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Something that DC is going to have to look out for regarding their movies.  It was brought up on the Weekly Planet podcast (which, yes, has become a regular listening appointment for me), and I think it's correct (for the record, neither hated it but neither loved it).

BvS was 3-hour movie that was hacked to a point where the theatrical version is certainly worse than the extended edition (where you either liked it and love the longer version or you hated the theatrical and at least think the extended version makes more sense).  With the extended edition, you get scenes where character motivations and plot holes are filled in.  Without it, character motivations are blurred, and the plot makes less sense.

With Suicide Squad, I'm hearing a lot of things.  That Croc and Boomerang have more to do in the extended cut.  That Joker appears more and is more "Joker-y" in the deleted scenes.  That character motivations shifting throughout the movie is explained in deleted scenes.  That the full movie experience will be in the extended cut.

And I wonder how many times they can pull off this trick where you're essentially paying to see the movie twice.  You want to watch a hacked-up version of the movie that will make less sense?  Pay your $15 in theaters.  But you want the real movie with all the scenes that make the movie make sense?  Buy the blu-ray.

If DC wants to have "serious" movies with character development, they can't cut out the scenes that make the characters work.  You can't cut out scenes that make characters worthy of even being in the movie. 

And I have to think, again, that it's partially due to lack of leadership at the top.  How does a 3-hour script get approved when they aren't going to release a 3-hour movie?  Why are we getting an entirely new editing company making a completely different version of a movie based on a trailer?  Why are we hyping up a character who's in the movie for 10 minutes and does nothing?  Why have so many members of the squad when only three are relevant?

Johns and Affleck should fix some of these issues, but it's a bit of a mess when they keep having to say "wait for the blu-ray!  that's the real movie!"

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Ha, I love this place.  We came up with our own elaborate backstory to explain a rumor that may or may not even happen.  And if it does happen, there's no way they're going to be as detailed as we've been.

You guys are awesome smile

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Informant wrote:

Superman was already active when Kara landed (which makes the casting of Superman that much worse) so you'd need to alter Clark's history and Kara's both.

According to the timeline, Barry's mom dies in 2000.  Kara showed up in 2003.  We don't know when Clark showed up, but there's a three year window in which Thawne could've changed things.

Barry mentions Black Canary not Laurel.  She doesn't recognize the names - doesn't mean Oliver and Laurel don't exist - it just means they aren't active superheroes (or active enough for Kara to have heard of them).  Later in the episode, Barry actually searches (presumably online) for Cisco/Caitlin/Wells and says there's nothing on them.  He presumes they don't exist, but maybe he didn't search well enough to find whether they didn't exist or if they were dead.  The line doesn't presume either way, so it's possible that Thawne killed them all and scrapped STAR Labs.

Branching point - Thawne goes back.  In both instances, he uses up his speed force and kills Barry's mom.

Timeline 1 (Earth 1) - Thawne uses STAR Labs technology (as Wells) to fire a kryptonite (which could exist) missile at Kara's pod.  And he either uses kryptonite to kill Superman, or Superman decides to stay hidden (due to what happened to Kara or something else).  The universe moves on as we know it.

Timeline 2 (Kara's Earth) - Thawne decides not to mess with the kryptonians, and he takes his revenge on the STAR Labs folks.  He kills Wells but doesn't assume his identity.  He also kills Cisco and Caitlin.  Maybe Barry too.  Superman shows up as we know, and Kara's ship lands 3 years later.  Superman showing up in 2003 could've changed Oliver's life enough to change his life in some way (he's inspired to be a better person, Waller doesn't need him because there's a freaking Superman around, etc).  No Green Arrow means no Atom and no Black Canary.  No Flash means no Firestorm. 

It technically fits.

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Informant wrote:

Barry going back in time changes the timeline, but unless that new timeline includes a huge, major catastrophe off screen, no amount of ripples will merge two universes.

Well, if the show works upon a "branching" multiverse, then I think they could write it that way.  What if the branching event that causes Supergirl to live outside Barry's world happened after Reverse Flash did something?  For example, what if Reverse Flash decided to try and destroy another hero when he got the chance and used STAR Labs technology to either destroy Kara's ship or divert it from Earth, somehow?  So that's why Kara isn't on Earth-1?  And maybe that event either forced Clark to not come out of the shadows (maybe operating like Clark on Smallville), or Thawne was able to kill Clark as well.

To explain differences in Kara's Earth, you could also use this theory.  Maybe instead of going after Clark and/or Kara on Kara's Earth, maybe Thawne decided to take his anger out on STAR Labs and kill everyone there (maybe including Barry).  When Barry says that no one exists, it's all STAR Labs people - Cisco, Caitlin, and Wells.  So when Barry was searching for them, maybe he couldn't find them because they were dead.  Maybe the other heroes don't exist because this is a world where Superman exists so Oliver thought fighting crime with a bow and arrow seemed silly compared to that.  If Oliver doesn't become Arrow, then there's no Atom or Black Canary.

With Thawne defeated in the new timeline, none of that would happen and the universes "merge"

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Well, I think they need to merge so that Kara's "home" is in Earth 1.  Merging is the only way to accomplish that.  If it was just Kara crossing for crossovers,  that's one thing.  But if Merlyn and Laurel and Snart (and others, I assume) are also going to be on Supergirl, then it's easier to just have them all live in the same universe.

I imagine it only would really impact Supergirl, which you don't like anyway smile

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Informant wrote:

I don't think that Deadshot really "beat" Batman. Batman didn't have an interest in pummeling Deadshot in front of his daughter..

Well, the reason why I say that Deadshot "beat" Batman was based on a couple things - the "fantasy" sequence when Deadshot had killed Batman and the fact that the daughter stepped in at all.  Both of these are written off pretty easily - the little girl couldn't possibly be expected to understand how the fight is going.  She stepped in because she thought her dad was going to kill Batman - not because he necessarily would.  And the fantasy sequence is just that - a fantasy.

But the way that it was shot, Batman looked like he was helpless and Deadshot had him.  Now I know that Deadshot has a "blind spot" for Batman and usually can't kill him (or misses), but that's not presented in the movie.  He's sitting, ready to fire, when the daughter steps in.  I"d assume that Deadshot could've killed Batman there if he wanted.

I don't know.  I know it wasn't a Batman movie, but if they're going to include Batman in a cameo, I want him to be super terrifying.  And he wasn't.

Boomerang and Croc are definitely the backup singers in this movie. I didn't dislike their characters or think that they should have been cut though. Not everyone on the team can have the same level of attention. Sometimes you need a Chekov and Sulu just to make it a team instead of a buddy-cop movie.

I agree that teams need filler, but one of the problems was not enough backstory for a couple of people.  So here's what I would've done to change things.

- No Boomerang or Croc.  No backstory on either buys you 5-10 minutes, and it doesn't really impact the story (someone else just needs to throw the bomb....so we'll say Flagg just throws it himself.  It wasn't like the bomb was heavy or the throw was far).

