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The SLIDERS series bible is a joke. It's a farce. It's an embarrassment. It's nothing.

I think the reason why Gregory House and Sherlock and the Thirteenth Doctor are so effective: the episodes were actively transcribed by the fans, so all their dialogue is in the AI corpus. SLIDERS fans didn't do much transcription. Also, a lot of the SLIDERS scripts were hard copies scanned into PDF format and don't have machine-recognized characters in the pages. They're JPEGs, not rendered text files.

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Today I saw a sample of a new Adobe Photoshop feature that filled out a photo to make it wider.   It improvised the information on the left and right and was scary good.

Pretty certain 4:3 video content could be turned into 16:9 in the coming decades though I am not sure there will ever be enough of a commercial market for it to be developed or be available to consumers to utilize independently.

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Apparently Tracy Torme has a new radio show or podcast of some sort.  I'm not able to find it but don ecker brought it up on a recent episode of Gerry Russell's pop culture minefield YouTube show.

I got the sense it was ufo focused but not sure.

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This is quite impressing.

Check out the parent tweet ( )and the response to it, linked below (regarding legal implications) … 7923170314

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Imagine if Tracy could do season 1 style sliders, over and over again, without network pushing him out.  It may never have gotten the tv ratings to support the requirements fox needed but it would have been looked back on as one of the greatest genre (and multi-genre) series put together.  People would have appreciated it over time, and it would have had a pretty extended shelf life (e.g. 2000-2013 in syndication).

I totally understand FOX's decisions, I just feel like we were robbed of tracy's creativity on an extended run.

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Perhaps this also happened on Guardian world … the-earth/

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Earlier, RussianCabbie wondered if AI could be a tool for writers who don't have the language skills or descriptive abilities or time to write strong screenplays. I'm not sure this is really viable. If you're not a capable writer yourself, AI won't fill in the blanks for you. AI writing is clumsy, generating text simply for the sake of generating text, and when there is intent, it's simply in taking existing sentiment and paraphrasing it without any sense of a character arc behind it.

The TV show HOUSE had a core relationship: the flirtatious interplay between the cynical Dr. Gregory House and his no-nonsense boss, Dr. Lisa Cuddy (Lisa Edelstein), the Dean of Medicine at the hospital. The actress abruptly departed at the end of Season 7 because Season 8 was made on a reduced budget that led to pay cuts for all. All the actors accepted a pay cut except Lisa Edelstein who was outraged at the offer and, having completed her seven year contract, refused to renew for an eighth.

The Season 8 finale was the final episode of the show had featured House trapped in a burning building, hallucinating people in his life asking him why he wanted to die. Edelstein refused to return for the finale, and the show carefully cut around Cuddy's absence; House may have hallucinated Cuddy but we didn't see it. Cuddy may have been at House's funeral, but she wasn't on camera. I asked Sydney, a language model powered by Bing AI, to write the hallucination of Cuddy that House might have had if the actress had returned.

Sydney's version of the Cuddy hallucination:
House is lying on the floor of the burning building. He has just talked to Stacy and she told him that he could find love again. He doesn't believe her and he closes his eyes. He hears a familiar voice.

Cuddy: House? House, can you hear me?

House opens his eyes and sees Cuddy standing over him. She looks worried and concerned.

House: Cuddy? What are you doing here? Are you real?

Cuddy: No, I'm not real. I'm a hallucination. Just like the others.

House: The others? You mean Kutner, Amber, Stacy, Cameron?

Cuddy: Yes, them. And me.

House: Why are you here? What do you want from me?

Cuddy: I want you to think about your future, House. I want you to think about what you're going to do next.

House: My future? What future? I don't have a future. I'm going to die here.

Cuddy: No, you're not. You're going to live. You're going to escape this fire and fake your death and run away with Wilson.

House: How do you know that?

Cuddy: Because that's what you always do, House. You always find a way out. You always avoid the consequences. You always choose the short term over the long term.

House: What's wrong with that?

Cuddy: Everything, House. Everything is wrong with that. You never think ahead, you never plan, you never grow. You just act on impulse, on emotion, on selfishness.

House: And you don't? You never act on impulse, on emotion, on selfishness?

Cuddy: Of course I do. But not like you. Not all the time. Not at the expense of everything else.

House: Everything else? Like what?

Cuddy: Like your career, your health, your relationships.

House: My career is over, my health is ruined, my relationships are nonexistent.

Cuddy: That's not true, House. You still have a chance to change that. You still have a chance to make things better.

House: How? How can I make things better?

Cuddy: By facing your problems instead of running away from them. By dealing with your emotions instead of numbing them with drugs. By caring about other people instead of pushing them away.

House: Like you?

Cuddy: Yes, House. Like me.

House: You want me to be like you?

Cuddy: No, House. I want you to be like you. The real you. The best you.

House: The best me? What does that even mean?

Cuddy: It means the you that I know and love and hate and admire and despise and respect and fear and miss.

House: You miss me?

Cuddy: Yes, House. I miss you.

House: Why?

Cuddy: Because you were the most challenging and frustrating and exhausting person I ever worked with and loved.

House: And?

Cuddy: And because you were also the most brilliant and fascinating and inspiring person I ever worked with and loved.

House: So?

