books, audiobooks and audio dramas have always been the best way for a sliders revival.

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TemporalFlux wrote:

Just noticed this.  The Quantum Leap marathon is still going even now (until noon central)

https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/syfy-ann … ridays?amp

I’m sure Sliders will get its turn eventually

Wow

How great would that be if sliders returned?

Last aired 2003 to 2005 I believe.

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Lego_Sliders wrote:

Thanks, it'll be on the list for season 3 adventures. I want to finish the most commonly used sets for S1 & S2: Quinn's L.A.B., the park, dominion hotel, brick wall with vortex.
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This is the best version of the vortex in my opinion. I never liked LSC's ketchup and mustard uniform.

https://i.ibb.co/Yt6hNSf/sliders-st-claire.jpg

This is the last Team-Up!!! for now. I'll be moving on to building Quinn's L.A.B.


Amazing.  Simply amazing.

These are all great points and frankly I would add that the amount of shows in a season back then got writers to the point of caring less because they had to crank out so much product.  As you pointed out the business model was more so ad supported back then.

I personally am not a fan of a fair amount of reboots that don't continue with or honor the original characters.  I feel like the original actors and characters literally get dumped.  It seems though hard to get revivals green light vs. reboots.  Old shows have baggage and tend to be dated because it happened 20 or 30 yrs ago.  It is less "cool" for a programming exec to green light them.

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I'm howling.

Amazing!

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Lego_Sliders wrote:

[Someday... by FM]

We play a game of touch and go
Your door is open but your heart is closed
I heal your hurts and pay the price
You walk away, you don't think twice
Maybe I'm just a fool
Who answers when you call
Baby, who else will shelter you
When the rain begins to fall?

Someday you'll coming running to me
When you know it's a prison, being free
Someday you'll stop chasing your dreams
Someday you'll come running...

https://i.ibb.co/MPBJ3LV/sliders-obsession.jpg

Obsession, part 1, complete.

hahaha... that's awesome

the red / greenlight thing was used in at least one other multiverse project

it would be awesome if the doctor strange thing was a direct homeage.  sliders has had effect on culture by influencing rick & morty (alongside back to the future).

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WOW, I absolutely love these!!

ireactions wrote:

SAVED BY THE BELL REBORN has been cancelled on Peacock.
https://www.cbr.com/saved-by-the-bell-r … d-peacock/

NBCUniversal is clearly not in a great financial position right now.

Definitely hard to make a hit out of a revivial.  Though I am not sure the batting average is worse than new shows.  Although a new show maybe you are more likely to find a triple or home run.

Peacock has been not a disaster but hasn't gone well, and they are certainly hemorrhaging money from that particular business unit.   We may see NBCU eventually merge with another company if they see declines with their other business units.  They certianly wont have a stand out product for streaming.

Their best IP is back to the future.... which isn't coming back.  What other IP do they have?  Paramount at least has star trek, HBOMax has Warner Bros movie and the tastemakers of HBO....

NBC isn't gonna go away so it's not like that network's stuff will ever premiere on streaming in the near future.

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https://xfilespreservationcollection.com/

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0383/2764/8387/files/XFPopeningannouncmentupdate2_540x.jpg?v=1644794383

love this...

Carter watched the pilot with fans..

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The X Files: Official Archives book is soo well done

I believe there was just a Chris Carter event at the x files museum.

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Lego_Sliders wrote:

Have you noticed that each Slider is color coordinated? Quin-yellow/tan, Prof.-black/gray/brown, Wade- red/pink, Rembrandt-gold/green. Proof: S1, Ep.2.- Fever, and S2, Ep.3- Gillian of the spirits.
https://i.ibb.co/MNMc67V/sliders-wade.jpg

ha, that's awesome!

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Grizzlor wrote:

Cleavant returns to Broadway this May, taking over as the Wizard! 

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/T … fwI1-3csg8

that's awesome

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If you have someone democrats love than republicans will hate them and half the country is pissed anyway.

Maybe the answer is someone neither side hates nor loves.

That's in part how I am looking at the current situation.

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Lego_Sliders wrote:

Bond... Derek Bond. Is finished. Wade is still in makeup.

excited!!

