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Oh geez, I'm so sorry.  I thought you'd finished the season and dropped two spoilers on you sad

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I thought it was really cool to see Barry in the Reverse Flash suit.  I thought the Flash suit looked really weird on Tom Cavanaugh, but not as weird as it looked on Stephen Amell.

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Yeah, I don't like the Titans Batman.  I also thought it was weird that Dick didn't consider being Batman.  It was also weird that he abandoned the Batcave and Wayne Manor so easily.

Did you understand how the police department started working for Scarecrow?  I know Gordon got arrested, but then all of the sudden, the cops were all evil.  I don't remember how that was part of the plan.  I read recaps and still couldn't figure out what I missed.

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ireactions wrote:

Sorry your zombie show is in that strange state of being neither living or dead in holding your interest, becoming something you tolerate without any consistent enjoyment.

That's the thing.  Did I ever like it?  Why did I just finish the second *spinoff* of a show that maybe I never liked?  I watched the first season of the Walking Dead when I was traveling for work and had nothing better to do.  And I guess I never stopped.

To be fair, I almost never "watch" it.  I just have it on for it's running time once a week.  I often have to read a recap of what I just watched and often will think "huh, I don't know that character.  I wonder if they're a guest character or if they've been on the show 3 seasons."

ireactions wrote:

I quit LOST which I fear will offend you. It wasn't on purpose; I got to Season 4 (I think) and then got busy and then it had been too long to resume where I'd left off, but I didn't have the time or inclination to start over again.

Ha.  I think LOST is the best show of all time, and I've watched it several times.  But I get it.  Lindelof has admitted that they had to spin their wheels in season 3 because the show was too popular to "wrap up."  I think there's still intrigue in season 3, and I didn't mind the infamous "how Jack got his tattoos" story.  I didn't even mind the inclusion of Nikki and Paolo as "background castaways" that got promoted to the A-Team.

But by season 4, they'd made an agreement with ABC for less episodes (so less filler) and a definitive end date.  And after that, the show was a lot stronger.  I still like the finale a lot, although I understand why people wouldn't like it.  Endings are hard.

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And I'm getting my booster December 26!

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The Walking Dead - the shows I watch for....some reason?

I don't know if I've loved the Walking Dead even going back to season 2.  And yet I've watched every season.

When they announced a spinoff, I rolled my eyes.  But then the promos came out, and it promised to show the beginning of the outbreak (when Walking Dead skipped it entirely).  That's the part of the zombie apocalypse that I'm most interested in.  How does society fall like that?  Walking Dead got repetitive because it's just our band of survivors going from fragile rural encampment to fragile rural encampment.  This is going to take place in LA!

So I watched.  And a couple episodes in, they had a time jump and we'd skipped through the parts that I thought would be more interesting.  Before too long, they were going from fragile rural encampment to fragile rural encampment.  And while the show got much better when they killed off most of the season one cast and brought in new characters (including Walking Dead alum Morgan Jones), it's....fine?  I'm still watching.

Then they announced *another* spinoff about kids that were raised during the apocalypse.  I didn't really care about that, but they announced that it would be 1) revolving around the mysterious Civic Republic that would certainly tie in with the main shows and 2) it would be a limited series - 2 seasons, 20 total episodes.  So fine.  I watched.  And it was...fine?  I watched all 20.

But there's a glimmer of hope.  At the end of the final episode of World Beyond, they had an epilogue.  I won't spoil it here, but it teased some cool stuff that we haven't seen before and maybe some answers about what happened in the first place.

Damn it.

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I thought the same thing, but then the "wedding?" scene had everyone together.  So maybe they could do it?  Or maybe they had to wait so they filmed some of the minor stuff first?  I don't know.

I also feel like something as big as "taking away Flash's powers" should've been a bigger group, right?  If Barry has insisted that he's a danger...wouldn't it be good to have backup?  I'm talking more in-universe than "it's a TV show, they can't have everyone back" kind of way.  It also seems a bit odd because...how would the Injustice Protocol even work if Barry wasn't 100% cooperative?  Barry did most of the work and then Black Lightning shot him - and it didn't even work.  Was there someone designated to do the science stuff if Barry wasn't there?  And again...it didn't work.

And as far as set dressing, I wish they'd done more to make the Justice League headquarters not look like a mostly empty warehouse.  It just isn't a great looking set, and it should be.

I do feel like episode 3 was a filler episode.  I'm intrigued by the future stuff, and we haven't seen most of the villains show up yet (and half the heroes have barely said anything or said nothing).  I also wonder if we'll get some sort of scene with Ryan and Barry since....I don't think there's any indication that they know each other.  She would obviously know him, but he shouldn't have any idea who she is.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

Thank you, ireactions! I did not know that with my limited membership here. I was just playing it safe on my end.

My apologies, Slider_Quinn21!

Appreciate that!

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ireactions wrote:

Well, I think Slider_Quinn21 is just waiting until six months after his second dose. If an improved vaccine is announced and scheduled for six months and 2.23 weeks after his second dose (my personal tipping point), that might (might!) make sense. SQ21 got his second dose and he is not an anti-vaxxer; if he's holding out, it's because he's looking to get maximum shielding from his shot. I am not a doctor; I cannot evaluate that strategy except to say it's not from a place of mistrust for vaccines.

This is 100% correct.

I'm eligible in January so that's when I was going to get the booster.  My mom just got it and hoping my in-laws get it soon.  I just read an article like this (but not this) recently https://www.newsweek.com/pfizer-ceo-say … ad-1654037 where they said they could make a new variant-resistant version of the vaccine (in less than 100 days) so I'm thinking about it like getting a new phone - do I get the one that's available for Christmas or wait until January for the new version.

