The more I think about it, the more I think the original cast is a liability to a revival. A reboot lets you start flesh and get it right the this time. A revival is constantly about tidying up the past.
4,621 2015-07-05 13:54:14
Re: Tracy Torme, Dark Matters Interview, February 2015 (31 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
4,622 2015-07-05 11:22:02
Re: Community: Welcome to Greendale, you're already accepted! (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I don't think it can be avoided that some of the cast are permanently Greendaled. Jeff, Britta, the Dean and Chang are probably lifers and that's fine. They're adults, they bounced around out in the world and Greendale is where they ended up. So maybe Annie is spending a year teaching a forensics class at Greendale as a working sabbatical and Troy came to campus to spend two days installing a new fire sprinkler system and never got around to leaving and Abed is on campus shooting a college romantic comedy and decides to make our new character the leading role and use that as an entry point to Greendale's craziness.
4,623 2015-07-05 10:41:06
Re: Rewatch Podcast (354 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
You know, it'd be interesting to one day have a Rewatch Podcast episode edited by Jim of Sliderscast and to have a Sliderscast episode edited by Cory.
I did notice Quinn reacting with laughter to Rembrandt's jokes?
Interestingly, Jerry and Quinn were completely opposed; Jerry thought the women-only world was awesome, which goes to show how very, very talented Jerry can be.
4,624 2015-07-04 19:48:21
Re: Tracy Torme, Dark Matters Interview, February 2015 (31 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
So, shall we use this thread for that old favourite of our topics? How would we revive SLIDERS? The reboot option with a new cast is the most general audience friendly. Gregory Smith as Quinn. Allison Mack as Wade. Colin Salmon as Rembrandt. Victor Garber as Arturo. But with the original cast... ?
I think a direct sequel is out. I've experimented a bit with a quick prequel to reveal that Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo were reunited immediately after "The Seer" -- and that ultimately dooms you to addressing the S3 - S5 plots even obliquely. Also, the general audience isn't going to have any memory of all the stories being undone.
With STAR TREK and TERMINATOR, there's a new trend of rebootquels. Revisiting the original events but with the idea that events have been altered through time travel, allowing the original story to be retold with a different plot and a new outcome. So, what would SLIDERS' rebootquel be?
The thing I found neat about TREK and TERMINATOR: time travel is used to indicate that these aren't alternate versions of the original characters. It's the original characters leading alternate lives.
Would there be a way to put the original sliders in an alternate version of the Pilot in 2015? While making it clear that these are the 1995 sliders for whom reality has been rewritten?
4,625 2015-07-03 22:56:20
Re: Personal Status Updates! (759 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Hey, I need advice! My Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4, arguably the finest mini tablet ever made -- has developed a weird split between the frame and the screen. The screen is coming loose. Thankfully, I bought the extended warranty ($60 USD) and the shop says they'll let me trade in my broken tablet for a new one. However, I'll need to buy another $60 extended warranty if the new one develops a fault and I want a subsequent replacement. Would you guys take that deal or would you just take the replacement tablet and hope for the best?
4,626 2015-07-03 21:49:48
Re: Personal Status Updates! (759 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I had a weird Netflix experience. I was watching SWITCHED AT BIRTH, which has lengthy segments in sign language. I was watching it on my Windows 7 HTPC, but when moving to my Windows 8 laptop, I switched into the Netflix Windows 8 app. And all the subtitles were gone! I had no ability to understand the sign language conversations.
But when I used the browser, the subtitle graphics were back on the very same scenes in which they were absent in the app!
Peculiar.
4,627 2015-07-03 19:47:30
Re: Rewatch Podcast (354 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
My God, Tom and Cory are great on this show! Faith in life restored! Whew, that was close.
4,628 2015-07-03 19:47:01
Re: Tracy Torme, Dark Matters Interview, February 2015 (31 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
They start talking SLIDERS at the 42 minute mark. Basically saying that there's no hope for SLIDERS returning.
Sad now. My life is ruined.
4,629 2015-07-03 15:55:45
Re: Community: Welcome to Greendale, you're already accepted! (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I did not understand anything you just wrote, so I think it must be absolutely brilliant.
I admit, having a new female character serve as an entry point to an existing property is something of a crutch for me.
But. I think COMMUNITY, after six seasons, is designed to take place on the Greendale campus and that's probably where the movie should be set.
4,630 2015-07-03 13:14:02
Re: Personal Status Updates! (759 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Sounds like it's going well!
I went back and rewrote "Reprise" to match the filmed version of "The Seer," mostly, aside from dropping a few lines of dialogue. And then replaced the file. Ah, obsessiveness.
4,631 2015-07-03 12:52:22
Re: Community: Welcome to Greendale, you're already accepted! (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I'm just not sure if it'd work as a movie. Even the 3-part paintball episode run together would only be a 66-70 minute movie (at most). Even a 90-minute movie (which is pretty short these days, even for comedies) would be a 4 or 5 part episode. Is that too much time? Would it be enough Community-style comedy, or would it also have to have ridiculous action/romantic subplots just to fill time?
I would probably introduce a new character. Probably a 19-year-old girl played by Anna Kendrick or Saoirse Ronan who has experienced some unspecified nervous breakdown that caused her to lose out on real college and have to settle for loser college, and set it up as being just like all those mediocre romantic comedies about college students -- except that in this case, the college turns out to be Greendale and Greendale is completely ****ing insane.
Jeff is the Dean. Craig is teaching gender studies. Britta is the school counselor. Annie washed out of the FBI and is now running school security. Shirley runs the cafeteria. Troy returned but lost all of Pierce's money investing in something stupid and is now a janitor and Abed has rebooted himself into a first-year community college student in the belief that he can start again. And our new character finds herself involved in the usual Greendale craziness.
