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Trump's demands that Kamala be forced off are obviously projection: he is angry because Joe Biden was his preferred opponent.
And he's also angry because she is winning in so many states where he is not.
LOL. Good luck with that. He wants this to happen because he knows he is losing. Badly. That's why he's cancelling every public appearance and limiting them to scripted events (like the Al Smith Dinner where he was looking at a script the whole time looking down at the podium).
Trump says Harris should be ‘forced off’ campaign, wants Biden back
Donald Trump initially said Kamala Harris shouldn't be “allowed” to run against him. Now he wants her “forced off” the campaign trail.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sho … rcna176073
Nearly a decade into his career in politics, Donald Trump has consistently argued that his potential rivals shouldn’t be permitted to stand between him and power. In October 2015, for example, the Republican said Hillary Clinton shouldn’t be “allowed” to run for president. In February 2016, Trump said Ted Cruz was “not allowed” to run for president, either. A month later, the future president said John Kasich shouldn’t have been “allowed” to run against him in a GOP primary.
Ahead of Election Day 2020, Trump said Joe Biden shouldn’t have been “allowed” to run for president. In July 2024, he said Kamala Harris shouldn’t be “allowed” to run, either.
Four months later, as a HuffPost report noted, the former president insisted that the Democratic vice president should now be “forced off” the campaign trail.
In a Thursday post on his Truth Social platform, former President Donald Trump argued that Vice President Kamala Harris ‘should be investigated and forced off the Campaign,’ thereby allowing President Joe Biden ‘to take back his rightful place’ at the top of the Democratic ticket. Trump did not specify what he believes Harris — who became the Republican’s rival in the White House race after Biden dropped his reelection bid this summer — should be investigated for.
In recent weeks, as the GOP nominee has struggled to come up with a coherent closing message, he’s fixated on a handful of preoccupations, including his desire to see Biden return to the ballot, his baseless “60 Minutes” conspiracy theory and his insistence that Harris should stop running against him.
Remarkably, in a pair of odd online missives, Trump managed to tie all three threads together in one weird package.
The harangue began with this item, in which the Republican called for “60 Minutes” to be “IMMEDIATELY TAKEN OFF THE AIR,” argued that CBS should “LOSE ITS LICENSE” to broadcast, said Harris “should be investigated and forced off the Campaign,” and concluded that Biden should “allowed to take back his rightful place” on the Democratic ticket.
Less than a minute later, Trump added strange new details to his “60 Minutes” conspiracy theory — he believes CBS News producers might have “‘CREATED’ many additional new answers for her” as part of the broadcast — before wrapping things up with a veiled threat.
“RELEASE THE TAPES FOR THE GOOD OF AMERICA,” the GOP nominee wrote. “We can do it the nice way, or the hard way!”
What, exactly, would “the hard way” entail? He didn’t say, and your guess is as good as mine, though the phrasing was certainly ominous.
There’s no point in going line by line through Trump’s rants, pointing out every error of fact and judgment, though it’s difficult to brush off the Republican’s insistence that his major-party opponent “should be investigated and forced off the Campaign,” despite the fact that she’s done nothing wrong.
It’s one thing to say that a rival candidate is undeserving of support, but it’s far more pernicious to argue that a rival shouldn’t even be permitted to seek support. The former is normal; the latter is authoritarian.
Harris Will Beat Trump Decisively; Most Polls Are WRONG - Here's Why
I am really scared.
But I am continuing to fulfill my responsibilities and do the things I need to do for myself and others.
I'm afraid, but I'm trying not to let it stop me from doing anything.
Don't let positive polls for Trump fool you. There are at least 30 right wing organizations who are flooding the polling pool with positive polls in an effort to increase their averages. That's how they generate their averages.
This is why I generally don't trust polls. The proof is in the vote. Also: polls don't decide elections. The voters do.
Kamala is also doing a Town Hall right now on CNN with Charlamagne Tha God. She is going everywhere. Next week she has a CNN Town Hall moderated by Anderson Cooper on 10/23.
Go Kamala!!! So much for Trump (Hitler)'s BS about she's not doing any public interviews. Hahahaha!!!
A couple interesting developments:
1. Kamala Harris has released her medical records and is punishing Trump on the idea that he won't release his. It's getting some national traction. It obviously won't lead to Trump releasing anything, but maybe if it gets enough attention, it can bring back "Trump is old and obviously in decline" back into the national discussion in the next few weeks.
2. Kamala is doing an interview on Fox News. This will be the first time that I assume a lot of Fox News viewership will get exposed to a one-on-one interview with her. If Cheney-like Republicans are willing to give her a chance and willing to vote for her, it could be a great opportunity to make a difference. And just like point #1, there is zero chance that Trump would go onto a hostile network and face tough questions.
3. Kamala is also apparently going on Joe Rogan.
Not a fan of Joe Rogan here, but I never thought I'd see the day that this would happen.
I can see FOX news, though...and Trumpers are having meltdowns over it. LOL
Superman & Lois is back for its final season with two new episodes. I liked both of them. I think Tyler Hoechlin is a really good Clark Kent. I still feel like he's a little small for Superman, but like Tom Welling, I think he has an innocent hopefulness that I feel like Clark should have. I think he comes across as someone fearless but gentle which I appreciate.
It's an abbreviated final season so it's already 20% done. And the producers said they'll do something to honor the legacy of the Arrowverse. Which, of course, we've heard before
I enjoyed both of these episodes too. I think Tyler Hoechlin and Henry Cavill are two of my favorite portrayals of modern Superman. Christopher Reeve being my absolute favorite that nobody can top.
I don't think big muscles or size alone makes Superman. But properly portioned athleticism, combined with the right personality and acting that Tyler portrays, does wonders. I think Bitsie Tulloch makes an excellent Lois Lane. Her performance as Lois is always top-notch. And she puts a good spin on the character.
Have you seen the latest season 4 trailer? I can't wait to see the scene where Clark tells Sam Lane his real identity in the episode itself.
As an avid Superman watcher, I should have known that they would be tackling the death of Superman at some point. As I've grown attached to these characters, so has my grief with the death of Superman. My stepdad died less than 24 hours after an abdominal aortic aneurysm rupture last year in July. And that grief came rushing back in the final 10 minutes of the second episode.
I hope they bring back Superman fairly fast, and that they don't dwell too much on the loss.
I don't think the heart Lex stomped on was Superman's real heart. But I can certainly understand Johnathan's and the family's sense of loss and their confusion during this time of grief. Anyway, Lex isn't going to simply destroy his prized possession so unilaterally. Plus, it wouldn't be that destroyable by a human being.
My opinion? She just won the election.
Well done, Madam President!!!!
https://x.com/harris_wins/status/1843830270384058526
Kamala has kicked up her media game - at least to the point where it's noticeable to me in Texas. She has done a couple podcasts (one aimed at black men and another at women), she did the 60 Minutes interview, and she's doing local/regional stuff in the battlegrounds. I think she's doing Howard Stern too.
Trump is just doing stuff for his base and his rallies. He's not making any effort to recruit new voters. So if there are undecided voters willing to give her a chance, she's reaching them.
I think her campaign is doing a good job. There's talk of spending money on an informercial that could be aired in battlegrounds and nationally. Obama did something similar in 2008. Might as well with all the money she has. And I saw Walz went on Fox News which I still think is important. I don't think it's smart to assume that every Fox News voter will vote for Trump.