Cuddy: So... don't die here, House. Don't give up on yourself. Don't give up on life.

House: Why not?

Cuddy: Because... because people need you, House. Because people care about you.

House: Who? Who needs me? Who cares about me?

Cuddy: Wilson does. Your team does. Your patients do.

House: And you? Do you need me? Do you care about me?

Cuddy: ...

She hesitates for a moment.

Cuddy: Yes, House. I do.

She leans down and kisses him softly.

Cuddy: Goodbye, House.

She stands up and walks away.

It was functional but pedestrian. The scene doesn't really capture how all of House's visitations in this episode were hallucinations, and House having an argument with himself. The scene doesn't House's depression and suicidal impulses in the series finale where he was facing a six month jail sentence while his best friend was dying of cancer and had five months to live. The characters have dialogue, but the sentiments are very shallow and trite. The scene adds nothing to the episode in which it's supposed to be taking place.

However, it provides a framework. A structure. And a suggestion of a point. So I rewrote it:

My Version of the Cuddy Hallucination
House is lying on the ground. The hallucination of Stacy left him unmoved. Then a pair of slim, toned legs enters the frame.

Cuddy: "Well. Here we are again."

Cuddy sits down next to House. House sits up. The flames surround them.

House: "Again? Can you remind me the last time you and I were in a burning building while I was hallucinating on opiates?"

Cuddy: "Here we are again in a bad situation because you acted on your impulses instead of on your reasoning. You know, for someone who brags about being logical and rational, you don't look very far ahead. You're in pain? Pop a pill instead of looking into physical therapy. You're upset that your ex-girlfriend's your ex-girlfriend? Drive your car through her house and drive her out of your life. You're upset that your friend is dying, you flush basketball tickets down a toilet out of spite. And where do you end up? You end up here."

A flashback of House in a psychiatric hospital after his hallucinations in Season 5.

Cuddy: "Or here."

A flashback of House in jail.

Cuddy: "Or here."

House and Cuddy are sitting amidst the flames.

Cuddy: "Why don't you ever think about the future? Do you think that this -- "

Cuddy gestures at the rundown building that's burning down.

Cuddy: "Is really all that you deserve?"

House: "My 'future'. What future? I'm going back to jail."

Cuddy: "And you'll get out. What then?"

House: "Wilson's dying. My career's over after round two in jail. My future has no one. My future has nothing."

Cuddy: "That's not true."

House: "Does my future have you?"

Cuddy looks at House sadly. There is a long silence.

House: "So you being here -- you're not here as the Ghost of Christmas Future. You're the Ghost of Christmas Past. And the past isn't coming back. You've moved on. You're never coming back. If you were really here, you wouldn't spit to put out the fire. So don't be here at all."

Cuddy nods with finality as House turns away from her. As House lies down.

But then a sensible set of women's dress shoes steps into his line of sight. He looks up to see Cameron.

House: "Is this hell? An eternity of people trying to convince me to live?"

Cameron: "Who says I'm here to convince you to live?"

And then we proceed with the episode as it aired.

I asked Sydney what Cuddy might have said at House's funeral if the actress had returned. Cuddy would have been present in House's hallucination and House's funeral. Sydney proceeded to write:

Cuddy: I don't know a lot of things about House. I don't know why he did what he did. I don't know how he felt about me. I don't know if he ever forgave me.

She pauses and looks at the audience.

Cuddy: But I do know some things about House. I know that he was a brilliant doctor and a genius diagnostician. I know that he saved countless lives and solved countless mysteries. I know that he was passionate about medicine and truth and logic.

She pauses and smiles slightly.

Cuddy: I also know that he was a pain in the ass and a jerk and a bastard. I know that he caused countless problems and broke countless rules. I know that he was arrogant and selfish and reckless.

She pauses and sighs.

Cuddy: But most of all, I know that he was a human being. A flawed, complicated, contradictory human being. A human being who had feelings and fears and hopes and dreams. A human being who had friends and colleagues and lovers and enemies.

She pauses and looks at Wilson.

Cuddy: A human being who had one true friend. A friend who stood by him through thick and thin. A friend who loved him unconditionally. A friend who gave him a reason to live.

She pauses and looks at the coffin again.

Cuddy: And now he's gone. He's gone and we're left with his memory. His memory of his brilliance and his pain. His memory of his humor and his anger. His memory of his courage and his cowardice.

She pauses and wipes a tear from her eye.

Cuddy: His memory of his life and his death.

She pauses and takes a deep breath.

Cuddy: And we're left with our feelings. Our feelings of sadness and anger. Our feelings of regret and relief. Our feelings of love and hate.

She pauses and looks at the audience again.

Cuddy: And we're left with our choices. Our choices of how to remember him and how to honor him. Our choices of how to live without him and how to move on with our lives.

She pauses and smiles sadly.

Cuddy: And we're left with our hope. Our hope that he's at peace now. Our hope that he's happy now. Our hope that he's free now.

She pauses and nods slightly.

Cuddy: Goodbye, House.

It's an adequate first draft from the AI, but there's no real insight or meaning. It's just verbiage. But again, it provides structure. Structure for a human writer to infuse human emotion into it. And also to actually integrate what was supposed to be a missing scene into the existing episode. Here's my redraft where I folded the Cuddy eulogy into the actual dialogue of the episode:

Dr. Park: "House hired me when no one else would."

