RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

Posting for grizzled
https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/1 … hollywood/

Ha, yes she's into "psychedelic-assisted therapy" now, and campaigned to legalize psychedelics in some manner in Mass, which did not pass.  Her socials basically came to life after years of inactivity, a month ago.  The career path is not a surprise, as she's wanted to go in that direction for as long as I've known her, which was partly what her mother's group was doing in Africa, minus the mushrooms.  Obviously I'm happy that she's happy and seems to be going strong.

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Simon Rosenberg is maybe the biggest hack idiot I've ever seen.  He ignored mountains of data and strung unfortunate souls along with him.  Ignored the absolute awful poll numbers for this administration, as if they were meaningless.  Listen to this guy, VIBES???  Vibes are NOT votes.  The votes are NOT there, in any of these states.  He knows better.

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Ehhhh, Trump is simply doing 2, 3, 4 points better in deep blue counties, thanks to shifts in the Hispanic vote.  She's running 3-5 points behind most all of the Dem Senate candidates.  I follow Democratic accounts like Adam Carlson and Tim Alberta, and they know the numbers and where they need to be.  The numbers are simply not there, not when Trump is running up bigger red margins in rural counties.  At this rate, I'm not sure if she'll win ANY swing state. 

I'm a realist.  She's barely up 6 points here in New Jersey with 80% vote in!  New York about 14 points.  These were 16 and 23 point wins in 2020.

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The problem is, between the TV networks and Twitter accounts I'm following, the outstanding count in blue suburban/urban in states like GA and NC are in person votes, which will favor Trump, so he's going to narrow those advantages slightly.  The bell weather counties in those states and PA not good in terms of them being too close.  Trump has ballooned in many rural deep red counties.  I think she's toast.

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I'm not a huge fan of exit polls, but CNN in Georgia was a massive independent shift for Trump, and NBC exit with indies is +6 for Trump in Pennsylvania.  Trump numbers are up in rural counties pretty much everywhere.  Biden approval terrible everywhere.  Virginia way too tight, so far.

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She's getting leveled in Florida, and Georgia is going to be very tough.  North Carolina still even.  Exit polling for Harris was well behind Biden nationally with Latinos, particularly men.  Not great for the sun belt.  Nevada numbers though in range.

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Really nothing of what I'd consider substantial to know so far as the 7PM states close.  MAGA Twitter is absolutely going nuts about MEN voting.  They must know Trump is being trounced by female voters.  Exit polls out of Georgia not great for Kamala.  Philly turnout is through the roof, Kamala has to love that in PA.  Suburban Indianapolis showing weaker Trump margins.  Telling.

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Most of the poll aggregators have Harris up in the EC, granted these people are a waste of bandwidth as their methods are about as believable as a magic trick.  Senate polling seems like GOP is looking at a few pickups, but the House is very likely to shift back to blue control.

The race has not substantively changed in almost two months, as the money and time spent on polling has been largely wasted, especially on the ones who poll non-stop.  Absolutely no point in doing this.  However, these polls in Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska that I have mentioned, those were taken months apart, they show real movement towards Democrats. 

Harris Campaign feels late deciders are breaking their way, using data which reportedly does support this.  Trump and his surrogates have had a TERRIBLE close.  Between the insults and bizarre comments, it's just been dark and belligerent. 

It's difficult for the polling to get around the significant Trumper non-response bias.  i.e. Trumpers especially older ones are less likely to speak to pollsters, which will continue to skewer the results.  But that's also part of the margin of error.  My personal feeling is that Trump remains capped on support, even though I expect completely insane turnout in rural America for him, which could be an issue in PA.  Women are going gangbusters for Harris, no doubt about that.  I give Kamala the better odds, and the late deciders, but who knows if that is enough?  Again, Biden chased a lot of people off.

PS: However this goes, hats off to Kamala Harris, Tim Walz, and that entire team.  To run a major Presidential campaign in just over 100 days is completely historic, it's never been done before in modern history.  It's difficult to find much to critique on their side.

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I have seen valid sources attribute this information from the Harris campaign....

Tuesday Night: Expect near full results from Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Colorado.  Partial Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona.

Wednesday Morning: Most all Wisconsin, additional Pennsylvania, Michigan.

Later Wednesday (Thursday?): additional Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, etc.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

Agatha was entertaining, but as usual, too short.  Just as you're getting into it, cliffhanger ending.  Very frustrating.

Interesting, you didn't feel like it was a completed first season?  There's certainly more to the story but I didn't feel like it cut off in the middle of a season.  I would expect this story to either get picked up in a second season of Agatha or maybe something like the Vision show or Young Avengers.

Because it was primarily backstory, and nothing really happened.  Worse, they spent most of it on character backstories for characters who will not play a role in the future.  What is the point of that?  These ensemble shows just get carried away.  Focus on the main characters, and move the story along.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

While some of your post is accurate (the endorsements and the Iowa poll) I cannot agree with your assessment of Joe Biden. President Biden is the best President ever besides Barack Obama, and has done a tremendous job with enforcing and addressing the policies within his administration.

Just because all republicans voted against the comprehensive Biden immigration bill at Trump (Hitler's) demand doesn't mean that Biden has been asleep at the wheel.

Also, no Trumper has a valid reason. All of them are based on lies and conspiracy theories spread by the orange menace himself. Until he is blocked from the White House permanently, we all have reason for concern.

If that were true, he wouldn't have one of the worst approval ratings in US history.  Biden's handling of the Southern border from the moment the courts ended the pandemic emergency rule keeping migrants out, has been absolutely pitiful.  He only began to "shut things down" late this summer, well over two years late.  It made no sense. 

Now you can dispute that, but you're arguing with the wrong person.  Biden's age, physical presence, and constant gaffes have literally frightened or frustrated voters away from him.  He has had a number of successes, but his inability to communicate those have rendered them and his candidacy moot.  Even Kamala gave up talking them up and switched to an anti-Trump message.  Biden is radioactive, he cannot speak without blurting out absurdities.

Agatha was entertaining, but as usual, too short.  Just as you're getting into it, cliffhanger ending.  Very frustrating.

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I've already detailed the various reasons which people will vote for Trump.  Most have valid reasons, whether we decide to give them credence or not.  Democrats have allow themselves to generate messages focused on identity politics and away from economics, healthcare, and schooling.  Joe Biden has been asleep at the wheel on a variety of policies. 

The other day I mentioned that Kansas poll.  Well Kamala is flattening Trump in the heavily white/college Omaha Nebraska district.  And even whackier poll, from the incredibly well respected Ann Selzer, in Iowa.  Kamala LEADS by three points!!!  With huge leads on women and seniors.  Selzer has been remarkably accurate in Iowa general elections, she has never been off more than 5 points. 

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story … 354033007/

Harrison Ford endorses a candidate for the first time, speaking about the legion of Republican Generals and former Trump officials who are now against him.

https://twitter.com/CalltoActivism/stat … 2942118267

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Simply gaining the endorsements of Elon Musk, Robert Kennedy II, bribery suspect Nichole Shanahan, Tulsi Gabbard, or other fringe formerly left-leaners, I don't perceive as doing much for Trump's support.  People don't vote based on endorsements.  Musk is now being sued by the AG of Pennsylvania over his $1 million "registration" prizes. 

I still think Kamala should have gone on Joe Rogan.  Rogan lathers his guests, he doesn't like to screw them over.  He allowed Trump to babble, but also laughed when he asked Trump for proof of 2020 fraud, and he of course had none. 