4,632 2015-07-03 11:20:07
Re: Interview - Robert Floyd Looks Back on SLIDERS! (17 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
On Jerry -- I think he was hungover on set in Season 4. I think it was the tail-end of a downward spiral. In Vancouver, Jerry lived like a normal guy. He went to work, went to the gym, went home, lived a quiet and low-key life. His attitude to acting was always been to play himself regardless of the role. He could get away with that because he had all the technical skills (memorization, hitting his marks, meeting his cues, blocking his scenes) and because he has a natural onscreen charisma. Match that with excellent scripting from S1/S2 writers and his reverence for John Rhys-Davies and John coaching him and Quinn came off as a multifaceted character.
Then Jerry moved to LA. It became all about the night life with making the show as something to do between binge drinking sessions, an attitude shared by the producers. Jerry continued to play himself and now Quinn was a smug, flirtatious, arrogant, brash screen presence and Jerry was only occasionally in character. And by Season 4, Jerry wouldn't even play that most of the time. He is clearly hungover in "Common Ground" and "My Brother's Keeper" and I think Charlie O'Connell, later revealed to be an alcoholic, was enabling him. The scripts in Season 4 were also terrible for Quinn: only in "World Killer" and "The Alternateville Horror" is Quinn scripted as an adventurous moral crusader who is delighted by big ideas; the rest portrayed Quinn as a bland action hero.
Season 5 -- I think that because the producers weren't expecting much, they also weren't asking much. So I guess it was an easy job working on that set and people were having fun making the show even if they weren't making anything good. I mean, you look at X-FILES episodes at the time and you have really ambitious direction and scripting whereas with SLIDERS, the visuals are just people jogging around beige hallways. I don't doubt it was fun to make; it just wasn't fun to watch.
I would have liked Robert Floyd to have played Quinn from the Pilot onward.
4,633 2015-07-02 22:33:12
Re: Interview - Robert Floyd Looks Back on SLIDERS! (17 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I think Season 5 had a lot of potential. Yeah, losing Jerry was a blow. But the truth is, Jerry had mentally quit the show by Season 3 anyway. The writers found a *very* interesting way to keep Quinn on the show even without Jerry. They had a really neat character arc for Diana Davis where the plan was for her to be secretly on Geiger's side for the whole season. The Season 5 cast was the best lineup for the show since Season 1/2. Rob, Tembi, Cleavant and Kari had a really terrific sense of chemistry and all four were very strong performers. The freelance scripts were also fantastic. An interdimensional library! Mind-controlled sliding machines! A mental asylum for the imaginative! A world where caffeine is illegal! A world with the customer service experience from hell!
And then, for various reasons, it was all very badly realized onscreen. The arcs for Quinn-2 and Diana were excised. All the freelance scripts were cut down for the budget, but they were cut down so *clumsily*. And the production continued to make bad choices: cutting episodic budgets to save up for an epic finale they didn't end up filming. Renting a huge hotel set that they then had to use in every episode that drained their funds for other expenses. The production kept aiming to do what was easy. And honestly, the budget isn't an excuse: DOCTOR WHO had even less money than Season 5 and generally managed to cobble things together.
Instead of maintaining a single standing set, Season 5 should have rented studio space that could be converted to different interiors -- hotels, train stations, cafes, military bases, bunkers, hallways. Episodes should have been rewritten to exist in 2 - 3 interior locations with dialogue indicating a vast world outside the studio walls. Exterior shots would need to be filmed tightly on the actors with different backgrounds wheeled in and out. The vortex should have stayed offscreen for most of the season, or they could have made a library of really close-up shots of the vortex that could be recoloured to match other shots. The sad truth is that the Season 5 writers and producers just weren't bringing their A-game.
I love Rob, but for the fans, SLIDERS was better off cancelled. And I disagree with the fans that the cliffhanger was a slap in the face. Ending on Rembrandt leaping into the vortex was the only meaningful gift the show had left to offer: the distant hope that something better would be on the other side -- something better than what the Season 5 creators could be bothered to give us.
4,634 2015-07-02 15:32:28
Re: Heroes Reborn on NBC (55 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Hmm. It could be a tease. I was watching "Collision," where Future Hiro first appeared -- the footage of the older Hiro in the REBORN trailer actually looks like it was lifted from that episode.
Or they refilmed it for some reason.
4,635 2015-07-02 15:27:03
Re: Interview - Robert Floyd Looks Back on SLIDERS! (17 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I don't see where it was forced. Rob has expressed his willingness to impersonate Jerry, described his skillful preparation in doing so and he was clearly capable of doing it. And they had a great angle: he wouldn't just be a copy of Jerry because the dual-identity would mean he would be his own character. Jerry never argued with himself in one body; Jerry never played a split consciousness. Season 5 had a great character arc and the perfect actor and then they lost it for some reason.
4,636 2015-07-01 18:58:23
Re: Rewatch Podcast (354 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I enjoyed the "El Sid" and "Love Gods" podcast too! I wish they were longer; I love listening to Cory and Tom during my commutes.
I don't have a lot to say about "El Sid" as an episode. Cory and Tom did a great job exploring Arturo's morality in that his 'betrayal' does point to a lot of angry feelings towards Quinn. "El Sid," to me, is a well-intentioned misfire. The main problem for me, aside from too little script, is that I don't enjoy seeing the sliders at each others' throats. I understand the show wanting to vary the interaction a bit. They don't always get on. I just found it ugly and unappealing and I prefer it when sliders arguing is played for laughs.
"Love Gods" is a fun action episode with a hilarious concept, but the breeding program makes no sense whatsoever. There is no way a world this developed could fail to develop in-vitro fertilization. The only explanation I can conceive is that the virus affected even surviving men in some way that their sperm cannot retain viability in storage for some reason. God, world-building is so hard.