And my wife and I are essentially locked down.  We work from home, we get our groceries via contactless pickup (and we still wipe down), we don't eat out in restaurants, we don't hang out with friends, and the only people we see are our parents (who are double or triple vaxxed and are all retired).  I interact with people very rarely, and when I do, I'm wearing my fancy Korean mask that ireactions recommended smile

I am still monitoring a 12/20 11am Spider-Man No Way Home showing.  No tickets sold yet big_smile

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ireactions wrote:

There's also the fact that across the first two seasons of BATWOMAN, Wayne Enterprises *never* seemed like an actual business and Wayne Tower *never* came off as a workplace of any kind. I was shocked to see Tom Lenk guest-starring as the Wayne Enterprises crisis communications worker. I had been under the impression that Wayne Enterprises was just a holding company for various patents and businesses at this point that had outsourced all its work to smaller firms since Bruce had left Gotham in a fit of something or other. I didn't think anyone did any actual work there and figured that while Kate had access to the executive floors of Wayne Tower, the rest of it had probably been rented out as office space to other businesses.

I could be wrong, but wasn't it stated explicitly that Wayne Tower was abandoned, either in the crossover that introduced Batwoman or the pilot?  I feel like the introduction to Luke was him dealing with homeless people living in the tower?

And you're right about the way the Arrowverse treats jobs.  All the Arrowverse major players all live like they're upper class but rarely do any actual work.  Oliver was unemployed for most of the show but lives in a gigantic loft.  Barry was a cop and Iris essentially had a blog, and they had a huge luxury apartment.  The only Arrowverse characters I can think of as actually struggling were Rene and Roy.

And while I do think some of it is political, anti-corporation stuff, I once read an article about how most movies/TV shows struggle with real-life jobs because writers haven't really had real-life jobs.  Most of the jobs that people have are the ones that feel the most like writing.  Like architect - where you spend a lot of time coming up with a pitch, make your pitch, and then you get to build this super big thing at the end.  It's writing a script, pitching it, and then producing it.

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Earth 214

http://slidersweb.net/otherworlds/214/index.htm

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Yeah, I just saw that.  I'm having fun with Batwoman season 3, although the corporate stuff is really dumb to me.  I'm sure there are mid-20s CEOs of major tech companies, but I think the fact that Ryan or Kate or Marquis are CEO of Wayne Enterprises would be impossible.  Especially since we never saw Ryan or Kate do any work as CEO - Ryan would've been CEO for months without even knowing it.

I know TV likes to think that these big-salaried CEOs don't really do anything, but having an absentee CEO would destroy most companies.  Their work probably isn't worth what they're paid, but they're paid a lot of money for reasons.  They're also usually the chairman of the board of directors, and I'm sure they'd have something to say about hiring an ex-con with no experience in business as a CEO.  Even if there was a clause that gave Bruce Wayne that kind of authority in absentia, and even if Ryan/Kate were turning down a salary, I don't think it would fly.

I think if they'd made Luke the CEO, that might work.  But even then, I think he's too young and not present enough for that.  I think it's just another example of TV writers having no idea how the real world works smile

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And I agree about Batman being too big for Batwoman.  I think even if he came back for a brief crossover only to go back in the shadows, it would be too much.  Whenever something big came up, we'd expect Batman to show back up.  I'll admit I've thought that about Supergirl a lot - when there's an extinction level event, shouldn't Superman at least show up as backup?

Now to be fair, since Ryan took over for Kate, the references and connections to Bruce have pretty much stopped.  The connections to *Batman* are bigger than ever, but I don't know if Bruce showing up makes a ton of narrative sense anymore.

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With the new variant, I'm considering waiting until the new version of the vaccine comes out (Pfizer said they could make one in a matter of a couple of months) instead of the booster.  I was planning on waiting until January either way.

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ireactions wrote:

At this point, BATWOMAN has had a CRISIS, multiple attacks on Gotham City, a mass escape from Arkham and the former Crows turning on the city. If Bruce Wayne didn't come back to help with any of those situations, it's not because he didn't care, it's not because he was embittered -- it's because he couldn't come back, he couldn't help. Whatever reason for Bruce's absence has to cover BATWOMAN not having the license to use the character, only a special dispensation for imposters and dream sequences.

This has bothered me since Batwoman started, as you know, but if I were running the show, I would've gotten a meeting with the highest-up person at DC I could get a meeting with and I'd ask for a direct answer - will I ever get to use Bruce Wayne as Batman on my show?  If the answer is no, I kill off Batman.  Having his ghost around is too much.  I'd also have his villains die too.  Maybe a Superman-level villain wiped everyone out in some sort of battle royale and then Superman fixed it.  Or Kara.  Whoever.

Because having Batman just out there not doing anything is too big of a shadow.  I also wouldn't have set the show in Gotham but that's a different argument.

If there's a chance, I'm fine with running out the clock until they let Batman be on the show.  Putting Superman on Supergirl didn't hurt Supergirl, and I'm sure having occasional Batman visits would be fine for Batwoman.

I also think it's dumb that DC has three Batmen currently (Pattinson, Affleck, and Keaton) but thinks that one on TV would confuse people.

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I think Armageddon has been really fun.

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Oh I totally agree.  I just don't know if that makes for a compelling main character, which is why I think they focused on the other characters a bit more.

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I finally saw Shang Chi.  Really fun, and I hope he appears in a bunch of movies.  The post-credits was intriguing, and I loved it.

Still planning on seeing Spider-Man in the second week it's out.  I don't know when I'll see Eternals - I guess in February or whenever it hits Disney+

Really looking forward to Hawkeye.  I've been reading the Fraction Hawkeye series that inspired it.  The art is a little weird for my tastes, but I really liked the story so far.

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Do we think Arrowverse Bruce is incapacitated/captured somehow, or is he watching all of this happen from the sidelines like Luke from The Last Jedi?  I'm curious as to what people think.

Happy to!  Please note that I wrote these as a teenager.  I stand by every idea in this.  The writing might not have aged well hahah

http://slidersweb.net/otherworlds/214/index.htm

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Sorry if that was a spoiler.

He seems like a genuinely good guy, both on the show and in real life.  I was just thinking...there isn't really an episode of any of the shows that Ray has been on where he's had a "dark arc" is there?  It was a thousand years ago, but when he was originally on Arrow, I think he was a rival to Oliver but never really a villain.  And once he got to Legends, he was always just really nice, upbeat, and dependable.  That's pretty cool.

