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In regards to the protests spreading COVID, I'm sure there's some of that, but did Florida, Arizona, South Carolina, Texas, etc. see the bulk of them?  Nope.  The states opened with few restrictions and the political leaders basically told people, it's over with, don't worry about it anymore.  If you look at it state by state, the reality is, once again, the virus grew from surges in low income, often migrant workforces who are forced to work and live in unsafe conditions (for COVID), and have no healthcare access.  From there, it spreads and spreads.  Many of them are indeed young.  Most of the spiking states are either on the Mexican border, or rely on migrant labor like Florida.  Like the Iowa meat processing industry, the state's simply didn't do squat to protect those people, and now they're paying the price. 

As for Fauci, I mean, he's not a politician, and he DID say the protests could be an issue.  It's not his job to say, well this will spread the virus so shut it down, because he and everyone else knew that wasn't going to happen. 

Anyway, my point remains that the protests are not what has caused a spike in the virus.  Just look at California.  The county that has seen massive, I mean massive spikes?  Imperial County right on the border.

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I don't know how you find these things!

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Biden has a 10 point favor-ability above Hillary.  His leads in demographics like white women, college educated, over 65, etc, etc, are literally light years above Hillary.  Trump is minus 12-15 on almost every question polled.  In 2016, the winds of change, particularly in the Rust Belt, were slightly with Trump.  This time it's a gale force blast against Trumpism.  You've got COVID-19 blowing up again in the Sun Belt.  Biden gives speeches that only MSNBC runs, while Trump is lambasted by social media ads from Republicans against him.  If this keeps up, Trump will probably quit and run away, which is his M.O. over 50 years of business.  Bankruptcy after bankruptcy.  If he has to choose between being a quitter and being perhaps history's biggest loser, he'll chose to quit.  That's why he's had Bill Barr attempting to erase "Individual 1" from the Michael Cohen case, so that Trump is not indicted the minute he's out of office.

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ireactions wrote:

I have this bag of pennies I've been longing to imbed into the back of a theatre texter's neck.

Why do you carry $200 cash? Isn't that a bit much to have as you wander the streets? Do you use it to bribe informants to find celebrities to photograph? Did Allison Mack invite you to join her cult?

son I keep it all in the floorboards, can't have my double sliding in and emptying my ATM account!

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TemporalFlux wrote:

Another strange occurrence caused by the new reality of the pandemic - coins.  I had wondered why I was suddenly getting shiny, new coins from all of my area businesses.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/e … -shortage/

Ha ha ha!  I've had the same $200 bucks in my wallet since March.  Haven't gone to a gas station (where I normally use cash) either.

Well the network would have been lambasted for trying to make sarcastic light of the situation.  I'm kind of surprised Torme would have gone that far, given he came from Star Trek where Roddenberry refused to paint humanity as racist in the "future," though he did so with other alien species.  It would've been tough, plus I'm not sure if the producers, director, or Cleavant himself would have been okay with that.  Let's not forget that you had a Sliders writing duo who weren't in fact pleased with Weaker Sex as it was, portraying women as characatured bad.  I think it's too extreme, because the real story is obviously, very bad, and by trying to swap it around, you are somewhat absolving reality.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … laved.html

Cracka, imagine Sliders writers ever tried this?????

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The police are just part of a greater problem in this society.  We have most of the worlds guns, legal and illegal, most of the "illegal drugs," the most expensive and least productive health care, the worst income disparities, the most prisons and prisoners, the most overpriced colleges, yada yada yada.  Both good and bad cops are forced to navigate this mess, same as the rest of us. 

They used to claim it was the breakdown of the family, but no, it's privileged stressing the other 98% into stressful horror that they have to call their lives.  It used to be forces were split up, but almost all forces have lined up this way.  This began with Reagan, with the need to break unions, public education, public healthcare, and the like.  It got worse.  Bush II sold whatever public institution they could, as if investors HAD to be involved with every fucking second and ounce of our lives.  This is where we've gotten now.  Corporations are unstoppable, while hedge funds and banks are allowed to rob us blind, and if they falter, we pay to bail them out. 

Climate Change will only make these concerns more heightened, as will pandemics (this wasn't the last one we'll see).  We have allowed corrupt corporations and governments to destroy our ecosystem.  The Earth will not go quietly, it will purge us too one day.  Action must be taken. 

All of this angst cannot be fixed overnight, and it won't be.  It will be a struggle for vigilance.  The first step is to rid the world of the most corrupt, morally destitute, emotionally unhinged, and unintelligent President of a Democracy in human history, before it's too late.  Hell even Putin yesterday "said" that Trump is losing his grip, and they (Moscow) will have to start thinking about the future.  He must go, he must go.  I realize the people who may succeed him are not perfect, and will still have to battle with an opposition party who will refuse to compromise, but when the food is rotten, toss it first before trying to clean the fridge.

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This is what happens when your President decides a national health crisis no longer is worth his time. 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea4P4DNXQAEPtJx?format=jpg&name=small

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President by quorum is better than by quack!

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Klobuchar called Biden today, suggested he choose a woman of color in this moment, and dropped from consideration.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1273803046687047681

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It's an election for/against Trump.  As long as Biden proves he's not totally senile, he's going to be the safe, normal anti-Trump choice.  From there it's about who actually goes ahead and votes.  Biden does not have enthusiasm on his side, just excuse Trump anger.

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So you cannot ignore the polls, even though many were wrong in 2016.  Well, the national ones were not that bad, state polls were.  The Trump undercount in the state polls still happens, because white non-college educated voters tend to be more difficult to keep on the phone and answer the pollster's questions.  In 2016, pundits argued they were just embarrassed to say Trump, but that is not an issue now, he's the damn President.  National polls though are much more accurate because the huge swath of demographics can be fulfilled because they can hit a much wider sample size. 

