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*jaw drops*

I feel ridiculous that I didn't know that there were presidents before Washington.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I think of the original Mortal Kombat as one of my guiltiest pleasures.  I still enjoy that movie quite a bit.  Annihilation is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

The newest remake is...fine?

I still maintain that everyone should watch ANNIHILATION if only to appreciate what happens when scripting, cinematography, performance and basic editing fall away from a project, all to better appreciate it when a movie does care about such things.

Also, it led to this delightful bad movie review-retrospective of the entire film:
https://jabootu.net/?p=610

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Grizzlor's laughably and willfully poor reading comprehension on masks continues:

Grizzlor wrote:

You technically agreed with what I said about masks.  If you're not wearing an N95, you are likely unprotected.

Grizzlor, you are lying. Since 2021, I've written post after post about how you are completely wrong to claim only N95 masks work:

https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 774#p11774
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 776#p11776
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 778#p11778
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 780#p11780
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 783#p11783

Posted by me in 2022:

ireactions wrote:
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 267#p13267

One of the things that I found bizarre and likely due to low information: a lot of people declared that any non-N95 mask was worthless and couldn't protect. That's like saying that any non-Ford car can't start.

N95 may be the most well-known brand and Ford may have been the most prominent car, but prominence isn't exclusivity. Ford isn't the sole manufacturer of internal combustion engines and the electrostatic filtering is not restricted to N95 masks.

I have never said that N95 masks are the only mask that protect. Lots of non-N95 masks have electrostatic filtration, a proven means of mitigating viral transmission by filtering droplet and aerosol transmission. Electrostatic filters have existed since 1907 and are used in air conditioning, KF94 masks, KN95 masks, surgical masks and N95 masks. Electrostatic filters catch viral particles, that's basic engineering. The filtration is unaffected by rants about individual health conditions or mandates or brand loyalty to N95s.

You're just lying.

Grizzlor wrote:

We come to Mr. Wheaton, and you know what, yes, you are absolutely correct, I was LAZY, and didn't research his multitude of claims.  I have in fact heard them all, because I heard him on Rosenbaum's podcast recount them all

Grizzlor, you've been informed repeatedly, by me, of Wil Wheaton's claims against his family in the STAR TREK thread on two separate occasions. You also confess to listening to Wheaton's claims in a podcast, so you were fully aware of his claims.

Yet, you claim you were ignorant of Wheaton's family issues in the same paragraph where you describe listening to them. You are lying. It's like you think I can't scroll up or re-read previous posts or previous sentences.

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Grizzlor claims that without full human trials, a vaccine should be considered useless. This impossible standard would prevent every annual vaccine from being updated in time to save anyone from illness. Such a standard only serves Grizzlor's anti-vaxxer fervor.

Reformulations for annual and bi-annual vaccines receive abbreviated clinical trials. The underlying technology is under constant review. Full human trials for reformulated vaccines would be like buying a new kettle for each tea bag.

The flu vaccine has 40 - 60 percent efficiency in reducing influenza because it's based on forecasting flu viruses. It's not random guesswork as Grizzlor claims, but based on extensive surveillance data. While strains of influenza exist outside the annual shot, a 40 - 60 percent reduction in chance of illness is worth the dose.

The current 2023 COVID vaccine isn't engineered for the currently dominant variant, but it's targeting its very-recent lineage. Antibodies for variants of lineage, while not able to fully prevent infection in current strains, have sufficient cross-application to ward off severe illness, hospitalization and death.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2023/what- … inter-2023
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/updat … gs-to-know

As a seventh dose recipient of a COVID-19 vaccine, I complete regular questionnaires for ongoing study of this vaccine.

Grizzlor is demanding comprehensive clinical results that no annually and bi-annually reformulated vaccine can offer. It's a specious, disingenuous argument, effectively a lie.

In terms of masks, Grizzlor's claims are lies or red herrings: he cites the absence of mask mandates, refers to COVID statistics, none of which have any bearing on a simple fact: electrostatic filters catch viruses.

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You know, Grizzlor, if you're going to lie to me, at least lie competently.

Grizzlor wrote:

November 21, 2023
the flu shot, probably worthwhile for the elderly or immune compromised but really of little benefit for the general public.

Grizzlor wrote:

November 30, 2023
I never said anything about flu vaccines previoiusly,

You are either a liar or you are so disordered and disoriented that you can't keep track of your own writing from sentence to sentence. Personally, I think you're a liar and you have used up any benefit of the doubt.

You are an egotistical fool who thinks it's up to you to tell people they are obligated to maintain relationships with abusive family members because you just "can't wrap" your head around cutting ties with abusers.
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 921#p14921

You are an ignorant twit who accused me of "fake news" for mentioning that Allison Mack was being investigated for sex trafficking for her cult, and your accusation was based solely on the fact that Mack posed for a photo with you. (By the way, Mack recently finished her prison sentence after pleading guilty to all charges.)
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php?pid=6988#p6988

You are a hapless oaf who blames FOX executives for SLIDERS' mismanagement during a discussion of its seasons on the Sci-Fi Channel.
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php?pid=8381#p8381

Public health is not a subject for your fumbling incompetence. Public health isn't STAR TREK or JOHN WICK or MORTAL KOMBAT or SLIDERS. If you want to engage in inane rants on popular culture, you go right ahead, but public health actually matters.

Grizzlor, if you continue to falsely claim that vaccines don't work or masks don't work and discourage people from masks or vaccination, you will be banned for a week. A second violation will see you banned for 30 days. A third violation will be your last.

Moderation, like electrostatic filtration and spike protein recognition, doesn't require your respect in order to work.

Well, I can say this: Sony's contract with Tom Holland would unquestionably see Holland required to perform in any Sony films they want him to perform in. Sony owns the film rights to Spider-Man, Holland is their employee as the actor who plays Spider-Man, and they have what's effectively a loan on Holland to Marvel Studios for MCU appearances in Marvel Studios films, and the use of Kevin Feige's services for Sony's Tom Holland films with the name "Spider-Man" in the title.

Sony can put Tom Holland's Spider-Man in any Sony-based film they want -- but at Marvel Studios' request, they have not done so, instead creating a Sony live action movie universe that seems to have a lot of Spider-Man's friends and enemies but not Spider-Man himself, because Spider-Man and the MCU combined have been more successful for Sony than having their own Spider-Man. Sony further loaned out the use of Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire's Spider-Mans to Marvel Studios as well as Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock.

I imagine that in time, Sony will exactly what Slider_Quinn21 theorizes they would do with Tom Holland's Spider-Man, simply to exercise their use of an intellectual property and their access to an actor.

All I can say is, the first VENOM movie was kind of fun. The second movie felt like the same movie as the first one, at least to me, and chaotically less fun, at least to me. And I am currently confined to quarters at present because my doctor just diagnosed me with pneumonia and says I have to avoid human contact for 48 hours after I start on the antibiotics, so I may well watch MORBIUS if only to offer an informed opinion on it.

I am deeply intrigued by MADAME WEB because I love women with superpowers and MADAME WEB seems to offer at least four of them in one movie.

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Has Grizzlor actually bothered to watch the JOHN WICK and MORTAL KOMBAT movies before spouting a dismissive opinion about them and calling his friends and anyone who watches them "stupid"? Or is this another off the cuff reaction of uninformed ignorance like Grizzlor writing off LOWER DECKS before he'd seen it and PRODIGY when he'd never seen it or claiming that Tom Holland would never do a VENOM movie when he's not only worked on them but would have to if Sony decreed it?

I ask merely for the information. (I take it these friends on Grizzlor's social media feeds aren't close friends.)

I haven't seen the JOHN WICK films myself, but there's certainly a market for Keanu Reeves engaged in combat as THE MATRIX would indicate. And of the WICK films are budgeted to earn revenue that exceeds the cost of making them, I imagine Slider_Quinn21 will have many splendid weekends to enjoy more of these films.

And as for MORTAL KOMBAT, the first MORTAL KOMBAT movie is a minor achievement of cinematic competence by the very shaky Paul WS Anderson who has produced many other incompetent movies. Because I like women fighting monsters (BUFFY style), I've struggled through most of the RESIDENT EVIL movies which are an experience in filmic torment. And the second MORTAL KOMBAT film is one of the most hilariously inept movies ever made that actually should be watched by film students as an example in what not to do. Have never seen the reboot.

Grizzlor wrote:

Tom Holland is not going to do Venom movies.  Why would he?  He's done far better for himself as part of the MCU at Disney.  The first Venom was well-received, but the sequel was not, and I shudder to imagine how bad the third one will be.

Tom Holland filmed one day on the first VENOM movie for a cameo scene, but Marvel Studios asked Sony to cut the scene and Sony complied. Holland was featured in a B-roll cameo in the VENOM sequel, showing up in news footage.

https://www.cbr.com/report-tom-holland- … by-marvel/

There was some intention for Tom Hardy to feature more prominently in NO WAY HOME, but it didn't work out.

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a3971 … nate-role/

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

When Majors signed his contract, due to the multiversal nature of the character, Marvel agreed that Majors would be the only one playing Kang on screen.  Any variant of Kang has to be played by Majors.  That way, they couldn't bring in different versions of Kang and have them compete with Majors for screen time (or see how each one of them played).  If Kang is on screen, he's played by Majors.  He cannot be recast.

There was this situation in CAPTAIN AMERICA (Vol. 3, 1998) where writer Mark Waid wanted to have Captain America fight Kang the Conquerer. However, Kang turned out to be tied up in an AVENGERS plot, so Waid was forced to reveal that Kang in his story was actually a different character, Korvac. It happens!

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I wanted to take a few days to mull this over this other item, one of the more absurd and ridiculous things I have ever seen on this message board (yes, more ridiculous than my fanfic or confessionals):

Grizzlor wrote:
Wil Wheaton is at the top of this list.  This really has nothing to do with his masking, it's just the person.  He was once a working young actor, and when his career dried up, he pivoted to what he does over the last few decades and good for him.  However, a large part of what he does now, career wise, is playing victim.  He disowned his entire family, which in and of itself is something I personally can't wrap myself around.  They didn't sexually abuse him.  They had him work as an actor and supposedly took advantage of him finally, and for that he relates them all to the Devil, even his siblings who had nothing to do with that.  Again, this is Wil's shtick.

This ridiculous quote from Grizzlor claims that the only form of child abuse is sexual abuse. This is completely false both sociologically and legally. Child abuse can take on many forms: physical and mental abuse, emotionally abuse, gaslighting, neglect, labour exploitation, and more. To claim otherwise is false information and will not be allowed here either. Consider this another moderator warning.

https://www.healthyplace.com/abuse/chil … hild-abuse
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/241532

Grizzlor's comments are an insult to every survivor of child abuse. They are an insult towards me.

