Surf Dance Chris wrote:

As many of you know, I actually watch Sliders very regularly, an episode every week or so. I kinda bounce around on the episodes though... But recently (basically 2015) I've been watching a lot of original cast episodes, keeping up with SlidersCast and started with the Sliders Rewatch. I always defend seasons 3.5 to the end, because even though the original cast is not in tact, there are some good episodes, great ideas, and a lot of great scenes, even with the "new" sliding teams. Just the other day, however, I watched Way Out West (which I claim as my second favorite episode of the series), and going from watching most of season 1-3.5 episodes to that was almost a shock. It was still enjoyable, but something was missing.

I've probably hammered this sentiment into the ground. But the inescapable truth is that when you follow a TV show regularly, you are letting specific people and faces into your home. If those faces suddenly change, it's akin to a home invasion. I didn't invite Maggie over for dinner; I invited the Professor. Who does she think she is?

There's also the fact that in Seasons 1 - 2, all the characters were from 'our' world. Therefore, they could compare our history with alternate histories and react accordingly. But with Season 4, Quinn and Rembrandt are from an Earth that was invaded by Kromaggs; Colin's from a pre-industrial Earth, Maggie's from the Pulsar world where nuclear weapons were detonated on American soil -- there's no sense of contrasting our world with this week's world. None of these characters are from our world, which makes it impossible to create the homesickness and alienation that were so prominent in Seasons 1 - 2. The show became absolutely pointless.

That's probably why I'm not overly in favour of a sequel series where sliding has existed since 1995. I'd rather see Quinn discover it today. And see him played by Gregory Smith.

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So, some moody lighting and grimly intoned statements are all it takes to win you over, huh? :-)

From a fan standpoint, the original cast are SLIDERS' greatest asset. You just put the four of them in a room together and let them bounce around for 95 pages. But from a general audience point of view, the cast is probably the biggest liability. I think any new SLIDERS with Jerry would be obligated to act as a sequel, and I can't see that working out well. I think it'd be best to start new.

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In 1997, Quinn was 23 - 24 (as he was born in 1973). Kari Wuhrer, born in 1967, would have been 30 - 31. Within the context of the show, Jerry and Maggie were being treated like they were pretty much the same age. Which is ridiculous.

Quinn was a grad student (having skipped several grades) while Maggie had been a spy, a fighter pilot and had an extensive career in espionage. So, I would have put Maggie in her late thirties or early forties and let Kari play an older character. I think she should have seen herself as the practical, experienced woman of action who considers Quinn to be a reckless child in need of care. And I like to think of Wade learning from Maggie and maybe crushing on her. (Would Sabrina Lloyd have been able to play that?)

Rembrandt, I think, would find Maggie somewhat disturbing and terrifying in her ruthlessness while Maggie would consider Rembrandt to be her favourite because he's very pleasant and goodhearted.

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Not enough discussion here. Rankings are dull.

I'd say the original quartet was best, obviously. But why? Quinn and Wade were terrific youthful counterparts to Rembrandt and Arturo as the older generation. You had daring youths contrasting with the more conservative characters.

Also, the characters were devised in a way that any pairing of the quartet would produce an interesting combination. Pair up Wade and Rembrandt: you have Wade's curiosity and wonder and Rembrandt's astonishment and life experience. Put Arturo and Rembrandt together and you have the academic and the artist. Pair up Quinn and Arturo and you have a son and father exploring the world through science. And so on.

With Maggie replacing Arturo -- it didn't work, but that was mostly because all the characters were being very badly written. But looking at what it could have been -- Maggie could have been a terrific addition.

The key, I think, would have been to write Maggie as being about Rembrandt's age -- a woman in her mid to late forties and with all the cynicism, practicality and life experience of a master spy. I think a more realistically written Maggie would have regarded Quinn as a youth in need of a mother / older sister, to see Rembrandt as a loving but ineffective father, and to see Wade as her protege in adventuring.

The Season 4 team was an odd misfire with Cleavant's character having lost all comedy and Jerry and Charlie no longer acting.

Season 5 had a lot of potential. In many episodes, Rob, Kari, Cleavant and Tembi seem to have amazing chemistry. I don't quite know how the characters could have worked out, as they were scripted as bland non-entities for the most part. But there was definitely a lot of raw material and great talent there.

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I miss Brand_S. And WrongArturo. And rafproductions. I've done my part in bringing the Bboard back! You people bring them back!

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Hmm. I wonder if BvsS might open with a reprise of the attack on Metropolis -- but from Batman's point of view.

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Wow. Can he be my brother too?

What do you do with a smartwatch, anyway?

On my gadget front -- I found my T100TA netbook/tablet/convertible a little slow when I first bought it. I thought it'd be fine for data entry and typing, especially with its 10 hours of battery life. But Chrome kept crashing when I was typing E-mails and I had to switch to browsers that wouldn't crash but would be laggy and slow and I grew to despise this thing. However, after a few recent updates, Chrome is crash-free and suddenly this computer feels like the perfect little laptop. It's weird how one app running well vastly elevated my opinion of this machine. It's still hopeless as a tablet, however. The Windows tablet app store is terrible.

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Register and Login appear in the coloured bar -- the third line of text from the top of the page.

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Hmm, that's neat. Untold stories! I've always wondered how Marty met Doc.

