You know something just dawned on me, was the "prom" blue tuxedo worn by Jerry intentionally similar to the Spinning Tops Cry Like a Man Rembrandt tuxedo?

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ireactions wrote:

TF is referring to the text of Mr. Schmidt's tweets on June 20, 2018:

Steve Schmidt wrote:

Twenty nine years and nine months ago, I registered to vote and became a member of the Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today, I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

Holy Moley!  Now that's an interesting coincidence.  Let me tell ya, that's a long ass damn time, too.  29.7 years ago I was in Junior High School, my mind completely fried between tougher schoolwork, girls, sports, video games, and well, girls.

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TemporalFlux wrote:
ireactions wrote:

Long time Republican campaigner Steve Schmidt, who is responsible for Sarah Palin, renounced the Republican party after Trump and pinned a lengthy repudiation on his Twitter account at https://twitter.com/steveschmidtses -- and showed that it's okay to admit when we've made a mistake.

Just an aside regarding Schmidt’s tweet, but it’s rare to see someone mention that it’s been almost exactly 29.7 years since they did something.  He missed the slide all those years ago and has been stuck on that world waiting.

Wait wuhhhhhhhhhh?

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The GOP has been in bed with lobbyists for decades.  The days of leadership from Reagan or Bush Sr. or Dole, people like that, are long gone.  They have pushed sensible people out, replacing a lobby-friendly Tom Dashell (Dem) with a (Rep) who's 10x worse John Thune, for example.  Others like Alan Simpson have left.  They have had this echo chamber in Fox News where they are never challenged.  Gone are the days when McConnell might have had to explain himself on a regular network or the old CNN.  Now they simply talk to their base only.  This was all before the tea party, which ushered in plenty of buffoons with no interest in governing.  And so, the GOP itself became this joke, full of opportunistic windbags who wilt at the first sign of scrutiny, and betrothed to special interests.  When they leave Washington, like classic foil Tom Delay, they get rich in lobbying.  What you have is a cadre of immoral spineless shrimp, and so the antics of Trump really mean little to them.  They have no values themselves to begin with, so why would his bother them?

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The past week is something I hoped to never see in my lifetime.  It's not even something that a show like Sliders took risks with early on.  This is complete madness.  People of all races protesting, others looting, and the rest vandalizing.  To see street fighting between protestors and cops, protestors and loser (mainly white) kids, white kids and cops, just stunning.  Then to have it capped off tonight with the President ordering a tear gassing and rubber bullet shootup of a peaceful protest so he can take a photo op with a book he's never read in front of a Church.

TemporalFlux wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:
TemporalFlux wrote:

I’ve come to realize that trivia and possessions really weren’t my goal (though I admit I do enjoy having displays of the production used Egyptian timer, Rickman timer and Slidewave generator in my home).

WHAT?!  Can we see??????  PLEASE!

I’ll see if I can get them lit up for a shot.  It’s a bit of pain to get the batteries in the Slidewave device - you essentially have to dismantle the whole thing and put it back together.  Amazingly, the bright camera ready lights on it run off 16 AA batteries.

When I got it from the prop master, he talked about how they had built a couple of them for use in the episode (one being used for the infamous spark scene that injured Jerry).  But it was clear which one I got.  They had taken a script and cut out Jerry’s line for that scene and taped it to the back of the emitter.  lol  It led me to wonder just how many secret places they had Jerry’s lines taped up in the episodes we watch.

Well even if you can't light it up, I'd love to see them all as is.  And hmm, are you saying Jerry was a regular Shatner? Ha ha.

PS: Hopefully your surgery goes great, please keep us in the loop.

TemporalFlux wrote:

I’ve come to realize that trivia and possessions really weren’t my goal (though I admit I do enjoy having displays of the production used Egyptian timer, Rickman timer and Slidewave generator in my home).

WHAT?!  Can we see??????  PLEASE!

a. MacGyver WAS the greatest show ever!!!!!!!!

b. I either never knew about Onliners or it has completely been whisked away from my memory.  I'm intrigued at the concept, especially that along with Heat of the Moment would have made a far better show than the post-Arturo garbage we got in S3.  I really would have loved to see a cranky Linda Henning!

Well yes, I would agree the Pukingpah stamp on the season is unmistakable.  I'm just trying to put that aside, as well as the fact that Torme could have had the reins again.  I guess what I really meant to say was that when the season first came out, I was in college, not even 20 years old yet.  My sensibilities were quite different, and I was annoyed with much of it, particularly the infamous rerun hell in which I would miss episodes over and over.  I'm now over 40, and so part of my reason for rewatching Sliders again was to judge how I view the show now.  I'm not saying that S4 has "grown" on me, for given the budget, and the general lack of care from the network, I'm just saying that it wasn't as bad as I last viewed it.  S5 I guess I'll have to suffer through next.

The Comet TV Sliders schedule just finished it's season 4 portion last week.  I've been rewatching, mainly via DVD's, although the transfer/upscale on those were awful compared to the Fox season DVD's.  But I digress.  Back at the time, after Fox canceled the show, Sci-Fi infamously picked it back up.  Clearly the budget was scaled down to next to nothing, resulting in frequent Chandler stays.  All in all, I've felt for years that the season featured quite a bit of good science fiction, even if it was often a bit "main stream" at that point.  Bill Dial, Chris Black, Marc Scott Zicree, and co. made sure of that.  The guest acting was largely okay as well, particularly the Kolitar guy, Thomas Mallory, and a number of others.  Charlie O'Connell was fairly unbearable, but what can you do?  He was cheap.  Anyway, my point is that I feel like it holds up well.

Welcome!

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That's actually not a bad way of spinning that hilarious Bill Gates conspiracy.  Frankly the more you explained it, the more crazy it sounded.  Would definitely fit right in on Sliders.  As for similarities, trust me, nobody remembers plots from Season 5!

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Serial killer of Quinn's only-Quinn Mallory, ha ha ha!  Flash mob world would undoubtedly feature President Jimmy Fallon! 

Such off the wall ideas TF, but fun nonetheless.  You know it's funny, in some ways it's like how I used to view the world bound by "Catholic guilt" I'm now viewing your ideas bound by Fox-itis!  I read something, and think, well the network wouldn't allow this, or nope that will cost too much money.  Hee heee. 

There are very elaborate concepts that might not be possible in a single episode.  I wonder if they'd make more sense to be fleshed out a little more in like 2 or 3 episode arcs?  Slower paced.  One thing you saw with Sliders was that they went through various incarnations.  S1-2 it was all about adapting to the world, S3 was all about fighting and fleeing and action, S4 was way over reliant on character interaction and introspective.  S5 was kind of a mixture of all of it.  I'm not sure which was the best choice, probably the S1-2 approach but with more character work.  To do that, I'd think you will have to slow the pace down.

Well they can use the same actors and sets, so it's cheaper, to be in the same time period.  I think Picard might open the door for "future" endeavors in the 24th century but I also don't think it's that necessary.

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Interesting, the "Nancy Grace" angle.  Trying to think back to the late 90's, there weren't too many media formats that would have covered this other than Howard Stern or National Enquirer or something like that.  Also, was Sliding declassified to the public?  That seems unlikely given that most conspiracy theorists allege pretty much nothing is by the federal government. 