I'd disagree with Cory and Tom saying that Quinn was in any way enthused about being so in demand. Jerry plays Quinn as completely disgusted and repulsed throughout the episode. This is not a guy who has any patience or enjoyment for being objectified. Quinn Mallory has a sense of the big picture. This is part of why the character is so special to me. As a kid, I was really confused by girls and hormonal impulses. Quinn's frustration throughout the episode clarified things for me; he wants to be liked for the whole of who he is in body and mind. He's not exactly prudish, but losing his father as a boy makes him hesitate to produce offspring he wouldn't be there to raise. I really felt that in this absurd episode, Quinn Mallory was revealed as everything a man should be in relating to women.
Funny how in the two episodes where Quinn probably had sex (this and "Double Cross"), the show puts in some wiggle room!
4,637 2015-07-01 18:36:49
Re: Interview - Robert Floyd Looks Back on SLIDERS! (17 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
The one thing I'm really pleased about -- I'm glad we finally dealt with that ridiculous message board rumour that Rob approached the producers and asked them to delete Quinn from Mallory. It was a groundless, unsourced, and in some ways malicious remark and I'm glad I was able to ask Rob about it so he could definitively declare that to be untrue.
4,638 2015-06-30 20:42:39
Re: Interview - Robert Floyd Looks Back on SLIDERS! (17 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Hmm. I'll see if I can edit it together. In other news:
From: ireactions | To: David Gerrold
Dear Mr. Gerrold. I recently interviewed Robert Floyd ("Mallory" from SLIDERS) and asked him: what was his favourite episode of SLIDERS? It was yours. Congratulations.
4,639 2015-06-30 20:21:04
Re: Interview - Robert Floyd Looks Back on SLIDERS! (17 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
The audio quality isn't terrific. I loaded up Skype on my tablet and dialed Rob's number. I plugged an audio cable into the tablet's jack and connected that to the microphone input on my voice recorder. So, it sounds like a Skype-quality call with a few moments of distortion -- fine for conversation, but I don't know how much you'd enjoy hearing it. This also records only Rob's end of the conversation. I had to record my end on the only other recording device I had -- my smartphone. And again, the audio quality is acceptable for conversation but not great for listening.
In the end, I transcribed both sides and put it together in a PDF (that's at the end of the web article), so if you want to read a mostly unedited version, it's there. I moved some of Rob's answers around a bit -- for example, he talked about why he left his acting career *before* we started talking about "The Seer," but I decided to move that to after his wishes for Season 6. There were also a couple instances where I lost the audio, but could get the gist of what he was saying -- basically that there were a lot of freelance scripts for Season 5 because of the small writing staff and it put a lot of pressure on the few staff writers.
There's also a bit at the end of the transcript where I started crying a little.
ROB FLOYD: "Are you watching GAME OF THRONES?"
ME: "Hmm. It’s not really my thing. I’m more into shows like THE FLASH."
ROB FLOYD: "Oh, yeah, yeah. I have not seen that, I'm going to marathon that too."
ME: "But I’ve heard lots of great things about GAME OF THRONES!"
ROB FLOYD: "Yeah. You know -- the effects -- I marathoned a lot of it last night and the effects are unbelievable! And I read the books too. I was thinking of the battle scenes and thinking so much was never done with the Kromaggs."
ME: "Yeah. Sci-Fi Channel budget. What can you do, right? I guess, for me -- TV is like a friend. It’s comfort. It’s there for you at your best and worst. And sometimes it has a bad day. And sometimes it loses three-quarters of the cast and gets the budget cut by a third and is dragged out for season after season for syndication while losing everything that made it special and failing to give great actors like you the material they deserve and then it gets cancelled and goes away forever. And-and-and-and -- and that’s okay. Because everything has to."
ROB FLOYD: " ... oh. Right. Right."
4,640 2015-06-30 16:57:36
Re: Personal Status Updates! (759 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
*sigh*
Two things. First, in preparation for the Rob Floyd interview, I rewatched the closing scenes of "The Seer." And I was horrified to realize -- I messed up my SLIDERS REBORN prequel. "Reprise"'s description and dialogue of "The Seer" -- I copied it out of one of the scripts. Clearly the wrong draft. It doesn't match what was actually filmed, who said which lines, the physical action -- even the final line of dialogue is wrong. Total screw up!
That's embarrassing.
Second, I'm working on the first segment of SLIDERS REBORN's Part 2. Nigel Mitchell kindly rewrote the alt-history for me. And it's going fine, but it's so dark! So grim. I'm not having fun.
It feels like work, for God's sake. It is now more obvious than ever to me that I don't really want to write SLIDERS. I want to write episodes of COMMUNITY with Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo -- and I will totally get back to that at the 1/3 mark, but this 1/3 is so grim.
Thank God tomorrow's a holiday and I can power-drive through the whole script.
4,641 2015-06-30 16:51:18
Re: Community: Welcome to Greendale, you're already accepted! (23 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Yeah. I really didn't want this to be the last season. Week after week, I was visiting my friend Laurie, exclaiming that this week was the greatest episode of COMMUNITY ever made. The introduction of Frankie Dart. The crisis room story. The Honda episode. The giant hand episode. The spy movie spoof. COMMUNITY kept hitting new heights of experimental inventiveness. I didn't want it to ever stop. I dreaded the season finale and urgently awaited news of Season 7 --
But then the finale came and it pointed out that Abed and Annie needed lives outside Greendale. That Jeff and Britta might belong there, but Shirley and Troy having left wasn't cause for sadness -- they had to move on eventually. The fact that Jeff and Britta and the Dean and Chang were still at Greendale -- the truth is that they had settled for Greendale, but anyone who didn't have to shouldn't.