Furthermore, Grizzlor, your summary of Wheaton's grievances against his family show you have zero awareness of his issues with them: how they stole his STAR TREK residuals, left him struggling to pay for food and housing, perpetually on the verge of homelessness, and left him in that situation over over a decade until he discovered they had been intercepting his residuals.

You touch on none of that, which means that you are either willfully ignoring the facts (the way you have ignored the facts of how vaccines and masks work as specified in the studies with immunologists to which you linked before you became an anti-vaxxer) -- or you're just presenting yet another uninformed, off the cuff reaction like when you insulted LOWER DECKS before you'd seen it and insulted PRODIGY despite having never seen it.

In addition to Wheaton's family stealing his STAR TREK residuals, they also lent him money and demanded he pay it back with interest; he later discovered that money he was paying back was his own residual payments. Wheaton has plenty of reason for Wheaton to cut off contact. And then we have your asinine take:

Grizzlor wrote:
He disowned his entire family, which in and of itself is something I personally can't wrap myself around.

Who exactly died and put you in charge of evaluating whether or not people should maintain relationships with abusive family members? Has the self-importance of posing for photos with the cast of SLIDERS gone to your head?

Who appointed you the chieftain of whether or not Wil Wheaton talks to his abusive family, or whether or not I talk to mine? Who the hell do you think you are?

I took a few days to look into this, and I am not obligated to keep in touch with my abusive relatives. No one is obligated to maintain any relationship they don't want to have just to stay within the realm of what Grizzlor can wrap his head around, not anyone, not me, and certainly not Wil Wheaton.

It is beyond me why you have simply decided, because you don't like Wil Wheaton, that he could not possibly have been abused as a child. It is outrageous that as far as you are concerned, the only abuse a child can suffer is sexual abuse, and that any other parental abuse is not really abuse and that survivors shouldn't speak about it or cease contact with their abuser because you can't wrap your head around it.

Grizzlor, you declaring that only sexual abuse is real abuse is misinformation on the same level as providing public health misinformation that masks don't work and vaccines don't work.

Those are lies that can harm others because they encourage people not to protect their rights, to tolerate assault and abuse, and to not safeguard their own well-being. It has no place on any internet forum that has any concern for truth.

It's one thing for you to ignorantly brag about not liking LOWER DECKS (when you hadn't watched it) and PRODIGY (when you haven't watched it), or to ignorantly claim that radioplays are a substitute for TV, or to ignorantly declare that Marvel would make more money from movies if they sold all their movie rights to Sony and FOX so that Sony and FOX could make all the movies and the money from the movies (think about it). That's harmless in itself.

And it was even relatively harmless when you ignorantly claimed that only NIOSH-approved N95 masks were protective (when electrostatic filtration is not exclusive to N95 masks) because you were recommending excellent masks even if you were ignorantly dismissing other masks. But now your ignorant attitude has turned to dismissing the facts of child abuse and public health which are real and serious situations.

Your misinformation regarding child abuse is not acceptable. I will be editing your post to add my apologies to anyone who has to witness your appalling conduct and increasingly deranged behaviour here.

Maybe you should stick to posting your celebrity photos and attacking STAR TREK shows you haven't watched.

I am sick at home and watched the VENOM movie, which I didn't see when it first released in 2018. It made no sense to me: Venom is an evil version of Spider-Man. How are you supposed to do Venom without Spider-Man?

But I liked this movie. I was grudgingly impressed by how actor Tom Hardy's idiosyncratic twitchiness turns Eddie Brock into a struggling, frantic, moral, reckless journalist. I was grudgingly appreciative of how Venom is presented as an alien parasite from a horror movie whose bodily possession and eventual symbiosis with Eddie is played for terror and amusement. I was grudgingly admiring of how the Venom concept was reconfigured from dark mirror image of Spider-Man to a horror monster who falls in love with humanity and becomes a superhero. I was grudgingly entertained by the insane action sequences where Venom engages in chases and battles and drags Eddie along like a puppet.

Tom Hardy is a brilliant actor and director Ruben Fleischer did an impressive job at reimagining Venom as a copyright that had to function without Spider-Man. I still don't understand what Sony is playing, creating a Spider-Man cinematic universe with his villains and supporting cast (VENOM, MORBIUS, KRAVEN, MADAME WEB), but... VENOM is a fun movie. Maybe it doesn't matter how tired or fragmented a copyright is so long as it's given to talents who really embrace the material?

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Grizzlor, your post is unacceptable. It's one thing to have a negative opinion about a public figure, although it's beyond me why your own family relationships would have any bearing whatsoever on how Wil Wheaton relates to his. But your misinformation on masks and vaccination will not be tolerated.

Masks with electrostatic filtering and a good seal are effective in filtering viral particles from inhalation. It's a technology that's existed since 1907 and is used in surgical masks, KN95 masks, N95 masks and KF94 masks. To claim otherwise is lying, deceitful, fraudulent misinformation. This will not be allowed here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrost … ecipitator

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-car … -work-best

mRNA vaccines are effective in mitigating infection, lessening symptoms and preventing hospitalization and death by introducing messenger ribonucleic acid that corresponds to a protein in the outer membrane of a virus, teaching the human immune system to recognize the presence of that virus and create an antibody response. Each new mRNA vaccine has been retailored to more recent mutations of COVID-19.

Flu shots in 2023 use deactivated or weakened versions of circulating flu viruses to train the immune system to develop antibodies as well. They These vaccines are also effective at mitigating severity, hospitalization and death.

Furthermore, to call the 2023 COVID vaccines a "booster" is severely misinformed; a booster is to increase existing immunity. The updated COVID-vaccine for newer variants is effectively a new COVID vaccine, much in the same way a flu shot each year is not a "booster" on the previous year.

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/unders … avaccines/

https://www.nfid.org/news-updates/media … 24-season/

It's one thing to say the pandemic wasn't well-managed, to disagree with mask mandates and vaccine mandates and lockdowns, to say that viruses are inevitable, to say that you yourself no longer mask and get vaccinations. Those are about your own conduct and your own opinion. But flat out misinformation will not be tolerated. Consider this a moderator warning.

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I should note: despite my masking with a KF94 in public and outside my private office at work, installing a HEPA air purifier in my private office, bringing a battery powered air purifier to restaurants, and getting a flu shot every year (along with two COVID vaccines every year), I still caught a cold a few weeks ago and still have a lingering post-viral cough. But it is my first cold in three years.

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Kamala trying to do a Nick Fury impression with Kate Bishop was pretty funny. HAWKEYE was a joyfully hilarious TV show, and I hope THE MARVELS bombing at box office doesn't mean we won't get YOUNG AVENGERS with Kate and Kamala and Cassie Lang from ANT MAN and Harley from IRON MAN III and Billy and Tommy (Wanda's kids from WANDAVISION).

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Monica ends up in the FOX X-MEN universe with Kelsey Grammer on a break from FRASIER reprising his role as Beast. DEADPOOL will feature Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.

What is Kevin Feige planning?

Grizzlor wrote on STAR TREK: PRODIGY:
Mehhh

It's odd that you have such disdain for projects that you, by your own admission, haven't watched.

I myself was not keen on watching PRODIGY because... I didn't want to watch it if it were going to get cut off in mid-storyline by Paramount Plus writing it off. I'll watch it now that Netflix will stream it.

I responded to the mask comments in the political thread:
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 908#p14908

Grizzlor wrote:

... Wil Wheaton.  Forever, he was one of the biggest grouches at conventions, and had a 100% NO TOUCHING policy.  He's parlayed his warped hatred towards his immediate family into his shtick... Honestly, I had to begrudgingly force myself through the Trek post-show's that he's hosted, as I'm sure most of his old co-stars have as well, with him there.  He's not exactly part of that "family."

I don't doubt that Wheaton has done something to enrage you at least once in person. And it's perfectly fine to find Wheaton's screen presence and persona irksome. However:

I don't think you can project your own distaste for Wheaton onto his castmates unless you actually have some quotes or social media posts or anything beyond you assuming your dislike of Wheaton is universal to all.

Wil Wheaton -- or anyone, for that matter -- has the right to say he doesn't want strangers touching him.

Wheaton has made accusations towards his mother and father of abuse and labour exploitation: that they forced him to act, took all of his earnings and co-opted all of his residuals. Given that Wheaton was selling Wesley action figures to avoid foreclosure despite STAR TREK residuals likely to have paid him six figures annually, well after the show was cancelled, just on the seasons he worked the show, this is clearly true. I have a summary of Wheaton's claims here:
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 149#p13149

Wheaton's claims are not only extremely serious, they are extremely common: child actors are frequently used as the family living by parents or managers or accountants who use the children, steal their earnings, and gaslight the kids into thinking that it's correct and appropriate. Other survivors of such exploitation of child labour include Danielle Harris, Natanya Ross, Macaulay Culkin, Jennette McCurdy, Shirley Temple, Ariel Winter and plenty of names big and small, some of whom have signed autographs and taken pictures for you.

Wil Wheaton has every right to use his minor celebrity platform to share his trauma and grief with his fans.

Wil Wheaton may have blown his nose into your Jerry O'Connell photos and burned your Kari Wuhrer pictures and stolen your dog and drank your last ginger ale and snapped John Rhys-Davies' walking stick and stolen Sabrina Lloyd's paintbrushes and told Cleavant Derricks that he can't sing. That could all be true and Wheaton would still be a victim of exploitation from his parents.

The denial that his mother issued to the press was nonsensical, claiming that she and Wheaton had always been close (which is obviously not true since he's accusing her of stealing all of his residuals).

Wheaton may be a jerk. I've never met him, Grizzlor clearly has.

But even if Grizzlor is right, Wheaton would still be a jerk who was squeezed and robbed by his mother and father, who has the right to not be touched, who has the right to tell his story. And Grizzlor would still have every right to dislike him.

The opening of THE MARVELS with Kamala was pretty endearing to fans of her show. I concede that there aren't that many fans of Kamala's show.

This is an interesting article on how Marvel's fans have gotten older, and the current generation of potential superhero fans don't really want to go to the cineplex:
https://www.salon.com/2023/11/17/the-ma … -audience/

Grizzlor wrote:

I know the guy was a jerk, but I have no reason to have any interest in a Buffy project not guided by Joss Whedon.  It was his concept, and should end with him.

I can respect that. There are certain properties I feel should only be produced by their original creators or not at all. I have zero interest in a SCOTT PILGRIM project that isn't led by Bryan Lee O'Malley. I'm not going to watch the Netflix adaptation of AVATAR: THE LAST AIRBENDER because creators Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko aren't involved. I would never want more CALVIN AND HOBBES without Bill Watterson.

