The King is Back script goes for $402.11 on Ebay!

I've known people to pay more than that! Just shocked that the interest still remains, when I can't get people on this board (a Sliders community) to respond to a script trade!

I imagine the buyer was more interested in the attached production documents (or maybe just a big Del Rubio sisters fan).  My main interest would be in documentation of filming locations; but I got out of that whole game a long time ago.

I can understand the joy and thrill that someone might feel if they were to hold a shooting script that Cleavant Derricks himself held on the Vancouver set. I can appreciate the thrill that someone could feel to hold a Motorola timer. And I suspect that Temporal Flux may experience similar things, but that his pursuit of SLIDERS artifacts and treasures may have had more to do with connecting to the people who acquired these items in the course of their work on the show and could offer not only more items but insight, experience, anecdotes and other information.

I personally don't relate to that, but I respect it. In university, I tracked down first American printings of the HARRY POTTER series, held the handcovers and their beautiful jackets in my hand -- and it meant nothing. I didn't care about the exterior or the weight. I liked the stories. So I donated my mint copies to a children's library and stepped back from collecting anything. As a STAR TREK fan, my happiest possession is not an artifact of any kind -- it's a paperback of THE RETURN, a novel by William Shatner in which the deceased Captain Kirk is resurrected for a 10 novel series of adventures.

Anyway. I am happy that JWSlider3 made $400 and I am glad that someone out there acquired something that they must have really wanted very much indeed and I am pleased that the passenger side of my car has had all the rust removed and been repainted to protect the structural integrity of my vehicle for years to come.

I'm sorry. I was confused. I thought you were selling it as I thought you'd previously communicated that you had scripts.

I don't know that the work was pressing, but it was a matter of either paying some money to repair the car between now to 12 months from now or buying a new car entirely in 2 - 3 years' time. (Urgent, important information!)

I'd rather pay $400 for a blu-ray remastering of all 5 seasons, assuming the 35mm negs are still available. The show was likely edited on videotape, which means every episode would need a new wormhole, if nothing else.

(But I'll admit, the actual scripts are a nice piece of kit from the actual productions. Better to be in a collection than in a landfill.)

That's the thing, we don't! But, evidently we have 2!

It reminded me of the old TemporalFlux Sliders passion. It was nice to see someone still has it!

Thanks to your suggestion (through personal email) 2 years ago. Odd you would ask being that you've seen the document that I had that confirms that "Net Worth" was in season 3 lineup, that Transmodiar showed you.

I never actually saw the document. Transmodiar was merely kind enough to mention the “Net Worth” factoid while discussing my latest mental health crisis. Haha!

For those who aren’t aware: TF was of the view that “Net Worth” had originally been a Season 3 pitch entitled “Onliners” and featured Quinn and Wade doubles in the roles of Rick and Joanne and was shelved after John was fired. Writer Steve Stoliar, however, said he had no memory of “Net Worth” being anything other than a Season 4 episode. Producer Paul Jackson had no recollection of anything called “Onliners.” Transmodiar informed me that this was likely one of TF’s few errors, possibly a miscommunication due to a lot of story ideas being communicated verbally but not on any documents that were preserved.

But that didn’t make any sense. Tracy Torme’s notes for Season 3 indicated that he had received a story idea called “Onliners” that he liked and that the Season 3 team might reject; he was going to ask Acclaim to consider producing it. And the script for “Net Worth” has unaired dialogue for Rick where he is familiar with sliding and where Maggie claims to be familiar with Joanne despite having only known her for two scenes — dialogue that only makes sense for a Quinn double and Wade speaking to her own double. The role of Mrs. Montana is also clearly written for Linda Henning.

Transmodiar reviewed JWSlider’s documents which included a mid-season progress report on Season 3 scripts. It included “Onliners,” which had been retitled “Net Worth” and put on hold.

A few years ago, I wrote “Net Worth: The Quinn and Wade Edition,” featuring the original sliders in the story with doubles of Quinn and Wade and Hurley and Amanda Mallory replacing Rick, Joanne, Jack and Mrs. Montana.

http://freepdfhosting.com/5e12f7fac9.pdf

My niece was furious with me for removing Mark Sheppard’s Jack from the episode as she loves that actor in SUPERNATURAL but was placated when I made sure to give him a cameo in my SLIDERS REBORN. Transmodiar was dismayed by how I spent three months working out a solution to how the sliders survived a bazooka aimed at the ceiling of their hotel room and gobsmacked by my having never seen MACGYVER and horrified when I declared that Wikipedia made MACGYVER sound like the greatest show ever and had inspired me to have Quinn find a way to defeat the bazooka. Transmodiar also thought it was unrealistic for the resulting script to feature Hurley and Wade’s parents and sister and to exclude commercial breaks and said it was very obviously fan fiction. He is correct.

As far as "Net Worth" is concerned I believe TF is correct, I think Tracy himself pitched this story as "Onliners" and it was assigned to Steve Stoliar (who moved forward with his on pitch) then Nan Hagan (I got proof of this one:) then it stalled again.