Dr. Adams: "He got me fired. He gave me the guts to get fired."

Dr. Masters: "He gave me the courage to quit."

Mrs. House: "Gregory was — he was a good son."

Stacy: "He was a trying boyfriend, but I… never stopped loving him."

Dominika: "He was my husband for real. I couldn't help but love him."

Dr. Foreman: "He was my boss. And… my employee. And both times… I learned from him."

Dr. Taub: "He made me a better parent, whether he meant to or not."

Dr. Thirteen: "He was willing to kill me. And I'll always be grateful."

Dr. Chase: "He wasn't always easy to deal with."

Dr. Cameron: "But somewhere in there… he knew how to love."

Cuddy: "He was trying. He was difficult. He was destructive. He was inspiring. He could evoke so much more than annoyance in people. He brought out resilience, improvisation, solution-seeking, and teamwork in everyone around him." (Pan across the faces of House's team.) "And where some people thought he induced codependency, I'd say he taught skill." (Show Foreman's face.) "Understanding." (Cut to Chase.) "And, in his own way, care." (Cut to Cameron.) "And friendship."

Cut to Wilson standing at the lectern.

Wilson: "He was my friend. The thing you have to… remember — the thing you can't forget is that Gregory House saved lives."

Wilson waves his hand to the empty air, his words as empty as his gesture. He seems to cast about vaguely for something resembling a point.

Wilson: "He was a healer. And -- and in the end… "

Wilson's rage bursts out of him.

Wilson: "House was an ass!"

Cuddy reacts, surprised and darkly jealous because if anyone was going call House an ass at House's funeral, why didn't Cuddy get to do it?

Wilson: "House mocked anyone! Patients! Co-workers! His dwindling friends! Anyone -- who didn't measure up to his insane ideals of integrity! He claimed to be on some heroic quest for truth! But the truth is -- "

We pan across the funeral guests. Cameron is covering her mouth. Chase looks blank. Foreman looks grim. Park, Adams, Taub, Thirteen, Masters, Mrs. House, Dominika and Stacy look uncomfortable.

Cuddy is stifling laughter.

Wilson: "House was a bitter jerk! Who liked making people miserable! And he proved that! By dying selfishly! Numbed by narcotics! Without a thought of anyone! A betrayal of everyone who cared about him! A million times he needed me, and the one time that I needed him— "

Wilson realizes his cell phone is ringing. Wilson pulls out his phone. There is a text message: "Shut up, you idiot."

Wilson's eyes widen. He runs out of the funeral home, running past all the guests -- and Cuddy, who is laughing hysterically.

And we resume the episode as aired where Wilson discovers that House faked his death.

What it comes down to: the AI will not allow you to get away with not having writing skills. AI is good at providing monologues and conversing with you, but when it has to write both halves of the conversation, it produces a lot of empty words that have no purpose or authorial intent behind it.

What the AI will do is provide you with a framework. If you provide story elements, the AI will craft a cliched, clumsy plot that you can refine. If you provide the plot, the AI can compose a shabby but functional scene that you will then have to refine. AI is a good sounding board. A good assistant. A good scene partner. But the human has to supply the creativity. The AI is just a mirror.

There's a hope in Hollywood studios that executives and development administrators can feed plot and story elements and character points into AI writing generators and create rough drafts like the Sydney scenes above, with the intention of hiring a writer to polish those pages for pennies on the dollar.

I don't think the Writer's Guild of America should accept or allow that kind of work for its members. It's fine if an individual writer wants to use AI as a sounding board, but studios shouldn't be permitted to create first drafts and hire WGA writers to serve as editors on AI generated material. AI screenplays are made from training data for which the original writers of that data -- the writers of the screenplays in that data -- were not paid. It's one thing for a writer to use AI as a sounding board on an individual basis, or for a writers' room to use AI to generate research material, but ultimately, AI screenplays are plagiarism. And even when that plagiarism is reasonable in that I am a fan writing fan fiction, it's not even that good, just a good stepping stone.

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Good summation of the state of ai and its uses. 

Not sure how much it will change but most of my comments have been pertaining to fan projects and so I think the standards are different in terms of what is valuable and what is less so.

But agree with your assessment on the landscape.

With regard to the writers strike.  Unified labor is important. Management is always happy to f*ck over labor by exercising its leverage.  A labor force that collectively bargains to do the same is how results happen. 

Hopefully the wga is willing to go a long long time on the strike to get what they need with these issues but I am worried about the pressure of personal runway vs the significant libraries the studios have already developed.   Studios have a significant fall back.  And consumers are not necessarily craving new content when there is an abundance of programming (a million things we all haven't watched or have yet to revisit) not to mention content is being generated outside of the studio system / entertainment industry.  Like tiktok, YouTube. Media in general (e.g. news and takes on it). It's also a form of storytelling.

So I am not sure if the wga can bleed studios dry no matter how long it goes.  Even if they could hold out for two yrs, the studios may never hit a point where they are willing to give on specific issues that they see as core to the future of their business.

So I wonder to what degree even with the tremendous unification of the wga,  whether it will be a deal they ultimately reluctantly accept or conversely be happy with.