However, I would simply note that BUFFY was a set of feminist themes written within a house style and many, many, many writers adopted this house style and made it their own. David Fury had a more fast-paced approach than Whedon, Ben Edlund was more horrific, Jane Espenson was more comedic, Marti Noxon was more melodramatic and Jeffrey Bell was more earnest, and a lot of writers could do a great job with the BUFFY property and not abuse or harrass anyone while doing it. But regardless, there is nothing wrong with not being interested in a BUFFY project that isn't coming from BUFFY's creator.

However however... a thread about reboots is probably going to feature properties that are being shepherded by people who didn't originally create said properties.

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From the STAR TREK thread:
https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 901#p14901

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

It's kinda idiotic to me why people would question wearing a mask in a crowd at a hockey game. 

It's not like he was wearing it outdoors.  Some people don't care if they don't get sick but some people do.  If you do, then the time to still mask is in a large crowd.

I've heard of people getting sick after attending sporting events.  I don't know really to what degree sporting events are places where transmission would be high because arenas/domes have huge ceilings and stadiums are open air.  They are not small enclosed spaces.  But if you are sitting next to the wrong person for 2 hours, well that might be an issue.

Anyway, it's weird that will wheaton had to explain himself but I do give him credit for the grace at which he answered this when the conversation shouldn't still be having to be had.  And that's not to say one shouldn't respect those who do the opposite. Live and let live, make choices right for you.  Anyway, I admire the way Wheaton handled this.  He's a good guy.

Wil Wheaton's blog entry on masking is here:
https://wilwheaton.net/2023/11/mind-you … be-a-dick/

While outdoor transmission risk is negligible, a mask reduces it to non-existent. But even then, I don't see why anyone needs to take issue with anyone else's headwear.

Grizzlor wrote:

COVID baloney.  It's just simply Wil Wheaton.  Forever, he was one of the biggest grouches at conventions, and had a 100% NO TOUCHING policy.  He's parlayed his warped hatred towards his immediate family into his shtick.  I could 1000% imagine Wil Wheaton not only doing the (now completely overdone) virtue signaled masking, but then never missing an opportunity to be Mr. Outrage and furthering his own cause, "grace" or otherwise.  Honestly, I had to begrudgingly force myself through the Trek post-show's that he's hosted, as I'm sure most of his old co-stars have as well, with him there.  He's not exactly part of that "family."

I'm finding some of this baffling. I recognize that Wil Wheaton has offended you due to his behaviour at fan gatherings. You're someone who pays for the chance to meet actors, and I take it that Wheaton has failed to give you a good experience on at least one occasion. I have never met Wheaton and don't know what he's like in person, I've only read his books, and I've recently been informed that the writer is not their writing. I am sorry that you had a bad experience with Wheaton.

However, I don't see why you, someone who regularly declared the supremacy of N95s over all other masks, would take issue with a minor-league celebrity answering a question on his blog, explaining why he wears masks at indoor gatherings, and using his platform and near-non-existent fame to normalize wearing masks at public events to ward off illness. Note that the mask he was wearing, which looks to me like a KF94, is what I myself wear.

The thing about KF94 and KN95 masks: they block particles going in and out, unlike a surgical which only blocks particles going out. When you wear a surgical mask, you need everyone else to wear one too or you might as well not wear it at all. When you wear a KF94 or a KN95, you don't need anyone else around you to wear one; the protection is going both ways. To wear one of these masks is to tell everyone around you that your measures are for you and sufficient for you.

I'll respond to the other stuff in the STAR TREK thread when the Pfizer isn't hitting me as hard, but if you dislike Wil Wheaton, I am absolutely sure he did something to incur your wrath.

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After six doses of Moderna, I have received one dose of Pfizer. The pharmacy was out of Moderna.

I'm told that due to lower mRNA content, the side effects will be lower, but the immune system will still learn how to identify the COVID virus and mount a defense.

Bit late, but PRODIGY has been picked up by Netflix which will stream the first season and then, in 2024, the second season.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv … 235615236/

THE MARVELS ensures that audiences who haven't seen WANDAVISION and MS. MARVEL won't be confused by who Monica and Kamala are. But THE MARVELS is very much dependent on the affection and familiarity that was established with Monica and Kamala in the Disney+ shows. I do not think the movie re-establishes Monica and Kamala to the point where audiences who don't know Monica and Kamala will appreciate how they're finally having a slumber party in space with Carol. I think THE MARVELS is too short and lacks that decompressed time needed to really feel close to Monica and Kamala unless you already felt close to them from watching their multi-episode TV show.

I didn't give anyway any big spoilers in my review, just plot mechanics and SECRET INVASION issues.

Why isn't THE MARVELS financially successful? I think there are unfortunately a number of creative and marketing factors at play.

Well, there may have been too long a time gap between the film and its Disney+ tie-ins. The characters of Monica Rambeau and Kamala Khan made their full debuts in Disney+ TV shows. Monica was in CAPTAIN MARVEL as a child, but the adult incarnation only appeared in WANDAVISION. Kamala Khan was first onscreen in MS. MARVEL. WANDAVISION was two years ago and didn't lead into THE MARVELS. MS. MARVEL ran from June 6 - July 13 in 2022 and while it ended with a lead-in to THE MARVELS, it was over a year in the past when THE MARVELS premiered.

THE MARVELS may have been poisoned by forced synergy. Disney+ shows have a smaller audience than the mainstream moviegoing public. ENDGAME sold over 35 million individual tickets, LOKI reportedly streamed to 2.5 million households in its first five days, and MS. MARVEL reportedly streamed to 780,000 viewers in its first five days. THE MARVELS, in presenting itself as a movie with Monica, Kamala and Carol, may have given the impression that viewers who hadn't watched WANDAVISION and MS. MARVEL would have no interest in THE MARVELS.

Some have claimed that Disney has diluted the Marvel brand with Disney+ Marvel shows. They point out: ENDGAME was a huge release at a time when Marvel movies were all cinematic events of cultural significance. ENDGAME was one of three Marvel Studios releases in 2019. Marvel Studios 'only' released four movies in 2021, three in 2022 and another three in 2023. But from 2021 - 2023, Marvel released nine TV shows on Disney+. The argument is that WANDAVISION, LOKI, HAWKEYE and SECRET INVASION, by featuring lead Avengers characters from the films, made the films less special; films no longer seem like an event if their characters appear in view-on-demand shows.

I'm not entirely sure I'm convinced of this as these shows were fairly short, ranging from 6 - 9 episodes. But Kevin Feige might feel that the shows dilute the brand. Judging from the MCU: THE REIGN OF MARVEL STUDIOS book, Feige did not want the MCU on TV back in the days of AGENTS OF SHIELD and was very much pressured by Disney CEO Bob Chapek to produce TV for Disney+.

Speaking on a marketing level, THE MARVELS was definitely damaged by actor's strike. Brie Larson, Iman Vellani and Teyonah Parris couldn't make public appearances to promote Carol, Kamala and Monica. They couldn't appear in public showing off their sisterly bond on talk shows and at conventions; they couldn't post social media videos of the three of them hanging out as friends who adore each other; they couldn't show off the 50 megawatt chemistry of their onscreen connection.

But also on a marketing level, I think THE MARVELS was hurt by how Marvel never really gave Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers, a distinct and vivid personality that defined her in the cultural consciousness, and this is despite CAPTAIN MARVEL earning 1.131 billion at box office.

Carol Danvers suffers from an undefined personality. Slider_Quinn21 once said of Supergirl on the CW SUPERGIRL TV show: Kara Danvers (no relation) was defined by being 'nice'; there was nothing else to her character. I would argue that Kara was defined by being 'superhumanly nice' to the point where it was a legitimate superpower. Slider_Quinn21 was sort of right in that compared to the tormented warrior Oliver Queen and the neurotically hurried Barry Allen, the Kara character was far less distinct.

However, not every character needs to be written as a hypercomplex contradiction. Kara was a very simple, straightforward character who was defined by actress Melissa Benoist bringing charm, liveliness, humour and appeal to the role, much like Marty McFly having no characterization in BACK TO THE FUTURE but made dynamic through Michael J. Fox's comic timing and hilarious reactions to absurdity.

Marvel attempted something very much like the Supergirl template with Carol Danvers. Carol has amnesia and is defined by actress Brie Larson having an subtly militaristic bearing, an affable and lightweight charm that gives way to severity and forcefulness if pushed. The problem: SUPERGIRL, a weekly TV show, had plenty of screentime to let Melissa Benoist show Kara in everyday life and render her character with physical comedy and emotionality.

CAPTAIN MARVEL was a two hour movie, THE MARVELS is a 105 minute movie, and these feature films are not designed to let the audience spend an extended and regular amount of time with Brie Larson's body language, mannerisms, expressions and reactions. Where SUPERGIRL could let Melissa Benoist spend 30 minutes of the premiere being Kara Danvers and about 12 being Supergirl and still get the audience back next week, CAPTAIN MARVEL was juggling the Kree, the Skrulls, Carol's amnesia, Carol's lost identity -- so that by the time Carol gets something of her identity back, the movie was nearly over. Unlike, say, WONDER WOMAN, the CAPTAIN MARVEL movie did not present Carol Danvers with a strong identity or a distinct sense of what she respresents and what she stands for.

When WONDER WOMAN ended, everyone had a very clear sense of who Diana was: Diana is a warrior peacekeeper who loves the world and everything in it except for war. Diana lives for bringing peace into crisis. But who is Carol? What does she stand for?

CAPTAIN MARVEL fashioned her as a nearly empty vessel for Brie Larson's screen presence, and while Brie Larson is a magnetic, warmly endearing person, the amnesiac character she played meant she was limited in what she could do. WONDER WOMAN ended with Diana having endeared herself to the audience: she was the superhero who would not only save you but see the best in you and hug you. CAPTAIN MARVEL left Carol still rather blank, appreciated not for her vague personality but for how she would play a critical role in ENDGAME.

CAPTAIN MARVEL has been heralded as a smash hit because of its feminism and inspiring roles for women. It was wonderfully feminist and inspiring... but it also had a poor sense of geography in its action sequences, an overstuffed plot that limited Brie Larson's performance, a certain blandness in its overall direction.

I suspect that while the women-forward approach was good marketing for CAPTAIN MARVEL, it was successful at box office because CAPTAIN MARVEL was viewed as a key prequel to how ENDGAME would wrap up, so viewers enthralled by INFINITY WAR stirred viewers to watch CAPTAIN MARVEL, eager to see what seeds it would plant for resolving ENDGAME.

THE MARVELS doesn't have that advantage as critical viewing before an ENDGAME-level release (not that many movies do).