I wonder what would've happened in an alternate world where the CW ordered a "The Atom" show instead of Legends of Tomorrow (and I'm sorry that I keep writing out Legends out of existence when it's easily the most consistently good Arrowverse show going).  I think it would've been interesting to have Ray as the lead in a show and to see what they'd do with him.  What kind of team he'd put together, etc. 

I haven't thought about it much, but I'm now picturing a "Dick Grayson and Damien Wayne Batman and Robin" vibe.  Ray meets an angry orphaned young man who has a knack for science, and Ray has to soften his rough edges.

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I thought part one of the Armageddon 5-part premiere was really fun.  And Ray Palmer's appearance was really fun and exactly the kind of thing I love about the shared Arrowverse.

ireactions wrote:

Yes, I've seen your fanfic all over FanFiction.net. It's so insulting, no one ever steals mine.

As long as they kept my crossover with Seven Days, then they're good haha

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Thank you!  That's super helpful!

My wife and I have a similar philosophy.  We are willing to pay a little bit more for something that will last longer.  We both drive 2010/2011 cars still, and our current laptops are at least 5-6 years old so we'd like something that won't be like a disposable computer.  We take care of the things that last long.

ireactions wrote:

What's your budget?

The ones you listed were the right range.  Do you have a preferred brand or something you've had success with?

ireactions wrote:

Storage: The SSD should have at least 128GB. That's not a lot for all your family photos, but it's enough to store and run Windows programs and you can store personal files on an external drive (which can be spinning). Make sure it can run Windows 11 which is coming soon.

The photos thing was a recent request she added, and it's not something I'm familiar with (I'm a computer dummy and happy to admit that). I have years worth of photos and videos on my phone and I think I have 63 GB of photos (I think, I'm a dummy).  So what would be "a lot" for all our family photos?  My phone is 256 GB, so is that enough?

Or is an external drive the better route?

ireactions wrote:

My greatest ambition for SLIDERS is to meet Slider_Quinn21 and buy him a sumptuous meal for every time someone has stolen his fanfic and put their own name on it. He has earned it.

Ha, has anyone actually done that?

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Can y'all recommend me a laptop for my wife and I?  It doesn't need to be anything fancy - all we'll use it for is standard web browsing, storing family photos, and using Microsoft Office.  No gaming, no streaming, nothing else.

My wife would prefer it not be a Mac, mostly because it's harder to use Excel on a Mac with the keyboard shortcuts being different.

I know nothing of computers - both our laptops are both old, and we just want a sensible replacement?  Something that will do what we need and not need to be replaced every couple years (mostly, for me at least, because I feel like it's a pain in the ass to move things over).

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ireactions wrote:

I am deeply invested in whether or not Slider_Quinn21 likes the new DEXTER.

(Never seen a single episode of it myself.)

Unfortunately, I don't have Showtime so I haven't seen an episode of it.  I didn't read good things about it, but I'll hopefully find a way to watch it at some point.

I still think Dexter, while having an obvious and painful dip in quality, is still unfairly beaten up in pop culture.  Same with Game of Thrones.  Were the final seasons as good as the first?  No, obviously not.  But they were still watchable, as evidence by the fact that people continued to watch them.  I also struggle with how people enjoy the ending of The Shield, where it's protagonist is punished by a forced exile from the people and places that he ended up loving but don't enjoy the same ending for Dexter.  It's the same ending.

Michael C. Hall is a great actor and the character of Dexter is fun.  The character grew and developed.  The plotlines were dumb, but they were dumb because they peaked in Season 4 and never recovered.  They also peaked because they were one of the big casualties of online fan communities crowd-sourcing plot twists.

I still think Dexter is one of the more entertaining shows of the last 20 years, and it's a shame that it's become such a joke in pop culture.  Seasons 1-4 (with season 3 being the weak link) are some of the best TV that you can find.

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I liked your analysis of Supergirl, and I really don't have anything to add.

I feel like the series struggled on what to do with Kara a lot, though.  We watched her as the main character for six years, and what did we really learn about her?  She's really nice?  Really loyal?  Really hopeful?

She likes karaoke?  And musicals?  And singing?  She's supposedly really good at journalism, but she doesn't seem all that interested in doing it most of the time and doesn't seem all that upset to be quitting it.  I think for the most part, the writers had more interest in writing about Alex and Nia than writing about Supergirl, and she just became a Deus Ex Machina in her own show.  And, honestly, I think the same can be said about J'onn, who hasn't really had any storylines since his father's arc ended.  I almost feel like Smallville's J'onn was more fleshed out.  And they struggled on what to do with Brainy too.

I think, as you said, Supergirl was a "social justice show" - and I think that sometimes meant having the characters be conduits for telling social justice stories and less about the characters being real people.  Alex's understanding about her sexuality and having a healthy relationship with Kelly.  Nia's struggles with her sense of identity and the world's acceptance of her as who she is.  And I think having a beautiful, heterosexual white woman at the center of the show wasn't all that interesting to the writers because there weren't that many stories to tell about her that they'd care about.    So she often took a back seat.

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I ended up spoiling more than I thought so I'll put a tag up just in case:

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Yeah, I think it's totally fine that Kara didn't have any romantic subplot for most of the last few seasons, and I think it's fine that they didn't force something with Mon-El after he was gone for so long.  I think sometimes these shows focus too much on romantic subplots, and people don't have to be defined by their relationships.

I just think that a lot of her decision to reveal herself wasn't really built up.  It kinda felt like Seven and Chakotay - this is fine and maybe makes sense but when did this happen?  And in a season that started with Kara dealing with PTSD, having that wrapped up pretty quickly, and then having Kara face off in these "gauntlets", the idea that they never really set up "I'm going to reveal myself to the world" is a bit weird.  They had time and room for a plot like that.  I just felt like the last season was clunky, and Kara's development kinda suffered.

I also thought for a little bit that Mehcad Brooks didn't come back.  When Guardian showed up fully suited with an augmented voice, I wondered if that was going to be a workaround, but I was genuinely glad to see him.  And Winn.  And it was fun to see the "original superfriends" get a scene together because they've really come a long way.  I loved the scene with them and Barry when they learned about the multiverse.