You know what's ironic is, when I scan through television (network and streaming), Sliders would STILL have no place!  Science Fiction tinged in sarcasm and humor?  Everything is either kid/teen overload like Stranger Things or Locke and Key, or extremely dark.  I suppose Supernatural is an exception.  I would hate to see this script concept or any other given the teen treatment.  While I look forward to the new Ghostbusters, which does that, it's not right for Sliders.

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Finally got to reading the TF script, and I LOVED it!  While I'm not totally sure if the characters themselves are the right choices to have throughout a full season, the dark humor, improvisation to danger, and TV science goofiness (finding a chip in a door lock) was all quintessential Torme Sliders.  I think the premise, in that people on EP used Sliding with disastrous effects, is a great one.  Truly a novel way to connect back to, and potentially "run into" the original group again.  While I realize he provides a large part of the plot in this script, the only thing I'd change would be including Bennish long term on this ride.  Maybe this is blasphemous, but I never liked the character outside of being a rotten turd on the few worlds they visited.  I think he was established as villainous though I suppose he could be a "Dr. Smith" type of companion.  All in all, this was really a clever take on "rebooting the show" mainly because it's "small."  I fear that if Hollywood were to attempt it, they would immediately be busting their budget, which was never Torme's vision for this series.  In fact, your approach would succeed on a streaming service like Peacock because it wouldn't require insane budgets.

I watched it.  One person got in a Sliders mention, but she mostly spoke about her parenting, moving around and around, and such.  It was just nice to see/hear from her after so long.  Enjoying art with her daughter.  Apparently her husband has been going back and forth to Kenya, but is now stuck there for 5 months so far.  Whole family is supposed to move there in a few months but not sure.  Also spoke about getting her degree (after 10 years) just recently via Univ. of London.

Sabrina just did a livestream with her friend Jen Pastiloff today, here's the video!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAGMNTkHIiM … 1yYQPOlaWY

https://instagram.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.2885-15/e35/96405867_292776228394768_5896994571825128083_n.jpg?_nc_ht=instagram.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net&_nc_cat=104&_nc_ohc=I6WkTX-0NZ0AX-60Kji&oh=21a335b2dd17a4a3c45d59386e8f6e36&oe=5EE57161

Honestly, I cannot watch a series that doesn't have continuity anymore, I feel as though I'm just wasting my time.  Been that way for many, many years.

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Ironically a military member who is at the White House tested positive, not sure how much time Trump spends with him.  My father greeted the news by saying that Trump probably already has a vaccine himself, ha ha ha.

I would tune in if channel solely to catch a glimpse or too of Stana Katic, otherwise gahhhhhh, what trash!

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Well there's no question Trump will downplay this pandemic right through November.  The death toll will always be far better than expected because he "closed the border."  That's B.S., but that's his plan.  What he cannot lie about are economic numbers, which I think he's going to have a far tougher time "spinning."  As I've said, as long as the highest rates of infection and death continue to be with nursing homes, prisons, immigrant plant workers, and African-Americans, he will be happy.  Those are not his voters.  Now, he's an utter moron, and fails to comprehend that when those people are infected around the country, that his blue collar white voters will also be infected.  The virus is not racist.  Nor that those in rural areas have far worse access to healthcare and will pay dearly for that. 

Trump has made a political career out of smashing norms and taking risks.  Granted, the risks are calculated.  He has threatened Iran, who we all know are not going to get into a shooting war with the United States.  He fosters hatred and division, with little pushes here and there, because he knows what he can get away with.  He knew impeachment wouldn't stop him, because Mitch McConnell is a whore.  This virus doesn't answer to him or anybody else.  It's a completely random variable, and taking risks with it is absolutely insane.  Yet here we are.  Trump is gambling that the infections will subside with the warm weather, and stay away until at least after the election.  Either that and/or there will be working vaccines which he can boast about.  Again, this might work out, but it might also EFFFF all of us badly in the end.  Trump doesn't care, because it's about him winning, nothing else.

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The problem is scale, what Kushner has done just isn't big enough.  Biden for instance keeps saying Manhattan Project, which most people were not alive to witness.  That was a full-scale wartime effort, which this Kushner program is not.  There's really no reason it shouldn't have been either, as we're pissing away billions a day in economic losses.

BTW, another Tara Reade tidbit, as I myself continue to have a tough time untwisted what she has said in the past.  Apparently when she "chickened out" of something, it was a Senate Counseling program, idk, just way too confusing.

The Associated Press asked Reade about the complaint after uncovering notes from an interview last year in which she said she “chickened out” of filing a report. “They have this counseling office or something, and I think I walked in there once, but then I chickened out,” she said, according to a transcript of the interview last year. At the time, Reade had accused Biden of touching her inappropriately but did not detail the sexual assault allegations until this year. Reade says that her “chickened out” comment referred to the way she did not fully detail the assault allegations in the report.

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Well the "Murray" model was totally re-adjusted, after seeing cell phone data of people being more mobile, since many states have relaxed.  However, the major hotspots are currently nursing homes, prisons, and meat processing plants.  There was no testing and little protection at these places, and we're just now seeing huge spreads in Iowa, Texas, NM, Nebraska, etc., etc.  They don't even know it's happening because they don't test.  One plant had 400 positive, no symptoms, showing how widespread it is.  We have placed zero public concern for conditions at those types of places before this pandemic, and now it's blown up in our faces.  Testing, contact tracing, and cleaning up those plants, nursing homes, and prisons is not happening.  New York and California are ahead the most on those, and they aren't ready.

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I think it's bizarre she doesn't have a laywer.  While Reade's initial story might be genuine, her motivation at this point is simply dishonest.  She keeps saying she wants nothing from Joe Biden; however, it's quite obvious, she wants him to quit.  She had numerous opportunities to fade away, yet she's only ramped up both the seriousness of her details and complaints about the lack of media coverage since Biden's string of primary victories.  On this she is 100% full of shit, complaining that her story became "partisan."  No DUH it did, you're dreaming about Putin, then tweeting support of Bernie Sanders, and when Biden pulls ahead, oh hey excuse me, by the way, he assaulted me!!!  Then you're shocked people dismiss you as wishing political revenge, or perhaps an agent of Russia?  Come on.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-say … -a-success

With a pandemic ongoing, and a President who this weekend admitted that 35,000 more people will die in the next month due to his push to reopen the economy, and we have to deal with Reade?  Again, I know what that sounds like, but quite frankly, one woman's "uncomfortableness" from 3 decades ago should not outweigh tens of thousands (and who knows how many more) deaths compounded by an idiot in charge.  It's too late to change nominees, granted they haven't nominated anyone to this point, but you know what I mean.  The fallout from that will be horrendous, the Democratic ticket will be a clown show, while Trump never plays by these rules.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXCIEIGWAAAEV0K?format=jpg&name=small

https://apnews.com/aec7beb03e9e0e0e6e3c58111293e0ea

This is just too head spinning to follow anymore.  So last year, Reade said she chickened out, and didn't follow through with the US Senate.  Her issue was inappropriateness, and being retaliated against.  She's also said she reported it to several in Biden's office, and now she didn't.  Reade also said that AP story is false, on her Twitter, but SHE SAID IT!!!

