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I watch nothing live, but the order in which they air does determine the order in which I watch things.

The CW has decided to run each of their four superhero shows on their own night, pairing none of the shows with each other.

Monday - Supergirl
Tuesday - Flash
Wednesday - Arrow
Thursday - Legends of Tomorrow

I'm sure they'll use this to make an entire week of programming for sweeps, either with a multi-part crossover or some sort of "theme" for each episode.  I think it's a bit interesting that they aren't pairing the shows with anything, but I guess they're hoping that those shows will help newer programming (like Frequency) find an audience.  And they're using their weakest show (LoT) pair with one of their bigger shows (Supernatural).

I mean unless Hillary gets indicted (and there's been so little movement on that front that I wonder if that's dead) I don't really know what surprises there could be.

Now considering the high impeachability of these two candidates, I think the VP selections will be interesting.  If I'm Paul Ryan, I'm getting my guy in there and calling for impeachment at the first chance (so February, I assume).  It'd be the strongest bi-partisanship ever, and Ryan would get who he wants in the Oval Office.

It might be interesting if Hillary goes with Elizabeth Warren.  So if the first woman ever elected is forced to resign quickly into her first term, at least women would get an immediate second chance.

Once it became Trump and Hillary, the whole process became no fun.  They're both so awful.  I don't have any more words for it.

That's pretty cool - you make a convincing Superman and a convincing Star-Lord.  I've never cosplayed, but I respect the people who do it when I go to conventions.  I know it's a ton of work, and it's really cool when people get so many details right.

Well, I just would like to see Smallville incorporated into the Arrowverse.  They could've easily added it into the montage of the other Earths (which made the original Flash TV show canon), but they didn't.  Since Tom-as-Superman probably won't show up on Arrow or Flash, I want him to appear on Supergirl.  It'd be weird, but it'd clinch the CW-DC universe as all being connected - including the great granddaddy of them all.

Well, I mean the problem is that there wasn't really any conflict in the movie so they just tacked on Doom in (literally) the last 20 minutes.  The first 20 minutes is just Reed and Ben.  Then they introduce Franklin and Sue.  Then Johnny.  Then they build it, go to the planet, and come back.  There's no villain in the first half of the movie except just "progress" I guess.  The planet is sorta evil and the main guy is sorta bureaucratic, but that's it. 

Then the second half really is a different movie.  Bureaucratic guy becomes "take over the world" evil, Reed runs off, Ben gets mad that he was abandoned, Johnny embraces his powers, and Sue is just helping or whatever.  Then Reed comes, fixes the machine in ten minutes, they get Doom back, he tries to destroy the world, and they team up to beat him.

So there's no villain until Doom shows up the last 10 minutes.  Doom wasn't really a bad guy before he transformed.  He never endangers the other guys (except maybe convincing them to go in the first place).  Bureaucracy guy just wants to move the project along - and even when he's using Ben (and then Johnny) as weapons, both seem pretty okay with it.  Doom is just tacked on so there's someone for them to fight.

If it was me, I'd leave the first part of the movie almost exactly the same.  I'd have Doom refuse to come back but start working on his own gateway with the Latverian government.  Reed and co finish the gateway first, go to the planet, and they get their powers by some accident.  A year passes.  Reed doesn't run off because that plot doesn't go anywhere.  The government uses Ben on some missions, but Franklin's been able to keep Johnny on the sidelines while Reed and Sue work on the gateway.  Meanwhile, Doom finds out that Reed got it to work when he sees what's happened to Ben.  So Latverian soldiers attack the facility, and the Four are able to fight off soldiers using their powers (an action piece where they work individually because it's super powers vs. normal soldiers).  In the chaos, Doom sneaks in and steals a vital piece to the gateway and gets away.  Back in Latveria, he completes his machine and goes along with a couple soldiers to Planet Zero.  Something bad happens, Doom gets left behind, one soldier dies, and the last soldier comes back horribly mutated (I don't know any other FF villains but Doom and Galactus so let's just say it's either one of their villains with a new origin or it's a new villain entirely).  The mutant starts wrecking the lab and Latveria asks for the Four's help.  So they go, struggle at first, and the defeat him as a team.  End credits scene shows Doom on Planet Zero, using his powers to create a gateway on his side.

More action, no cramming Doom into the finale, an extra action piece.  Not changing a ton.  Could've worked.

I do wonder how Trank figured on ending the film.  Because, again, there's no villain in the part of the story he seems to be affiliated with.

Has there been any indication on what Vaughn was going to do differently with Days of Future Past?

And, yeah, I think there's always some vagueness and confusion to any villain's plot.  But I just never really understood what Apocalypse's motivations were.  In the opening scene, he's ruling peacefully over Egypt.  He definitely saw normal humans as expendable and inferior, but I never got the idea that he was as hardcore about mutant superiority as Magneto was in the first three films.  If he wanted to exterminate the Egyptians, he could've.  And while they certainly feared him, he still had devout followers thousands of years later so they must've also loved him a bit.