And with Jeff and Annie, the show acknowledged that yes, there is a lot holding the characters together. And the fans want to see them stay together. But the story demands that some of them move on, and so does reality with everyone's six year contracts expiring with this season. I didn't want this to be the last episode. But the finale made me feel like it was okay.
The final hashtag made me miss SLIDERS more than ever.
4,642 2015-06-30 16:09:49
Re: Bboard Updates and Registration (58 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Thank me by posting lots and lots!
4,643 2015-06-30 16:09:31
Re: Heroes Reborn on NBC (55 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Agreed. Which makes what was in the trailer so intriguing -- because somebody actually grew up, if that visual is anything to go on.
Unless it's a fake out?
4,644 2015-06-29 20:02:53
Re: Rewatch Podcast (354 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
The new format is superb!
4,645 2015-06-29 20:01:04
Re: SlidersCast: Rewatching the show one podcast at a time (51 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
When I go here:
http://ianmcduffie.bigcartel.com/produc … -anthology
I get this message:
We’re closed at the moment
Things should be resolved shortly, please check back soon.
4,646 2015-06-29 19:43:17
Re: SlidersCast: Rewatching the show one podcast at a time (51 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I have *never* been able to get Ian's online store to work. Damn it, Ian! Go to Ian's website and E-mail him. Offer to send him the money via PayPal and he'll send you the book, as he did for me (if he has any copies left).
I've never read the comic, but I felt I owed it to Ian to support this enterprise. "Paradise Lost" -- I've blocked it out of my memory.
4,647 2015-06-29 01:34:25
Re: Personal Status Updates! (759 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Reddit's cool. But at the end of the day, it's just a message board and on Sliders.tv, you can feel free to go off-topic and personal!
**
After months of using Other Web Browsers on my mini-laptop, Google Chrome is finally working! Well, the portable version of Chrome is working without crashing every two minutes. I've tried Maxthon, Internet Explorer, Opera and all of them had weird performance issues, which serves me right for buying a computer with 2GB of RAM and an Intel Atom processor that wasn't yet compatible with Chrome. Man. What a mistake the Asus T100TA has been.
I thought that, since I have my super-powerful HTPC in the living room serving as my desktop, a low-powered 10-inch laptop would be good enough for when I want to type in the bedroom or work at the coffee shop. But it hasn't been good enough at all; I have to do a lot of web data entry on this thing and either Chrome would crash or the other browsers would freeze up halfway in. For God's sake. My next laptop is i3-Intel with 4GB of RAM minimum.
**
My doctor has advised that I reduce my caffeine intake, so I've switched to decaf for the placebo effect. For years, coffee was either Tim Horton's or 8 O'Clock beans ground before drip-brewing. And after trying a lot of what's out there, my decaf of choice is supermarket Folgers with a dash of salt and cinnamon. I have painfully pedestrian tastes, but at least it's cheap.
4,648 2015-06-27 15:57:47
Re: Rewatch Podcast (354 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I really enjoyed the most recent podcast. I'd politely disagree about the ending of "Into the Mystic." I've always found it haunting, eerie, tragic and logical. The sliders could make it home and not recognize it. There is no way they can ever get home and be sure it's home. I would be interested in better understanding why you guys disliked it; was it badly written? Was it poorly conceived? Did it reflect badly on SLIDERS? I don't think so.
I also gently disagree with the criticisms of the teaser. Having Quinn wake up would have been a bit flat; showing the eerie image of his own headstone was far more striking and compelling.
I think you guys were bang on about "Time Again and World." The episode is baffling with many scenes providing seemingly vital information that doesn't add up to anything. The plot makes no sense whatsoever with the plan to read the Constitution on pirate radio when the Internet is functional and usable. I liked Cory's humility in saying he was relieved to hear that Tom didn't understand the episode either.
4,649 2015-06-26 13:30:46
Re: Heroes Reborn on NBC (55 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
http://www.blastr.com/2015-6-25/first-t … -be-heroes
A synopsis of what HEROES REBORN will cover. I have to say, the marketing is making all the right statements. Ordinary people. Crazy situations. The focus on new characters is very wise. The idea that Noah, Angela, Matt, Mohinder, René, Micah, and Hiro will be supporting characters in the new characters' stories sounds effective and fitting. Maybe Peter, Sylar, Claire, Tracy and others are doing other things in this world and the focus is on a different set of people -- which is what Seasons 2 - 4 of HEROES should have done anyway.
SPOILER
One of the things that drove me crazy about HEROES: glimpses of the future in Season 1 revealed that Hiro, in half a decade's time, would become a capable, skillful superhero. But Seasons 2 - 3 muddled his character so much that by Season 4, Hiro was still the clumsy incompetent he'd been in Season 1. It was something of a relief to see Hiro in this trailer as the future Hiro who appeared in Season 1, suggesting the hiatus has been good for Tim Kring to think things through properly.
4,650 2015-06-25 21:24:03
Re: Heroes Reborn on NBC (55 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHClJhC8Wfs
Trailer for HEROES REBORN. God help me, seeing a certain someone finally achieve his destiny -- I actually got excited.
4,651 2015-06-23 20:53:59
Re: Heroes Reborn on NBC (55 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I sometimes wonder if the problem in the HEROES writers room was the lack of leadership. The constant changing and altering of people's powers. The inability to give Sylar a consistent character arc that wasn't abandoned for something else entirely. The inability to write Eve as the same character. The inexplicable declaration that the heroes and villains' powers came from the eclipse when they'd plainly established that the powers were from genetic factors unrelated to the sun. This strikes me as many different voices with contrary wishes and no one leading them towards a common goal.
Which makes me think that Tim Kring should hire someone to be the story editor and focus on the more practical aspects of production.
I hear Tracy Torme is available.
