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Grizzlor wrote:
QuinnSlidr wrote:

Mr. Grizzlor.....where's all your criticism about Trump's mental decline which has been a consistent concern?

You can't criticize Biden without criticizing Trump as well.

Otherwise, that makes you a hypocrite.

I criticize Trump's mental health constantly.  He's been clinically insane for years.  Republicans don't care.  Also, his insane speeches get zero media coverage while Biden (the actual President) is getting headlines.  If Biden drops out, the focus shifts to that whacko.  Trump's jerkoff behavior is not going to lose him votes.  He's lost whatever he could already. 

George Clooney, who just hosted a massive fundraiser for Biden, came out against his fitness, and the Biden WH responded by claiming Clooney left the event and Biden took photos for 3 hours.  They sound like Trump.  We all saw the video where Obama "helped" Biden off the stage. 

MSNBC's Chris Hayes basically doesn't think he can win. 
https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/stat … 4195930321

Swing district Dems in my backyard, Biden now in trouble in.
https://twitter.com/JSweetLI/status/1811131360435917069

Chuck Schumer ready to jump ship.
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/schume … 4-election

The Biden debate fiasco wouldn't have mattered, if there weren't already major contention over whether he could finish out a 2nd term.  Why should voters be pressed into electing someone who is highly unlikely to do so, as he'll be 86.  His approval ratings are awful.  And Biden continues to run many, many points weaker in swing states as the down ballot Dems are.  What you've had is a long standing concern amongst Democrats about Biden's chances.

Can you please point out the posts on this board in which you criticize Trump? Because I don't see any scrolling past this entire page. It's all Biden bad, Biden bad, Biden bad.

Not a single word about how terrible Trump's mental health has declined.

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Trump (Hitler) shows far more of a mental decline compared to President Biden at rally last night.

Does the media say a word about it? No.

Let's just keep talking about President Biden, whose mental decline was far less.

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But sure, let's talk about President Biden's supposed "mental decline".

Trump's (Hitler's) is far worse.

https://x.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1810854084544712831

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https://x.com/ArtCandee/status/1810850893618704877

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https://x.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1810797929562787943

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https://x.com/KevinPWalling/status/1810796209608458526

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https://x.com/kajakallas/status/1810957583882068455

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lol lol lol lol lol

https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1810843909808849025

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https://x.com/dcpoll/status/1810835198608621763

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https://x.com/ChanninHolland/status/1810834676790989293

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Just because a defendant withdrew a case because of threats of death against her and had to use a pseudonym because of that doesn't make it false, Snopes.

He's still a child rapist and it is highly substantiated with court documents and multiple witnesses showing that Trump and Epstein both participated in the rapes.

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Pretty much...

https://x.com/CoffeyTimeNews/status/1810293433455542618

https://x.com/honeysuckleknol/status/18 … 8951934213

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Yep....

https://x.com/RogerZenAF/status/1810343597981499431

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Exactly!!

https://x.com/mmpadellan/status/1810260036482220155


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Mr. Grizzlor.....where's all your criticism about Trump's mental decline which has been a consistent concern?

You can't criticize Biden without criticizing Trump as well.

Otherwise, that makes you a hypocrite.

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Looking forward to your new book, Annie!!

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Keep calling them out to their faces, Mr. President!! You will always have my vote!

https://x.com/D_jeneration/status/1809349394359013560

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BREAKING: New CNN polling shows 91% of Democrats are enthusiastic about supporting President Biden. Main stream media is wholly out of touch with where the Democratic base is.

https://x.com/BidensWins/status/1810003377859829818


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President Biden now leads Trump by 5 percent in Michigan, and 3 percent in Wisconsin. The President's margin has grown 4% in both Michigan and Wisconsin.

Let's go!!!


https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/18 … 3054820493


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pilight wrote:

Even if you think Biden is OK now, do you think he'll remain OK for the next four years?  He should not be running.

I don't discriminate based on age. Unlike some others, apparently.

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I for one don't buy into the BS narrative, and I see zero problems with President Biden. I'm staying the course with my vote:

https://youtu.be/EeWzlSR5oCc?si=M9LMVxGgjsBo5c0y

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Yep....beware of those who you don't know 100% their voting desires....


https://x.com/cbouzy/status/1807419512662130802


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ireactions wrote:

Slider_Quinn21, what polls are you referring to?

Also, I don't think post-debate polls are going to be meaningful in sample size or reach or accuracy for several weeks. But generally, debates have a negligible impact.

Biden is speaking tonight on the Supreme Court decision that former presidents and presidents enjoy broad immunity against prosecution and official acts can't be used as evidence in prosecuting unofficial acts... and I have to wonder if this offers any path towards Supreme Court reform if Biden effectively has total immunity to the end of his term.

Well, there is certainly nothing wrong with President Biden tonight too. However they prepped was not the right call and was not the right way to prep this time around. Cold or not, I have to wonder if their prepping methods are to blame on some level.

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ireactions wrote:

This Washington Post article is paywalled, but eight Biden aides spoke anonymously with the Post. They report that their debate prep for Biden had prepared for every single question Biden ended up facing on debate night. Their practice sessions were detailed and meticulous, and readily anticipated pretty much every topic and situation.

In the sessions, the president still spoke haltingly. He sometimes confused facts and figures. He tripped over words and meandered. Debate prep would not fix his stutter or make him appear any younger, aides knew. Every topic he was asked about Thursday, he had practiced answers for — including the final one about his age.

Biden's team knew what was coming, and they had planned for all of it with the president.

So aides were bewildered by his performance. Many felt they had never seen him collapse so dramatically. After all, Biden was a veteran of numerous debates — as a senator, vice-presidential nominee and presidential candidate. And they did not understand why he gave an entirely different answer on the age question than the one they spent more than a week perfecting.

But with another debate scheduled for September — a Biden campaign spokesman said the president would not withdraw from it — aides and allies are scrutinizing the president’s preparation for last week’s debate to figure out if they missed signs of what would unfold in CNN’s Atlanta studio.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … ing-event/

President Biden had to fact-check a debate that had no fact checkers or any moderation to speak of, in addition to being sick, when faced with an onslaught of lies from Trump every second of the debate. Of course any person would falter in that scenario. CNN should be ashamed of themselves for how they conducted it.