CHUD.com has a pretty great retrospective on every installment on BACK TO THE FUTURE. Hopefully, the comic will be a worthy addition. The retrospective did a nice job of pointing something out: BTTF isn't really built as a series and the sequels had to tie themselves in knots to wring more story out of the concept. The comics, doing untold stories, seem to be cautiously steering around those difficulties.

http://www.chud.com/119028/franchise-me … he-future/
http://www.chud.com/121291/franchise-me … future-ii/
http://www.chud.com/122429/franchise-me … uture-iii/
http://www.chud.com/123059/franchise-me … tv-series/
http://www.chud.com/124087/franchise-me … -the-game/

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What's the contradiction?

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As for Netflix, I'm not sure. There was a recent app update and then the sign language captioning started working again. Windows tablets are still not ready for primetime.

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My replacement (Android) tablet arrived at the shop today. I went in for the exchange and they refiled the exchange as a refund followed by a new purchase -- which means the extended warranty was repurchased as well. I'm happy about that.

The screen lift is indeed a common problem with the simple solution of getting an exchange. ;-) One interpid tablet owner levered open the tablet and jammed in bluetack to hold the screen back in place.

To be honest, I actually found PARALLELS a little more plausible than SLIDERS in some ways -- or rather, it presented the implausibilities more effectively than SLIDERS' pilot. The nature of the building is a mystery; as a result, I didn't find its creation or existence or discovery unlikely because there is no information for me to consider plausible or implausible. In a fairly realistic world where punches hurts and families fall apart, the building is a peculiar mystery box of delightful impossibility.

It's just one abandoned building on one Earth as far as the inhabitants are concerned.

The Pilot, in contrast, explains *everything* about sliding and piles upon endless unlikely plot points. The idea that Quinn was trying to build anti-gravity and created something else is plausible, but then you have a ridiculous coincidence: a double just happened to visit Quinn's Earth at the very same time Quinn slid out and was absent, a double uniquely suited to explain the sliding concept to Quinn. In an infinity of Earths, how likely is it that a Quinn-double would just happen to stumble across an Earth in such a plot-convenient fashion?

PARALLELS, quite smartly, cloaks its absurdities in mystery to avoid having to justify them at all or failing to.

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I'm afraid I can't accept this. Temporal Flux doesn't make mistakes when it comes to SLIDERS. Therefore, tom2point0's memory is faulty and TF did indeed meet him. This is merely one of those peculiar discrepancies. Like Rembrandt suddenly having served in the Navy! Which I'm sure can be resolved in some spin-off material. Like one of the online slides on the old Sci-Fi site later revealing that Rembrandt was a *cook* on a Navy ship. Get to it, everyone! Let's fine some way to reconcile the continuity here.

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It was so weird. It is weirdly common in many blockbusters -- GI JOE RETALIATION had London, England destroyed entirely and nobody even mentioned it afterwards.

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You're a hard man to reach!

Well. Maybe you're right.

I rewatched PARALLELS just now and I realized that RussianCabbie's idea of a next-gen approach is creatively full of potential. Imagine:

Two new characters, Ronan and Beatrix, are searching for their missing father. Their last names are not mentioned. The father's face is not shown in any photos or security cam footage. They stumble into a building, the address of which they found in "Dad"'s things. They find the building that is a rift between parallel universes.

They have two crazy adventures and flee back into the building. A villain follows them. Threatens to blow up the building unless the creator comes out to face him. The elevator dings. The doors open to reveal Ronan and Beatrix's father -- Quinn Mallory. That's PARALLELS (minus the Quinn reveal), but I guess the next-gen route isn't a dead end. However, at that point, one still has to wonder why sequelize SLIDERS instead of making an original work, and I'm not seeing the advantages.

And the rebootquel approach could be neat: Quinn is in his mid-forties. He failed to create anti-gravity in his 20s. Blacked out the house. Gave up on science and went to work as an accountant. Twenty years later, Quinn is a miserable loner nursing a crush on one of his clients (Wade) and plays chess his other one (Arturo). After Quinn's mother dies, he goes back to the old house. Wade and Arturo go to help him pack. Quinn starts rooting through the basement. Accidentally triggers the vortex. It accidentally sucks in Rembrandt, who is driving by for Reasons. And the adventure begins again?

But a reboot is probably best.

I guess, for me, I don't see SLIDERS as a show that's remembered. I don't think anyone really remembers Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo. I don't even recommend SLIDERS to people when I talk about it ("Jesus, this show again?") and advise that they watch FRINGE and COMMUNITY instead.

I think trying to appeal to the fans through a next generation approach is only deepening existing wounds. Fans had to watch their characters replaced by strangers. Now they get to do it again in a long-delayed Season 6? And I think characters who aren't Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo are essentially a spin-off best made with a non-SLIDERS name. What's the point of a sequel that doesn't contain the original characters?

I think a reboot works if the creators really embrace the original quartet of characters. You have the adventurous geekboy, the winsome dreamer, the over-the-hill showbiz icon and the wise Professor with a dark side. These four characters are ideally suited to each other and exploring parallel Earths, and it's simply a matter of finding new actors to reinterpret those roles.