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The bees are a smart delivery mechanism.

There's aspects of the mythology that I love.

As you mentioned there are casual fans and there are hardcore fans.  It's probably a lot harder for a hardcore fans to tolerate with very real issues with continuity and mythology.  Casuals fans can look the other way, simply in part because they don't always see the problems.

I think I heard something like when S10&11 returned, the very broad casual audience didn't like the humor stuff -- they wanted the monster of the week.  And of course hardcore fans liked quirky stuff.

I hope the new series in development, The X-Files: Albuquerque, actually happens.

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Lego_Sliders wrote:

Prof. Arturo: Jesus, Mary and Joseph.... I think I just seen God and I could have sworn he was driving a Cadillac.
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Rembrandt 'Cryin' Man' Brown: Here you go, Pay-vill!
Pavel 'Russian Cabbie' Kurlienko: That's Pavel!

https://i.ibb.co/R2TkYfL/sliders-brown.jpg

haha!  amazing.

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Lego_Sliders wrote:

Are there any other characters from seasons 1 & 2 that need some love?

Definitely Wade!

and Derek in Obsession.

And this psychic in Into the Mystic:
http://earthprime.com/wp-content/upload … 10-005.jpg

and Gillian in Gillian of Spirits.

and Mel Torme in Greatfellas.

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Wow this is amazing!!

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ireactions wrote:

This is just my personal opinion: Mulder and Scully are bad friends, bad employees, bad neighbours -- I don't mean bad as in evil, I mean bad in that they are incompetent and terrible at their jobs and responsibilities. They are arguably worse than the sliders.

I'm not a fan of THE X-FILES. I do not like it. I respect its place in TV history. I am a student of THE X-FILES. I've watched it. I'm aware of it. I'm familiar with it. But I didn't buy that X-FILES casefile format episode guide because I like THE X-FILES or feel compelled to purchase the merchandise; it was an interesting project. I didn't buy THE X-FILES comics because I am a fan of the show; I liked the writer, Joe Harris, and felt he would do something strong with the series.

To review the sliders: Quinn was a terrible scientist and team leader in Seasons 3 - 4; Maggie was a terrible soldier in Season 3 and had a number of odd lapses in Seasons 4 and 5. The only reason Wade, Rembrandt and the Professor don't rank as terrible friends is because Wade vanished, Rembrandt only received four A-plots across Seasons 3 - 5 ("The Prince of Slides," "Asylum," "The Java Jive" and "Requiem"), and the Professor died before it went from bad to really bad.

But Mulder and Scully are arguably worse than the sliders. The sliders lost their original creators. In contrast, Mulder and Scully had Chris Carter writing them from 1993 - 2018.

Mulder is a bad friend and a bad partner: right up to 2018, he would not provide Scully, his colleague and teammate, with a desk in her office.

Scully isn't a bad friend to Mulder, but her attitude towards her life of public service is suspiciously inept.

Mulder and Scully are terrible investigators: they repeatedly fail to do anything more than observe paranormal events. They are also terrible public servants, repeatedly abandoning innocent people to die.

The most telling example for me when I was watching this show in middle school: in the Season 3 episode, DPO, Mulder and Scully encounter a psychotic teenager with electrical powers. By the end, Mulder and Scully have failed to find a way to charge the perpetrator with the murders or to depower or contain or imprison him; the next episode has them working on their next case, having presumably abandoned the entire state of Oklahoma to be ruled by a low-rent Electro.

By the Season 4 premiere, Mulder has a full picture of the alien invasion coming in 2012 and a weapon that is effective against aliens; despite this, Mulder makes no effort to share this knowledge or mount a defence and as late as 2008, Mulder is pointedly ignoring any need to fight off Colonization.

Mulder and Scully are terrible friends who are making zero effort to save your life or mine from an alien invasion and the fact that no invasion happened in 2012 seems less like effort and more like luck. If there are two people I don't want around in a crisis or a mystery, it's Mulder and Scully.