- Include the entire seduction/corruption of Harley by Joker.  Instead of "she was a doctor and then she fell in love with her patient....show the whole thing.  Batman the Animated Series did a great job with it, and it only took three minutes of screentime.  It explains so much about Harley's character, and I think it would make more sense.

- Like you said, introduce Slipknot with the same introduction as everyone else.  Also include a scene where Amanda Waller is talking to someone about the bombs either being a trick or not really working in earshot of Slipknot.  The assumption being that Slipknot would automatically try and escape on his own, which would be Amanda's plan the whole time.

- Introduce Katana correctly.  She's just sorta tacked on in the middle, and the audience feels less for her.  Include her from the beginning.

- Make Joker less Scarface and more Joker.

- If you want to include Croc, make him show up as a cameo in the sewers scene.  But if you're going to include him, make his scene matter.

- Batman needs to be terrifying in the flashbacks.  Fast, strong, and big.  Batman also needs to meet with Waller on a rooftop or alley in the mid-credits scene.  Not Bruce in a restaurant (pet peeve).

That's just what I would change.  I think that would make the movie tighter and more character oriented.

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You're right.  The original Harrison Wells should still be alive.

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Informant wrote:

I get that it makes sense for the writers and the network, but it still has to make sense within the story. They can't just have Kara show up at the next crossover event as though she's been there all along.

I mean, I'm sure there'll be a reason.  It'll be technobabble BS, but it'll be there.

"When you changed history, you sent a shockwave through the entire multiverse.  Entire worlds were merged together.  Mathematically speaking, the two closest worlds to our Earth.  So any world you've been to, I assume."

"Oh hey Kara and Harry!"

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I thought all the stuff he mentioned sounds cool.  I think Fuller gets it, and I think he'll make a great show.  I'm excited about it.

No idea about the event he's talking about.

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Well, it makes logistical sense for Kara to be in the Arrowverse.  We know guys like Cold and Merlyn and Laurel are going to be on all four shows, and those guys can't be jumping around the multiverse.  So she has to come over.

And if she's coming, her side characters have to come.  If they don't, even if it's fun to explore alternate Arrowverse versions of Winn and James and Cat, the whole plot of Supergirl is going to have to revolve around something she can't do (go home).  And even if she brings along everyone of relevance, there's still issues that are left unresolved.  What about Clark?  Does he come?  If Clark and Kara both go, is it fair to leave Earth-Kara essentially unguarded?

So merging it actually makes the most sense.  Kara doesn't have anywhere to go, and all relevant characters exist in the same universe.

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Interesting.  That makes some sense.  I guess it could hypothetically explain why things look different - maybe National City in the Arrowverse is more like Vancouver (climate/topography-wise) than Los Angeles.  I wonder if they'll even reference it.

The thing is....Barry said that none of the people he knew existed in Kara's world.  So when they merge, how would that work?  If Kara and Company cross over as-is, would the population of the Earth double?  Would some people merge?  If so, are we going to have billions of Mallorys?

I guess that means Clark is crossing over too.  Interesting.

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I'd prefer a "Joker only appears in Harley flashbacks with additional flashbacks" edition wink

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I respect that.  And I really do like the show.  I just would've done things a bit differently if I were in charge smile

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Yeah, I'm also not sure Lien would've appreciated being the sexy one.  I don't know why I think that.  Although, again, I feel like she was already moving that direction in season 3.

And I actually thought of a reason.  If she lives only a handful of years, season 4 could've been a "puberty" for her so she starts exuding more sexuality. 

The idea that she would've been old in the final season(s) is one of the reasons I'd love for her to stay aboard.  It could've put Voyager's journey in much more perspective since it only lasted 7 years but lasted "a lifetime" to her. 

Plus, I saw a video about the unusual relationship with Vulcans and Humans.  Vulcans live so much longer than humans that they might think of us like we think about dogs.  Yeah, you love your dog, but you're also sorta taught that dogs are temporary.  Humans might be like pets to Vulcans smile

And Kes would be the opposite.  How do you form a bond with someone who will only be a minor blip in your lifetime?  It's definitely a cool concept that they ended up abandoning.

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I've heard way more "word of mouth" positivity than with Batman Superman.  I think people definitely like it more than BvS.  At least the random people I interact with (including a few women at work who were saying they liked it).

I'm excited for you to see it.

It's just so weird because there's a build-up to it, and it just falls so flat.  It bothers me every time smile

Hahaha well apparently that line was at least explained in a deleted scene.  https://oracleoffilm.com/2014/02/09/3-d … the-movie/

The Dark Knight one is really bad because it's in such a good movie.  I still can't explain it.

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Another point about Suicide Squad

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Why didn't any of the members of the squad know each other?  I understand why none of them might know Captain Boomerang if he spent his entire career on the other side of the world.  But Harley and Deadshot worked out of the same city, and it didn't seem like they'd ever interacted before.  Killer Croc also worked out of Gotham and is a major Batman rogue.  I know he probably doesn't collaborate a lot, but they've run into each other, right?

If they wanted some fun character stuff, shouldn't there have been a scene or two where the Squad members talk about previous jobs they'd worked together.  Or at least their hatred of Batman?  Or maybe their hatred of Belle Reve?

They bond over the course of the movie (a little), but there's no indication that they'd ever bonded previously.  Am I taking too many liberties in the comic universe where villains seem to interact with each other all the time?

BANE - "So you came here to die with your city...."

BATMAN - "No.  I came here to stop you"

This line has bothered me every time I've heard it.  Every single time.  The Nolan Batman films were damn-near perfect.  I love them all, and they're full of great dialogue.  From "I never said thank you" "And you'll never have to." to "Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money.  Some men simply want to watch the world burn" - there's so many classic or funny lines in this series.

Batman has been defeated.  His back has been broken.  His spirit nearly fell as well.  Gotham has been taken over.  The citizens are hiding, scared.  Batman triumphantly leads an army to fight, and when the one-on-one matchup happens......"I came here to stop you."  Seriously, Bruce?  You couldn't come up with something better in all the time you were sitting in that prison?  On the long plane ride back?  In the day or two you were in Gotham?

Granted, yes, you came there to stop him.  It's true.  But the line falls so flat.  It might be the flattest line in the series, and it might be one of the flattest "big moment" lines I've ever seen.

The movie is way better than it gets credit for, but man....that line.

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I mean, I get that he's hard to identify with.....but he's Superman.  That doesn't just extend to strength and invulnerability.  He's confident because nothing can hurt him.  He's had no reason to be scared of anything his entire life.  I know there's physical pain and emotional pain (which Clark *isn't* invulnerable to), but he's also never sick.  He's attractive.  He's smart.  These are things that would've made him popular by itself.