The national polls, and really the state polls, are effectively unchanged for 6 weeks.  There's just no movement at all.  Fine.  I did see some whacky polls in non-swing states.  For instance, there was a state poll from Kansas that showed Trump ONLY ahead by 5!  If he barely clears double-digits in KANSAS, wow.  Won't matter nationally, but it may matter in a crazy race for Senate in Nebraska, where GOP Incumbent Deb Fischer is tied with Independent Dan Osborn!  Absolutely astounding, and given those Kansas numbers, and what we saw in 2022, hmmm.

Here's the thing to consider, as I saw this on Twitter from Adam Carlson.  If you look at Trump's vote share in the BG states in 2016 and 2020, even when he WON some of them, those shares would not get it done now.  Not with any substantive 3rd-party.  That means Trump has to maximum MAGA (ceiling reached in 2020), plus he has to flip quite a few Biden '20 voters and/or create new voters.  This is what I've been harping on.  It's possible, yes, but the demographics don't favor this, not with Harris getting monstrous DEM enthusiasm.  For instance, can Trump actually approach or surpass the 50% mark in most of these states?  That's what it's going to take.  Personally, and this is where what Carville and others have reasoned, he cannot.  He has run such a MAGA-fueled campaign, littered with weirdos that reliable voters don't know or care for.  I just go back to feeling there's a ceiling for Trump, he will hit it and it won't be enough.

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The MSG thing is awful publicity for Trump, it just is.  Will it matter?  Well again, I think there is a small sliver of low-information, low-engagement voter who just sort of accumulates an opinion about an election.  That's if those people vote.  Everyone else is baked in by now.  I think the rally in general, is just another in the line of images imprinted on voters, who are not likely to support Trump to begin with. 

The continued vulnerability for Harris is Joe Biden.  His administration has spent billions upon billions of dollars on a variety of concerns, and the evidence remains very elusive that any of it has worked.  Trump has a much easier task, he's talking about cutting various income taxes (has no power to do so), but also that he'll deport millions of people, and there's a massive ad push to vilify trans people as basically the new "dirty migrant."  People receptive to those things are full on Trump, because it's simple, it's transactional.  Biden's chip program is a flop.  The green initiatives have gotten little to nowhere.  The "Inflation reduction act" has not seen significant real-world inflationary control.  Abortion, health care, free elections, support of allies against despots.  Those are transactional subjects that sell well with Harris-leaning voters. 

To me, the real question is going to be, how many low-information voters did Joe Biden lose from 2021-2023? They are not coming back, and that, I'm afraid, may be the inevitable difference.  When I was screaming for him to quit earlier this year, I said his replacement may not win, but whoever it was, at least had a good chance.  Harris has a good chance, if it doesn't happen, you can blame Joe Biden's blunders.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

GROWING PAINS is free on Plex.  It looks remarkably good. I did not think these 80s sitcoms could look this good.

Must I?  That's one sitcom we watched every week, that I don't think I could re-attempt now.  LOL

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As I have said for awhile now, I don't live and die by polls.  The popular vote will be in the 2.0-3.5% range most likely, which nearly all quality polls are showing, pro-KH.  The battleground states are a different story, BUT there's just not much quality polling there.  Those polls are costly.  The media (who normally sponsor them) aren't spending the money anymore, because the margin of error makes the polls effectively useless.  The remaining polls are not "wrong," they are likely biased, both politically and methodology-related.  Some are just dog droppings, there's no way around that.  You have to look beyond the 48-46, at the actually data tabs.  Those tell a different story, both in terms of demographics, intent, enthusiasm, and focus of issues.  My BEST estimation is that Harris is slightly ahead on those, but behind where Biden finished up.

My gut tells me that one or the other candidate is going to receive a 1 or 2-point (maybe more) windfall from the leaners/undecideds in the end.  I think you're going to see that across all seven states.  That may result in a split in terms of who wins them, but I feel that, it's what almost always happens.  Trump is running for a THIRD time now, a phenomenon which I do not feel has been properly accounted for.  Why?  Because public opinion on the man really has not shifted that much since 2016.  Unless you are an immigration hawk, honestly, what is he really offering that's any different than the past?  He's alienated millions of voters, they're not coming back to him. 

Harris has more going for her (in the electoral ethos) than Trump does.  As I said, he will need record turnout, often among low-propensity voters, to pull it off.  Based on the underlying numbers.  I will NOT be surprised if he wins, potentially by sweeping all but Wisconsin, Michigan, and maybe Nevada.  Not one bit.  Another concept which Rosenberg mentions, are the lack of debates.  Particularly the final late October debate which Trump was scared away from.  That has normally acted as a point in which people get serious about who they're voting for, and whether they do it at all.  What affect that will have, no one knows.  Anyway, the POINT is you'd rather be Harris than Trump right now, because Kamala will be relying on legit GOTV efforts, and a voter pool which is far more likely to actually do the deed.  Trump is relying on a Musk-funded scammy GOTV, and a voter pool which is high propensity but only until a certain.  Trump will need record numbers from people who don't normally care enough to participate.  Again, what has he done to get them out?  IS Kamala that scary to these people?  I highly doubt it.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

So, ol' Elon has been having private conversations with Vladimir Putin.

Both Elon Musk and Trump are cancers on this country.

And North Korea. 

ireactions wrote:

I'm scared, Greg.

I haven't lost hope... but sometimes, hope just fills me with fear because I know how much it will hurt if that hope is proven false.

Look at the bright side, Trump will probably keel over from a heart attack or stroke, and JD Vance will be in charge...

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Stephen A Smith went on Hannity last night, and I think he might've actually been one of Kamala's best surrogates even though he doesn't particularly like her.

- He's a black Republican who said he would've voted for any Republican but Trump
- He tore Trump apart
- He out Hannityed Hannity

I think he spoke to a segment of the Fox News audience that thinks of themselves as conservative/Republican and is uncomfortable with Trump.  I think someone speaking emphatically about those same issues might influence some people.  Enough to make a difference?  Probably not.  But maybe.

She has the FAR better lineup of surrogates.  She has governors, Senators, ex-Presidents, popular celebrities.  Trump has losers, conspiracy-minded dopes, and basically, grifters like him. 

Stephen A. is no Republican though.  The ESPN guy?  Not a chance, but he's a great orator, and hates the Dallas Cowboys like me, ha ha.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Non-MAGA Trump voters are making the wrong decision in my head, but I do think they have a breaking point.  It just depends on where it is.  I don't think most people care about the economy enough to vote for a murderer or a Nazi or a pedophile.

People are self-centered.  I will say this, indicting Trump was a massive mistake, easily the worst of anything.  It took him from potentially being discarded by the GOP, in favor of DeSantis, to being a political martyr.  The delays made it worse, because it's become a case where many low-info voters view Trump as being politically persecuted.  The Colorado ballot ruling, just as utterly stupid.  The Georgia and New York cases, regardless of merit, were never very compelling to the public.  The documents case is equally mundane.  The case to try was the Jan 6th case, that was the one.  Didn't happen.  Trump has been normalized, and ppl avoid or discount the sadistic crap he's babbling. 

Now there is another school of thought, which Bill Maher, for instance, blurted out several weeks ago.  He claims Trump will lose, people are sick of him.  James Carville and other veteran Dems point to the poor results of Trump and his party beginning in 2018.

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The Trump vote will not care, doesn't matter what the "bombshell" is.  Each attack on his putrid character they take as an attack on them.  It's a waste of time.  People who vote transactional, are going to do it based on issues they judge on.  That's usually economic, and perhaps some chief executive questions around immigration or foreign policy.  These are low information, low engagement, low propensity voters.  Many are younger men, men of color.  That's who Trump has been spending nearly all his time on the last several weeks.  He is maxed out on MAGA, needs more.  The volume of pro-Trump rigged polling, the ridiculous attack ads, you name it, it all spells out a campaign that believes it's behind. 