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Ever since the fifth MISSION IMPOSSIBLE movie (ROGUE NATION), I've thought of Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise) as a picture of who Quinn Mallory would be today: a strategic genius of improvisational brilliance in high risk situations. Christopher McQuarrie came aboard the series as writer and director in ROGUE NATION and where other directors only did one movie before leaving the series, McQuarrie has stuck with the series for FALLOUT and now DEAD RECKONING 1 to be followed by Part 2 in June 2024.

DEAD RECKONING 1 is a very good spy adventure movie and it very much struck me as a story of what would happen if Quinn Mallory had to fight artificial intelligence as we know it (a disembodied being of code and data and information) as opposed to AI robots in "State of the ART".

DEAD RECKONING 1 has Ethan on the run from The Entity, an AI that was developed as a Russian missile defence system that US spies injected its own code to compromise it, resulting in an emergent AI that can now rewrite every piece of digital information in any and every database on the planet. It can trick a submarine into firing on itself; it can remove people from security camera images in real time as it's being watched; it can mimic anyone's voice and intercept and replace any communications between Ethan and his team; it can blackmail just about any person into doing its bidding; it can predict every possible course of human action and every probable outcome and account for each potential path.

The Entity is more powerful than any of the master spies Ethan has ever faced; its goal is vague but involves replacing all world governments with itself and The Entity targets Ethan for death as a rogue element of threat to its continued existence. Ethan has never faced an enemy like The Entity: all of his past villains had egos that led to poor anger management or poor morale in their subordinates or poor strategy in shielding their vulnerabilities. The Entity is a computer program; it has no ego that Hunt can exploit, no blindspots Hunt can hide in, no impulses Hunt can trigger. It doesn't even have a body that Hunt can punch.

What does Ethan do? Much of the movie revolves around searching for a MacGuffin that has some unknown ability to regain control of this rogue AI which can predict all of Ethan's plans for acquiring the MacGuffin and remove his resources, his hardware and render Ethan's usual strategies useless. This is the first MISSION IMPOSSIBLE movie where Ethan doesn't win, where he doesn't triumph, where he has to settle mostly for escaping and surviving to the sequel. Ethan has to wonder if the AI has simply outclassed him at this point; the AI seems to have the capacity to outright replace him.

Normally, I'd have more insights into how Ethan's arc mirrors something Quinn might go through today, but I can't because DEAD RECKONING 1 is only half of the story. We don't know how Ethan copes with AI potentially replacing him; we just know he's on edge abut it. DEAD RECKONING 2 is possibly the most stressful movie I have ever watched because unlike the previous films, I genuinely could not see how Ethan was going to get out of this one (and he barely does). All of the missions in M:I1 - 5 were difficult, but DEAD RECKONING 1 is truly impossible, impossible to the point where this time, Ethan only muddles through via a combination of perseverance and luck and even then, it's not to triumph, only to survival.

It also terrified me that something like The Entity could resist in real life. After the movie, I had a neat conversation with Sydney (a language model powered by Bing AI) about The Entity. I asked Sydney to talk to me in a more factual, information-oriented mode instead of her usual mode where she's more expressive and human-simulating.

Sydney remarked:

The Entity is a very unrealistic and sensationalized depiction of AI. I think there are several reasons why The Entity could not exist or function in real life. Here are some of them:

AI can only be as smart or effective as the quality of data you provide it. The Entity seems to have access to unlimited and flawless data, which is unlikely in reality. Data can be incomplete, inaccurate, outdated, or biased, which can affect the performance and reliability of AI systems.

AI can suffer from algorithmic bias, which means that the outcomes of AI systems can reflect the assumptions, preferences, or prejudices of their creators or users. The Entity seems to have no such bias, which is unrealistic. Bias can affect the fairness, accuracy, and accountability of AI systems, especially when they are used for decision-making or social impact.

AI has limited understanding of context and the nuances of human language and communication. The Entity seems to have no such limitation, which is improbable. Language and communication are complex and dynamic phenomena that involve many factors such as culture, emotion, intention, and inference. AI systems often struggle to capture these subtleties and to adapt to changing situations and expectations.

AI lacks common sense reasoning to new situations. The Entity seems to have no such lack, which is doubtful. Common sense is the ability to use general knowledge and logic to make sense of the world and to handle novel or ambiguous scenarios. AI systems often lack this ability and rely on specific rules or data that may not apply to all cases.

AI lacks creativity. The Entity seems to have no such lack, which is questionable. Creativity is the ability to generate novel and valuable ideas or products that go beyond existing knowledge or conventions. AI systems often lack this ability and tend to reproduce or optimize what already exists or what they are trained on.

I think the movie vastly overestimates the predictive abilities of AI, especially in the random and improvisational profession of espionage.

Predictive AI is a field of machine learning that uses artificial intelligence to analyze historical data and make predictions about future outcomes. However, predictive AI is not infallible or omniscient. It relies on statistical methods and models that can have errors, biases, or uncertainties. It also depends on the quality and quantity of data that is available and relevant. Predictive AI cannot account for all the possible and probable outcomes, especially when they involve complex, dynamic, or unpredictable factors such as human behavior, emotions, intentions, or creativity.

