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QuinnSlidr wrote:I am so glad Jerry didn't turn out to be a Trumper. Thank you Jerry for always being a champion of Democracy!!!
In 2016, after Trump won, Jerry tweeted, "America just elected Voldemort."
100% agreed.
Harris is now leading or close to Trump in every battleground state
I am so glad Jerry didn't turn out to be a Trumper. Thank you Jerry for always being a champion of Democracy!!!
Been seeing a bunch of articles that are talking about a Democratic pivot from calling MAGA "dangerous" to calling it "weird" and how that's a great idea. I do think there's a segment of MAGA that actually likes the idea that Democrats are scared of them.
But to be weird? That could be effective. I maintain that Democrats need to talk more about Trump's weirdness - how he's constantly bringing up Hannibal Lector. His bizarre rant about sharks and electric boats. When I linked that "You Should Go to a Trump Rally" article, it talked about how even some of Trump's biggest fans walk out of his rallies when he rambles on. I think the Harris campaign should be taking huge clips of these things and just playing them unedited as TV ads. People need to know that even if they don't think Trump is dangerous, he's certainly crazy.
Also, Trump hates being made fun of. I think he likes the idea that he's going to be this scary tyrant, but I don't think he wants to be thought of as old, weird, or crazy. That's what they need to do, and they can probably bait him into more weird or crazy behavior.
The baiting part would be fun. I think he's just going to do it himself and continue to sink him and his wrecking ball of a party even further as we continue to November.
This is not a fun time to be a Trump-loving rethuglican.
Okay good to know. I'm obviously sold but there are a lot of undecided voters still that she can reach. She's the younger, saner, pro-democracy candidate and people need to know that as much as possible in as many different avenues as possible
She should try and get on the Olympic broadcast. Now that MAGA is anti-Olympics, Trump would have to decline and she'd get the broadcast to herself.
Edit - apparently she appeared at a Simpsons panel for ComicCon which is exactly the type of place she needs to show up. Great work by her team.
Here are all the details:
My aunt is pretty active in Democratic politics (not important but active
) and she was on the big Harris call that broke Zoom. I think there's a lot of enthusiasm among women which is huge. I also think there are voters that are going to look at Trump the way they looked at Biden. Particularly if he has any slip-ups himself.
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Trump's "you're never going to have to vote again" comments went viral over the weekend. Scary stuff. All of Trump's buddies came on the Sunday shows to say that Trump was "obviously kidding" or whatever. What I legitimately don't understand about non-MAGA Republicans is this.
- Let's say that he comes out and says that he's kidding. What percent chance are people willing to take that he's going to overthrow democracy? 5%? 1%? 0.1%? 1 out of a thousand seems like a low chance, but are people really willing to take a 1 out of 1000 chance to vote to end democracy? And don't get me wrong - I think it's a much higher chance, but non-MAGA Republicans are so confident that the chance is 0% (obviously MAGA Republicans would be happy if Trump was a dictator). If he says stuff like this and then people vote for it, Trump would have a legitimate case to say "this is what the people wanted."
- I understand that guys like Graham and Cotton and Sununu are defending Trump because they think it benefits them. But what is Trump going to need the Senate for in a dictatorship? When has Trump ever repaid any of these guys for putting their neck out for him? These guys are spineless but they're intelligent. Trump would absolutely have any of them executed just for Trump's amusement. They know that, right?
- Let's pretend for a moment that Trump is a legitimate guy who actually loves America and doesn't want to ruin democracy for his own game. Why in the heck would he *ever* joke about it so many times when people already think he's a tyrant? At some point, even his supporters are going to start to believe him. Why would he intentionally keep veering into this image that is hideously unpopular even among Republicans?
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I would like to see Harris on TV more. There's so much free press that she could be getting, but I haven't really seen anything outside of the ads on YouTube. Is she doing enough press?
She is all over CNN, ABC News, the evening news, etc. There was a CNN documentary on her last night that was done really well.
Pete Buttigieg was on FOX News yesterday annihilating their interviewer, and clips of these interviews went viral on Twitter. (I refuse to update my naming convention to X).
Kamala's digital team (which was actually Biden's digital team) is kicking butt.
MSNBC, though, is doing their coverage of everything that's in Project 2025 all week. Which is important for voters to know about.
Not to brag, but I was lucky enough to meet Tracy himself at a party at his home at the time in the early 2000s. He was one of the coolest, most down-to-earth people one could ever hope to meet. I only wish things could have taken off from there. I would have loved to have worked as a writer on a Sliders reboot or something of that nature. Alas, Hollywood would not be in my future.
I still don't think I'm over his death. This one hit really hard. Also, no one knows about this but I always wrote my own scripts of Sliders episodes that I never shared with anyone. I had a few good ones in the pipeline too. A lot of my writing has been inspired by him.
I'm still confident I could bring Tracy Torme's original vision of Sliders back to the screen if I were ever given an opportunity.
RIP Tracy. You did good. A lot of it.
LOL. Now the right is trying to get people to cancel Netflix because Reed Hastings has donated $7 million to Kamala Harris.