Now, there are still challenges for Harris.  Republicans are voting big time in early voting in Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada.  The biggest complaint on her is the lack of a coherent, static, policy platform.  To me that's much less of a concern than Trump's, which is the utter chaos he will bring back.  Polls I feel like at this point, are pointless to check.  The margin of error makes anything that is retrieved in the final weeks really statistically insignificant.  Traditionally, Trump has been buoyed by the low-engagement voter.  That's the ones who rarely vote, and usually just in Presidential contests, and don't pay much attention to politics.  They tend to break to Trump, and because they are tough to get in contact with, they don't show in polling.  Why do they break Trump?  They are low information, and the sound bites which inundate their social media and TV are usually not good for Democrats.  I've gone through them 50 times, and it's too late to do much about it now. 

Here's what I will say though, I DO expect Harris to bleed a degree of support from '20 Biden on Latino/Black men, Arab-Americans, and some other groups.  It's inevitable given the Biden track record on immigration, inflation, and pro-Israel policy.  The KEY though is that despite all that, the numbers I really don't expect to wind up shifting that, that much.  It's going to make this far closer than 2020, and could go either way.  There was very little Kamala was going to do or say to change those opinions, not when those voters were effectively lost in the prior two years.  The key for Harris is going to land on moderates/independents who just simply cannot accept more Trump.  The 2022 Dobbs rejection, the Haley vote percentile in GOP primaries, and the long-term slide for Donald among the college-educated, especially older ones. 

As Rosenberg or Bonier or Carville or Maher et all have recently stated, the core of the vote favors (slightly) Harris.  Trump is going to need a substantial turnout/production from a segment of the citizenry who are traditionally the least likely to vote.  Is that a Hail Mary?  It might be.  Worse yet was that his campaign outsourced the mobilization of these voters to Elon Musk and others, who have zero track record, and audit after audit has shown that Elon's 100s of millions have been completely fleeced with little to no ROI. 

Harris was criticized for campaigning with former Republicans.  Why?  These Bernie fans do not understand how you win a general election.  Each day, more and more former Trump officials, and Republicans in general, come out in favor of Kamala.  They continue to cite Trump's authoritarian beliefs, and the chaos he will unleash.  It's a trickle, but IMO it's meaningful, because it plants the thoughts that Trump = chaos.  Again, the media and left bash Harris for not concretely identifying plans.  This is true, but again, her closing argument is going to be a defense against Trump "fascism" because she's had a mere months to campaign!

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Quinnipiac stinks, their polls are all over the map.  They have been a highly reliable polling group in the past, .  One pollster (forget which) was just caught "removing" samples from the entire city of Philadelphia.  They were found out when they put a PA poll out showing KH in the lead with RV (registered) yet trailing with LV (likely) which made no sense.  The LV results were missing the Philly %, so duh. 

Simon is correct, and unfortunately RCP (who have never made themselves out to be impartial) continue to over rely on R polling, and often leave out other D leaning polling which have similar shoddy metrics.  The polling continues to show that a verifiable % of Nikki Haley voters in the BG States (Granted many were simply naughy Dems) are supporting Harris instead.  I saw a number that was maybe 9%.  That's not a ton of people, but it's people nonetheless who Trump has chased off.  And they vote.  If you got off your butt to vote in a primary that was already decided, you are 99% sure of voting in the General.  I hasten to call these folks simply "White College" voters as they are not simply white, but the traditionally strong Republican contingent of them are shaping up to move further to Harris than perhaps even Biden got in 2020. 

Yes, Trump has made gains with union members, and with men of color.  That's a concern.  But I do feel like Harris may have picked up enough (or Trump lost) with other demos.  However, here's the problem with that strategy.  THEY DON'T VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  If you look at the data, Harris is as I said, in better position with highly motivated voters.  Trump is solid with those who traditionally, are not.  The RFK Jr. crowd, the bro culture podcasters (Theo Von, Rogan, Barstool, etc, etc), the bitcoin morons, and worst of all, the tech billionaire crowd.  These are heavy on men, men who are 25-45 years old, often single, often non-college, etc.  They do not vote.  Yes, Trump will do well with this group, well enough to make it closer than 2020 perhaps, maybe even squeak out the win.  But the odds are not in his favor there.  As I said, it is an ecosystem that the rest of the country's demographics simply aren't a part of.  They are ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT, and by virtue, distrust the political process.  They continue to trade conspiracies on every subject, attack proven experts, and spend way too much time on FanDuel.  Trump has spent so much time attacking early and absentee voting, vote counting, certification, he's done immense harm to his own chances.  This is why the campaign's Plan B is to challenge the vote immediately, and cause chaos.

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From Dave Wasserman, "in key battleground states Harris leads 51-47 among voters who always show up.  Trump has a lead of 52-45 with low/mid-propensity voters."  This probably explains the Trump (and friends) strategy to try to coax these disengaged voters out of the woodwork.  Which is why I would temper the enthusiasm of the Hopium types going on the 2022 electorate, which of course, was sans-Trump.  What we ARE seeing is a clear more from 2020 even of the college grad demo towards Kamala, and those are the folks who vote in fair higher percentages.  Good for her.  Trump though is still likely to pull a greater portion of the blue collar segment, particularly with men of color.  So as I have been saying, you really cannot "pick" a winner prior, it's going to be about demographic turn out.

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I cannot remember where I saw the article, but the Trump campaign has outsourced most of it's "ground game" to a number of third parties.  The most prominent one is funded by Elon Musk.  Their goal is to pay volunteers and whatnot in the battleground states to canvas very specifically.  This is not unique.  However, normally you would give canvassers a list of folks who are effectively "on your team."  The point is you know they are reliable votes, and you want to be 100% sure they physically vote.  These groups though are not really doing that much.  Instead, they are sifting through the edges, to attempt to pry Trump votes out of low participation voters.  Hence the push toward black and Hispanic men, and other groups who may be audible to the Trump platform, such as the Amish in PA.  They have done this in recent elections, including 2022, and were not particularly successful.   With how tight things are, it could be vital.

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If you are someone who finds the accusations against Trump damning, you're not voting for him.  There's NOBODY left to persuade on that end.  Criminals have been elected before, people vote selfishly. 

The bigger story was Vance refusing to say Trump lost.  Bigger story should be the big job numbers from September.  Or Pete Buttigieg resolving the potentially disastrous longshoremen strike in just days.  Or Joe Biden and Kamala visiting the hurricane victims in Western NC.

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Trump doesn't have politics.  Just in the last month, he has invented new policies, backtracked, zig-zagged, everything under the sun.  He is currently aligned with an absolutely ridiculous program where Tucker Carlson, RFK Jr., Tulsi, and Vivek are marching through battleground states entertaining the sheep.  Those people have incredibly divergent stances on major issues.  Moreover, Trump is increasingly backed by Crypto morons, but his main backers in Super PAC's remain the tried and true corporations.  The GOP is lobbied massively by big Ag, big Pharma, big Oil, and big Insurance, as are the Democrats.  Yet you have MAGA now boasting how RFK Jr. is going to fire and hire a litany of federal watchdog agencies.  I poke the RFK crowd on Twitter all the time, because they are just delusional and lying to themselves.  Trump will drop that guy like an old rag if he wins. 

I beat you to the "I can sleep at night" GOP candidates being incredibly more palatable than Trump.