I'm not saying Clark wouldn't have issues.  Because, of course he would.  Like I said, he's still vulnerable to emotional pain.  The head cheerleader turns him down, he gets sad.  He fails a big math test, he gets sad.  He can't afford the car he wants, he gets sad.  These are very human problems that would also affect Clark.

But he's still Superman.  He still can do things that no one else on the planet can do.  And that's terrifying, but it's also gotta be, on some level, really satisfying.  Even if his parents were straight monsters who taught him to hate himself because he's different, he can still do all those things I said he could do.  Even in his drifter phase, he was always employed and got to see the world.

I know I sound like Clark's psychologist, but I just expect his life to actually be better.  There's Elon Musk and there's Clark Kent.  Elon Musk's life might not be that great.  Clark's life, on some level, just has to be pretty great because he lives free of fear.

You'd change lives with Clark in a second, right?  Wouldn't just about anyone?

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KerrAvon wrote:

I understand that the third film. Star Trek Beyond will the last of the JJ Abrams rebooted films.

I don't think that's right.  From what I've read, they've already signed Chris Hemsworth to return as  George Kirk in a fourth film.  Zachary Quinto was on a late night show and said that they love working together so I can imagine they'd keep going.  I'd like to keep Simon Pegg on as a screenwriter - I think his love of Trek showed in Beyond.

Something I picked up on (did anyone else notice this?) when the Enterprise goes to Yorktown, we see Sulu with his gay partner and their child...George Takei is gay in real life and I think they were paying homage to George by making Sula gay. Interesting.

Yeah, it was done as an homage to George, but George actually didn't like it.  He said that it's a disservice to the character who has always been, at least in his mind, straight.  Zachary Quinto, who is also gay, was a bit hurt by that, but I don't think George was mad.  He just didn't think a previously-straight character should be switched just for the sake of switching.

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I think it could've been about Penguin's rise and crazy sort of things happening.  That there was a level of insanity on the brink of erupting, and that Batman was the catalyst for things to change.  I was cool with the beginning - Nygma is in the police force but going a little nutty.  Penguin as a foot soldier with ambition.  Selina and Ivy as kids.

But they got impatient.  Added Harvey Dent and Mr. Freeze and pseudo-Joker and a bunch of others.  So it's basically Batman without Batman.  Which is fine, except for the reasons I said.

For the record, I still like the show a lot.  I just think they could've done it better.

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Well, I'm assuming that they were going to sexualize her if she was a female.  So I'm trying to take that out of the equation.  Make her a guy, get rid of Harry, and sexualize Kes if you have to sexualize someone (and that seemed to be in progress already in season 3).

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My problem is how the show is sorta changing a fundamental aspect of the Batman character.  There's a thought that runs in stories like Batman Begins and Year One that Batman is sorta responsible for the craziness in Gotham.  That he shows up in this garish outfit, and that is what sets Gotham on the path to craziness.  That if Bruce had never shown up back in Gotham, that his villains wouldn't exist.

That Batman, more than anything else, created his own villains.  Gotham (the show) implies that Gotham was already crazy and that many of its villains were already the way they were.  And that Batman is a reaction to Gotham and not the other way around.

And while it's not a terrible change, I think it's a less-interesting one.  The idea that Batman might not actually be good for Gotham - that he might create as many villains as he puts down, just by existing in the city.  The idea that, if he quit, maybe the city would go back to "normal."  That's a pretty cool concept, and it's something that a lot of Batman stories sorta leave ambiguous.

Gotham answers the question pretty clearly - Gotham goes crazy with big colorful villains way before Bruce ever gets on the scene.  Even if Bruce waits another 6-10 years to show up as Batman, he's absolutely reacting to something that had been going on in the city for years.  In fact, almost none of Batman's villains would've been a reaction to Batman.  Even Joker would've simply been a reaction to Jerome.

It's definitely an alternate reality.  I'm just worried it's a less interesting reality.

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This is something I've wanted to post for a while, and I'm just now getting to it.  I've always had a soft spot for Voyager for whatever reason, and it's a bit annoying when people simply disregard it.  Among the principal complaints about the show seems to be the inclusion of Seven of Nine.

On paper, Seven seems like a cool character.  She's a former Borg, following up on fan favorite Hugh from TNG.  She's also a valuable member of the crew, able to use knowledge from the Borg Collective in battle and to assist in technology/astrometrics.

But in translating the character from page to screen, something happened: Seven of Nine became a sexed-up supermodel in a tight catsuit.  I don't really blame Jeri Ryan for any of this - I thought she did a pretty great job with the character, and I think she's an underrated actress.

But did Jeri's appearance/costume take away from her character?  To the point where a (potentially?) really cool character was sorta disregarded?

So I thought about it, and I wondered if the character would've been better off written as a male.  Before you say anything, I'm not suggesting that male characters are more interesting than female ones, but Voyager wasn't necessarily looking for a "cool" character as much as a "sexy" one at the time.  So I'm guessing that if Seven was going to be female, she was going to be sexy.

This in mind, I came up with an alternate idea for Voyager season 4.  What if Kes didn't die in season 4's second episode?  Instead, what if Kes became the "sexy" character on Voyager?  Jennifer Lien had already been a somewhat-sexy character on the show, and by the third season, she'd grown out her hair and was wearing tighter clothes.  Kes was already one of the more interesting characters, and replacing one interesting character with another isn't necessarily a net win.

So instead, what if the show killed off a less-interesting character.  Say....Harry Kim.

Harry never really did much on Voyager.  He'd occasionally make some sort of ensign mistake, and he'd occasionally fall in love with some alien.  Other than that, his character was "friend to Tom Paris."  I don't have a lot of love for Tom Paris, but he's a more interesting character than Harry.

So what if Harry is killed in some sort of heroic sacrifice, and the crew brings on Seven of Nine, a human male Borg drone.  On paper, the characters would be the same.  Seven was raised human, captured by the Borg at a young age, and has lived in the Collective for most of his life.  He wants to go back at first because it's all he's ever known, but he slowly becomes to like life as an individual.

There are some cool character dynamics that could come out of that.  With no Harry Kim, Seven could've filled the role as the inexperienced but very knowledgeable young officer.  Tom and Seven could bond, with Tom looking for someone to fill the hole Harry left in his heart and Seven looking for something he's never needed: friendship.  And while Tom is showing Seven some of what it's like to be human (sports, 20th century tech, stuff from Earth, etc) then Janeway could show him about Starfleet.

And instead of a mentor relationship, Janeway and Seven could potentially enter a romantic relationship.  It could've been something we hadn't really seen before - can a captain engage in a romantic relationship with someone in her crew?  And if this had happened right after whatever dalliance she had with Chakotay, it could've developed into a sort of triangle and given Chakotay something to do.

Just sort of a fun thought experiment.

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TemporalFlux wrote:

And Jared Leto became something, but hell if I know what it was.