This was Tracy's notes for season four not three. I believe "Net Worth" was then "reassigned"  to Steve Stoliar then it was completed.

This isn't entirely true. The document didn't include "Onliners" it included "Net Worth" but yes it was put on hold. The reason I believe Tracy assigned the pitch he made himself is that only he has ever referred to it as "Onliners" and he had taken other pitches to the comic such as "Three went Walking" and "The Power and the Glory"

He says it's his idea, but then again so does Nan. But Torme only took his ideas to Acclaim.

published?

I'm curious ireactions, why did you ask this question here and now? You've had my email and you didn't seem to care for the last 2 years. Is it because I made reference to the old TemporalFlux Sliders passion? Did you feel you needed to "put me in my place", expose something TemporalFlux might not have known about?

Let's not forget that giant box of Sci-Fi Channel-era crap I shipped to you. Unless you tossed it in the trash after you scanned it?! :-O

We were all wrong - TemporalFlux was wrong, I was wrong, and you were wrong. James has the docs that give a very specific breakdown of what "Onliners" or whatever the hell you want to call it was before it was shelved. And if I ever get the time, it'll likely make its way to Earth Prime. But just so there's no miscommunication, what was designed for season three in NO way resembles what appeared in season four, and it wasn't a simple case of changing the names in the script.

Just like "Raging Quinn" wasn't about Smarter Quinn, it was about a murderous dolphin and Arturo and Quinn beating the daylights out of each other. You live, you learn. TMYK!

Recent years haven’t been too kind, and I really no longer care what anyone is doing with regards to behind the scenes material.  Trying to share that type of material was a miserable experience for me. I often felt like I had to spend more time trying to prove I wasn’t lying than the time it took to actually find the material.

Looking back, my real enjoyment with this community was in sharing ideas and theories about the continuity and mechanics of the series that weren’t always elaborated on in the stories.  Filling in the cracks of the series and talking about it with other fans was a rewarding experience, and those efforts are the “detective work” that I’m most proud of.  Ultimately, that’s all I was trying to do in finding the production materials too - I was just seeking to gain a better understanding of the series and what shaped it. 

I’ve come to realize that trivia and possessions really weren’t my goal (though I admit I do enjoy having displays of the production used Egyptian timer, Rickman timer and Slidewave generator in my home).

Sorry to hear of miss fortune in the last few years. I can understand about not caring what anyone is doing with the material. I felt like I paid a fortune for what most would consider Bob Weiss' trash (and actually is).

I enjoy finding out about the stories that might have been, a story I enjoy is when I was trying to get in contact with Dorothy Fontana and had to go though Marv Wolfman to do it (almost surreal).

When last we talked you had just acquired the Egyptian Timer and stated that you where determined to the Rickman Timer. I think it's awesome that you got all those Timers now.

I wish you would have just said this in an email, instead of saying nothing. I know a lot of what I talked about in those days never came to pass, sorry things couldn't have been different.

As I said, Tracy is the only one that referred to it as "Onliners".

As of March 20 1997

K1811 "Net  Worth" Steve Stoliar Story assigned 7/2/96 delivered 7/10/96 - In abeyance
K1812 "Adventure in paradise" John Scheinfeld Story assigned 7/16/96 delivered 7/24/96 - Abandoned
K1821 "Slider's Ark" Paul Jackson assigned 10/22/96
K1822 "Heat of the Moment" Tracy Torme assigned 11/1/96

the outline is what was delivered not the script, if it's at the assignment stage it's just a pitch

I believe the outline was called "Sons of Liberty" formally Net Worth.

I’ll see if I can get them lit up for a shot.  It’s a bit of pain to get the batteries in the Slidewave device - you essentially have to dismantle the whole thing and put it back together.  Amazingly, the bright camera ready lights on it run off 16 AA batteries.

When I got it from the prop master, he talked about how they had built a couple of them for use in the episode (one being used for the infamous spark scene that injured Jerry).  But it was clear which one I got.  They had taken a script and cut out Jerry’s line for that scene and taped it to the back of the emitter.  lol  It led me to wonder just how many secret places they had Jerry’s lines taped up in the episodes we watch.

Well even if you can't light it up, I'd love to see them all as is.  And hmm, are you saying Jerry was a regular Shatner? Ha ha.

PS: Hopefully your surgery goes great, please keep us in the loop.

So, the K1811 "Net Worth" of Season 3 by Steve Stoliar is not the "Net Worth" (K2806) of Season 4 by Steve Stoliar?

Is "Sliders' Ark" most definitely a separate story from "The Exodus"? The title is reminiscent of John Rhys-Davies' pitch for the sliders landing on a doomed Earth and helping to evacuate who they can and debating whether to bring artwork or food supplies and similar conundrums as reported by Sarah_Slider. And "The Exodus" was ultimately scripted by Tony Blake and Paul Jackson.