Anywho, another former pollster who I think really "gets" the numbers and the kinds of polls being dumped out there, is Adam Carlson (@admcrlsn).  He posts a LOT, but his analysis is pretty honest.  He gets into the weeds on the crosstabs, and also points out the massive dumping of online-driven polling.  He seems to be focusing on how the polling demographics are very, very, very similar to 2020's results.  Moreover, he says what I've been saying, that the MAGA insistence on comparing same-time polls with 2020 or 2016 is pointless, as the electorate shifts and the polling methodology surely has changed big time.  They do not reveal theirs so speculating is also fruitless.  My take on his analysis remains that Trump ***could*** be slightly stronger with Black and Hispanic men, and definitely with conservatives.  That likely results in slight advantages in AZ, GA, NV, and NC for him, as well as PA.  However, as always, it's a question of who votes?  Adam even lampooned polling some because human psychology gets involved, and many people apparently forget who they voted for, and also lie about whether they voted, and would they this time.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I agree about the polls, but I want people to be careful about crosstab diving only when the poll looks good.  NYT had a poll a week ago that had Kamala up 4 in Pennsylvania and tied nationally.  That would obviously be an unusual result, but which is the poll that's wrong?  Or are both of them wrong?  Or is it possible that both are right?  It would be nice if the Pennsylvania poll is right but the national poll and the 3 Sun Belt polls are Republican-leaning.  But as Grizzlor says, polls don't matter.

What might be more interesting in the days and weeks is some of the real-time voting information we get.  How many are voting and what is their party affiliation.  Because, honestly, I'd love if every single Harris voter voted early and Election Day was simply Trump votes.  More to go wrong, more chance of chaos or mischief.  It would make me feel better.  I'm hoping Kamala and her campaign have gotten out the word to vote as early as possible with some sort of infrastructure to help people get to the polls.

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The Georgia hand-count law makes me nervous.  I think the whole game is to take Georgia off the board.  Because let's remember that Trump doesn't have to get to 270.  He doesn't have to play offense - he can only play defense and he wins in the House.  That's what's nerve-wracking.  But luckily at least one person in Nebraska has stood up for democracy.  We will need a lot more like him to defeat Trump.

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I don't believe for a second that if Trump loses in 2024 that he won't be back in 2028.  I will have a ton to say if Trump loses, but I think he'll be back.  He'll be further gone and crazier, but if he's alive, he's running.

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I cannot wait until his reign over the GOP is over.

The polls aren't right or wrong, there is the margin of error for a reason.  The cross tabs though can often better explain certain results.  Sienna might have oversampled men nationally, while going the other direction for one of the states.  For example. 

The extra counting in GA to me, is nothing but a nuisance and won't amount to anything. 

If he loses, Trump will then have to likely face one if not two Jack Smith-led prosecutions, which would be the full end of him. 

GOP isn't going anywhere.  The Democratic Party continues on a path away from blue collar issues and towards identity politics, and behemoth spending projects that have historically bad results.

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The Sienna/NYT polls have been all over the place.  The worst one I've seen though is ActiVote, who just put out a poll of 400LV which took them a MONTH to sample.  I mean, on the one they still were doing Biden vs. Trump!  It's a total joke.  Simon makes mention of this, but no matter the poll, you NEED to pay attention to the crosstabs.  What is the sample made up of?  Gender, party affiliation, how do they feel on certain issues, etc.  However, about a month from now, I would look at where Real Clear Politics has it's averages, and check sites like 538. 

Are there really any undecided's left?  I mean, come on now.  I'm very intrigued whether the dumpster fire Robinson down in North Carolina will harm Trump?  Might happen.  The polls are snapshots.  The betting markets are often a better check these days, because they are measuring intent.  It's going to be all about the turnout.

PS: Nebraska will NOT be altering their electoral vote procedure, so the likely victory in 2nd district for Harris will net her 1 vote.  That's huge obviously in attempting to get to 270.

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Exhaustive discussions over "language" are fine and dandy, but are as actionable as me farting into the wind.  The uber-sensitivity only stifles inventive thought, and divides, it only divides.  The first amendment allows for it, as simply being crass with language is protected, and one should not fear for that.  The outrage police have soiled political discourse, particularly on the left, and driven a mass of people towards the Orange menace.  In fact, I would say that besides inflation, it's up there in 2nd place for driving left of center folk into Trump's small hands.  There has been a high level clampdown on free thought and discourse, which largely came out of the COVID paranoia, and has increasingly turned younger generations off.  Yes, we want to caution against "misinformation," but the result has been a string of justifiable accusations against the main stream media, and Democratic officials.  That combined with the Democratic Party's absurd inaction on immigration (The Fed even commented that illegals make the unemployment statistics worse), rampant crime post-lockdown, and the pro-trans movement which continues to freak out parents.  This string of foolishness is why the tree in my yard would poll better than Joe Biden on almost any issue.  And now Kamala is being tasked with trying to convince voters that she effectively either disagreed with that foolishness (and stayed silent), which few believe, or that she's willing to "change."  It's going to be a highly difficult ask.  If Trump wins, one can easily point to the breakdown of classical, actual liberalism, in favor of the un-American and idiotic ideals of the left that has submitted itself, largely through fear of being "racist" to a movement that seems to despise America's actual ideals.  It's boxed the left into this ridiculous space where antisemitism and anti-colonialism mix, and the result is toxic.

Anyway, after my rambling TED talk, the view of Northwestern University data scientist Thomas Miller is an interesting one.  He uses the betting markets, rather than polling, to conclude that Kamala Harris will still win in a landslide.

https://www.newsweek.com/data-scientist … on-1955575

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Nate Silver just rehashed what everyone already knows, and what I've said for a year now.  The GOP continues to lose with Trump.  Haley or Desantis would be up and cruising at this point. 

I saw Trump's comments in Michigan, they were worse they you realize.  Firstly, the drilling answer is ridiculous, and every time he goes there, it makes him look dumber on the subject.  Secondly, he specifically said he would put tariffs on imported food!!!!  This is easily this stupidest and worst tariff idea yet!  I mean, how much coffee, bananas, avocados, coconuts, etc., are grown in the United States?  Some but most of that comes from central or south America.  Meaning your Starbucks would cost $30 a cup!!!  IDIOT!!!!  Again, anti-Trump PAC's should seize on these statements and lampoon him to no end.  He also told Michigan autoworkers that the state's move towards EV's was a waste of time and money.  He said "why should you compete with the Chinese who will do it better and cheaper."  WTF.  So if the US auto industry refuses to evolve, then what?  Again, complete IDIOT!

Inflation went down a bunch recently, and the FED's 0.5% point slash today will help stimulate the economy and bring inflation down, albeit not immediately.  Trump has basically spitballed his entire platform, to the point that his surrogates cannot even keep up with the daily brain droppings. 

Dave Wasserman, from New Jersey, is a good read.  He actually works with data, unlike Silver who's goal these days are to handicap elections for gamblers.  Dave has helped publish the Cook Political "Swingometer."  It's a genius tool, because you can see how turnout by demographics impacts the results.  In fact, Dave mentioned that in say, Wisconsin, if Kamala retains the 2020 Black voter edge, she wins, but Trump could flip the state if that moves in his direction by just a few points.  Likewise, demographic shifts in North Carolina have positioned the state to where if VP Harris retains the 2020 White voter numbers Biden had, she would flip the state.  Give it a try!

https://www.cookpolitical.com/swingometer

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ireactions wrote:

I think my terror is probably about us here in Canada, where we are staring down the barrel of an election where the advantage is with this climate change dismissing looney toon who is basically Trump lite.

What do you mean?  Think of all the "seafront" property who will have up in Canada thanks to global warming.  Trump told the good folks in Michigan about that tonight on stage.