Alternatively, you could have something like PARALLELS. Personally, I would have been fine with the boxer being named Quinn, the awkward lawyer being named Remy, the adventurous sister being named Wade and the mysterious girl being named Maxine.

In terms of reaching out to the fans -- I think the only real way to do that would be to really commit to doing A) a sequel set today and after "The Seer" that B) resurrects the original cast and C) is completely incomprehensible to the general audience. Like those X-FILES comics that kindly resurrected the Lone Gunmen and put Mulder and Scully back to work at the FBI. Those were aimed at the fans. But a half-hearted next-gen overture to the fans is really no overture at all.

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I find it really hard to read tom2point0's posts now without imagining his podcast voice reading every line.

I didn't mind Season 3? I enjoyed the individual episodes and I didn't find the flaws as grating as some. But it added up to a rather limp and awkward season-long arc overall. Nice ending, though.

If Sabrina isn't part of the reunion, what exactly is being reunited? What's the point of doing it at all?

I also can't say I'm too keen on a NEXT GENERATION approach considering the first generation was a complete and utter disaster in the end. I still remember the delight and joy of knowing that Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo were the first to discover sliding and we were along for the ride on this very first outing into the multiverse. Why deprive a new generation of viewers of feeling like they too, are discovering sliding with Quinn Mallory? Why would we instead tell them that sliding has been done before in some other series they would have to grudgingly endure in order to appreciate the current series?

It'd be cool, though, if Jerry played Michael Mallory to the new Quinn Mallory. (Jerry's a bit young, but Michael Mallory's also a bit dead.)

No network will ever commission a TV show that only makes sense to people who've watched Seasons 1 - 5. It's too insular. It's called *broad*casting for a reason.

Jerry playing a Quinn who is in his mid-forties when he first discovers sliding in a 2015 version of the Pilot with the original cast? That might function. But there is no way SLIDERS could possibly return as the long-delayed 19th episode of Season 5.

The more I think about it, the more I think the original cast is a liability to a revival. A reboot lets you start flesh and get it right the this time. A revival is constantly about tidying up the past.

I don't think it can be avoided that some of the cast are permanently Greendaled. Jeff, Britta, the Dean and Chang are probably lifers and that's fine. They're adults, they bounced around out in the world and Greendale is where they ended up. So maybe Annie is spending a year teaching a forensics class at Greendale as a working sabbatical and Troy came to campus to spend two days installing a new fire sprinkler system and never got around to leaving and Abed is on campus shooting a college romantic comedy and decides to make our new character the leading role and use that as an entry point to Greendale's craziness.

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You know, it'd be interesting to one day have a Rewatch Podcast episode edited by Jim of Sliderscast and to have a Sliderscast episode edited by Cory.

I did notice Quinn reacting with laughter to Rembrandt's jokes?

Interestingly, Jerry and Quinn were completely opposed; Jerry thought the women-only world was awesome, which goes to show how very, very talented Jerry can be.

So, shall we use this thread for that old favourite of our topics? How would we revive SLIDERS? The reboot option with a new cast is the most general audience friendly. Gregory Smith as Quinn. Allison Mack as Wade. Colin Salmon as Rembrandt. Victor Garber as Arturo. But with the original cast... ?

I think a direct sequel is out. I've experimented a bit with a quick prequel to reveal that Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo were reunited immediately after "The Seer" -- and that ultimately dooms you to addressing the S3 - S5 plots even obliquely. Also, the general audience isn't going to have any memory of all the stories being undone.

With STAR TREK and TERMINATOR, there's a new trend of rebootquels. Revisiting the original events but with the idea that events have been altered through time travel, allowing the original story to be retold with a different plot and a new outcome. So, what would SLIDERS' rebootquel be?

The thing I found neat about TREK and TERMINATOR: time travel is used to indicate that these aren't alternate versions of the original characters. It's the original characters leading alternate lives.

Would there be a way to put the original sliders in an alternate version of the Pilot in 2015? While making it clear that these are the 1995 sliders for whom reality has been rewritten?

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Hey, I need advice! My Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4, arguably the finest mini tablet ever made -- has developed a weird split between the frame and the screen. The screen is coming loose. Thankfully, I bought the extended warranty ($60 USD) and the shop says they'll let me trade in my broken tablet for a new one. However, I'll need to buy another $60 extended warranty if the new one develops a fault and I want a subsequent replacement. Would you guys take that deal or would you just take the replacement tablet and hope for the best?

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I had a weird Netflix experience. I was watching SWITCHED AT BIRTH, which has lengthy segments in sign language. I was watching it on my Windows 7 HTPC, but when moving to my Windows 8 laptop, I switched into the Netflix Windows 8 app. And all the subtitles were gone! I had no ability to understand the sign language conversations.

But when I used the browser, the subtitle graphics were back on the very same scenes in which they were absent in the app!

Peculiar.

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My God, Tom and Cory are great on this show! Faith in life restored! Whew, that was close.

They start talking SLIDERS at the 42 minute mark. Basically saying that there's no hope for SLIDERS returning.

Sad now. My life is ruined.

I did not understand anything you just wrote, so I think it must be absolutely brilliant.

I admit, having a new female character serve as an entry point to an existing property is something of a crutch for me.

But. I think COMMUNITY, after six seasons, is designed to take place on the  Greendale campus and that's probably where the movie should be set.

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Sounds like it's going well!