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ireactions wrote:

Biden gave another great speech in NYC:
https://www.youtube.com/live/B7NyV_EENF … &t=597

Biden tries to calm nervous donors:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/2 … p-00165933

Biden insider confesses that following the debate, Biden felt "humiliated, devoid of confidence and painfully aware that the physical images of him at the debate — eyes staring into the distance, mouth agape — will live beyond his presidency, along with a performance that at times was meandering, incoherent and difficult to hear. 'It’s a mess,' this person said."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e … rcna159591

ireactions is fond of Joe Biden and shakes nervously.

Agreed. I'm nervous about this but at least some signs are showing that it's not hurting President Biden as much as initially thought.

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They're talking about Latino voters but that's a huge vote that needs to be secured so it's good news.

I believe that the media and the policy wonks and all who concentrated on Biden's performance and not Trump's but it looks like a lot of fence sitters, from what I'm seeing online in social media are now more determined than ever to vote for Biden because they don't want Trump in office. They don't care that Biden had a bad night they focused on what Trump was saying. And some of what he said on the debate stage is he was going to use the military to go in and raid all their communities and deport people.

Even though the debate for the first 30 minutes was pretty bad it looks like it may not have had a negative effect on Biden's election chances.

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Undecided voters say they now support Joe Biden after debate.......

https://x.com/Newsweek/status/1806707486340071563

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Holy cow.  If this guy was consistently showing up, Biden would be crushing it.  If he'd shown up in the debate, it would've been a totally different story.

We need *much* more of this in a *very* public forum, and the criticisms of him will fall apart.

Exactly. What a day to get a cold.

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All is not lost. THE President Biden...today...

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1806741275246518312

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:
QuinnSlidr wrote:

This will not change my vote one iota. It's still democrat - straight down the ticket.

Well, yeah.  This, forever.  Nothing about last night could've changed that.  Biden has my vote, and I'll enthusiastically vote for him.  One thing that made me sad a little bit is that Biden from 8-12 years ago would've wiped the floor with Trump last night.  He wouldn't have let Trump get away with any of that BS.  But he's lost his fastball.  Pitchers can pitch for a decade after they lose their fastball, but sometimes, people need their fastball.

I'm with Biden until the end.  I would just feel a little better if there was someone else running.  As I said, that person couldn't just be anyone, and that isn't happening in either way.  So it doesn't really matter either way.

Trump (Hitler) lied and lied and lied and lied and lied. That is not being on point. A true lunatic in every sense of the word.

Oh for sure (and I referenced that).  But I don't think him lying is good enough for Biden to score points.  We know Trump lies, and a decent amount of the voter base doesn't care.  The ones that do may not know he's lying.  Without a true live fact check, there's no way for viewers to know what's true and what isn't.  I assume well-educated people know that no states allow post-birth abortions, but I don't know if everyone knows that.  When Trump says garbage about the successes he's had, people may not know better.

What Biden needed was for Trump to not be a liar but to be crazy.  He seems to go on these weird rambling stories when he does rallies, and it turns people off (even MAGA people).  A lot of times, MAGA people leave his rallies early because they're tired of hearing him ramble on about sharks and showers.  Debates aren't really a good format to expose people to that, but it's the best chance that people have to see what a lunatic he is.  I was truly hoping he'd say some bizarre nonsense because I think that's the best way to peel off people from Trump.  They might even know he's a liar, but they need to also know that he's crazy.

There's another debate.  If Biden does well in the next one, this one won't matter.

Oh, I know your vote. I know that a lot of dems are nervous about last night. And deservedly so. But I think some of the assessments about President Biden are way out there and reek of propagandist junk, because they don't take into consideration the reality of some of what transpired.

I don't think Biden lost his fastball. I think his hands were tied by a couple of issues - namely, CNN's terrible moderation, his cold, and medication. I think if Biden were normal last night, he wouldn't have any issues and would have mopped the floor with Trump in more ways than one. I think he will show up 100% for the second debate and will (hopefully) be more prepared.

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The biggest problem with the debate are the following: Biden had a cold. He was also on medication for this cold.

Biden didn't do well at first and did better after because he has a severe stutter. He was sick. He was forced to fact check his opponent while also having to give his answer in 2 minutes. If you've ever known someone with a severe stutter, then that kind of time frame which includes having to try to get that much information out is incredibly difficult.

Shame on CNN for not fact-checking or moderating properly. Shame on them for letting Trump tell lies like "doctors taking babies out of womb at nine months and killing them," which forced Biden to be the fact checker. Biden shouldn't have to do the fact checking but because Biden was doing the fact checking while sick and having a severe stutter, he fumbled a lot until he could get control.

Please note: if you look at all of his previous appearances and presentations and speeches in the last 2 to 3 months you will not see any major issues including during the State of the Union.

He's also done an amazing job as President we have the number one economy in the world. The World Bank even says we're holding up everybody else. But sure - because of all the propagandist BS, let's judge him completely on one bad performance while he's sick, having to fact check his lying opponent, AND get his point out in 2 minutes with a severe stutter.

Maybe his four year record is what we should be looking at not how he performed during a SINGLE debate where had to fact check someone who is a lying POS every time they open their mouth.

This will not change my vote one iota. It's still democrat - straight down the ticket.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

It's going pretty bad so far.  Biden looks old and Trump has been staying on point and not acting like a lunatic yet.

Still lots of time but I'm not loving it so far.

Trump (Hitler) lied and lied and lied and lied and lied. That is not being on point. A true lunatic in every sense of the word.

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lol lol lol lol lol lol

https://x.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1799832693145739613

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Longtime Trump adviser Steve Bannon ordered to go to prison by July 1

The right-wing operative/podcaster and longtime Trump adviser must report to prison in less than a month.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sho … rcna155880

Nearly two years after Steve Bannon was found guilty of two counts of contempt of Congress, the right-wing operative/podcaster hoped an appeals court would undo what a jury already did. When that effort failed, Bannon faced the genuine possibility of incarceration.

That now appears increasingly unavoidable. NBC News reported:

A federal judge on Thursday ordered former Trump adviser Steve Bannon to report to prison on July 1 to begin a four-month prison sentence for defying subpoenas from the Jan. 6 Committee after a higher court rejected his appeal.

For those who might need a refresher as to how we arrived at this point, the one thing everyone involved in the process can agree on is that Bannon has important insights related to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He was in communications with then-President Donald Trump in the run-up to the insurrectionist riot, and he reportedly told the outgoing president, “It’s time to kill the Biden presidency in the crib.”