I'm sad about the fact that, with no pandemic, we probably would've had more cameos.  Maybe a Kate Kane (either version I guess), probably a Clark and/or Lois, maybe some/all of the Justice League.  I know that they have to be able to deal with their own problems, but one of my favorite moments in Arrowverse history is when Oliver and Firestorm showed up to fight the Reverse Flash.  Why have a combined universe if they can't rely on each other for threats that are otherworldly?

But it was good and I'll miss Supergirl.

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I thought the Supergirl finale was....fine?

I thought all the returning faces were nice and showed some of growth of the show.  I also think any season 7 they would've done would've been much better than many of the last few seasons. 

I was also wondering about Batman in the Arrowverse.  The movies are going to have at least three Batmen (Affleck, Pattinson, and Keaton), so why can't there be another Batman on TV?  They've already connected the DCEU to the Arrowverse and cast Batman, so I don't know why they couldn't do it.  It would need to be its own thing, but I think a Batman show alongside Superman & Lois could rejuvenate the Arrowverse.  If they're going to do it, now's the time.

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I've been reading a ton of Star Wars comics recently.  I think they're a lot of fun, and I've enjoyed essentially every one that I've read.

The problem is that I struggle with these stories as anything other than non-canon (ireactions shudders....this is one of those conversations).  But it's just hard to imagine that, in between hiding out from the Empire, all these characters had these extraordinary side missions and met all these extraordinary characters.  There's all those scenes with Anakin and Obi-Wan in the prequels where they reference these fun adventures that we never got to see.  But in the original trilogy, I don't get the sense that they've had countless adventures.  It feels like what we saw is what we got.

But the idea that Leia had this secret mission to rescue Alderaanians and Luke was tracking down Jedi artifacts just doesn't feel genuine to me. I do like the Darth Vader stuff because it does feel like his story is incomplete.  And stories like Doctor Aphra make sense, although she also crosses over with Luke and Leia a lot.

It also made me think about how little I care about the sequel trilogy gap.  I've been thinking about what I'd do differently, but the gap between Episode III and Episode IV seems important because so many things changed.  The Empire took over, the Jedi are now gone, and the galaxy feels different.  Between Episode VI and Episode VII....the universe feels the same.  So anything that happened doesn't really matter, in my head.  I'm sure there are fun stories they could tell, but none of it really mattered.  And it makes it feel like the original trilogy didn't matter.  And Luke in Episode VIII makes so much sense.

Have y'all read much of the post-Disney Marvel comics?  I'm going to read all the First Run ones that I can, and I'll probably wait to read the Second Run ones.

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Yeah, I think it might make some sense, but I think the Alex and Kelly plot was both introduced and strongly leaned into to try and appeal to the LGBT angle.

It's hard to accuse Supergirl of being anything other than inclusive.  I'm sure there are more inclusive shows on TV, but it's pretty inclusive.

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ireactions wrote:

I feel like COVID and Melissa Benoist's unavailability and this being the final season has hit the writing staff hard and they didn't cope well with a difficult situation.

I think that's fair.  But at the same time, outside of those episodes, what is Kara's overall arc?  What does she learn?  What does she struggle with?  What does she want in life?  I feel like I could answer those questions better with most of the characters on the show before I could with Kara.  She does seem like she's just kinda there at times. 

Have we had any scenes with Kara in her apartment?  I feel like we're at Kelly and Alex's apartment a lot these days.  She got engaged and adopted a kid and went through some major character changes.  Kara hasn't done much of that.  And it doesn't have to all be about love interests and moving on in life.  Kara doesn't need a boyfriend to experience growth, but she does need something.  All she's done in the last couple episodes is switch to pants.

I think CW fans are a bit toxic, and I think a lot of their outrage has to do with (POTENTIAL SPOILER FROM THE SERIES FINALE) but when I think about it, Kara doesn't seem like the main character in Supergirl.

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Hahaha it's all good.

I thought the Legends 100th episode was a lot of fun.

The Supergirl season is getting a lot of flack online because Kara's been sidelined.  I don't usually look into this stuff or care, but I clicked on some tweets.  I do think that Kara hasn't had a ton to do in the last few seasons.  No real love interest (I don't know the purpose of William), no real arc.  She lives through the enjoyment of others.  So I think that's true.  There was also a complaint that Kara is sidelined so that the men on the show get storylines.  I didn't understand that at all.  J'onn hasn't had a real storyline this year (not since his father's arc ended - not much with M'gann recently).  Brainy has some stuff with Nia, but he hasn't had an arc since he betrayed the group.  I agree that William is a fairly useless character, but he's barely a character.

So I don't get that.  I feel like Alex, Kelly, and Nia are the main characters on the show sometimes.

Stargirl has been good.  I don't think you can really notice the move from DC Universe to CW.  I like it, but I don't have much to say.

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I do miss the crossovers.  Not just the main one, but I miss the minor ones too.  Hopefully, post-pandemic, they can do minor ones.  It was fun when Felicity would show up on Flash or Cisco would show up on Arrow.  I think it'd be fun to have more stuff like that.  How would Luke react to working with Superman or Flash?  What would Jonathan and Jordan think about being on the Waverider?  I think putting Superman on Batwoman would be a little problematic, but I'd be interested in hearing about Clark's views on Bruce.

I don't know if they've moved beyond that stuff, but I currently find the Arrowverse universe more interesting than any individual show.  I'm looking forward to the Flash premiere crossover event.

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I don't know if linking Batwoman even more to Batman is the smartest idea.  I get that it probably brings viewers, but I think it brings up so many more questions.  Are most of Batman's rogues gallery dead?  Did Batman kill them?  Is that why he left?  And, again, what's Bruce doing?  This is his mess.  It made some sense when his cousin was cleaning it up, but Bruce has no connection to Ryan.

Also, I get that putting Ryan as "Acting CEO" of Wayne makes some narrative sense, but I don't understand how that would even be allowed.  I assumed Wayne was either completely sold off or being run by someone else.  Ryan doesn't even have on paper experience, and I don't know if having her pretend to be a CEO even makes sense as a plan.