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … allegation

This apparently I missed weeks ago, but Reade said that all she did was jot down the complaint on a CLIPBOARD.  There's no record of this anywhere, certainly not at the University of Delaware.

After the alleged assault, Reade said she filed a complaint on a clipboard in a Senate personnel office — she could not remember the name — about the alleged harassment, not the assault. She never heard back about it. No record of the report has been located.

The office that fielded harassment complaints at that time was called the Senate Office of Fair Employment Practices. It was replaced in 1995 with the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights. In 1993, the law said that harassment allegations would be heard by an independent board.

Reade suspects that Biden’s Senate office might have gotten alerted to a complaint and that it might be in Biden’s official Senate paper archive at the University of Delaware. Those records are sealed from the public “for two years after Biden retires from public life.”

Again, I do not feel that Ms. Reade's intent is malevolent here, but I just don't know what she WANTS out of this?  Biden is not going to budge, and all she has is her story, that she's told for many years.  With zero backup from anyone in the Biden office or the U.S. Senate, whether it happened or not, how can Joe Biden be found "guilty?"  She canceled the interview "over death threats."  Like plight said, something probably went on, and Tara complained and was retaliated against.  It's very difficult to try to make these accusations against a powerful person, and really, you have to have a concrete case.

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I watched Morning Mika grilling Biden as best as she could, because frankly, there's not a ton she could have asked which he didn't answer.  The University of Delaware records thing is a joke.  Do we expect a university that is currently CLOSED to send staff in just to sift through his records?  It's not a police investigation.  Ms. Reade kept employment records, according to her own statements, which most of us never would bother with.  Yet she did not keep a copy of the COMPLAINT she filed??  Give me a break.  The reason Trump didn't hit Joe on this was because Trump knows this stuff all too well, and likely doesn't believe the claim, and is not going to be dumb enough to pile on when there's a good chance he'll be made the fool.  Yes, I know, this is Trump, but he's not an idiot on these matters.  Biden's best answer was that Delaware would not have personnel records, which is true.  Any employer has to safeguard those, and turning them over to the public would be highly unethical.  As I've said, I do not expect the National Archives to find the complaint, because it didn't exist.  None of this will satisfy the rapid left though, they hate Biden seemingly more than Trump, which makes them completely illogical.

SQ21, I do not believe Reade is politically motivated at all.  She probably intends to vote for Biden anyway, ha ha.  Some people just want to be super victim.  When questioned about her changing story, Reade claims her therapist was told the full story all along, but she will not release her therapist's notes.  Yet demands Biden release everything he's got.  Lastly, she cannot remember a single vivid detail about the incident's date, time, or location.  Victims of assault will remember where it happened, she cannot, just saying it was in a hallway somewhere in the Capitol.  Obviously she'll be interviewed by Fox News on Sunday, but I cannot see how this continues to be reported on?  Either there's a smoking gun or there isn't.

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So the conclusion, or in reality, opinion, that Cathy Young was left with in that article I posted was similar to mine.  In the case of Dr. Christine Ford, it's likely that she was briefly jumped on by a wasted Brett Kavanaugh, but that was the limit of it, and his 4 decade life since has been exemplary, politics aside.  He was likely so hammered he has no memory of the night in question.  Once her primary witness refused to back her in public, that should have been the end of it.  They never should have brought her into testify.  In the case of Ms. Reade, who sadly had to survive domestic abuse, Young's view was that the assault, largely in the open, did not happen.  She felt that since Biden had no pattern of this kind of behavior at the time, in addition to high scrutiny for sexual harassment going around Congress, it simply wasn't likely.  In addition, Reade's own words, her mother's call, etc, seemed to show anger with the Biden staff and not the Senator.  It's possible she created this memory in her mind, as a result of the actual abuse she received, but I'm not a psychiatrist.

I would use the Corey Feldman example of how these things can happen.  Scott Schwartz, fellow child actor from The Toy and A Christmas Story, recently did an interview where he tears into Feldman.  He says these child pedo parties never occurred the way Corey claims, and that Charlie Sheen never molested Corey Haim.  In fact, the one who did was a low-life who Feldman kept in his company for decades despite KNOWING what this guy did to Haim.  Similar to how Feldman defends Michael Jackson.  Anyway, Schwartz went on to say that Sheen stole a porn star away from Feldman, which made him forever irate with him.  At some point, the same low-life who molested Haim sold a story to the tabloids about Sheen, with Feldman backing him up.  It's all a lie, and Haim was dead and couldn't refute it though his family did so.  Schwartz said Corey LOVES playing the victim.

What does that have to do with this?  Only that people make exaggerated and false accusations about famous people all the time.  It gains them fame themselves and definitely attention.  Particularly if it's an event that is so long ago, it's literally impossible to find out the truth.  Supposedly the Biden campaign is rifling through his old Senate documents as we speak, with the far left accusing them of covering up whatever they find.  My guess is they won't find anything, just like the other agencies Reade supposedly reported it to found nothing.  MSNBC covered this last night, which caused many liberals to react angrily against MSNBC!  I say no, just wait, let them all cover it now, and get it over with, because IMO there's no story there.

I would expect VP Biden tomorrow morning to express sympathy for whatever pain Ms. Reade is going through, and who knows, he might even invite her to speak to him.  He might apologize for having potentially said something crass to her back then or the like.  In no way is he going to shockingly admit to it.  I myself am still trying to understand Reade's end game here?  I mean, what does she want from Biden?  An apology?  His dropping out?  Neither of those are going to happen.  Clearly she pissed that horse rescue lady off, and her reaction to her on Twitter was pretty bad.  I go back to the Feldman story, I just think Tara Reade has cultivated this thing where she plays the victim.  She did it to the horse woman, and is doing it again.

PS: Young's last comment was that "Believe the Woman" is simply not reasonable nor sustainable, and throws due process out the window.

PS PS: Donald Trump, of all people, said Biden should respond, and that "I know all about false accusations, it could be false."

TemporalFlux wrote:

Peacock is planning a new Battlestar Galactica for their service, and that’s likely not cheap.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/ba … ease-date/

Well there went the new series budget! Honestly enough with that dumb show!

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

When I sat down to write a spinoff/sequel series to Earth 214 (which I never got passed a half-written pilot and a plan for season 1), one of the ideas I liked was the idea of putting "satellites" in the wormhole to communicate from world to world (with the idea being that wormholes are a river connecting two worlds but that there's a bigger "ocean" that connects them all).

Might be a dumb idea, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work in the continuity of Sliders to allow them to communicate with each other no matter where they are.

Certainly worked for the Kromaggs!

ireactions wrote:

Well, in 2000 over AOL Instant Messenger, I asked Torme: how would he resolve the cliffhanger of "The Seer"? Torme said that he hadn't seen it and would prefer not knowing anything about it because he was sure it would only make him depressed and angry. But that if he had to follow up on it, he would use a story he'd come up with before he quit the show with Season 3. His idea was a Kromagg story that would be "surreal and trippy" where Quinn would wake up to find himself home with time rewound back to the Pilot and only Quinn remembering sliding.