It's a little early, but some of the state-level polling for Harris looks pretty good. Winning in Wisconsin, essentially tied in Michigan, and within the margin of error in Pennsylvania. Within striking distance in Georgia and Nevada. Arizona still looks out of play, but maybe if they pick Kelly, that could change.
But that's very encouraging. Trump's internal team sent out a memo that said to expect some sort of "honeymoon phase" with Harris that would improve her polling. Funny thing is that Trump's polling is also up post-shooting and post-convention so Harris was basically able to match that, and she hasn't had the convention yet.
Now she's going to have to nail these rallies and her convention speech and the debate. There's still a lot of work to do. But a couple of weeks ago, we were absolutely trending towards a Trump win. Now, there's a decent shot for Harris to win the blue wall and maybe another state or two to pad a win. Which is absolutely what the country needs.
She is flipping Trumpers - hard right Trumpers.
I think we're going to see something different this election. I'm cautiously optimistic to make sure not to make my own mistake of too much optimism a la 2016. But the excitement of the democratic party right now I think has surpassed 2016 levels.
Be careful about presuming victory. The election is in November, not July.
I still cringe at my 2016 confidence and will never live it down.
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I am really going to miss those joyfully ridiculous Dark Brandon memes.
Indeed. Some of that was hyperbole. Actually. My confidence in 2016 was probably worse.
Trump (Hitler) is officially done. He might as well drop out now while he still has some pride left.
https://www.threads.net/@authentic.voic … AE9idcpfkQ
I just don't think a running mate gets you anything these days. Only can harm. Choose someone with experience who can take over day one.
Hilary barely won the popular vote. She figured it was over and went on cruise, plus focusing way too much on "social" causes instead of economics. Trump went all over blaring about them. And Comey's letter reinforced a widely held perception that she and Bill were far too deceptive. Awful candidate.
Kamala doesn't need pie in the sky slogans. Has to directly come after Trump like Elliott Ness going after Capone.
"Barely" is incorrect. Hillary won the popular vote by 2.9 million votes.
Something wrong with that picture when 2.9 million votes more than Trump (Hitler) doesn't get you the Presidency. That's why the electoral college must be abolished.
Grizzlor wrote:Finally, I have read that Trump campaign has NOT spent on the ground game. Instead, they are spending and organizing on an infrastructure to challenge vote counting, certification, the works. They don't care what the results are, if he's losing, they will make 2020 look like Cinderella.
This is why I wasn't comfortable with Biden staying in the race. I think his *ceiling* was 270-268. And that could've been impacted by nonsense happening on election day, mail-in ballots being stolen/destroyed, or any number of things. And that's before the election would be called and Trump's real work would begin.
I think Harris has a higher ceiling. Maybe she picks Kelly and they can win Arizona. Or Cooper and win North Carolina. Either way, she needs to win the entire blue wall and then pick up at least one or two sun belt states so Trump can flip a state post-election (thanks to all the MAGA people he's put in state legislatures, secretaries of state, etc, and the judiciary) and the result can still stand. I believe Trump can absolutely figure out a way to flip one state, but I think he'd struggle to flip much more than that even with the infrastructure he has.
But like 2020, this needs to be not only a win but a convincing-enough win that Trump can't get it overturned. And I think Harris can do that - I wasn't convinced Biden could.
Really hoping Harris can energize young voters, voters of color, and third party voters.
Considering the news of 94% of the democratic party rallying around Harris, that should be no problem. There is excitement for the democratic party in this election that hasn't been seen since 2016. In addition, I have seen more than one instance of hard right wing voters completely flipping from voting for Trump to voting for Harris.
Slider_Quinn21 wrote:Grizzlor wrote:He's done nothing officially. He'll be there, because if not, his entire "God's Impregnable Warrior" horse crap goes up in smoke. He had no problem debating Hilary, name calling and lying the entire time. Hilary won every debate, still lost the election.
Need I remind folks that Hillary won the popular vote, and thus should have won the election. Despite the fraud that is the BS electoral college.
The electoral college needs to be abolished.
Trump has already withdrawn from the debate....the guy is terrified of Harris....
"The Republican candidate said he would no longer take part in a TV debate scheduled for September."
And she's just getting started....
Harris has support of enough Democratic delegates to become party’s presidential nominee: AP survey
In the five hours since Kamala Harris was endorsed by Biden, small donors have contributed $27 million according to ABC Eyewitness News.
Kamala Harris:
I prosecuted sex predators. Trump is one.
I shut down for-profit scam colleges. He ran one.
I held big banks accountable. He's owned by them.
I'm not just prepared to take on Trump.
I'm prepared to beat him.
I hope this doesn't age poorly.
What aged poorly? All of it is the truth.
QuinnSlidr wrote:Make no mistake...I will vote for President Harris. But unless she chooses Pete Buttigieg...forget it. There is not enough on her side to win.
I mean Harris is basically polling identical to Biden now. I think some people won't vote for Harris, but I think there are a lot of people that wouldn't vote for Biden.
It's not a stutter. He looks old. He sounds old. And people have lost confidence that he can do the job, not just right now but in four years. People don't generally look or act younger as time goes on, and this isn't a race about who can do the job right now.
I'm not saying Biden can't win, but he really slipped up on the biggest stage. And the polling has really dipped in the last month. I don't know how he was going to convince people that he's not old. None of the work he did was turning things around, and we were nearing the point of no return.