If you look at the national polling, Biden is now on average up 8-9 points and growing.  He's been consistently in the lead with likely voters since 2019.  Yes, Clinton won the popular vote but only by 3.3%.  If Biden were to win that by even 5-6% though polling indicates a higher gap, there's simple little possibility for Trump in the Electoral College.  The reason for this is mainly with probability calculations, but to be 6+% up, it's just very difficult.  Hell at 3% he won three critical states by less than 100,000 votes in total.

One of the interesting sites I look at was created by a college freshman, Jack Kersting, https://projects.jhkforecasts.com/presi … -forecast/  He uses polling as well as Fundamentals (partisan lean, economic indexes), Expert's Ratings, and State Similarity Regression (demographic changes) to make a forecast. 

Then there is the modern expert, Five Thirty Eight, https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po … national/, which does a great job at tracking all of the national and state polls.

Finally we have Real Clear Politics, https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … _map.html, who have an interactive map and do the gold standard in polling averages.  RCP is also very selective in what polls it includes in the averages.

With all of that said, to chime in on what SQ21 calculated, I have it Biden 222 Trump 125 right now in terms of absolute guaranteed votes.  What's left?

Let's take states that are not "in the bag" yet, though likely, for one or the other....Iowa (T), Minnesota (B), Texas (T), Georgia (T), Nebraska 2nd (T), Michigan (B).   Yes I know Michigan went for Trump in 2016, but ALL of the polling is totally to Biden by a highly safe number. 

That's now Biden 248 Trump 186 with 104 votes remaining, and Biden only needing 22.  The states included are Arizona, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Maine's 2nd district. 

There's many scenarios, but if Biden takes PA, he's 2 votes shy.  While the Maine 2nd would tie the two of them, Biden would lose the tie breaking house vote (it's done by state delegations and that's unlikely to favor him after 2020 election even).  So he then needs only one other state, likely to be AZ, WI, FL, or NC.  I don't see Ohio flipping. 

If I had to estimate where the race is right now, I'd say 333-205, but again, it's tough because the state polling might be off again.  Look a LOT can change, but you cannot ignore trends.  The trend since 2017 has been mass turnout and move away from Trump.  The GOP has been steamrolled all over the country under his leadership.  James Carville predicts a blow out, which I'd adore but not counting on.  Biden in like polls is doing far better with suburbanites, independents, women, and even high school only white guys than Hillary. 

Now in terms of Transmodiar's lamentations, I'll go back to Carville.  Bernie ran a good campaign, but in the end, the rank and file of the Democratic Party voting against him.  He only had about 30% support in most of the country.  And if you get away from the coasts, it just was not there.  Like Trump, he opted to be populist, and that just doesn't have a big enough tent.

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ireactions wrote:

But, in your view, neither Trump nor Biden are concerned by the lack of registration?

Not entirely.  In many states where voter suppression is rampant, those states disenfranchise minority and poor voters substantially.  The Democratic Party and other progressive groups have been battling there.  Basically, they purge voter rolls, often without good reason and illegally.  That means the voter must register again, and with COVID-19, who knows how difficult that will be.  Plus the Trump Campaign plans to pay thousands of people to sit at polling places and challenge every voter than can to prevent them from legally voting.  This is work that happens all the time from Civil and Voting rights groups to prevent this.

My comment was more about the youth (generally first time) voter registration that happens on campuses, concerts, etc.  That group obviously sways heavily Democratic, but as I say all the time, they do not vote.  Repeat, they do not vote.  Yes, it's a problem perhaps for Biden, but he has biggest concerns dealing with voting demographics who actually go out and vote being preventing from doing so.

2018 say record midterm turnout by both parties, and the Republicans lost badly.  Trump has literally said, forget registration, he wants to stop people from voting period, or he will lose.

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Ehh, whatever they're doing that's a blip on the radar compared to what would normally have been done in the spring, summer and fall basically EVERYWHERE that young people congregate.

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ireactions wrote:

I am really worried about voter purges and voter suppression in November.

Made easier now because much of the voter registration will not happen.  That's done door to door, at colleges, or concerts, things like that.  None of which is happening.  Will be one of the worst youth turnouts ever, probably, suiting both candidates fine as neither are liked by them.

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Jon Stewart for the win

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cu … w-1015120/

“But the how isn’t as important as the why, which we never address,” he continued. “The police are a reflection of a society. They’re not a rogue alien organization that came down to torment the black community. They’re enforcing segregation. Segregation is legally over, but it never ended. The police are, in some respects, a border patrol, and they patrol the border between the two Americas. We have that so that the rest of us don’t have to deal with it. Then that situation erupts, and we express our shock and indignation. But if we don’t address the anguish of a people, the pain of being a people who built this country through forced labor — people say, ‘I’m tired of everything being about race.’ Well, imagine how [expletive] exhausting it is to live that.”

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TemporalFlux wrote:

Reminds me of the anecdote from Robert Lee in “Summer of Love”; he was one of the FBI agents interrogating Bennish at the start of the episode.  They ended up dubbing his voice in post production because he didn’t sound Asian enough for them.

Hmm, that's funny because he "starred" in the X-Files PC game and spoke quite a bit, but I never picked up on a different voice from his Sliders appearance.

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Well in my S5 rewatch they did go a lot further than in prior seasons to hit on the "throw away worlds" for laughs.  Didn't get any cheaper budget wise than that year. 

As for looking into doubles, back then it was difficult to film that way, for the actors and crew.  I'm not sure if technology has proceeded enough by this point?  I guess not using stand ins would help in the current COVID-19 era.