I'm starting to feel a bit more optimistic that the polls are right or that the polls are underestimating Harris. It's very nerve-wracking to know that a test for the soul of my nation is a month away, but I'll vote for her in a couple weeks and I'll know that I did my part.
Indeed, Kamala is kicking her media game into the stratosphere. Let's win 2024.
https://x.com/harris_wins/status/1843301914643222910
Yeah, I guess I mean "is this reaching uninformed voters?" Because I'm not sure those voters watch any cable news, and I'm assuming (from the friends I know that are like this) that their social media is specifically aimed at avoiding any political news. I've mentioned this before but the only news my wife gets is from the Today show on NBC, and I just looked at their web site and I don't see it mentioned at all. And while that's a pretty light show from the bits I watch, they do cover breaking news and stories like that. And I think this is a story that could hypothetically divert votes from Trump, but I think the bases (who will not be dissuaded) are the only ones that even know about it.
As a journalism guy, I've been pretty annoyed at the media. I know that all these news outlets are owned by billionaires that are friendly to Trump, but they just don't cover Trump the way they covered Biden. And I get that Trump's speech the other day where he was slumped over and slurring wasn't as big a stage as the debate, but if Biden had made a speech like that four months ago, it would've been front page news. And it barely registered.
And if I'm the Harris campaign, I just don't know how you reach people to show them what Trump is in 2024. I honestly think she'd do better if the news networks aired Trump's stuff live more. That's where you see the really crazy stuff, and that's where you see his age showing. The dude is tired because he's old.
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I'm basically easing into a zone for this election. If polls are right, Kamala will win the blue wall and Nevada and she has a chance to win all seven battleground states. If polls are underestimating Trump, he wins - maybe with more electoral votes than Biden got in 2020. I do think there are some encouraging signs around mail-in voting and early voting, and I'm hoping that those numbers represent Democrats the way they did in the past because that would mean Trump's banking on a lot of people that don't usually vote getting out to vote on a very specific day.
There's good signs for the economy. The longshoremen didn't strike. I think the worst news for Harris is the stuff in the Middle East and this romanticism of the Trump years. If we can just get enough people in Pennsylvania to just feel like things are okay, and enough of them can just get annoyed by what Trump has been doing the last few weeks....I think she's in good shape.
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And going back to my point about non-Trump Republicans. These guys are avoiding so many questions. They're not spewing Trump's lies. They're not disputing them, which is important to note, but they're not going along with them. I think that's all the evidence I need that these guys are bad people but that our politics has a shot to heal once this nonsense is over and Trump is gone.
I agree with you.
The one thing that I've observed is that Trump is no longer even trying at all to do anything consequential or even close to it. Why? He is counting on the republican-led House and Supreme Court to overturn votes and reinstate him as President.
I hope that we get the blue tsunami landslide for Harris & Walz that we are hoping for. Magnitudes larger than Hillary's win in 2016 so it cannot be disputed. In both the popular vote and the electoral college.
Crossing fingers.
If you are someone who finds the accusations against Trump damning, you're not voting for him. There's NOBODY left to persuade on that end. Criminals have been elected before, people vote selfishly.
The bigger story was Vance refusing to say Trump lost. Bigger story should be the big job numbers from September. Or Pete Buttigieg resolving the potentially disastrous longshoremen strike in just days. Or Joe Biden and Kamala visiting the hurricane victims in Western NC.
I don't disagree with you, Grizzlor. This is spot on.
Is the mainstream media covering this? I think a lot of what I've read is damning, but I'm wondering if it's reaching the undecided / unfinalized voters that could be swayed by this information.
It also makes me upset at Merrick Garland because this should've been slam dunked a long time ago. I know that this stuff takes time, but from the accounts I've read, DOJ didn't get involved until after the 1/6 hearings. And obviously its too late for this election, and a 50/50 election might put the whole thing in jeopardy when this should've already been wrapped up. The documents case got derailed by bad luck (although freakin' Cannon got the assassin trial too which makes me wonder if it's luck at all), but the DC case would've been done if not for a two year delay.
It's been all over social media and the news as soon as it broke yesterday. MSNBC. CNN. etc. FOX News is even reporting the truth, which made the rounds on social media (that Trump resorted to crimes in order to stay in power). Which is highly unusual.
Wow. I will probably carve out some time to read it on Saturday.
You may have seen some of these talking points on the news already, depending on the news available in your area. But, based just on what's in the document:
1. Pence told Trump there was no evidence of voter fraud. Trump perpetuated the lie anyway.
2. Trump staffers pushed for violence when they saw it could boil over. They said "Make them riot." and "Do it."
3. When Pence was being moved to another location Trump said "So what."
It was all known. It was all orchestrated as part of the coup. Trump has no right to feign ignorance. He knew it all. And did it all.
Even FOX News is now starting to tell the truth: that "he resorted to crimes to stay in power."
Read Jack Smith's Unsealed Court Filing Against Donald Trump
https://www.newsweek.com/read-jack-smit … mp-1962895
S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan on Wednesday made public a lengthy filing from special counsel Jack Smith in his investigation into former President Donald Trump's alleged efforts to interfere with the transfer of power following the 2020 election.
Read the full 165-page filing below.
I'm feeling very good about the election too, Slider_Quinn21. Trump (Hitler) continues to decline mentally on a daily basis. He continues to insult Kamala, and more people continue to leave his rallies.
I don't feel bad about his supporters at all. They've made their choice. They can lie in it when it's over.
I don't know why Nate Silver is given any kind of air time anymore, since it has been proven that he is nothing but a Trumper spreading right wing lies that benefit Trump. I snipped the right wing propaganda from the article. If you want to read it, you can go to Newsweek.
Anyway......
Kamala Harris' Chances Surge in Major Election Forecast
https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris- … st-1960686
Kamala Harris has seen a significant boost in her 2024 election prospects, according to a major new forecast.
The Economist's latest election forecast shows that Harris now has a 3 in 5 chance of winning the Electoral College in November, compared to Donald Trump's 2 in 5 chance. This marks the vice president's strongest position since becoming the Democratic presidential candidate. The forecast also shows that Harris is expected to pick up 281 Electoral College votes, while Trump is expected to win only 257.
Over the past three weeks, Harris' chances have risen sharply by 10 percent, up from an even split with Trump on September 8, when both had a 50-50 chance of victory, with the Democrat predicted to pick up 270 Electoral College votes—just enough to win—while the Republican was predicted to win 268 votes.
Harris' overall chances of winning the election have also increased by 6 percent since September 8, from 52 percent to 58 percent, while Trump's chances have declined by 7 percent, from 48 to 41 percent.
Meanwhile, the forecast shows that the vice president is predicted to win in four swing states—Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin—while Trump is predicted to triumph in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona.
[snip right wing propaganda against Harris]
It has been another positive week for the vice president in the polls. The most recent Outward Intelligence poll, conducted between September 22 and 26, put Harris 6 points ahead nationally among 1,735 likely voters.
Another poll, conducted by Echelon Insights, which was cofounded by former Republican digital strategist Patrick Ruffini and pollster Kristen Soltis Anderson, found that Harris is 7 points ahead of Trump in a head-to-head matchup, on 52 percent to his 45 percent. The poll surveyed 1,005 likely voters between September 23 and 25.
A Clarity Campaign Labs poll from September 24 also put Harris 7 points ahead.