The day before the attack, Bannon seemed to know quite a bit about what was likely to happen, telling his podcast listeners: “All hell is going to break loose tomorrow. Just understand this: All hell is going to break loose tomorrow. ... All I can say is: Strap in. You have made this happen, and tomorrow it’s game day.”

With this in mind, it hardly came as a surprise that the bipartisan House committee investigating the attack issued subpoenas in September 2021, seeking information from key Trump insiders — and Bannon was at the top of the list.

When he refused to comply in any way, the House approved a resolution finding the GOP operative in contempt of Congress. As part of the same process, the Democratic-led chamber referred the matter to the Justice Department for possible criminal prosecution. In November 2021, Bannon was indicted by a federal grand jury, charged with one count of contempt and another involving his refusal to produce documents despite a congressional subpoena.

The criminal trial didn’t go especially well for the defendant: Bannon’s defense team called no witnesses, and the accused never took the stand. The jury only deliberated for about three hours before finding him guilty.

A few months later, U.S. District Court Judge Carl J. Nichols — also appointed by Trump — sentenced Bannon to four months behind bars, though the jurist said he could remain free while the appeals process continued.

As my MSNBC colleague Clarissa-Jan Lim explained in May, when a federal appeals court upheld Bannon’s conviction, he was left with few options.

Federal prosecutors told Nichols there was “no legal basis” for the continued stay. The jurist agreed and ordered Bannon to report to prison by next month.

The podcast host and his defense counsel will almost certainly continue to pursue appeals, though it appears increasingly inevitable that Bannon will soon be behind bars.

Complicating matters, Bannon is also slated to stand trial in New York City in September on charges related to his role in the “We Build the Wall” operation. In that case, he’s accused of helping defraud donors; he has pleaded not guilty. (Coincidentally, Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s hush money trial, is overseeing Bannon’s other case, too.)

Bannon also faced federal criminal charges four years ago, though he received a pardon from Trump on the president’s last day in office.

Another presidential pardon this year appears extremely unlikely.

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I think that republicans and Trumpers, in particular, tend to overestimate how much support Trump even has at this point. Because their minds operate on an entirely different reality from ours. This is the part that polling does not take into account. Polling assumes that all minds are equal, when in fact, that is not the case when all Trumpers listen to and want are "alternative facts" that fit their worldview.

Guaranteed not very many normal people who pay attention to the facts, and not Fox News's spins on the facts, are going to want to vote for a convicted felon for the President of the United States.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Convicted felon Donald John Trump.

And guilty on all 34 counts!!!

YEAH.

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Good summary of where we're at right now.

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1777797620674560199


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Sad to see. Like Grizzlor said, I don't like losing any quality science fiction TV. And I loved QL 2.0.

Sigh.

I still need to read that PDF from ireactions. I'm getting to it, ireactions!! Just been busy as of late more than I thought that I would be.

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Former Trump officials are among the most vocal opponents of returning him to the White House

https://apnews.com/article/former-trump … ce=Twitter

NEW YORK (AP) — Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper has called him a “threat to democracy.” Former national security adviser John Bolton has declared him “unfit to be president.” And former Vice President Mike Pence has declined to endorse him, citing “profound differences.”

As Donald Trump seeks the presidency for a third time, he is being vigorously opposed by a vocal contingent of former officials who are stridently warning against his return to power and offering dire predictions for the country and the rule of law if his campaign succeeds.

It’s a striking chorus of detractors, one without precedent in the modern era, coming from those who witnessed first-hand his conduct in office and the turmoil that followed.

Sarah Matthews, a former Trump aide who testified before the House Jan. 6 committee and is among those warning about the threat he poses, said it’s “mind-boggling” how many members of his senior staff have denounced him.

“These are folks who saw him up close and personal and saw his leadership style,” Matthews said.

“The American people should listen to what these folks are saying because it should be alarming that the people that Trump hired to work for him a first term are saying that he’s unfit to serve for a second term.”

Yet the critics remain a distinct minority. Republican lawmakers and officials across the party have endorsed Trump’s bid — some begrudgingly, others with fervor and enthusiasm. Many aides and Cabinet officials who served under Trump are onboard for another term, something Trump’s campaign is quick to highlight.

“The majority of the people who served in President Trump’s cabinet and in his administration, like the majority of Americans, have overwhelmingly endorsed his candidacy to beat Crooked Joe Biden and take back the White House,” said Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung.

Still, the Biden campaign has trumpeted the criticism of former Trump officials in statements and social media posts, hoping to convince at least some Republican voters — including those who backed other candidates during the GOP primary — that they cannot support his candidacy.

“Those who worked with Donald Trump at the most senior levels of his administration believe he is too dangerous, too selfish and too extreme to ever lead our country again — we agree,” said Biden campaign spokesman Ammar Moussa.

In many ways, the schism among former Trump officials is an extension of his time in the White House. Friction was constant as Trump’s demands ran into resistance from some officials and aides who refused requests that they found misguided, unrealistic and, at times, flatly illegal. Firings were frequent. Many quit.

Staff upheaval was particularly intense in the chaotic weeks after the 2020 election as Trump worked to overturn his election loss to Biden. Trump summoned supporters to Washington on Jan. 6, 2021, as his falsehoods about a stolen election became the rallying cry for supporters who violently breached the U.S. Capitol. Many people serving in the administration quit in protest, including Matthews.

Trump’s attempt to remain in office included a bitter pressure campaign against Pence, who as vice president was tasked with presiding over the count of the Electoral College ballots on Jan. 6. Trump was adamant that Pence should prevent Biden from becoming president, something he had no power to do. Pence had to flee the Senate chamber on Jan. 6 as rioters stormed the building to chants of “Hang Mike Pence!”

Pence recently said he “cannot in good conscience” endorse Trump because of Jan. 6 and other issues, despite being proud of what they achieved together.

And Pence is not alone.

Esper, who was fired by Trump days after the 2020 election, clashed with the then-president over several issues, including Trump’s push to deploy military troops to respond to civil unrest after the killing of George Floyd by police in 2020.

In a recent interview with HBO’s “Real Time With Bill Maher,” Esper repeated a warning that Trump is “a threat to democracy” and added, “I think there’s a lot to be concerned about.”

“There’s no way I’ll vote for Trump, but every day that Trump does something crazy, the door to voting for Biden opens a little bit more, and that’s where I’m at,” Esper said.

Among Trump’s most vocal critics are former aides who worked closely with him in the White House, particularly a trio who gained prominence testifying about the Jan. 6 attack and Trump’s push to overturn the election.