I do think all the multiverse stuff - from SpiderVerse to Flashpoint to What If to Phase 4 of Marvel will make it easier to bring Sliders back.  Sliders is probably the most well known multiverse property that exists, and its very nature makes it very easy to bring back.

I still wonder if Jerry's work on Lower Decks makes an animated series the easiest way to do it.  Maybe something like what Universal did with Camp Cretaceous on Netflix.  It's certainly the easiest if they want the original cast.  Otherwise, I think Jerry with a new group of younger Sliders (with Quinn as the mentor character) probably makes the most sense.  If it gets done in 2025, there will be some appropriateness to that since Jerry would be the same age JRD was when Sliders premiered.

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I'd love to see how many zeroes are on that check.  I'm sure she cleaned up.

And it's probably safe to assume Natasha ain't coming back

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I think it was maybe shown that way in New York?  So that's possible.  At least with Endgame, they were all vaporized.

Is it a lack of military personnel?  From some lazy research, the military is about 20% women.  It'd be higher in some countries and much lower in others.  I'm assuming martial law could keep order, but maybe there isn't enough military to keep order?

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I've been watching Y: The Last Man on Hulu, and I'm having trouble understanding the state of the world.  I get that the message of the show, as specifically noted by the comic, is that men still control several sectors so that, if they all died, would leave a shortage of qualified (and also inexperienced) women to handle things.  I know they've talked about power grid failures and riots and all that.

But why are the cities empty?  Why are blocks full of suburban houses completely abandoned?  Boston has 675,000, 52% of which are women.  And the only ones that stayed in the city are rioters and military?  They moved 300,000 women into camps?  Wouldn't it be easier and safer to have people remain in their homes instead of transporting them and having them live in, what, tents somewhere?

Endgame had a similar premise - half of a population disappears.  And while I'm sure there was chaos and rioting and power failures, it seems like society continued.  The Leftovers worked on a similar premise, although on a much smaller scale.  I'm sure there would be confusion and fear and violence, but I don't feel like the world would look like the zombie apocalypse.  Probably martial law and food shortages and power outages, but I figure it'd look more like a post-hurricane city than the Walking Dead.

Am I crazy here?

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ireactions wrote:

I could be WRONG about this, but I seriously doubt that a multinational corporation would ever sell one of its own franchises outside of one corporation purchasing another the way Disney bought Marvel and then bought Lucasfilm and then bought FOX and will conceivably someday buy Sony.

Just by owning SLIDERS, NBCUniversal can claim that the franchise is worth 500,000 - 1.5 million and add that to their 'value' should they someday wish to put their corporation up for sale to another corporation. I can't see them selling it piecemeal.

I can see NBCUniversal licensing SLIDERS the way FOX licensed THE X-FILES to the company IDW which enabled IDW to produce a highly successful comic book series (THE X-FILES: SEASON 10, THE X-FILES: SEASON 11, MILLLENNIUM, THE X-FILES: YEAR ZERO, THE X-FILES: ORIGINS) as well as an anthology series and a board game, all of which was tremendously profitable until Chris Carter was able to bring a TV version of Seasons 10 - 11 to broadcast which was so poorly received that it killed the entire IDW tie-in line and the TV show as well.

But, I mean, I could be wrong. :-)

I doubt you're wrong.  And Sliders might have more value.  But pick a show that will never come back or one that maybe never made it to the air.  Would Universal rather have a line item that's worth $500,000 or would they rather have $500,000?

I imagine if a fanbase actually raised $500,000, Universal would refuse to sell and would instead just make whatever the fans wanted them to make.  So instead of selling the rights to Heat Vision and Jack, they'd just make something with the Heat Vision and Jack rights.  Everyone wins.

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So we had the end of the Diggle arc across the shows.  Spoilers for all those episodes:

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So....what was that.  I get that David Ramsey was available, and it was easy to get a deal to get him on board.  But his character is essentially in the same place it was when Arrow ended.  Or maybe even a bit less clear. 

One episode was just one of Diggle's relatives so that one doesn't really count.  But the other episodes didn't accomplish much.  They established that Diggle is having headaches - I guess turning down the ring gave him headaches.  So he bounces from hero's city to hero's city trying to figure out these headaches and never did.  The Batwoman episode seemed like an intro.  The Flash episode moved the plot along a little but seemed more like a tease of things to come.  The Superman and Lois one was nothing.  I had hopes that, since Superman probably knows at least one Green Lantern, that might be where he talks about it.  And the budget is higher so they could maybe afford to do some Green Lantern CG.

And when nothing happened, I thought maybe they were saving it for Supergirl.  They have a) a bunch of characters that can fly and b) a bunch of characters that would probably know of the Green Lanterns.

And although we got Diggle explaining that he turned it down because he didn't want to leave his family, it ends with him deciding to do it?  All without really discussing it with anyone?

Maybe they aren't even allowed to say Green Lantern.  And maybe they're hoping that Diggle can appear on the Green Lantern show or something.  But, man, this was something I was excited about and I don't think they did much with it.  He wasn't bad, but I was just thinking they might spend more time with Diggle and moving his plot along.

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Tucker wrote:

At some point, everything is questioned for a revival. Years ago, there were talks to bring back The Fresh Prince of Bell-Air, a sitcom from the 90s, but Will Smith rightfully said "yeah when hell freezes over."

It all depends on whether a story can be told, if the creators involved would like to do it and if there is room for it in the market place.

Time travel stories have been told from the dawn of time, so no doubt there's room for a Quantum Leap revival. That is if the actors and creators are interested in making one. A story can definitly be told as well as Sam Beckett never made it home at the end and is still out there leaping. Can we get them to cross over with the inevitibal Sliders reboot? Probably not, but hey, worth a shot lol.

I still think Universal just doesn't see any value in the Sliders brand.  I think Quantum Leap's name has value.  The Fresh Prince's name has value.  I don't think most people remember Sliders. 

With a lot of "original ideas", they try and slap an existing property's name on it and call it a sequel/remake/etc.  It happened twice with Cloverfield (almost three times).  It's an original story about a woman being held hostage during what she's been told is an alien invasion.  It could've been released as 10 Butterfly Lane and been well received and maybe a minor hit.  They throw Cloverfield into the name with almost no connection to the first movie, and it now has name recognition.  You take a story about cyberterrorists attacking the country, throw John McClane in it, and it's a Die Hard sequel with name recognition.