However, some polls conducted in the last week, including a survey by Quinnipiac University put Trump 1 point ahead when third-party candidates were included, while the two nominees were tied in a head-to-head matchup. A CNN/SSRS poll conducted between September 19 and 22 also showed Harris and Trump neck and neck among registered voters when third-party candidates were included.
However, despite fluctuating polls, Harris remains ahead in every polling aggregator. For example, FiveThirtyEight's polling tracker puts the vice president 2.8 points ahead, on 48.6 percent to Trump's 45.7 percent.
The pollster's forecast also shows Harris has a 57 percent chance of winning the election, picking up 283 Electoral votes to the Republican's 255.
Race to the White House gives Harris a 60 percent chance of winning the election, with 289 Electoral College votes to Trump's 248.
Keeping my cautious but hopeful paradigm going.......
Trump Suddenly Behind in Pennsylvania, New Polls Show
https://newrepublic.com/article/186182/ … polls-show
TL;DR: Harris is 50 points ahead of Trump's 46 points.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/19/us/p … vania.html
If Donald Trump loses Pennsylvania, he almost certainly will lose the presidential election. Now, all of a sudden, we have four new high-quality polls showing Kamala Harris ahead, though some others show it tied. Why the heck is Pennsylvania so close? What is really going on there? Should we believe the polls? Or not? We chatted with Democratic strategist Rebecca Katz, who is from Pennsylvania herself, worked on Senator John Fetterman’s victorious 2022 campaign, and knows something about winning there. Katz explained what Harris’s path to victory in the state looks like—and the looming obstacles that still keep her awake at night. Listen to this episode here.
ireactions wrote:I think my terror is probably about us here in Canada, where we are staring down the barrel of an election where the advantage is with this climate change dismissing looney toon who is basically Trump lite.
What do you mean? Think of all the "seafront" property who will have up in Canada thanks to global warming. Trump told the good folks in Michigan about that tonight on stage.
My guess is ireactions is referring to JD Vance as Trump's mini me. I think he is every bit as dangerous as Trump is. Probably more so.
Check out this ditty he said yesterday:
"JD Vance says the United States’ support for NATO should be contingent on Europe’s support for Elon Musk and Twitter."
After the debate, the new Reuters poll has Harris at 47% and Trump only at 42% to win in November.
God I hope it's a landslide.........
Harris vs. Trump: Who is leading the polls?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris … 024-09-12/
WASHINGTON, Sept 12 (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris leads Republican Donald Trump 47% to 42% in the race to win the Nov. 5 presidential election, increasing her advantage after a debate against the former president that voters largely think she won, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that closed on Thursday.
The two-day poll showed Harris with a five percentage point lead among registered voters, just above the four-point advantage she had over Trump in an Aug. 21-28 Reuters/Ipsos poll.
Among voters who said they had heard at least something about Tuesday's debate, 53% said Harris won and 24% said Trump won, with the rest saying neither had or not answering. Some 52% of those familiar with the debate said Trump stumbled and didn't appear sharp, while 21% said that of Harris. Among Republican voters, one in five said Trump didn't appear sharp.
Harris, 59, put Trump, 78, on the defensive in a combative presidential debate with a stream of attacks on his fitness for office and his myriad legal woes, highlighting Trump's felony conviction on charges he falsified business records. Some 52% of voters familiar with the debate said Harris "gave the impression of having higher moral integrity," compared to 29% who said the same of Trump.
Many Republicans were also not convinced about their candidate's performance in the debate in Philadelphia. Some 53% of Republican voters in the poll said Trump won the debate, compared to 91% of Democrats who said she was the victor. Among Republicans, 31% said no one won and 14% said Harris got the better of Trump.
This woman is incredible. She is on the attack now. Trump (Hitler) continues to get more flustered and flustered and incoherent.
Oh Trump (Hitler) is flustered now. He's the first during this debate to start screaming out of turn with the mic muted.
LOL
I am hoping Harris comes out swinging and looking Presidential as always. And that she catches Trump (Hitler) off guard and he goes home crying about how it's all rigged and all so unfair. Bonus points if she can get him to call her names and get more well...Trumpian...!!!
There is a continued outspokenness of honestly generally okay don't-drink-the-kool-aid republicans who are voting for VP Kamala Harris instead of Trump. Including Dick Cheney.
Also, I have a feeling in this election year, polls are downright worthless. Every single democrat with a democratic spine is going to vote for her. And I have a feeling we are going to have a blue tsunami this year.
Anything else is mostly right wing posturing.
Remember...even Kevin McCarthy came out and said republicans are likely to lose this election. KEVIN MCCARTHY.
That is something I thought I'd never hear somebody of his ilk say.
QuinnSlidr wrote:Oh, he's already done that. He flip flopped immediately on bad public reaction and lost pro-lifers.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to. I wonder what kind of language he's going to use when abortion comes up tomorrow. If he says "reproductive rights" in an attempt to court women, he might lose pro-lifers. If he doesn't say that, he could continue to lose women that aren't MAGA or crazy pro-life. I actually don't understand what his original pivot was about because I feel like those groups of people were already pretty clear on what camp they were in. Pro-lifers are pretty one-issue people, and they already have what they want. If they feel like they just need to play defense in the Senate and that the Supreme Court is pretty safe, a less-than-pro-life Donald Trump doesn't give them anything.
Now those people won't vote for Kamala Harris, but I'll take a nullified Trump vote.
He originally flipped because FOX News asked him how he would vote on Floridian legislation on their six week abortion ban, and he said he would vote "no" because he was losing too many voters and was under fire from the Harris campaign for being pro life. And there was also the recent very public outcry against Project 25's goal to ban all abortion nationwide. This answer to FOX News resulted in massive backlash against him from pro-lifers and, of course, he realized his mistake against his base all too late, so he flipped on IVF in order to retain and maybe gain some voters from the pro choice side. He has no idea what he's doing and he's grasping at straws at this point.
Trump moves to contain fallout of abortion, IVF backlash
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international … 955_4.html
The rift widened as he hit out at his home state Florida's six-week abortion ban, calling it too restrictive and suggesting he planned to vote for an upcoming ballot measure that would make the procedure legal until a fetus becomes viable.
Trump, 78, walked back the comment ahead of a rally in the battleground state of Pennsylvania on Friday, telling Fox News that "I will be voting no." But conservatives had already begun criticizing Trump's ever-shifting positions on abortion, with a new Republican policy platform dropping calls for a national ban and the tycoon's recent claim that his government would be "great" for reproductive rights. The pushback from anti-abortion groups on his latest remarks was swift, with activists warning that he risks alienating his base.
Slider_Quinn21:
I think there's a chance that Trump says or does something that loses him pro-life voters, but I don't think those people go to Kamala. It can help her if they don't vote for him, but obviously it's better if they get those votes. And there's just no way they vote for her. Maybe I'm underestimating it, but I think the endorsements of the Cheneys doesn't move the needle much. I think the Bush/Cheney conservatives have already left, and I think Liz has been openly anti-Trump for a long-enough time that nothing would change.
Oh, he's already done that. He flip flopped immediately on bad public reaction and lost pro-lifers:
Trump says he wants to make IVF treatments paid for by government or insurance companies if elected
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald … rcna168804
POTTERVILLE, Mich. — Former President Donald Trump said in an interview with NBC News on Thursday that if he is elected, his administration would not only protect access to in-vitro fertilization but would also have either the government or insurance companies cover the cost of the expensive service for American women who need it.
"We are going to be, under the Trump administration, we are going to be paying for that treatment," Trump said before adding, "We're going to be mandating that the insurance company pay."