The group includes Matthews, former Trump White House communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin and Cassidy Hutchinson, a former top aide to Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows. They have given a series of interviews in recent months opposing their former boss.

“Fundamentally, a second Trump term could mean the end of American democracy as we know it, and I don’t say that lightly,” Griffin told ABC in December.

John Kelly, Trump’s former chief of staff, had his own long falling-out with Trump. Kelly, in a lengthy October statement to CNN, described Trump as “a person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators” and “has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

Olivia Troye, a former Pence adviser who left the White House in 2020, and former press secretary Stephanie Grisham, who resigned Jan. 6, are both outspoken critics who said they didn’t vote for Trump in 2020.

Even Bill Barr, Trump’s former attorney general who has not ruled out voting for him again, has referred to Trump as “a consummate narcissist” who “constantly engages in reckless conduct that puts his political followers at risk and the conservative and Republican agenda at risk.”

Still, the ranks of former Trump officials opposing his bid are greatly outnumbered by those who are supportive.

Linda McMahon, who headed the Small Business Administration under Trump, is co-chairing a major fundraiser for the former president on Saturday in Florida, along with former Trump Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross.

McMahon is also chair of the board of The America First Policy Institute, which is packed with supportive former Trump officials and has been described as an “administration in waiting” for a second Trump term.

The institute is headed by Brooke Rollins, Trump’s former domestic policy chief, and counts Pence’s national security adviser and retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg among its chairs, along with former Energy Secretary Rick Perry, Trump’s U.S. trade representative Robert Lighthizer, and former National Economic Council director Larry Kudlow.

Former acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker has campaigned for Trump, as has former Housing Secretary Ben Carson, who called him “a friend of America.”

Trump’s also got the backing of former acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell, former Interior Secretary and Montana Rep. Ryan Zinke, and Russell Vought, who ran Trump’s Office of Management and Budget.

Vought said in a post on X that Trump is “the only person I trust to take a wrecking ball to the Deep State.”

Trump supporters are also quick to dismiss critics in the party.

Carmen McVane, who attended Trump’s rally Tuesday in Green Bay, Wisconsin, said those who speak negatively against Trump or refuse to endorse are RINOs, or Republicans In Name Only, and will only help Biden and Democrats.

“There’s a lot of RINOs who don’t do what they’re supposed to do,” McVane said. “It’s time for everyone to back who we have and go full force ahead.”

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Here's the thing.  I think Trump is a wannabe dictator.  I think he is extremely dangerous, and I think he's willing to use his followers to go after people that threaten him.  Instead of using the police or the military, I think Trump wants to use his loyal followers to do his dirty work because (and he's been right so far), he has deniability in his actions.  If he ordered the military to attack the Capitol, then he's crossed the Rubicon.  If he nudges his followers in a certain direction, he can defend himself.

I think the pick-up truck is obviously in extremely poor taste.  I think it's extremely inappropriate for a presidential candidate to send that image out to the masses.  But when you compare it to what Kathy Griffin did with the beheaded Trump, I think it's pretty bland.  I think Trump is pretty evil, but I assume he didn't "tweet" it to his followers because he wants Biden dead or wants them to go after him.  I think he thought it was funny and that's it.  He's a child.

If they want to investigate the owner of the truck, that's fine.  But since the imagery isn't nearly as violent as what Griffin did and since I don't think Trump was legitimately threatening Biden, I think this is something that we (meaning those that are anti-Trump) should drop.

Kathy Griffin is a heroine. LOL. And she's all right in my book. She only did it to an inanimate object, for cryin' out loud.

Trump (Hitler) did it to a real photo of the President. Big difference.

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Unbelievable violent imagery from the EX-President:


https://x.com/patriottakes/status/17738 … 35916?s=20


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https://x.com/ruthbenghiat/status/17738 … 71704?s=20


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https://x.com/ruthbenghiat/status/17744 … 71626?s=20


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Exactly. "There aren't two sides to facts."

https://x.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/17741 … 89989?s=20

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We can't get complacent or think we wanted to leave one but the polls do not match the money donations or the actual special election voting this woman is a Democrat who ran on abortion and won by 30 points.

https://x.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/17728 … 32925?s=20

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Grizzlor wrote:

I saw some clips.  Sleepy Joe sounded like he was ready to rumble.  Trump spent the week hanging with Viktor Orban.

"Sleepy"? You do see why I think you're secretly a republican agent posing as a democrat?

Attacks on dems, attacks on Joe, insulting Joe, etc...

QuinnSlidr wrote:
ireactions wrote:

I have a request for QuinnSlidr.

The first time I ever heard of QUANTUM LEAP was through Temporal Flux back on the old Sci-Fi Bboard. I suppose it makes sense as QL was TF's show before SLIDERS.

Temporal Flux posted about how the "Mirror Image" finale of QUANTUM LEAP had seen a mixed reception among fans. However, there was some news: the QUANTUM LEAP novels published after the show's cancellation (published at a rate of 2 - 4 a year) were coming to an end, but their 17th and final original installment would come in February 2000 with a novel called "Mirror's Edge":

Mirror's Edge, by Carol Davis with Esther D. Reese
The last leap... ?

It's 1999 -- five years after the Leap that started it all. It's 1999 -- for Sam Beckett who has leaped into Joe Powell, one of the richest men in America, a potential presidential candidate, and a man who is used to getting his way.

It's 1999 for Al Calavicci, for Donna Alessi-Beckett, for all the people at Project Quantum Leap who know that Sam is in their present, home but yet not home. But the holes in Sam's Swiss cheese memory are starting to fill, the man in the Waiting Room is strangely, disturbingly calm, and Ziggy is dispensing information that can hardly be believed. Something is about to happen.

Something that will change Sam's life and the lives of those who love him -- forever.

"Mirror's Edge": the conclusion to the thrilling adventures based on the hit TV series.

The novel hit the shops shortly after SLIDERS had aired its series non-finale. Some Slideheads who were also Leapers thought "Mirror's Edge" might take the sting off with a post-"Mirror Image" story.

In the many, many, many years since then, I have always remembered this posting about a media tie-in novel that I never read regarding a TV show that I never watched.

The reason I've always remembered it: "Mirror's Edge" was the first time I had ever seen an unresolved live action story being addressed in another format. That fascinated me, and I later discovered STAR TREK novels that resurrected Captain Kirk, DOCTOR WHO novels that resumed the TV show storyline during the DW hiatus from 1987 to 2005, and wrote my own tie-in stories for SLIDERS. "Mirror's Edge" remains a beacon of media tie-ins in my personal, anecdotal experience.