If someone brought a story to Universal about a group of people who stumble on interdimensional travel, I don't know if they'd see enough value in the Sliders name to do the same thing.  There certainly hasn't been enough serious interest to get a Sliders project moving even though Jerry O'Connell seems game for it.

I'm not saying it won't happen.  I just don't think Universal values it that much.

But here's a question.  I wonder if a studio would ever sell the rights to a franchise to a group of fans that crowdsource it.  I know it would be super expensive to purchase the rights to something relevant, but it fans and cast/crew/creators wanted to reboot/sequel a TV show (let's say JOHN DOE) and fans were willing to put the money up, would a studio sell the rights so a project can move forward?

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I would absolutely wear my Kleannara mask and stay away from anyone.  I'll sit in the far corner if I have to smile

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Yeah I think I'd only go midday on a weekday with a mask on.  Even for Spider-Man, I'm sure I can find a showing with only a couple of people 6+ feet away.  I figure that would be fairly safe.  I had in-person jury duty over the summer, and I was able to get by with those rules.

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This can't help their case in the Scarlett Johansson case, but I'm assuming they'll make enough money where that won't matter.

I'm still not cool going to the theaters so I guess I'll be waiting.  I might risk it for Spider-Man: No Way Home because I can't imagine I'll make it 45 days without spoilers.  I'll have to just go on a weekday at noon or something.

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Switch was supposed to be female in the Matrix and male outside of it (or vice versa).  It's why they're called "Switch" but it was either dropped for being confusing or being controversial.

I would expect something like that to happen in the new movie.

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I have a strange relationship with the Matrix.  I didn't see the movie in theaters (I don't know if it was because it wasn't a big deal or because I wasn't 17 when it came out), but it was a pretty cool movie after I finally saw it.  I was in college when the sequels came out, and I was about as excited for Reloaded as I've ever been for any movie.  I remember watching it and then after I was done seeing it (at a midnight showing), I was talking about the movie with my friends and realized that none of us seemed to love it.  We were excited in the moment but when breaking it down, we didn't seem to love it as much as we felt when the movie was showing.

Revolutions was fine, but my excitement had worn off and the movie wasn't good enough to salvage the experience.

I think the Matrix sequels suffer from an expectation gap.  I think people expected, based on the end of the first movie, the movie to go in a direction and wrote a sequel in their heads.  I do this a lot.  And when the movie ended up going in its own, unique direction, people were disappointed.  I think, on the whole, the movies are good.  I think they're a bit too philosophical and spiritual than most would've liked, and there wasn't any way the sequels could've been as innovative as the original.

I liked Animatrix, and I had a ton of fun with Enter the Matrix.  I think I would've liked the Matrix Online if I had any idea how to join such a thing.

The new movie will hopefully be a way for Lana Wachowski to tell a better story but work in the themes she really cares about.  There's a lot of opportunity to tell trans stories in the Matrix universe, and I think that's something that she might lean into with this movie.

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Just a guess but I wonder if Neo and Trinity have aged because they died, and Morpheus is younger because he didn't?  So maybe the Matrix they're in is some sort of "afterlife" program, and Neo and Trinity died, they're older.  Morpheus died sometime later so he's younger?  I don't know if you'd join at a certain age or if you'd be completely reborn, but I guess the timeline doesn't really matter in this universe.

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I really enjoyed the new season of Legends, even though it keeps feeling less and less a part of the arrowverse.  We're starting to run out of characters that have ever appeared on any of the other shows, right?  With the Legends skipping crossovers and their characters usually only appearing in their own episode when they do, is Sara (now that John and Mick are gone) the only one who's ever actually appeared on an actual episode outside of any of the other Arrowverse shows?  Nate is a maybe, but I could see him only appearing in the Legends episode of any crossover.

Not that it's a big deal. The show is still fun in a crazy way, and it's still entertaining.  It's just weird that it seemingly makes no effort to be a part of the universe anymore.

Stargirl is still fun and I can't really tell the difference from the move to the CW.

Supergirl is fine.  I think it's good that it's ending this season - I think it's run out of gas like Flash or Arrow did.

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I'm enjoying Titans season 3, and I'm glad it's week to week.  One thing that's kind of weird....I'm curious how Barbara is commissioner.  The actress is 37 so I have to assume that Barbara is also about that age (and it fits with the flashbacks we've seen).  In the flashbacks, Barbara is committing crimes for the fun of it and certainly not a cop.  And that's before she's ever Batgirl.  Even if she has a truncated role as Batgirl, when did she ever have time to get the police experience to be *commissioner* of a city like Gotham?

I realize her dad had the job, but I figure even that would not be nearly enough to get someone with minimal experience as the commissioner of a major city, even if she's a super-genius and even if her dad was Jim Gordon.

Outside of the sight gag of saying "Commissioner Gordon" and then it being Barb, her role seems irrelevant to the plot so far.  I would've preferred if she was just a beat cop or a detective.  Her being commissioner by Terry McGinnis' time makes sense, but her being commissioner with no experience at 37 seems crazy even in this universe.

This has been my annual "SQ21 destroys a really small continuity error on Titans"

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Oh I know.  It would just be nice if a company like Disney, which owns so much and inspires so many, could aspire to be better than that.  Amazon and Walmart being cold and heartless makes sense.  And, in a twisted way, they're able to help people by driving down costs and providing their goods at lower prices for people that can't afford other outlets.

Disney still charges the same prices as everyone else, and they've priced out a ton of families from going to Disney World / Disneyland.  It just seems that if any corporation could afford to take less money so that everyone could visit their parks and enjoy their content, it would be Disney.  It's a *very* flawed mindset on my part (especially for someone who has a degree in economics and understands how this stuff works) but it's a nice one to have on a discussion board about parallel worlds smile

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Disney has screwed over a ton of people.  Even if she wins a massive payday, I think they'll continue to do it.

