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I just (independently/ironically) just finished watching last week's The Prisoner chat with Tracy.  I was stunned at the news!  They speak about it at the 1 hour 55 minute mark.

Tracy says there's going to be a "Sliders Convention" in Long Island, NY, in summer 2022, in the "early stages."  It's (thankfully) NOT per Tracy to be run by Creation Entertainment.  Sounds like he will reveal more information later, as it didn't sound like he had it in front of him. 

PS: Tracy later recounted a funny story about a fake Tracy Torme Facebook page doing a Q&A, which he found out about it, and showed up and was kind of turned off on social media by that.  His wife is currently putting something together for him now though.

I slinked onto the TCM App and gave this a watch.  It's a good late 70's style thriller, and Bujold is very good in it.  Didn't really remind me much of any Sliders episodes although like TF said My Brother's Keeper but this one was very sinister.  Much more like The Island.

Sliders related, the creator of the People's Court, died.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/a … ge-85.html

I've seen many of the fan Trek films, and for awhile they were really cool.  However, they had too many awful amateur actors in them working with Koenig or Takei or whoever.  There were a few that were REALLY good that only featured working actors. 

Anyway, Cabby I don't think Tracy has trauma from the original run of the series.  He fought with the network quite a bit, and I think he was often kind of like stuck in a crappy job with idiots for bosses.  Like most Hollywood writer/creators he seems to jump around a lot, in fact he admitted to having given up on projects he should have fought for.  That's kind of been his M.O.  Let's hope this reboot isn't one of them, although he doesn't have much of an alternative should NBCU fully deny his project.  They own it.

I do have a long running streak of seeing Bond films in the theater.  I may go after it's been out awhile and I know the theater will be empty.  Ditto for Ghostbusters Afterlife.

Again, I have no problem with your first update on her situation.  And yes, a "What the hell is up with Zoe" thread would have been a more appropriate place for our version of the Nancy Grace Show.  The situation she's in is very concerning/scandalous, and we could probably discuss it for quite some time, but away from THE main thread on the Torme reboot as there's bound to be more news within a few weeks time.  That's why I politely asked to have the Zoe stuff split off, it's a simple admin task.

You can only have so many characters on this kind of show.  There's only so much room on the page, and on camera, not to mention the budget, for actors.  Sliding from world to world makes a large ensemble really impossible.  I'm actually surprised he's expanding to five.  Obviously, if Wade is gone, the now teen child carries that loss, which becomes a tool for writing each episode.  Sort of like Quinn was with his deceased father, again, there's a formula to follow.  Don't think Tracy is opposed to guest appearances, as he said as much.  However, it's clear some characters like Logan for instance, he obviously isn't interested in, nor the Nazi Kromaggs.

The LAST thing any showrunner should do is to take that kind of direct fan input.  Listen, if you loved what he wrote in the first 2+ seasons, then have faith he'll get it right this time.  Besides, those "mistakes" you're worried about came after he left the show, and it was controlled by a total disaster.

Frankly I don't think it's appropriate to even banter about this, and certainly not in the "Return of Sliders" thread.

How high up is this executive?   Can he/she effectively green light?  NBCU/Comcast is a tough nut to crack.  Their original programming on USA, SyFy, and now Peacock are absolutely hideous.

I agree, with a likely situation being the daughter dreams of Sliding and/or is rebellious and doesn't listen to her dad.  She accidentally sets it off or something, and they get sucked in.  Of course, it would only be fitting for Rembrandt to be sucked in as he drives up to their house, in another Caddy!

The way Tracy framed it was he expected they'd take the pitch and be like, yeah go ahead, let's do this.  Nice of him to be that optimistic, because I sure wasn't.  The "time" thing was them asking him, why is now the right time to bring it back?  Obviously he could come up with 30 good reasons, but again this is a company that has no clue what it's doing.  I take that as them saying, why should we care about some show from 25 years ago?  They are that dense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WL55qz8dmk

Here's my synopsis of the chat, which was really great by the way, MSZ and TT really took it over just by themselves.  Obviously reboot-wise sounds like Tracy envisions Quinn and Rembrandt returning with 3 new characters, including a child of Quinn and Wade.  Wade likely has perished but Arturo remains somewhere.  This group has been stuck on a world due to the window being missed and a new window is soon to open.  Very cool!  Unfortunately, NBCU didn't sound super into the timing of it, and they own all the rights.