Asked to clarify whether the government would pay for IVF services or whether insurance companies would do so, Trump reiterated that one option would be to have insurance companies pay "under a mandate, yes."
Abortion and IVF have been political liabilities for the GOP this year. Democrats have blasted Republicans over IVF in recent months, saying GOP-led restrictions on abortion could lead to restrictions on IVF, as well.
In a statement, Sarafina Chitika, a spokesperson for Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign, said that "Donald Trump’s own platform could effectively ban IVF and abortion nationwide" and that "because Trump overturned Roe v. Wade, IVF is already under attack and women’s freedoms have been ripped away in states across the country. There is only one candidate in this race who trusts women and will protect our freedom to make our own health care decisions: Vice President Kamala Harris.”
Grizzlor wrote:https://x.com/MrJerryOC/status/18324981 … g&s=19
Getting the team back together...
How cool is that?
INCREDIBLE (to see these two guys together again)
It really is INCREDIBLE. And to see the words "Getting the team back together..."
For anyone not paying attention over the last 24 hours...the DOJ just cracked down on two of some of the most well-known personalities amplifying Russian Election Disinformation Campaigns from the following folks:
Tim Pool
Benny Johnson
I would beware of Elon Musk too.
https://x.com/cwebbonline/status/1831684279233044507
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https://x.com/nickreeves9876/status/1831615664647274662
Please somebody do something about my blood pressure. I just had to tune into the CNN JD Vance interview and it was a train wreck of lies. Every word from that couch humper took my blood pressure up 10 points per word. Shame on CNN for providing that couch humper with a platform. Yes, I did watch Kamala and Tim's interview last night and it was masterful. Anyway......
Top lies from the interview aka JD Vance is a freaking liar:
"Trump just wants the Dobbs decision to go back to the states the federal government should not decide what Christian hospitals can do." - Me: Ugh. 'nuff said. A vote for Trump is a vote for the end of women's rights.
"Kamala opened up the border." - Me: See next comment.
"She hasn't done anything in 3.5 years about the border and saying that she wants to do something about the border while looking in the eyes of the American people is shameful." Me: Yeah because your people killed the border bill on Trump's order.
"We have top democrats working for us who voted against Kamala in 2020 including RFK Jr." Me: HAHAHAHAHAHA - RFK Jr. is a right wing extremist anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist nut job with a brain worm, you fool. Where have you been?
QuinnSlidr wrote:ireactions - You did ask for a representative. The other James above that you mention is not a government rep. smile Otherwise I probably would have included who you did.
Semantics, I know...oh, well...
I think you are confused. The James Carville Jr. you mentioned and quoted is the same person I quoted. Carville Jr. is not a Republican. However, Carville Jr. is also strongly opposed to the social justice focus of a number of Democrats, in particular Bernie Sanders.
On further review you are correct. Nevermind!
Gina Carano is a nutjob. Studios have a moral obligation to not have transphobic anti-vaxxers using the platform of studio projects to espouse and disseminate bigotry and false health information. When people complain about consequences for transphobic comments or fake health information, they're complaining about being held responsible for incredibly harmful behaviour.
I am a big fan of her work especially on the movie HAYWIRE but even my adoration for Gina Carano isn't going to blind me to what she is: a delusional bigot whom Disney would no longer supply a platform. No one is entitled to international stardom to perpetuate prejudice and to tell people not to protect themselves from COVID-19.
James Carville Jr. is a retired Democratic strategist and... a mixed bag. He's had ridiculous comments, claiming that women are to blame for the struggles of present day Democrats when maybe, just maybe, the problem was the tired white dude at the top of the party. (Maybe. I'm still thinking about that.)
Carville's argument is: the Electoral College means that a small amount of American voters ultimate determine who wins the White House, the Senate and the House -- and campaigns focused on "woke left" voters don't acquire the numbers needed to win in the unbalanced political system of America.
The Black Lives Matter protests were often met with police officers attacking protestors to trigger fights to justify arrests, or firing upon vehicles just passing by. But the protests were also just really destructive; burning down police precincts strikes me as insane no matter what issues one has with police.
The situation in Israel and Gaza is incredibly difficult and I find that anyone saying they stand with Isreal or Palestine is lacking in nuance and simply picking a brand. Grizzlor highlighted the ignorant lunacy of the "Gays for Palestine" banners when homosexuality is criminalized in Gaza. The October 2023 attack on Israel was horrific. The support for Israel's attacks on civilians is deranged.
The Biden presidency is in an impossible situation, funding and supplying Israel because it gives them a seat at the table for ceasefire negotiations, and Biden has called Benjamin Netanyahu an "asshole" for this genocide in which Biden is resistantly complicit. There are no easy answers, no good solutions, and I would suggest a civilians-centric message over supporting one side or the other.
The whole Bud beer promotion is absurd and ridiculous on every level. People are absurd and ridiculous to criticize Anheuser-Busch for marketing their beer with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney like diversity is to be shamed. Anheuser-Busch is absurd and ridiculous for not recognizing that a massive portion of their sales come from transphobic individuals and the loss of their custom would affect their sales.
Anheuser-Busch was further ridiculous in cutting ties with Dylan Mulvaney which led to the LGTBTQ boycotting Anheuser-Busch, which meant Anheuser-Busch was now boycotted by both bigots and allies on both sides. America is absurd and ridiculous for being a country where a transgender woman holding a beer on social media is some sort of crisis.
Grizzlor seems to be implying that diversity needs to be curtailed, that transphobia needs to be respected, and that consequences for sexual harassment and falsehood (which he describes as cancel culture) need to be suspended. That sounds insane and ridiculous to me, so perhaps I'm misreading him.
Perhaps he is saying that Anheuser-Busch wandered into a fight they were not equipped to win if the goal was to sell beer to everyone including the transphobic.
Perhaps he is saying: the devotedly woke-left demographic is too narrow a coalition to win Electoral College victories where a handful of votes can make all the difference.
Perhaps he is saying that, fairly or unfairly, Democrats can't win by campaigning on social justice ideology alone.
Perhaps he is saying that Democrats need votes from aggrieved white men, from people who don't subscribe wholeheartedly to Black Lives Matter, from people who get weirdly triggered when a transgender woman holds a beer on social media.
He wouldn't be wrong; Democrats need those voters too.
James Carville Jr. wrote:Do we want to be an ideological cult or do we want to have a majoritarian instinct to be a majority party?
The urban core is not gonna get it done. What we need is power! Do you understand? That’s what this is about.
The fate of the world depends on the Democrats getting their shit together and winning in November. We have to beat Trump. The Republicans have destroyed their party and turned it into a personality cult, but if anyone thinks they can’t win, they’re out of their damn minds.
You’re not going to change the turnout model. It’s never been done and it’s not going to be done. Eighteen percent of the country elects more than half of our senators. That’s the deal, fair or not.
The party has to have a majoritarian instinct. We’ve got to be skilled enough to excite our most important voters, African Americans, to get our own new exciting demographic out, these college-educated women, and also to cut into the margins in the more rural and small-town parts of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, places like that.
The purpose of a political party is to acquire power. All right? Without power, nothing matters. It means building coalitions to win elections. It means sometimes having to sit back and listen to what people think and framing your message accordingly.
We can’t do anything for anyone if we don’t start there and then acquire more power. Without power, you have nothing. You just have talking points.