I love the MCU.  It's great that Marvel was able to acquire the rights to the X-Men and the Fantastic Four and the characters they got from Fox.

I think Disney is an awful company with terrible practices, and it sucks that they own so much and will continue to do so.

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ireactions wrote:

Wondering how Slider_Quinn21 is faring with the Kleannara KF94s. I wear masks that are almost the same, but yesterday, I was wandering the park with my favourite actress and the air was hot, getting even hotter through my mask, causing my airways to narrow in response.

I ended up having to take off my KF94 equivalent with its dual droplet blocking layers and put on a thinner surgical mask with only one droplet blocking layer. This one, I could breathe through. I might have to wear these until fall weather arrives.

I go out so infrequently that I haven't really used them enough.  The upper and lower flaps are tight across my face, creating a good seal (I assume) but they're small so they take a little bit of adjusting to get right. 

But I honestly only leave the house to pick up take out food (2-3 minutes) or have groceries/Target orders dropped in my car (where I usually don't interact with anyone enough to put on a mask at all).  With two kids and both of us working from home full time, it's pretty easy to social distance.

I did give some of them to my mom, who is working part time for the next few weeks.

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But those ones did matter.  We got back The Wasp, but we lost Tony Stark.  We got back Mantis but we lost *Tony Stark*.  We got back Maria Hill but we lost Tony Stark.

I know we also got back Spider-Man and Doctor Strange and some other big hitters, but the loss wasn't those guys.  It was Tony Stark, the guy that kicked this thing off and spent the most time on screen out of anyone.  We also lost Black Widow, who never had her own movie but was still #8 in screen time as of Endgame (per a rando source I found) and technically lost Captain America (#2) in the same swing.  That's not nothing, and it's the payment for bringing all those guys back.

So, yeah, they did resurrect a bunch of people, but I think they paid for that.  And I think it's a bit different than whatever nonsense they had on SHIELD to explain Coulson coming back three different times (the LMD one made the most sense).  They kinda cheated on Loki to bring him back, but it was sorta the same thing.  And "main" Loki is still dead.  They toyed around with Pietro, but he's still dead.  They had Nick Fury and Loki fake outs, but neither of them was even dead by the time that movie ended.

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I really enjoyed "The Trial of the Chicago 7" on Netflix.  I know I'm really late to the party, but I thought it was really engaging and interesting.  I didn't know anything about it going in, and I think it's touching on some issues that are just as relevant right now.

It also inspired me to watch "The Social Network" again, which I also really enjoyed.  I hadn't seen it since it came out, and it's also really powerful and has grown in relevance now that we know what Facebook ended up being (and what Zuckerberg ended up being).

I know Sorkin has issues, but the man can write a movie.

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ireactions wrote:

Joss Whedon killed Coulson in AVENGERS and then wrote the pilot episode of AGENTS OF SHIELD in which Coulson is resurrected. When asked why Coulson wasn't in AGE OF ULTRON, Whedon said he found it too difficult to explain to the casual audience why Coulson was alive again; most of the feature film viewers would not have watched an ABC TV series. That has, fairly or unfairly, kept Coulson out of present day Marvel films and Disney+ shows.

I don't buy that.  It may have been casually true during Age of Ultron (where Phil was alive but we may not have known exactly how or why) but it certainly isn't true now.  Coulson is an LMD "canonically" so I think that's all you need.  You could write a line about "Stark missed me so he built me a new body based on the old Coulson" which, true or not, would be enough hand-waving for it to be both true to the show and make sense for the fans.

It wouldn't even need to be "Somehow, Palpatine is back" levels of bad.  He's a robot so you say he's a robot.  Or if you want more spycraft stuff have two characters who know him but wouldn't know the reason (Thor and Banner?) say "I guess he faked his death?"  Its an explanation to the audience whether or not it's the explanation, and I think that would satisfy the audience.  I think most fans would either get it and move on, or they'd assume that it was explained in a comic book they're never going to read.

I think the real reason is that I think they want death to matter.  I think Tony Stark will stay dead.  I think Natasha will stay dead.  James Gunn has been pretty clear that Yondu will stay dead.  I think T'Challa will stay dead.  If Coulson comes back, it opens that door open.  Why wouldn't the government create an LMD of Captain America instead of using John Walker?  Wouldn't Tony have built an LMD of himself?  Why couldn't Kree technology save Yondu?

If you never open that door, it can't ever be used.

Coulson is a popular character.  He led the first Marvel TV show, and they've literally brought him back every chance they've gotten.  They know he's a capable and fun character to use.  And I think if there was anything they could do to unwrite his death, they would've.  But I think they want him to stay dead, and I think they want his death to matter.  And Agents of SHIELD, as much as I liked it, did undermine a key moment in the Avengers.  And I think, especially since I was only able to come up with four examples of key deaths, that matters too much to Marvel and/or Feige.

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Are y'all watching What If?

I think it's a fun show, but I actually wish that it was longer episodes.  I think they could have a bit more fun if they went a little further.  Maybe they'll revisit some of these worlds, but I think Episode 3 (no spoilers) could've benefitted from more story.  Episode 2 (no spoilers) could've benefitted from more prologue and more characters.

I do think episodes 1 and 4 were about as long as they needed to be.  I just wish some of them didn't feel...incomplete.  If they decide to show more in the confirmed season 2, then I'm cool with that as well.

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As someone who watched all of Agents of SHIELD, I wish that it would be canon.  As someone who has watched zero seconds of Inhumans, I'm hoping that it isn't canon.

I assume Agent Carter is canon since it's the only one that has been connected to the movies.  I assume if they wanted Agents of SHIELD to be canon, they would've used Coulson.  The fact that no one has brought back Coulson (post-Avengers timeline) and that he's been brought back for essentially any other reason, my guess is that Agents of SHIELD isn't canon.  Even the stuff that has Fury or Sif in it.