To be fair: I don't think it's entirely deliberate. I think that 90s TV called for running arcs to be siloed and Chris Carter wrote Mulder and Scully as passive observers because he found it unrealistic that normal humans could seriously battle supernatural forces -- but considering Mulder and Scully have been working since 1993, their total lack of professional development right up to 2018 is extremely poor.

Darin Morgan, Glen Morgan, James Wong, Vince Gilligan and even Frank Spotnitz recognized the problem that Mulder and Scully were overly detached and passive. All of them wrote scripts that made some effort to change this, but Carter would invariably revert to his factory defaults right up to the 2018 season's "Plus One" where Mulder and Scully are shockingly indifferent to a man fearing for his life.

Writer Joe Harris for the IDW comic book line made a determined effort to have Mulder and Scully actively focusing on the delayed but impending alien invasion only to be curtailed and cancelled.

As it stands onscreen: aside from short exceptions, Mulder and Scully are not good at being your friends and not good at their jobs. They are incompetent, ineffectual, indifferent, non-commital, uninvested, disinterested and have no regard for saving your life. That's not how the actors play their characters, but the show makes it clear: If you, RussianCabbie, were being tormented by a psycho with electrical powers, Mulder and Scully would show up, take notes, file a report, and then leave you to be further menaced and eventually murdered.

In the event that you are facing a psycho with electrical powers or an alien invasion, I suggest you skip calling Mulder and Scully. Call Sam and Dean from SUPERNATURAL or Peter and Olivia and Walter from FRINGE or Wynonna Earp or Liv Moore from iZOMBIE or the cast of DOCTOR WHO or Emma Swan from ONCE UPON A TIME, all of whom actually try to close the paranormal case of the week before going to the next one.

I would call the sliders, but I can't totally recommend that either given their poor job performances across Season 3 - 5.

 
An interesting take.   Maybe an accurate assessment... or at the very least a fair way of looking at it.

That said, I feel there's some pulpiness to the show and I'm OK with the approach to the monster of the week and not having to tie up loose ends on those.  Part of the point of it is just that electro guy exists.  And Mulder's own curiosity to explore the unexplained, or the stuff nobody would belief.  Not necessarily for us, but for him.  And Scully's desire to keep investigations based on finding facts in front of acting on faith.  And the conflict with that against the faith she lives by.

For me, I love Mulder's dry humor, his obsessions, his weirdness.  Hey, isn't it great that not every character on tv is like Matthew Perry or something?  In some ways... mulder made it OK to be weird.  And we all know about the scully effect.

I don't pretend to be able to wrap my head around the mythology, nor do I get overly concerned about it.   I think it's fair for viewers to want everything to make perfect sense and break down how it holds up to reality.  It's just not how I personally process these things.  I'm willing to look the other way, and think life doesn't always seem to make perfect sense anyway even though there's underlying reasons for everything that we don't always have access to.

I love the partnership between the pair.  They have different dynamics that make for an interesting pairing. I just love what the show gives me and really don't worry about where it falls short.  I feel like there's always good stories to be told with both and would love to see more in the future.  If I'm not crazy about half of it or even two thirds, I still get the episodes that really fall into the X-Files classic material.  I suppose it may also be because I don't go in with huge expectations and don't know the mythology back and forth that I'm less bothered.

With a franchise like Blade Runner, I'm a bit more critical. So I guess I can understand frustration with approach and writing at times.

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update: I realized I like Succession more than X-Files...

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Morgan certainly would be great to take over it the show was ever handed over.

I think generally X-Files really works for me because of the Mully Sculder relationship and characters.  I just want to watch them, and them in situations... particuarly the dramatic ones X-Files allows.

I can live with other issues because at the end of the day, I am interested in following them along.

I never was into X-Files to the same degree as Sliders, and I def. think you are a bigger fan othan me of the X-Files (and have much greater knowledge), but as far as shows go... well, other than Sliders, I can't think of a show that I like more.  OK, maybe Breaking Bad?

I'm quite picky with shows. And at this point, it's hard to invest in 5-10 hours or more in new ones.  Maybe I'll completely watch all the season of like 3-4 new series a year.