He claims a lot of his part was cut (and we know some of it was based on shots from the trailer).  But the more I think about it, Joker was the most disappointing part of the movie.

I wonder if his character is the biggest victim of the alleged major re-edit.

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Well, they wanted Young Batman.  The problem is that they didn't seemingly want any of his villains to be young.  Outside of Penguin, I sorta assumed that all Batman's villains were his contemporaries.  In this series, it'll basically only be Catwoman.

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So they're recasting Poison Ivy with a sexy young actress - now 19 years old instead of the 12(?) year old she was before.

The show has done a decent job of planning and foreshadowing, but their characterization of Poison Ivy has been all over the place.  She was really important in the Pilot, showed up a few times, completely disappeared, and now she's jumping a few years in age so they can hire another hot young actress.  Oh well.

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I guess I can see that.  But if that's the case, I just don't like this version of Clark.  Because he's clearly not antisocial - he has confidence in social interactions.  He's able to slyly flirt with Lois Lane and win her over.  He might be afraid of his powers in his youth, but he has no issue displaying them or showing people his indestructibility on the oil platform.  He seems to have fun on his first flight.  So while the movie might want him to be this lonely drifter who stayed away from human contact because he's afraid of what will happen, some scenes in the movie don't really line up with that.  You make him sound like he's Andrew from Chronicle, but Andrew could never talk to Lois Lane the way Clark does.

I guess my vision for Clark is someone who doesn't let the weight of the world get to him.  He'll hold the weight of the world because he can handle it.  He'll handle others' weight too because he can handle it.  And he'll handle it with a smile because he's Superman, and he has a responsibility to save you as if you're the only person in the world.  He saves Lois every time, but he makes everyone feel like they're Lois.

If this Superman never had fun with his powers and thinks being Superman is too hard....then I can see why he's seemingly so depressed in BvS.  But if he wants to switch lives, I'm sure the line will be 7,442,094,132 people long (as of this instant). smile

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I mean, I just don't see the character as someone who'd be weighed down by his powers.  Would you not switch lives with Clark in an instant?  Wouldn't anyone?  So when the character is written as moody or depressed, it's like writing Richie Rich as depressed.  "Damn all this money!  It makes it harder to connect with my fellow kids?"

Maybe the Christopher Reeve movies were an extreme of this where his life is great and nothing ever goes wrong, but again, I think there's a happy medium in between those movies (for the record, I think the Reeve movies are boring and I cannot watch them).

Clark would have problems like everyone else.  But unlike everyone else, he can enjoy life in a way that no one else can.  This version of Clark could apply to someone like Ben Grimm (who has cool powers but cannot fit in) or maybe Martian Manhunter (who is weighed down by being the only Martian *and* living through it).  But Clark shouldn't identify as a Kryptonian.  He's SuperMAN.  I think he should identify as human since he was human longer than he was Kryptonian.

So he's a human with cool powers living on a planet with 7 billion other humans.  So I don't know why he'd ever feel like his life is joyless.

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Informant wrote:

Clark should be changed after coming back in Justice League. Maybe that can make him more sure of his purpose. Maybe it can give him a happier view of his situation. That's cool. But I don't want him to be the bland, hollow Christopher Reeve version of the character that plagued the character for so long. People said that he was too broody in Man of Steel too, but I just saw a person who was going through a lot.

Well, I think there's a big gap between Christopher Reeve and what we saw in Batman v Superman.  I think Man of Steel was in that gap, but I think there's still some room to play with.  The scene in MoS where Clark learns to fly exemplifies where the character should be at times.

Yeah, life can be rough when you're the only one of your kind.  When you have to be so careful with everyone around you.  When so much is riding on your shoulders. Heck, when people hate you because you saved the world.

But it's also nice to remember that Clark can have lunch in Beijing and dinner in Paris and still be home by bedtime.  He can see the polar icecaps and the Sahara Desert and Angel Falls in the same day.  He can throw a baseball into the sun.  Being Superman would be *so much fun* and just focusing on the bad just makes for a depressing movie.  I mean, we all have problems, Clark.  But not all of us can just float above the Earth when we get sad.

I think Smallville had a lot of that balance.  Yeah, Clark was sad about Lana or whatever, but there were really fun scenes where Clark and Pete played basketball or Clark and Bart raced.  Even stuff like Clark making Lana's engagement ring from a piece of coal.

Superman can (and should) have a lot of fun.  He deserves it.

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Well, the complaints were that Superman was too moody.  Not so much in Man of Steel but definitely in BvS.  If he's that moody in Man of Steel 2, then that is a problem.

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see someone else direct Man of Steel 2.  I'm thinking Snyder just doesn't want Clark to have any fun at all tongue

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My friends and I were talking the other day, and the election came up.  And we're all pretty much Trump haters, but a couple of them were Hillary supporters.  We all decided that both candidates are really unlikeable - certainly the two most unlikeable candidates that have run in our lifetimes.

And I came to a funny conclusion - neither of these candidates got to this point in their lives because they were likeable.  Trump is only here because he inherited money, which gave him wealth, which gave him notoriety. 

Hillary is only here because she married someone likeable.  She won the NY Senator job due to her husband's name, and she got to be Secretary of State because she lost an election to an unknown.

Most politicians have to be likeable on some level in order to succeed.  Neither of these candidates ever had to do that.  They married into or were born into their success.  Which is pretty crazy when you think about it.

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The more I think about it, the more I really think this movie just needed one more rewrite to be really great.  Mini spoiler alert, but in my rewrite, I would've eliminated two characters from the lineup.  I thought back, and with only one minor plot point, both characters are basically Rogue from Days of Future Past - they could be eliminated from the plot entirely with no plot holes.  So I'd get rid of them.

With those characters gone and no additional scenes needed to fix any errors (just one character doing something significant instead of another), there's three scenes I'd like to add.  It'd probably end up being slightly longer than the original cut, but it wouldn't be super-noticeable (and there's a scene or two that could be cut to keep it at a certain length.

And this is why I really like the idea of someone like Feige or Johns who is overseeing everything.  Because if it was me, I'd ask the screenwriter two questions about each character: 1) does the audience have enough to care about this character and 2) does this character serve the story?  For the two characters I'm talking about, the answer is "no" to each. 

And if the writer says "well, they serve a purpose down the road" then I'd either include them as a cameo or move their introduction to another movie.  Allegedly, the Batman solo film is going to take place in Arkham, and any character from Suicide Squad could be introduced in that movie and included in a Suicide Squad sequel.  I know the Batman stuff hasn't been confirmed so it definitely wasn't confirmed when Suicide Squad was being written....but, again, if there was a bit more planning, that might've been known before things started getting written and shot.

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Well, there's also flaws in Rotten Tomatoes' system.  It's a binary system but what if a movie doesn't really fit in either category?  What if it's not good, not great - just average?  Rotten Tomatoes makes reviews go one way or the other so an average movie could potentially go either way.