But you know my stance on supplemental materials.  Even while enjoying Star Wars comics smile

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ireactions wrote:

I've really liked all the Dark Horse published SERENITY comics that I've read. "Those Left Behind" is a good start that bridges the gap between the final episode of FIREFLY and the SERENITY feature film. The sequel, "Better Days" is also very strong, also set before SERENITY -- although it reintroduces a plot point / situation from the pilot episode where Inara was seen holding a syringe for reasons unknown. "Better Days" has Simon having secret meetings with Inara in her shuttle and Inara refuses to explain why; this was clearly meant to continue the intended character arc where Inara was self-medicating for a terminal disease. Her illness and impending death is why she wanted to see more of the 'verse before she passed away. It was a storyline that FIREFLY would have elaborated on if not for the cancellation. This plot was subsequently dropped in the later comics and the comics later a completely different explanation for her travels.

We have a series of one-shots: "Downtime" is set during the show and is also a very good story. "The Shepherd's Tale" reveals the truth about Shepherd Book and is very strong. "Float Out" is a one shot by Patton Oswalt and also the first story set after SERENITY.

After that comes the six issue series "Leaves on the Wind" with writer Zack Whedon providing an extended follow-up on the post-SERENITY situation for the crew. The sequel is "No Power in the Verse" by Chris Roberson (a great writer) and I just realized I never got around to reading it, only finishing "Leaves on the Wind."

After that, the license transferred from Dark Horse to Boom Studios. The title also reverted to FIREFLY instead of SERENITY. Since  2018, there have apparently been 31 issues (and counting) of the comic, but I haven't read them either. However, they're written by Greg Pak and I've really enjoyed his work on various X-Men comics including PHOENIX: ENDSONG and his Magneto mini-series.


This is awesome.  I started reading the first book and just finished Those Left Behind and started Better Days.

Incidentally, I've also been reading the 2015 Star Wars comics.  I finished all the Vader stuff prior to the current run, and I'm making my way through the regular Star Wars run.  I loved all the Vader stuff, and I think the Star Wars stuff is up and down (but mostly good).

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Grizzlor wrote:

Well obviously the lead story is the total mess in Afghanistan.  Not much to say other than the US Military is incapable of a mass/hasty withdrawal like this following what is obviously defeat.  Frankly, I don't think any military is capable of keeping order in this type of scenario.  I do not quite understand why the administration seemed to ignore calls for an earlier evacuation?  My personal feeling is that Biden expected that would require taking tens of thousands of Afghans on as refugees, for which every GOP politician would have screamed bloody murder over.

I haven't figured out where I stand on it.  I think Afghanistan was a huge failure and we probably needed to get out.  We probably could've done better, but I agree with Biden that if the Afghans didn't care, why should we?

I do wonder why there wasn't a quicker move to evacuate, and I haven't heard a good reason as to why that didn't happen.  Especially Americans.  I would've evacuated, then withdrawn.  But I'm hardly an expert either.  I think it sucks for all the soldiers who felt like they lost friends for no reason.  But I don't know what else we could've done: it does seem like the options were to leave or stay forever.

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ireactions wrote:

I'm afraid that my ASTM Level 3 masks are a Canadian product delivered within Canada only (and they seem to have sold out anyway at present on innolifecare.com). However, the mask that I have my mother wear is the Kleannara KF94 and Kleannara has an Amazon store.

https://www.amazon.com/stores/KLEANNARA … C97B9972D?

Awesome.  I bought some of these yesterday and they'll be my primary mask.  I really only leave the house to get groceries and pick up take out so I think a good reliable mask will be a key part of staying healthy.

My only concern now is that we have grandparents coming over semi-regularly to help with the kids and my oldest is in daycare.  But I think it's impossible to have zero risk.  I'm just doing what I can.

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You've probably mentioned this before but what ASTM3 masks do you buy?  Can you provide a link?

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So as I continue watching too much TV, my journey has taken me to Firefly and Serenity.

I'm almost done with Firefly and will watch Serenity after that.  But the question is...are the Firefly comics worth reading afterwards?

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The Suicide Squad is my favorite thing out of the DCEU and it's not even close.  So much fun and such a fun sandbox.  It's crazy what they can do if they actually use their whole roster.

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Well when I say it was a mess, it just didn't feel like it amounted to anything.  I know they're doing a "graphic novel" approach where they tell multiple small stories, but I don't know if I could tell you much about what the season represented.  What stories they were trying to tell.  What we learned about the characters.

They had an unfair start because the mirror arc had to be awkwardly resolved, both because I'm sure they didn't have the availability of the relevant actors but because there wasn't much story left.  But then they have that horrible CGI for Fuerza with an evil Speed Force but what did that really accomplish?  Then I thought the Godspeed storyline was just handled so awkwardly, especially as a villain that was teased two seasons ago?

I think, at the end of the day, I didn't care about Chester as much as Cisco.  I don't really care about some of the new characters, and as much as Ralph needed to go, they didn't replace him either.  It would've been nice to introduce another hero like Ralph from the deep bench of DC heroes.  Captain Atom?  Booster Gold?  Static?  I'm sure there are tons of people that they could've brought in, but maybe Covid killed that.

It wasn't bad.  I enjoyed watching each week, but I just don't know what they're accomplishing.  It feels like the middle years of Supernatural where the show just felt like it was spinning its wheels.

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ireactions wrote:

When Barry and Thawne and Godspeed become Jedi Knights, it doesn't feel like a homage to a genre. It's simply lifting the iconography from some other work instead of having THE FLASH create its own. There was no rationale -- none -- for why Barry has previously thrown lightning but now holds it in a solidified form in his hands or why one end of the energy is harmful but the end of which Barry holds it is harmless.

I had the same thought.  In fact, what was weird was that it seemed like Godspeed had harnessed a new power.  He brought out all this lightning and then harnessed it into what I thought was a spear.  And he'd use that spear to hurl at people - Barry's lightning but more controlled or more dangerous or more violent.

I thought it was supposed to be a sign that Godspeed was faster or stronger or whatever.

Then Barry just does it.  He doesn't struggle or talk it through with anyone.  He just does it.

I thought that was super weird.  So Barry has been able to do that the whole time and just didn't?  Was this some sort of power that all speedsters have that just no one has ever used?  But I did like the idea that Barry brought his nemesis to save his son from his son's nemesis.  I thought that was cool.

Overall, I thought this season was a huge mess.