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21172111/ ..... podcast
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics .. s-carville
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/20 .. cal-cult/
ireactions - You did ask for a representative. The other James above that you mention is not a government rep. 
Otherwise I probably would have included who you did.
Semantics, I know...oh, well...
ireactions wrote:Grizzlor wrote:The young female-led, almost nonstop, social media cancel police from the left is completely un-American
Can you identify any representatives of this subgroup of Democrats you're highlighting and who they've cancelled over what? Because without clarification, this just comes off as a remark from someone who is scared of girls and young people.
The rest seems like reasonable opinion. I mean... it is going to be a close election.
Well Carville is a tad crass, and he generalized that to be, "don't eat hamburgers, don't watch football, don't drink beer." Referring to the problem as ""The message is too feminine."
Gina Carano is a prominent example. She refused to conform to the pronoun police, and lost her job. The backlash to corporate wokeness nearly put Bud Light out of business, and recently threatened to take Harley-Davidson of all things down, too. It's not specific Democrat Party language but many of them have been caught in it. The George Floyd/BLM demonstrations frequently turned violent, and Joe Biden was often the ONLY major party leader condemning it, that included Kamala who stupidly created bail programs which were used by violent criminals. There was also a firing line, both by Democratic leaders, pundits, members of the press, pointing to anyone who attempted to suggest a lab leak on COVID, as well. Then you have civic leaders of major cities, who hide tributes to Founding Fathers and other past American leaders, out of fear of the woke left, while they allow rampant mentally compromised homelessness, and continue to be blind to repeat violent criminals who seem to be unable to be kept in prison.
Again, I felt like Kamala Harris spoke to some of this, but it's not where the larger party has been. That's why I said it is difficult to argue with Robert Kennedy Jr.'s dismay with the left and its clamp down on free speech. And yes, the party's platform has been a problem with blue collar men in this country. It's soft on crime (bail reform, condoned shoplifting), far too supportive of migrants, and well too entrenched in the "equity" game. Men see all this, and get very concerned over their collective future, especially economically. That's at least how I can best explain it. This is why I feel like a lot of men have gone to Trump. I have many, many anecdotal examples of people I know. And as Carville continues to harp, the identity politics from the far left have been a major burden to this party nationally. Kept alive only by the far WORSE of the right. These were principles that Bill Clinton led on decades ago, where have they gone? The party has allowed the dumb left to hijack it. Again, thank goodness for Kamala willing to go with American Exceptionalism in her speech. Enough with the left's overt hatred of America because it keeps them in business, the business of racial identity politics.
In any event, it's really irrelevant at this point. There's two months left, I'm not sure there's many minds left to change. RFK Jr. probably should have been allowed to at least speak to Kamala. His ideas on food safety, microplastics, and climate change are very critical to the Democratic agenda. Unfortunately, because he questions the efficacy of the pharmaceutical industry, he is person non grata. I still don't think it will matter much in this election, but it might. Either way, it's something that is bubbling out there. The FDA, USDA, CDC, and EPA are close to useless. The American people are poisoned to death. Just look at the incredible growth in cancer diagnoses among younger and younger age groups, who don't abuse alcohol or use tobacco products. Something needs to be done. It's an issue that I highly doubt Trump will give much oxygen to, which is why Kennedy is an idiot, but I do believe that if he did, that's a much stronger platform than he had a week ago.
Gina Carano came under fire for re-tweeting a tweet that said, according to Variety:
https://ew.com/tv/mandalorian-gina-cara … ram-posts/
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She came under fire on Wednesday after re-sharing a post, which compared modern American politics to Nazi Germany and claimed that having differing political views in 2021 was like being Jewish during the Holocaust.
"Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don't realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views," the since-deleted post read, according to Variety.
The post also featured a famous image from the 1941 Lviv pogroms, during which Jewish men and women were massacred by their own neighbors.
While that post drew the most ire, she also shared memes mocking the California mask mandate in the fight against COVID-19, comparing Trump's second impeachment trial to Groundhog Day, and expressing her belief that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.
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I am assuming you're meaning right wing pundit James Carville, republican who has been featured on Hannity on FOX News.
Being entirely respectful here to your opinion Grizzlor: What happened to Gina Carano has nothing to do with cancel culture and is absolutely unacceptable in a modern society and she deserved to be fired for saying what she did and including antisemitic tweets in what she re-tweeted. It has nothing to do with being woke but spreading antisemitic hatred and violent language against Jews.
Also: there was no lab leak of COVID-19. The facts are that it is a natural virus that mutated and made the jump from animals to humans. And that continues to remain the facts today. Anyone deserves to be criticized for saying it's a lab leak, which is an entirely fictional lie created by right wing pundits and media.
It's not a clamp down on free speech but using speech to help others feel included, valued, and equal members of society. In my opinion, those on the right who are speaking out against this are speaking out because they are not able to be freely racist and misogynistic when talking about certain members of society anymore. And that's why they are upset. Not because of the "clamp down on free speech". They just want the license to call women what they want, and other members of society what they want. And Trump allows them to do that and be their worst selves.
Anyway, I am assuming you mean what Carville said here about "preachy females":
https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-car … -dont-care
James Carville's criticism is entirely baseless, however. Because of what I mentioned above. His comments are also incredibly offensive, because that's not the idea at all. He's trying to lie and bring right wing pundits over to his side in order to either get votes, vote for Trump, or away from Kamala Harris through fear and intimidation tactics.
In your quest for both sides information Grizzlor, I hope that you're not taking too much of what the other side says to heart, because they are very very wrong the majority of the time. And most times they criticize, like in the case of James Carville, they miss the point.
Trump will run again in four years if he loses. These campaigns have been a gold mine for him.
Not if he dies before then he won't. Don't forget, he's 80.
Slider_Quinn21 wrote:I basically watched nothing from the DNC this week - it's just been a bad week for down time. Sounds like Harris' speech was good enough. I saw a little roundtable of undecided Pennsylvania voters, and all but two of them were convinced to vote Harris after the speech.
She said she would schedule a national TV interview before the end of the month. Hopefully she does that - it's free publicity for her and super important, especially coming off the DNC.
Night 3 was pretty good. Bubba went a bit off script and rambled. Tim Walz was great.
Night 4 was superb. Steady stream of successful governors, Republicans, even cops. Kamala gave what I would call a "I'll run through a brick wall for you" speech. When I was screaming for Joe Biden to get off the train tracks, like most I really had no clue what to expect from the VP. The instant super star rise in the polls was a massive surprise. Really amazing just how many topics she covered in that speech, barely missing a beat. There was something for everyone, but the most forceful I felt was when she spoke about keeping a "lethal military" and defending allies and standing up to dictators. Wow, look out world, you do NOT want to mess with this woman!!!!!
I would say the theme coming from this convention is clear, Donald Trump is old, withered, and mentally bankrupt. As it should be. He is in serious trouble on September 10th.
Supposedly RFK Jr. is dumping his financially bankrupt campaign about an hour from now. Most believe he will then appear alongside Trump in Phoenix, although this hasn't been confirmed. If he does that, frankly, he will need a divorce lawyer.
100% correct on all points, Grizzlor.
I am cautiously optimistic that as Dems, we are actually gonna win this thing and Trump the old, withered, and mentally bankrupt dude will die a political death in the polls, never to be heard from again beyond fringe groups on the edge of politics.