Other than our classic foursome from SLIDERS, I just can't think of other characters I want to spend time with more than Scully and Mulder.  I think for both shows, the characters work because of the relationship between them.  There is a bond between the characters.  And each come at life from a different angle.  And they go about their journey together, with a underlying respect for one another.

I can tolerate problems with any of the series if those characters are there. As you've said so often, you know these characters are like good friends.

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Pavel is a fairly common Russian name but I wonder if Tracy named the cab driver in the pilot Pavel after  this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Popovich

His wife has spoken about UFO -- a lifelong area of interest of tracy -- and she is also a screenwriter and author.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm … story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Popovich

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They certainly earned the nine seasons they got with very good ratings.  I agree it is shocking for a sci-fi show on fox but they really had a strong vision from the beginning and there was not much for FOX to muck with. Though maybe fox is the reason Gillian was told to walk behind David.

The movies obviously duchovny was unhappy with, especially on the budget, which he thought treated it like an indy film (not that I agree).  But the backstory on the second film failing was the studio pushing for that creative direction.

Mulder and Scully Meet the Were-Monster and The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat were classics.

There actually is a new x files series in development but it doesn't involved Mulder and Scilly.

The X files should never be more relevant though.  Our government has a new publicly acknowledged UFO office and there are rumors we may get public hearings on the matter.

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I'd say it's depressing because I want more X Files with Mulder and Scilly. 

I get that they mythology got a bit messed up and people took issue with the serialized narratives but I thought the procedural shows were decent (and in some cases very good) and I'd like more of that.

I certainly understand Gillian's anger and reluctance to return.

Btw... apparently "Gillian" turns into "William" on autocorrect.

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Not surprising but a bit depressing

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/gil … 23367.html

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ireactions wrote:

Something I wondered recently: is the Maureen Johnson who wrote four excellent SLIDERS novellas THE successful young adult novelist Maureen Johnson?

This is Maureen Johnson's SLIFIC page (archived):
http://web.archive.org/web/200811200217 … hnson.html

This is young adult author Maureen Johnson's young adult novel Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maureen_Johnson

Johnson's SLIDERS novellas are absolutely nothing like SLIDERS as a TV show. Johnson's SLIDERS novellas are actually perfect for SLIDERS. Her stories are extremely dark, alarming, disturbing, sexual, sensuous, violent and frightening -- capturing a vivid sense of what some of the more horrific slides might be like. She also captures the quartet really well, so well that I'm compelled to keep going through the story with them and accept that it's a reasonable and powerful version of SLIDERS and she makes sure to never be too traumatic.

I can't really tell from the writing styles in SLIDERS writer Johnson and YA novelist Johnson if they're the same person, but they're both really good and SLIDERS writer Johnson said she was moving into original work.

This is awesome.

Her wiki says she's on twitter...maybe someone can ask..

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Jim_Hall wrote:

Had Rob Floyd on the #SlidersRewatch on Twitter last night. We watched New Gods for Old and he designed us a specific drink.

https://slidecage.com/sliders-cocktail/

Rob sure is an artist

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Speaking of Robin, did anybody know she was a champion surfer (I think in Hawaii)?

Obviously tracy grew up in California, but I wonder if she influenced the existence of the Remmy surfing scene.

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Love this blog post from sabrina

https://www.sabrinalloyd.com/post/sprin … aa877c4df6

Jim_Hall wrote:

After hours of scanning, lighting/color correction, dust removal of each speck by hand in photoshop at 4800dpi for near 100% accurate detail. I ran it through 2x Gigapixel. Here are the results: A 91.25 Megapixel Photo in webp: https://slidecage.com/wp-content/upload … oup2x.webp. I tried 4x, and 6x to no avail. Likely software and my memory. I know Gigapixel is for low-res images but there's an example of 92.5 Megapixel even though the 35mm doesn't warrant it. Now I MUST restart my computer.

this is awesome!

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ireactions wrote:

I think Torme definitely had certain people on his mind when writing SLIDERS and Maurice Hurley was someone he despised on STAR TREK, so it makes sense that he made an arrogant middle manager Michael Hurley and a malevolently psychotic little creep Maurice Fish.