And this is one of those movies.  There are problems with plot and characterization.  To enjoy it, you are going to have to look passed some things.  I don't think this is a movie that's being unfairly treated - it truly could go either way.

I did discuss it with a friend of mine who's a hardcore DC defender, and we did come up with some ideas on how it could've been better.  I'll discuss once you've seen it.

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I get that.  But, like I've said in the past, I think these movies are aiming higher and get judged on a higher standard.  I don't think it's really fair that Thor the Dark World and Suicide Squad are measured against each other just like I don't think The Secret Life of Pets and Sausage Party should be measured against each other.  They have things in common, but they have completely different goals.

When you have Thor punching a giant rock monster and your primary villain gallivanting as Captain America in a humorous cameo, you're telling your audience that they don't have to be emotionally invested.  But in Suicide Squad, the "heroes" are told that if they step out of line, they explode (I hope that's not a spoiler).  And unlike Loki, if you die, you don't come back. 

So for Thor, the movie is judged on "did you have a good time?"  And yeah it was stupid and I don't think I'll watch it again, but I had a good time for two hours.

With Suicide Squad, just being fun isn't enough because the movie made it clear it was trying to do more.  So I have to judge on whether or not character motivations make sense.  I have to judge it on plot details.  I have to judge it on characterization.  When something doesn't make sense in Avengers, they make a joke and move on.  DC can't aspire to be better and do that.  It's why we care when Metropolis is destroyed but not when New York is.

If you want to be better, you're judged more harshly. 

It's also weird to me that you bunched in Iron Man 3 with Thor 2 and Avengers 2.  Iron Man 3 failed in some areas, but it was the most un-Marvel of the entire MCU.  It tried things that no other Marvel movie ever tried.

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Well, to be fair, I don't know anyone (on a personal level) who has said the movie was great, but I almost everyone I've talked to (who is even remotely interested in comic book movies) has either seen it or is planning on it.  There was a great deal of interest in it, but most people I've spoken to (friends and acquaintances, not reviewers) have either been disappointed in it or said something like "I'm surprised that the reviews were so bad, I thought it was fine."

When you read my review, I think you'll see that it's very easy to fall into a review going either way.  No spoilers, but the characterization is uneven (which you'd expect from an ensemble film but it's worse than most) and the plot doesn't make much sense.  At the same time, I was never bored, I enjoyed a few of the characters very much, and it was pretty cool to be watching Harley Quinn on the big screen.

So if you wanted to write a negative review, you ignore some of the fun and focus on what's bad (and there's enough).  If you wanted to write a positive review, you ignore some of the issues and focus on what's fun and good (and there's enough).  I'm not going to say there's a movement against DC because I don't really see how reviewers would benefit from taking down DC and/or propping up Marvel (and I don't think Disney is paying reviewers to give bad reviews), but I do think people are (overall) disappointed in the DC universe as a whole.  So that might make "average to good" reviews into "average to bad."

It's hard for me because I haven't loved any of the three DCEU films.  So I can't say anyone is saying a "great" movie is bad.  They're pointing out flaws in the movies that really exist.  But some movies (Episode 7) are universally loved despite their flaws, and the DC movies are getting the opposite treatment.

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Okay, so I saw it.  I'm not really sure why the movie is getting such bad reviews.  It's a bit of a mess, but I thought it was fun.  I thought it was sorta like a more serious Marvel film - much more fun than BvS or even MoS.  And it still sorta felt like the DC universe even though it was brighter and people were smiling.

I thought Margot Robbie was good as Harley, although I really didn't think they played up the tragedy of her character that much.  Even Batman: The Animated Series devoted more time to Harley's fall, and since she was such a central character, I would've liked to have seen her downfall to madness more than we got.  One of the problems of the movie is that it gets bogged down, but I think I only really understood her backstory because I've seen it elsewhere.

Will Smith was good as Deadshot.  But again, I don't really think I understood where his character was coming from.  Was he always a character who wanted to be better, or did having a daughter change him?  Did he truly like killing, or was it a means to an end?  It was hard to say.

El Diablo was a pretty great character, actually.  Maybe my favorite.  I think I understood his character the best, which was odd.

The rest were just sorta there.  I thought Katana was oddly added, and there wasn't much to her character.  Killer Croc and Captain Boomerang were forgettable in the background, and I thought Rick Flagg was pretty forgettable in the foreground.

Then there's the Joker.  I really didn't like this version of the Joker, and I'm a little upset about it.  And my main problem is that he didn't feel like the Joker to me.  Not at all.  He just seemed like a sorta-psychopathic gangster to me.  Nothing about any of his exploits really screamed "Joker" to me, and he wasn't even laughing all that much.  I know Heath Ledger's Joker wasn't really using "Joker" weapons or props, but I got the idea that he was at least an agent of chaos.  I really just didn't get a Joker vibe from him the entire time.

Amanda Waller was pretty well done, but I also wasn't really sure where her character was coming from.  The scene where she kills a room full of agents was bizarre, and I never really understood her motivations.  Was she just out for herself?  If so, why didn't she give Enchantress what she wanted when she was captured?  Why didn't she try and make some sort of deal?

I thought Batman's part was a bit weird.  I liked the mid-credits scene quite a bit(*), but I thought the two flashback scenes were sorta bizarre.  Batman gets the drop on Deadshot with this daughter, but would Deadshot have killed him if his daughter hadn't stepped in?  Did a little girl save Batman's life?  Deadshot basically beat him in the fight.  I know it's not a Batman movie, but it was a little odd to me.  And the Joker scene was really quick for how much it was prominently featured in the promo materials.  Flash's brief cameo capturing Boomerang was almost better than the two Batman cameos.

* I really liked the interaction between Bruce and Waller, but I had a few questions about it.  I know Waller knows everything, but is Bruce too old to care that much about his secret identity?  Including the Justice League trailer, Bruce is basically working as Batman in his Bruce Wayne persona a lot.  These are scenes that I expect Bruce to have in costume.  Instead of meeting with Amanda in a suit in a restaurant, I'd imagine that scene would take place on a rooftop as Batman.  It just feels a bit weird for Bruce to be doing so much of the work. 

* continued - And I'm still confused about why Bruce needs *more* information on Aquaman/Flash/etc.  The dossiers didn't seem that long, and he already has the information from Lex.  It just seems a bit of a retread.  Maybe Bruce just wants to be thorough.

All in all, I thought it was fun.  The first half of the movie is better than the second, but I didn't hate the second.  The action was pretty fun, and I liked the characters.  One thing that surprised me is that the movie really isn't very funny.  I can't think of any times, really, where I (or, really, anyone in the theater) laughed out loud.  There's comedy, sure, but I was surprised at how few genuinely funny scenes there were.