By the way, I hope you will accept my apologies for how I took your language the other day, Grizzlor. I think both a combination of being on a high from the DNC and the way discussions went at that time led to that result and a confusing misinterpretation of the conversation on my side. And for that, I apologize.
One other interesting thing. I'm not entirely sure how Trump counters any national coverage that Harris gets. Harris was on national TV with her speech, and then her speech was covered by the morning shows (local and national).
Trump called in to Fox News and then Newsmax. He didn't reach anyone undecided.
Not only that, I haven't seen a single ad for him. Now I'm in Texas and my YouTube algorithm should clearly know that not going to vote for Trump, but I haven't seen anything. I see a Harris ad almost every time I turn on YouTube. I haven't seen a Harris ad on TV (which is good, I think, no reason to spend the money), but I have seen some ads for Colin Allred on Hulu and on the morning news.
So how is Trump reaching undecideds with his strategy? Is it all TV advertising in certain states?
It would have to be all through FOX News or Newsmax. Those are the two networks in which he has total control. And both of those broadcast a significantly altered version of reality, not to mention the facts, to these viewers so he can hold onto his base.
Also, if you're a Trumper and you're online, you're gonna follow him on Truth Social and Twitter. He broadcasts all his ire and personal attacks on Twitter and Truth Social too, and is now free from moderation thanks to Elon Musk. Don't underestimate his following.
Also, these people like Trump because he hates who they hate. And he gives them permission to be openly racist and misogynist. So he doesn't really have to advertise all that much nowadays I would imagine after having established himself in the political game.
After an atrociously poorly managed first night, featuring an embarrassing slight to the current President, night two was a bit less disjointed, and featured three terrific speeches by Doug, Michelle, and President O. Michelle brought the house down with a one liner (as she's become famous for) about "Trump applying now for one of those 'black jobs'" I nearly fell off my chair. Obama himself was typically on a roll. I'm not sure how many people on the East Coast saw them, as once again, they all went on it seemed past 10PM. Truly hope the rest of this campaign is better managed than this. Just hope eyeballs in WI, MI, AZ, and NV were watching, because most of PA were asleep, again.
Professional pro-Gaza protestors have literally been walled off from the proceedings outside, while more of the news yesterday was generated by Nichole Shanahan, Kennedy's running mate, complaining on a podcast that their campaign was effectively finished after Biden dropped out. She even opined openly about whether to simply quit and endorse Trump. For those who would immediately be freaked out by this, I'm not one of them. RFK Jr., who is currently blaming Democratic PAC's for keeping him off state ballots for technicalities (has a point actually), has his remaining support with true independents, and those who refuse to support either party. Yes, some supporters would wind up voting Trump, and might do so whether he stays in or not. I would argue that most simply won't vote, largely feeling betrayed if Kennedy backs anyone else. I'm unconvinced he would do that though. Trump and Elon Musk has been babbling about making him "Secretary of Efficiency," a post that does not exist, cannot exist without Congress, and thus is completely meaningless. Trump would never go through with an RJK Jr. appointment, despite railing against lobbyists the other day. Trump is betrothed to a laundry list of billionaire CEO's that collectively would become targets for Kennedy's ideology. I feel like Bobby knows this, he's not an idiot.
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QuinnSlidr wrote:That is true. He does have every right to speak critically of a politician. Just like I have every right to say that he is wrong.
Would you want to stay silent when someone says 2+2=5? It's not just a disagreement in that regard. He's subtly saying that he hates black people and women without actually coming out and saying so. Notice how he disparaged the women and black speakers but praised only the white man speaker? You can't hate both women and black men and praise only the white man without being a racist and a misogynist.
That's not going to stand with me.
PS: Hillary is controversial (among Democrats) because of her backhanded tactics, not just political positions. She drove millions of people to Donald Trump for Heaven's sake, because they viewed her as corrupt and conniving. Even my old man, a life long Democrat, skipped that election due to how much she displeased him. I understand having her speak, but at the expense of Biden, completely stupid. BTW, despite my hatred of black women, I found the best, shorter speech of that night to have come from Texas representative Jasmine Crockett, who went viral for putting Marjorie Taylor Green in her place during a hearing. Sorry, Warnock went TOO LONG and his preacher rabble rousing does nothing for independent voters. Andy Beshear, a white guy, was also boring. The point remains, the current President deserved to be given the primary speaking slot, and the DNC screwed up.
My opinions remain in line with my stated viewpoint since this election began, defeating Trump. Had I had yours, Joe Biden would still be in this race and well on his way to a double digit loss.
Wow, you're admitting you hate black women on this board?
Not cool, dude. Not cool.
Grizzlor wrote:Why is Hilary Clinton STILL given prime time?
QuinnSlidr wrote to Grizzlor: Hillary nailed it with her incredible speech, you anti-Hillary biased shill. If you don't like dems, perhaps republicans are more your thing?
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Hillary Clinton is a public figure, and Grizzlor has every right to be critical of her.
I know I've had issues with Grizzlor in the past, but he has every right to speak critically of any politician or public figure, as do you. He has every right to question Hillary Clinton's presence just as you had every right to call her speech incredible.
QuinnSlidr wrote:If it weren't for the electoral college FRAUD in 2016, she would have been president. Not that horrible excuse of a human being.
I understand that the electoral college is unfair, and I suppose I can see it as a form of procedural fraud to subvert the popular vote -- but the implication of calling it fraud without qualification is to call it illegal... and it isn't. It's the system we have. It isn't fair, but it isn't fraud in the form of criminal deception, which is the conventional definition of "fraud".
I recognize that it is outrageous, but just because you and I despise something does not make it fraud in legal terms. We also shouldn't conflate the influence of foreign powers in 2016 with actual election fraud when Democrats from Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton herself have denied that the elections were fraudulent. We don't get to cry fraud just because we lost.
Slider_Quinn21 wrote:No personal attacks, guys.
Thank you for saying that. Sorry I wasn't here sooner. My favourite actress has been ill. I've been busy.
That is true. He does have every right to speak critically of a politician. Just like I have every right to say that he is wrong.
Would you want to stay silent when someone says 2+2=5? It's not just a disagreement in that regard. He's subtly saying that he hates black people and women without actually coming out and saying so. Notice how he disparaged the women and black speakers but praised only the white man speaker? You can't hate both women and black men and praise only the white man without being a racist and a misogynist.
That's not going to stand with me.
Again, we need to be careful about the language we use. Trump and his campaign were involved in illegal activities, and I think he *attempted* voter fraud. But voter fraud involves using fake votes for a candidate or throwing out legitimate votes for an opponent. There has been very low numbers of true voter fraud in any election and nowhere near enough to change any results.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-looked-20 … wijLJ8GxNj
The Trump campaign (and Republicans in general) are responsible for gerrymandering, voter suppression, manipulation of facts and news that harm Trump's opponents), and tons of election interference. But I wouldn't consider any of that to be voter fraud.
The difference, in my opinion, is that accusations of voter fraud hurts democracy and undermines our elections. Trump is a criminal responsible for all kinds of election-related crimes. But we have to be very clear when we talk, otherwise we open up the idea that democracy is broken. And it is not. Our elections are secure enough that true voter fraud is extremely rare, and that's a good thing. If Trump stole an election then it opens up the idea that Biden stole an election and Harris can steal an election. And I don't want to go down that path.
Trump did a lot of bad things in 2016 and 2020, but he won in 2016 and lost in 2020.
Some good points, Slider_Quinn21. But I think we also need to be real here and say that things were not right on the Trump side at all. We can't just say that nothing or (no-subject) happened either.