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Well, another loon, with a gun, attempted to shoot Trump down.  This time it was at his local golf course, before USSS intervened.  This man has a history of run in's with the law, and neighbors described him essentially as a complete nutjob, and probably a dangerous one.  This followed a bizarre tweet by Trump "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT," earlier in the day.

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At this point, you're not going to convince people who still cannot make up their minds.  It's a fallacy.  They either won't vote, or they're just lying to poll takers.  Trump continues to lead by a significant margin on immigration and the economy.  As humiliated as he got the other night, it may not end up mattering.  He certainly won't debate again.  It's going to continue to be an uphill fight for Democrats over the next several weeks, and they can push their supporters to vote, with emphasis on abortion and Trump's authoritarianism.  Immigration is a lost cause, everything that's been said, has been said.  Joe Biden and/or those in his administration (possibly including the VP) just simply failed on that issue.  For anyone who finds it to be a deciding factor, you lost them awhile ago.  I felt her economic proposals were good, and hopefully they can advertise those more wherever they are, and go.  Becomes a battle to see who gets more people out to vote.

A better print could emerge at some point.  I would definitely agree that most consumers would want the most technologically assisted/aided version.

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The contest will be decided by both low-information, and low-enthusiastic voters.  I think she has converted legions of "low-enthusiasm" voters into her column, and will get most of them to actually vote.  Trump has done this as well, of course.  The rest of them are mainly sick of both parties, and probably will not vote.  It's the "low-information" voters who worry me.  Some are young people, but usually those folks do not vote.  The older ones, especially women and single men, are a concern.  Many of them are lower income.  They see the rates of inflation, as well as other factors, and are not happy with the economy.  As well as immigration.  They do not view Trump as the danger he is, because again, low-information.  They are concerned over their ability to afford even the basics, and they look back pre-pandemic, and they know it was easier then.  They don't take into account the disaster Trump made out of the pandemic response, that made worldwide supply chains crippled.  Or the work that Biden's administration has done politically to ease these things.  My only hope is that these people will get the message.  Hence why I think it's important for Harris to get out there onto platforms that these folks WILL see.

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Trump groups ran a pretty savage anti-immigration commercial that showed up during CNN post-debate coverage.  Harris now though, she really needs to start appearing on specific TV, and social media, programs.  I don't care if they are softball spots like Jimmy Fallon or The View or whatever.  Just to keep the narrative going.  "We're not going back."  Her campaign speeches, convention, and now this debate, have been tailored well, and her message has been largely focused.  Now they need to broadcast that far more frequently.  Fundraising broke records last night.  Well great.  She has to branch out.  She can deliver this message.  Trump is a blithering old fool.  If voters cannot perceive that by now, I really don't know what else to do or say to them.  I'm tapped out.  His ideas are terrible. 

PS: Did y'all notice how the supposed secret weapon MAGA have been touting for weeks, went unspoken???  Not one utterance of Trump's alliance with RFK Jr., nor his top issues like fighting "corporate capture," free speech, or a sudden "left turn" Trump promised to take.  Nadda.  Guess that goes to show the losers backing Kennedy how much Trump actually thinks or cares about them.  If he wins, Bobby K will be forgotten.

I thoroughly enjoy the artwork, animation style, effects they use.  The problem is the pacing.  Everything is so dark, and ultra slow.  Often the translations don't work well with the scenes, although I could assume this one is alright considering the production value.  The pacing is kind of what has soured my viewing of most of the Star Wars saga on Disney+.

Afraid not, the last anime I watched, needed to force myself to get through it, which was the one for Supernatural.

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Look I think it's far simpler.  Most Americans, who are not betrothed to one side or the other, went into the debate with two ideas about the candidates.  Trump is old, off kilter, mean-spirited, and full of himself, though at "face value" his policies and complaints often ring true.  Kamala is confident, smarter, tenacious, but unproven with potentially vapid policies.  Well, in plain view of tens of millions of people, Donald Trump played the role of his own caricature to a T.  At this point, if you had ANY potential doubts about VP Harris, and still have those, I'm afraid you are just an unserious moron.  Man or Woman up and make a damn adult decision. 

Will the debate matter?  Hard to say to what extent because the polling is all within the margin of error anyway.  I do think there are continued issues economically to deal with.  Frankly, I thought the few lines which Kamala was able to make on her plans were worthwhile.  Trump's economic plans are colossally bad.  I'd only wished more time were spent on them.  Drill, cut billionaire taxes, raise tariffs on goods.  Absolutely awful, like Brazil-bad!!!  Not to mention that ABC's Muir inadvertently BAILED him out of answering how he would deport 12 million people!  What kind of chaos and travesties that would cause.

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What was it, three months ago, or longer, I was screaming and pleading to get Biden out of there.  THIS was why!!!!  I also don't know what affect this debate will have, but VP Harris completely decimated the old dope.  She ruthlessly, and I mean, ruthlessly, ripped him to shreds on her issues (including the abortion question which Biden was unable to).  I almost felt bad for Trump when she basically tore his clothes off on national TV by bashing his crazy rallies, then creamed him again on foreign dictators.  Trump naturally responded in idiotic fashion.  I literally could not believe he even brought up the stupid cats and dogs being eaten in Ohio baloney!!!!!!!  Then he quadrupled down on it, and FOUGHT the ABC co-host over it.  Trump looked old, stupid, mean, dumb, full of anger, and completely worthless.  Harris looked smart, young, vibrant, tough, coherent, and fearless. 

You know how bad it went for Trump, when every pundit of his bitched about the ABC moderators.  He lost, and lost BIGLY.  I mean, wow, completely ripped the veneer away from this orange schmuck on LIVE TV.  I don't wish to take anything away from Kamala's performance, which requires intense preparation and strength, but this was so EASY.  It should always have been this EASY.  Even in the GOP world.  This guy is a complete phony.  Substance wise, not a great debate for that, but who cares?  You weren't getting any from the old buffoon. "I have concepts to replace Obamacare."

PS: Taylor Swift announced she's voting for Kamala....

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Very quick thought.  Kamala allowing Trump Show to play on primetime TV.  He's literally regurgitating every idiotic and mostly false MAGA conspiracy and social media baloney.  I can't wait to see Jon Stewart recap at 11pm live.

ireactions wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

What I am getting at is that even this rotoscoping you're mentioning, I don't want that either.

If you don't want DESPECIALIZED to use rotoscoping, I'm not sure how you expect DESPECIALIZED to even exist.

Digital scans of film prints, while a little softer, are consistent throughout. Of course, a lot of people may prefer DESPECIALIZED because they find the hyper grainy look of the digital scans more distracting than DESPECIALIZED being a bit schizophrenic in sharpness. I personally decided to run the digital scans through an AI grain normalization process -- not to remove the grain, just to make it the same in one scene as it is in all others.

Yes, that's entirely my point!  Despecialized was fine when there was nothing else.  Now that actual prints can be made presentable, there's no need for it.  Star Wars had to be one of the few if only films which were rebuilt in that way, as a result of Lucas's hacking up the originals.  With other films, you find an original and just restore it.

What I am getting at is that even this rotoscoping you're mentioning, I don't want that either.  I want the original cuts, as they were printed for theaters.  Yes, you want to clean them up solely to restore the image, nothing more.  There was a time when I kinda went, yeah, lets spruce those up with new tech and effects, because ILM was lacking or behind schedule.  However, I've gotten to the point now, well awhile ago in fact, that is actually what I do NOT want.  Adding stuff in that wasn't there, especially stuff that wasn't shot, is a bridge too far.  You are welcome to do that, as a director, but at least give us the originals!