Oh and one last thing.  Just like Katana was tacked on, I thought there was some lazy writing with Slipknot.  His death was so telegraphed.  After every character (even Enchantress) gets an introduction with a flashback and a scene at Belle Reve....right before their first mission, "Oh, and here's Slipknot.  His power is whatever."  He gets one brief scene where you see that he's a bad guy and then he's simply a prop to show that Waller/Flagg can really kill them if they want.  They should've either pretended he was a real character (so we care whether he lives or dies) or use him to show how ruthless Waller is (maybe have a scene where she tricks him into thinking he can escape so he'll try - to basically sacrifice him to show that she's serious).  I just thought it was really lazy.

I'm disappointed that it's getting bad reviews, but I can see why people might not like it.  It's two different movies (setting up the characters and then going on a mission), and the characterization is definitely unbalanced.  What they get right (Harley, Deadshot) is good, what they get wrong (Joker) is bad., and then there are just a bunch of characters that are just there.  And I barely mentioned the plot, but there was a lot about it that didn't make a ton of sense (no one seemed to know what the mission was, I don't really know whether or not they were actually trying to kill Enchantress or not, a lot of time seems to pass between the initial attack and the Suicide Squad showing up - where were the other heroes?, etc).

So, yeah, there were issues.  But for what it is (and it knew what it was), I though it was enjoyable.

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He's been pretty good for years.  I'd completely forgotten about his appearance on Sliders.

ESPN is losing a lot of talent.  I've heard the network is in trouble due to some of the big contracts they've given out recently.  I've also heard they're cutting costs on talent because a) everyone wants to work for them and b) the games themselves are the draw - not the personalities.  Should be interesting to see what happens down the line.

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Well, I'm certainly not advocating continuing to use fossil fuels just for the sake of the miners.  But any level of investment would be better than the nothing that they're getting right now.

The problem is that the way to the presidency for Democrats is minorities and liberal affluent whites.  Poor whites aren't in the equation, and so they're getting ignored.  It's not just that Hillary lost them, but she hasn't even done much to court them back.  She doesn't care, or she knows making them any promises hurts her in other areas.

It's just odd that "stronger together" clearly doesn't mean everyone.

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I read them.  She's a good speaker, and she's trying to say the right thing.  Can we trust that she really has a plan?  I don't know.  But I do hope that she does because she's almost certainly going to be the next president, and these people deserve to be helped as much as anyone else in the country.  Or, at least, as much as she wants to help Syrian refugees.  These are hard-working Americans that want to work.  And both sides have really done a terrible job at doing anything to help entire towns that are dying off.

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Yeah, I'm excited too.  BvS was a movie I was wanting to see for a long time and got bogged down by a *ton* of expectations.  Suicide Squad is a movie that's sorta free of that.  People might be a little leery of a new Joker, but we've now had 3 Jokers in 30 years so we're sorta getting to the point where we expect a new look.  People also might have expectations for Harley, but it looks like they have her down pretty well.

I still think it's really bizarre that they're already doing the weird sorta spinoff movie this early.  I still think this is a bit of a risky movie at this point, just because it doesn't really fit in the overall story (again, like Guardians).  I still like the idea of doing an Aquaman/Flash/Cyborg movie (almost exactly like the trailer for Justice League) as the post-BvS movie.

But I'm seeing it tomorrow night.  I'll hopefully be able to put a review up Sunday.

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Well, on the Weekly Planet (a comics podcast I love) they were talking about Suicide Squad and said it's the movie most people were talking about.  I'm a week behind so they were talking about it before seeing it, and they were both really excited. 

For reference, neither thought it was particularly a great movie.  I didn't listen to his review yet, but his short twitter non-spoiler review said it was good but not great.  Going in, he expected it to be great.

So I'm sure it'll make money.  The question will be whether it has any traction for more than a week or two.  BvS made a ton of movie the first week and then died out due to word of mouth.  Suicide Squad needs to at least win this week and stay competitive the next couple weeks.

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Okay, but where are the programs to help those people?  I don't have any love for the coal industry, but these are people who want to work.  Who are willing to do hard work.  They mine coal because that's all their family has done for years.  They aren't going to get a job as engineers.  They aren't going to work for Goldman Sachs. 

Hillary (allegedly) cares about poor Hispanics and poor blacks and poor Syrian refugees.  But she's basically ignoring poor whites.  She doesn't need them to win, but it'd be nice if she pretended like she cared about them.

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Well, I think it's unfortunately that a group of people that have been historically forgotten by the US government is also getting painted with an unfair brush.  Are some poor whites also the same hardcore racists who are being loud and awful at Trump rallies?  Yes.  Absolutely.

But a lot of these people are proud people who work hard for their families.  And because there's a movement in the Democratic Party toward clean energy (which I agree with) and because the Republican Party tends to ignore poor people of any race, these people have no one speaking for them.  They've been living in their town for generations, and they've been doing one thing (digging coal, working in a factory, etc) for generations.  It's what they do.  Their way of living and their towns are dying, and no one has spoken for them.

Now Trump is speaking to them, and they're responding.  And either they don't know that Trump isn't really going to help them, or they know and don't care.  And I'm not sure which is more tragic.

But I'm glad someone is finally talking about this issue.  *Why* Trump has support is a much more important item than just getting mad that he has support.  If we don't address why he's popular then I don't think things will get better.  No matter how you define better.

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http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ … or-whites/

This is an interesting article about why people are voting Trump.

Hint: it isn't because they're all stupid and/or racist, despite what the media wants you to think.

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Yeah, I think if Trump were to drop out now, I think that'd only be good for the Republicans.  Hillary has set up her entire campaign to be anti-Trump, and she has a gigantic lead.  If she suddenly had to start talking policy instead of just fear-mongering about all the things Trump will do, I don't know if she could.

Some hardcore Trump people would stay home, but some would vote Pence because he was Trump's guy.  And, again, you'd get Republicans and Democrats who have someone "reasonable" to vote for against Hillary. 

I'm not saying he'd definitely beat her, but since most of Hillary's arguments are based on Trump, she'd have her work cut out for her to get back on message.

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Yeah but wouldn't that number be offset by #NeverTrump Republicans and #NeverHillaryorTrump Democrats?  Pence would bring in establishment Republicans who don't want Trump, and it'd give an option to #NeverHillary Democrats who were turned off by Trump.

I don't see Trump voters switching to Hillary because Pence is too establishment.  Hillary basically has the patent on establishment.

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I mean I don't disparage anyone for fearing Trump.  He's unpredictable.  I just don't really fear him.  He's not going to nuke Europe or drop out of NATO or build a wall and a bunch of concentration camps.  He's a buffoon and he's not capable of any of the fascist stuff people think he'll do.  I think he's much more likely to either quit after he wins (because he doesn't want to do the job) or get kicked out of office than do anything nefarious.

Hillary will go to war with Syria.  She will bring in a ton of refugees.  And she's going to have way more leash to do stuff she'll want to do because she has control over every Democratic congressman. 