Actually, in 2016, Hillary won where it mattered - the popular vote by 2.9 million votes. The Trump weasel f*cker only got in because he knew how to manipulate and fraud the electoral college.
No personal attacks, guys. One of the great things about our democracy is the ability to disagree and still speak civilly (I've never used this word before in text and it looks super weird written out). We're all on the same team, and Grizzlor isn't some sort of secret MAGA person. He wants Trump to lose, but coming at it from a different angle. I've been a part of this board with him for years and I'll vouch for him for whatever that's worth.
And I think it's clear to separate the difference between interference and fraud. Fraud implies that votes were switched or conducted illegally. That's the language that Trump (and tons of republicans) use. There's very little evidence of any fraud in 2016 or 2020. There was interference in 2016 (and 2020 and there will be in 2024), but Trump's election win (like Biden's) was legitimate. And it's counterproductive for our democracy to say otherwise.
And to be fair, there were irregularities in 2020 related to laws that were (maybe illegally) changed for covid that possibly assisted in Biden winning. That's also not fraud, despite what Trump and his allies and his voters want you to think.
No, the fake elector scheme on Trump team in 2020 was clear fraud. And many have been stripped of either their law license or otherwise levied consequences against for participating in this fake electors scheme to help elect Trump
It's unfair to the Justice Department officials to who have been doing their work on these cases to bring these criminals to justice to say there was no fraud in either year.
There was plenty of fraud on the Trump side in 2016 and 2020.
QuinnSlidr wrote:Grizzlor wrote:Celebrity endorsements do nothing. The polls are going to fluctuate, and they each have their own weighting and methodology, to overlay onto the sample results. This is why I don't get caught up in them, or check on them.
Somehow I'm still awake, very good speech by President Biden. I didn't watch most of the rest. Why is Hilary Clinton STILL given prime time? Poor Biden didn't get to speak until 11PM Eastern. I thought the Warnock speech took forever and was useless.
Hillary nailed it with her incredible speech, you anti-Hillary biased shill. If you don't like dems, perhaps republicans are more your thing?
The reason why Hillary is given prime time is because she is still doing important work to move the democratic party forward. She still won the popular vote in 2016 by 2.9 million votes over Trump (Hitler). If it weren't for the electoral college FRAUD in 2016, she would have been president. Not that horrible excuse of a human being.
And oh yes, both Hillary and Warnock were excellent.
You have absolutely zero knowledge of these individuals and their speeches to even bother commenting with your own uninformed opinion. And it shows with your ridiculous, asinine comments that I find zero value in reading when all they amount to are shallow attacks against dems. And you still wonder why I think you're a republican plant operative trying to claim you're democratic? It's because of comments like these.
Why don't you stick to polls?
You sound ridiculous. Hillary blew that election, entirely of her own regard. There was no fraud in 2016, don't sound like a MAGA tool. She also ran a particularly nasty campaign against Obama, then later Bernie, and made far more enemies among voters with her entitlement. She is an electoral LOSER, who the party needs to finally GET OVER. They just don't understand how voters just can't stand her. AOC had more business speaking than her, at least she's still in Congress, and popular with the youth. Again, nonsensical that the PRESIDENT is forced to speak in the middle of the night because these nobodies or has been's hogged the stage.
Meanwhile, my "shallow attacks" are WARNINGS son. When you're busy balling your eyes out in November, I'll be shrugging "I told you so." You mercilessly screamed at me for pointing out the OBVIOUS with Joe Biden for months. Biden would have lost this election by 10 points! He finally relented and quit, and gave the DNC a shot. I guess I was a GOP plant for that one? Or that I was also correct that Trump would avoid nearly all legal entanglements.
Can only pray that Obama steers this convention back to sanity tonight.
You're the one who is sounding ridiculous. Attacking every democrat who is a woman or black because you don't respect them. You only respect white males for President or government positions. Whoop-de-doo.
"There was no fraud in 2016." Bullsh*t. Russia helped Trump all the way in 2016 with extensive social media manipulation through Cambridge Analytica. Don't kid yourself. You're the one who is sounding like a MAGA tool by claiming "there was no fraud in 2016". There is ample evidence indicating there was, including the Mueller report.
Celebrity endorsements do nothing. The polls are going to fluctuate, and they each have their own weighting and methodology, to overlay onto the sample results. This is why I don't get caught up in them, or check on them.
Somehow I'm still awake, very good speech by President Biden. I didn't watch most of the rest. Why is Hilary Clinton STILL given prime time? Poor Biden didn't get to speak until 11PM Eastern. I thought the Warnock speech took forever and was useless.
Hillary nailed it with her incredible speech, you anti-Hillary biased shill. If you don't like dems, perhaps republicans are more your thing?
The reason why Hillary is given prime time is because she is still doing important work to move the democratic party forward. She still won the popular vote in 2016 by 2.9 million votes over Trump (Hitler). If it weren't for the electoral college FRAUD in 2016, she would have been president. Not that horrible excuse of a human being.
And oh yes, both Hillary and Warnock were excellent.
You have absolutely zero knowledge of these individuals and their speeches to even bother commenting with your own uninformed opinion. And it shows with your ridiculous, asinine comments that I find zero value in reading when all they amount to are shallow attacks against dems. And you still wonder why I think you're a republican plant operative trying to claim you're democratic? It's because of comments like these.
Why don't you stick to polls?
I would really love it if Swift would go ahead and endorse Harris. I understand not wanting to be overly political, but it would be really great. I know celebrity endorsements are pretty worthless, but she has a really devoted fanbase. They're already mobilizing for Harris, but I'd love to move it from unofficial to official.
Same here. I hope Trump pisses her off just enough to let loose and just do it. She's endorsed Biden before too.
Lawsuit from Taylor Swift incoming in 5...4...3...she will destroy him.
https://x.com/Kanew/status/1825374995163251108
Harris Campaign's Legal Team 10 Times the Size of Biden's in 2020
They just added Marc Elias to their team. Go, Kamala!!!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/17/us/e … ;sgrp=c-cb
The campaign is adding Marc Elias, one of the party’s top election lawyers, to help Democrats counter what they expect to be a contentious postelection period.
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Amid threats of certification battles and mass voter challenges, Vice President Kamala Harris’s presidential campaign has assembled an expansive senior legal team that will oversee hundreds of lawyers and thousands of volunteers in a sprawling operation designed to be a bulwark against what Democrats expect to be an aggressive Republican effort to challenge voters, rules and, possibly, the results of the 2024 election.
The legal apparatus within the Harris campaign will oversee multiple aspects of the election program, including voter protection, recounts and general election litigation, and it is adding Marc Elias, one of the party’s top election lawyers, to focus on potential recounts.
The legal group is headed by Bob Bauer, who served as personal counsel to President Biden for years, and Dana Remus, the general counsel to the 2020 Biden campaign, and also includes Maury Riggan, the general counsel for the Harris campaign. Josh Hsu, formerly from the vice president’s office, will join the team, and Vanita Gupta, a former director of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and a top Biden Justice Department official, is an informal adviser.
The campaign will also lean on the top lawyers at three prominent law firms — Seth Waxman, Donald Verrilli and John Devaney — to handle litigation, and deploy local counsel to eight battleground states and four other states of interest.
Mr. Elias, who has had tensions with Mr. Bauer and other Democratic lawyers in the past, will also bring lawyers from his growing firm, Elias Law Group. He has also previously worked for Ms. Harris, serving as general counsel for her primary campaign in 2020.
