point. We have all done as much as we can for SLIDERS at this point.

That may have been true when this thread first started in March 2021. It's now September 2022 and I think we have to conclude that Tracy Torme's noble and brilliant efforts have stalled. The last report he gave was that NBCUniversal asked him for a SLIDERS revival pitch, he provided one and NBCUniversal asked: "What makes this the right time for a SLIDERS reboot?"

The question flummoxed Torme as they'd asked him for one and were then asking him to explain why he was pitching a project at their own request. NBCUniversal suggested they meet again at a later date to further explore a SLIDERS revival. The nuance suggested by SLIDERS commentator Annie Fish which may or may not be true: NBCUniversal was politely refusing Torme's pitch for any number of reasons: that Torme has a reputation for being "difficult", that only two of the original four sliders are currently pursuing acting projects, that NBCU is in no financial position to revive a television series that probably just broke even the first time, that Torme's pitch was not the clean-MACGYVER style reboot they expected but instead a QUANTUM LEAP/X-FILES style continuity revival that would, fairly or fairly, make the general audience think it was a product strictly for existing SLIDERS fans.

Fish remarked that in Hollywood, "Let's discuss this again at a later date" is a polite way to say, "Stay the hell away from me I never want to see you again I will call security if you don't leave the premises right now restraining orders are being drawn up." Is Fish right? I dunno.

I have all the love and respect in the world for Tracy Torme being insistent on reviving SLIDERS with *the* sliders; it's clearly the only version of SLIDERS he really wanted to write and someone else can always pitch the reboot-recast version of the show. SLIDERS is Tracy Torme's show and it's up to him how he wants to pitch it and it's not for me or anyone, really, to tell him that he shouldn't. I feel the same way about Chris Carter's incomprehensible X-FILES revival: it was his right to pitch a nonsensically incoherent two season X-FILES relaunch, it was FOX's right to greenlight it, and it's my right to watch the actual episodes and find them to be shockingly incompetent -- but until something actually airs, it's not for me to tell Torme he was wrong to handle his own property as he saw fit.

I can only say that a revival with Jerry O'Connell and Cleavant Derricks with Sabrina Lloyd and John Rhys-Davies likely only to guest-star and Torme's continuity being selective in what is and isn't canon to end the show around "The Guardian" -- well, it ran the risk of being confusing to the general audience and possibly to NBCU executives. In contrast, QUANTUM LEAP was a really successful show that was widely seen and remembered and the revival is being presented as something that requires no previous knowledge of QUANTUM LEAP; even if the REWATCH PODCAST hadn't given me a complete and near-total comprehension of the QL mythology, I would still feel the Raymond Lee relaunch would allow me to understand it.

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From 1989 to about 1999, DOCTOR WHO was primarily developed in novels as the BBC show was off the air. (1999 was when the audioplays started with the original actors at which point novels and audioplays became equal but separate contenders.)

There is a DOCTOR WHO novelist named Lance Parkin who wrote some very good and occasionally great DOCTOR WHO novels: "Just War" is about a war between a parallel universe where Rome never fell and a parallel universe where the Nazis won WWII, "Father Time" is about the immortal and galaxy-trotting Doctor trapped on Earth in the 1980s and adopting a little girl, "The Infinity Doctors" explores what would have been if the Doctor had never left his home planet, "Trading Futures" is the pacifist Doctor finding himself in a Bond-movie plot, "The Gallifrey Chronicles" is about the Doctor suffering from amnesia and discovering that he may have destroyed his home planet. Parkin's prose was terrific and he did a great job of writing the eccentric Doctor, but... his stories could sometimes devolve into a conventional action climax.

There is another DOCTOR WHO novelist named Lawrence Miles who sought to push the DW novel mythology to a new level, creating  bold new ideas for time travel with highly conceptual-metatextual ideas for how the DW universe of overlapping timelines and realities functioned or didn't. While Miles' novels were excellent ("Alien Bodies" has the Doctor discovering a future war between the Time Lords and an unknown Enemy, "Interference" has the Doctor struggling with his inability to change real world injustices), he had a marked disinterest in writing the Doctor in DOCTOR WHO and instead seemed more interested in his original characters despite his obvious brilliance. Miles would later start his own spinoff series, FACTION PARADOX.