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The Sienna/NYT poll has a R+3 lean, it's not a bias, it's just based on their sample.  You cannot poll anybody under the age of 40, as they will not respond to unknown phone numbers and often emails.  I'm older than that, and I sure don't!!!

Jerry is kind of a goofball, which is part of it.  When I mentioned to Rebecca that he'd be a hit at conventions, she just laughed hard, and said, "I don't even think he has an agent!"  It's not that important to him, I guess, and trust me the man has ZERO insecurity about meeting fans all day.  Quite the opposite, as he is a long-time talk show and game show host.  What I do find odd is that he promotes a lot of stuff, which I think he might be involved in (comics on tour), and his own jobs, all over social media.  Appearing at conventions is often a pretty good way to promote your own stuff too.  I mean, he was at Star Trek Las Vegas (the big con) with Rebecca, but he's a main cast member on Lower Decks, but really didn't participate in the programming for that.  Odd.

Anywho, I was happy to see he got a few minutes to catch up with Rhys-Davies, if anything.  I do not expect anything Sliders-related to come from that, of course.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

based on how JRD is dressed (he normally wears an outfit like that for conventions) and the credential necklace around jerry's neck, i am assuming they were both at the same fan convention.

Yes I think it was Fanboy Expo Orlando, JRD and Rebecca Romijn were booked.  Jerry usually (not always) accompanies his wife, and this was the first time both he and John were at the same one.  I have implored Jerry to take convention bookings, people would line up for him.  Then you could have things like dual photo ops with him and John, probably a Sliders panel, etc.

https://x.com/MrJerryOC/status/18324981 … g&s=19

Getting the team back together...

https://i.postimg.cc/Mvg3rPWc/Screenshot-20240907-154252.png

How cool is that?

But doesn't despecialized still use footage which was digitally enhanced?  I want something that has been cleaned up but I do NOT want even minimal stuff like painting glowing engines on X-wings.

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Well I fret that Harris has allowed a lot of the momentum to fade, as she and Walz have been campaigning but the country doesn't see them.  The staff is obviously full of Biden personnel who are antagonistic towards the press, and it's stupid.  She should be doing every celebrity podcast there is, there's plenty of softball ones for her to do.  Even if they don't want her on TV shows, which again, is short-sighted.  Harris is barely in the news highlights anymore.  They're rolling out a pro-small business economic plan this week.  Who's covering it?  You don't see anything, because he's not directly speaking to the press.

Jim_Hall wrote:

To be honest I'm surprised so many 4K discs are still being produced, especially when the 4K players are outrageously priced. I bought two players, one $420 and the other $250. I figure 4K is the last resolution that will be ever be adopted. However I'm using a 5K iMac and the difference between reading text is like night and day. That's at desktop viewing distance though. I don't think many people would even watch a 5K TV that close. It'd be useless anyway because lack of content.

There's still revenue to be had there, and the studios want it, particularly on new releases.  I still don't even own a 4K television!

ireactions wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

DVD now needed to fit some (not all) of the litany of BRD extras, the studio would often sacrifice DVD bit rate to squeeze it on there.   Granted, many releases simply put the extras onto a second disc, but that's a cost associated.  Frankly, producing new bonus content wound up being a waste of money, as studies found the vast majority of it went unwatched.

That's unfortunate!

To me, I think of how the Universal DVD release of SLIDERS looks shockingly poor on DVD for Episodes 102 - 109, but if played on a CRT television, I don't think anyone could tell that those episodes looked any blurrier than the pilot or the subsequent seasons. I also doubt poor DVD bit rate was a problem until HD televisions started reaching 75 percent of homes by 2013, at which point DVD was already too low a resolution for the screen, and overcompression would make it worse. However, by 2015, it was pretty clear that DVD was going to fade in favour of streaming and, if anyone really wanted physical media, blu-ray for collectors.

Don't knock the CRT!  HA HA HA.  Oh there are entire communities, of which I am part of one on Fartbook, devoted to our oversized, aging, yet reliable friends.  Mainly their preservation, so when we find one on the curb or a curb-listing, we try to get them, and offer them up to others.  As with arcade monitors, there are no CRT factories remaining on the planet.  There is nothing quite like playing old school video games in front of the glow of the cathode ray tube!  Many of those aficionados watch literally everything on them, ha ha, something I myself would not dare.  But if you can find one of the "HD" CRT's that were sold in the 2000s, and were widescreen, they are very popular with those folks.

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There's I read something like 175 polls on this race being taken across the country, and most of those are dog feces.  They have little to no scientific or academic basis, without even getting into the Blue or Red-tinged pollsters who are free to apply their biases.  I personally don't care for Nate Silver, and never have.  I felt his 538 garbage was essentially just that, and really have little faith in these polling predictive models.  They act as if they are superior, but they're really not.  Furthermore, one of the newer and "hotter" ones on the web is Poly-Market, a fly by night operation owned by billionaire Peter Thiel, yes the same tech bro who basically invented J.D. Vance, and supports Trump.  So when PolyMarket shows for Trump, I just roll my eyes.  Well guess who else is on Thiel's payroll these days?  That's right, Nate Silver, who was so good at his job that ABC fired him.  I'd rather hear from a Simon Rosenberg or a Karl Rove than these entities, at least they know politics.

PS: Allan Lichtman, as many suspected, announced that Kamala will win based on his "13 keys."  She's won 8 to Trump's 3, with two remaining undetermined.  He has been "correct" in nine of the last ten Presidential contests, going back to 1984.  To be fair, the majority of those were somewhat "settled" with clear favorites going in, and though he picked Gore in 2000, that one was as much of a tie as one could get, well, maybe before this year.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol … 082875007/

ireactions wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

DVD's were fine, for about a decade.  When Blu-Ray came out, many studios began intentionally degrading their DVD releases on the same product.  Disney was notorious for this, as a way of showing off how much "better" BRD was.  In fact, it wasn't THAT much better.  The bit rate, sure, but given that 4K televisions did not become the "standard" until somewhat recently, there was often not a huge reason to have blu-ray's for close to a decade themselves, on older content.

I wasn't aware that Disney was releasing poor bit rate DVDs (if I understand you correctly). Where can we read more about this?

Well, the first thing to look at would be what "extras" are on the discs?  For several years, DVD's mostly were sold with simple audio commentary track(s), trailers, a limited menu, and maybe a few deleted scenes.  This required minimal disc space.  Some studios like Warner Brothers often printed double-sided discs, one for widescreen and one for pan & scan.  After that first "wave," studios decided that they could start releasing other editions like director's cut, blah blah blah.  Yet, these would need to be additional discs in the case, so really no change.  With the advent of the blu-ray, and its well over 5x capacity increase from DVD, you could fit a larger film file (1080p) encoded at a higher bit rate.  However, you could also offer additional cuts, extras, and newly produced bonus content like interviews and documentaries, all on a single disc.  Well, when the studios go to sell them early on, they can't simply sell a blu-ray release, especially of a new film, you had to release a DVD or you'd lose out on millions of customers.  Since the DVD now needed to fit some (not all) of the litany of BRD extras, the studio would often sacrifice DVD bit rate to squeeze it on there.   Granted, many releases simply put the extras onto a second disc, but that's a cost associated.  Frankly, producing new bonus content wound up being a waste of money, as studies found the vast majority of it went unwatched. 

Now, obviously how the particularly movie you bought on DVD 15 years ago was shipped, in terms of extras and # of discs, etc., varied on a case by case basis. 