I went back and rewrote "Reprise" to match the filmed version of "The Seer," mostly, aside from dropping a few lines of dialogue. And then replaced the file. Ah, obsessiveness.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I'm just not sure if it'd work as a movie.  Even the 3-part paintball episode run together would only be a 66-70 minute movie (at most).  Even a 90-minute movie (which is pretty short these days, even for comedies) would be a 4 or 5 part episode.  Is that too much time?  Would it be enough Community-style comedy, or would it also have to have ridiculous action/romantic subplots just to fill time?

I would probably introduce a new character. Probably a 19-year-old girl played by Anna Kendrick or Saoirse Ronan who has experienced some unspecified nervous breakdown that caused her to lose out on real college and have to settle for loser college, and set it up as being just like all those mediocre romantic comedies about college students -- except that in this case, the college turns out to be Greendale and Greendale is completely ****ing insane.

Jeff is the Dean. Craig is teaching gender studies. Britta is the school counselor. Annie washed out of the FBI and is now running school security. Shirley runs the cafeteria. Troy returned but lost all of Pierce's money investing in something stupid and is now a janitor and Abed has rebooted himself into a first-year community college student in the belief that he can start again. And our new character finds herself involved in the usual Greendale craziness.

On Jerry -- I think he was hungover on set in Season 4. I think it was the tail-end of a downward spiral. In Vancouver, Jerry lived like a normal guy. He went to work, went to the gym, went home, lived a quiet and low-key life. His attitude to acting was always been to play himself regardless of the role. He could get away with that because he had all the technical skills (memorization, hitting his marks, meeting his cues, blocking his scenes) and because he has a natural onscreen charisma. Match that with excellent scripting from S1/S2 writers and his reverence for John Rhys-Davies and John coaching him and Quinn came off as a multifaceted character.

Then Jerry moved to LA. It became all about the night life with making the show as something to do between binge drinking sessions, an attitude shared by the producers. Jerry continued to play himself and now Quinn was a smug, flirtatious, arrogant, brash screen presence and Jerry was only occasionally in character. And by Season 4, Jerry wouldn't even play that most of the time. He is clearly hungover in "Common Ground" and "My Brother's Keeper" and I think Charlie O'Connell, later revealed to be an alcoholic, was enabling him. The scripts in Season 4 were also terrible for Quinn: only in "World Killer" and "The Alternateville Horror" is Quinn scripted as an adventurous moral crusader who is delighted by big ideas; the rest portrayed Quinn as a bland action hero.

Season 5 -- I think that because the producers weren't expecting much, they also weren't asking much. So I guess it was an easy job working on that set and people were having fun making the show even if they weren't making anything good. I mean, you look at X-FILES episodes at the time and you have really ambitious direction and scripting whereas with SLIDERS, the visuals are just people jogging around beige hallways. I don't doubt it was fun to make; it just wasn't fun to watch.

I would have liked Robert Floyd to have played Quinn from the Pilot onward.

I think Season 5 had a lot of potential. Yeah, losing Jerry was a blow. But the truth is, Jerry had mentally quit the show by Season 3 anyway. The writers found a *very* interesting way to keep Quinn on the show even without Jerry. They had a really neat character arc for Diana Davis where the plan was for her to be secretly on Geiger's side for the whole season. The Season 5 cast was the best lineup for the show since Season 1/2. Rob, Tembi, Cleavant and Kari had a really terrific sense of chemistry and all four were very strong performers. The freelance scripts were also fantastic. An interdimensional library! Mind-controlled sliding machines! A mental asylum for the imaginative! A world where caffeine is illegal! A world with the customer service experience from hell!

And then, for various reasons, it was all very badly realized onscreen. The arcs for Quinn-2 and Diana were excised. All the freelance scripts were cut down for the budget, but they were cut down so *clumsily*. And the production continued to make bad choices: cutting episodic budgets to save up for an epic finale they didn't end up filming. Renting a huge hotel set that they then had to use in every episode that drained their funds for other expenses. The production kept aiming to do what was easy. And honestly, the budget isn't an excuse: DOCTOR WHO had even less money than Season 5 and generally managed to cobble things together.

Instead of maintaining a single standing set, Season 5 should have rented studio space that could be converted to different interiors -- hotels, train stations, cafes, military bases, bunkers, hallways. Episodes should have been rewritten to exist in 2 - 3 interior locations with dialogue indicating a vast world outside the studio walls. Exterior shots would need to be filmed tightly on the actors with different backgrounds wheeled in and out. The vortex should have stayed offscreen for most of the season, or they could have made a library of really close-up shots of the vortex that could be recoloured to match other shots. The sad truth is that the Season 5 writers and producers just weren't bringing their A-game.

I love Rob, but for the fans, SLIDERS was better off cancelled. And I disagree with the fans that the cliffhanger was a slap in the face. Ending on Rembrandt leaping into the vortex was the only meaningful gift the show had left to offer: the distant hope that something better would be on the other side -- something better than what the Season 5 creators could be bothered to give us.

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Hmm. It could be a tease. I was watching "Collision," where Future Hiro first appeared -- the footage of the older Hiro in the REBORN trailer actually looks like it was lifted from that episode.

Or they refilmed it for some reason.