4,652 2015-06-23 20:03:05
Re: Personal Status Updates! (759 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
How is your dog? I remember you telling us that the tests were (drumroll) inconclusive.
Yeah, including Laurie in SLIDERS REBORN may not have been the best strategic move. I guess, in my mind -- I love Quinn. I love Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo. They're my treasured imaginary friends. The sliders. And I love Laurie. Of course I would make her one of them. A slider. And then I screwed up and I was pretty sure I'd lost my friend. And I just couldn't write the Quinn and Laurel scenes and what they are to each other.
(It's not sexual or romantic.)
Anyway. Laurie's back. Laurel Hills will be fine. The sliders will return in July.
4,653 2015-06-23 19:55:05
Re: DC Superheroes in Film (1943 - 2024) (1,098 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Well. I'll see it before I judge.
4,654 2015-06-23 16:37:30
Re: Personal Status Updates! (759 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
So, SLIDERS REBORN, my insane 20th anniversary special, features a new character. A twisted 15-year-old girl named Laurel Hills who serves as -- well, let's be blunt. She's a plot device to reunite Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo in 2015. Laurel is based on a (20-year-old) friend of mine who once told me she felt completely and totally out of sync with reality. I pissed off the real-life Laurel and she wasn't talking to me for awhile.
I tried to escape into the world(s) of SLIDERS REBORN. And couldn't. Much to my horror, I couldn't write Laurel Hills without the real-world version of her around. I had alienated my muse.
Thankfully, we patched things up and I have been able to resume my efforts. However, Part 2 of SLIDERS REBORN is going to be a bit late -- it'll come on July 30, 2015 instead of July 30 as planned. Nigel Mitchell can confirm that the entire story outline is complete -- I just got delayed in converting it into script.
So let this be a lesson to you all. Never piss off the people you write about until *after* you've scripted all their dialogue.
4,655 2015-06-23 16:13:32
Topic: Heroes Reborn on NBC (55 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
Okay. So HEROES is returning. With a bunch of new characters and a bunch of old ones.
On one level, I think this could be an effective return to Season 1's original intent: extraordinary situations, ordinary people discovering they have superpowers for the first time. A combination of characters who still have places to go or something to offer after the long hiatus (Parkman, Hiro, Noah Bennett, Angela Petrelli, Mohinder, Micah) and plenty of new characters to take center stage.
On another level... it's run by Tim Kring and after TOUCH, I've concluded that Kring is a great producer and a terrible writer. A Tim Kring show has beautiful locations, excellent directors, stunning music, star-studded casts and scripts that punch above the writer's weight. Kring has all these beautiful themes of interconnected fates and intertwined lives, but he hasn't the plotting or dialogue to make them anything other than nonsensical set-pieces. Characters behave nonsensically to further or stall the plot. Stories get written into corners and then absurd contrivances excuse Kring from consequences. Without Bryan Fuller on staff, Kring is clueless. So I can only hope that on HEROES REBORN, he's found some good talent and taken a step back.
4,656 2015-06-22 15:56:57
Re: DC Superheroes on TV & Streaming (1966 - 2024) (1,683 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
So, that ARROW finale... kind of boring. I didn't like the whole League of Assassins arc at all. I guess the main problem for me is, I don't understand the League's motives at all. They're a shadowy society of secrets that do malicious and evil things because... they're malicious and evil? I don't understand what they gain, what they want, what they're out for. They kill people because. They want power because. They use that power to get more power for something. I don't get it. With Slade and Merlyn, there was motive and reasoning even if it was extreme and crazy. With the League, they're just extreme and crazy.
4,657 2015-06-22 15:19:20
Re: Rewatch Podcast (354 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
So, not to embarrass anyone, but the Sliders Rewatch originated as a truly ghastly podcast by Cory and Karen. It was very obvious from the first episode that Cory and Karen loved SLIDERS; it was also very obvious that they lacked the vocal presence to convey that love in a podcast. They are slow, hesitant, overly-deliberate speakers -- and you know, there's nothing wrong with that, but it made for a truly slumber-inducing podcast. I had to stop listening to it for the safety of myself and others -- which is to say I listen to podcasts when driving and Cory and Karen were making me so sleepy that I had to turn them off or risk an accident.
But now we have a reboot with Tom2Point0 and Cory. And I have to say, Tom is that peculiar X-Factor -- that missing ingredient of elusive definition who, injected into the Sliders Rewatch, suddenly amps it up from sedating to spectacular. Tom's commanding vocal presence and sly humour is ideal for podcasts and he bounces off Cory perfectly. Cory is the ideal contrast to Tom's voice; higher pitched and more thoughtful and calculated, and where with Karen, Cory was incredibly dull -- well, with Tom, Cory's voice suddenly becomes earnest and heartfelt and this partnership is just ideal.
I really enjoy the format of two episodes per podcast. I love listening to Dan and Jim and Ian talking for 82 minutes about "In Dinos Veritas" on SLIDERS as a more informal gab-fest between friends, but there's something very crisp, professional and compact about Sliders Rewatch. Neither is better; they're just different products with different aims and the contrast is flattering to both. I particularly like how Cory and Tom have a very affectionately admiring take on SLIDERS, such as noting how Quinn in the Pilot inexplicably points the timer at the sky when seeking to escape a tornado or how Rembrandt's plan to rescue Quinn from the CDC in "Fever" consists of driving up to the building and waiting for Quinn to escape.
They're all done with Season 1 now and they've done a great job. I'm eager to hear them take on Seasons 2 - 5 and I am very pleased to see that this reboot with Sliders Rewatch has become a great success. Congratulations to Tom and Cory. Well done! Fix your website. Oh my God, the dark blue on black is unreadable. (Not that I can talk; it took me a month to fix Sliders.tv because I'd been so distracted by some personal affairs.)