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I'm watching Map of the Mind, why the heck did they dubbed the young black actress with a voice that sounds like a white woman imitating black, it's horrendous????  It's in the scene when Remmy and Maggie break into the art gallery.

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Good Lord that is a horrible noise!  That's literally unbearable.

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Saw these on the former Department Head Makeup Artist Stephanie Fowler's Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/stephfowlermakeup/....

Kari in S3

https://i.ibb.co/7QLBBSP/Kari-Wuhrer-Sliders-Stephanie-Fowler.jpg

Roger Daltrey

https://i.ibb.co/x5yZWhq/Roger-Daltrey-Sliders-Stephanie-Fowler.jpg

Jerry and Charlie in S4

https://i.ibb.co/4VcKg3J/O-Connell-Bros-Sliders-Stephanie-Fowler.jpg

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Well Trump has claimed the "Silent Majority" approve of what he's doing.  Whether they do or not, as I've said for awhile, you'll either get people break his way for that reason, or the opposite, to Biden simply because they are sick of MAGA.

That said, I think there's a fine line there, and a return to 1960's era fear and military street presence actually does him no good.  Ask the Dem ticket of '68 or Bush Sr. of '92 how riots combined with a faltering economy did for their re-elections.

You know something just dawned on me, was the "prom" blue tuxedo worn by Jerry intentionally similar to the Spinning Tops Cry Like a Man Rembrandt tuxedo?

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ireactions wrote:

TF is referring to the text of Mr. Schmidt's tweets on June 20, 2018:

Steve Schmidt wrote:

Twenty nine years and nine months ago, I registered to vote and became a member of the Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today, I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

Holy Moley!  Now that's an interesting coincidence.  Let me tell ya, that's a long ass damn time, too.  29.7 years ago I was in Junior High School, my mind completely fried between tougher schoolwork, girls, sports, video games, and well, girls.

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TemporalFlux wrote:
ireactions wrote:

Long time Republican campaigner Steve Schmidt, who is responsible for Sarah Palin, renounced the Republican party after Trump and pinned a lengthy repudiation on his Twitter account at https://twitter.com/steveschmidtses -- and showed that it's okay to admit when we've made a mistake.

Just an aside regarding Schmidt’s tweet, but it’s rare to see someone mention that it’s been almost exactly 29.7 years since they did something.  He missed the slide all those years ago and has been stuck on that world waiting.

Wait wuhhhhhhhhhh?

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The GOP has been in bed with lobbyists for decades.  The days of leadership from Reagan or Bush Sr. or Dole, people like that, are long gone.  They have pushed sensible people out, replacing a lobby-friendly Tom Dashell (Dem) with a (Rep) who's 10x worse John Thune, for example.  Others like Alan Simpson have left.  They have had this echo chamber in Fox News where they are never challenged.  Gone are the days when McConnell might have had to explain himself on a regular network or the old CNN.  Now they simply talk to their base only.  This was all before the tea party, which ushered in plenty of buffoons with no interest in governing.  And so, the GOP itself became this joke, full of opportunistic windbags who wilt at the first sign of scrutiny, and betrothed to special interests.  When they leave Washington, like classic foil Tom Delay, they get rich in lobbying.  What you have is a cadre of immoral spineless shrimp, and so the antics of Trump really mean little to them.  They have no values themselves to begin with, so why would his bother them?

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The past week is something I hoped to never see in my lifetime.  It's not even something that a show like Sliders took risks with early on.  This is complete madness.  People of all races protesting, others looting, and the rest vandalizing.  To see street fighting between protestors and cops, protestors and loser (mainly white) kids, white kids and cops, just stunning.  Then to have it capped off tonight with the President ordering a tear gassing and rubber bullet shootup of a peaceful protest so he can take a photo op with a book he's never read in front of a Church.

TemporalFlux wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:
TemporalFlux wrote:

I’ve come to realize that trivia and possessions really weren’t my goal (though I admit I do enjoy having displays of the production used Egyptian timer, Rickman timer and Slidewave generator in my home).

WHAT?!  Can we see??????  PLEASE!

I’ll see if I can get them lit up for a shot.  It’s a bit of pain to get the batteries in the Slidewave device - you essentially have to dismantle the whole thing and put it back together.  Amazingly, the bright camera ready lights on it run off 16 AA batteries.

When I got it from the prop master, he talked about how they had built a couple of them for use in the episode (one being used for the infamous spark scene that injured Jerry).  But it was clear which one I got.  They had taken a script and cut out Jerry’s line for that scene and taped it to the back of the emitter.  lol  It led me to wonder just how many secret places they had Jerry’s lines taped up in the episodes we watch.

Well even if you can't light it up, I'd love to see them all as is.  And hmm, are you saying Jerry was a regular Shatner? Ha ha.

PS: Hopefully your surgery goes great, please keep us in the loop.

TemporalFlux wrote:

I’ve come to realize that trivia and possessions really weren’t my goal (though I admit I do enjoy having displays of the production used Egyptian timer, Rickman timer and Slidewave generator in my home).

WHAT?!  Can we see??????  PLEASE!

a. MacGyver WAS the greatest show ever!!!!!!!!

b. I either never knew about Onliners or it has completely been whisked away from my memory.  I'm intrigued at the concept, especially that along with Heat of the Moment would have made a far better show than the post-Arturo garbage we got in S3.  I really would have loved to see a cranky Linda Henning!