However, I later did learn: some QL fans expressed frustration with "Mirror's Edge" for what they called false advertising. Despite being billed as a "conclusion", that turned out to just be referring to how this 17th book was to be the last. "Mirror's Edge", like every QUANTUM LEAP novel before it, takes place before the series finale of QL1.0. It is not a sequel to "Mirror Image".

However. While "Mirror's Edge" is set before "Mirror Image"; it is set at the very edge of "Mirror Image"; it is in fact a prequel seeking to offer context to the series finale that is either new or retconned. It tries to make "Mirror Image" more of a finale, retroactively, by telling a story set before it that attempts to better explain it.

Some fans were furious with the publisher and the authors. Primary author Carol Davis spoke with fans on fan forums and explained: due to diminished sales, the publisher had elected to end the QL book series and commissioned a final story. However, the licensing agreement with Universal had a stipulation: the publishers were not allowed to produce any novels set after the QL series finale. The studio didn't want a novel to potentially step on any territory to be left open for a potential TV movie or series revival.

Davis and the publisher were caught between the need to produce a concluding novel and the studio declaring that Davis' typewriter wasn't to produce a single page set after "Mirror Image". Davis came up with a solution. Her solution -- a prequel to "Mirror Image" -- is either tactical brilliance that would make a lawyer weep with joy or a weak gesture that is grossly inadequate.

I've always wondered what a QL fan unhappy with "Mirror Image" would think of "Mirror's Edge". would think of it if they read the book. "Mirror's Edge" is out of print, but here is a PDF and an ePub from Archive.org:

PDF: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zTRVtW … sp=sharing
EPUB: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t32dIK … sp=sharing

Will you read it and tell me what you think of it?

I would have asked Tom of Rewatch Podcast, but Tom actually likes the finale story that is "Mirror Image". "I like it, it made me feel good with the series ending where it did," he told me. "I know a lot of people don't like it, but I do. I will die on that hill!" I didn't think him the right person to read "Mirror's Edge" and tell me if it resolves his dis-satisfactions with "Mirror Image" because he wasn't dis-satisfied.

@ireactions - Absolutely. I will take a look and give this a read soon! I've always thought that Mirror Image did not resolve anything and was too open-ended of a cliffhanger for QL for me to ever be satisfied with it. I felt down-right ripped off and felt like there should have been a much better finale for an otherwise amazing series.

Back then, of course, you had to wait for the rerun of the show starting back at S01E01 to tape it on bulky VHS tapes (I had a library of shows I taped on VHS to watch over and over again until I lost interest and the VHS tapes were eventually thrown away - only to be picked up again years later via DVDs then via streaming). And yes, that included Sliders on tape. None of us back then had any inkling of the technology we would have access to nowadays with streaming every single show we have ever loved at our fingertips.

@ireactions - I just downloaded it and I will be reading through it this weekend. Looks like this will be a fun read based on what I have heard!!

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President Biden has raised the most money of any Presidential political candidate in history. Last night in the 9pm hour he raised more in that time frame than any political candidate in history.

Follow the money, not the polls.

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An amazing State of the Union Address from President Biden. Not a single flub, with plenty of attacks on rethuglicans and Trump (Hitler). Even the hecklers like MTG didn't cause any flubs.

Based on the cameras on MSNBC, nobody wanted to be a rethuglican in that room tonight.

Well done, Mr. President!!!

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

So what I'd really like to see (if we get to keep having elections in America) is for it to be okay for a sitting president to get primaried.  I don't see why a sitting president shouldn't have to defend his/her record, and I don't see how it's democratic to just keep a guy because he won last time.  Someone can be the right person for the job one election cycle and not the right person the next cycle.  And I think it's okay to admit that someone might've been good for four years, but someone else could be better.

"But how does it help unite the party behind one guy if there's a challenge?"

I mean open primaries happen for at least one party every year, and in most cases, both parties every 8 years.  In other words, 75% of primaries are open primaries.  I don't think Biden was any more hurt by facing an open primary in 2020 than he is now - in fact, you could argue it's worse.

Now I think it would encourage primaries to be friendlier.  I don't think it would help if Newsom or Warnock was attacking Biden on his age for three months.  But I think Biden facing his critics and seeing what the voters think is a good thing.  And if Biden was the man for the job, he'd win an open primary.  And a battle-tested Biden might be better prepared to face Trump.

I don't think it'll happen anytime soon, but I'd like to see it. 

I don't know what would've helped derail Trump.  I don't know if Haley had gone negative on Trump earlier if it would've made a difference.  I honestly don't know if the indictments would've made a difference either.  I think Mitch McConnell might've been the only one that could've stopped Trump, and it sucks that he didn't do that.

But I still think Trump is a unique specimen that won't easily be reproduced.  And maybe we'll never see anything like it again in our lifetimes.

Trump is never a good thing. It's also not about keeping a guy because "he won last time". Racism, Hitler-enablement and being a serial rapist is never okay. Bragging that you can murder somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue because you think you're so popular that they'll never do anything to you in terms of consequences is never okay.

Voting against Trump is about keeping fascism and literal Hitler out of the White House. I love Biden. He's done his job successfully and has continued to be effective as an amazing President. And he has earned my vote. So has Adam Schiff. And voting for our democracy over fascism is worthwhile (which I hope the bottom 3 generations turning voting age this year are aware of).

I voted democrat on Tuesday straight down the ticket, by the way. For Biden, and Schiff.

ireactions wrote:

I have a request for QuinnSlidr.

The first time I ever heard of QUANTUM LEAP was through Temporal Flux back on the old Sci-Fi Bboard. I suppose it makes sense as QL was TF's show before SLIDERS.

Temporal Flux posted about how the "Mirror Image" finale of QUANTUM LEAP had seen a mixed reception among fans. However, there was some news: the QUANTUM LEAP novels published after the show's cancellation (published at a rate of 2 - 4 a year) were coming to an end, but their 17th and final original installment would come in February 2000 with a novel called "Mirror's Edge":

Mirror's Edge, by Carol Davis with Esther D. Reese
The last leap... ?

It's 1999 -- five years after the Leap that started it all. It's 1999 -- for Sam Beckett who has leaped into Joe Powell, one of the richest men in America, a potential presidential candidate, and a man who is used to getting his way.