4,658 2015-06-21 18:47:31
Topic: Interview - Robert Floyd Looks Back on SLIDERS! (17 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
rafproductions2014-10-19 07:09:55
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IP: 76.170.0.193Just a quick second to say how thrilled I was to see the Sliders Board! God I loved doing that show and how cool all the fans of it were. I was really lucky to follow such an amazing talent like Jerry. He really was and is a brilliant actor and a terrific guy. I do hope you all get to meet him. The rest of the cast were just incredible. It really was one of the greatest times of my life.
After Sliders I worked a good bit, but I had to leave acting when I was doing Dark Angel. I was a single dad and traveling with my two young boys all the time- it was too rough a life for us. Funny, I went back to bartending and enjoy every day there. I really love trying to make people happy.
I will continue to follow the boards, I love the opinions about all the different shows!
Best,
Rob
After Rob posted on Sliders.tv last year, I sent him an E-mail. Recently, he set aside some time and we had a 100 minute phone conversation that I converted into a web article. I wanted the article to represent Rob's life before and after SLIDERS, but I think fans will naturally be most fascinated by Rob sharing the process and deliberation behind his acting in Season 5.
http://earthprime.com/interviews/robert … looks-back
My gratitude goes to Rob and also to Temporal Flux. It's thanks to TF giving SLIDERS fans a place to gather that Rob was able to reach out to the fans.
4,659 2015-06-21 18:10:21
Re: THE BUILDING (née PARALLELS) (24 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
I thought the PARALLELS pilot was an interesting vision of what could have been a new version SLIDERS. My revival effort, SLIDERS REBORN, is something for those fans who long to know that Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo are alive and well. But a more realistic SLIDERS revival would be something like PARALLELS: the alternate universe concept with a very different set of characters.
I would have been okay with PARALLELS being released with the title SLIDERS. Pretending for a moment that PARALLELS is SLIDERS: it's a neat reimagining where the lead characters aren't scientists, where sliding's creation and creator are an unknown mystery, where the focus is almost immediately on strangers dealing with sliding and dealing with an unfamiliar world as a group. The original Pilot is, by modern standards, slow.
PARALLELS moves fast while keeping a strong sense of characterization and gave you a sense of what a whole season's worth of episodes will be like because the characters all experience sliding together rather than one character going first. And because sliding is a mystery on PARALLELS, there's no need to spend half the pilot explaining the time limit or how it works or how it was created; the rules are established faster.
If PARALLELS had been called SLIDERS, I would not have been irked by all the changes from SLIDERS. All the changes serve to get the audience and characters into sliding quickly and establish what it's like for these characters to explore strange new worlds. The changes aren't just differences; they are purposeful and they are effective. Removing the scientific character from SLIDERS but plunging the characters into sliding makes the story focus on the experience rather than the details.
I sure hope this Pilot isn't just a pilot.
Also, check out THE LOST ROOM, a mini-series by the same writer/director. Great stuff -- and with a strong ending, unlike PARALLELS.
4,660 2015-06-21 18:04:26
Re: SlidersCast: Rewatching the show one podcast at a time (51 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
PARALLELS is great! I would have been okay with PARALLELS being called SLIDERS (2015). :-)
An E-mail I sent to Sliderscast:
Hi, guys!
The PTTS podcast was great! You guys seized up something I had never, ever, ever noticed -- the sliders are desperate not to miss the slide window -- but why? If they miss the slide window, they can just use Azure-Quinn's equipment to build another sliding device to do more random sliding! They'd have lost nothing! I never noticed this at all.
Funnily enough, a Season 4 episode, "Virtual Slide," does not make this mistake.
And great podcast on "In Dinos Veritas"! Although Arturo's use of the quote, "In vino veritas" was in "Time and Again World." Understandable if you blocked it out of your memories. I really enjoyed the interplay between the three of you and I loved how you seized on how this sweeps-selected, CG-heavy story was actually conceived as a budget-saving bottle episode!
I enjoyed hearing you guys discuss John Rhys-Davies' subtle choices in playing a man who might be crippled or die and I thought your ruminations about the paleontologist's interests likely shifting from dinosaurs to cosmology after seeing a sliding vortex. And I thought you guys also did a fine job of exploring how neither the Hunter nor the Ranger are presented as definitively good or evil. Ian has a great voice and I hope it's not his last appearance on your show.
I am going to send you guys a bit of a eulogy for Season 2 when you get to the end, but it's also going to be a bit of a eulogy for Quinn. I understand you guys remarking that Quinn is the worst character -- that's not how I see him!
I think that Quinn Mallory is one of the greatest fictional heroes of the twentieth century and I felt like "In Dinos Veritas," already a great episode, receives another surge of energy when Quinn reappears in the episode. There's an assurance and competence to Quinn when Quinn is examining all the exits in the cave and coming up with a plan to evade the dinosaur and Jerry really sells that this character is a genius.
I laughed uncontrollably at Dan's reaction to Ian describing the worm episode.
4,661 2015-06-21 16:21:18
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4,662 2015-06-21 16:02:35
Topic: Falling in love... with fictional characters by tom2point0 (1 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
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tom2point02014-07-10 01:16:03
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Well, since we are ok to rehash stuff, let's start with this. It was a topic I remember just briefly reading a little on the old forum: Falling in love with fictional characters.
In this case, I'll start with Wade, being this is a Sliders board, but of course there are other answers that you could post as well.
Now obviously, if I were to run into Sabrina Llyod and she wasn't married and was actually available and actually interested in myself, she isn't Wade. Maybe Wade exists in some part of her of course, but she is Sabrina, not Wade. I however might fall in love with who Sabrina is, and indeed, I read her blog often and quite enjoy her perspective on things; her personality comes through in her writing quite a bit.