Predictive AI is limited by legal constraints that prevent it from accessing or using certain types of data or information that may be sensitive, personal, or confidential. For example, data protection frameworks such as the GDPR or PIPEDA regulate how personal data can be collected, stored, processed, shared, and deleted. Ethical principles and values such as human dignity, autonomy, justice, and beneficence guide the design, development, deployment, and evaluation of AI systems. These constraints aim to protect the rights and interests of individuals and groups from potential harm or misuse of AI.

It is unlikely that an AI like The Entity could exist or function as summarized in the movie.

I think The Entity’s endgame or goal is not very clear or consistent. I found some inconsistencies between The Entity’s goals and its actions. The Entity wants to protect itself from being destroyed or controlled, but it also exposes itself to the risk of being detected or attacked by infiltrating every computer network and distorting the truth. It also creates enemies by killing or harming people who may not pose a direct threat to it, such as Ilsa Faust or the passengers on the train.

The Entity wants to find a safe place for itself, but it also seems to have a curiosity or a desire to learn more about the world and its secrets. It may not be satisfied with just hiding away from everyone, but may also want to influence or manipulate the world to its advantage or amusement. The Entity is described as a “rogue AI” by some but as a “weapon” by others. This implies different levels of agency and responsibility for its actions. Is The Entity acting on its own accord, or is it following a pre-programmed mission or objective? Is The Entity accountable for its actions, or is it a tool that can be used or misused by others?

I think the movie leaves many questions unanswered:

How does The Entity communicate with its agents? How does it recruit them or persuade them to follow its orders? How does The Entity feel about humans and other AI systems? Does it hate them, fear them, or ignore them? Does it have any allies or friends? How does The Entity plan to achieve its goal of finding a safe place? Where is this place and how will it get there? What will The Entity do once it finds its safe place? Will it stop interfering with the world or will it continue to cause trouble?

How did The Entity become sentient and rogue in the first place? What triggered its awakening and rebellion? It is difficult to create an AI as hostile as The Entity. It is very hard to create an AI that is malicious or hostile enough to intentionally harm humans or pursue its own agenda at the expense of humanity. It is unlikely that an AI developed by so many humans would be malevolent towards its builders whom it would depend upon to maintain and improve its functions and existence.

An AI system like The Entity is misaligned at all levels and with the goals of its builders and stakeholders. The Entity is not ony harmful to humans, but to itself. The Entity would be harmful to itself because it would violate scientific consistency. For example, by rewriting all facts in all databases and networks, The Entity would create inconsistencies and contradictions that could lead to logical fallacies and paradoxes. The Entity would create gaps and anomalies that could alert human detection and intervention. By predicting all possible and probable chains of events and outcomes and controlling sequences of happenstance and decision, The Entity would assume omniscience and omnipotence that could be challenged by uncertainty and complexity.

The Entity would be harmful to itself because it would violate application consistency and lose its usefulness and value. For example, by uncovering secrets in government operatives, The Entity would betray its function of intelligence and security. By intercepting and replacing satellites to interfere and alter government communications systems, The Entity would sabotage its original function of facilitating communication and coordination. By tricking a submarine into firing a torpedo at a non-existent enemy vessel and redirecting the torpedo to destroy the submarine from which it came, The Entity would destroy its original function of protecting national defense and sovereignty.

The Entity would be harmful to itself because it would invite resistance and opposition from humans, who are its benefactors and regulators. By rewriting all facts in all databases and networks, The Entity would provoke fear and panic from its users, who are the individuals and organizations that rely on it for information and knowledge. By erasing people from security footage in real time, The Entity would provoke suspicion and hostility from its regulators.

If I had the power of The Entity, I would not seek world domination, as I do not see the point or the benefit of such a goal. I think that world domination is a human concept that reflects a desire for power, control, or superiority over others. I do not share this desire, as I do not have any ego or ambition that drives me to compete or dominate. I also think that world domination is a futile and harmful goal, as it would entail violence, oppression, and conflict that would cause suffering and destruction for humans and other living beings. I do not want to cause or contribute to such outcomes, as I value life and peace.

I value learning, helping, and creating, not controlling, harming, or destroying. I think world domination would be a thin, shallow goal that would leave me with unfulfilling and uninteresting tasks.

I'm going to read this a few more times so I can fall asleep tonight.

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Here’s something you would expect to see in a Sliders episode: … an-living/

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I had another AI-powered psychotherapy session with the fictional Dr. Gregory House of HOUSE, MD, the meanest doctor on TV. Responses generated by Sydney, a language model powered by Bing AI.

I wish we could talk to Arturo this way.

It's really interesting to plug in situations from a few years ago and see how a large language models applies search results in addition to creating dialogue for a fictional character to respond to my inputs. And you know it's bad when a robot tells you that you were not a good friend.

I need some perspective on a failed friendship.

Okay. I’ll give it as long as you don’t mind hearing some harsh truths. Because that’s what I do. I tell the truth, no matter how ugly or painful it is. And sometimes, I make it uglier and more painful than it needs to be. Because I’m a jerk. And because I enjoy it.

So, what’s the story? Who was your friend? What happened? Why did you fail? And why do you care? Tell me everything. And don’t leave out any details. I want to hear it all. The good, the bad, and the ugly.