Well yes, I would agree the Pukingpah stamp on the season is unmistakable.  I'm just trying to put that aside, as well as the fact that Torme could have had the reins again.  I guess what I really meant to say was that when the season first came out, I was in college, not even 20 years old yet.  My sensibilities were quite different, and I was annoyed with much of it, particularly the infamous rerun hell in which I would miss episodes over and over.  I'm now over 40, and so part of my reason for rewatching Sliders again was to judge how I view the show now.  I'm not saying that S4 has "grown" on me, for given the budget, and the general lack of care from the network, I'm just saying that it wasn't as bad as I last viewed it.  S5 I guess I'll have to suffer through next.

The Comet TV Sliders schedule just finished it's season 4 portion last week.  I've been rewatching, mainly via DVD's, although the transfer/upscale on those were awful compared to the Fox season DVD's.  But I digress.  Back at the time, after Fox canceled the show, Sci-Fi infamously picked it back up.  Clearly the budget was scaled down to next to nothing, resulting in frequent Chandler stays.  All in all, I've felt for years that the season featured quite a bit of good science fiction, even if it was often a bit "main stream" at that point.  Bill Dial, Chris Black, Marc Scott Zicree, and co. made sure of that.  The guest acting was largely okay as well, particularly the Kolitar guy, Thomas Mallory, and a number of others.  Charlie O'Connell was fairly unbearable, but what can you do?  He was cheap.  Anyway, my point is that I feel like it holds up well.

Welcome!

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That's actually not a bad way of spinning that hilarious Bill Gates conspiracy.  Frankly the more you explained it, the more crazy it sounded.  Would definitely fit right in on Sliders.  As for similarities, trust me, nobody remembers plots from Season 5!

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Serial killer of Quinn's only-Quinn Mallory, ha ha ha!  Flash mob world would undoubtedly feature President Jimmy Fallon! 

Such off the wall ideas TF, but fun nonetheless.  You know it's funny, in some ways it's like how I used to view the world bound by "Catholic guilt" I'm now viewing your ideas bound by Fox-itis!  I read something, and think, well the network wouldn't allow this, or nope that will cost too much money.  Hee heee. 

There are very elaborate concepts that might not be possible in a single episode.  I wonder if they'd make more sense to be fleshed out a little more in like 2 or 3 episode arcs?  Slower paced.  One thing you saw with Sliders was that they went through various incarnations.  S1-2 it was all about adapting to the world, S3 was all about fighting and fleeing and action, S4 was way over reliant on character interaction and introspective.  S5 was kind of a mixture of all of it.  I'm not sure which was the best choice, probably the S1-2 approach but with more character work.  To do that, I'd think you will have to slow the pace down.

Well they can use the same actors and sets, so it's cheaper, to be in the same time period.  I think Picard might open the door for "future" endeavors in the 24th century but I also don't think it's that necessary.

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Interesting, the "Nancy Grace" angle.  Trying to think back to the late 90's, there weren't too many media formats that would have covered this other than Howard Stern or National Enquirer or something like that.  Also, was Sliding declassified to the public?  That seems unlikely given that most conspiracy theorists allege pretty much nothing is by the federal government. 

You know what's ironic is, when I scan through television (network and streaming), Sliders would STILL have no place!  Science Fiction tinged in sarcasm and humor?  Everything is either kid/teen overload like Stranger Things or Locke and Key, or extremely dark.  I suppose Supernatural is an exception.  I would hate to see this script concept or any other given the teen treatment.  While I look forward to the new Ghostbusters, which does that, it's not right for Sliders.

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Finally got to reading the TF script, and I LOVED it!  While I'm not totally sure if the characters themselves are the right choices to have throughout a full season, the dark humor, improvisation to danger, and TV science goofiness (finding a chip in a door lock) was all quintessential Torme Sliders.  I think the premise, in that people on EP used Sliding with disastrous effects, is a great one.  Truly a novel way to connect back to, and potentially "run into" the original group again.  While I realize he provides a large part of the plot in this script, the only thing I'd change would be including Bennish long term on this ride.  Maybe this is blasphemous, but I never liked the character outside of being a rotten turd on the few worlds they visited.  I think he was established as villainous though I suppose he could be a "Dr. Smith" type of companion.  All in all, this was really a clever take on "rebooting the show" mainly because it's "small."  I fear that if Hollywood were to attempt it, they would immediately be busting their budget, which was never Torme's vision for this series.  In fact, your approach would succeed on a streaming service like Peacock because it wouldn't require insane budgets.

I watched it.  One person got in a Sliders mention, but she mostly spoke about her parenting, moving around and around, and such.  It was just nice to see/hear from her after so long.  Enjoying art with her daughter.  Apparently her husband has been going back and forth to Kenya, but is now stuck there for 5 months so far.  Whole family is supposed to move there in a few months but not sure.  Also spoke about getting her degree (after 10 years) just recently via Univ. of London.

Sabrina just did a livestream with her friend Jen Pastiloff today, here's the video!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAGMNTkHIiM … 1yYQPOlaWY

https://instagram.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.2885-15/e35/96405867_292776228394768_5896994571825128083_n.jpg?_nc_ht=instagram.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net&_nc_cat=104&_nc_ohc=I6WkTX-0NZ0AX-60Kji&oh=21a335b2dd17a4a3c45d59386e8f6e36&oe=5EE57161

Honestly, I cannot watch a series that doesn't have continuity anymore, I feel as though I'm just wasting my time.  Been that way for many, many years.

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Ironically a military member who is at the White House tested positive, not sure how much time Trump spends with him.  My father greeted the news by saying that Trump probably already has a vaccine himself, ha ha ha.

I would tune in if channel solely to catch a glimpse or too of Stana Katic, otherwise gahhhhhh, what trash!