Future Torme biographers would also find it a profitable line of inquiry to look into Stephanie, a character deleted from the Pilot. Stephanie was a classmate whom Quinn was hopelessly in love with despite Stephanie regularly rejecting Quinn in one way or another. This may have made more sense when Torme was writing the script and imagining Quinn as a Tobey Maguire type instead of a Tom Cruise type.

Temporal Flux says that Stephanie's scenes were filmed and cut, but I can't imagine Jerry O'Connell's version of Quinn Mallory being afraid to tell a woman that he likes her or obsessing over someone who isn't interested.

That's a great point about Hurley too.

Or who tracy' s Stephanie was. 

So now we know cleavant singing at candlestick park and Stephanie are two musts for a collector's edition.

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Do you guys think Maurice Fish got his name after Maurice Hurley, a TNG showrunner who tracy bumped heads with?

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Do you have a link?

My wife, mother, and I all wear our masks still (mostly due to my insistence, probably).  I still see masks down here in a pretty red part of Texas, which feels good.  But for the most part, it's looking like most people are back to normal.

It's very weird.  I'll get my 4th dose when it's time (and my wife asked me about getting her 3rd), but I'm genuinely curious how the more cautious among us get back to normal when it's time.  When it's officially an endemic, will we still mask?  When the deaths stop?  When cases drop enough?  Or will we still do it, either seasonally or all year?

I don't know how to feel about that.  Obviously, I would like to get back to normal at some point, but I also want to do the responsible thing for my family and myself.

I think endemic is considered when there is no spike over the normal.  Unfortunately, we are setting a new baseline for what's normal but that maybe we haven't established the new baseline just yet. 

With omicron, at least in the U.S. the IFR (death rate) was fairly low and comparable to the flu but spread so much more abudundantly.  Really unprecedented.  Probably 2m cases a day at times (even if only 1m were captured). 

Public health officials should IMO stressing ventilation (HEPA filteration systems, you can build yourself for 50 bucks with a box fan, ductate and filters) or even purchase floor units of varying sizes.   They should actually do a good job of explaining what masks work, and of the ones that do, how well.  We have a video of biden and cdc officials promoting masking with surgical masks (and doctors and medical staff wearing them quite a bit).  No wonder people are confused.

We should be educating the public on antivirals, monoclonals, early invention/treatement and rapid tests.  I bet at least half of the people who died from covid/complications would have lived with these early interventions.  Maybe as much as 75 percent.  The Biden White House treated the vaccine as a magic bullet, that could stop transmission and eliminate severe cases.  It didn't stop tranmission.  It greatly reduced severe cases.

The problem is we have so much institutional mistrust, we have people who think the vaccine side effects are horrible but covid is nothing, and at the end of the day this is an experimental vaccine with a lack of transparency (won't get into that), and so there was always gonna be some hestitancy.  And there was way more than they expected because to some degree, their world is their own bubble, and they don't always understand some of america outside of it.  The america that doesn't trust institutions or trusts putting it all in god's hands, even though I am pretty sure god didn't want any of the 1m americans to die (and potentially 18m across the world in some estimates).

The new normal has to be educating the public on the virus, on long covid, on the tools we have in our arsnel (it's not just vaccines!) and empowering people to make individual choices while also implementing measures when necessary to assist the most vunerable populations.   Institutions and leaders need to not bend the truth (avoid the noble lie or telling part of the truth) because there's been too much of that from the get go and it has created even more distrust as the public has latched onto these things.

As of now heart disease and cancer combined kill about 2-3x more americans than covid per year.  Not sure numbers in canada.  We now have another major cause of death to contend with.  So it sucks because the older everyone grows, the less the immune system is in shape, it becomes more of a threat.  Just a bout with it can age the immune system.  People need to do what they can to avoid obesity, diabetes, etc and the governments should be supporting that and including that in the messaging.  Hopefully more money goes into medical funding and hopefully there are more breakthroughs in medical technology because of this.

We need to try to come back better out of this but in the short term we have to manage this as best we can, understandingly some people are more risk averse folks, some people just want to live their life and not be fearful about it, we have put our hospital workers through a god awful time and we have various ways of trying to let people live their life while reducing death and severe cases if we don't become political or irresponsible about it.