There was another DOCTOR WHO novelist, the late Craig Hinton who coined the term "fanwank" because he wrote the novel "The Quantum Archangel" which was written as a sequel to 12 different DOCTOR WHO TV episodes and novels, deliberately to see how many pieces of DW he could link together and how many continuity errors he could explain in a media tie-in novel. "The Quantum Archangel" wasn't the only novel Hinton wrote, but it is the most prominent because it represents fan continuity obsession at its peak, presented in the form of a mass market paperback published by the BBC. Some mocked it for being overly insular, but given the nature of media tie-ins is to tie into other media, this may be unreasonable.

However, at a time when Lance Parkin and Lawrence Miles were producing books that were excellent literature and excellent DOCTOR WHO novels, a DOCTOR WHO novel that was 'only' a DOCTOR WHO novel seemed a little pale by comparison.
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In SLIDERS, I think all fanfic writers have tried to be Lance Parkin and Lawrence Miles at some point. I would say that Nigel Mitchell and Mike Truman are the Lance Parkins of SLIDERS and I wanted to be Lawrence Miles, but my obsession with continuity and pastiching the voices of the actors meant I just ended up Craig Hinton. Most SLIDERS fan writers are Craig Hintons.

Ultimately, Lance Parkin, Lawrence Miles and Craig Hinton were only producing DOCTOR WHO stories that could reach already-existing DOCTOR WHO fans. Who is SLIDERS' version of Russell T. Davies? Who can bring SLIDERS into the mainstream? Who can make SLIDERS as beloved by the public as iCARLY?

Davies wrote and produced a lot of TV; he had written one DOCTOR WHO novel ("Damaged Goods"), but he made the bulk of his career outside DW in TV before coming to DW.

Who is a powerful creator with whom studios want to work? A creator who is a fan of SLIDERS, a creator who would accept lower pay for shepherding someone else's property instead of creating and selling his own? It would have to be someone with a profile like Tina Fey (MEAN GIRLS) or the Duffer Brothers (STRANGER THINGS) or Ryan Murphy (AMERICAN HORROR STORY). Does this person exist? And if this person doesn't exist, can we create them?

Slider_Quinn21 wonders why SLIDERS hasn't been revived or rebooted and wonders if Jerry O'Connell isn't willing to do what's needed to make it happen. I've wondered if Torme's pitch is too insular and dependent on audiences having any memory of SLIDERS.

But... I think the simple reason that studios revived or rebooted SAVED BY THE BELL and BATTLESTAR GALACTICA and PUNKY BREWSTER and THE X-FILES and iCARLY and MACGYVER and GILMORE GIRLS and WILL AND GRACE and ROSEANNE and MURPHY BROWN and FULLER HOUSE: those shows were wildly successful on their original airings and in syndication. (Yes, BSG was cancelled, but because of its cost, not its ratings.)

SLIDERS in its original airing was a weird and embarrassing bus crash. 70 per cent of the show seemed to be produced by amateur and volatile high school students rather than serious professionals doing professional work. SLIDERS was managed so poorly by its network that it took two years to complete its first 22 episode run of episodes.

SLIDERS was produced so incompetently that it killed an actor in its third season and somehow used up most of its Season 3 budget by the 17th episode despite having eight episodes left to film. It lost its most seasoned actor and female lead by its fourth season and lost its lead actor by the fifth. SLIDERS somehow ended on a cliffhanger despite advance notice that their fifth season was the last.

SLIDERS in syndication is... I can't speak to its financial details, but it's not an enjoyable product once you get through the first handful of Season 3 episodes, so I can't imagine it does very well. In terms of home video sales, SLIDERS' fifth season is nearly impossible to find on DVD, meaning Seasons 3 and 4 sold so poorly that Universal didn't bother to produce more than a minimal quantity of Season 5 discs and gave up. SLIDERS' most 'successful' home video release is the bottom-barrel $60 Mill Creek set, likely kept in print only because it costs so little to make.