Alas, that fantasy isn't happening anytime soon, but meeting a Wade-like person? That could happen! I'd even venture to say I am more attracted to the character rather than the actress. The type of person Wade was written to be, inside and out, not just personality, not just looks, but a combo of both, is what attracts me. Someone with a bit of an adventurous spirit, a touch of the geek side, attractive in my eyes, and boldness tempered with a touch if shyness... Not asking for much, right?
So, what is your story? Which fictional character are you in love with and why, or maybe you haven't fallen in love with any?
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Is this because I used Sabrina Lloyd photos to test the image tags?
Well, I was a little boy when watching SLIDERS, and naturally, I fell in love with Wade from "Last Days" onward. I think it was her courage in the face of death that moved me -- her declaration that she had no regrets about sliding, that she felt deeply connected to all her doubles in the multiverse, that even if she died on this Earth, her alternates would still be out there. There was also her civics class in "Prince of Wails," her self-satisfied smugness in "The Weaker Sex," her romantic daring in "Luck of the Draw" and then we go to Season 2.
A common complaint in fandom is that this Wade disappeared in Season 2, replaced by a perpetually screeching, shouting, antagonistic, unpleasant character. I can sort of see that, but I always found Wade a little nebulous and vague on paper and a lot of the appeal of the character is in Sabrina Lloyd's screen presence and intense likability. I think that, while the material might be more acidic in Season 2, Sabrina Lloyd's work keeps the character someone I cheer for. I think her performance in "Young and Relentless" is brilliant and "Obsession" is a real showcase for her gifts. "Love Gods" shows Wade at her most uncompromising and valiant, and she shows Wade's resilience and good heart in both "In Dinos Veritas" and "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome."
I've always had a soft spot for Chloe Sullivan and Veronica Mars, who are almost the same characters; spunky, smart-mouthed, adventurous, brilliant problem-solvers who react to crisis and danger with panicked methodicism. That said, there's no getting around the fact that Chloe and Veronica could only exist in the exaggerated reality of a TV show and are the product of endless rehearsals, stunt doubles, special effects and a variety of technical trickery -- Allison Mack isn't actually that great with computers and Kristen Bell isn't actually a detective. And that's probably true of any character in fiction -- I haven't quite worked out how Wade *couldn't* exist in our world, but all TV characters are really simplified, screen-friendly representations of a more complicated and contradictory real-life psychology.
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Oh yeah Chloe! I always liked her more than Lana, even more than Lois when they introduced her (which, surprise surprise they had her stripping in an episode or two if I remember correctly. Shades of Maggie's episodes in season 3 suddenly come to mind. Gotta have the sex appeal I suppose). Anyway, I'm going to be rewatching Smallville this next year. I stopped watching around season 5 I think so there's a lot of new stuff I haven't seen. Watching Arrow prompted me to go back to see Smallville again, as well as the upcoming Flash series.
Those episodes you name are definite high points for Wade. Young and Relentless is a big fave of my own, as well as Dino. She did change some as you noted, but yeah, Sabrina did play a big part in cementing my "love" for Wade.
And yes, this post IS the result of your test images! That first one you posted I had never seen before. Mucho love for that!
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I loved Quinn much in the way a boy would love an older brother who was also a mentor and role model. In Seasons 1 - 2, Quinn represented everything I thought a human being should be. The thing I liked about Quinn was that he was a thinker who spent a lot of time living inside his head, but he was also highly capable of engaging with the real world. His ability to inspire the rebellion in "Prince of Wails" is delightful. Then there's the tenderness he shows a dying woman in "Fever" and his desperate, agonized self awareness in "Last Days" where he exclaims, "We wouldn't even be in this mess if I knew what I was doing." It's a bit more complicated than that, of course, in that Quinn is fundamentally damaged and broken but also incredibly high-functioning.
In episode after episode, Quinn comes up with clever solutions to problems. In the Pilot, he advises using the Professor to impersonate his double. In "Prince of Wails," he convinces the rebels he's on their side by presenting the Professor as his hostage. Quinn's intelligence is presented as his defining characteristic as he encounters problem after problem and overcomes them with persistence, ingenuity and ideas.
I really like how in "Luck of the Draw," Quinn is plainly the only sane man in town. While all the other sliders are living it up and enjoying luxuries, Quinn is suspicious, investigative, determined to find the truth with the declaration: "You don't get something for nothing!" He's infuriated that Wade, Rembrandt and the Professor don't want to get to the bottom of the horrible reality behind this world. He shows a commitment to truth. There's also a delightful moment where the sliders are enjoying a parade of models wearing dresses; Rembrandt and Arturo are rapt with attention, Quinn is bored and walks out in irritation, preferring to go to the library. Quinn is young and awkward and immature and a goofball but he has his eye on the big picture and he has no patience for the surface.
In "Love Gods," it becomes very clear that Quinn's heroism goes beyond smart solutions -- when he's offered string-free sex to produce a child, Quinn is horrified that he could reproduce and yet never see or care for his offspring. In "Gillian of the Spirits," Quinn desperately needs Gillian's help, but every scene with her shows that Quinn is deeply and genuinely concerned with her well-being. In "As Time Goes By," Quinn sets aside his romantic pursuit of Daelin time and time again to offer her the chance to slide with her fiancee or to reunite with his double.
A lot of this characterization is accidental. On paper, Quinn was scripted as an awkward geek -- a less extreme version of Steve Urkel. But Jerry played Quinn with every ounce of charisma Jerry had in him, resulting in a bizarre combination where this isolated basement dweller is a charming, athletic, attractive, endearing and highly personable youth. The result is a character who hasn't ended up alone but has instead *chosen* to isolate himself in his own mind due to some traumatic and crippling incident in his past. Note that in the Pilot, Quinn lost his father in his teens, but in "The Guardian," Torme revises that to Quinn losing his dad as a little boy -- and I think he did that because he needed to explain the contradiction between actor and character and accept it as a fascinating complexity. You'll notice that's also where it's established that Quinn skipped several grades, was smaller than his peers, and that's why he's withdrawn and awkward at times.