I don't see where it was forced. Rob has expressed his willingness to impersonate Jerry, described his skillful preparation in doing so and he was clearly capable of doing it. And they had a great angle: he wouldn't just be a copy of Jerry because the dual-identity would mean he would be his own character. Jerry never argued with himself in one body; Jerry never played a split consciousness. Season 5 had a great character arc and the perfect actor and then they lost it for some reason.

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I enjoyed the "El Sid" and "Love Gods" podcast too! I wish they were longer; I love listening to Cory and Tom during my commutes.

I don't have a lot to say about "El Sid" as an episode. Cory and Tom did a great job exploring Arturo's morality in that his 'betrayal' does point to a lot of angry feelings towards Quinn. "El Sid," to me, is a well-intentioned misfire. The main problem for me, aside from too little script, is that I don't enjoy seeing the sliders at each others' throats. I understand the show wanting to vary the interaction a bit. They don't always get on. I just found it ugly and unappealing and I prefer it when sliders arguing is played for laughs.

"Love Gods" is a fun action episode with a hilarious concept, but the breeding program makes no sense whatsoever. There is no way a world this developed could fail to develop in-vitro fertilization. The only explanation I can conceive is that the virus affected even surviving men in some way that their sperm cannot retain viability in storage for some reason. God, world-building is so hard.

I'd disagree with Cory and Tom saying that Quinn was in any way enthused about being so in demand. Jerry plays Quinn as completely disgusted and repulsed throughout the episode. This is not a guy who has any patience or enjoyment for being objectified. Quinn Mallory has a sense of the big picture. This is part of why the character is so special to me. As a kid, I was really confused by girls and hormonal impulses. Quinn's frustration throughout the episode clarified things for me; he wants to be liked for the whole of who he is in body and mind. He's not exactly prudish, but losing his father as a boy makes him hesitate to produce offspring he wouldn't be there to raise. I really felt that in this absurd episode, Quinn Mallory was revealed as everything a man should be in relating to women.

Funny how in the two episodes where Quinn probably had sex (this and "Double Cross"), the show puts in some wiggle room!

The one thing I'm really pleased about -- I'm glad we finally dealt with that ridiculous message board rumour that Rob approached the producers and asked them to delete Quinn from Mallory. It was a groundless, unsourced, and in some ways malicious remark and I'm glad I was able to ask Rob about it so he could definitively declare that to be untrue.

Hmm. I'll see if I can edit it together. In other news:

From: ireactions | To: David Gerrold
Dear Mr. Gerrold. I recently interviewed Robert Floyd ("Mallory" from SLIDERS) and asked him: what was his favourite episode of SLIDERS? It was yours. Congratulations.

The audio quality isn't terrific. I loaded up Skype on my tablet and dialed Rob's number. I plugged an audio cable into the tablet's jack and connected that to the microphone input on my voice recorder. So, it sounds like a Skype-quality call with a few moments of distortion -- fine for conversation, but I don't know how much you'd enjoy hearing it. This also records only Rob's end of the conversation. I had to record my end on the only other recording device I had -- my smartphone. And again, the audio quality is acceptable for conversation but not great for listening.

In the end, I transcribed both sides and put it together in a PDF (that's at the end of the web article), so if you want to read a mostly unedited version, it's there. I moved some of Rob's answers around a bit -- for example, he talked about why he left his acting career *before* we started talking about "The Seer," but I decided to move that to after his wishes for Season 6. There were also a couple instances where I lost the audio, but could get the gist of what he was saying -- basically that there were a lot of freelance scripts for Season 5 because of the small writing staff and it put a lot of pressure on the few staff writers.

There's also a bit at the end of the transcript where I started crying a little.

ROB FLOYD: "Are you watching GAME OF THRONES?"
ME: "Hmm. It’s not really my thing. I’m more into shows like THE FLASH."
ROB FLOYD: "Oh, yeah, yeah. I have not seen that, I'm going to marathon that too."
ME: "But I’ve heard lots of great things about GAME OF THRONES!"
ROB FLOYD: "Yeah. You know -- the effects -- I marathoned a lot of it last night and the effects are unbelievable! And I read the books too. I was thinking of the battle scenes and thinking so much was never done with the Kromaggs."
ME: "Yeah. Sci-Fi Channel budget. What can you do, right? I guess, for me -- TV is like a friend. It’s comfort. It’s there for you at your best and worst. And sometimes it has a bad day. And sometimes it loses three-quarters of the cast and gets the budget cut by a third and is dragged out for season after season for syndication while losing everything that made it special and failing to give great actors like you the material they deserve and then it gets cancelled and goes away forever. And-and-and-and -- and that’s okay. Because everything has to."
ROB FLOYD: " ...  oh. Right. Right."

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*sigh*

Two things. First, in preparation for the Rob Floyd interview, I rewatched the closing scenes of "The Seer." And I was horrified to realize -- I messed up my SLIDERS REBORN prequel. "Reprise"'s description and dialogue of "The Seer" -- I copied it out of one of the scripts. Clearly the wrong draft. It doesn't match what was actually filmed, who said which lines, the physical action -- even the final line of dialogue is wrong. Total screw up!

That's embarrassing.

Second, I'm working on the first segment of SLIDERS REBORN's Part 2. Nigel Mitchell kindly rewrote the alt-history for me. And it's going fine, but it's so dark! So grim. I'm not having fun.