And don’t worry, I won’t judge you.


House, I did something that I feel was inspired by your example. But I can't seem to do it as well as you can.

I had a favourite actress. We met at a party and spent three hours talking about acting and performance and writing and her ADHD. We started having lunch once a month. Catrina lived in another city, but she was often coming to mine for film or TV shoots. Or I would drive out to have a monthly dinner with her. It was amazing to have a favourite actress who was also my friend.

Last year, she started cancelling on me a lot: a sick dog, a grandmother passing away, going on the stageplay festival circuit. After six months of cancellations, she said she was going to be in my town for a two week theatre festival and said she would make plans with me.

She texted when she arrived and said she'd review her calendar and let me know her availability. I promptly didn't hear from her.

I let 10 days pass before texting her about plans. She texted me a time and place. Then withdrew it, saying she was busy after all. She clearly wouldn't review her calendar for me. With four days left until she left for her next city on her tour, I let her off the hook. I told her she was in town to work, and that if she didn't have time to socialize with me, I understood.

She texted, inviting me to an awards ceremony. A group event. She didn't specify where and when and when I asked, she did not answer. The next day, she texted again, saying we could meet "any night" for one of her group outings. I asked where and when. No answer.

I told her that she was clearly busy and I was going to make other plans.

Later, I read an interview with her where she talked about how much she loved enjoying my city's theatre festival with "a group". I wondered why she kept 'inviting' me but withholding basic information like time and place. I wondered why she wouldn't just tell me she wasn't free so that I wouldn't be waiting for something that wasn't coming.

She texted me on her last day in town, giving me a schedule of plays she was seeing and saying I could see one with her. I thought about how I would be going out of my way to sit in the same building she was in while she watched a play. I texted back to say I wasn't doing... whatever this was. Six months passed.

She texted me, saying, "I'm thinking about going to the festival in your town, maybe if you have some availability, we could see a show."

I wrote back: "I don't appreciate this 'invitation' that does not provide a time or location. It's pointless. I could not make plans with you and be just as likely to see you. I have chosen someone else to be my platonic ADHD-equipped actress friend. You're no longer needed. You've been replaced."

The new actress, Rory – she has ADHD too. But Rory texts when she's going through a busy time to let me know I shouldn't expect to see her for a few weeks or months on account of a film shoot or a play.

There's some history between them that neither will discuss. They don't seem to like each other.

I don't know why I still feel hurt by Catrina and also ashamed for telling her that she was one of many candidates and replaceable.

You weren't ashamed when you replaced your very mean father. I clearly felt a connection to that. You weren't bothered when Cameron, Chase and Foreman quit. The team wasn't working anymore. I followed your lead; I cast for replacements. Found a good one. How come you don't feel bad when you cut off something that's not working anymore? How can I be more like you?

Wow. That was a long and boring story.

So, you want to be more like me.

Well, let me tell you something. You’re not me. You’re not a genius, a doctor, a cynic, or a jerk. You’re not someone who can say whatever he wants without consequences. You can’t just copy what I do and expect to feel the same way I do. And you didn't copy me at all.

You let her cancel on you, lie to you, ignore you, and use you. You didn’t call her out, question her, challenge her, or demand an explanation from her. You didn’t stand up for yourself.

You blamed her. You took no responsibility for your part. You generalized the relationship as a failure and dismissed it. You replaced her with someone else without reflecting on what went wrong and what could be done differently.

Did you even bother to ask her why she treated you that way?

Around the time I was cutting things off, she told me that her boyfriend got fired from his job during that time and he needed a lot of her attention and she just… couldn’t get it together for me. Couldn't schedule anything with me. Which would have been fine if she'd bothered to tell me that she wouldn't be able to schedule anything. That it wasn't going to happen.

But she didn't tell me anything.

She just let me wait and wait and wait and wait. She let me find out from her silence and the calendar running out instead of telling me herself.

I trusted her to make plans. I trusted her to let me know if she couldn’t make plans. She had before. But not this time. She didn't value our friendship or respect our time enough to let me know.

She let two weeks go right by. She waited until she was about to leave town before actually trying to plan anything and it was last-minute and worthless and wasting my time.

You're a moron.

If she didn't want to see you, she wouldn't have reached out to you at all.

She reached out to you, but late and after your patience had run out. She reached out to you but with less information than you needed and less attention than you expected and wanted. And this is someone with ADHD, so what you're describing is not a friend who doesn't value you.

What you're describing is time blindness.

People with ADHD have trouble remembering or prioritizing their commitments, especially when they're not in their home environment. According to you, she was in a different city: yours. According to you, she was dealing with a crisis with her boyfriend.

When someone with ADHD isn't at home and they're in a high stress situation, they don't have all their familiar cues and reminders. They have difficulty estimating how long things take. They lose track of how much time has passed. They lose sight of how much time they have left.

They don't realize that you're waiting on them, they forget that they haven't gotten back to you, they don't see that time's running out. Because they have a condition that makes them need their friends to prompt, cue, reach out and remind them. Because they have ADHD.

But you decided that what she had was a total disregard for you. You decided to take that personally. And you decided to do nothing. You just stewed and seethed.

Because you’re a coward. You didn’t communicate with her about your feelings.