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Well there's no question Trump will downplay this pandemic right through November.  The death toll will always be far better than expected because he "closed the border."  That's B.S., but that's his plan.  What he cannot lie about are economic numbers, which I think he's going to have a far tougher time "spinning."  As I've said, as long as the highest rates of infection and death continue to be with nursing homes, prisons, immigrant plant workers, and African-Americans, he will be happy.  Those are not his voters.  Now, he's an utter moron, and fails to comprehend that when those people are infected around the country, that his blue collar white voters will also be infected.  The virus is not racist.  Nor that those in rural areas have far worse access to healthcare and will pay dearly for that. 

Trump has made a political career out of smashing norms and taking risks.  Granted, the risks are calculated.  He has threatened Iran, who we all know are not going to get into a shooting war with the United States.  He fosters hatred and division, with little pushes here and there, because he knows what he can get away with.  He knew impeachment wouldn't stop him, because Mitch McConnell is a whore.  This virus doesn't answer to him or anybody else.  It's a completely random variable, and taking risks with it is absolutely insane.  Yet here we are.  Trump is gambling that the infections will subside with the warm weather, and stay away until at least after the election.  Either that and/or there will be working vaccines which he can boast about.  Again, this might work out, but it might also EFFFF all of us badly in the end.  Trump doesn't care, because it's about him winning, nothing else.

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The problem is scale, what Kushner has done just isn't big enough.  Biden for instance keeps saying Manhattan Project, which most people were not alive to witness.  That was a full-scale wartime effort, which this Kushner program is not.  There's really no reason it shouldn't have been either, as we're pissing away billions a day in economic losses.

BTW, another Tara Reade tidbit, as I myself continue to have a tough time untwisted what she has said in the past.  Apparently when she "chickened out" of something, it was a Senate Counseling program, idk, just way too confusing.

The Associated Press asked Reade about the complaint after uncovering notes from an interview last year in which she said she “chickened out” of filing a report. “They have this counseling office or something, and I think I walked in there once, but then I chickened out,” she said, according to a transcript of the interview last year. At the time, Reade had accused Biden of touching her inappropriately but did not detail the sexual assault allegations until this year. Reade says that her “chickened out” comment referred to the way she did not fully detail the assault allegations in the report.

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Well the "Murray" model was totally re-adjusted, after seeing cell phone data of people being more mobile, since many states have relaxed.  However, the major hotspots are currently nursing homes, prisons, and meat processing plants.  There was no testing and little protection at these places, and we're just now seeing huge spreads in Iowa, Texas, NM, Nebraska, etc., etc.  They don't even know it's happening because they don't test.  One plant had 400 positive, no symptoms, showing how widespread it is.  We have placed zero public concern for conditions at those types of places before this pandemic, and now it's blown up in our faces.  Testing, contact tracing, and cleaning up those plants, nursing homes, and prisons is not happening.  New York and California are ahead the most on those, and they aren't ready.

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I think it's bizarre she doesn't have a laywer.  While Reade's initial story might be genuine, her motivation at this point is simply dishonest.  She keeps saying she wants nothing from Joe Biden; however, it's quite obvious, she wants him to quit.  She had numerous opportunities to fade away, yet she's only ramped up both the seriousness of her details and complaints about the lack of media coverage since Biden's string of primary victories.  On this she is 100% full of shit, complaining that her story became "partisan."  No DUH it did, you're dreaming about Putin, then tweeting support of Bernie Sanders, and when Biden pulls ahead, oh hey excuse me, by the way, he assaulted me!!!  Then you're shocked people dismiss you as wishing political revenge, or perhaps an agent of Russia?  Come on.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-say … -a-success

With a pandemic ongoing, and a President who this weekend admitted that 35,000 more people will die in the next month due to his push to reopen the economy, and we have to deal with Reade?  Again, I know what that sounds like, but quite frankly, one woman's "uncomfortableness" from 3 decades ago should not outweigh tens of thousands (and who knows how many more) deaths compounded by an idiot in charge.  It's too late to change nominees, granted they haven't nominated anyone to this point, but you know what I mean.  The fallout from that will be horrendous, the Democratic ticket will be a clown show, while Trump never plays by these rules.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXCIEIGWAAAEV0K?format=jpg&name=small

https://apnews.com/aec7beb03e9e0e0e6e3c58111293e0ea

This is just too head spinning to follow anymore.  So last year, Reade said she chickened out, and didn't follow through with the US Senate.  Her issue was inappropriateness, and being retaliated against.  She's also said she reported it to several in Biden's office, and now she didn't.  Reade also said that AP story is false, on her Twitter, but SHE SAID IT!!!

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … allegation

This apparently I missed weeks ago, but Reade said that all she did was jot down the complaint on a CLIPBOARD.  There's no record of this anywhere, certainly not at the University of Delaware.

After the alleged assault, Reade said she filed a complaint on a clipboard in a Senate personnel office — she could not remember the name — about the alleged harassment, not the assault. She never heard back about it. No record of the report has been located.

The office that fielded harassment complaints at that time was called the Senate Office of Fair Employment Practices. It was replaced in 1995 with the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights. In 1993, the law said that harassment allegations would be heard by an independent board.

Reade suspects that Biden’s Senate office might have gotten alerted to a complaint and that it might be in Biden’s official Senate paper archive at the University of Delaware. Those records are sealed from the public “for two years after Biden retires from public life.”

Again, I do not feel that Ms. Reade's intent is malevolent here, but I just don't know what she WANTS out of this?  Biden is not going to budge, and all she has is her story, that she's told for many years.  With zero backup from anyone in the Biden office or the U.S. Senate, whether it happened or not, how can Joe Biden be found "guilty?"  She canceled the interview "over death threats."  Like plight said, something probably went on, and Tara complained and was retaliated against.  It's very difficult to try to make these accusations against a powerful person, and really, you have to have a concrete case.