Tracy curious about MSZ and Peckinpah.  "Wasn't the most pleasant, but they let him have sci-fi writing/re-writing."  Complemented Dial and Black.  Tracy was comforted that Marc was on the staff.  MSZ mentions that Peck bought a "clone script," my guess is My Brother's Keeper, which he said was terrible and not to buy it.  Peck did it anyway and Marc had to rewrite it.  Tracy then repeats the Easy Rider biker nonsense with Peck's girlfriend!  HA HA HA.  The host then interrupted the Peck "love session" LOL.

Tracy later name dropped (badly) Earthprime.com and the old Dimension of Continuity.  Unfortunately, since this damn YouTuber never publicizes the streams, I missed it and could not offer to correct Tracy. 

Marc describes his Twilight Zone book work, and future plans for recently found Rod Serling dictations.  Short discussion on Sliders, where Tracy said that the series, at least on FOX, was shot in 35mm though probably not the effects.  Followed by more Star Trek complaining. 

Back to Sliders, co-host asks about retconning the old show.  Will remove the Kromaggs, even mentioned looking at the Sci-Fi seasons for "rules of Sliding" but doesn't sound like he cares about revisiting what happened.  Marc describes World Killer to them.  Tracy says reboot should be in San Francisco, but would love to shoot in Vancouver again.  Also speaks on Bennish, could bring him back, not sure about Logan.  Said Arturo character in reboot won't just disappear, would be addressed. 

Marc speaks about how he changed Maggie's character to better suit Kari's abilities.  Tracy says he got along with tempormental JRD, really liked him.  Says he's really mellowed, had nice conversations with him.  Marc then talks about the limitations Charlie O'Connell had.  Interesting that Marc never knew Cleavant had a twin brother!  Tracy felt that Rembrandt's character was done improperly, should have stepped in say S4, that they lost the show biz guy and turned into an action figure.

I saw a promo for that during the IndyCar race, looked boring, probably more for women.

Have you seen Future Man (Hulu show)?  It went 3 seasons but has a lot of the kind of Sliders aspects to it.  Small group, constantly hopping timelines to fix it (get home).

https://news.yahoo.com/why-annual-covid … 24502.html

This was who I referenced on the boosters.  My allergy doctor, a long-time immunology professional, told me this guy is one of the smartest there is.

By the way, this study claims that most surgical masks and cloth coverings filter only about 10 percent of exhaled aerosols.  KN95 are 46% while the N95 is 60% effective.  This again goes to my point that most people are using masks that don't do much of anything.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/study-fin … oth-masks/

ireactions.....I'm about 99% certain I know the man who spoke of as "Francisco Herrera" LOL as he's pretty active on the Sliders FB group.  I get into it frequently with him, because he's quite the "know-it-all" and his new crusade is to complain about anything woke.  Suffice to say he doesn't have much reverence for any of us who've been in the Sliders online community for over 20 years.  Which is fine.

Moving on, guys the sad fact is you will not find one instance in the history of mankind where an occupying army completely withdraws from a war it has effectively lost, and there is no chaos.  There is always chaos, and there are always huge numbers of people left behind who fought/aided that same army.  It is unavoidable, and is not the fault of the military leadership.  The media is full of Monday morning QB's from right to left, but none of them have a reasonable alternative plan for what's happening there. 

The only alternative is to redeploy probably 100K US forces on the ground, a level we have not had in a decade or more.  Biden is trying to avoid having US Marines having a firefight with Taliban.  That is his goal here, get Americans and Western nationals out.  So that's where we are.  If he can accomplish that to a satisfactory level, great.  Doesn't seem like it right now though.  For those who will start screaming Al Qaeda will return, or they won't let girls go to school, whatever, enough already.  We cannot be at war.  The Afghans largely gave up when Trump made that deal in February 2020, it is what it is.

Not sure how "in" Sabrina might be, with young children and a husband who travels significantly.  Timing/Availability will remain suspect, kind of the same with John Rhys-Davies, who I'm not even sure which country he's in presently.