He would encounter doubles of characters he'd met during Seasons 1 - 2 and Logan from Season 3 at which point he'd realize that sliding was real. The situation would be revealed as a Kromagg trick, and Torme said that to address "The Seer" without having to watch it, he'd declare that any episode after "The Guardian" to be part of the Kromagg scenario. Torme explained that "The Guardian" was his favourite episode of the series and the last one he was happy with, calling "Double Cross" and "Dead Man Sliding" out as "very mediocre."

So, that's how he'd answer your poll, but when writing his Post-It of a story idea into a script, I elected to make the cutoff point the Season 2 finale. That way, while the "Slide Effects" script ends with the sliders still lost in the multiverse, the Kromagg tracking device has been destroyed and Logan isn't pursuing them and the Professor isn't dying of a terminal illness. Also, as far as Torme was concerned, "Invasion" happened before "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome" and Arturo had the Kromagg tracking device but was stranded on the Azure Gate Bridge world -- which isn't reflected in the actual airdates as "Invasion" aired after PTTS. My "Slide Effects" script uses the original broadcast order and says that Quinn had the implant, another divergence from Torme's intentions.

I feel like Quinn in that story, somehow I've forgotten all of this!  Leave it to Tracy though to have devised such an esoteric concept.  There's definitely a bit of Fire in the Sky in that story though.  That may have worked 20 years ago when he proposed it, but the actors are far too old now for that.

ireactions wrote:

Later, Torme proposed but did not complete a screenplay for EP.COM. He sent an outline called "The Long Slide Home" which opens with Quinn and the Professor removing Logan St. Clair's whispering gallery system from the geographic spectrum stabilizer and restoring Quinn's original laser gyro system to put their slides back in the San Francisco area, so even in his fanfic, he wanted to integrate "Double Cross" into his selective continuity.

Torme also stated, interestingly, that he intended to gift his script to both Transmodiar AND Temporal Flux and they could feature it on their respective sites as they saw fit. Unfortunately, due to professional obligations, he never finished it.

Also, Torme came up with his Kromagg story that revisits the Pilot before he gave up on Season 3, before John was fired and before Seasons 4 - 5. However, when asked how he would fix his show, his "Invasion" sequel was the story he put forward to roll back the continuity of the series. And when he was asked to where he'd roll it back, he picked "The Guardian."

Now this I sort of remember, and likewise would have been very cool to read.  Similarly, it's probably been too long to use as well.  I'm sure that Jerry probably has never read either concept....

ireactions wrote:

But in terms of the rollback -- Torme told me in 2000 that he wanted to roll the show back to "The Guardian" with his "Slide Effects" script. But when writing it in 2011, I picked "As Time Goes By" because I feel that once SLIDERS left Vancouver, it lost its visual identity. It lost the indie-film look of the show. It lost the washed out, grounded, gray tone of Vancouver as San Francisco. It lost the fiction of being set in San Francisco.

Interesting, didn't know/remember Tracy making that statement.  I'm sure he's including The Guardian because he wrote it, but I'd be fine with that.  As I said, you retain all of his original mysteries by around that point. 

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Oh I completely agree.  My point is that a project like this needs a champion.  Someone has to go into a meeting with Universal and whoever and sell this thing until people give it lots of money.  Something like Ryan Reynolds did with Deadpool or tons of projects that are crowdfunded.  Someone needs to lead those meetings, and so far, no one else is doing that.  And I think if Jerry is going to spend his time championing a Sliders reboot, he's doing it to star in it.  If he's not, I'm assuming he wouldn't champion the project and he'd get whatever Michael Mallory-equivalent role on whatever pilot he can get on Paramount network.

You're right, though, because maybe he champions it and ends up screwed out of it.  Richard Hatch famously spent a ton of time and effort looking to get Battlestar Galactica revived.  He wrote novels and produced trailers to try and sell the project.  And it did generate interest in new Galactica - but not his version.  He ended up settling for a recurring role.

So if that's what happened to Jerry, so be it.

Depends on what medium they're going for.  Peacock service needs content, though one would assume the budget wouldn't be great on there, though Sliders proved over and over again that wasn't a showstopper.  I'm not really sure what Jerry's concept is to say that he might get pushed out.  Terrible example, but look at Saved By the Bell, Mario and Elizabeth are producers and starring, with an all-new teen cast.  Sliders could do the same, especially given that besides Jerry, the other three original stars are somewhat "retired."

Geez, a complete reboot was not one of the choices!!  Ha ha, I posted this poll because I've been rewatching on Comet TV.  At first, I figured everything after Vancouver ought to go.  However, Season 3, granted full of movie rip-offs, was not that bad, prior to The Exodus.  There were good stories, and as I watch now, for the first time in at least a decade, I can better appreciate dialogue, directing, things like that.  The characters remained true to their cores.  The Rickman episodes after The Exodus were utter garbage, with The Other Slide of Darkness being one of the worst.  The Smarter Quinn giving Kromaggs Sliding tech was so unbelievable stupid, I never got over that.  Season 4 and 5 had a lot of good science fiction scripts, but Wade raped, Earthprime conquered, and Quinn being adopted, no, no no!!!  So my pick was The Exodus, which for many fans, was the jump the shark moment.  I can't tell you how many times I read or get told that someone stopped watching after JRD left the show.

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TF, I'm not sure about your "theory" on the escape clause, ha ha, because Ohio finally had their primary, and it was mail in only.  NJ has mailed ballots out without asking, for instance.  I truly don't understand the NY decision, and don't agree with it, especially since it was going to be mail in only.  Very bizarre.  If more states canceled theirs, there would be an uproar.

https://arcdigital.media/a-tale-of-two- … 4504d6228a

ireactions, here's a LONG, and I mean LONG winded article I suggest reading.  It's an opinion piece for sure, but this writer attempts to figure out who has the more plausible assault claim, Reade or Christine Ford.  I was able to get through the whole thing, and ironically, her conclusions are basically in line with my feelings on both women's accusations.

As for "Sleepy Joe," the problem is that when Biden tries to speak on issues he's just not that great with, he fumbles.  It's not dementia, it's called trying to do an oral presentation on a book you were too lazy to read!  He's not Bernie or Warren, they are policy wonks.  But he's also not going to advise people to stick a UV light up their ass either.

Well that was the auction.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sliders-Origin … 3907351346

We've likely gone through this before, but I've come up with 5 critical points in the history of the series from which you might declare, everything after this is just plain trash and won't count.  The assumption being that a project, such as the one Jerry O'Connell and John Rhys-Davies have spoken about, could not possibly be written as a continuation of The Seer, or can it?  For me at least, the primary pieces of continuity over the years, for fans, deals mainly with the cast changes.  Arturo is killed off, but was it the Wrong one?  Wade is captured by Kromaggs, sent to a breeding camp (disgusting), then put in a jar.  Quinn is merged with "Mallory" and never heard from again.  But even he gets this nonsensical backstory of being an foster child from another dimension.  That story creates Colin Mallory, who eventually gets turned into atoms.  Along the way, we pick up Maggie, Mallory, and Diana Davis, do you wish to keep them around?  Last but not least, there are story lines that either went unresolved, such as Logan St. Clare, or were distorting horribly by later writers, such as "smarter Quinn" giving sliding to Kromaggs or the Kromaggs themselves becoming a race of lame Nazi's from the Planet of the Apes.  So I found the moments in time where you could "return to," in a sense, or maybe you scrap it all and write a new series that reintroduces Quinn, Arturo, Rembrandt, etc.