It feels like work, for God's sake. It is now more obvious than ever to me that I don't really want to write SLIDERS. I want to write episodes of COMMUNITY with Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo -- and I will totally get back to that at the 1/3 mark, but this 1/3 is so grim.

Thank God tomorrow's a holiday and I can power-drive through the whole script.

Yeah. I really didn't want this to be the last season. Week after week, I was visiting my friend Laurie, exclaiming that this week was the greatest episode of COMMUNITY ever made. The introduction of Frankie Dart. The crisis room story. The Honda episode. The giant hand episode. The spy movie spoof. COMMUNITY kept hitting new heights of experimental inventiveness. I didn't want it to ever stop. I dreaded the season finale and urgently awaited news of Season 7 --

But then the finale came and it pointed out that Abed and Annie needed lives outside Greendale. That Jeff and Britta might belong there, but Shirley and Troy having left wasn't cause for sadness -- they had to move on eventually. The fact that Jeff and Britta and the Dean and Chang were still at Greendale -- the truth is that they had settled for Greendale, but anyone who didn't have to shouldn't.

And with Jeff and Annie, the show acknowledged that yes, there is a lot holding the characters together. And the fans want to  see them stay together. But the story demands that some of them move on, and so does reality with everyone's six year contracts expiring with this season. I didn't want this to be the last episode. But the finale made me feel like it was okay.

The final hashtag made me miss SLIDERS more than ever.

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Thank me by posting lots and lots!

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Agreed. Which makes what was in the trailer so intriguing -- because somebody actually grew up, if that visual is anything to go on.

Unless it's a fake out?

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The new format is superb!

When I go here:
http://ianmcduffie.bigcartel.com/produc … -anthology

I get this message:

We’re closed at the moment
Things should be resolved shortly, please check back soon.

http://www.violetmice.com/

I have *never* been able to get Ian's online store to work. Damn it, Ian! Go to Ian's website and E-mail him. Offer to send him the money via PayPal and he'll send you the book, as he did for me (if he has any copies left).

I've never read the comic, but I felt I owed it to Ian to support this enterprise. "Paradise Lost" -- I've blocked it out of my memory.

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Reddit's cool. But at the end of the day, it's just a message board and on Sliders.tv, you can feel free to go off-topic and personal!

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After months of using Other Web Browsers on my mini-laptop, Google Chrome is finally working! Well, the portable version of Chrome is working without crashing every two minutes. I've tried Maxthon, Internet Explorer, Opera and all of them had weird performance issues, which serves me right for buying a computer with 2GB of RAM and an Intel Atom processor that wasn't yet compatible with Chrome. Man. What a mistake the Asus T100TA has been.

I thought that, since I have my super-powerful HTPC in the living room serving as my desktop, a low-powered 10-inch laptop would be good enough for when I want to type in the bedroom or work at the coffee shop. But it hasn't been good enough at all; I have to do a lot of web data entry on this thing and either Chrome would crash or the other browsers would freeze up halfway in. For God's sake. My next laptop is i3-Intel with 4GB of RAM minimum.

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My doctor has advised that I reduce my caffeine intake, so I've switched to decaf for the placebo effect. For years, coffee was either Tim Horton's or 8 O'Clock beans ground before drip-brewing. And after trying a lot of what's out there, my decaf of choice is supermarket Folgers with a dash of salt and cinnamon. I have painfully pedestrian tastes, but at least it's cheap.

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I really enjoyed the most recent podcast. I'd politely disagree about the ending of "Into the Mystic." I've always found it haunting, eerie, tragic and logical. The sliders could make it home and not recognize it. There is no way they can ever get home and be sure it's home. I would be interested in better understanding why you guys disliked it; was it badly written? Was it poorly conceived? Did it reflect badly on SLIDERS? I don't think so.

I also gently disagree with the criticisms of the teaser. Having Quinn wake up would have been a bit flat; showing the eerie image of his own headstone was far more striking and compelling.

I think you guys were bang on about "Time Again and World." The episode is baffling with many scenes providing seemingly vital information that doesn't add up to anything. The plot makes no sense whatsoever with the plan to read the Constitution on pirate radio when the Internet is functional and usable. I liked Cory's humility in saying he was relieved to hear that Tom didn't understand the episode either.

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http://www.blastr.com/2015-6-25/first-t … -be-heroes

A synopsis of what HEROES REBORN will cover. I have to say, the marketing is making all the right statements. Ordinary people. Crazy situations. The focus on new characters is very wise. The idea that Noah, Angela, Matt, Mohinder, René, Micah, and Hiro will be supporting characters in the new characters' stories sounds effective and fitting. Maybe Peter, Sylar, Claire, Tracy and others are doing other things in this world and the focus is on a different set of people -- which is what Seasons 2 - 4 of HEROES should have done anyway.

SPOILER





















One of the things that drove me crazy about HEROES: glimpses of the future in Season 1 revealed that Hiro, in half a decade's time, would become a capable, skillful superhero. But Seasons 2 - 3 muddled his character so much that by Season 4, Hiro was still the clumsy incompetent he'd been in Season 1. It was something of a relief to see Hiro in this trailer as the future Hiro who appeared in Season 1, suggesting the hiatus has been good for Tim Kring to think things through properly.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHClJhC8Wfs

Trailer for HEROES REBORN. God help me, seeing a certain someone finally achieve his destiny -- I actually got excited.