Harris is young and energetic. She's a woman who can possibly energize women in the election during an election where women are already at the forefront. And if she can pick a strong VP, it could be a really good ticket. There are a bunch of "double haters" of Trump and Biden, and now the Democrats have an alternative for them both.
I'm not discouraged at all. I'm nervous, but I think we're in better shape right now than we were this morning. I'm going to be fascinated to see how the polls move now that it's not a hypothetical that Harris will run.
She also has energy over Trump. I can't wait to see both of them in a debate, actually. She will destroy him.
We. Are. F*cked.
All because a couple of dumb idiots can't handle a stutter or two - which hasn't changed. I hope you're all happy.
We could have won. We could have won. Enjoy another Trump term...because of Dem infighting, and Dem inability to accept age...there is no time to print enough mail in ballots for a new incumbent to prepare for November. There is no time to get a new incumbent in where we were now. We just lost 2024. And the entire democracy.
Eff all of you age discriminators. You brought this on yourselves. When you're complaining about fascism in 2025, remember, you caused it because you could not unite and accept age.
Make no mistake...I will vote for President Harris. But unless she chooses Pete Buttigieg...forget it. There is not enough on her side to win.
I will be happy to eat my words if I'm wrong. But I just can't see it. Not now. Not after all we have tried to fight for.
Over 14 million votes for President Biden just threw up their arms and quit today. They will never be voting in this election.
I've never heard more naive politicians in my life. You're going to overthrow the votes of 14 million people. The current candidate by the way also gets in white blue collar males. You're going to throw all those votes away. Then you have to add it by VP which people have to decide if they like or not.
Then we're only 69 days right now from the actual first votes -- 69 FREAKING DAYS!!
Then the Republicans will drag us through the courts how many more weeks do you lose because of that what right up to the election?
And we've wasted 4 weeks on this crap when we already had an elected candidate and the only reason they want to remove him is because he's old.
Because he passed all the cognitive and medical tests. Yes he had a very bad debate. But he hasn't had a bad moment since. He always has stumbled over his words. He's never been a great orator. He's always struggled with his speech impediment.
None of that's new. Maybe a little worse because he's older but none of that's new.
He has done an amazing job as President. He's sitting on over 100 million dollars in funds. But the Billionaires that give the big money have decided they will not support him or the down ballot candidates unless he gets out and unless they tell him to get out.
I am so angry and frustrated. They're going to cost us this election. We might squeak through because Trump is showing that he's actually literally crazy, but we might not.
I'm so furious.
We had a candidate we voted on him I'm sorry it scared you that he had a bad debate but if they had they circled the wagons and turned the firing squad external instead of at their candidate we would have gotten past this because he actually gained voters from people who watch the debates.
And media is just as responsible.
They have hammered on him 6, 10, 12, 18 hours a day. I can't even find coverage of the RNC Trump speech last night because you're so busy denigrating a man who doesn't deserve it. Trump DESERVES IT!!! Do it to HIM!!!
Geezus freaking....
And this isn't about whether I like Biden or don't like Biden this is about the realities of campaigns. It's about politics and how people vote.
People feel loyalty to Biden. People know Biden cares about them. You can't just insert someone in that slot because they're younger and think that's going to galvanize voters cuz it's not. Harris is already on the ticket if she was going to galvanize voters she already would have.
Grrrrrrr ...
There is a lot of talk that Biden is ready to step down. The main issue, as I see it: high dollar donors are refusing to donate any more money to Biden which effectively shutters his ability to campaign. They will, however, donate to a campaign where Kamala Harris is at the top of the ticket.
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/presid … -democratsI would be sad if Joe Biden stepped down and see a lot of challenges if the Democratic Party goes in that direction. I would be heartened if Kamala Harris stepped up and see just as many challenges (albeit different ones) if she becomes the Democratic nominee. There is no smooth sailing for either course.
However... Joe Biden has lost the ability to say "ballot box" without mangling it into "battle box".
I take no pleasure in saying this, but if a candidate can't pronounce a basic and essential term like "ballot", that candidate will have serious issues conveying the Democratic Party's platform, goals, values and the good they will accomplish for the working class of America.
Joe Biden is good at politics. He's very good at being president. I do think Joe Biden could win in November and win big, as Bernie Sanders said. But to win, Biden needs the party unified behind him and his donors funding him and he has neither. If he has a solution to that and stays in the race, that would be splendid. That support doesn't seem to be there, and the funding doesn't seem to be there either. He may not have the financial and logistical resources needed to win.
It's painful to say that.
The Bulwark, a website of editorials from former Republicans who turned against the GOP when it became the party of Trump, has offered a strong plan for how Kamala Harris could build on what Joe Biden has established.
Kamala Harris: The Future Is Now
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/kamala-har … ure-is-nowPresident Kamala Harris: Should she run as Biden’s vice president, or as the incumbent president?
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/president-kamala-harrisQuinnSlidr is a fervent and ardent Biden supporter. I would hazard a guess that QuinnSlidr's fealty is not actually to Joe Biden, but to truth, justice, and the better tomorrow that democracy promises. I would offer the suggestion that QuinnSlidr's inherent conviction is that America should be led by an elected president and not a dictator for life. I would posit that QuinnSlidr's true loyalty is to the American Dream.