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I watched Morning Mika grilling Biden as best as she could, because frankly, there's not a ton she could have asked which he didn't answer.  The University of Delaware records thing is a joke.  Do we expect a university that is currently CLOSED to send staff in just to sift through his records?  It's not a police investigation.  Ms. Reade kept employment records, according to her own statements, which most of us never would bother with.  Yet she did not keep a copy of the COMPLAINT she filed??  Give me a break.  The reason Trump didn't hit Joe on this was because Trump knows this stuff all too well, and likely doesn't believe the claim, and is not going to be dumb enough to pile on when there's a good chance he'll be made the fool.  Yes, I know, this is Trump, but he's not an idiot on these matters.  Biden's best answer was that Delaware would not have personnel records, which is true.  Any employer has to safeguard those, and turning them over to the public would be highly unethical.  As I've said, I do not expect the National Archives to find the complaint, because it didn't exist.  None of this will satisfy the rapid left though, they hate Biden seemingly more than Trump, which makes them completely illogical.

SQ21, I do not believe Reade is politically motivated at all.  She probably intends to vote for Biden anyway, ha ha.  Some people just want to be super victim.  When questioned about her changing story, Reade claims her therapist was told the full story all along, but she will not release her therapist's notes.  Yet demands Biden release everything he's got.  Lastly, she cannot remember a single vivid detail about the incident's date, time, or location.  Victims of assault will remember where it happened, she cannot, just saying it was in a hallway somewhere in the Capitol.  Obviously she'll be interviewed by Fox News on Sunday, but I cannot see how this continues to be reported on?  Either there's a smoking gun or there isn't.

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So the conclusion, or in reality, opinion, that Cathy Young was left with in that article I posted was similar to mine.  In the case of Dr. Christine Ford, it's likely that she was briefly jumped on by a wasted Brett Kavanaugh, but that was the limit of it, and his 4 decade life since has been exemplary, politics aside.  He was likely so hammered he has no memory of the night in question.  Once her primary witness refused to back her in public, that should have been the end of it.  They never should have brought her into testify.  In the case of Ms. Reade, who sadly had to survive domestic abuse, Young's view was that the assault, largely in the open, did not happen.  She felt that since Biden had no pattern of this kind of behavior at the time, in addition to high scrutiny for sexual harassment going around Congress, it simply wasn't likely.  In addition, Reade's own words, her mother's call, etc, seemed to show anger with the Biden staff and not the Senator.  It's possible she created this memory in her mind, as a result of the actual abuse she received, but I'm not a psychiatrist.

I would use the Corey Feldman example of how these things can happen.  Scott Schwartz, fellow child actor from The Toy and A Christmas Story, recently did an interview where he tears into Feldman.  He says these child pedo parties never occurred the way Corey claims, and that Charlie Sheen never molested Corey Haim.  In fact, the one who did was a low-life who Feldman kept in his company for decades despite KNOWING what this guy did to Haim.  Similar to how Feldman defends Michael Jackson.  Anyway, Schwartz went on to say that Sheen stole a porn star away from Feldman, which made him forever irate with him.  At some point, the same low-life who molested Haim sold a story to the tabloids about Sheen, with Feldman backing him up.  It's all a lie, and Haim was dead and couldn't refute it though his family did so.  Schwartz said Corey LOVES playing the victim.

What does that have to do with this?  Only that people make exaggerated and false accusations about famous people all the time.  It gains them fame themselves and definitely attention.  Particularly if it's an event that is so long ago, it's literally impossible to find out the truth.  Supposedly the Biden campaign is rifling through his old Senate documents as we speak, with the far left accusing them of covering up whatever they find.  My guess is they won't find anything, just like the other agencies Reade supposedly reported it to found nothing.  MSNBC covered this last night, which caused many liberals to react angrily against MSNBC!  I say no, just wait, let them all cover it now, and get it over with, because IMO there's no story there.

I would expect VP Biden tomorrow morning to express sympathy for whatever pain Ms. Reade is going through, and who knows, he might even invite her to speak to him.  He might apologize for having potentially said something crass to her back then or the like.  In no way is he going to shockingly admit to it.  I myself am still trying to understand Reade's end game here?  I mean, what does she want from Biden?  An apology?  His dropping out?  Neither of those are going to happen.  Clearly she pissed that horse rescue lady off, and her reaction to her on Twitter was pretty bad.  I go back to the Feldman story, I just think Tara Reade has cultivated this thing where she plays the victim.  She did it to the horse woman, and is doing it again.

PS: Young's last comment was that "Believe the Woman" is simply not reasonable nor sustainable, and throws due process out the window.

PS PS: Donald Trump, of all people, said Biden should respond, and that "I know all about false accusations, it could be false."

TemporalFlux wrote:

Peacock is planning a new Battlestar Galactica for their service, and that’s likely not cheap.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/ba … ease-date/

Well there went the new series budget! Honestly enough with that dumb show!

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

When I sat down to write a spinoff/sequel series to Earth 214 (which I never got passed a half-written pilot and a plan for season 1), one of the ideas I liked was the idea of putting "satellites" in the wormhole to communicate from world to world (with the idea being that wormholes are a river connecting two worlds but that there's a bigger "ocean" that connects them all).

Might be a dumb idea, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work in the continuity of Sliders to allow them to communicate with each other no matter where they are.