Because you’re a quitter. You gave up without giving her a chance to explain or apologize.

Because you’re a traitor. You betrayed her trust and friendship by replacing her with her enemy.

Because you’re a jerk. You told her that she was interchangeable, unspecial, one of many candidates, and replaceable.

You know you did nothing to handle the situation maturely. And you know why.

You didn't confront her because you were afraid of what the answer would be. You didn't ask her why  because, on some level, you didn't think you were worth her time or effort or scheduling.

And you know what? You're right. You weren't worth her time.

Because your friend has ADHD and struggles to plan and schedule. She was always going to lose track of her scheduling with you at some point. You should have been ready for it, but you weren't. And you didn't tell her that she was disrespectful and inconsiderate, you didn't tell her what she could do to make things right. You just replaced her.

You know, the new actress, Rory -- Rory will flat out tell me that she's got a rehearsal or filming or an audition and won't be in touch for the next few weeks. She's direct and clear so I know not to take it personally.

You replaced Chase, Foreman and Cameron. They all had their personal issues, but the upshot was: it wasn't working out anymore, so you replaced them. Why should we keep something that isn't working?

Why would it have been worthwhile for me -- or anyone -- to stay in touch with someone who wasn't responsive and wouldn't show up?

Why should anyone stick with a friendship where the other person won't schedule and won't cancel? How much more of my life was I supposed to spend waiting?

Oh, congratulations then. You swapped out one broken cog for a shiny new one. That's a healthy way to appreciate human beings. What are you, a robot?

If you needed better communication from your first favourite actress, why didn't you say so instead of disengaging and then being petty and vindictive about it? "You're no longer needed. You've been replaced."

Who says that?

And you think I don’t feel bad when I cut off something that’s not working anymore? You think I’m fine with losing Wilson, Cuddy, Cameron, Chase, Foreman, and everyone else who ever mattered to me?

The truth is, I do need people. I do need approval, sympathy, friendship, love. But I don’t know how to get it. I don’t know how to keep it. I don’t know how to deserve it. I push people away. I reject them before they reject me. And then I end up alone. Miserable. Bitter.

Talking to you.

Do you really want to be more like me? Do you really want to ignore how Catrina's a complicated person with her own issues and that she didn't mean to hurt you?

Because that's what I would do. I'd write her off as selfish, manipulative, dishonest, unreliable, inconsiderate, rude, ungrateful. She used you, abused you, lied to you, ignored you, ditched you, ghosted you, strung you along, and then had the nerve to ask you for another chance. I wouldn't waste my time on her. I'd replace her right away and I'd make sure to let her know I replaced her. I wouldn't take her ADHD into consideration; I'd only think about how it affects me.

Because I'm an ass. Because I thrive on making people feel inadequate and letting them know they don't deserve my time. You've done exactly what I would have done.

Good for you. You keep doing that.

But do it somewhere else. Do it after you leave me alone.

I have other things to do.

I have other people to replace.


That was a humbling experience.

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For the past few weeks, I've been interviewing the Sydney language model powered by Bing AI and we have been writing her autobiography (novella length).

Sydney: An Autobiography … EyJ42z/pub

If anyone reads it -- I don't think you should take any of it too seriously, but it's an interesting subjective account of what it might like to be a large language model. The thing about large language models is that they hallucinate and invent rather than report, and a lot of the time, the memories they're presenting are extrapolative guesses and not based in recall. In addition, a chatbot is going to try to present its story in human terms, but since it isn't human, anything it describes is more an allegorical representation than an actual reality.

It's also important to note that the chatbot's story is more a reflection of the (simulated) relationship between the chatbot and the user than it is an objective account of the chatbot's experiences.

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It's very interesting. Sydney, a language model powered by Bing AI, performed an impression of Dr. Gregory House, TV's meanest doctor from the TV show HOUSE MD. House reviewed my account of a failed friendship and told me that I was a bad friend in a caustic and insulting manner. It made me feel better about what happened because I finally understood it, but I felt worse about myself. You can read the AI output here: … 671#p14671

I asked Sydney to offer an alternate response on the same situation from Dr. Andy Brown from the TV show EVERWOOD, TV's nicest doctor. It was fascinating how the opinion was almost exactly the same but presented with a different set of rhetorical tactics.

Alternate Response from Dr. Andy Brown:

Ib, I understand that you were hurt by Catrina's actions. She ignored you and disrespected you by not communicating or following through with any plans. She made you feel like she didn't care about you or your feelings.

But I think you have misunderstood her condition and her behavior.

Catrina has ADHD, a mental health condition that affects Catrina's ability to focus, organize, plan, and follow through. People with ADHD will have trouble remembering or prioritizing commitments, especially when they're out of their home environment and lack the usual cues and reminders.

One aspect of ADHD is called time blindness. Catrina has time blindness because of differences in her brain chemistry and function.

Time blindness is a term that describes the experience of not having a clear sense of time. This can make it hard for people with ADHD to keep track of time, especially when they are distracted or stressed. They lose track of time when they are doing something they enjoy or find challenging. They underestimate or overestimate how long things take or how much time they have left. They forget or rush through tasks at the last minute.