Ultimately, the success of CAPTAIN MARVEL may have been a bit of a mirage when it comes to Carol Danvers. Neither CAPTAIN MARVEL nor ENDGAME made Carol as personable and vivid as, say, Robert Downey Jr. in IRON MAN. Neither CAPTAIN MARVEL nor ENDGAME made Carol as dynamic and fun as Paul Rudd in ANT MAN or Chris Pratt in GUARDIANS.
Brie Larson is perfectly capable of being as endearing as Downey Jr. and Rudd and Pratt -- but the amnesiac character she was saddled with didn't allow her to make full use of her talents. And the marketing department had no ability to market Carol, Kamala and Monica because Larson, Vellani and Parris were on strike, no way to show the moviegoing public the fun, women-friendly, sisterly bond of these three characters with these three performers.

In addition, the film seems to have been edited to be as fast paced as possible. While Carol, Kamala and Monica have excellent chemistry throughout, there is a certain minimalism to the amount of screentime they get to just hang out and be; at one point, their interactions are compressed into a training montage. The movie survives it, but this lack of decompressed time with the characters also deprived the film and its marketing of more personal time with the characters.

As a result, there was not a huge audience hammering on the cineplex doors. There was only a very limited number of people eager to see THE MARVELS, eager to spend more time with Carol. There was only a very small audience who'd watched WANDAVISION and MS. MARVEL, who'd enjoyed Monica and Kamala, who wanted to see them on the big screen. There were only a few who were eager to join Carol Danvers on her cosmic sleepover adventure with Kamala and Monica.

Marvel movies have reached success with broad, mainstream audiences, but Carol's blandness and THE MARVELS being the culmination of two small screen shows meant it was making its audience narrower instead of wider.

As someone who loved Monica in WANDAVISION and adored Kamala in MS. MARVEL, I was so happy to see them with Carol in THE MARVELS. As someone for whom Brie Larson's acting strengths excuses any scripting weaknesses, I was delighted to see Carol back and with Monica and Kamala. But... I'm just one viewer. And right now, I can't imagine what someone who hadn't seen WANDAVISION and MS. MARVEL made of THE MARVELS. I have to think they would have been confused by who Monica and Kamala were, and would have been sufficiently confused that they would have stayed away.

It may have been better to just do CAPTAIN MARVEL II as Carol's story instead of tying it into two TV shows with a smaller audience than a mainstream superhero action film.

Disclaimer: I really enjoyed THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER and ANT MAN: QUANTUMANIA, so my sense of quality may not be shared by many.

Grizzlor wrote:

Secret Invasion was so bad, Bob Iger has to be dumbfounded. The Marvels is going to follow right up along that path of trash.

I just got home from THE MARVELS (CAPTAIN MARVEL II) in IMAX. It's very clear that the team making THE MARVELS had no idea what SECRET INVASION was doing and the team making SECRET INVASION had no idea what THE MARVELS was doing (or what SECRET INVASION was doing).

THE MARVELS is taking a critical dismissal and looks like a box office failure. I really enjoyed it. It has all the strengths of Marvel movies and all the weaknesses of Marvel movies, so it ends up being enjoyable, crisply directed, effectively-edited, well-paced, hilariously performed, satisfyingly executed -- but it misses out on a number of opportunities for greater depth and meaning.

THE MARVELS is a stunningly beautiful movie. There are deeply stirring shots of Carol Danvers and Monica Rambeau in space amidst the stars, and the composition and lighting are captivating. There is a distinct visual language and geography to all the character and action scenes in stark contrast to how CAPTAIN MARVEL was oddly indistinct under Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck. THE MARVELS director Nia DaCosta is clearly a more skillful visual stylist.

The story is adequate and borderline irrelevant. The Kree are attacking the universe; the Marvels have to stop them. The plot is treated as little more than a framework to get these women in the same spaceship.

There is a tremendous sense of energy in presenting a film about found sisters: Carol Danvers, Monica Rambeau and Kamala Khan are women with the same profession who find themselves thrown together in a cosmic crisis. Carol's cool under fire matches well wtih Monica's hyperanalytical sense of strategy and Kamala's excitable enthusiasm offers terrific comic relief. The film has a really funny recurring gag where Carol and Monica can fly, but Kamala can't.

The sequence of Carol, Monica and Kamala skipping and dancing and balancing is the movie. The action sequences do a spectacular job  of maintaining the chemistry and relationships between these three spectacular women. At 105 minutes, THE MARVELS is a snappy, smooth ride from start to finish (at least for me.)

The script is treated as an irrelevance, and as a result, THE MARVELS unfortunately fails to capitalize on some potential arcs. I'm not sure if Feige's attitude of fixing things in post is at play, but there are a number of lapses.

We establish that Carol still hasn't regained all of her human memories. The film plays up how Carol is a bit of a blank slate: she's known as the Annihilator to the Kree and a beloved princess on the planet Aladna and as a failure to the Skrulls; Carol grudgingly tolerates these identities without ever truly embracing any of them, pointing to her own uncertainty and blankness of self. This never reaches any kind of climax or resolution in the film. Carol is defined by Brie Larson's affable, pleasant take on a military woman.

There's no discussion of how Monica Rambeau was a little girl in CAPTAIN MARVEL and an adult in THE MARVELS while Carol has barely aged; it's not a plothole since Carol ages slower than humans with her powers, but it's a visual element that the film doesn't seize upon.

The lead villainess has a sequence where the plot sets up the need for her to set aside her differences with the Marvels to save her world; there seems to be an odd reshoot that abruptly shuts down this potentially complex direction and aim for something far simpler.

There are a number of very awkwardly patched story gaps. The planet Aladna is left in dire peril when the Marvels are abruptly ripped out of the situation; the film seems to largely neglect following up and there's a hurried insert shot later with two lines to wrap up the plot point. The movie has Carol, Monica and Kamala's powers going haywire (which brings them together); the climax has their powers stabilized with a line of exposition without any real explanation (or I missed it).

And then there's THE MARVELS' wider place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. SECRET INVASION is a serious problem. THE MARVELS seems to act as though SECRET INVASION doesn't exist and gives me the sense that no one working on THE MARVELS knew anything about SECRET INVASION.

SECRET INVASION ended with the President of the United States declaring all aliens to be enemies of the state, with human race now murderously targeting Skrulls suspected or genuine, malevolent or innocent, and Nick Fury... doing nothing to address the situation and heading off into space to negotiate a Kree/Skrull peace treaty. On Earth, the Super Skrull, G'iah, negotiated an agreement with MI6 agent Sonya Falsworth to try to stop the Skrull killings at which point this miniseries ended.

THE MARVELS makes no reference to the human-perpetrated murder spree on suspected Skrulls. There's a reference to a Kree-Skrull peace treaty in place. Nick Fury, in orbit above Earth, seems unconcerned about any Skrull genocide on Earth. Skrulls are said to have multiple refugee colonies throughout the universe and are scattered across the stars. SECRET INVASION noted that Nick Fury promised the Skrull refugees a new homeworld and inexplicably never explained why Fury failed to come through aside from a shapeshifter impersonating Fury claiming that there was no homeworld to be found, and SECRET INVASION didn't confirm or deny if the impersonator should be taken seriously.

But THE MARVELS undermines that as well: Carol Danvers reaches out to the Asgardians to take the displaced Skrull refugees "somewhere safe", indicating that the Rainbow Bridge offered a ready means of evacuation and relocation for the Skrulls. Carol makes no reference to an ongoing Skrull genocide on Earth, nor does she mention Talos (who died in SECRET INVASION and is simply not referred to in THE MARVELS).

The entire plot of SECRET INVASION is made nonsensical by THE MARVELS showing Carol being concerned for the Skrulls and having easy access to securing a new home for them. SECRET INVASION in turn undermines THE MARVELS; Carol Danvers being in a lighthearted space adventure is hideous when Skrulls are being targeted for death on Earth and Carol can easily evacuate them. SECRET INVASION's depiction of Nick Fury as an incompetent blunderer also makes his steady competence in THE MARVELS difficult to accept. We'll simply have to assume that G'iah and Sonya Falsworth succeeded in preventing the genocide since Carol isn't worried about it and never brings it up.

It's bizarre: the whole point of the Disney+ shows was that they would have closer continuity with the movies, but here, we have SECRET INVASION and THE MARVELS both addressing Skrulls and Nick Fury... and they don't match up at all. The confusion here would explain a lot of Samuel L. Jackson's befuddled, adrift performance in SECRET INVASION.

I'll contemplate why THE MARVELS is bombing at box office tomorrow. It probably isn't due to the quality of the film itself since barely anyone is even trying to see it in the first place and the word of mouth isn't that bad.

I've been reading MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios, an unauthorized history of Kevin Feige's Marvel Cinematic Universe by journalists Joanna Robinson, Dave Gonzales and Gavin Edwards. It starts with Marvel in bankruptcy and Feige being an assistant on the X-Men movie series. It provides an in-depth journey for Feige and Marvel from Iron Man to The Falcon & The Winter Solder and Wandavision at which point, the journalists have had fewer years to interview the participants and it gets quite vague. But some takeaways for the moment:

The ABC, Hulu and Netflix shows are addressed one chapter of this 30 chapter volume. The dismissiveness is telling. Basically, the Marvel CEO at the time, Isaac Perlmutter, set up a Marvel TV division within Marvel Entertainment that was separate from the Marvel Studios film division. Feige protested the MCU becoming weekly episodic TV instead of massive feature film events.

But Perlmutter wanted TV ad revenue profits and went ahead with the TV division despite Feige's concerns. Perlmutter had Marvel Studios' hire, Joss Whedon, commissioned to produce Agents of SHIELD. Feige protested his Avengers II director being distracted by TV and Perlmutter blocked from Feige from any TV involvement.

Perlmutter situated the Marvel TV offices far from Marvel Studios, and forced Marvel Studios to grant access to Jaimie Alexander (Sif), footage from The Winter Soldier, Samuel L. Jackson, and the Age of Ultron tie-in. But after Perlmutter was removed from authority over Feige, Perlmutter couldn't force anymore crossovers and Marvel Studios refused to tie in with the Netflix shows.

There also seems to be some sort of conflict between Joss Whedon and Kevin Feige that has made Feige unwilling to use Whedon's characters on Agents of SHIELD. It may be that Whedon agreeing to do a TV show was viewed as a betrayal of Marvel Studios or some other conflict tied into Whedon being revealed as an abusive boss, but Feige is noticeably steering clear of any of Whedon's original creations.

Perlmutter was cited as having a strong hand in the Marvel Creative Committee that oversaw and controlled the MCU films from Iron Man to Iron Man III. The Creative Committee was infamous for blocking female-led films and prominent female superheroes or supervillains, and it was peculiar, because that committee included comic book talents like Brian Michael Bendis and Joe Quesada who are not, to my knowledge, misogynists.