I just found his character vague.  Which I thought was odd in a movie that was 150 minutes long.

I watched this movie today.  I thought it was fun.  There wasn't any point where I was bored, and it entertained me enough to ignore some of the goofier elements.

The continuity errors I've just chosen to ignore.  It doesn't fit, and it won't fit.  Characters exist in multiple timelines for no reason.  The time travel doesn't help or hurt the process in my opinion because things have already been ripped to shreds.  There are two Trasks, two Angels, two Emma Frosts, two Hank McCoys.  Some of it could possibly be the result of time travel, but a lot of it can't. 

The most bizarre thing about the series is the power that Jennifer Lawrence has had over it.  The series hit the jackpot with Lawrence a) being a pretty great actress and b) being a superstar.  But the problem with that is that she ended up being such a superstar that they had to make her the focus of the whole universe.  In DOFP, she's the key to the whole sentinel project.  In this one, she's basically a messiah figure for the mutants.  It's a wonder she wasn't chosen to be one of the horsemen.

The other bizarre thing is how little understanding I had for Apocalypse, his motives, or his power set.  It's almost a little bit like Scarlet Witch.  I could probably write a paragraph about what I think his powers are, but it's just a guess.  Apocalypse seemed really powerful, and the movie said he was really powerful.  But he never seemed to really put anyone in any danger.  He seemed powerful enough to hold people off, but it was Magneto who was really destroying the world. 

And his plan seemed a little confusing.  If the plan is steal Charles' power and control everyone, why would he want/need Magneto to destroy everything?  If the plan was to destroy everything in some sort of "only the strong survive" scenario, I don't see how some mutants would have any more ability to survive than normal humans.  Charles, for example, is crazy powerful, but Stryker would be much more likely to escape the chaos caused by Magneto. 

I was also surprised that we saw Wolverine as much as we did.  And I was also surprised that the Mystique twist at the end of DOFP didn't go anywhere.  I mean Singer made both films.  Did he just forget?

But it seems like the movies are going in a cool direction.  They have a big enough / young enough cast that they really just need McAvoy to keep coming back.  If they can get Gambit off the ground, then maybe he can be the new Wolverine to appear in most movies. 

But, yeah, I'd maybe like to see another voice get to do this.  I don't know if Singer is burned out, but Matthew Vaughn did a great job with First Class.  Having him do another one or letting someone young give it a shot could be cool.

I liked a lot of the stuff that was in there.  Looked like there's a more human Clark, more characterization for Bruce, more motivation for Lex. 

I've said before that there could've been some minor tweaks to take the movie from "good" to "great" - if the movie has more of that, then that's all the better.  But it'd make me mad that they didn't just include the "Ultimate Cut" in theaters.  By the time the movie is released on DVD, the damage might be done with general audiences.

Well there's a few episodes where the various ships go down to skeleton crews, and they can still function.  There's the episode where the Doctor is the only one on the ship, right?  And still manages to win a battle, right?

In the episode where Voyager turned out to be duplicates, the crew was just Harry and Seven, right? 

You gotta think a great deal of the crew would have to be maintenance and cleaning, right?  Those ships are always running at top efficiency and look brand new every day.

Ha, I'd actually be one of the few ones who'd love a direct connection between Trek and Terminator.

It's funny - in Trek, there's almost a complete absence of artificial intelligence, isn't there?  The computer doesn't seem capable of independent thought so she's basically just Siri.  There's Data, of course, but he's a novelty....in the whole galaxy.  The Doctor is sentient, but he seems like advanced technology.  There's the sentient robots that Voyager comes across.  I remember a TNG where a woman invented some sort of robot that gained sentience.

But that's it, right?

It's bizarre.  And what's crazy is that nothing is automated.  When something is dangerous on the ship, someone physically has to go into the room to fix it (see Wrath of Khan).  I mean, right now we have bomb disposal robots and drones to do work too dangerous for people.  In Trek, there's nothing.  And even if humans were afraid of AI for some reason, all of the other species had the same fear of AI.  It probably makes sense for the Klingons, but no one has it.

Maybe it's an evolution thing.  Species that develop AI get wiped out by it.  Species that don't survive.

I think they could do subtle updates to the tech without being too disloyal to the original shows.  A PADD was just a less-fancy tablet.  Make it a little better, and it works.  Less buttons and more touchscreens.  The new movies did a lot of this stuff (Kirk and Scotty have a conversation on a "cell phone" across the galaxy).

I think that's sorta the way I'd do it.  Keep the look and feel of the old tech but update it slightly to make it more relatable.

Yeah, I think its an interesting development, although I know virtually nothing about Captain America comics.