I would hypothesize that QuinnSlidr's vote is not to a person, but to the belief that all people are created equal and imbued with certain inalienable rights, among them the right to life, liberty, happiness, and that James Brown is the godfather of soul -- and that QuinnSlidr will support the candidate who is best-positioned or least-opposing to that Dream -- whether that person is Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or somebody else.
Anyway.
Joe Biden:
Donald Trump. What a sick fuck.
What a fucking asshole the guy is.
I am fine with Kamala Harris. If this is the only way we can get a woman President...so be it.
I just really wish that Dems didn't give in to all of the right wing propaganda posted to Twitter so easily. Because that's really all it is. It's age discrimination and ageist propaganda that's protected by law Federally and in the state of California. I don't see a bigger workplace than the Presidency. Really broke my heart seeing Adam Schiff give in. He's lost my vote for life.
But I saw that Obama is now bringing up concerns about President Biden's candidacy. I'll listen to Barack. And I'll still vote for Kamala if she's put in President Biden's place.
I just wish it didn't have to be this way. President Biden doesn't deserve to be forced out the way he is being forced out.
My only hope is that Harris picks Buttigieg as her running mate for VP. That will be a powerful ticket.
Oh dear God...
President Joe Biden has tested positive for Covid-19
RNC ratings on first night down 21% from 2016
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/17/rnc-ni … ium=social
The first night of the Republican National Convention (RNC) drew 18.13 million viewers Monday night, up slightly from 2020, but down 21% from 2016, according to Nielsen.
Why it matters: Monday's convention marked former president Trump's first public appearance since an assassination attempt against him Saturday evening.
Trump also announced Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance as his running mate on Monday.
Zoom in: A total of 12 broadcast and cable networks showed the Milwaukee event live from 10pm to 11pm ET, when the biggest speeches occurred.
Fox News drew the most viewers (6.85 million) among the major cable and broadcast news networks, followed by ABC (2.28 million), NBC (2,24 million), CBS (1.82 million), MSNBC (1.27 million) and CNN (1.11 million).
As with the debate and most TV news events, the vast majority of viewers (75%) were over 55-years-old.
What we're watching: Vance is slated to speak at the RNC on Wednesday, marking his first major national address as a political figure. Trump is scheduled to speak Thursday.
I really don't understand why Biden is staying in. It's either ego or the poll numbers for basically anyone else are worse than we thought. Just like Trump has a ceiling, I think Biden has a floor because enough people don't want to see Trump back in office. But I don't understand being resigned to *maybe* winning 270-268 when a different candidate could possibly do better in the Sun Belt. I don't know if Biden has any chance of winning any of those states. Maybe Kamala Harris can't either, but I think we know that Biden probably can't.
Biden's negatives can't be fixed, and they can only get worse. The more public he is, the more gaffes he makes (intentionally or not), and one of them could make things so much worse. Why not go with someone who might have more negatives but they're negatives that can be spun into positives? Harris has less experience but Biden could campaign for her and talk about how she's ready. Her prosecutor background could convince undecideds that she could be tough on crime or immigration. She could reach women in an election that abortion will be front and center on. Her (relative) youth could help her with younger voters as she might have some sort of idea what the Internet is. She may even own AirPods! I know she doesn't do much better with black voters, but maybe it'd help.
Biden isn't going to get any younger. He isn't going to look any less frail. I know he can do the job, and I understand that he's super sharp in private meetings. But whether he's the best person for the job doesn't matter when it's a popularity contest.
I still think he can win. I just don't know why they don't just make a move. There could be a lot of enthusiasm around a Harris VP pick, and it could be from a state like Pennsylvania (*ahem* pick Shapiro *ahem*) that could get them hugely important electoral votes. I know VP picks don't usually matter, but it could in a close election. Especially if both sides of the ticket would be incredibly unknown for the lateness in the campaign.
I love Biden, and I think he's done a great job. But I truly wish he hadn't decided to run again.
Not me. I'm all in on President Biden.
I wish people were more steadfast in their beliefs and unshakeable against ageism. Because it's all just propaganda by the right trying to get votes their way and change the narrative to why being older than Trump is bad.
An interesting take: https://www.salon.com/2024/07/16/bye-by … dismissed/
"Judge Aileen Cannon ran her courtroom in Fort Pierce, Florida, like a massage parlor for one of Jeffrey Epstein’s best friends, and on Monday she wrapped up her special service when she dismissed all charges against Donald Trump in his trial for stealing and mishandling classified documents and obstructing the government’s attempts to recover them. Trump initially faced 31 felony counts of violating the Espionage Act, five counts of conspiracy to obstruct justice, and one count of making false statements. Cannon dismissed the case on procedural grounds, without ever considering the mountain of incriminating evidence against Trump:
More than 100 top-secret documents, including one containing nuclear secrets, were seized by the FBI in a search of Trump’s hotel/club/residence, Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach, Florida in August of 2022.
Another tranche of more than 30 classified documents Trump had turned over to the Department of Justice in response to a subpoena.