I can't help but think that an accountant at NBCUniversal looks at the SLIDERS file in horror, blanching at the scandals, the cost-overruns, the lackluster syndication and home video sales.

I can't help but imagine that an NBCU creative director looks at SLIDERS and feels repelled by SLIDERS' brand identity -- not as a daring, clever, witty, charming comedy-drama with a science fiction foundation, but instead as a property defined by ineptitude, unwatchable episodes, absent cast members, scandal, remembered for "The Breeder" and "This Slide of Paradise", for shabby and slapdash movie ripoffs.

I can't help but speculate that both accountant and creative director would understandably flee in terror and dive towards the relative safety of the QUANTUM LEAP folder instead.

I can't blame them.

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DOCTOR WHO on BBC was in a similar situation too in the 90s, remembered not for being an imaginative, daring science fiction adventure as it had been in the 60s or a joyfully comedic science fiction show in the 70s -- but instead thought of as the cheap, incompetent, poorly produced, badly executed self-parody it became in the 1980s and was unceremoniously put on a permanent 'hiatus' despite a creative rebound in its last two years.

Throughout the 1990s and early 2000s, the BBC steadfastly refused to greenlight a new DOCTOR WHO television show, declaring that they couldn't see it being a decent show given BBC budgets and confessing that they were embarrassed by DOCTOR WHO's brand identity as a poorly made series.

In 2003, there was a wildly successful British mini-series, THE SECOND COMING, about the return of Jesus Christ in modern day Manchester. THE SECOND COMING was created by Russell T. Davies and was so successful that the BBC entered a development deal with him, agreeing to greenlight any project he wanted, certain that anything Davies made would be a blockbuster hit. Davies chose his next project: DOCTOR WHO. The BBC protested, but Davies made it clear that if they wanted to work with him, they would work with him on DOCTOR WHO.

Who will be SLIDERS' own Russell T. Davies?

Be like BATTLESTAR GALACTICA...

I don't like saying this, but that does appear to be the lesson at hand because the only lesson iCARLY has for SLIDERS is that becoming a cultural phenomenon is rare, difficult, often due to chance, but also very much depends capitalizing on those lucky chances on holding your cast members to their ironclad contracts rather than firing them one by one and killing off their characters in convoluted, confusion storylines that make it difficult if not impossible to do a revival-reunion series years later.

THE X-FILES' mythology was arguably as muddled as SLIDERS by the 2002 finale, but at least the characters were still alive and revivable.

I've been watching the iCARLY revival to see if a potential SLIDERS revival could learn anything. iCARLY was a 2007 - 2012 show about two Seattle high school girls (Carly and Sam) and their friend Freddie who start a webcast of absurd sketch comedy while growing up together. It was a lively, low-budget Nickelodeon multicamera sitcom with mostly interior filming but a highly colourful and dynamic visual style.

iCARLY was a national phenomenon in its popularity with the 8 - 13 year old audience, a show that children and parents enjoyed together. iCARLY ended somewhat suddenly and somewhat appropriately in 2012 when, out of nowhere, Carly decides to move to Italy to be with her father, her departure from Seattle ending her webcast.

In the years that followed, iCARLY fell under a cloud of scandal and infamy: the original creator, Dan Schneider, was exposed as emotionally abusive towards child actors, effectively the David Peckinpah of kids TV. Meanwhile, Jennette McCurdy, the actress who played Sam revealed that she had been anorexic and bulimic to maintain her character's childlike body throughout the show, having warped and damaged her health for a man's idea of what a little girl should look like, effectively the Kari Wuhrer of kids TV.