It's strange that people freak out if they do something crazy, and they freak out when things are boring.  Captain America won't stay evil, and no one that ever dies will stay dead.

Yeah, the fact that the Arrowverse is *already* an alternate timeline makes things so much more confusing.  You guys know I love shared universes, and the idea that they could disrupt four shows with this one movie is pretty enticing to me, but I just don't feel like they'll have to freedom to really do an Arrowverse event like that.  Have a darker version of Oliver - have drastically different characters across all the shows.  Make Barry's decision really resonate.

The problem is that they've already made Barry a much darker character this season, and I don't know if this was the right way to go.  I didn't love the Zoom storyline because it was too much like the Thawne storyline.  And I think the Flash needs to be more fun than it was this season.  And I think burdening Barry again is just a bad idea.

I think it would've been better if he'd somehow ended up in the Flashpoint universe at the end of season two (maybe beating Zoom sent him there).  And then he could spend a couple episodes in a darker universe where he'd see the consequences of embracing his darkness and saving his mother.  And, honestly, maybe that's what Earth 2 should've been this season.

The main problem is that they had that great episode where Barry entered the Speed Force and accepted that his mother loved him.  Then his dad died.  Then he undid everything by saving his mother.  It was a ton of mixed signals that did away with some good development.  Now Barry is literally back and square one.

Was it the speaking or the fact that he couldn't touch anything?  Barry doesn't usually speak when he's doing stuff, does he?  For the normal people on the street?

The question I keep having is "how much would Berlanti be willing to let this affect his whole universe?"  Because, you're right - Kara is protected, and I don't know if Legends would be affected (although they might be the ones who have to deal with the repercussions now that I think about it).  But I imagine they're going to want to have a scene in the Flash premiere next year where you get some version of Dark Oliver as part of some sort of Flashpoint parallel (Oliver being the replacement for Batman). 

But if this is going to go beyond the premiere, would they be willing to do an episode or two of a distorted future across all the shows of the Arrowverse.  Could we get a more brutal Oliver for a couple of episodes, explained away by what Barry did (somehow)?  Could fixing the timeline be a plotline on Legends?  Would this somehow be how Kara gets integrated into the Arrowverse?

It's a bold move.  But I hope they've thought it through better than they've thought through other plots this year.

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Did Barry just destroy the Arrowverse as we know it?  Does whatever happen on the Arrow tomorrow night matter if it's going to, essentially, be re-written?  It's an interesting move - definitely going to set up some "Flashpoint" stuff.  But Flashpoint affected everyone - will this affect Arrow/Legends/Supergirl?

The Jay twist was cool but not all that unexpected.  It'll also be interesting if we get anymore Harrison Wells - he's definitely one of the better characters on the show.  I'm also a little surprised we didn't get any "speed" stuff out of Wally or Jessie.

He was referring to me thinking you're a good writer, in reference to me liking some Max Landis views

I mean I guess it was an Easter Egg.

My problem with it was....how did Rip exactly plan on being a Time Master?  How can he "protect" the timeline without the Oculus?  Isn't that the reason why the Time Masters stopped in the first place?  I wasn't clear if all of them died or not, but it's implied that they either all died or just quit because the Oculus was destroyed.

But that makes sense - without the Oculus, they can't detect changes in time, right?  Something would change and they'd have no idea.  I know Star Trek's Temporal Division does something similar (and based on the ending, they might not even be doing that), but I just had no idea how they were going to do that.

What's crazy to me is that Star Trek fans have to be pretty close to the top of fans who will ALMOST CERTAINLY pirate the show.

That's a cool idea.  I don't know if they still do it, but I liked how Marvel used to (maybe still does) personalize their opening logo in the movies for whoever the movie was for (so you'd see Spider-Man comics flipping before Spider-Man movies).  This could be something similar.

I don't like that logo at all.  It seems like a huge step back.  I actually liked the one they had.

Yeah I never really worry about any of these plots any more.  I know that Agents is never going to have an impact on the bigger Marvel universe, so I'm okay with that.  I'd obviously prefer if it mattered (and, honestly, last season it did - they were able to work in an Agents of Shield plotline into Age of Ultron, even if that wasn't really stated in the movie). 

What's sad about the whole "the Russo Brothers were told they didn't have to watch AoS" is that the Inhumans actually could've made Civil War a bigger scaled movie.  Civil War was so epic in the comics because it affected everyone.  In the movie, it seemingly only affects a dozen people.  Agents of Shield retroactively makes it affect the Inhumans and the secret SHIELD, but a line about registering all the new Inhumans could've made the whole thing feel more epic.

If I were them, next season would be a smaller scale.  Now that Ward is out of the picture for good (hopefully), I'd like to see no more Hydra stuff.  Not necessarily season one - like missions of the week but something more intimate and less "end of the world."  Especially since a) they aren't going to have to work around any big Marvel movies (I doubt they'll have a crossover with Dr. Strange or Guardians 2).