The book uncovers how Perlmutter was using the Committee to block any characters and films that Perlmutter didn't believe would lead to toy sales, and Perlmutter did not believe that female action figures sold well enough to justify female superhuman characters or female leads, which is why the Committee was thrown out of Marvel Studios along with Perlmutter. This seems to have indirectly led to Joe Quesada and Brian Michael Bendis both leaving Marvel, having been dismissed from any involvement (and pay) in the feature films.

The film notes that Feige as a producer tends to have an attitude: "We'll fix it in post." Iron Man was filmed without a completed script, with special effects designers and directors and actors feeling out the story during filming and writers drafting scenes on the day they were shot, and then Feige would assemble the film in the edit bay and rework things with dialogue recording and digital alterations and limited reshoots.

Feige's improvisational inventiveness and flair for creativity crashed hard on Iron Man II, a film made in less time than Iron Man and therefore with less time to refine and rework. This approach yielded, on the whole, good and often great results from Thor straight through to Endgame. However, a shift in leadership at Disney when Bob Chapek took over, has seen Feige severely overstretched. Chapek wanted more movies more often and more shows more constantly. This saw Feige working not only on movies but also Disney+ shows; Feige was now expected to weigh in on comic books and merchandising and theme parks and whatnot.

The history also points out: at numerous points, Feige had some vital creative partners, but due to circumstances outside Feige's control, many have slipped away. Joss Whedon was to be a key collaborator in the MCU, but he left and seems to have been encouraged to stay away. James Gunn was expected to become a vital part of the MCU films, but then Gunn was fired off of Guardians of the Galaxy III. Despite being re-hired to the film, Gunn was not available to be re-hired in his Marvel producership. Victoria Alonso, a vital producer overseeing effects production, was abruptly terminated for reasons unclear. The excellent comic book writers on the Creative Committee were thrown out with Perlmutter.

Anthony and Joe Russo were alienated from Marvel and Disney due to Disney trying to scam Scarlett Johansson out of her pay. Feige is having to shoulder all these burdens from all these departures, and it's not easy to find successors compatible with Feige's approach. The book notes that the third Ant Man and the fourth Thor features were regarded as middling-to-poor, and it all stems from Feige's improvisational assembly tactics becoming a liability when Feige's team is depleted.

The book says that Kevin Feige is wonderful, but there are only 24 hours in a day, and there are simply too many movies, shows, comics and rides for one person to handle. The book declares that while Kevin can raise the quality of any project he touches, there are now too many movies and shows and that there is only so much Kevin to go around. The book ends on a somewhat pessimistic note, unsure if Feige is coming to the end of his path with Marvel... unless Feige is able to find new collaborators or if Feige willing to reinvent the way he works or if Feige manages to once again achieve the run of success he had from Iron Man to Endgame.

I'm not sure how much of that I agree or disagree with, but it's an interesting and informed perspective.

One thing that jumped out at me: the book reports that Samuel L. Jackson was angry during the filming of Avengers that Whedon had written scenes that called for Jackson to run. He was similarly displeased on Captain Marvel for having to run. He was relieved that his action sequence in The Winter Soldier involved sitting in a car. The book points out: Jackson was 60 in Iron Man, 65 in Avengers, and 74 years old in Secret Invasion.

It occurs to me that this could have been a huge problem in trying to present Nick Fury as an action hero lead in Secret Invasion or in most Marvel movies, which may be why Jackson's roles were always brief and aloof, and why making him an action lead in Secret Invasion was less than successful.

I guess... I never realized that Samuel L. Jackson was anything but ageless, probably due to movie magic.

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TF wrote about Governor Tate Reeves:

TemporalFlux wrote:

So this little demonic s.o.b. won, and I’m surely about to lose my job because of it

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2023-e … or-results

TemporalFlux wrote:

He wants to restructure the Department of Public Safety and centralize.  I would need to commute two and a half hours a day (five hours total) or move.  All this so that he could save nickels and dimes in relation to the budget (over 700 million of our state’s revenue wasn’t even spent last year).

But the real motivation is that he has some irrational hatred for the department.  He wants to destroy it and re-make it so that it’s unrecognizable and a footnote in history.

He’s been leading up to all of this for over two years.  They’ve been making it so hard that people quit and then not hiring people to replace them which makes it harder and makes more people quit, etc.  He’s just been scared to pull the final trigger on the killing blow until the election was over.

I'm very sorry to hear this, Temporal Flux. I haven't been posting daily as is my wont because I didn't feel it appropriate to talk about culture and such without conveying my sympathies first. Feel free to email me if you want me to handle the Sliders.tv hosting bill from now on.

I have read Governor Tate Reeves' Wikipedia entry and I had to triple-check to make sure this wasn't the Wiki entry for a fictional supervillain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tate_Reeves

I am angry and upset that Temporal Flux's employment is in danger due to Reeves' re-election. TF has never gone into detail about his job in public, so I won't touch on it here, but his work for the Mississippi Department of Public Safety is vital, critical and lifesaving. I have gone through a training program for TF's job and applied to work that job and I washed out so badly that my respect for TF quadrupled.

Reeves is a nutjob who told people to combat COVID-19 with prayer rather than masks, held mass gatherings during the height of the pandemic, misappropriated welfare funds, supported presidential election fraud, denied the existence of systemic racism, and now he's going after Temporal Flux.

As someone who failed to enter TF's profession (and failed so hard people still laugh about it), I'm not equipped to offer any professional advice.

However, everyone on Sliders.tv knows: Temporal Flux is a dynamic and brilliant mind, a fountain of information, a relentlessly analytical mind that predicts what's coming long before anyone else has noticed it on the horizon. This includes the threat of inflation and cryptocurrency being a scam. (Thanks to Temporal Flux, I never bought any of Felicia Day's crypto coin even though I wanted to support her.)

Everyone who reads TF's posts can tell that he's thoughtful, clever, resourceful, reasonable, and an asset to any friend group, any team, any organization, any endeavour, any enterprise, any mission. Everyone who's ever talked to TF has walked away smarter and better whether they knew it or not.

I hate Tate Reeves more than I ever hated David Peckinpah.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan  wrote:

Should historical archival footage be enchanced via A.I. like topaz so we can more vividly re-witness the events in a more powerful way, to more viscerally see the images, or does the algorithms ultimately insert false images into the history books if it becomes what is used moving forward.  The inserted pixels etc become fact.

This is a question with upgrading even tv shows with color changes, pixels, etc but it becomes even more salient with historical archival.

I'm glad you brought this up. This is something I've been contemplating with regards to SLIDERS.

Jim_Hall wrote:

If it is enhanced I think it should be clearly notated for the viewer for historical moments. Similarly like I told ireactions there should be an option to toggle things on and off. But I don't think any studio would ever put in that effort especially if the content isn't popular.

I personally don't feel Topaz is really adding anything that isn't originally there. I don't think Jim_Hall feels the same way, and that's very reasonable.

Jim_Hall and I discussed upscaling as pertaining to facial enhancement on still images. That's a slightly different situation: we were using AI to sharpen up the faces on old SLIDERS publicity shots that Jim_Hall had bought and scanned and restored with painstaking effort and care.

Topaz Gigapixel rebuilds faces well, but they often look sharper than the rest of the photo. There was often a razor-sharp face on a blurrier neck with fuzzy hair and clothes. We found that for the most part, we had to erase most of the facial enhancements and kept only a small amount of sharpened facial elements, and it was often subtle to the point where we might as well have not done it. In one area where we differed: I preferred to keep the AI facially-upscaled eyes and mouths. Jim_Hall preferred to not even have that.

I deferred to Jim_Hall entirely on this as the photos were for his site and they were his photo scans.

But to me, Topaz is 'just' stretching the images, albeit in a highly intricate and detailed way that uses different methods for different image elements, and machine learning is clearly more reliable on rebuilding faces in photos.

Topaz uses a massive library of algorithmic functions with multiple function sets for specific textures (grass, skin, metal, concrete) and visual elements (eyes, hair) to add new pixels effectively. Ultimately, it's a way to stretch the image to a larger size. It isn't using the same technique for each part of the image, but multiple techniques on each element of the image. It isn't adding new content, just supporting existing content. Sometimes, it fails because Topaz is dependent on grain and SD video often lacks the grain needed for a quality AI upscale.

I don't feel Topaz AI as it exists would -- or even could -- change historical footage via upscaling. It would be stretching it, ableit in a complex and dynamic way.

But what if that changed?

We are at a point where AI can generate images based on text-based prompts. I think AI image generation could ultimately serve to recreate the videotape damaged episodes of SLIDERS, episodes 1.02 - 1.09 of Season 1. As pneumatic and I have noted: the videotape masters for those episodes don't even have an SD level of detail. AI sharpening doesn't work on them because the 240 line videotape format has eliminated all the film grain. Restoration is not possible. One future solution is using AI to engage in frame regeneration.

AI image generation will eventually be able to use images as prompts, and to look at a low resolution image and then generate a closely matching high res copy. One could convert episodes 1.02 - 1.09 into individual frames (24 frames per second) to produce a still image for each frame of the episodes. These stills could conceivably be fed into an AI algorithm to generate an HD image with the same elements and composition and colour, but with extrapolated sharpness and texture to replace what's missing within the low resolution image.

This would not be building on existing pixels to stretch the frame to a larger size like Topaz. Instead, it would be creating a new image that regenerates all the SD elements at HD resolution with AI taking some guesses to fill in an HD level of detail on clothing, hair, skin, props, textures, etc.. These replicated frames could then be reassembled into a video that matches the original audio. This would not be an upscale. This would be a reconstruction.

AI images right now can suffer from looking more like digital illustration than actual photography, but it's improving. Duplicating existing frame images would make it easier to generate photorealism. AI can already receive image input; eventually, it'll be able to generate a new version of the image input at a larger scale.

I wouldn't want studios to create HD versions of SD shows via AI reconstruction, but it might be good for special effects shots and missing film. One of the greatest difficulties in bringing older TV shows to HD: the special effects don't exist on film, but on SD videotape. STAR TREK and STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION had to have all the effects rebuilt for HD. It proved so expensive that most studios today are not rebuilding SD special effects in HD, but upscaling the SD effects shots. Upscaled special effects shots tend to have a fuzziness and lack of crisp definition due to the lower resolution and blur of older generation video effects and computer graphics.

For THE X-FILES in HD, FOX was not able to find a number film reels. Special effects background plates, stock footage and backgrounds were often missing from the film, along with more mundane sequences. While the restoration team rebuilt the effects where they had the film to do so, in some cases, they had to resort to upscaled SD videotape that didn't match the rescanned film around it.