It's 1999 for Al Calavicci, for Donna Alessi-Beckett, for all the people at Project Quantum Leap who know that Sam is in their present, home but yet not home. But the holes in Sam's Swiss cheese memory are starting to fill, the man in the Waiting Room is strangely, disturbingly calm, and Ziggy is dispensing information that can hardly be believed. Something is about to happen.

Something that will change Sam's life and the lives of those who love him -- forever.

"Mirror's Edge": the conclusion to the thrilling adventures based on the hit TV series.

The novel hit the shops shortly after SLIDERS had aired its series non-finale. Some Slideheads who were also Leapers thought "Mirror's Edge" might take the sting off with a post-"Mirror Image" story.

In the many, many, many years since then, I have always remembered this posting about a media tie-in novel that I never read regarding a TV show that I never watched.

The reason I've always remembered it: "Mirror's Edge" was the first time I had ever seen an unresolved live action story being addressed in another format. That fascinated me, and I later discovered STAR TREK novels that resurrected Captain Kirk, DOCTOR WHO novels that resumed the TV show storyline during the DW hiatus from 1987 to 2005, and wrote my own tie-in stories for SLIDERS. "Mirror's Edge" remains a beacon of media tie-ins in my personal, anecdotal experience.

However, I later did learn: some QL fans expressed frustration with "Mirror's Edge" for what they called false advertising. Despite being billed as a "conclusion", that turned out to just be referring to how this 17th book was to be the last. "Mirror's Edge", like every QUANTUM LEAP novel before it, takes place before the series finale of QL1.0. It is not a sequel to "Mirror Image".

However. While "Mirror's Edge" is set before "Mirror Image"; it is set at the very edge of "Mirror Image"; it is in fact a prequel seeking to offer context to the series finale that is either new or retconned. It tries to make "Mirror Image" more of a finale, retroactively, by telling a story set before it that attempts to better explain it.

Some fans were furious with the publisher and the authors. Primary author Carol Davis spoke with fans on fan forums and explained: due to diminished sales, the publisher had elected to end the QL book series and commissioned a final story. However, the licensing agreement with Universal had a stipulation: the publishers were not allowed to produce any novels set after the QL series finale. The studio didn't want a novel to potentially step on any territory to be left open for a potential TV movie or series revival.

Davis and the publisher were caught between the need to produce a concluding novel and the studio declaring that Davis' typewriter wasn't to produce a single page set after "Mirror Image". Davis came up with a solution. Her solution -- a prequel to "Mirror Image" -- is either tactical brilliance that would make a lawyer weep with joy or a weak gesture that is grossly inadequate.

I've always wondered what a QL fan unhappy with "Mirror Image" would think of "Mirror's Edge". would think of it if they read the book. "Mirror's Edge" is out of print, but here is a PDF and an ePub from Archive.org:

PDF: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zTRVtW … sp=sharing
EPUB: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t32dIK … sp=sharing

Will you read it and tell me what you think of it?

I would have asked Tom of Rewatch Podcast, but Tom actually likes the finale story that is "Mirror Image". "I like it, it made me feel good with the series ending where it did," he told me. "I know a lot of people don't like it, but I do. I will die on that hill!" I didn't think him the right person to read "Mirror's Edge" and tell me if it resolves his dis-satisfactions with "Mirror Image" because he wasn't dis-satisfied.

@ireactions - Absolutely. I will take a look and give this a read soon! I've always thought that Mirror Image did not resolve anything and was too open-ended of a cliffhanger for QL for me to ever be satisfied with it. I felt down-right ripped off and felt like there should have been a much better finale for an otherwise amazing series.

Back then, of course, you had to wait for the rerun of the show starting back at S01E01 to tape it on bulky VHS tapes (I had a library of shows I taped on VHS to watch over and over again until I lost interest and the VHS tapes were eventually thrown away - only to be picked up again years later via DVDs then via streaming). And yes, that included Sliders on tape. None of us back then had any inkling of the technology we would have access to nowadays with streaming every single show we have ever loved at our fingertips.

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He will end our Democracy.

Those who emulate the mustached man never do good things in the world. Never.


https://i.postimg.cc/sxmstmrM/trump-hitler.jpg

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I'm sure there will be tons of campaign ads.  If Trump ever does a real debate, he'll be asked.  It doesn't matter, though, he'll wiggle out with some excuse that his people will believe.

At this point, I wouldn't count on anything impacting Trump outside of the New York trial being juicy enough to get people interested.  I think a lot of people, especially some of his Christian followers, might be turned off by some of the details coming out of that.

His faux "Christian" followers (despite the fact that they are all the antithesis of the name Christian), are not the ones to worry about. They are a very small minority at around a 23% portion of the overall republican vote.

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I wish the media was taking this and broadcasting it for every minute, every hour...


https://i.postimg.cc/GpJLrFtc/Screenshot-at-Feb-29-00-04-47.png

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The never-ending string puller behind Trump (Putin):


https://i.postimg.cc/xdSfWx0x/Screenshot-at-Feb-29-00-00-53.png

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ireactions wrote:

Every time I see the name "Desantis", I think, "Is that a typo? Isn't it spelled DeathSantis?" Then I realize what QuinnSlidr has done to me.

lol lol lol

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ireactions, Slider_Quinn21 - You both have extremely interesting analyses to ponder. I agree that crying wolf and lumping everyone into the Trump category can be dangerous.

Just so long as we're not using everything as an excuse to follow the old "lesser of two evils" argument, which I want to make sure we are not doing.

I need to think about this more in depth but so far, I believe both of you are on point.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Okay, but again, we can survive on bad policies.  If Trump just had bad policies, there's less to fear about him.  We've survived bad policies.  We've had a number of bad presidents that had bad policies, and we've survived four years with them.  We survived eight years of George W Bush who had some bad policies, but George W Bush did what he thought was best for the country and its people.

And we survived four years of Trump and his bad policies.  He ran for re-election, lost, and he tried to throw out our system of government, and he failed.

Bad policies I don't worry about.  What I worry about is anti-democratic promises.  This guy wants to shred the constitution, and that makes him uniquely dangerous.  Nikki Haley might have terrible policies, but she would do so in service of the Constitution and the American people.  Donald Trump does everything for himself.  We could survive four years or even eight years of Haley.  There might be some damage she leaves behind, but it wouldn't be anything that couldn't be undone or fixed.

Trump?  I don't know how long we survive under Trump.  And I don't know if the damage he leaves is repairable.  The damage he's already left might not be repairable for a while.