Certainly worked for the Kromaggs!

ireactions wrote:

Well, in 2000 over AOL Instant Messenger, I asked Torme: how would he resolve the cliffhanger of "The Seer"? Torme said that he hadn't seen it and would prefer not knowing anything about it because he was sure it would only make him depressed and angry. But that if he had to follow up on it, he would use a story he'd come up with before he quit the show with Season 3. His idea was a Kromagg story that would be "surreal and trippy" where Quinn would wake up to find himself home with time rewound back to the Pilot and only Quinn remembering sliding.

He would encounter doubles of characters he'd met during Seasons 1 - 2 and Logan from Season 3 at which point he'd realize that sliding was real. The situation would be revealed as a Kromagg trick, and Torme said that to address "The Seer" without having to watch it, he'd declare that any episode after "The Guardian" to be part of the Kromagg scenario. Torme explained that "The Guardian" was his favourite episode of the series and the last one he was happy with, calling "Double Cross" and "Dead Man Sliding" out as "very mediocre."

So, that's how he'd answer your poll, but when writing his Post-It of a story idea into a script, I elected to make the cutoff point the Season 2 finale. That way, while the "Slide Effects" script ends with the sliders still lost in the multiverse, the Kromagg tracking device has been destroyed and Logan isn't pursuing them and the Professor isn't dying of a terminal illness. Also, as far as Torme was concerned, "Invasion" happened before "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome" and Arturo had the Kromagg tracking device but was stranded on the Azure Gate Bridge world -- which isn't reflected in the actual airdates as "Invasion" aired after PTTS. My "Slide Effects" script uses the original broadcast order and says that Quinn had the implant, another divergence from Torme's intentions.

I feel like Quinn in that story, somehow I've forgotten all of this!  Leave it to Tracy though to have devised such an esoteric concept.  There's definitely a bit of Fire in the Sky in that story though.  That may have worked 20 years ago when he proposed it, but the actors are far too old now for that.

ireactions wrote:

Later, Torme proposed but did not complete a screenplay for EP.COM. He sent an outline called "The Long Slide Home" which opens with Quinn and the Professor removing Logan St. Clair's whispering gallery system from the geographic spectrum stabilizer and restoring Quinn's original laser gyro system to put their slides back in the San Francisco area, so even in his fanfic, he wanted to integrate "Double Cross" into his selective continuity.

Torme also stated, interestingly, that he intended to gift his script to both Transmodiar AND Temporal Flux and they could feature it on their respective sites as they saw fit. Unfortunately, due to professional obligations, he never finished it.

Also, Torme came up with his Kromagg story that revisits the Pilot before he gave up on Season 3, before John was fired and before Seasons 4 - 5. However, when asked how he would fix his show, his "Invasion" sequel was the story he put forward to roll back the continuity of the series. And when he was asked to where he'd roll it back, he picked "The Guardian."

Now this I sort of remember, and likewise would have been very cool to read.  Similarly, it's probably been too long to use as well.  I'm sure that Jerry probably has never read either concept....

ireactions wrote:

But in terms of the rollback -- Torme told me in 2000 that he wanted to roll the show back to "The Guardian" with his "Slide Effects" script. But when writing it in 2011, I picked "As Time Goes By" because I feel that once SLIDERS left Vancouver, it lost its visual identity. It lost the indie-film look of the show. It lost the washed out, grounded, gray tone of Vancouver as San Francisco. It lost the fiction of being set in San Francisco.

Interesting, didn't know/remember Tracy making that statement.  I'm sure he's including The Guardian because he wrote it, but I'd be fine with that.  As I said, you retain all of his original mysteries by around that point. 

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Oh I completely agree.  My point is that a project like this needs a champion.  Someone has to go into a meeting with Universal and whoever and sell this thing until people give it lots of money.  Something like Ryan Reynolds did with Deadpool or tons of projects that are crowdfunded.  Someone needs to lead those meetings, and so far, no one else is doing that.  And I think if Jerry is going to spend his time championing a Sliders reboot, he's doing it to star in it.  If he's not, I'm assuming he wouldn't champion the project and he'd get whatever Michael Mallory-equivalent role on whatever pilot he can get on Paramount network.

You're right, though, because maybe he champions it and ends up screwed out of it.  Richard Hatch famously spent a ton of time and effort looking to get Battlestar Galactica revived.  He wrote novels and produced trailers to try and sell the project.  And it did generate interest in new Galactica - but not his version.  He ended up settling for a recurring role.

So if that's what happened to Jerry, so be it.

Depends on what medium they're going for.  Peacock service needs content, though one would assume the budget wouldn't be great on there, though Sliders proved over and over again that wasn't a showstopper.  I'm not really sure what Jerry's concept is to say that he might get pushed out.  Terrible example, but look at Saved By the Bell, Mario and Elizabeth are producers and starring, with an all-new teen cast.  Sliders could do the same, especially given that besides Jerry, the other three original stars are somewhat "retired."

Geez, a complete reboot was not one of the choices!!  Ha ha, I posted this poll because I've been rewatching on Comet TV.  At first, I figured everything after Vancouver ought to go.  However, Season 3, granted full of movie rip-offs, was not that bad, prior to The Exodus.  There were good stories, and as I watch now, for the first time in at least a decade, I can better appreciate dialogue, directing, things like that.  The characters remained true to their cores.  The Rickman episodes after The Exodus were utter garbage, with The Other Slide of Darkness being one of the worst.  The Smarter Quinn giving Kromaggs Sliding tech was so unbelievable stupid, I never got over that.  Season 4 and 5 had a lot of good science fiction scripts, but Wade raped, Earthprime conquered, and Quinn being adopted, no, no no!!!  So my pick was The Exodus, which for many fans, was the jump the shark moment.  I can't tell you how many times I read or get told that someone stopped watching after JRD left the show.