I think if Sliders did crossovers it would kick off the concept of sliding as available in all creative universes and then you would start to get crossovers between different properties outside of the one where Quinn etc came from.  But that's what marvel does now.  It's just not called sliding.  It's the multiverse.  I would love for it to be sliding instead.  Because then you would always have a property that is solely focused on a core group of travelers sliding around the multiverse as well.

The argument I would make for crossovers is that generally the network or studio might care about the franchise more because it is a way to create a shared cinematic or televised universe.   Universal hasn't really given a crap about Sliders.  That may have been different had they done crossovers.

QuinnSlidr wrote:

Okay...in light of our Sliders/X-Files crossover discussion, I went ahead and created a new Sliders (Season 6) + X-Files crossover intro (meant to be used only for a crossover episode...). I thought it turned out quite good. What do you think?

Buwahahaha...

https://youtu.be/7jZLlrpSmvI


lol, I love it!!!!

QuinnSlidr wrote:

God no. Please. No crossovers. The Marvel Universe makes sense.

But not crossovers on Sliders. In general, crossovers happen when networks are entirely out of original ideas.

Sliders is a series with so much original idea potential it would be criminal not to exploit that.

Like John Rhys-Davies said...Sliders could have been the next Star Trek if executed properly.

disagreement is a healthy thing.... an interesting perspective.

ireactions wrote:

Among the many missed opportunities with SLIDERS: it never did crossovers. For cross-marketing purposes, SLIDERS should have crossed over with every single Vancouver-filmed show on the FOX Network and every LA-filmed series on the Sci-Fi Channel. It never did and it's a huge waste of potential. SLIDERS should cross over with every NBCUniversal property.

great point...

Wouldn't it be cool if Quinn Mallory and Marty McFly interacted?  Would love to see those two universes collide.  Them working together would be awesome..

To me, it's an insult if they don't bring Bakula back...

For Sliders, if you are trying to do a new or younger cast but don't honor / have the original characters, that is an insult as well.  However, the folks at these networks dont really care about our beloved characters and can force any showrunner's hand.

TemporalFlux wrote:

So what amounts to the Al role (the hologram) is going to Caitlyn Bassett - a former Australian sports star?

https://deadline.com/2022/03/quantum-le … 234974313/

could be a diffferent caitlin basset?

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7000196/bio … _ov_bio_sm

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very cool

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Good addition to the conversation, ireactions.  I love the sliders discourse when its like this.  It's also why i loved the podcast -- because it made me look at things different and I know with annie, it's not always gonna be perspective without interesting criticism.

regarding sliding tech, i myself have never cared about the details. I think writers only feel they have to construct a nuts and bolds realism around that stuff because there's  a segment of the audience, more of the engineer or science or braniac mind who thinks through that portion of the world, and if they feel that it isn't always truthful, or contradicts itself, it undermines the entire world and not real.

Sliders audience to me seems less TNG and more quirky people interested in differences, interested in alternatives, and people who like the team / working-together themes of the show.

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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s … 0550993902

Annie is as good in the podcast format as the essay format...

looks like the sliders pilot got an AI remaster on a popular reddit remastering forum

https://www.reddit.com/r/AIRemastered/c … _1995_dvd/

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ireactions wrote:

I wonder if Mill Creek were obligated to hand over to Universal whatever DVD files they produced for ownership purposes. I wonder if Peacock took whatever was most recent in Universal's digital archives for streaming, unaware or uncaring as to whether or not the most recent was what was best.

(This is not an invitation for you to send me phone numbers and email addresses and map coordinates to contact NBCUniversal's home video department. I swear to God, if you do that again, I will jump into an interdimensional vortex with Henry and Ryan and disappear forever.)

lol

I think it's also unlikely mill creek sent universal the files after mill creek compressing them.  One other possibility *might* be mill creek spelled out the specs they wanted the content in, and then universal used those when the peacock deal came around but I wouldn't call it more likely than them doing the compression themselves..