Nickelodeon and the cast severed all ties with Schneider; Nickelodeon also bought out Schneider's percentage of the iCARLY property and in 2021, iCARLY came back to TV with a revival series and original actress Miranda Cosgrove (Carly) as series lead and associate showrunner. While McCurdy declined to return, the actors who played Spencer (Carly's older brother) and Freddie (Carly's technical producer and love interest) signed on as regulars, and iCARLY made a bold return as a return as a twentysomething single camera drama. The first season featured numerous guest-stars from the original series returning to develop their original arcs and explore how Carly had sadly fallen short of her dreams and potential but still had hope and new battles to fight.

The revival season relied upon the audience to have full familiarity with the original series -- but given the massive popularity of iCARLY, the revival could count on that familiarity. The revival season had to sum up what had happened in the almost-decade between the old show and the new one in a fast and hurried fashion -- but since the original series had ended with a closing note of farewell and a bittersweetly happy ending without any unresolved endings or massive cliffhangers, that wasn't a problem.

The revival season had to address how all the actors were significantly older than in 2012, but since the premise of the show is a webcast as opposed to living the life of renegade rebel nomads in the interdimension and the actors had been teenagers when we'd last saw them in iCARLY, that wasn't much of a hurdle.

What can SLIDERS learn from iCARLY? Well, I guess... I guess SLIDERS really screwed up by not being more popular from 1995 - 2000. And I guess... I guess SLIDERS was stupid to accumulate so many dead characters and unfinished plotlines from 1996 to 2000 that would make it functionally difficult to pull off an iCARLY where iCARLY could simply show (most of) the original characters alive and well in the present day with no need to explain why everyone was alive and together (since no one on iCARLY died and there was no reason why they couldn't all be back in Seattle again by the time of the revival). And.. I guess SLIDERS really should have made sure that more people actually watched the show to remember its back catalog of plots and characters.

As lessons go, none of these are winners. However, I will say: there is something wonderful about seeing the faces of Miranda Cosgrove and Nathan Kress (Freddie) again, having seen them as little kids in the original iCARLY and now seeing these faces in their late twenties in the revival, knowing that Carly and Freddie, two cultural icons, were not trapped in the amber of the 2012 finale. They grew and lived and carried on; they lived through the Obama and Trump presidencies, through COVID, through the internet's pivot to video. Carly worked in new media and had disastrous boyfriend after boyfriend; Freddie is twice-divorced and has an adopted daughter. They lived with us. They aged with us. And as they cope with numerous failures in life, they turn back to something that always gave them comfort and joy: their start their webcast anew and the adventure begins again.

I don't think SLIDERS can do this, not in the way we'd all hope. I think, if SLIDERS did this story... well, it would be my fanfic, SLIDERS REBORN, which most people who've read it seem to really like, but everyone (including me, who wrote it) agrees that SLIDERS REBORN only works for diehard SLIDERS fans. iCARLY REBORN also only works for diehard iCARLY fans, but apparently, most people living in the United States of America are fans of iCARLY, so that lack of entry-level accessibility isn't a problem for iCARLY. It would be for SLIDERS.

The only entry-level, mass-audience SLIDERS story I can imagine featuring the original cast in their original roles would be Temporal Flux's idea where a new SLIDERS starts on a parallel Earth separate from the Pilot where Quinn discovers sliding *today* instead of in 1994 and accidentally brings *today*'s Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo sliding.

The lesson of iCARLY's revival success is to be more popular... which, again, I'm not sure is actually a very healthy lesson.

QUANTUM LEAP is... not really my thing. The pilot didn't interest me and the lack of ongoing continuity (understandable for a late 80s show) didn't and doesn't appeal to me.

However, as a SLIDERS fan, I feel I have a duty to be happy for QUANTUM LEAP fans where a show that had its height in the 90s is getting a well-deserved revival that follows the continuity of the original and includes the original creators (and probably the original star), to cheer it on and to wish it well. And, of course, to hope that maybe one of those QL revival episodes will feature a graduate student in physics named Quinn Mallory and serve as a backdoor pilot to a series about parallel universes.

As an Asian man, I also feel I should watch anything Raymond Lee does so long as Lee never does anything bigoted or indefensibly violent.