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ireactions wrote:

Tara Reade's former neighbour and a co-worker have come forward and said that Reade told them her story of Biden assaulting her in the 90s:

https://www.businessinsider.com/former- … 020-4?op=1

Hmmm. I think I'll go back to the starting point of #BelieveWomen and then go from from there. I'll be back.

Well the neighbor is still voting for Biden, so go figure.  Idk what else to say, Biden is never going to admit anything.

TemporalFlux wrote:

I had wondered what label they would give an economic downturn following the Coronavirus shut down.  I bet this one will stick - “The Great Repression” (since we technically did it on purpose):

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-g … 2020-04-27

It's already BAD.  They mention inflation, well have they been in a supermarket?  The prices are obscene!

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https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/b … 76cac68a2b

So, after a nasty back and forth on Twitter between Tara Reade (now McCable), writer Joan Walsh, and Lynn Hummer, the founder of a California horse rescue, The Medium dug into it.  Mrs. Hummer has extensive evidence to back up her claims that "Tara Reade stole from me. She lied to me. She stole from my organization. She manipulated me and she duped me. I want that to be shared because it’s important information. And I have documentation, images and emails to prove it."

The accusation here is that Tara was deceitful in actions pertaining to his horse rescue.  Her reaction was almost Trump-like, threatening to sue Hummer as well as Joan Walsh.  I hate to just dismiss someone based on what they have done recently, but the reality is she never spoke ill about Joe Biden for 2.5 decades.  Quite the opposite, she bragged about working for him.  All we have is her accusation, what vague details her brother and another friend remember, and the mother supposedly phoning into Larry King.  Reade claimed to have reported the harassment to 4 different agencies at the time, but none of them have a record of it.  No one in Biden's office backs her story up. 

Again, is it not possible that she was fired, became angry about that, and told her mother a story to cover for being canned?  Perhaps not, but even the mother's questioning on CNN was strange.  She cited it as a "problem," but did not seem to come close to intimating an assault occurred that might require police involvement.  The mother asks Larry, "My daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator, and could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him."  That makes no sense.  You're only recourse is the press?  But you have respect for him, AFTER he allegedly assaults you? 

It brings me back to the Kavanaugh/Ford allegations.  That was even longer back in time, and while it's probable that Kavanaugh went a bit too far while drunk, Dr. Ford simply couldn't recall details, and even the "assault" itself really only came to light for her through hypnosis, which is about as scientific as having your palm read.  At the same time, these incidents are traumatizing, and the victims often do not want to bring them to light, simply because they often wish to forget them.  Perahps Ms. Reade has a Stockholm Syndrome at work, but I mean, she only worked for Biden for a few months, yet as I said, continued to praise him, and even now doesn't seem to particularly wish to vilify him.  It's just very strange, but like Dr. Ford, the special interests get their claws in, and it's simply 2,000 times worse for the alleged victim.

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Well even with the mother's call, I'm not sure if that changes much.  Biden denies it, Reade doesn't, it's a stalemate.  Trump has 25 women accusing him of harassment.  Trump Jr., a human trash can, has said women who don't wish to be harassed ought to become kindergarten teachers, and that he's more concerned about his sons being falsely charged than his daughters being assaulted.  Lunatic. 

In other news, appears Kim Jong-Un is dead or at least a vegetable.

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Well at the same time, Sarah Michelle Gellar premiered as Buffy Summers and largely destroyed most female lead stereotypes.  The staff Sliders had for season 3 were atrocious, but that was Fox.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … force.html

Is this the "Good Job Browney" of this mess?  A DOG BREEDER was in charge of the taskforce initially?????

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More proof Trump's policy as late as the end of the February was to hide the truth about the dangers from the outbreak.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/health-chi … 1587570514

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWOsSY8XYAIOO3u?format=png&name=small

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They had crushes of the week in every Sliders episode going back to The Pilot.  It may not have gotten as ridiculous as Kari in Season 3, but it was just idiot execs at Fox demanding it.  TV execs back then were plain dummies, which is why the best science fiction was in syndication.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/11/7/1 … ry-clinton

Very interesting article from 2016, which I think we must have missed on this board.  Author speaks to the co-writers of the draft script, Dawn Prestwich & Nicole Yorkin, and their disappoint over the final script.  They decided not to work on Sliders again.

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ireactions wrote:

It's interesting to also compare Informant's uniform defense of Donald Trump with his uniform condemnation of Barack Obama. Obama made many mistakes in office: a weak stimulus plan, overuse of executive power, drone warfare without sanction or review, heavy deportation, a failure to observe the threat posed by Russia, an inability to connect with the poor and working class who brought Trump to office after him, an insistence on supporting Hillary Clinton for president (which he came to regret during her campaign which he would privately describe as "soulless") and perhaps he should have outright confronted birthers with his birth certificate rather than let that stupid conspiracy theory go on for as long as it did.

But while Informant criticizes Obama, he calls the media-shy from 2016 - 2019 Obama divisive for trying to undermine the Trump presidency while somehow excusing the most aggressively antagonistic president in history from criticism. He calls Obama arrogant for having no false modesty about his intelligence when Trump declares himself a genius and a medical doctor to no comment from Informant. He calls Obama a liar when Trump has made, as of the end of March 2020, approximately 18,000 false claims in the press or on social media.

Shouldn't Informant have being going after Trump just as hard as he did Obama? But Informant gives Donald Trump a pass. The only reason I can see is that Trump is white and Obama is black.

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In terms of Informant, he's simply not someone you can discuss politics with any sort of rationality.  I used to have WARS with him on the old boards regarding the 2000/2004 elections.  Facts didn't seem matter, and he would offer up his religious beliefs as an argument.  Which is fine, but I never understood why he was watching science fiction?  I mean, he would literally bash Supernatural episodes because they described Biblical figures inaccurately, which I always laughed at, considering both pieces of work are fiction, ha ha.  wink

Anyway, of course he's full on Trump, he is and was a giant hypocrite.  Sorry, but you can't be a devout Christian and look the other way at the kind of charlatan Trump is.  There's literally dozens of examples in the "Good Book" warning against the behavior and type of person which Trump is.  He was a nice guy, and I enjoyed his views on almost anything but politics.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I just don't get this either.  He's a liar and an adulterer.  You can like that he fights against abortion, but I don't know how people can say that he's a godly man.  Just admit it.  He's a bad person but he "stands for" what you stand for.  Him being in power makes you feel safer or makes you richer or you like that the president looks like you and not Obama.

People are stubborn.  Believe me, I have many relatives and friends who are fiscal Republicans, and while they personally dislike Trump, they are so stupidly ingrained with hating Democrats they simply must back him.  As if Obama was somehow the destroyer of what I don't know?  They do NOT like immigrants, and Trump wins with them for sure.  They also have the usual tact that any sort of social program is bad, not because they pay taxes.  No, it's really from selfishness, that if those at the bottom are brought up, it will bring them down.  They enjoy being able to scoff at the less fortunate.

ireactions wrote:

On China: I merely mean I'd prefer that language in media differentiate Chinese government from Chinese ethnicity. I know the Biden campaign is not racist, but for Asians in America taking a lot of abuse and stigma, they view that lack of distinction as racism and that's pretty understandable. And takes one to two extra words to avoid that. "The Chinese government" as opposed to "the Chinese" or "China." Surely those extra syllables could be provided.