Just my thoughts.

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Well, I've used Guardians a couple of times just because I think it's a movie that exists on pure fun.  I could've easily used something like Fast and the Furious, but that has a negative connotation (although I've only seen the most recent one and I liked it).

I agree that these aren't the same types of characters, but I think them being genuine bad guys should make the movie more fun.  Just a darker fun.  These are people who would get delight out of causing mayhem and destruction.  When Superman destroys Metropolis, we get a deeper moment because he feels bad that all that destruction happens.  When Harley Quinn defeats the bad guy and 50 civilians die, she celebrates.  The point is that she won, and the collateral damage is insignificant or irrelevant.

Now could they do a movie where that type of stuff happens and the protagonist is callous about it....and the movie end up being "fun" for the audience?  I don't know.  But it's a movie where big action pieces could happen with collateral damage but instead of it simply being an issue where the movie doesn't care about what happened to the nameless people who in the wrong place at the wrong time, they can actually build it into the story because the characters don't care.

If Ayer is doing what I think he's doing, I don't think these will be genuinely bad people.  They'll be conflicted people who've done genuinely evil things but now want, on some level, redemption.  And characters like the Joker are going to exist in the movie as a contrast.  He's the truly evil one - they can find good in themselves to differentiate themselves.

That's just a guess.

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I read that one of the issues with Suicide Squad is a disagreement about what it should be.  The studio wanted a lighter/fun movie about some bad guys doing good, and Ayer wanted to do a more somber movie about the motivations for these characters.  And the result is something sorta in the middle that doesn't really accomplish either of those.

Apparently the studio loved the first teaser trailer and even hired the company that made the teaser to do their own cut of the movie opposite of Ayer.  Which is a bizarre decision to say the least.

Again, this is why I think there needs to be a single person who can make decisions on this stuff.  Say what you want about Marvel movies, but they feel connected.  Even something like Guardians feels like an MCU film.  If someone like Geoff Johns was overseeing these movies (and, yes, I know he is now) then there wouldn't be so much discussion about what these movies are supposed to be because all this stuff would be planned out.

On this, apparently they had a release date before they even had a script, and Ayer had to write the movie in something like six weeks.  Marvel has the same sort of stuff (Ant-Man is the best example) but at least they had 10 movies under their belt by the time that came out.  If Guardians or Ant-Man had failed, it wouldn't derail the MCU.

If Suicide Squad isn't successful, that'll be mixed/rough reception for their first three movies.  And even if Wonder Woman looks amazing, people are going to be skeptical.  This stuff builds on itself - people overrate MCU movies because so many of them have been "fun."  It's going to be the opposite for DCCU movies if they aren't careful.

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I don't know that staying on Metropolis would have built that story or that world in the same way that moving forward did.

Yeah, but we talked about this after MoS.  In my opinion, the movie never moved on.  And people (not you, others) told me that the aftermath of Metropolis was going to be a huge part of the whole DCEU.  That it would all build off that moment. 

And I could see that.  Maybe that's what would inspire Batman and Flash and Wonder Woman and Aquaman and Cyborg to come out into the light.  Maybe Batman would be frightened, but maybe Barry would be inspired.  Aquaman and Diana would show up to protect their worlds from this new threat.

I saw trailers where it looks like Superman is standing trial for what happened.  He was being held accountable.  He was forced to defend what he did.

Then the movie came out.....and nope.  Man of Steel skipped over the aftermath of Metropolis, and BvS made it a side story.  That's not really Zack Snyder's fault because he showed at the end of MoS that the world didn't really think it was his fault.  It's joking about how hot Superman is and going to a basketball game in an already-rebuilt Metropolis.  Not sure why I expected more from BvS.

Reviews are coming in for Suicide Squad. Critics hate it, which makes me oddly more excited to see it.

Yeah.  I'm really looking forward to it.  One of my girlfriends is a huge Harley fan, and she got us all tickets a couple weeks ago.  The non-spoiler review I read said that it was fun but didn't make much sense.  And also mentioned that it could've been a fun Guardians-like movie, but it gets sorta bogged down by the world Snyder created.

I don't know.  I'm excited about it.

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I'd actually like to see a TOS era ship trying to survive in the TNG/DS9/VOY era.  We've always been on a ship that's been technologically superior.  The Enterprise was the Starfleet flagship, DS9 and the Defiant were pretty tough, and Voyager was the most advanced ship in the Delta Quadrant it seemed like.

Sorta like Beyond, actually.  What if a crew crashed and had to escape on a TOS-era ship.  They save the day and return to Earth.  And due to the Dominion War or whatever, they can't give them a new ship.  The new captain volunteers to use the old ship.  So they're using an outdated ship in a really uncertain time.  That would be cool, I think.

But, yeah, TF is probably right.  I've heard that story too.

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Yeah, I can see Russia being a problem in a Trump presidency, but I honestly can't tell you the best strategy for them.  If Putin wants to invade other countries, what's the proper reaction?  Isn't "World War 3" the only thing that comes out of that?  Whether Obama, Trump, Hillary, Biden, Pence, Kaine, Ted Cruz, whoever is president? 

I've seen the "buddy-buddy" argument, but what's the endgame for that in people's minds?  Is the US going to go to war with NATO because Russia invaded the Ukraine?  Just stay out of it completely?  Invade Ukraine ourselves to help them hold it?

I'm using a lot of hyperbole, but I'm honestly not sure exactly what a Putin-Trump friendship, if indeed they're friends, would even mean.  Is it better to deal with Putin passively (as people assume Trump would do) or meet him with force (as people assume Hillary would do).  Is that even a question we want to ask?

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Well, my fear with Superman being on the show is the eventual forcing of him to show up in the Arrowverse.  Legends of Tomorrow made a reference to Superman existing, but as far as we know, he doesn't exist on Earth-1.  If he does....then where is he?  Where has he been?  And would Superman being an active part of the Arrowverse change things too much?

If it was me, I would've moved Kara to Earth-1 (somehow) and have her be the only Kryptonian on Earth.  Maybe Krypton never blew up on Earth-1 so Kal-El and Kara are just hanging out there.  Or maybe Krypton never existed. 

You eliminate "why doesn't Clark show up?" by removing Clark from the equation.  But if Kara is going to stay in National City on Earth-Kara, then yeah, they needed to bring him on the show.

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Okay, but the question I'm continually coming back to is.....what are you actually afraid of when it comes to Donald Trump?  Yeah, he's a loudmouth.  Yeah,  he's an idiot.  Yeah, he's an egomaniac.  But outside of being, as you said, embarrassed to have him hold the office, I don't know what people are actually *afraid* of.