Surveillance video shows Mar-a-Lago employees moving boxes containing classified documents from room to room in Mar-a-Lago a day before DOJ officials showed up to serve the subpoena.
Testimony from Mar-a-Lago employees that the boxes of classified documents were moved at the behest of the former president.
The list goes on, but you get the picture. Days before he left office in 2021, Donald Trump illegally removed from his White House residence hundreds of boxes of government property. He then spent more than a year and a half resisting attempts by the government to recover the material, in violation of laws against obstructing justice. And he induced others to help him in the scheme.
In November of 2022, Jack Smith was appointed special counsel to investigate and potentially prosecute Donald Trump in the classified documents case. The case landed in the court of a Florida judge Trump appointed to the bench, Aileen Cannon. Almost immediately, Judge Cannon began a four-on-the-floor, pedal-to-the-metal campaign of stalling and obstructing the attempts of Special Counsel Jack Smith to investigate Trump. She granted a motion to appoint a “special master” to go through not only the classified material seized by the FBI but all the material he took from the White House. The ostensible reason for the special master was to examine the material to see if any of it was subject to either executive or attorney-client privilege. While the order was in effect, neither the FBI nor the special counsel was allowed to even look at the evidence in the investigation. Smith appealed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, and in late December, Cannon’s order was overturned.
Trump was charged in June of 2023, and another flurry of delaying motions was unleashed by Trump’s defense, allowing Judge Cannon to take weeks and then months to consider individual motions, one by one, and to schedule individual hearings on each motion. She would take weeks to consider Trump’s motions and the special counsel’s replies, and then weeks to schedule the hearings, and she would take more weeks before issuing her rulings on each delaying motion.
It was during this process that Trump’s defense team made a motion to dismiss the charges based on its theory that the special counsel was improperly and unconstitutionally appointed, thus the prosecution he brought was unconstitutional as well.
It was no surprise to legal experts today when Judge “I’m Delaying Just As Fast As I Can” Cannon dismissed the charges, especially since Justice Clarence Thomas, in a footnote to the court’s decision finding that Trump is immune from prosecution for official acts he took as president, put forth his theory that the special counsel was unconstitutionally appointed. Justice Thomas’ theory had nothing to do with the presidential immunity case, but it was inevitable that it would be noticed by Judge Cannon and used as a rationale to dismiss the charges against Trump in the classified documents case which she did Monday in a 93-page ruling that Smith’s appointment “violates the appointments clause of the United States Constitution.” Cannon even went along with the motion made by Trump that the funding of the special counsel’s office was unconstitutional because it violated the “role of Congress in authorizing expenditures by law.”
As the New York Times reported on Monday afternoon, Cannon’s ruling “flew in the face of previous court decisions reaching back to the Watergate era that upheld the legality of the ways in which independent prosecutors have been named.” That wouldn’t bother Cannon, however, because most of what she has done over the last two years in the classified documents case has been not only unusual but unprecedented, including hearing oral arguments from third parties who filed outside briefs supporting Trump motions that included the one she ruled on today.
One massive irony in Cannon’s ruling is that it throws into question the appointment of other special counsels, including that of Robert Hur, who is prosecuting the son of the president, Hunter Biden, meaning that the charges against him may be dismissed as well.
The Department of Justice has already authorized Smith to appeal Cannon’s ruling to the 11th Circuit, which would make its third appeal to that court since November of 2022. The 11th Circuit, as it has before, will probably slap down Cannon’s ruling and order the case to be reinstated. The special counsel is bound to include in its appeal an argument that Judge Cannon be dismissed from the case. If the 11th Circuit approves that motion, a new judge will be appointed to the case. He or she will no doubt take a month or two to get up to speed on the case. Previous delaying motions filed by Trump are still pending, so the judge will have to rule on those before a trial date can be set.
But, if the 11th Circuit overturns Cannon’s ruling, Trump will doubtlessly appeal to the Supreme Court, and we already know what they think about his standing before the law.
And then, of course, there is the election, which will determine who will be the next President of the United States. If Trump wins, he will without a doubt dismiss the special counsel and have his new Attorney General – he might appoint Aileen Cannon; stranger things have happened – dismiss the classified documents charges against him…yet again.
Round and round Aileen Cannon has gone down there in Florida, and round and round we go as the clock ticks toward Election Day in November, and where it stops, nobody knows."
The evidence available does not substantiate the view that the race has shifted away from President Biden in the immediate aftermath of the debate.
https://spoutible.com/pod/669281629258eeb1b3de21e8
I despise Donald Trump.
Attempting to assassinate him is a foolish and destructive act that only emboldens and encourages the brand of violence and hatred that Trump himself encourages.
It's wrong on every level. It's wrong on a moral level to use lethal force on someone who isn't physically and immediately attacking you.
It's wrong on an ethical level because we don't want America to be a place where murder dictates elections whether it's on one side or the other.
It's wrong on a strategic level because it enables people who are either crazy, ignorant, dishonest, foolish, or some combination of all four, to turn Trump into a figure of sympathy and gives his cause further militance and make inane claims like "the election is over".
Trying to kill Trump isn't just morally and ethically wrong. It demonstrates an utterly incompetent sense of political strategy. It's wrong.
It's also stupid.
So do I, ireactions. I despise him as well.