BABYLON 5 and LOIS AND CLARK: THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, while rescanned and reassembled from film, didn't attempt to rebuilt any effects at all. Instead, they used upscaled SD effects shots to save money. This looks okay in BABYLON 5 because those original effects looked like Playstation 2 even when they first aired. But for LOIS AND CLARK, any time Superman speeds or flies or uses heat vision, it goes from blu-ray quality to VHS. I think those are areas where, in the future, missing film and special effects shots could use AI reconstructions generated from SD image inputs.

It would disappoint me if NBCUniversal went the AI upscale and reconstruction route for all episodes of SLIDERS. A studio should rescan the film and rebuild the episodes, and they should limit AI frame reconstruction to effects shots.

But on a fan level -- if NBCUniversal isn't going to remaster SLIDERS, then I think it would be a great fan project to use AI reconstruction on the low-res videotape episodes of Season 1.

It's one thing if someone's personal tastes don't turn towards audio. Some people may not like the medium. Some may have hearing disabilities that make audio inaccessible. But:

Grizzlor wrote:

You couldn't pay me to listen to this Audible crap. They should have at least animated it!

These two sentences are so foundationally and factually flawed that I feel compelled to go through each level individually.

It's regarding one of my very favourite subjects, so this is actually terrific (for me).

Grizzlor wrote:

You couldn't pay me to listen to this Audible crap. They should have at least animated it!

This statement is factually unreasonable in terms of licensing rights. The license to create audioplays based on an intellectual property does not extend to creating animation; that is an entirely separate licensing agreement that would go to an actual animation studio as opposed to an audio drama company like Audible.

Grizzlor wrote:

You couldn't pay me to listen to this Audible crap. They should have at least animated it!

This statement is declaring that audio drama is a low budget substitute for television, a form of TV without pictures. That is and completely false. Audio drama predates television and film; it's a medium that's existed since the 1920s.

Audio drama is not an attempt to do TV without pictures. Audio drama is a medium of its own, existing in the realm of sound to illicit emotion, environment, and imagination.

Radio drama was a means of broadcasting live and recorded stageplay content into homes on a national and eventually international scale. Original radio drama that was written specifically for the audio medium began by 1923. Radio drama evolved into audio drama sold on CD in the 1980s. Radio and audio drama have now developed into modern day podcast fiction and non-fiction with drama, dramatizations, documentaries and news. The only difference between modern podcast drama and modern audio drama: podcast tends to refer to ongoing serieses on a regular schedule. Audio drama implies an individual release.

Seminal works of audio drama include Douglas Adams' genre-defining THE HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY and Orson Welles' adaptation of WAR OF THE WORLDS. Modern podcast dramas and audio dramas of tremendous success include WELCOME TO NIGHT VALE, DIRTY JOHN, THE SANDMAN, LIMETOWN, THE LOVECRAFT INVESTIGATIONS and others. Audio drama is an important and successful medium in which new work and advancement continues to this very day.

Audio drama is a vibrant medium with a long history and a future that will continue no matter how many streaming services rise and fall for one very simple reason: compared to TV and film, audio drama is inexpensive and doesn't take a lot of time to produce.

Grizzlor wrote:

You couldn't pay me to listen to this Audible crap. They should have at least animated it!

This statement conveys, hopefully unintentionally, a marked prejudice and bias against any medium that lacks visual motion, saying that the written and spoken word is not only outside their personal preference, but outside this person's capacity to respect as avenues of fiction. This would dismiss not only audio drama, but prose novels, poetry, comic books, picturebooks, boardgames, and, for that matter, internet message boards.

In actuality, motion is not a requirement for a storytelling format, nor is audio drama deficient or disabled by its lack of moving pictures.

Audio drama uses peformance and sound design to create scale, imagery, emotion, action and interaction. Audio drama is a complex, challenging, compelling, vivid medium with its own strengths, weaknesses, merits, flaws, all of which have to be navigated with skill, talent, knowledge, experience and a passion for storytelling.

Modern day audio drama boasts a cutting edge level of storytelling, creativity and diversity because audio faces significantly fewer barriers to creativity and requires far fewer resources than TV and film while demanding a tremendous level of storytelling skill in using only sound to create characters and situations.

Grizzlor wrote:

You couldn't pay me to listen to this Audible crap. They should have at least animated it!

This statement dismisses the artistic merit of the audio medium. They would be saying audio drama cannot possibly present strong storytelling with skill, craft, or artistic value of any kind. That would be a deeply uninformed statement that would show a high level of literary ignorance.

Audio drama has a long and prestigious history which includes numerous giants of literature from the twentieth century straight through to today: Rod Serling, Dylan Thomas, Samuel Beckett, Harold Pinter, Robert Bolt, Agatha Christie, Isaac Asimov, JRR Tolkien, Neil Gaiman, Seth MacFarlane, Felicia Day and more. Performers include Laurence Olivier, Orson Welles, Leonard Nimoy and other thespian masters.

Most modern franchises including STAR WARS, Superman, Batman, DOCTOR WHO, Sherlock Holmes and more have extensive history in audio drama with audio drama being what kept DOCTOR WHO as a going concern during the lengthy hiatus when the TV show was off the air.

I find it puzzling that anyone would disdain work from Rod Serling, Samuel Beckett, Orson Welles, JRR Tolkien, Douglas Adams, Laurence Olivier, Leonard Nimoy, Neil Gaiman, Seth MacFarlane and Felicia Day on the grounds that it didn't have moving pictures.

Grizzlor wrote:

You couldn't pay me to listen to this Audible crap. They should have at least animated it!

This statement is complaining that an audio drama company (Audible) did not produce an animated feature. They would be saying that an audio project and an animation project require the same time, financial backing and resources. That would be confessing to a severe ignorance of how animation production compares to audio production.

Animation requires enormous levels of personnel for character designs and storyboarding with entire companies outside the US devoted to producing the actual animation, anywhere from 5 to 500 times the budget of an audio drama production. Audio drama requires a recording studio and performers. Anyone who seriously claims that audio drama and animation are on the same production scale is betraying how they are utterly clueless about audio drama and animation.

Grizzlor wrote:

You couldn't pay me to listen to this Audible crap. They should have at least animated it!

This statement is declaring that an audio drama company should be expected to create animation. That would be demonstrating a stunning level of overgeneralization in assuming that one form of media production is the same as any other form of media production.

Anyone who said that might as well complain that the mechanic has a lousy vegetable selection or that shoe retailers are incompetent for not selling ovens.

Grizzlor wrote:

You couldn't pay me to listen to this Audible crap. They should have at least animated it!

Please accept my profuse gratitude for these two sentences as they gave me an excuse to talk about audioplays which are one of my favourite subjects.

The HD release of BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER on Disney+ and other streaming services is god-awful. It looks like FOX rescanned the original negatives, but then had it automatically cropped to 16:9 without any actual human oversight, and applied the same high brightness colour processing to every shot. As a result, night scenes now look like day, sunrises look like afternoons, actors are cut off at the top or bottom or sides.

Bizarrely, the show was shot with Panavision cameras on 16mm film and there is a 16:9 image possible, but FOX's widescreen HD version often shows production staff and camera operators at the right or left sides and didn't adjust the framing to crop them out or digitally paint them out. There's also a hideous digital noise reduction filter applied at the same strength to all shots which makes human faces look like plastic.

I dug out my DVDs. Then I fired up Topaz and re-read all the posts in this thread.

I thought about how the DVD release of BUFFY has all the wonderful film grain of 16mm film and is perfect for an AI upscale to mine all that grain and raise it from 576i to 720p while adding the right level of replacement film grain afterwards.

I reviewed pneumatic's guidance on how the frame rate should be adjusted from DVD 29.97 fps to 24 fps.

I noted that it might be good to apply a moderate level of colour saturation increase.

Then I decided screw it. I don't have the energy to go through this. The 16mm DVD transfer stretches fine to a TV. I'm just going to leave it alone and enjoy it as it is.

The danger is that when a brand is associated with a poor product, the audience catches on eventually and knows to stay away. At this point, Audible doesn't even have THE X-FILES: COLD CASES and STOLEN LIVES available for purchase because COLD CASES sold so poorly. The first-reading & recording production of COLD CASES was so poor and unprofessional that it repelled the audience from any future TXF Audible projects.

If Audible wanted to do something with the license and couldn't commission new scripts, the solution would have been to choose 10 short stories from the three Titan Books published THE X-FILES anthologies for Duchovny and Anderson to read out loud.

The anthologies, TRUST NO ONE, THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE and SECRET AGENDAS were a mixed bag. Titan Books clearly took first drafts from any mid-list fantasy author and did little copy-editing or revision. The stories are filled with typos and peculiarities like mid-90s stories with smartphones or Mulder and Scully working for the FBI in 2004 (when they would have been in hiding). But across three volumes, there were certainly 10 stories worth recording. (Probably not more than 10.)

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I've just finished SLAYERS: A BUFFYVERSE STORY and it's good with some flashes of greatness.

SLAYERS definitely is not series creator Joss Whedon's BUFFY. Instead, it's distinctly AMBER BENSON'S SLAYERVERSE. Writer-actress Amber Benson has created an alternate universe parallel to the original BUFFY timeline where the supporting and second-tier characters get to shine. SLAYERS focuses on alternate universe versions of Cordelia, Anya and Tara (since the original timeline versions are dead) and uses the original Spike to introduce these doubles and eventually cede the center stage to Cordelia, Anya and Tara.

Benson noticeably makes no attempt to pastiche Whedon's writing style. Where Whedon's scripts were snappy, sardonic, filled with references to 1980 - 2000 era fantasy films, TV, and comic books, Benson and co-writer Christopher Golden choose a more thoughtful pace of gentle interaction and a strong emphasis on female friendship and female intimacy. Some fans and reviewers have complained that BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER stories should mimic Whedon's approach, but this is distinctly not a BUFFY story, and eventually reveals itself to be Cordelia's story.

The writing certainly has a few weak points where characters at times exposit characterization for no apparent reason. The new Slayer, Indira, inexplicably analyzes stuffy librarian Giles' past as a punk rebel in a massive information dump that is more like a fan essay than a conversation and Indira and Giles have almost no interaction afterwards. Cordelia tells Indira not to ask Cordelia about Cordy's dead sister; then Cordelia proceeds to describe what happened to her sister immediately afterwards. (This at least turns out to be relevant.)

The plot certainly gets a little laboured, trying to re-establish the original BUFFY timeline and build a baseline of reality because shifting into a parallel reality for contrast, trying to do world-building across two timelines. Benson does not have Whedon's wit or Tracy Torme's cleverness in establishing original-universe story elements to later parallel and invert and an alternate universe. There is a workmanlike lack of artistry that is below the level of, say, the SLIDERS pilot. However, Benson's characterization and pairings and amusing humour are enjoyable and the new Cordelia, Anya and Tara are compelling, and in the end, the appeal of the characters and conversations alleviate the strained storyline.