But we can't paint them with the same brush, or it weakens the entire argument.  I think there are a handful of GOP that I'm truly worried about if they get into power.  It's Trump, it's Kari Lake, its Ron Paul, and a few others that are absolutely insane.  If we just say everyone is Trump, then we're lying to ourselves.  There's one true threat to America right now.  And every enemy of our enemy is our friend.

(THE ABOVE IS JUST MY OPINION AND NOT THE OPINION OF SLIDERS.TV)

You do realize that I just posted all the evidence anyone should need that Nikki Haley is going to do that same thing, right?

1. Anti-reproductive rights bills that she signed - a.k.a. anti-democratic.
2. Anti-keeping migrant children with their parents - a.k.a. anti-democratic.
3. Anti-Trump impeachment - a.k.a. anti-democractic.

And more.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:
QuinnSlidr wrote:

A Haley win would spell death for democracy and the last free election in the United States. Exactly the same as a Trump win.

I think this is the kind of mindset we need to stay away from.  Trump is bad in a different way than Haley is bad.  They're both bad, but one is generationally bad.  One is just bad.

Liz Cheney (who is also bad but a different kind of bad) said that true conservatives should vote for Biden because W"e Can Survive Bad Policies But Not ‘Torching the Constitution’" (https://www.mediaite.com/news/liz-chene … stitution/).  I think we need to have the same mindset, or tribalism is going to destroy us.  Everyone can't be Trump.  We can't see boogeymen in every person we disagree with.

If Trump wins, we know he's compromised to foreign powers.  He's said he wants to be a dictator.  He's shown admiration towards authoritarian leaders.  We know what he wants to do and the threat he presents.

Haley has never said any of these things.  She's spoken out against the way Trump treats Putin.  She's supported Ukraine.  She's spoken out against Trumpism and the cult of MAGA.

She'd be bad on a lot of social issues.  She'd probably be bad on the border.  But she's never shown any anti-democracy tendencies as far as I'm aware.  And if we say everyone is Trump and everyone is as bad as Trump, then we hurt our argument that Trump is a unique villain that must be defeated.  We can't use the same type of hyperbole that Trump uses to rile people up.  We need to be truthful and honest.

(If Haley has ever shown anti-democratic tendencies or spoken about wanting to be a dictator, I'm happy to be shown that).

Sure. Here you go. I think it's a mistake to think a softer voice is somehow better. It's not. Just a wolf in sheep's clothing.

https://www.salon.com/2023/02/15/despit … e_partner/

Despite attempts to distance from Trump, critics say “make no mistake: Nikki Haley is no moderate”

"The same politics of lies and division that Trump used, just in a softer voice," says Rev. Dr. William Barber II

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Following former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley's launch of her 2024 presidential campaign Tuesday, progressives cautioned that while the Republican has spent years cultivating a so-called "moderate" public persona, her policy positions make it abundantly clear that as president, she would promote a right-wing agenda similar to the Trump administration, in which she served for nearly two years.

Haley, who also served as South Carolina's governor before joining the administration of former President Donald Trump in 2017, has advanced right-wing policies both domestically and abroad, and since leaving public office four years ago, has used her platform to promote "extreme hardline positions on foreign policy," wrote Daniel Larison at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.

The Republican has strived to center her response to the 2015 Mother Emanuel AME Church shooting in Charleston by a white supremacist as evidence of her moderation, including in her campaign launch video footage of the speech she gave weeks after the massacre when signing a bill to remove the Confederate flag from the grounds of the state capitol.

Progressive strategist Sawyer Hackett noted, however, that moments earlier in the video she denied that the deep history of institutional racism has contributed to persistent inequality in the United States.

"Make no mistake: Nikki Haley is no moderate," said Christina Harvey, executive director of progressive advocacy group Stand Up America. "From her support of Trump's policy of putting children in cages and the regressive reproductive health policies she pushed as governor of South Carolina to her opposition to federal voting rights legislation and her unwavering support of Donald Trump—even after he incited the January 6 insurrection—Nikki Haley has shown her true colors."

During her six years as governor of South Carolina, Haley signed anti-reproductive rights bills including one that banned abortion care after 19 weeks of pregnancy, with no exceptions for pregnancies resulting from rape or incest.

With anti-abortion rights Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis expected to also announce a run for the GOP presidential nomination, NARAL Pro-Choice America president Mini Timmaraju said the primary is already becoming "a race to the bottom."

"Whether it's serving in Donald Trump's Cabinet or signing an extreme abortion ban into law, Nikki Haley's record is chock full of red flags," said Timmaraju. "Haley's views on abortion are just as extreme as others gunning for the Republican nomination, and we look forward to working alongside our members to defeat the Republican nominee, whoever it may be."

Haley's campaign launch ad also included a claim that President Joe Biden is promoting a "socialist" agenda, which Poor People's Campaign co-chair Rev. Dr. William Barber II interpreted as an attack on those who "believe in living wages, voting rights, and healthcare for all."

During Haley's two years as U.N. ambassador under the Trump administration, she was a strong proponent of the president's so-called "zero tolerance" policy under which thousands of migrant children were separated from their parents and guardians, Trump's push to pull out of the U.N. Human Rights Council, and the administration's decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal.

Though she briefly criticized Trump for inciting the mob that attacked the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 in an effort to stop the certification of the 2020 presidential election results, Haley soon after defended the former president and called on Democratic lawmakers to "give the man a break" as they impeached Trump for a second time.

"When we needed leaders to stand up for our democracy and our freedoms, Haley fell in line with Donald Trump, again and again," said Harvey. "That's exactly the opposite of what our country needs. Unfortunately, it doesn't make her unique. Whether the Republican nominee is Nikki Haley, Donald Trump, or someone else, there will likely be a MAGA Republican with a track record of undermining our democracy on the GOP ticket come November 2024."

At the Quincy Institute, Larison wrote that Haley's effort to cast herself as a moderating voice in the Republican Party while also defending the former president has left her "with no obvious base of support" and has likely rendered her a long-shot candidate.

"There is so little daylight between Haley's own positions and those of Trump that it will be difficult for her to criticize anything he did as president," Larison wrote. "Haley's foreign policy record is bound up with Trump's to such an extent that she will struggle to distinguish herself from him."

Barber called on voters to focus on "the main message: None of the Republicans planning on running disagree with Trump on policy."

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ireactions wrote:

This YouTuber, Farron Cousins, has explained why Trump's chances of winning are doomed, but noted that Haley has the numbers to beat Biden.