The surgical masks, even if they are fit against the face, do protect against this variant anywhere near what the N95 does.  I'm getting that right from Dr. Michael Osterholm.  There really is no way to get it to "seal" on your face.  I agree on wearing the cloth or whatever on top of it, but honestly at that point, why bother?  Just get an N95.  Regardless, his point and mine was that most people wear poor masks and also wear them incorrectly.

all vaccines WORK against delta variant, because they keep you out of the ER.  yes you can still get it and be sick despite vaccination, oh well, same as any other cold or flu virus.  however, what the experts feel is that vaccinated people are likely being infected from their family members or coworkers, who they spend a lot of time around, that are vaccinated as well.  the source on all of them though are unvaccinated spreaders.  however, vaxxed people almost certainly will not be super spreaders.  they are not causing scores of children to be infected and hospitalized in the South right now, it's the unvaccinated. 

as for masks, honestly anything but an N95 equivalent mask is not going to give you much protection.  the surgical ones, cloth ones, whatever, maybe 15-30 minutes, good enough for quick trips inside a store or whatever.  they don't help much otherwise.

https://twitter.com/trekcore/status/1424407812617211905

JOC asked about the reboot talks.  Evidently he saw the same Torme interview we all did, ha ha.

@pilight

The reliance on heavy emotions is for better or worse, simply a result of the streaming phenomenon.  It's what every show does now just about.

The Facebook group is really divorced from reality in that regard.  I keep telling them, Torme has never SEEN anything past mid-Season 3, so he's surely not going to write closure to them.  That was Bill Dial's dumb idea to end on a cliffhanger. 

Well even if Torme got some type of go ahead, as I said, you don't just sign actors and go to work the next day.  Especially with the pandemic, so many productions have been delayed, they may not get to shoot for another year or longer from now.  O'Connell could be available at that point.

Well at least he'll be free to do the Sliders reboot, lol.

That's his point, he would like to be able to satire anybody he feels works for the story, but will be shot down.  However, Tracy's comments, which were unfortunately cut off, seemed to be more along the lines of they don't even want to broach subjects now.  That I feel is a problem, forget about your take on it, we don't even want to write a story that deals with this current topic or that.

Actually they talk Sliders a bit around 42 mins in for like 7 mins.  The host Cardinal Sin was ROUGH.  Interrupting Tracy mid-thought over and over.  Tracy lamented that he gave up on various projects too quickly when rejected, and moved on, and felt he should have fought harder to get some of them off the ground. 

The main host is clearly displeased with DSC/PIC "ideology" but Tracy said he was going to write a script for Picard, which would have been a new Dixon Hill story.  He said he conceived a love story between Picard and a young black woman, but that he realized it wouldn't work.  Jonathan Frakes reminded Tracy that Patrick Stewart was now in his 80's, and a romance with a 30-year old wouldn't quite work!  Torme also says that industry people warned him to stay away from Picard, whatever that means.  I have to assume he may have been speaking of season 2 pre-production. 

Says he's still amazed by Sliders fans, and their continued support, loves hearing from them still.  Then went into Peckinpah, repeating his "too cerebral" infamous comment, that Fox made.  Says he left the show after writing his favorite episode, The Guardian, and being told by Peck, "That's exactly the kind of show we're not going to be doing anymore."  Gabbed about Marc Scott Zicree, asked them for his contact info, always liked him. 

Also has some cool Patrick McGoohan/Jonathan Harris/Bob Dylan stories.

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Talks to Cleavant all the time, can't imagine it without Jerry, and talked to JRD about it.  Imagines original cast with new ones.  Said this is being actively worked on.  Said everyone is hyper reactive on politics, and feels it's much worse now.  Threw ideas out, people told him NO you can't do that!  Struggle is not to be PC and safe.  He was literally about to mention Peacock network and his connection dropped, and of course these awful hosts didn't bother asking him again.  Almost sounded like they spoke to them but there was some reason they won't be a likely pairing, but again, who knows?

Torme's involvement on the comics doesn't really solve the puzzle though, as to how various ideas coincidentally found their way into late S3 scripts, perhaps rewritten after JRD left?

The last few seasons of Agents of SHIELD were heavy into the multiverse and time travel, it was a great series.

I never considered that, and you're speaking of the episode Genesis.  It's quite possible though.

I missed this all entirely, ha ha.  Maybe Tracy canceled on the guy, but geez, should at least let people know.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ … s-n1272938

Completely insane Bitcoin mining.