On Admissions: As much as I dislike neo-Nazis and white supremacists and misogynists, at least they have the courage (or depravity) to declare who and what they are -- as opposed to trying to shield their stances by calling themselves alt-right men's rights activists and then falling silent when their positions become obvious in their irrationality as they know voicing them would put them outside the realm of reasoned discussion.

And I admit all. Joe Biden is a crashingly mediocre, average person who "stands for" what I "stand for" (at least when a camera is rolling) and him being in power would make me feel safer and if the US stabilized, I would certainly become richer and I like it that a President Biden would remind me of my grandfather who was a man with attitudes from a specific era in the past who took care of me but had many shortcomings and social difficulties while still being a (generally) responsible, hardworking, generous soul.

I dunno if I'd want my grandfather to be leader of the free world, but if I had to choose between him or someone who's already allowed 40,000 Americans to die and still won't get to work on getting personal protective equipment and medical supplies to the states he took an oath to serve, I'd have to go with Grandfather and do what I could to help him not completely screw up at his job. I mean, at least Grandpop is working on getting his transition team together while having the humility to concede that the race isn't won yet and he's just prepping for if he does win it.

Look, we as a nation will never be able to deal with China without international buy in.  Trump's go it alone approach has been awful.  In terms of the alt-right, even the neo-Nazi's are full of crap.  They're all cry baby snowflakes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ … 581710002/

Well Biden DID author an op ed on January 27, 2020 in the USA Today which literally said, "The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president."  He mostly blamed his poor judgment and rejection of science, before listing several approaches that worked during the Obama administration but Trump has abandoned.  Biden has repeatedly mentioned the DPA (Defense Production Act), and while Trump has claimed to have invoked it, in reality he has not.  The DPA is designed to have FEMA pay for the construction and/or usage of facilities and equipment.  FEMA then solicits private industry to run the plants, since this is their expertise, and ramp up production to war-time levels.  When the demand is gone, the industry packs up and FEMA closes or sells the plant.  You cannot expect private industry to spend $150 million on a plant that they will have no use for in 2 years time.  Only the US Government can do this, and that is why we have no tests, or PPE, and are still relying on shipments from China.  Trump is a failed businessman, and now a horribly failed government leader.

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First of all, the Chinese government deserve a LOT of blame.  They are secretive and deceitful and they have preyed upon weak 3rd world nations to advance their agenda.  They have earned the distrust.  Trump is a joke on this subject, because his tariff war has done nothing to address this.  His running out of the Trans Pacific Partnership (which many liberals like Bernie agreed with doing) greatly weakened our position.  The TPP was designed to give other nations in Asia a leg up on China, and keep them in check, but Trump is a moron.

Secondly, once again, it's unfortunate that people will blame all of China, but there is a significant part of the culture which is archaic and a threat to the natural world, and has been for decades.  The wet markets are disgusting and frankly, must be banned.  The government won't do it.  Chinese "traditional medicine," about as valid in my book as voodoo, has guaranteed the extinction of the elephant and rhino and many other species.  Shark fin soup is not far before.  If China wishes to join the world community in the 21st century, they need to step up.  Fat chance.   That being said, factory farming here in the USA is about as reprehensible just not as dangerous virus wise.  I know not saying much.

In terms of Informant, he's simply not someone you can discuss politics with any sort of rationality.  I used to have WARS with him on the old boards regarding the 2000/2004 elections.  Facts didn't seem matter, and he would offer up his religious beliefs as an argument.  Which is fine, but I never understood why he was watching science fiction?  I mean, he would literally bash Supernatural episodes because they described Biblical figures inaccurately, which I always laughed at, considering both pieces of work are fiction, ha ha.  wink

Anyway, of course he's full on Trump, he is and was a giant hypocrite.  Sorry, but you can't be a devout Christian and look the other way at the kind of charlatan Trump is.  There's literally dozens of examples in the "Good Book" warning against the behavior and type of person which Trump is.  He was a nice guy, and I enjoyed his views on almost anything but politics.

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Hey SQ21, I have been to Texas, and though you won't get me there in the summer, I enjoyed the heck out of it!  Then again, I've enjoyed most places I've been in the USA.  Believe it or not, Las Vegas remains a dump of shit IMO, with Cincinnati not far behind, ha ha ha!

ireactions, we have to tamper any sort of progressive "agenda" for the next term, even if Biden wins.  We will be picking up the pieces from this virus well into 2022. 

In terms of UK politics, PM Boris Johnson is now being slammed similar to Trump, for mismanaging the early weeks of this outbreak.  In his case, he was missing meetings to deal with his pregnant GF and irate wife, as well as dismissing warnings privately from UK health experts.  More evidence that electing a small time big mouth lacking valid executive experience has consequences.

https://www.axios.com/boris-johnson-ski … 1e7db.html

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Well the reality is that most of the complainers, and there are not that many of them, will get their wish before long.  Florida is already opening stuff up, then Texas.  More will follow, although Japan is dealing with a huge Tokyo flareup following relaxation of rules there.  Mask-wise even in NYC they're only mandating in certain places.  Like a restaurant can deny you service if you're barefoot or shirtless.  Anyway, none of these "protesters" are really all that interested in restoring their livelihoods as much as they feel empowered by the dufus who rallied them there.

Meanwhile, Matt Drudge made news by calling out Trump's blatant lie, that their growing criticism of Trump's aversion to the truth has cost them visitors over the past year. Instead, Drudge stated they've never had more. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/18/media/ma … index.html

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Meanwhile, hundreds took to the street, devoid of protection, on orders from Bozo the Clown in Chief...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … virus.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/18/00/27336460-8228769-The_president_tweeted_his_support_for_the_protesters_just_a_day_-a-19_1587166116384.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/18/00/27336458-8228769-Some_of_the_protesters_wore_masks_while_others_did_not_and_very_-a-17_1587166116277.jpg

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

That's what's interesting - does the virus hurt or help Republicans?  The assumption has always been that any voter suppression helps Republicans (because Republicans vote and there are more Democrats in general).  But as I've said before, I don't know if it necessarily helps in this case:

You hit about 20 nails on the head at once!  The virus is now spreading quite badly in rural America, which is older, and has limited healthcase access and bad hospitals.  Limiting mail in voting will likely hurt Trump's chances, oh well.

ireactions wrote:

Yesterday, Trump shrieked that it was up to him to decide if state lockdown orders were lifted, not state governors. "When somebody’s president of the United States, the authority is total," he snapped. CNN's Kaitlan Collins replied with an astonished, "That is not true -- who TOLD you that?" Trump couldn't answer.

It's intriguing because The Atlantic had an article recently about how Joe Biden, as Transmodiar said, stands for nothing, embodies nothing and is an empty vacuum of vague centricism and triangulation. Writer Nathan Schneider said this was ideal: by design, the term "president" is distinctly toothless and empty. A president is not a ruler. A president presides over a coalition of broad interests and sets the tone for his administration and the different levels of government to pursue their goals and concerns. A president's authority is within his specific level of government.