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ireactions wrote:

One question would be: who produced the Mill Creek DVD files? Obviously, Mill Creek set up the disc images, but who compressed them to the point of fitting 7 - 8 episodes onto one disc? Did Universal deliver their original DVD files for Mill Creek to compress? Or did Universal's home video department receive the file size limits and hand them over? And could Peacock have simply been given the most recent versions which were then run through the standard process for SD h.264 streaming?

My strong belief is universal gave mill creek the digital files in the largest size they had them and mill creek made the decision to compress to get them to fit on a certain number of discs.

Mill Creek was dealing with the non high end, much more causal fan (this was the third release of the dvds) and at a lower price point, saving 25 cents, 50 cents, 75 cents, a dollar on discs helps preserve their limited profit margin ( which may have been something like 4/5 bucks per unit).

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ireactions wrote:

I don't know how Peacock got where they did, but the screencaps you're showing look like compressed MPEG-2 that's been re-encoded as compressed h.264.

they probably have specs they do on all their content and maybe for some content compressed h.264 holds up better visually. 

i am not sure if there is some alternative they could use for sliders but the flip side is they might find the files are too large or they don't accomodate people with slower internet.

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ireactions wrote:

Thanks, RussianCabbie!

These look like the Mill Creek files to me but run through h.264 compression (for streaming) at a low bitrate for SD content. This reduces data layers of noise/grain to make the file smaller.

The Pilot and "El Sid" are, on Universal DVD, two of the *better* presented SLIDERS episodes. The Pilot's 35mm film origins came through clearly and it looks like it was edited on film. "El Sid," while lacking the same fine detail as the Pilot, has good levels of edge contrast thanks to being edited on the industry standard of digital videotape. I have actually never seen "The Dream Masters," but Season 3 looked sharp on Universal DVD. On Peacock, all three look blurry and smeared.

As a result, details like Quinn's flannel shirt and Arturo's beard have become a blur.

It looks to me like Peacock used the Mill Creek files. But where the DVDs use MPEG2 compression (which creates the compression noise artifacts on the Mill Creek discs), streaming services put SD TV shows through h.264 compression at a low bitrate. h.264 compression doesn't generate noise artifacts; it blurs noise and grain for smaller file sizes. You get this if you stream Netflix in low quality and it looks like Peacock did this with SLIDERS as it's an SD show.

"Summer of Love" seems to have been subjected to the same h.264-type compression, but because the original video master started and finished as a blurry mess, the compression has proven irrelevant; there wasn't much to further smooth and smear in the compression.

It's incredible you haven't seen Dream Masters but I'm guessing it's premise is particularly creepy to you and it's best not watched.

In terms of what files they used, do you really think they used the "Mill Creek" files.  My guess had been they had one set of digital files that they send to all partners (though I suppose there actually may be a few, which can happen over 20 years).  I always assumed though there was one files and then the partners either heavily compressed it or did not.  The per-purchase vod files on amazon, verizon cable is awful for instance.  But I just assumed that was how the partner who received the files handled things, not because they got a crappy version of the file from universal.

If universal does have different types of files and they gave Peacock crap ones that's not excusable.  Unless Peacock wanted small size files to save on bandwidth costs but I doubt they would have made that request. 

It's possible that universal just has different versions of the files and the people who work there have no clue that they have different files with better or lower qualty and they just  send off the ones that are most convenient.

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Season 3,  The Dream Masters

https://i.ibb.co/jGYXb0Y/delete-me30.png
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El Cid

https://i.ibb.co/sbmmntX/delete-me24.png
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https://i.ibb.co/zQDcZFk/delete-me16.png
https://i.ibb.co/9TPwZ76/deleteme-15.png

593

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Summer of Love:

https://i.ibb.co/FqsWj6T/delete-me13.png
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https://i.ibb.co/Wzzkhw5/delete-me14.png

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Here's some pilot images to start:

(click thumbnail and then magnifying glass to see full size)

https://i.ibb.co/JdcwCv3/deleteme-9.png
https://i.ibb.co/vHBYD5S/delete-me8.png
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https://i.ibb.co/fQVByhZ/delete-me5.png
https://i.ibb.co/k5QgsBJ/delete-me4.png
https://i.ibb.co/NsdhkcF/delete-me3.png
https://i.ibb.co/P4cfZG8/delete-me2.png
https://i.ibb.co/J2LwjSZ/delete-me1.png

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sliders5125 wrote:

SEASON 1 is fuzzy, but also more defined than the dvd's.. this is a free show on peacock, with very few commercial breaks
.  The episode order seems to be broadcast, but so are the dvds, the show will play in broadcast order with no stops if you want, season 2 looks slightly better.