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TF, I'm not sure about your "theory" on the escape clause, ha ha, because Ohio finally had their primary, and it was mail in only.  NJ has mailed ballots out without asking, for instance.  I truly don't understand the NY decision, and don't agree with it, especially since it was going to be mail in only.  Very bizarre.  If more states canceled theirs, there would be an uproar.

https://arcdigital.media/a-tale-of-two- … 4504d6228a

ireactions, here's a LONG, and I mean LONG winded article I suggest reading.  It's an opinion piece for sure, but this writer attempts to figure out who has the more plausible assault claim, Reade or Christine Ford.  I was able to get through the whole thing, and ironically, her conclusions are basically in line with my feelings on both women's accusations.

As for "Sleepy Joe," the problem is that when Biden tries to speak on issues he's just not that great with, he fumbles.  It's not dementia, it's called trying to do an oral presentation on a book you were too lazy to read!  He's not Bernie or Warren, they are policy wonks.  But he's also not going to advise people to stick a UV light up their ass either.

Well that was the auction.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sliders-Origin … 3907351346

We've likely gone through this before, but I've come up with 5 critical points in the history of the series from which you might declare, everything after this is just plain trash and won't count.  The assumption being that a project, such as the one Jerry O'Connell and John Rhys-Davies have spoken about, could not possibly be written as a continuation of The Seer, or can it?  For me at least, the primary pieces of continuity over the years, for fans, deals mainly with the cast changes.  Arturo is killed off, but was it the Wrong one?  Wade is captured by Kromaggs, sent to a breeding camp (disgusting), then put in a jar.  Quinn is merged with "Mallory" and never heard from again.  But even he gets this nonsensical backstory of being an foster child from another dimension.  That story creates Colin Mallory, who eventually gets turned into atoms.  Along the way, we pick up Maggie, Mallory, and Diana Davis, do you wish to keep them around?  Last but not least, there are story lines that either went unresolved, such as Logan St. Clare, or were distorting horribly by later writers, such as "smarter Quinn" giving sliding to Kromaggs or the Kromaggs themselves becoming a race of lame Nazi's from the Planet of the Apes.  So I found the moments in time where you could "return to," in a sense, or maybe you scrap it all and write a new series that reintroduces Quinn, Arturo, Rembrandt, etc.

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ireactions wrote:

Tara Reade's former neighbour and a co-worker have come forward and said that Reade told them her story of Biden assaulting her in the 90s:

https://www.businessinsider.com/former- … 020-4?op=1

Hmmm. I think I'll go back to the starting point of #BelieveWomen and then go from from there. I'll be back.

Well the neighbor is still voting for Biden, so go figure.  Idk what else to say, Biden is never going to admit anything.

TemporalFlux wrote:

I had wondered what label they would give an economic downturn following the Coronavirus shut down.  I bet this one will stick - “The Great Repression” (since we technically did it on purpose):

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-g … 2020-04-27

It's already BAD.  They mention inflation, well have they been in a supermarket?  The prices are obscene!

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https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/b … 76cac68a2b

So, after a nasty back and forth on Twitter between Tara Reade (now McCable), writer Joan Walsh, and Lynn Hummer, the founder of a California horse rescue, The Medium dug into it.  Mrs. Hummer has extensive evidence to back up her claims that "Tara Reade stole from me. She lied to me. She stole from my organization. She manipulated me and she duped me. I want that to be shared because it’s important information. And I have documentation, images and emails to prove it."

The accusation here is that Tara was deceitful in actions pertaining to his horse rescue.  Her reaction was almost Trump-like, threatening to sue Hummer as well as Joan Walsh.  I hate to just dismiss someone based on what they have done recently, but the reality is she never spoke ill about Joe Biden for 2.5 decades.  Quite the opposite, she bragged about working for him.  All we have is her accusation, what vague details her brother and another friend remember, and the mother supposedly phoning into Larry King.  Reade claimed to have reported the harassment to 4 different agencies at the time, but none of them have a record of it.  No one in Biden's office backs her story up. 

Again, is it not possible that she was fired, became angry about that, and told her mother a story to cover for being canned?  Perhaps not, but even the mother's questioning on CNN was strange.  She cited it as a "problem," but did not seem to come close to intimating an assault occurred that might require police involvement.  The mother asks Larry, "My daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator, and could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him."  That makes no sense.  You're only recourse is the press?  But you have respect for him, AFTER he allegedly assaults you? 

It brings me back to the Kavanaugh/Ford allegations.  That was even longer back in time, and while it's probable that Kavanaugh went a bit too far while drunk, Dr. Ford simply couldn't recall details, and even the "assault" itself really only came to light for her through hypnosis, which is about as scientific as having your palm read.  At the same time, these incidents are traumatizing, and the victims often do not want to bring them to light, simply because they often wish to forget them.  Perahps Ms. Reade has a Stockholm Syndrome at work, but I mean, she only worked for Biden for a few months, yet as I said, continued to praise him, and even now doesn't seem to particularly wish to vilify him.  It's just very strange, but like Dr. Ford, the special interests get their claws in, and it's simply 2,000 times worse for the alleged victim.

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Well even with the mother's call, I'm not sure if that changes much.  Biden denies it, Reade doesn't, it's a stalemate.  Trump has 25 women accusing him of harassment.  Trump Jr., a human trash can, has said women who don't wish to be harassed ought to become kindergarten teachers, and that he's more concerned about his sons being falsely charged than his daughters being assaulted.  Lunatic. 

In other news, appears Kim Jong-Un is dead or at least a vegetable.

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Well at the same time, Sarah Michelle Gellar premiered as Buffy Summers and largely destroyed most female lead stereotypes.  The staff Sliders had for season 3 were atrocious, but that was Fox.