There are videophiles complaining incessantly on Reddit about 4K releases, and the type of BluRay disc being used.  They go crazy about whether a studio compresses to fit on a cheaper disc, when in fact the human eye is never going to discern the difference.  Perhaps in a screen capture, but who cares?  In fact, when they came out, people were screaming about how the studios often just took the DVD stream, and upscaled it, and sold you a 1080p version of an old film that your TV probably could have upscaled similarly, ha ha ha. 

The other issue is that many of the old forums and websites have vanished, but here's one where a customer was annoyed that Disney cheaped out and stuck too much on a single disc, and fouled up the video quality.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/disney … tby=newest

Oh cool, I have been meaning to get ahold of the TN1 stuff for awhile now.  IMO those are vastly superior to the earlier work (which I have) that sourced Bluray and DVD.  Now that they have found film, each time more complete, the work is better and more authentic.  I cannot describe the disgust the repeated Lucas mutilations have caused me, ha ha ha.  Frankly, of all the re-added scenes in the OT, maybe the only one I felt "added" to any of them was the Biggs/Luke embrace prior to the Battle of Yavin in the first movie.  Every other addition or change was putrid, and should never have been made.

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Just take the week off, nobody is paying attention to squat until the debate.

DVD's were fine, for about a decade.  When Blu-Ray came out, many studios began intentionally degrading their DVD releases on the same product.  Disney was notorious for this, as a way of showing off how much "better" BRD was.  In fact, it wasn't THAT much better.  The bit rate, sure, but given that 4K televisions did not become the "standard" until somewhat recently, there was often not a huge reason to have blu-ray's for close to a decade themselves, on older content.

Most TV series were shot this way on film (edited in post on tape), except maybe sitcoms which were shot entirely on video.  Unfortunately, the process of obtaining the film, rescanning that, followed by a shot by shot reproduction of what was done in post, is never going to happen for this series.  It's still something that they did it for Star Trek and Next Gen.

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pilight wrote:

Bail reform is not soft on crime.  If a crime is serious enough to hold someone prior to trial, fine.  If it's not, fine.  There is no situation in which a crime is serious enough to hold someone unless they have money to buy their way out.

Tell that to the NYPD, who are forced to re-arrest the same violent criminals, many migrant gang members, some who have attacked cops, over and over.  These criminals are let right back onto the street, and commit further violent crimes.  It's a complete disaster.  It started from a point of social justice, as yes, many people were held seemingly indefinitely for trial, and could not afford bail.  However, it was taken advantage of by lunatic judges from the get-go.  The rampant violent crime, played out nightly on local news, in NYC plus a failure to gerrymander, literally handed GOP most of the NY state suburb districts around Manhattan.  Including one to the ridiculous George Santos.  New Jersey remained blue, because we don't allow that shit here!  You attack a cop, you beat up a woman, or you throw someone off a subway platform, you stay in jail, in Jersey. 

ireactions wrote:
QuinnSlidr wrote:

ireactions - You did ask for a representative. The other James above that you mention is not a government rep. smile Otherwise I probably would have included who you did.

Semantics, I know...oh, well...

I think you are confused. The James Carville Jr. you mentioned and quoted is the same person I quoted. Carville Jr. is not a Republican. However, Carville Jr. is also strongly opposed to the social justice focus of a number of Democrats, in particular Bernie Sanders.

BTW, one of those Bernie alums is now Trump backer Tulsi Gabbard. 

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

A couple of notes of note

- Regarding polling error.  This is my big worry because we literally won't know the error until it's essentially too late.  In 2020, the error was pretty huge in some cases so the whole thing makes me nervous.  The polling error in 2020 was enormous, but it was also a pretty unusual year (obviously).  With lockdowns going on across the country and Democrats more locked down than usual, the samples could've been incorrect.  There was also the "shy Trump voter" issue at hand as Trump was extremely unpopular.

There was some thought earlier in the year that Biden might've had the same issue.  Biden was so unpopular that people might've been "shy Biden voters" and told pollsters that they were voting for who they were perceiving is/was the more popular candidate at the time.

Are there still shy Trump voters?  I feel like Republicans would be more likely now to admit that they are supporting Trump - the legal stuff might have dissuaded them a little bit, but that seems to have passed a bit.  I also think you're seeing Biden voters saying they're switching to Trump so I think that bit of polling error might have been corrected a bit.  Obviously the covid stuff is over so the sampling issue might be fixed.  There's a thought that Republicans are just against polls and are less likely to take them.  So that could still be an issue.

Of course, during the primaries, Biden overperformed his polls and Trump underperformed his.  Is there a chance that pollsters, in an attempt to correct 2020, overcorrected and are oversampling Republicans?  Is it the other theory that Republican-funded polls that lean right are flooding the market and affecting polling averages?  Maybe?  I would love if the polling was wrong but in our direction.  I guess we won't know until November.

- Trump is flirting with dropping out of the debate.  If he does, Harris needs to use the time.  Trump is doing exactly zero to court voters in the middle, and she could have a great opportunity to reach people.  I think Trump would be making a huge mistake by not debating, and I think she may be the one who doesn't need it.  I think, obviously, she needs to appear to want to do it no matter what.

- Has she scheduled a national TV interview yet?  She said she would by the end of the month.  She really needs to do that because it's an attack that the right will continue to use on her.  And it's an attack that I think is hitting her.  I know she's trying to campaign as much as possible, but she needs to make this a priority.  And I think she should do a bunch of interviews if she can.

- She and Walz are doing a bus tour of Georgia.  Georgia is the only state that she's behind in the 538 polling average so I'm interested in what her campaign is thinking.  Do they think there's huge gains they can make in Georgia?  I would think that something like this could be more effective in places like Pennsylvania or even North Carolina, but maybe there's plans for that too.  Best case scenario for democracy is for her to sweep all seven battleground states, but Georgia makes me nervous because of all of the control that Republicans have over the election process.  I think it's the state that's most likely to be flipped.  I'll be interested to see if the bus tour works (Trump is also focused on Georgia so maybe she can just play defense and make Trump focus on Georgia which could help her in Pennsylvania).

You're going to drive yourself mad with these dumb polls.  Here's something, Gallup just released a poll where enthusiasm, however they're measuring that, is now at 78% among Democrats, an unheard of number, and 46% with Republicans.  In general, the polls are very close to 2020 in the swing states.  The national average is not, but that's because RCP for instance takes forever to roll recent polls into the avg.  My feeling is that Harris is ahead of Clinton '16, but trailing Biden '20.  One factor in those races were third parties.  They received nearly 6% of the vote in 2016, which was a killer for Hillary, and then just 1.5% which greatly helped Biden.  Trump in now a third election, remains marooned at the 46-47% mark.  With RFK Jr. basically out, I think the "other" vote total could be as low as 2% now.  That could allow Harris to get into the 50.5% range, with Trump "growing" to 47-47.5%.  That would make many of these battleground states insanely razor thin.  I still like her polling in MI, WI, and yes NV, a notoriously difficult state to poll.  Demographics give Harris a chance in NC and GA, but I'm not confident there at all.  I think she has a better chance with AZ.  That leaves PA, which I fear is absurdly close, and could be decided by hundreds of votes.  Have I driven you madder?

Harris and Walz first interview sit down with CNN is coming soon.  She was of course attacked by GOP for having a dual sit down, when EVERY OTHER campaign including Trump Pence did the same thing. 

Harris agenda is all over the place, even I can't keep up.  Still, I feel like she's taking a page out of Trump's book, and just pandering.  And why not?  Worked for him.

BTW, Harris strategy to campaign in rural areas is terrific.  You need to cut down the red margins in those places!  This is the Obama strategy, and of course, the opposite of what Hillary did and paid for.