Just started season 3, watched most of season 5, and to me it looks great.

Granted my TV is 4k 65" vs an old 32" LG, so maybe it has more to do with tv, but I'm enjoying my rewatch.

Trying to get my wife into it, but she isn't a fan, views Quinn as a bad guy getting them involved in sliding, without solving the equation or really testing it before he took the group on the adventure.  The recast of the mom in season 2, and casting Clevants twin witch doesn't look identical to anyone but the cast is throwing her for a loop...(I was not a fan of Harry Potterrewatches, so she's dishing it back:)

Out if curiosity do you have the universal dvds or mill creek or something else?

Quinn always felt a lot of guilt about getting the others involved in sliding.  Maybe that will make your wife like him more.

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ireactions wrote:

Where are the screencaps?! How can you let me down after everything!?

:-)

It will definitely happen smile  Tuesday at worst, tomorrow night at best.

It's terrible peacock isn't available in Canada!

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ireactions wrote:

Good to hear that the Sci-Fi Channel years are faring well on Peacock.

How does the pilot look? And episodes 2 - 9? And Seasons 2 - 3?

On DVD, the pilot looks amazing, the eight episodes after that look terrible, Season 2 looks okay, Season 3 looks great, and Seasons 4 - 5 are excellent standard definition video.

It's a shame that the best episodes of SLIDERS have terrible to average quality aside from the pilot whereas the worst in creative quality look the best visually.

I'll take some screenshots.  The stuff that's early has soft and fuzzy edges.  It's not DVD quality from everything I recall... I believe when I got the German release I saw a significant difference with peacock goodfellas vs. It.

I'm quite picky with this stuff and have generally founded it dated looking as far as earlier seasons, pilot included.  The colonization is also an issue for me.  This is something that I think the later seasons, across all platforms suffer less from.

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Honestly, even season 5 on Peacock is nowhere near close to HD.  It's very watchable though quality wise.

It is comparitively better I think probably than the the stream that used to be on Netflix (and Hulu although hulu didn't have seasons 4-5).  It is probably better than the vod purchases you'd get from the cable operator if  you bought the episodes through that platform.  Or through like Amazon (or maybe itunes).

I haven't paid that close attention to season 5's look across all platforms.  I do know that netflix was always worse than what peacock gave for the rest of the content, the cable operator was even worse than netflix, amazon was also pretty bad.  I mostly looked at S1&S2.   Comet at times haven't been awful for the later episodes I think.

Looking at what's on Peacock, they could easily up-res S5 with Topaz and come up with a pretty respectable image that wouldn't match HD but maybe get closer.  I think what  they have on now for S5 is respectable enough as SD content, compartively better looking than earlier seasons and probably better than we've seen it on other streaming / vod platforms in the 2007-2018 era.

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pilight wrote:

IRS will require facial-recognition to access online system

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022/01 … 642779267/


The Internal Revenue Service will require taxpayers to take selfies and verify their identities through ID.me to access online accounts starting this summer

I believe they are doing this to cut down on fraud and I am sure coming up with solutions can be difficult but this strikes me as completely irresponsible of them and potentially infringing on rights.

I do not trust the incompetent government or IRS to be able to protect that database of photos.  Either it gets into the wrong hands... just like all of our addresses, social security numbers, addresses etc regularly do with other data leaks or the govt themselves even misuses it.  Or the tech doesn't even work and doesn't let people in their own accounts.

If there's a leak of a database of photos with other sensitive info then identity theft will be even easier.   And people do have a right to be able to access their tax info... they shouldn't have to risk identity fraud to be able to do it.

Peacock lost 1.7b last year...

https://deadline.com/2022/01/comcast-pe … 234920844/