First, Trump already CAVED to the Northeast Governors and was forced to admit they call the shots.  Second, Biden's refusal to take any sort of position that would weigh him down is exactly what's propelled him to this point.  That said, he's come right out in support of several liberal policies from Warren and Sanders, which in the face of a 2nd Great Depression, will be quite advantageous.

Lastly, Trump is running out of organizations to blame.  Now it's the WHO, who he has halted money to, despite the prospect of 2nd and 3rd virus waves being more likely without worldwide action.  This is what he said about that group in late February....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta … 7740174339

The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!

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ireactions wrote:

Democrats win in Wisconsin despite -- or because? -- of voter suppression.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 … court.html

Did Republican voter suppression tactics inadvertently suppress more Republicans than Democrats?

Sure sounds like it!!! ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

PS: the victory means the state Supreme Court will not be able to throw 240,000 voters off the rolls prior to November, hampering the GOP voter suppression efforts in WI.  WHAaaaaahhhh whaaaaahhhhh

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In other news, Andrew Cuomo has formed an I-95 corridor Governor group (PA, NJ, NY, CT, RI) to determine economic/social distance efforts in what seems like opposition to Trump's, which features his economic team, the Jared/Ivanka, and NO public health officials.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVgbqTxXsAA4eIn?format=jpg&name=small

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12u9CLeqsXY

Joe and Bernie had a live stream today, announced 6 working task force groups that their people will work on economy, education, criminal justice, immigration, climate change, and the economy (Biden said it twice, LOL).  Basically agreed on most things.  Bernie went full-on flame over Trump.

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TemporalFlux wrote:

The management of that factory waited until 240 people were sick before they shut it down?   Around 3,700 people work at that plant; so that’s around 6% of the work force.  To give perspective under that thought, that would be like waiting until we knew 20 million + people in the US were infected before we shut it down.  I said “knew” - a certainty like that plant was looking at.  I’m not talking about the ones not known.

You're not talking about an industry that has given a crap about food safety much in the past.  Their treatment of the livestock is bad enough, cannot expect much better for the employees, many of which are immigrants.  Anytime within a corporate hierarchy, similar to what went on in China, people in the middle grow fearful of repercussions so they don't report these things.  I'm in the middle of the storm, and some supermarket chains like Shop-Rite are publicly reporting when a store's employee is sick, and there's a cleaning.  Others like Stop N Shop say nothing.  Some have built up plexiglass barricades for cashiers and provided masks and gloves, others have done nothing.  It's the wild west out there, but my point was more that because our culture has moved to centralized, megafactories for everything from food to N95 masks, we are at grave risk for massive shortages when those centralized factories go down.

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Funny you mentioned Packwood, because he's been a highly successful lobbyist for 30 years since then!  Some punishment.

Anyways, on the election front, we still remain a joke in terms of testing, with Trump and other GOP'ers wishing to open, open, open.  This is highly troubling, as the nation's food supply remains in jeopardy.  Food processors, distributors, and supermarkets have seemingly been non-stop shutting down for days or weeks due to the virus spread.  Warehouses for all goods have been affected, but you don't hear much because it's corporations trying to keep it hush, hush. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/12/business … index.html

I think this election (should it happen) goes beyond politics, and who you may have desired to be a candidate.  As I've said multiple times, the public have the rest of the spring and then the summer, to make a final determination on granting four more years to the worst President in modern history.  "The first rule of hole digging is when you find yourself in one, stop digging."

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Well his vote like mine won't mean squat, as we live in blue states, but equating 4 years of Joe Biden, which at worst would be "Obama Lite" and another 4 years of Trump, is just not valid.  Not just from a conservative/progressive point of view, but primarily one guy has spent 3.5 lying to the public about well, everything, and one would not.  Biden's position on climate change is instantly a course correction from Orange.

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ireactions wrote:

Slate.com on why Biden's blandness is so appealing and why Trump running rings around Biden might just make Biden look like a good choice for the Oval Office:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 … a=taps_top

The greatest example of Biden’s indestructability—the biggest attack that didn’t take—was Trump’s own effort to extort Ukraine to “open” an investigation into Biden. It’s hard to appreciate in hindsight how colossally that gambit failed, but fail it did. Trump got himself impeached trying to smear Biden! And it cost Biden virtually nothing politically.

“Look, it’s simple,” he told the New York Times before the Iowa caucuses, laughing. “They’re smearing me to try to stop me, and they know if I’m the nominee, I’m going to beat Donald Trump like a drum.”

In political terms, Biden is an inert gas. His main superpower—and I think it really might be one in this landscape—is that he doesn’t come across as reactive.

Despite his occasional outbursts of temper (which no doubt help him scan as “authentic”), the former vice-president is intriguingly immune to the personal grudges around which Trump builds his entire politics. Sure, there’s a more complicated version of him, but Biden telegraphs as the definition of a nice, normal guy. That’s why Barack Obama picked him to be his running mate, after all.

Despite Trump’s efforts to extort a U.S. ally to manufacture a smear against him, Biden offered to call Trump on the phone to help him deal with the pandemic. The (meaningless) phone call happened, and Biden—whose idea it was—set the terms for the tone and won. Biden calling Trump “very gracious” is meaningless (this is what a nice guy persona does for you), but Trump describing his call with Biden as a “wonderful, warm conversation” notched Biden an immense moral victory.

He just doesn’t seem to take things personally, and while that was a perfectly ordinary quality among politicians at one point, it might be operating as a real political asset in a landscape where the president punishes people who criticize him by denying them lifesaving equipment.

Biden doesn’t just rise above. He floats so high you can barely see him. There’s no reading a country, and one hesitates to invoke the silent majority, but judging by Biden’s numbers, an ability to take punches without striking back is a quality many Americans seem to miss. And because he’s known for gaffes—yet another inoculation!—he doesn’t get punished for saying things other politicians might take real heat for.

His challenge was to run against the biggest, loudest media hog in the history of American politics, and he has met that challenge by barely appearing at all—and by making his appeals so mild you don’t even remember what they were.

A Biden tweet asking for donations is almost comically opposed to Trump’s screaming appeals to destroy the enemy. “Folks, I know these are tough times, but this crisis has made it clearer than ever how much elections matter—and what a difference it makes who is in the White House. If you can, please chip in to fuel our campaign. I would really appreciate it.” I can’t believe this is the strategy in a political landscape based on gun-to-your-head rhetoric. But there it is: The tone isn’t DONATE NOW TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC; it’s “if you can, please chip in.”

This is why people like Biden. Transmodiar is right to say that Trump is very heavily armed, but Biden is fundamentally disarming.

My guess is that Biden's campaign will simply give The Donald more than "enough rope to string himself up with."  Look, Trump cannot wait to take a victory lap.  He truly does not care who dies in the interim, not one bit.  He wants his victory lap, which will of course consist of flying around the country to rallies, and the GOP convention in Charlotte, where he will do his shtick.  The comparisons (mainly in ads) will be clear.  Trump is a crook, he is a liar, he's wreckless, and he's a poor leader.  This pandemic has illustrated the lack of leadership.  Every other day it's something else.  Arguing with reporters, the Navy Captain being relieved, insulting Governors, crowing about unproven miracle drugs, and dismissing the virus for 6 weeks.  And that's not even counting Charlottesville, Michael Cohen, Wikileaks, celebrity pardons, firing Comey, Ukraine, Giuliani, Hurricane Maria, callousness following mass shootings, betraying NATO, secret Russian meetings, and North Korea coddling.  Not to mention his attempt to start a war with Iran, that was only interrupted by the coronavirus.  There's more ammunition than you get in an session on Call of Duty.  His administration has gutted the federal government, making a response to this pandemic 50 times more difficult.  The departments are littered with acting this or that, many seasoned officials have quit or been fired.  He literally shot 300 holes in the boat, and now we're all sinking. 