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I sometimes wonder if the problem in the HEROES writers room was the lack of leadership. The constant changing and altering of people's powers. The inability to give Sylar a consistent character arc that wasn't abandoned for something else entirely. The inability to write Eve as the same character. The inexplicable declaration that the heroes and villains' powers came from the eclipse when they'd plainly established that the powers were from genetic factors unrelated to the sun. This strikes me as many different voices with contrary wishes and no one leading them towards a common goal.

Which makes me think that Tim Kring should hire someone to be the story editor and focus on the more practical aspects of production.

I hear Tracy Torme is available.

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How is your dog? I remember you telling us that the tests were (drumroll) inconclusive.

Yeah, including Laurie in SLIDERS REBORN may not have been the best strategic move. I guess, in my mind -- I love Quinn. I love Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo. They're my treasured imaginary friends. The sliders. And I love Laurie. Of course I would make her one of them. A slider. And then I screwed up and I was pretty sure I'd lost my friend. And I just couldn't write the Quinn and Laurel scenes and what they are to each other.

(It's not sexual or romantic.)

Anyway. Laurie's back. Laurel Hills will be fine. The sliders will return in July.

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Well. I'll see it before I judge.

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So, SLIDERS REBORN, my insane 20th anniversary special, features a new character. A twisted 15-year-old girl named Laurel Hills who serves as -- well, let's be blunt. She's a plot device to reunite Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo in 2015. Laurel is based on a (20-year-old) friend of mine who once told me she felt completely and totally out of sync with reality. I pissed off the real-life Laurel and she wasn't talking to me for awhile.

I tried to escape into the world(s) of SLIDERS REBORN. And couldn't. Much to my horror, I couldn't write Laurel Hills without the real-world version of her around. I had alienated my muse.

Thankfully, we patched things up and I have been able to resume my efforts. However, Part 2 of SLIDERS REBORN is going to be a bit late -- it'll come on July 30, 2015 instead of July 30 as planned. Nigel Mitchell can confirm that the entire story outline is complete -- I just got delayed in converting it into script.

So let this be a lesson to you all. Never piss off the people you write about until *after* you've scripted all their dialogue.

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Okay. So HEROES is returning. With a bunch of new characters and a bunch of old ones.

On one level, I think this could  be an effective return to Season 1's original intent: extraordinary situations, ordinary people discovering they have superpowers for the first time. A combination of characters who still have places to go or something to offer after the long hiatus (Parkman, Hiro, Noah Bennett, Angela Petrelli, Mohinder, Micah) and plenty of new characters to take center stage.

On another level... it's run by Tim Kring and after TOUCH, I've concluded that Kring is a great producer and a terrible writer. A Tim Kring show has beautiful locations, excellent directors, stunning music, star-studded casts and scripts that punch above the writer's weight. Kring has all these beautiful themes of interconnected fates and intertwined lives, but he hasn't the plotting or dialogue to make them anything other than nonsensical set-pieces. Characters behave nonsensically to further or stall the plot. Stories get written into corners and then absurd contrivances excuse Kring from consequences. Without Bryan Fuller on staff, Kring is clueless. So I can only hope that on HEROES REBORN, he's found some good talent and taken a step back.

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So, that ARROW finale... kind of boring. I didn't like the whole League of Assassins arc at all. I guess the main problem for me is, I don't understand the League's motives at all. They're a shadowy society of secrets that do malicious and evil things because... they're malicious and evil? I don't understand what they gain, what they want, what they're out for. They kill people because. They want power because. They use that power to get more power for something. I don't get it. With Slade and Merlyn, there was motive and reasoning even if it was extreme and crazy. With the League, they're just extreme and crazy.

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So, not to embarrass anyone, but the Sliders Rewatch originated as a truly ghastly podcast by Cory and Karen. It was very obvious from the first episode that Cory and Karen loved SLIDERS; it was also very obvious that they lacked the vocal presence to convey that love in a podcast. They are slow, hesitant, overly-deliberate speakers -- and you know, there's nothing wrong with that, but it made for a truly slumber-inducing podcast. I had to stop listening to it for the safety of myself and others -- which is to say I listen to podcasts when driving and Cory and Karen were making me so sleepy that I had to turn them off or risk an accident.

But now we have a reboot with Tom2Point0 and Cory. And I have to say, Tom is that peculiar X-Factor -- that missing ingredient of elusive definition who, injected into the Sliders Rewatch, suddenly amps it up from sedating to spectacular. Tom's commanding vocal presence and sly humour is ideal for podcasts and he bounces off Cory perfectly. Cory is the ideal contrast to Tom's voice; higher pitched and more thoughtful and calculated, and where with Karen, Cory was incredibly dull -- well, with Tom, Cory's voice suddenly becomes earnest and heartfelt and this partnership is just ideal.