We are 100 percent agreed on all points. Incredibly stupid move. All it does is turn him into a martyr. Which is exactly what we don't want or need.
I echo our President Biden. Political violence, even if you don't like Trump, is never acceptable.
So much for all the remove Biden propaganda.
Biden lost no voters during the debate that's a new study that came out this week. (In fact he gained among black voters who watched the debate, the decreases came from people who didn't watch the debate but got their information from other sources)
New polls came out today. Biden is ahead or tied in 60%-70% of them and only behind by 1%-3% in the others.
So he lost no voter from the debate and he's going up in the polls, but he's not electable?
Maybe people are paying way more attention to Trump than people think.
I don't know why it's so close. But I don't think that's a factor related to Biden. Trump has a hard 45% of the American vote.
Propaganda and cultism is really what's responsible.
https://x.com/SimonWDC/status/1811771182137401714
Watching the press conference, President Biden's gaffes aren't nearly as bad as all the remove Biden pushers would have you believe.
Nowhere near as bad as Trump's (Hitler's) decline. So explain to me again why the media isn't pushing that? Are they all Trump donors? Dirtbags.
The President still has my vote.
As much as Grizzlor wants me to believe it, he is still pushing all the remove Biden agenda and right winger memes the right is pushing. I have a hard time believing his behavior is linked to a real President Biden supporter. It feels like behavior that's akin to a mole paid by the other side to keep that narrative going: minimize anything negative about Trump, and just talk all about President Biden's age and mild gaffes to push the remove Biden agenda.
QuinnSlidr wrote:Mr. Grizzlor.....where's all your criticism about Trump's mental decline which has been a consistent concern?
You can't criticize Biden without criticizing Trump as well.
Otherwise, that makes you a hypocrite.
I criticize Trump's mental health constantly. He's been clinically insane for years. Republicans don't care. Also, his insane speeches get zero media coverage while Biden (the actual President) is getting headlines. If Biden drops out, the focus shifts to that whacko. Trump's jerkoff behavior is not going to lose him votes. He's lost whatever he could already.
George Clooney, who just hosted a massive fundraiser for Biden, came out against his fitness, and the Biden WH responded by claiming Clooney left the event and Biden took photos for 3 hours. They sound like Trump. We all saw the video where Obama "helped" Biden off the stage.
MSNBC's Chris Hayes basically doesn't think he can win.
https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/stat … 4195930321Swing district Dems in my backyard, Biden now in trouble in.
https://twitter.com/JSweetLI/status/1811131360435917069Chuck Schumer ready to jump ship.
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/schume … 4-electionThe Biden debate fiasco wouldn't have mattered, if there weren't already major contention over whether he could finish out a 2nd term. Why should voters be pressed into electing someone who is highly unlikely to do so, as he'll be 86. His approval ratings are awful. And Biden continues to run many, many points weaker in swing states as the down ballot Dems are. What you've had is a long standing concern amongst Democrats about Biden's chances.
Can you please point out the posts on this board in which you criticize Trump? Because I don't see any scrolling past this entire page. It's all Biden bad, Biden bad, Biden bad.
Not a single word about how terrible Trump's mental health has declined.
Trump (Hitler) shows far more of a mental decline compared to President Biden at rally last night.
Does the media say a word about it? No.
Let's just keep talking about President Biden, whose mental decline was far less.
But sure, let's talk about President Biden's supposed "mental decline".
Trump's (Hitler's) is far worse.
https://x.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1810854084544712831
https://x.com/ArtCandee/status/1810850893618704877
Just because a defendant withdrew a case because of threats of death against her and had to use a pseudonym because of that doesn't make it false, Snopes.
He's still a child rapist and it is highly substantiated with court documents and multiple witnesses showing that Trump and Epstein both participated in the rapes.
Mr. Grizzlor.....where's all your criticism about Trump's mental decline which has been a consistent concern?
You can't criticize Biden without criticizing Trump as well.
Otherwise, that makes you a hypocrite.
Looking forward to your new book, Annie!!
Keep calling them out to their faces, Mr. President!! You will always have my vote!
https://x.com/D_jeneration/status/1809349394359013560
BREAKING: New CNN polling shows 91% of Democrats are enthusiastic about supporting President Biden. Main stream media is wholly out of touch with where the Democratic base is.
https://x.com/BidensWins/status/1810003377859829818
President Biden now leads Trump by 5 percent in Michigan, and 3 percent in Wisconsin. The President's margin has grown 4% in both Michigan and Wisconsin.
Let's go!!!
https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/18 … 3054820493
Even if you think Biden is OK now, do you think he'll remain OK for the next four years? He should not be running.
I don't discriminate based on age. Unlike some others, apparently.
I for one don't buy into the BS narrative, and I see zero problems with President Biden. I'm staying the course with my vote:
Yep....beware of those who you don't know 100% their voting desires....
https://x.com/cbouzy/status/1807419512662130802
Slider_Quinn21, what polls are you referring to?
Also, I don't think post-debate polls are going to be meaningful in sample size or reach or accuracy for several weeks. But generally, debates have a negligible impact.