The one advantage Biden has over the rest of the Dem field (including Bernie) was that he's so well known to voters he almost doesn't need to say anything.  This is what I've been saying for months.  Team Trump were most fearful of Biden's familiarity, particularly with blue collar workers, and even moreso, the Obama factor.  Barack and Michelle remain enormously popular, and people liked what they did for the country, with Joe along for the ride.  Trump, as we know, despises the first African-American family probably more than any other politicians alive. 

https://twitter.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/12 … 6075365387

Here's a great vid/GIF I saw, in which it summed up how many times Trump tweeted about his political enemies, FOX News, and himself, rather than doctors, nurses, PPE, ventilators, etc through March 13 (i.e. the period of time he should have been urging the nation to be prepared).  The man has zero empathy.  Contrast him to the magnanimous speech by Queen Elizabeth II, it's almost comical how awful he is at leading.

In many ways, I picture this being Gargamel vs. Papa Smurf.  Biden will have the best speech writers around feeding him while Trump will continue to babble from the hip.  Biden needs to massively fix his online presence and youth outreach.  He will swing to the left on most of the Bernie platform, save Medicare for All which is simply too big.  Green New Deal, free college, debt forgiving, etc, etc, he's already in on from back in the Obama administration.  His team should be hiring Bernie's team members quickly.

I am not concerned about Team Trump spewing lies and other nonsense against Biden, who's career is an open and largely moldy book at this point.  My primary concern remains the execution of the election in November.  The Republican refusal to expand Vote by Mail is my big one.  Which is hilarious considering most of their constituency is old and WANTS to vote by mail and not go to crowded polling places!

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You can't even get close to passing 1/1,000th of Bernie's gift list without control of Congress.  The GOP is against every single thing Bernie stands for, and with him on the top of the ticket, the Democrats lose Congress.  That is what freaked the party rank and file out the most.  Republicans spent a decade plus winning state elections, that gave them favorable gerrymandered districts, and locked in the House majority.  You have to win before you can try to push an agenda.

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Trump immediately went back to the well of Dems screwed Bernie, Elizabeth Warren screwed Bernie, blah blah blah, join the Republican Party.  Good Lord Twitter was as toxic as Chernobyl today after this news.  Frankly the behavior of these lunatics only serve to embarrass Sen. Sanders and just about everything he's ever stood for. 

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As I have written multiple times, the fact that Bernie went from 2/5th's support in the party to 1/3rd in four years was quite telling.  Honestly, like Trump, his percentage in 2016 may well have been a result of the opponent, Hillary Clinton.  This never Trumper columnist Tim Miller wrote a fairly sarcastic and in some ways scathing and disrespectful analysis of the loss for Bernie.

https://thebulwark.com/bernie-sanders-d … ts-own-bs/

While I don't particularly like his tone, he IS a Republican, so he's no Bernie fan.  He did mirror my assessment here.  Social Media on the left was staunchly backing Bernie, overwhelmingly over any other candidate.  His campaign stops generated larger crowds, with more volunteers and more small donations online.  All of that was a great accomplishment by his campaign.  However, unlike Trump in 2016, they failed to parlay that into votes. 

Why?  Well Trump did two very critical things.  First, he stomped his way into the race by spewing nationalism, which endeared him to those on the right who were sick of the establishment.  As time went on, he brilliantly co-opted economic populism, drawing in disaffected voters who often watched/listened to right wing media, but rarely participated.  It's kinda difficult to go vote for candidates when that media demonizes pretty much all of them, in both parties.  That coalition was 40-45% early on in the primary, with Trump eventually pushing over 50% as other GOP voters saw him gain steam.  Obviously now he's a deity with them.

Enter Bernie, who never got about 30-35%.  Well, that's about all you have on the uber progressive left.  Perhaps give him some of Warren's support, which was not all ultra liberal, and he gets above 40% in the 2-way but little more.  His campaign targeted youth voters, as well as those of color, and that was about it.  Crowd sizes and social media chatter do not equal votes.  They counted on vastly increasing youth turnout, a historic folly.  Turn out among that demographic was DOWN in 2020 primaries over 2016! 

What really did him in?  Well, he refused to give an inch.  It was either 100% BERN, or nothing.  That is a loser in national politics, and always will be.  You MUST come back to the center, it's the only way.  It cost Warren, and she was not as far left as Bernie.  When estimates began coming out for his Medicare for All at literally nonsensical figures, it was dead in the water.  Warren couldn't even give numbers for her plan.  The other candidates attacked, and voters said, huh, wait a second? 

This might not mean much to some, but Bernie is NOT a Democrat, Joe Biden IS.  Bernie remains an Independent as a Senator, not a Democrat.  He hasn't been seen at the forefront of Democrat-backed and signed legislation the way Biden has been.  Or how Elizabeth Warren burst onto the scene during the financial mess of a decade ago.  She served in Obama's cabinet. 

I really take offense at the Bernie Bro bashing of the DNC, as if the donor class of elites or some shit handed this primary to Biden.  Biden stepped in last summer, and was immediately the polling leader.  He slipped during the winter, no question, but while the media legit ignored him, he raised little money, and was expected to disappear.  He did not, and why?  None of the other moderates succeeded in closing the deal themselves, but it all came back to Trump.  There is a clear (and LARGE) majority of Democratic voters, NOT donors or elites, but voters, who went to Biden.  They're not the ones on Twitter railing endlessly about Trump, they are in fact, the ones who show up and vote.  That's what gets it done at the end of the day.  Biden ran one of the most simplistic if minimalist campaigns I've ever seen.  He made it clear, I will beat Trump, and I will stop the damage he has done to the government, its institutions, and America's standing in the world.  I will staff our federal agencies with good people like Obama did, unlike Trump's skeleton crew of acting whatevers.  Bernie Sanders never shifted to gain the preference of what are 2/3 nearly of the Democratic electorate, mostly those over the age of 30-35, and particularly those above 60.  They weren't interested in megolithic government programs.  They want the Trump nightmare to end.  They are shell-shocked by it.  They just want it to end.  They view Biden as decent, caring, and trustworthy, the antithesis of the Donald.

Sorry, I do not.  I don't recall those being on the DVD's.

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Bernie Sanders has ended his campaign today. 

As for Trump, he's in disapproval on his handling of all this.  It also came out that he has a financial stake in the drug company producing hydroxychloroquine, to everyone's shock, ha ha.

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What happened in Wisconsin today was a prelude to November.  Tons of even blue states cannot handle an all-mail in ballot election in November.  Republicans have stacked the courts.  They will prevent changes to election laws to combat this virus and allow people to vote safely.  You can't even protest because they'll fine you for not social distancing.

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It's the modern GOP in full view.  They don't want people voting.  Democracy is dead.