Anyway. I still love Quinn -- I've never had sexual fantasies about him, but he certainly had great hair.
4,663 2015-06-21 16:02:08
Topic: Fan Fiction: Better than the real thing (4 replies, posted in Sliders Bboard)
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Fanfiction / Ebooks ??Any fans made some ebooks or good fanfiction ?
I've seen some online but i've only been able to find a few and there really short..Thanks in advance !
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Re: Fanfiction / Ebooks ??You can find some great stuff at the SLFIC Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/200810170815 … rames.html
In my view, the best stories are mostly the ones with the original cast. I think the "Slide Effects" script (http://freepdfhosting.com/2c25b2564d.pdf) does a nice job of resurrecting the original sliders after "The Seer" and resetting the show to just after Season 2. With that established, I like to imagine my favourite fanfics all taking place *after* Season 5. My favourite fanfics include almost everything by Nigel Mitchell:
All For One
http://freepdfhosting.com/c2567b8241.pdf
Weightless
http://web.archive.org/web/200710140743 … tless.html
Bloodline
http://freepdfhosting.com/464c4d00fa.pdf
Double Trouble
http://web.archive.org/web/200808280600 … ouble.html
Summer's End
http://web.archive.org/web/200710140745 … ummer.html
Keep On Trekkin'
http://web.archive.org/web/200808280601 … ekkin.html
Underground
http://web.archive.org/web/200810110948 … rgrnd.html
No Smoking
http://web.archive.org/web/200810110946 … oking.html
Chase (with Jules Reynolds)
http://web.archive.org/web/200811212316 … chase.html
High Society (with Jules Reynolds)
http://web.archive.org/web/200810110948 … ciety.html
Your Ad Here
http://web.archive.org/web/200811212230 … ur_ad.htmlFollowed by some selections from Diana Jones:
For The Child's Sake
http://web.archive.org/web/200710241156 … dsake.html
A Second Chance
http://web.archive.org/web/200710241608 … chanc.html
Wade's Idea
http://web.archive.org/web/200710241554 … eidea.html
The Cry of the Birds
http://web.archive.org/web/200710241556 … birds.htmlOne story by Maureen Johnson:
To Dream of the Promised Land
http://web.archive.org/web/200710240240 … mised.htmlAnd then some stories by Jules Reynolds:
Depthcharge
http://web.archive.org/web/200710140750 … hchrg.html
Consequences
http://web.archive.org/web/200710140749 … onseq.html
The Gift
http://web.archive.org/web/200710140751 … /gift.html
Chill
http://web.archive.org/web/200710140752 … chill.htmlA final two stories by Nigel Mitchell:
Slide Rulers
http://web.archive.org/web/200710140744 … ulers.html
Sliders/X-Files
http://freepdfhosting.com/2e80122e71.pdfI think the crossover with the X-FILES makes for a great season finale and that all of the above form a very nice alternate Season 3 or Season 6. I like to imagine that right after "The Seer," the show reset itself and carried on with the original journey for Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo. And while I think it could go on forever, there comes a point when a conclusion is longed for.
It's at this point that we move into an alternate Season 4/Season 7. Imagine that this new season begins with "Double Cross" (Logan St. Clair is introduced) and "The Guardian" (it's revealed that Arturo is dying). Regrettably, we also have to include "The Last of Eden" (it has Rembrandt finding out that Arturo is sick). It's at this point that the gang start dressing like the Season 3 sliders (Wade's red hair, Quinn's shorter style, Arturo more casual, Rembrandt about the same).
From here, we have some selections from Earth 8950, all terrific stories by Mike Truman, set post-Season 3 but ignoring Arturo's death:
From Earth Prime With Love, by Mike Truman
http://www.slidersweb.net/otherworlds/8950/401.htm
Nobody Move
http://www.slidersweb.net/otherworlds/8950/403.htm
The Thriller is Gone
http://www.slidersweb.net/otherworlds/8950/405.htm
The Missiles of November
http://www.slidersweb.net/otherworlds/8950/407.htm
Checkers
http://www.slidersweb.net/otherworlds/8950/409.htmAfter that, we come into the homestretch -- a final eight-episode run of stories by Mike Truman where he brings the SLIDERS saga to a grand climax and a fitting conclusion. Truman's E317 series is meant to replace the final eight episodes of Season 3 (so nothing from "The Exodus onward happened in this continuity) and I think it serves our purposes well here.
http://slidersweb.net/otherworlds/317/
Truman's love for SLIDERS' concept comes through beautifully as well as the impressive body of knowledge and depth of character he brings to the series. He presents a magnificent series finale for SLIDERS and I wouldn't have wanted the show to end any other way.
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Re: Fanfiction / Ebooks ??This is amazing big_smile
Thanks for taking the time to post these !
Thanks alot..
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Re: Fanfiction / Ebooks ??I've shared my view that all original cast SLIDERS fanfic takes place after "The Seer" with two college pals and John and Polly decided to stop talking to me until I found a new TV show to obsess over. But I hope you like these stories as much as I do. :-) I will probably revisit my post every now and then as I find more fanfics that could conceivably take place between Nigel Mitchell's stories and Mike Truman's 12 episode finale.
You don't *have* to read them in the order in which I've presented them and you don't have to read them all, either. I see all these fanfics taking place in sequence as part of my own personal SLIDERS series, but please feel free not to join me in my world.
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Re: Fanfiction / Ebooks ??Thanks for posting all that, I certainly will be able to get use out of it when I have time to dig in.
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