The story is incredibly satisfying and yet ends on a soft cliffhanger where, as far as SLAYERS and potential SLAYERS sequels are concerned, their main priority is this timeline, the Cordyverse, where Cordelia Chase is the Vampire Slayer and the star. The character of Spike from the original timeline remains in this parallel universe, but his presence is indicated as temporary. This is clearly Amber Benson's vision of what the Slayerverse (as opposed to the Buffyverse) can be. The emphasis is on the women who are and can be Slayers rather than on a specific Slayer from one specific writer.

It's very fitting, given how poorly treated Cordelia and actress Charisma Carpenter were on the original shows, that Cordelia and Carpenter now have a new series that positions them as the lead in a separate timeline that will give Benson the freedom to do as she pleases with these alternate-universe versions of Cordelia, Anya and Tara. I hope there are sequels, and yet, I don't feel this story would be marred if there weren't any, because it leaves Cordelia, Anya and Tara back in action at frontline of their own stories again.

Kimon, who is basically THE X-FILES equivalent of Temporal Flux, was discussing Amazon Audible with me. I was bemused that FOX licensed THE X-FILES to Audible, and Audible's approach was very different from what it did with BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER.

With THE X-FILES, the creative approach was the decision that Audible wouldn't bother to write anything new and specific to the audio format. Instead, they printed off Joe Harris' first 25 comic book scripts for the IDW comic book series, had someone replace all the visual description with new dialogue, booked David and Gillian to record a first reading with no rehearsal, called this alternate continuity a prequel to the televised Season 10, and then told the suckers -- I mean, the fans -- to shell out their hard earned money for this microwaved regurgitation.

In contrast, BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER saw BUFFY actress (and novelist, director and screenwriter) Amber Benson write an original script and the production involved rehearsals. Why did BUFFY get the royal treatment while THE X-FILES got rehashes comic book scripts -- comic book scripts in an audio medium!

Kimon pointed out: SLAYERS: A BUFFYVERSE STORY did not actually feature Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy or David Boreanaz as Angel. SLAYERS is about the supporting cast characters: Spike, Cordelia, Tara, Anya -- actors who don't cost as much as A-list stars. In contrast, THE X-FILES had David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson.

Kimon theorized that hiring David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson to read for Audible with no rehearsals over the course of two half-days probably cost 80 - 90 percent of the budget of the average Audible project. This could be why Audible didn't write anything new for their audio drama and instead used pre-existing scripts even when those scripts were for comic books, a visual medium totally opposed to audio drama.

In contrast, James Marsters, Charisma Carpenter, Amber Benson and Emma Caulfield Ford could be hired for less and with rehearsals included. They don't command the same price for their time.

Seth MacFarlane has promised fans that if there's a fourth season of THE ORVILLE, he will find a way to produce and write it alongside any other commitments he has.

Most of the actors have said that they'll do their best to return, but they can't promise that because they have to take other work to earn a living and could conceivably be engaged elsewhere if Season 4 is ordered. It's possible that MacFarlane might produce and write a fourth season, but be in it less, and a crew composed of available cast members and newcomers might board the bridge.

I've been enjoying the multiple revivals of BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, all set after the original TV show, all focusing on characters who aren't Buffy, all set in alternate continuities to each other. There's novel series SLAYER and CHOSEN by Kiersten White and the novel series IN EVERY GENERATION and ONE GIRL IN ALL THE WORLD by Kendare Blake as well as the Amazon Audible drama SLAYERS: A BUFFYVERSE STORY written by Amber Benson (!) with Christopher Golden and featuring James Marsters as Spike, Charisma Carpenter as Cordelia (!), Amber Benson as Tara, and Emma Caulfield as Anya (!). All three are separate stories that don't tie into each other. And while the Kiersten White series ties into the Dark Horse SEASON 8 comic books, the others choose their own path.

I'm especially astonished by the Audile because I honestly thought Amber Benson, Charisma Carpenter and Emma Caulfield were absolutely fed up with BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER. Also, their characters are all dead. But it turns out they're only fed up with it if Joss Whedon is involved, and they are happy to return if Amber Benson writes a story to bring them back.

I'll have more to say on all this later, but to bring BUFFY back as as spin-off media that focuses on new characters or supporting characters, and to give each product its own continuity.. well, that's intriguing.

One of the reasons why we haven't gotten any news on THE ORVILLE's renewal or cancellation: Disney was mulling over whether or not to buy Hulu, on which THE ORVILLE streams. It looks like the purchase will go through which will lead to some clarity as to whether or not Disney, having bought the streamer on which THE ORVILLE streams, will then order another season.

https://bleedingcool.com/tv/the-orville … this-week/

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It could be that the announcement was premature or it could be that Twitter is not particularly reliable after its current owner fired too many engineers and stopped paying a lot of bills.

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It's very interesting. Sydney, a language model powered by Bing AI, performed an impression of Dr. Gregory House, TV's meanest doctor from the TV show HOUSE MD. House reviewed my account of a failed friendship and told me that I was a bad friend in a caustic and insulting manner. It made me feel better about what happened because I finally understood it, but I felt worse about myself. You can read the AI output here: https://sliders.tv/bboard/viewtopic.php … 671#p14671

I asked Sydney to offer an alternate response on the same situation from Dr. Andy Brown from the TV show EVERWOOD, TV's nicest doctor. It was fascinating how the opinion was almost exactly the same but presented with a different set of rhetorical tactics.

Alternate Response from Dr. Andy Brown:

Ib, I understand that you were hurt by Catrina's actions. She ignored you and disrespected you by not communicating or following through with any plans. She made you feel like she didn't care about you or your feelings.

But I think you have misunderstood her condition and her behavior.

Catrina has ADHD, a mental health condition that affects Catrina's ability to focus, organize, plan, and follow through. People with ADHD will have trouble remembering or prioritizing commitments, especially when they're out of their home environment and lack the usual cues and reminders.

One aspect of ADHD is called time blindness. Catrina has time blindness because of differences in her brain chemistry and function.

Time blindness is a term that describes the experience of not having a clear sense of time. This can make it hard for people with ADHD to keep track of time, especially when they are distracted or stressed. They lose track of time when they are doing something they enjoy or find challenging. They underestimate or overestimate how long things take or how much time they have left. They forget or rush through tasks at the last minute.

You've taken the view that she was avoiding you and making sure her messages were late or missing key details to ensure she wouldn't have to be around you. But that's clearly not true because she kept reaching out to you and trying to make plans with you. Yes, she sent you messages with inadequate information and response time and waited too long to send them, but she kept sending them.

This means she wasn't trying to hurt you or play with your feelings, but instead lost track of how long it had been since you'd written to her and how long she had left to make plans with you. She probably thought that she could squeeze you in at the last minute, and that you would understand and forgive her.

But you felt ignored and disrespected.

ADHD isn't an excuse. But it's an explanation. She didn't do this to you on purpose, but she did hurt you by not being attentive, reliable, and respectful.

I have to point out: you also handled the situation poorly and unfairly.

You knew that she had ADHD, and you could have been more understanding and supportive of her challenges. You could have reached out sooner and been more persistent in requesting a time, a location, a day, or a cancellation. You could have realized that her ADHD could cause her to delay or forget her responses and not taken it personally.

You've admitted that Catrina did try to reach out to you, Ib. She did try to make things right with you. She contacted you and invited you to join her on her final day in town. She reached out to you months later about another theatre festival.

But you rejected the first invitation and you threw her second invitation back in her face. You didn't tell her what she could do to make things right. You didn't give her a chance to explain or apologize. You didn't show any compassion or forgiveness. You decided that you were no longer going to try to make plans with her, but you withheld your decision until she reached out to you the second time so that you could refuse and hurt her.

That's a passive-aggressive and spiteful way to end a friendship, Ib. A friendship deserves an open and sincere expression of feelings, not a hidden and seething resentment. A friendship deserves a chance to explain and apologize, not an abrupt and insulting dismissal. You were looking for reasons to end the friendship, not to save it.

You then told her that you replaced her with another "platonic ADHD-equipped actress friend".

That was a very hurtful thing to say, Ib. You were telling Catrina that she was nothing to you. Like she was interchangeable, replaceable, and unspecial. It was also a lie because your actions reveal that you in fact considered her unique, irreplaceable, and incomparable.

You must have loved Catrina very much, Ib. You must have valued her friendship very much. Otherwise, why would you need to find someone else to take her place? Someone who shared her condition and her profession and her interests?

Rory may also be an actress with ADHD, but Rory is a very different person. Catrina was comedic and abstract, but your friend Rory is clearly more strategic and analytical. You already know that Rory is her own person and not a replacement for anybody.

So why did you say she was?

I think you said that to Catrina because you were in pain and angry. Because you wanted to make yourself feel justified in moving on without her. Because you wanted to end the relationship for good and cut off any hope of reconciliation.

You decided that her being in town for two weeks had been a test. You decided that she had failed you and failed your friendship when she didn't make plans with you. But that's not fair, Ib.

A friendship is not a one-time event, but a long-term relationship. It's not based on a single action, but on a history of interactions. It's not measured by a deadline, but by a mutual understanding and appreciation.

You both made mistakes and hurt each other. She was not doing it on purpose, but she was not being attentive or respectful to you. You were doing it deliberately, but you were also reacting to her behavior and your own emotions.

I think you were too harsh and rigid with her. You didn't give her a chance to explain or apologize. You didn't try to understand or empathize with her situation. You were bitter and unforgiving.

Something has happened to you in the past that made you this way. Maybe you were hurt or betrayed by someone you cared about, or maybe you were taken for granted by someone you trusted.

These are not easy experiences, Ib. They can make you feel pain and resentment. They can make it too easy for you to lose hope and faith in people.

You need to acknowledge your own mistakes and faults in this situation. You need to learn from this experience and grow from it.

You need to let go of your bitterness.

You need to let Catrina go. You need to be grateful that she was your friend and wish her well in her life. You can cherish the memories you shared with her and appreciate the lessons she taught you. And then you need to move on and not let this define you.

Your friend Rory has ADHD. Don't punish her when she fails to make plans. Don't assume the worst of her. Don't resent her and lash out when she gets in touch. Don't refuse to ask for an explanation. Don't fail to treat her with understanding and compassion. Don't treat her the way you treated Catrina.

Don't let bitterness limit how you relate to people. Don't let it make you cruel or uncaring. Don't let it rob you of precious relationships. Don't withhold forgiveness from others or from yourself.