Ms. Remus said in a statement that the legal team had been working “uninterrupted over the last four years, building strategic plans in key states, adding more talent and capacity, and preparing for all possible scenarios.”
“This year, like in 2020, we have the nation’s finest lawyers at the table, ready to work together tirelessly to ensure our election will be free, fair and secure — and to ensure that all eligible voters will be able to cast their ballots, knowing their votes will be counted,” Ms. Remus said.
The origins of the effort date back to July 2020, when Walter Dellinger, a former acting solicitor general, called top officials on Mr. Biden’s legal team saying they needed to create “something we’ve never created before,” because the Trump campaign and its allies were beginning to bring cases and lay the groundwork for litigation.
With the lessons of 2020 still fresh in Democrats’ minds, Harris advisers claim that the legal team is about 10 times the size of the 2020 operation.
The expansive new Democratic legal team, and the opposing group at the Republican National Committee, is a reflection of the legal arms race that is the new reality of American elections since Mr. Trump’s election victory in 2016. The battle over whose votes count — not just how many votes are counted — has become central to modern presidential campaigns.
Rogan's weird. I think people associate him with Trump, but I think he falls more into the RFK Jr. crowd. I've never listened to him or his podcast (I don't watch MMA so I don't see him there either), but the sense I get from reading others is that he's much more in the RFK camp. Now since RFK and MAGA overlaps, I assume he needs to keep those people happy.
He's actually been in trouble with MAGA before and had to backstep what people assumed was an endorsement of RFK. Interestingly enough, Kyle Rittenhouse had to do the same thing when he was bullied by MAGA after he said Trump wasn't pro-gun enough.
RFK Jr. IS Trump. They are mutually exclusive. He backs Trump, Trump backs him. Can't have one without the other. He's MAGA.
Trump just lost Joe Rogan...
Grizzlor wrote:The key is that Trump voters actually get out and vote. People have curtailed a lot of spending, on vacations, and other options, as expenses driven by inflation remain very high. Not sure how anecdotal, but my gosh the number of brick and mortar chains of every kind that are closing or going bankrupt. It's crazy, where are people working? That's why I remain cautiously optimistic. As dour and deranged as Trump will continue to be, he can very easily win. I remain skeptical, because Harris could well accumulate the majority of late deciders, and STILL lose. Trump's support is close to it's ceiling, but it's also rock solid, I do not expect slippage there.
I do agree with QuinnSlidr that enthusiasm for Harris is close to what it is for Trump. I also wonder if there are portions of Trump's coalition that are fracturing a bit. Some people don't love the Vance pick. Some of the white supremacists don't love that Vance has a non-white wife. He's losing momentum with some of the blue collar workers as he attacks unions. He's lost some of the "anti-Biden" vote (although I assume a lot of that was also anti-Harris).
People love to vote against someone as much as they love to vote for someone, and at the moment, I don't think the average person hates Harris. I think they either don't know anything about her or like her a little bit. Her approval is actually above water in a lot of polls which seems crazy at this polarizing time.
My point was that Trump still seems to be peaking, and he's still losing in the polls. Since he doesn't ever reach out to the center, he's going to struggle to make up that difference.
But even then, I think there's all types of scenarios where Trump wins. Whether it be Election Day chaos, post-election day chaos, shy Trump voters, polling errors, or whatever.
She needs to start meeting the criticism. She needs to lay out her policy plans, and she needs to start doing interviews / press conferences.
Well she's doing that on Friday:
Kamala Harris to release her first major economic plan as a presidential candidate
The key is that Trump voters actually get out and vote. People have curtailed a lot of spending, on vacations, and other options, as expenses driven by inflation remain very high. Not sure how anecdotal, but my gosh the number of brick and mortar chains of every kind that are closing or going bankrupt. It's crazy, where are people working? That's why I remain cautiously optimistic. As dour and deranged as Trump will continue to be, he can very easily win. I remain skeptical, because Harris could well accumulate the majority of late deciders, and STILL lose. Trump's support is close to it's ceiling, but it's also rock solid, I do not expect slippage there.
There is one thing you're not counting: and that's Kamala breaking the new voter registrations record in one day.
And the fact that more than 230,000 voters have registered to vote in the past 3 weeks.
I don't think it's going to be as close as people think.
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1823495543445754181
QuinnSlidr wrote:She's 4 points ahead in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. That gets her to 270 electoral votes automatically.
I'm cautiously optimistic but I am pretty sure Trump is done.
She's right below the margin of error in those states in the latest polling. The polling averages are also a little lower than that, but the trends are going in the right direction. You're right about that, of course (assuming NE-2 which must not be taken for granted - it would be the most important district in the country if she keeps the blue wall.
But I would be absolutely terrified at 270-268. I know that we have things in place to protect an electoral win, but Trump has been working on this for four years. He's going to give this thing his best shot...not before Election Day but *after* it. I think he wants to overturn the election, maybe even more than winning it outright. He feels like he was cheated, and he wants to cheat someone else.
So even if the blue wall moved to comfortably in her column, even with polling errors baked in, we need to get at least two of Nevada/Georgia/Arizona/North Carolina. I think Trump is capable of flipping a state (and if she only gets Arizona and Nevada on top of the blue wall, Trump could simply flip Pennsylvania and win) so Harris needs to not only get to 270 but get high enough above 270 that Trump can't screw us all out of it.
I think she's on pace for that, but we'll see.
I don't think it's likely the way things are going for the Trump campaign (every step he takes makes things worse, and worse, and worse). We know she gets California, which is 54 electoral votes. That would put her at 324 electoral votes if that situation plays out and she gets California, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
There is no debating that outcome and it would be a landslide victory.
Another round of good polling for Harris. It was just one poll, but she's tied in North Carolina. Its not an exact science, but if she wins North Carolina, she's going to win the election (maybe as big as possible). Just like a month ago when they were talking about Trump winning Minnesota, that would've been best case for him.
Still a long way to go and Harris will have to defend herself on the debate stage and in interviews, but it's amazing how much things have flipped in such a short amount of time. She's on the inside track now.
She's 4 points ahead in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. That gets her to 270 electoral votes automatically.
I'm cautiously optimistic but I am pretty sure Trump is done.
One of my favorite facts about Tim Walz:
During his career as a high school teacher, in the same year, he coached the football team to a state title. AND served as the faculty advisor for the school's first gay-straight alliance club.
The more I learn about Tim Walz, the more I like.
Tim Walz came out swinging against Trump (Hitler). I am really liking him.
I'm disappointed it wasn't Buttigieg, but I'm still putting my big boy pants on, voting, and not changing my vote.
Tim Walz is literally America's Dad. And Trump Team has the couch humper for VP. LOL
Josh Shapiro really nailed it on his speech at Kamala's rally this afternoon. Amazingly well done.
All this is is a market correction, folks. We are still in a far better economy than we ever were under the convicted felon Trump (Hitler).
https://x.com/58bugeye/status/1820545823798603816
All propaganda and right wing lies. Nothing to worry about here.
https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1820665282605572306
All they are trying to do is cause mass panic and cause Black Monday itself. Stay the course...and don't panic.
https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1820614663886803027
Stay the course, ladies and gentlemen...ignore the propaganda.
https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1820638600582557860
I prefer Buttigieg. Never heard of any of these other people until they were in the running for VP. And Buttigieg has the name recognition.
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