Hillary made reference to the fact that Trump shouldn't be trusted with nuclear weapons, but that attack is both baseless and sorta crazy.  Yes, the president is the commander-in-chief and controls the military, but he doesn't have a button in the Oval Office that just nukes countries.  That process, like almost everything, comes with a system of checks and balances so that stuff like that can't happen.  If Trump got mad at, say, Guatemala for some bullshit reason and wanted to nuke them, he'd end up under arrest before he ever actually did any damage to anyone else.  So either Hillary doesn't know that (which shows incompetence) or she's using the same sort of baseless fear tactic that Trump is using (it's the latter).

He'd be a terrible, awful president.  I will not vote for him.  But when people say they're afraid of him, I'm not quite sure what to be afraid of.  He's not going to be able to deport all muslims or all Mexicans.  Even if he wanted to, he wouldn't be able to.  And the more I think about it, I don't think there's any chance in Hell he could even break ground on his Mexico wall in four years.  It took way longer than that to break ground on One World Trade Center, and that's something everyone in the country wanted to get done.  If elected, the wall would just be cancelled by whoever wins in 2020 with the only cost to the taxpayer being whatever committee was hired to find a contractor to build the damn thing.

The stuff to fear with Hillary is more tangible.  That she's been bought by the banks.  That she has a history of getting rid of leaders and leaving countries worse than they were before.  That she has a lady boner for Syria and wants to go in there.  That she wants to take in a *ton* of Syrian refugees when ISIS has already said they're planning on sneaking in terrorists through refugees.

She also has her ambiguous fears.  Is she going to flip-flop on stuff like TPP, breaking up the banks, gay marriage (stuff she's only recently started supporting)?  Do the Russians already have dirt on her that they can use against her via those deleted emails?  Are she and Obama unequipped to handle ISIS, seeing that it's grown out of control under their watch?  Is four more years of what we're getting actually the right path?

Trump sucks.  I get it.  But with him, the problems are nebulous.  And considering the fact that he's not talking policy, I have to assume he has no policy.  Yeah, he'd hire a conservative judge or two.  But I honestly think he'd just end up doing a lot of nothing, and if he tries to do something illegal/immoral, his lack of support among the Republican establishment makes it the most likely impeachment in the history of the country.

Hillary has so much power in the democratic party that she could be on trial for murder and she wouldn't get impeached. 

So until I get more concrete fears, I'm going to be more scared of her than him.  But, just to be clear, I'm not voting for either.

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I don't think it warrants its own post, but I really enjoyed Star Trek: Beyond.  I thought it was a lot of fun, and it was the most complete movie of the series IMO.  Some pretty cool ties to the Trek universe as a whole(including a few references to Enterprise).

Anton Yelchin was great.  Made me really sad that he's gone.

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I love that.  DC needs to hire the Holy Trinity of the Sliders BBoard to write Justice League 2 big_smile

If they were going to do "older Batman" (which, the dead horse says, I wasn't in favor of), I *love* the idea that Superman was a fan of Batman.  Because how couldn't he have been?  Batman is supposedly in his 40s in BvS.  So he would've been active for 10-15 years?  Superman is supposed to be in his early 30s.  So even if Clark wasn't young enough to be Batman for Halloween, he was a teenager when Batman was just getting started.  As I've said before, I think it could be a really cool DCCU Elseworld to have a story where Clark becomes the first Robin.  Maybe after the death of Pa Kent?

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Yeah, I just think they could've gotten the same place at the same time without the bloating.  I don't necessarily think the movie needed to go to Africa.  Congress could've (and should've - it's unknown if they did) held hearings on what happened in Metropolis where American citizens did die.  I don't think Lex and Doomsday necessarily needed to be in the film.  I don't necessarily think Wonder Woman needed to be in the film.  And whether you liked any of that stuff (I thought Diana was great in her limited time - Lex not so much), those elements took away from time that could've been used elsewhere. 

Superman didn't need a controversial inciting incident - he had one in Man of Steel.  Any time spent on Diana could've been spent on Superman.  Any time spent on Lex could've been spent on Bruce.  What if the cameos by Flash/Cyborg/Aquaman (and heck, Diana) were Bruce putting together pieces to make an Amazo-like android who could finish the job if Batman failed? 

So the movie opens with Batman on patrol with Jason Todd.  A villain gets the better of them, and Batman is a step slow in saving Jason.  He's older and doesn't have it anymore.  He snaps and kills the villain.  He gives up the cape and the cowl, and he goes full Bruce Wayne businessman.  And yet Batman calls to him - getting revenge didn't make the pain go away.  Flash forward X months/years and the Battle of Metropolis happens.  And all the feelings come back.  Bruce knows he only has a short amount of time and *this* revenge will make things better.  It will make everything matter again.

Superman is doing is best to make up for Metropolis.  Some people are scared, some people think he's great.  Some *hate* him - some *worship* him.  It's a mess.  The government wants to hold hearings about it.  Clark doesn't know what to think.  He just wants to save people.

Batman comes up with a three-pronged plan.  Find out who Superman is (detective), find out what hurts him (detective), and kill him.  The first and second act is Bruce implementing this plan as Batman.  He's brutal and scary.  While Clark is trying to find common ground with Superman, he gets interested in the Batman story.  This was a hero who Clark grew up loving.  He went as Batman for Halloween at one point.  This new guy can't be Batman.  Something is wrong.

Batman finds out Clark is Superman.  Clark catches Batman snooping and finds out Batman is Bruce.  Clark (journalism) finds out about Jason Todd.  Dick Grayson.  Barbara Gordon.  The Waynes.  All the death.  How it impacts people.  And he starts to look into all the pain caused by what happened in Metropolis.

He goes to Congress and basically admits that he was responsible.  He should've been better.  He will be better.  Some of the congressmen want to see him taken away.  Some don't.  Superman leaves before it's resolved - Batman sees this as him being a fugitive.  He starts on phase three of his plan.  He's found out about Kryptonite, but he's not sure it's enough.  He starts his backup plan.

Clark goes back to trying to save Bruce.  But Bruce is gone.  Batman is gone.  No one can find either.  That's because Bruce is around the world.  He's found an android built by Silas Stone.  He's found a powerful Amazon warrior.  An Atlantean king.  The fastest man alive. 

Batman attacks Superman.  They fight.  Batman is brutal but Superman is trying to get through to Bruce.  It doesn't work.  Superman has to fight back or he's going to die.  *whatever Martha moment you want* They find common ground.  Superman saves Batman.  Then Amazo shows up - it's as fast and strong as Superman but can fight like Batman.  Batman helps Superman defeat it.

They form an alliance.  Bruce says he knows others that can help.  End of movie.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again - I'd love it if most of the minor characters in these shows had contracts like this.  Felicity works well with the others.  So does Cisco.  These characters should be floating around, offering to help whenever they can.  The main guys should be on their own shows and mix up for crossovers, but everyone else should be fluid.  I think it's such a cool idea.

I'm guessing Flashpoint resurrects both Cold and Laurel.