Biden is speaking tonight on the Supreme Court decision that former presidents and presidents enjoy broad immunity against prosecution and official acts can't be used as evidence in prosecuting unofficial acts... and I have to wonder if this offers any path towards Supreme Court reform if Biden effectively has total immunity to the end of his term.
Well, there is certainly nothing wrong with President Biden tonight too. However they prepped was not the right call and was not the right way to prep this time around. Cold or not, I have to wonder if their prepping methods are to blame on some level.
This Washington Post article is paywalled, but eight Biden aides spoke anonymously with the Post. They report that their debate prep for Biden had prepared for every single question Biden ended up facing on debate night. Their practice sessions were detailed and meticulous, and readily anticipated pretty much every topic and situation.
In the sessions, the president still spoke haltingly. He sometimes confused facts and figures. He tripped over words and meandered. Debate prep would not fix his stutter or make him appear any younger, aides knew. Every topic he was asked about Thursday, he had practiced answers for — including the final one about his age.
Biden's team knew what was coming, and they had planned for all of it with the president.
So aides were bewildered by his performance. Many felt they had never seen him collapse so dramatically. After all, Biden was a veteran of numerous debates — as a senator, vice-presidential nominee and presidential candidate. And they did not understand why he gave an entirely different answer on the age question than the one they spent more than a week perfecting.
But with another debate scheduled for September — a Biden campaign spokesman said the president would not withdraw from it — aides and allies are scrutinizing the president’s preparation for last week’s debate to figure out if they missed signs of what would unfold in CNN’s Atlanta studio.
President Biden had to fact-check a debate that had no fact checkers or any moderation to speak of, in addition to being sick, when faced with an onslaught of lies from Trump every second of the debate. Of course any person would falter in that scenario. CNN should be ashamed of themselves for how they conducted it.
Biden gave another great speech in NYC:
https://www.youtube.com/live/B7NyV_EENF … &t=597Biden tries to calm nervous donors:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/2 … p-00165933Biden insider confesses that following the debate, Biden felt "humiliated, devoid of confidence and painfully aware that the physical images of him at the debate — eyes staring into the distance, mouth agape — will live beyond his presidency, along with a performance that at times was meandering, incoherent and difficult to hear. 'It’s a mess,' this person said."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e … rcna159591ireactions is fond of Joe Biden and shakes nervously.
Agreed. I'm nervous about this but at least some signs are showing that it's not hurting President Biden as much as initially thought.
They're talking about Latino voters but that's a huge vote that needs to be secured so it's good news.
I believe that the media and the policy wonks and all who concentrated on Biden's performance and not Trump's but it looks like a lot of fence sitters, from what I'm seeing online in social media are now more determined than ever to vote for Biden because they don't want Trump in office. They don't care that Biden had a bad night they focused on what Trump was saying. And some of what he said on the debate stage is he was going to use the military to go in and raid all their communities and deport people.
Even though the debate for the first 30 minutes was pretty bad it looks like it may not have had a negative effect on Biden's election chances.
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Undecided voters say they now support Joe Biden after debate.......
Holy cow. If this guy was consistently showing up, Biden would be crushing it. If he'd shown up in the debate, it would've been a totally different story.
We need *much* more of this in a *very* public forum, and the criticisms of him will fall apart.
Exactly. What a day to get a cold.
All is not lost. THE President Biden...today...
QuinnSlidr wrote:This will not change my vote one iota. It's still democrat - straight down the ticket.
Well, yeah. This, forever. Nothing about last night could've changed that. Biden has my vote, and I'll enthusiastically vote for him. One thing that made me sad a little bit is that Biden from 8-12 years ago would've wiped the floor with Trump last night. He wouldn't have let Trump get away with any of that BS. But he's lost his fastball. Pitchers can pitch for a decade after they lose their fastball, but sometimes, people need their fastball.
I'm with Biden until the end. I would just feel a little better if there was someone else running. As I said, that person couldn't just be anyone, and that isn't happening in either way. So it doesn't really matter either way.
Trump (Hitler) lied and lied and lied and lied and lied. That is not being on point. A true lunatic in every sense of the word.
Oh for sure (and I referenced that). But I don't think him lying is good enough for Biden to score points. We know Trump lies, and a decent amount of the voter base doesn't care. The ones that do may not know he's lying. Without a true live fact check, there's no way for viewers to know what's true and what isn't. I assume well-educated people know that no states allow post-birth abortions, but I don't know if everyone knows that. When Trump says garbage about the successes he's had, people may not know better.
What Biden needed was for Trump to not be a liar but to be crazy. He seems to go on these weird rambling stories when he does rallies, and it turns people off (even MAGA people). A lot of times, MAGA people leave his rallies early because they're tired of hearing him ramble on about sharks and showers. Debates aren't really a good format to expose people to that, but it's the best chance that people have to see what a lunatic he is. I was truly hoping he'd say some bizarre nonsense because I think that's the best way to peel off people from Trump. They might even know he's a liar, but they need to also know that he's crazy.
There's another debate. If Biden does well in the next one, this one won't matter.
Oh, I know your vote. I know that a lot of dems are nervous about last night. And deservedly so. But I think some of the assessments about President Biden are way out there and reek of propagandist junk, because they don't take into consideration the reality of some of what transpired.