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ireactions wrote:
Grizzlor wrote:

The young female-led, almost nonstop, social media cancel police from the left is completely un-American

Can you identify any representatives of this subgroup of Democrats you're highlighting and who they've cancelled over what? Because without clarification, this just comes off as a remark from someone who is scared of girls and young people.

The rest seems like reasonable opinion. I mean... it is going to be a close election.

Well Carville is a tad crass, and he generalized that to be, "don't eat hamburgers, don't watch football, don't drink beer."  Referring to the problem as ""The message is too feminine." 

Gina Carano is a prominent example.  She refused to conform to the pronoun police, and lost her job.  The backlash to corporate wokeness nearly put Bud Light out of business, and recently threatened to take Harley-Davidson of all things down, too.  It's not specific Democrat Party language but many of them have been caught in it.  The George Floyd/BLM demonstrations frequently turned violent, and Joe Biden was often the ONLY major party leader condemning it, that included Kamala who stupidly created bail programs which were used by violent criminals.  There was also a firing line, both by Democratic leaders, pundits, members of the press, pointing to anyone who attempted to suggest a lab leak on COVID, as well.  Then you have civic leaders of major cities, who hide tributes to Founding Fathers and other past American leaders, out of fear of the woke left, while they allow rampant mentally compromised homelessness, and continue to be blind to repeat violent criminals who seem to be unable to be kept in prison. 

Again, I felt like Kamala Harris spoke to some of this, but it's not where the larger party has been.  That's why I said it is difficult to argue with Robert Kennedy Jr.'s dismay with the left and its clamp down on free speech.  And yes, the party's platform has been a problem with blue collar men in this country.  It's soft on crime (bail reform, condoned shoplifting), far too supportive of migrants, and well too entrenched in the "equity" game.  Men see all this, and get very concerned over their collective future, especially economically.  That's at least how I can best explain it.  This is why I feel like a lot of men have gone to Trump.  I have many, many anecdotal examples of people I know.  And as Carville continues to harp, the identity politics from the far left have been a major burden to this party nationally.  Kept alive only by the far WORSE of the right.  These were principles that Bill Clinton led on decades ago, where have they gone?  The party has allowed the dumb left to hijack it.  Again, thank goodness for Kamala willing to go with American Exceptionalism in her speech.  Enough with the left's overt hatred of America because it keeps them in business, the business of racial identity politics.

In any event, it's really irrelevant at this point.  There's two months left, I'm not sure there's many minds left to change.  RFK Jr. probably should have been allowed to at least speak to Kamala.  His ideas on food safety, microplastics, and climate change are very critical to the Democratic agenda.  Unfortunately, because he questions the efficacy of the pharmaceutical industry, he is person non grata.  I still don't think it will matter much in this election, but it might.  Either way, it's something that is bubbling out there.  The FDA, USDA, CDC, and EPA are close to useless.  The American people are poisoned to death.  Just look at the incredible growth in cancer diagnoses among younger and younger age groups, who don't abuse alcohol or use tobacco products.  Something needs to be done.  It's an issue that I highly doubt Trump will give much oxygen to, which is why Kennedy is an idiot, but I do believe that if he did, that's a much stronger platform than he had a week ago.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

By the way, I hope you will accept my apologies for how I took your language the other day, Grizzlor. I think both a combination of being on a high from the DNC and the way discussions went at that time led to that result and a confusing misinterpretation of the conversation on my side. And for that, I apologize.

None of that bothers me, you have to see the group texts I have with "MAGA" friends of mine!  The old saying goes, to know one's enemy, blah blah blah, from Sun Tzu's Art of War.  I purposely seek out what the other side are saying, as well as independent sources.  If you ignore their opinions and viewpoints, then you become something like the Hillary campaign, which was caught entirely flat-footed and lost.  That's why I keep harping on inflation and immigration, because there are issues that people who don't have a ton in common with conservatives, yet they value those and will vote for them.  One cannot simply disregard them, because after you've lost, and you're wondering what the hell just happened, it's better to sniff these things out, and adjust. 

The Democratic Party, as the great James Carville says, has a "male problem."  Just as Trump is disgusted by 2/3 of the women in the country, Democrats continue to be unable to "speak to men," particularly those aged 25-44 and older.  They're too preachy, too in your face with, "you can't say this, you can't do that," and men don't like it.  Too late for this election, but it's something they need to do an about face on.  The young female-led, almost nonstop, social media cancel police from the left is completely un-American, and has chased so many from the party.  It's why, even if Harris wins, it will be by the skin of her teeth.  She's going to get clobbered with male voters, pray not as badly as Clinton did.

Kamala gave a speech that Reagan would have enjoyed.  In turn, RFK Jr. did in fact suspend his campaign.  He's pulling his name from 10 "battleground states," but keeping him on the rest.  He endorsed Trump for three main reasons.  First, how he was treated by the media and the DNC as well as the courts.  There's no question that, despite what Kennedy's positions were, he was given no quarter by the Democratic Party, and the media largely blocked him.  Granted he had low support percentage wise, but it's a continued problem with both parties.  They purposely craft rules to keep only the select candidates from running.  Granted, the other guy Dean whatever his name was, he was able to get on the ballot for DNC.  Biden was never going to debate him, but he also got almost no votes, and the media barely gave him the time of day.

The 2nd reason were the "forever wars," in particular Ukraine and Israel.  One can debate that till we're green in the face, but there's no doubt that Donald Trump is a rampant isolationist.  And so they are compatible on that.

The 3rd reason, Kennedy said, was that his long time cause for removing chemicals from the food supply (and of course vaccines).  Now this is the one that makes no sense.  Granted I am 100000% with him on food processing, a completely unnecessary process that involves additives which are making people obese and sick and do NOT happen in most of the rest of the world, as they don't allow this.  The vaccines are another story, but to pretend that Trump is going to stick a knife into the food corporations is completely comical.  He won't do squat, nor would he ever challenge big pharma.

Anyway, as I stated the other day, I do not believe RFK's endorsement will do much of anything.  If Ukraine is THAT much of a problem for you, you're already with Trump.  Nobody cares about who the DNC or RNC allows to get onto primary ballots.  However, the "free speech" aka anti-woke crowd is again, already converted to Trump.  Food processing and forced vaccinations, regardless where one stands on those, are not major issues.  The food one should be, but this is America after all.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I basically watched nothing from the DNC this week - it's just been a bad week for down time.  Sounds like Harris' speech was good enough.  I saw a little roundtable of undecided Pennsylvania voters, and all but two of them were convinced to vote Harris after the speech.

She said she would schedule a national TV interview before the end of the month.  Hopefully she does that - it's free publicity for her and super important, especially coming off the DNC.

Night 3 was pretty good.  Bubba went a bit off script and rambled.  Tim Walz was great. 

Night 4 was superb.  Steady stream of successful governors, Republicans, even cops.  Kamala gave what I would call a "I'll run through a brick wall for you" speech.  When I was screaming for Joe Biden to get off the train tracks, like most I really had no clue what to expect from the VP.  The instant super star rise in the polls was a massive surprise.  Really amazing just how many topics she covered in that speech, barely missing a beat.  There was something for everyone, but the most forceful I felt was when she spoke about keeping a "lethal military" and defending allies and standing up to dictators.  Wow, look out world, you do NOT want to mess with this woman!!!!!

I would say the theme coming from this convention is clear, Donald Trump is old, withered, and mentally bankrupt.  As it should be.  He is in serious trouble on September 10th.

Supposedly RFK Jr. is dumping his financially bankrupt campaign about an hour from now.  Most believe he will then appear alongside Trump in Phoenix, although this hasn't been confirmed.  If he does that, frankly, he will need a divorce lawyer.