I really enjoy the format of two episodes per podcast. I love listening to Dan and Jim and Ian talking for 82 minutes about "In Dinos Veritas" on SLIDERS as a more informal gab-fest between friends, but there's something very crisp, professional and compact about Sliders Rewatch. Neither is better; they're just different products with different aims and the contrast is flattering to both. I particularly like how Cory and Tom have a very affectionately admiring take on SLIDERS, such as noting how Quinn in the Pilot inexplicably points the timer at the sky when seeking to escape a tornado or how Rembrandt's plan to rescue Quinn from the CDC in "Fever" consists of driving up to the building and waiting for Quinn to escape.

They're all done with Season 1 now and they've done a great job. I'm eager to hear them take on Seasons 2 - 5 and I am very pleased to see that this reboot with Sliders Rewatch has become a great success. Congratulations to Tom and Cory. Well done! Fix your website. Oh my God, the dark blue on black is unreadable. (Not that I can talk; it took me a month to fix Sliders.tv because I'd been so distracted by some personal affairs.)

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Just  a quick second  to say how thrilled I was to see the Sliders Board! God I loved doing that show and how cool all the fans of it were. I was really lucky to follow such an amazing talent like Jerry. He really was and is a brilliant actor and a terrific guy. I do hope you all get to meet him. The rest of the cast were just incredible. It really was one of the greatest times of my life.

After Sliders I worked a good bit, but I had to leave acting when I was doing Dark Angel. I was a single dad and traveling with my two young boys all the time- it was too rough a life for us. Funny, I went back to bartending and enjoy every day there. I really love trying to make people happy.

I will continue to follow the boards, I love the opinions about all the different shows!

Best,
Rob

After Rob posted on Sliders.tv last year, I sent him an E-mail. Recently, he set aside some time and we had a 100 minute phone conversation that I converted into a web article. I wanted the article to represent Rob's life before and after SLIDERS, but I think fans will naturally be most fascinated by Rob sharing the process and deliberation behind his acting in Season 5.

http://earthprime.com/interviews/robert … looks-back

My gratitude goes to Rob and also to Temporal Flux. It's thanks to TF giving SLIDERS fans a place to gather that Rob was able to reach out to the fans.

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I thought the PARALLELS pilot was an interesting vision of what could have been a new version SLIDERS. My revival effort, SLIDERS REBORN, is something for those fans who long to know that Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo are alive and well. But a more realistic SLIDERS revival would be something like PARALLELS: the alternate universe concept with a very different set of characters.

I would have been okay with PARALLELS being released with the title SLIDERS. Pretending for a moment that PARALLELS is SLIDERS: it's a neat reimagining where the lead characters aren't scientists, where sliding's creation and creator are an unknown mystery, where the focus is almost immediately on strangers dealing with sliding and dealing with an unfamiliar world as a group. The original Pilot is, by modern standards, slow.

PARALLELS moves fast while keeping a strong sense of characterization and gave you a sense of what a whole season's worth of episodes will be like because the characters all experience sliding together rather than one character going first. And because sliding is a mystery on PARALLELS, there's no need to spend half the pilot explaining the time limit or how it works or how it was created; the rules are established faster.

If PARALLELS had been called SLIDERS, I would not have been irked by all the changes from SLIDERS. All the changes serve to get the audience and characters into sliding quickly and establish what it's like for these characters to explore strange new worlds. The changes aren't just differences; they are purposeful and they are effective. Removing the scientific character from SLIDERS but plunging the characters into sliding makes the story focus on the experience rather than the details.

I sure hope this Pilot isn't just a pilot.

Also, check out THE LOST ROOM, a mini-series by the same writer/director. Great stuff -- and with a strong ending, unlike PARALLELS.

PARALLELS is great! I would have been okay with PARALLELS being called SLIDERS (2015). :-)

An E-mail I sent to Sliderscast:

Hi, guys!

The PTTS podcast was great! You guys seized up something I had never, ever, ever noticed -- the sliders are desperate not to miss the slide window -- but why? If they miss the slide window, they can just use Azure-Quinn's equipment to build another sliding device to do more random sliding! They'd have lost nothing! I never noticed this at all.

Funnily enough, a Season 4 episode, "Virtual Slide," does not make this mistake.

And great podcast on "In Dinos Veritas"! Although Arturo's use of the quote, "In vino veritas" was in "Time and Again World." Understandable if you blocked it out of your memories. I really enjoyed the interplay between the three of you and I loved how you seized on how this sweeps-selected, CG-heavy story was actually conceived as a budget-saving bottle episode!

I enjoyed hearing you guys discuss John Rhys-Davies' subtle choices in playing a man who might be crippled or die and I thought your ruminations about the paleontologist's interests likely shifting from dinosaurs to cosmology after seeing a sliding vortex. And I thought you guys also did a fine job of exploring how neither the Hunter nor the Ranger are presented as definitively good or evil. Ian has a great voice and I hope it's not his last appearance on your show.

I am going to send you guys a bit of a eulogy for Season 2 when you get to the end, but it's also going to be a bit of a eulogy for Quinn. I understand you guys remarking that Quinn is the worst character -- that's not how I see him!

I think that Quinn Mallory is one of the greatest fictional heroes of the twentieth century and I felt like "In Dinos Veritas," already a great episode, receives another surge of energy when Quinn reappears in the episode. There's an assurance and competence to Quinn when Quinn is examining all the exits in the cave and coming up with a plan to evade the dinosaur and Jerry really sells that this character is a genius.

I laughed uncontrollably at Dan's reaction to Ian describing the worm episode.