I don't think Biden lost his fastball. I think his hands were tied by a couple of issues - namely, CNN's terrible moderation, his cold, and medication. I think if Biden were normal last night, he wouldn't have any issues and would have mopped the floor with Trump in more ways than one. I think he will show up 100% for the second debate and will (hopefully) be more prepared.
The biggest problem with the debate are the following: Biden had a cold. He was also on medication for this cold.
Biden didn't do well at first and did better after because he has a severe stutter. He was sick. He was forced to fact check his opponent while also having to give his answer in 2 minutes. If you've ever known someone with a severe stutter, then that kind of time frame which includes having to try to get that much information out is incredibly difficult.
Shame on CNN for not fact-checking or moderating properly. Shame on them for letting Trump tell lies like "doctors taking babies out of womb at nine months and killing them," which forced Biden to be the fact checker. Biden shouldn't have to do the fact checking but because Biden was doing the fact checking while sick and having a severe stutter, he fumbled a lot until he could get control.
Please note: if you look at all of his previous appearances and presentations and speeches in the last 2 to 3 months you will not see any major issues including during the State of the Union.
He's also done an amazing job as President we have the number one economy in the world. The World Bank even says we're holding up everybody else. But sure - because of all the propagandist BS, let's judge him completely on one bad performance while he's sick, having to fact check his lying opponent, AND get his point out in 2 minutes with a severe stutter.
Maybe his four year record is what we should be looking at not how he performed during a SINGLE debate where had to fact check someone who is a lying POS every time they open their mouth.
This will not change my vote one iota. It's still democrat - straight down the ticket.
It's going pretty bad so far. Biden looks old and Trump has been staying on point and not acting like a lunatic yet.
Still lots of time but I'm not loving it so far.
Trump (Hitler) lied and lied and lied and lied and lied. That is not being on point. A true lunatic in every sense of the word.
Longtime Trump adviser Steve Bannon ordered to go to prison by July 1
The right-wing operative/podcaster and longtime Trump adviser must report to prison in less than a month.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sho … rcna155880
Nearly two years after Steve Bannon was found guilty of two counts of contempt of Congress, the right-wing operative/podcaster hoped an appeals court would undo what a jury already did. When that effort failed, Bannon faced the genuine possibility of incarceration.
That now appears increasingly unavoidable. NBC News reported:
A federal judge on Thursday ordered former Trump adviser Steve Bannon to report to prison on July 1 to begin a four-month prison sentence for defying subpoenas from the Jan. 6 Committee after a higher court rejected his appeal.
For those who might need a refresher as to how we arrived at this point, the one thing everyone involved in the process can agree on is that Bannon has important insights related to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He was in communications with then-President Donald Trump in the run-up to the insurrectionist riot, and he reportedly told the outgoing president, “It’s time to kill the Biden presidency in the crib.”
The day before the attack, Bannon seemed to know quite a bit about what was likely to happen, telling his podcast listeners: “All hell is going to break loose tomorrow. Just understand this: All hell is going to break loose tomorrow. ... All I can say is: Strap in. You have made this happen, and tomorrow it’s game day.”
With this in mind, it hardly came as a surprise that the bipartisan House committee investigating the attack issued subpoenas in September 2021, seeking information from key Trump insiders — and Bannon was at the top of the list.
When he refused to comply in any way, the House approved a resolution finding the GOP operative in contempt of Congress. As part of the same process, the Democratic-led chamber referred the matter to the Justice Department for possible criminal prosecution. In November 2021, Bannon was indicted by a federal grand jury, charged with one count of contempt and another involving his refusal to produce documents despite a congressional subpoena.
The criminal trial didn’t go especially well for the defendant: Bannon’s defense team called no witnesses, and the accused never took the stand. The jury only deliberated for about three hours before finding him guilty.
A few months later, U.S. District Court Judge Carl J. Nichols — also appointed by Trump — sentenced Bannon to four months behind bars, though the jurist said he could remain free while the appeals process continued.
As my MSNBC colleague Clarissa-Jan Lim explained in May, when a federal appeals court upheld Bannon’s conviction, he was left with few options.
Federal prosecutors told Nichols there was “no legal basis” for the continued stay. The jurist agreed and ordered Bannon to report to prison by next month.
The podcast host and his defense counsel will almost certainly continue to pursue appeals, though it appears increasingly inevitable that Bannon will soon be behind bars.
Complicating matters, Bannon is also slated to stand trial in New York City in September on charges related to his role in the “We Build the Wall” operation. In that case, he’s accused of helping defraud donors; he has pleaded not guilty. (Coincidentally, Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s hush money trial, is overseeing Bannon’s other case, too.)
Bannon also faced federal criminal charges four years ago, though he received a pardon from Trump on the president’s last day in office.
Another presidential pardon this year appears extremely unlikely.
I think that republicans and Trumpers, in particular, tend to overestimate how much support Trump even has at this point. Because their minds operate on an entirely different reality from ours. This is the part that polling does not take into account. Polling assumes that all minds are equal, when in fact, that is not the case when all Trumpers listen to and want are "alternative facts" that fit their worldview.
Guaranteed not very many normal people who pay attention to the facts, and not Fox News's spins on the facts, are going to want to vote for a convicted felon for the President of the United States.
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