It sounds like Democratic fan fiction to me, but this video helps me sleep at night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr98dRjx-NM&t=28s

Make no mistake. Nikki Haley is just as bad as Trump. Even if Trump loses, and Nikki wins, you're basically getting the female version of Trump.

She lies, and lies, and lies, and cannot be trusted. And will say anything to manipulate. She will fulfill the rethuglican party's christo fascist regime goals of taking the country back to the 1950s (some want the country taken back to the late 1800s).

Don't trust her.

A Haley win would spell death for democracy and the last free election in the United States. Exactly the same as a Trump win.

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Happy Unindicted President's Day!!!!

I know who I'm voting for!! The unindicted one!! wink


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By the way, this is being reported by FOX (Faux) News. When FOX News starts deriding Trump (Hitler), you know it's bad for him:

New presidential rankings place Obama in top 10, Reagan and Trump below Biden

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-presiden … elow-biden

A new ranking of presidents by a group of self-styled experts determined that Abraham Lincoln is America's greatest president, while Donald Trump ranks last.

Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey.

According to a release from the Presidential Greatness Project, which touts itself as the "foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics," the 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association…as well as scholars who have recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses."

The respondents were asked to rank presidents on a scale of 0-100, with 0 being a failure, 50 being average and 100 being great. Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five.

Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Peirce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41.

Respondents were also tracked by their political affiliation and ideology, which the release argues did not "tend to make a major difference overall" in the rankings, though there were some outliers, mainly with recent presidents.

Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and Trump were more likely to be ranked higher by conservatives or Republicans, with Reagan being ranked an average of 5th by Republicans respondents, Bush 19th and Trump 41st. Among Democrat respondents, Reagan was rated an average of 18th, Bush 33rd and Trump 45th.

A similar partisan divide was noticeable for Barack Obama and President Biden, who ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans. Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was ranked higher by Republican respondents (10th) than he was by Democrats (12th).

The divide resulted in an overall ranking of 7th for Obama, 12th for Clinton, 14th for Biden, 16th for Reagan and 32nd for Bush.

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I guess my "bubble" is limiting the anti-Biden rhetoric too much and thus makes me worthless. Who would have thought? I'll stay in my "bubble," thanks.

wink wink wink wink wink wink

Here are a few facts:


President Biden ranked 14th best president of all time in new survey:

https://x.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1759 … 35243?s=20


https://i.postimg.cc/YqbqgPTR/Screenshot-at-Feb-19-03-19-57.png


Trump ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked even worse than James Buchanan:

https://x.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1759 … 83336?s=20

https://i.postimg.cc/TPx76k38/Screenshot-at-Feb-19-03-21-56.png



Trump was ranked even worse than a POTUS who served for only 31 days before he died (William Henry Harrison):

https://x.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1759 … 92644?s=20

https://i.postimg.cc/hG4YmyWL/Screenshot-at-Feb-19-03-22-26.png

An outstanding first term from our amazing President Biden. Ranked the #14th President in all of history. And soon to achieve term #2.

big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile

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President Biden condemns republicans for taking two weeks off instead of supporting the National Security Legislation.

Hours after Navalny was murdered by Putin.


https://x.com/BidensWins/status/1758594 … 39580?s=20

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Again, I would like to point out that Grizzlor may be talking in general terms about what the average American understands about some of these things.  The average American doesn't watch MSNBC.  The average American doesn't know what the Lincoln Project is.  The average American probably doesn't have any idea the kinds of things that Trump says at rallies.  They might not know that Trump has continually confused Nancy Pelosi and Nikki Haley, because the average American might not really know who either of those people are.

I'll give you an example.  My wife and I don't talk about politics.  We never have.  Her family is conservative, but neither her nor her sister is openly political in any way.  We've been together nearly a decade, and we very rarely have ever talked about our political opinions or any political stories.  And one morning, I asked her if she knew about any of the Trump indictments and what they were about.  She had some guesses, and she eventually mentioned documents.  That's all she knew.  My wife is very intelligent and watches the morning news every morning (the local news and then the Today show).  She knew nothing about the criminal indictments of Donald Trump.  It's not that she is getting conservative talking points or she thinks its a scam or a witch hunt or whatever - she just doesn't know the details.

But since Biden is on TV a lot of days, she knows that Biden looks old and sounds old.  That's really all she knows.  And so my wife, a college graduate who watches the news every day, sees Biden looking old and knows nothing about Trump.

This is where the Biden campaign is going to have to get.  My wife, an average American, needs to know that Trump is on trial for hush money payments to a porn star he cheated on his wife with.  My wife needs to know that Trump doesn't support our European allies.  My wife needs to know that Trump was making fun of military service.  Not only that, my wife needs to know that Trump regularly gets people confused and goes on bizarre tangents.  My wife needs to know that Trump has promised mass deportations and to be a dictator on day one.

If they can reach my wife, I think Trump loses a ton of support.  We can't rely on the news to tell the story because my wife watches the news and she doesn't know.

All good points, Slider_Quinn21. It's difficult to reconcile the dualities that are present. And sometimes I forget that Grizzlor may be talking in those terms.

I think it would help to preface his posts with the following: "Please note that the following is not what I believe, and I voted for Biden. I have just taken on this persona to illustrate the thinking of the average Trump voter for the purposes of this argument."

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Meanwhile, in Russia: Mass arrests as waves of people protest Putin's murder of Navalny. Just as expected.

Meanwhile, on Twitter, Navalny is trending to the tune of well over 1 million posts. Even Musk can't censor Navalny.

I don't think this will be stopped, and people may end up storming the Kremlin if they have to. This will not stand. I don't think it will stand at all.

This is the vibe of democracy throughout the world. Republicans (a.k.a Putin's puppets) are done.


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mad mad mad mad mad mad


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Interestingly, Grizzlor does not appear to be interested in reporting on the following major incidents that happened in the past few days on the democratic side.

Including:

The informant who lied about all the Hunter Biden evidence (that was made up) has been arrested and charged with lying to the FBI about Hunter Biden:


https://x.com/LasVegasLocally/status/17 … 50633?s=20


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https://x.com/LasVegasLocally/status/17 … 44549?s=20


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Also, the fact that the 2000 mules movie is entirely a fraud as well because the group that was relied upon for this movie just admitted in court that it has ZERO evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing in the 2020 election:


https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/175 … 58633?s=20


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https://x.com/prolibshow/status/1757958 … 70600?s=20


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