Laurel was still wearing something around her neck.  I figured that was the device.  I already deleted the episode so I can't go back and look.

But if she was a metahuman, wouldn't "canary cry" as her metahuman power be crazy coincidental?  I mean, that's only her "power" on Earth-1 do to a series of events that are seemingly random (Sara being called "Yellow Bird" due to her blonde hair in the League).  Maybe Laurel was on the Queen's Gambit, ended up with the League, got the same nickname, and came back with the canary cry device.  Then ended up in Central City, got hit with the dark matter, and the device merged with her body?  It's possible.

Well I'm with you on the death thing.  It's stupid for Oliver on Arrow or Batman or Superman to have a definitive "no killing" rule because a) there's always the potential for collateral damage and b) some men just want to watch the world burn. 

What I think every superhero's rule should be "save as many lives as possible."  And that seemed to be Clark's goal in Man of Steel.  As Max Landis famously said, in the MoS scenario, Clark would realistically try and kill Zod as quickly as possible if the alternative is thousands of dead innocents.  So if killing Zod saves one person  three people / a million people, then it's worth it.

The problem is that Batman in BvS isn't killing to save - he's killing to kill - both when he's marking criminals to be killed in jail and when he's blowing up cars full of mercenaries with the Batmobile.  In that chase, Batman kills a bunch of people when he really doesn't have to.  And I think that's what most people have the problem with.

Because if Batman can just kill a random person who wasn't endangering anyone, then he shouldn't have a problem killing the Joker or Two-Face or the Riddler or anyone in the next movie.  His first play should be to kill them as quickly as possible.  Which makes for a pretty bad Batman movie.

Well, the reason why I blame Snyder over anyone else is that I was swayed by the article ireactions (I think) posted about the script-to-film changes.  I'm not certain why I'm so trusting of that author, but so many things in my mind clicked that I think that's what happened.  The script that Goyer/Terrio wrote sounds like (I haven't read it but I've read a few script reviews) a Superman movie where Batman is the villain.  That Superman has to redeem himself by saving Batman, who's completely lost his way. 

And it's driven by a couple of mistakes by Superman (in the desert with the terrorists, in the Capitol).  But I think that movie would've had a very human Superman with a Batman who is clearly unhinged.  And a lot of my problems with that are fixed.  If Clark is warmer when he's rescuing people, then I can understand why everyone would've bought in.  There's some cool parallels between Batman and Lex.  And the Alfred role is tragic because he sees Bruce going down this dark path and can't save him.  And it'd honestly be a cool take on Batman to make him the freakin' bad guy in a movie.

But I believe Snyder took the script and twisted it because he wanted a Batman movie.  So Batman can't be completely unhinged.  Superman can't be a shining light.  They can't do a direct parallel between Lex and Bruce because Lex is a psychopath and Bruce is a hero.  And so much of that can be done with direction alone.  Henry Cavill was way better in Man of Steel so we know he can be warm as Clark, but I think Snyder told him to act that way. 

Then there's stuff that I'm speculating on.  I think Snyder was basically making fun of dissenters by all the references to "no civilians in the area", "the island is abandoned" etc.  And I have a feeling it was his decision that the government hearing be about some random foreign incident and not the Battle of Metropolis.  Both of those echo comments where Snyder thought it was stupid that people were freaking out about all the death.  So he's basically making fun by commenting that no one died in the movie, and confirming in-movie that no one was really all that upset about what happened in Metropolis.

The good news is that if I throw all this on Snyder and Snyder is getting reigned in, then I'm free to be less hard on Justice League

One more thing....and it's something I truly don't understand.

Hillary had this thing wrapped up in 2015.  It was locked and loaded.  She had basically every superdelagate, her former campaign chairwoman supporting her as the head of the DNC, support from minorities and women.  It was over.  She never had to attack Bernie or have any of her surrogates attack Bernie.  She could've praised Bernie and agreed with him and amended her policies, and started building bridges to Bernie's people from day one of her campaign.

Instead, she's burned tons of bridges.  She should've been the alternative from day one knowing that there was NO CHANCE that Bernie could win.  Instead, #NeverHillary is stronger than ever.

Well, in regards to all the movies looking the same....I was actually more worried about getting a Zach Snyder-like Flash than anything else.  I think Affleck and Johns are going to make Justice League great.  I'm 200% more excited about that movie than I was two weeks ago, and I'm going to go in with higher expectations than I went in for BvS (which, again, I liked more than I thought I would).

I'm prepared to give DC the benefit of the doubt and throw all the blame at Snyder's feet.  I've liked his movies less and less the more power he's gotten - so if we can get back to Dawn of the Dead Snyder, I'll be happy