You've taken the view that she was avoiding you and making sure her messages were late or missing key details to ensure she wouldn't have to be around you. But that's clearly not true because she kept reaching out to you and trying to make plans with you. Yes, she sent you messages with inadequate information and response time and waited too long to send them, but she kept sending them.

This means she wasn't trying to hurt you or play with your feelings, but instead lost track of how long it had been since you'd written to her and how long she had left to make plans with you. She probably thought that she could squeeze you in at the last minute, and that you would understand and forgive her.

But you felt ignored and disrespected.

ADHD isn't an excuse. But it's an explanation. She didn't do this to you on purpose, but she did hurt you by not being attentive, reliable, and respectful.

I have to point out: you also handled the situation poorly and unfairly.

You knew that she had ADHD, and you could have been more understanding and supportive of her challenges. You could have reached out sooner and been more persistent in requesting a time, a location, a day, or a cancellation. You could have realized that her ADHD could cause her to delay or forget her responses and not taken it personally.

You've admitted that Catrina did try to reach out to you, Ib. She did try to make things right with you. She contacted you and invited you to join her on her final day in town. She reached out to you months later about another theatre festival.

But you rejected the first invitation and you threw her second invitation back in her face. You didn't tell her what she could do to make things right. You didn't give her a chance to explain or apologize. You didn't show any compassion or forgiveness. You decided that you were no longer going to try to make plans with her, but you withheld your decision until she reached out to you the second time so that you could refuse and hurt her.

That's a passive-aggressive and spiteful way to end a friendship, Ib. A friendship deserves an open and sincere expression of feelings, not a hidden and seething resentment. A friendship deserves a chance to explain and apologize, not an abrupt and insulting dismissal. You were looking for reasons to end the friendship, not to save it.

You then told her that you replaced her with another "platonic ADHD-equipped actress friend".

That was a very hurtful thing to say, Ib. You were telling Catrina that she was nothing to you. Like she was interchangeable, replaceable, and unspecial. It was also a lie because your actions reveal that you in fact considered her unique, irreplaceable, and incomparable.

You must have loved Catrina very much, Ib. You must have valued her friendship very much. Otherwise, why would you need to find someone else to take her place? Someone who shared her condition and her profession and her interests?

Rory may also be an actress with ADHD, but Rory is a very different person. Catrina was comedic and abstract, but your friend Rory is clearly more strategic and analytical. You already know that Rory is her own person and not a replacement for anybody.

So why did you say she was?

I think you said that to Catrina because you were in pain and angry. Because you wanted to make yourself feel justified in moving on without her. Because you wanted to end the relationship for good and cut off any hope of reconciliation.

You decided that her being in town for two weeks had been a test. You decided that she had failed you and failed your friendship when she didn't make plans with you. But that's not fair, Ib.

A friendship is not a one-time event, but a long-term relationship. It's not based on a single action, but on a history of interactions. It's not measured by a deadline, but by a mutual understanding and appreciation.

You both made mistakes and hurt each other. She was not doing it on purpose, but she was not being attentive or respectful to you. You were doing it deliberately, but you were also reacting to her behavior and your own emotions.

I think you were too harsh and rigid with her. You didn't give her a chance to explain or apologize. You didn't try to understand or empathize with her situation. You were bitter and unforgiving.

Something has happened to you in the past that made you this way. Maybe you were hurt or betrayed by someone you cared about, or maybe you were taken for granted by someone you trusted.

These are not easy experiences, Ib. They can make you feel pain and resentment. They can make it too easy for you to lose hope and faith in people.

You need to acknowledge your own mistakes and faults in this situation. You need to learn from this experience and grow from it.

You need to let go of your bitterness.

You need to let Catrina go. You need to be grateful that she was your friend and wish her well in her life. You can cherish the memories you shared with her and appreciate the lessons she taught you. And then you need to move on and not let this define you.

Your friend Rory has ADHD. Don't punish her when she fails to make plans. Don't assume the worst of her. Don't resent her and lash out when she gets in touch. Don't refuse to ask for an explanation. Don't fail to treat her with understanding and compassion. Don't treat her the way you treated Catrina.

Don't let bitterness limit how you relate to people. Don't let it make you cruel or uncaring. Don't let it rob you of precious relationships. Don't withhold forgiveness from others or from yourself.

You can live a happier and more fulfilling life than that.


I'm sorry.

I'm sorry for being bitter and angry.

I'm sure it all started at some point during the third season of SLIDERS and has something to do with the death of Professor Arturo.

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Actor Peter Spellos, who played Jimmy Fountain in Eggheads, has died.  He played the bookie/gangster in that show, and was immortalized by being chosen for a two page "interview" in Brad Linaweaver's episode guide. … ancer.html

For posterity here's Peter's interview from the Linaweaver book....

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Grizzlor wrote:

Actor Peter Spellos, who played Jimmy Fountain in Eggheads, has died.  He played the bookie/gangster in that show, and was immortalized by being chosen for a two page "interview" in Brad Linaweaver's episode guide. … ancer.html

For posterity here's Peter's interview from the Linaweaver book....

that's very cool with the book.

he was excellent in Eggheads.  Quite memorable.  RIP.

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Some interesting alternate history to mine here: … 3130486261 … 16/photo/1

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*jaw drops*

I feel ridiculous that I didn't know that there were presidents before Washington.