You can live a happier and more fulfilling life than that.

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I'm sorry.

I'm sorry for being bitter and angry.

I'm sure it all started at some point during the third season of SLIDERS and has something to do with the death of Professor Arturo.

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RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:
ireactions wrote:

This sounds fun! I don't think I have watched BACK TO THE FUTURE in ages. Did the theatrical screening use a cut with the TO BE CONTINUED wording at the end of the film? Or did it show as it did in theatres without the explicit promise of a sequel?

I didn't see the TO BE CONTINUED, and I looked for it..

was that a gag on the home video release?  Or was it originally in theaters for part i?

Actually, thinking about it, it was only ever on the VHS release.

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August 10, 2023
In podcasts, Carter had alluded to a novelist writing a new X-FILES novel that he had been reviewing. Carter did not name the author. Since then, I haven't heard anything about it. Maybe it didn't go forward.

RussianCabbie_Lotteryfan wrote:

https://twitter.com/thexfiles/status/17 … 2143474852
Coming July 30th from #1 New York Times bestselling author Claudia Gray…
The X-Files: Perihelion extends Scully and Mulder's story beyond season 11.

Penguin Random House wrote:

The X-Files: Perihelion
by Claudia Gray


The Truth Is Out There . . . But So Are Lies.

#1 New York Times best-selling author Claudia Gray extends the story of The X-Files beyond its eleventh season in this thrilling—and romantic—original novel.

Fox Mulder and Dana Scully are still reeling from the death of their son William, but cautiously joyous about Scully’s unexpected pregnancy. Determined to raise this child together, Mulder and Scully struggle to find meaning away from the X-Files as they navigate the uncertain waters of their relationship. Then the FBI asks for their help tracking down two mysterious serial killers: one who seems to be able to control electricity, and another who disappears from the scene of the crime in what witnesses describe as a puff of smoke. It’s enough for the Bureau to re-open the X-Files—if Mulder and Scully are willing.

They reluctantly agree, cautious about what it might mean for them and their unborn child but determined to find justice for the killers’ victims. But their return to the X-Files sparks the interest of a shadowy cabal, the heirs to the now-dead Syndicate, and Mulder and Scully soon discover that their investigation is connected to a worldwide threat on an unprecedented scale... one with their own future at its heart.

Coming July 30, 2024.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/book … udia-gray/

I am so very, very, very tired of that stupid Syndicate myth-arc. Christ on a bike, AGAIN?

But out of respect for RussianCabbie, I will put in a pre-order, read it the day it comes out, and post about it here. :-)

Still reading Patrick Stewart's autobiography...

There's a story where the serious, dour Patrick Stewart was appalled by all the laughter and goofy quipping of his castmates during the first season of STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION and then summoned them all to a meeting where he told them all off for blowing takes and cracking wise instead of solemnly and seriously performing the work of acting. "We are not here to have fun!" he roared at them.

Brent Spiner, Jonathan Frakes, Michael Dorn, Marina Sirtis, Gates McFadden and Denise Crosby contemplated this thoughtfully and collectively laughed in his face and with each other, their uncontrollable giggling continuing for a prolonged period at which point Stewart fled for his trailer with his dignity in tatters, realizing that the gang just did not take him very seriously.

There's also a neat anecdote where during Season 3, the married Patrick Stewart was seeing very little of his wife due to his filming in LA and her being in England. Stewart found himself falling in love with guest-star Jennifer Hetrick (Caroline in "Last Days", Claire LeBeau in "The Seer") and dating her while realizing that he wasn't in love with his wife anymore and filing for divorce. Stewart and Hetrick dated for a little while, but the constant pursuit of tabloid photographers was too much for Hetrick, hitting a breaking point when, on a private island vacation, they had to travel separately to get there and lasted two days before Hetrick had simply had enough. Stewart spent five more days alone on the island knowing that his girlfriend was done with him, his ex-wife was furious with him, his children loathed him, and his castmates thought he was a joyless pain in the ass and a joke.

It's so bleak that it's funny. Stewart later recounts that in later years, his TNG castmates will regularly mock-snarl at him, "We are not here to have fun!" which he agrees is extremely well-deserved.

Really struggling through Patrick Stewart's autobiography where he feels the need to describe what feels like every single stageplay he ever featured in oh my God I get it you felt super-insecure and on edge at all times I understand I think five examples is sufficient do we really need fifteen?

That said, it's pretty clear that Stewart had an untreated anxiety disorder masked by his commanding vocal presence.

I'm sure it'll get more interesting once we get to STAR TREK.

The official Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline was published a few days ago. It only includes the movies and Disney+ shows. Not included are: AGENTS OF SHIELD, AGENT CARTER, INHUMANS, RUNAWAYS, CLOAK AND DAGGER, DAREDEVIL, JESSICA JONES, LUKE CAGE, IRON FIST, THE PUNISHER or DEFENDERS.

Noticeably, the AGENT CARTER show, despite being showrun by the CAPTAIN AMERICA: WINTER SOLDIER screenwriters, is dismissed in favour of the AGENT CARTER ONE SHOT short film (which the TV show initially contradicted and seemed to replace). The ONE SHOT covers the events of Peggy's post-WWII life instead of the TV show version.

Kevin Feige had a foreward where he says:

On the Multiverse note, we recognize that there are stories - movies and series - that are canonical to Marvel but were created by different storytellers during different periods of Marvel's history. The timeline presented in this book is specific to the MCU's Sacred Timeline through Phase 4. But, as we move forward and dive deeper into the Multiverse Saga, you never know when timelines may just crash or converge (hint, hint/ spoiler alert).

I think it's a shame, I understand some of why Feige has made this decision, but I'm also baffled by how his DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN choices seem contradictory.

In terms of how Feige personally feels about the Marvel TV shows: it's pretty clear from looking back that when they were first made, Feige was shut out of TV.

Ike Perlmutter ran Marvel Studios (film), Marvel Entertainment (TV and publishing and merchandise). Perlmutter wanted the Marvel brand name earning money in broadcast licensing and ad sales, so he commissioned AGENTS OF SHIELD and blocked Feige from any involvement, instead ceding that and Marvel TV development in general to Joss Whedon (who was also on the films) and Jeph Loeb.

This was offensive. Perlmutter had tasked Kevin Feige to be the architect of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, yet given Feige no authority of the MCU TV shows. It's a bit like telling Kevin Feige that he is to design every room of a house except for the kitchen which Joss Whedon will build without any input from Feige.

Joss Whedon was to connect AGENTS OF SHIELD to the AVENGERS movies, but eventually, Whedon left both Marvel film and TV. Perlmutter's intereference on Feige's films made Feige ready to resign from Marvel. Disney removed Perlmutter from overseeing Feige and granted Feige full control of the film division.

But Perlmutter, being a major owner in Disney after it purchased Marvel, still retained control of TV, publishing and merchandise, and was still free to make TV shows that Feige couldn't have any influence over (but which Feige was not beholden to follow). Furthermore, Perlmutter was so incensed by Feige's new independence that collaboration was now impossible.

Feige's response/non-response was simply to block out TV entirely and act like it didn't exist. He had no control, so it was pointless to worry about it, and TV was always going to have to follow the films' lead anyway. At one point, a journalist asked Feige, in a phone interview, what he thought of the INHUMANS disaster and Feige jokingly pretended that the phone wasn't working.

There was a lot of great television that came out of the TV division, but I suspect AGENTS OF SHIELD, JESSICA JONES and LUKE CAGE didn't come from Perlmutter as much as they escaped from Perlmutter.

Some contradictions and peculiarities did arise between film and TV. AGENTS OF SHIELD established that a lot of unaware civilians were latent Inhumans who were starting to manifest powers; no Marvel film has ever acknowledged that a segment of the population is spontaneously developing superpowers.

AGENTS OF SHIELD introduced the Darkhold, a magic book which reappears in WANDAVISION but looks nothing like the version in AOS. However, DR. STRANGE II reveals that any Darkhold is "a copy" of the original spells, allowing multiple versions.

SHIELD returned to the forefront of the US government's counterintelligence branch in Season 4, but the movies never acknowledged this and SHIELD grudgingly went underground again in Season 5 and stayed so for its series finale in Season 7.

The major breaking point: AGENTS OF SHIELD synced up with AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR showing Thanos invading Earth, and Season 5 of AGENTS OF SHIELD ended just before Thanos erased 50 percent of all life in the universe. AVENGERS: ENDGAME showed the erasures reversed five years after INFINITY WAR... but Season 6 of AGENTS OF SHIELD made no reference to the Thanos erasures at all. The AOS writers explained that they had no idea what was happening in ENDGAME, mentioned a one year time gap between Season 5 - 6, but were short by four years. They asked the audience to 'pretend' Season 6 was set before INFINITY WAR even though Season 5 had been set contemporaneously with it.

However, the AOS writers accidentally created a suitable explanation: the Season 5 finale had featured the SHIELD agents landing their plane in Tahiti to bid Coulson farewell. ENDGAME had shown the erased people restored, in some cases without much memory of their erasure. The simplest explanation: the erasures and restorations happened after the team landed in Tahiti at which point they bid farewell to Coulson, took off in their plane, and only realized in mid-flight from news reports that they had ceased to exist for five years. Then they coped, adjusted, and resumed their usual business, and the "one year later" reference is set after this. This ties in perfectly well with how relatively normal the post-restoration world is in SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME.

But even so, AGENTS OF SHIELD's lack of direct tie-in and coordination with ENDGAME made it clear that AGENTS OF SHIELD was basically an unwanted media tie-in novel with all the importance of a forgettable STAR TREK novel.

The seventh season of SHIELD maintained that SHIELD was continuing as an underground organization with a robotic duplicate of Agent Coulson... but no Marvel film or TV show has referred to this version of SHIELD and Nick Fury doesn't call on them for help in SECRET INVASION (although Fury's overall behaviour in that series is baffling).

Perlmutter was eventually ousted from Marvel entirely. Feige was made head of film and TV and publishing and so came the Disney+ shows. Feige has never been publicly caustic or insulting about the TV shows, but he has specified that they were from Marvel Entertainment (Perlmutter) and not Marvel Studios (Feige).

Feige approved Vincent D'Onofrio's Wilson Fisk (DAREDEVIL) returning to the MCU and then specified that if Daredevil ever appeared in a Marvel Studios production, Charlie Cox would play the role and Cox did indeed appear in SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME. There were no real inconsistencies that couldn't be bridged.

But then something odd happened. Something Slider_Quinn21 foresaw on February 13, 2019:

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

Regarding DAREDEVIL: Yeah, you might end up in a Sliders situation where you get back Charlie Cox but most of his supporting characters are missing and story threads (like Bullseye) could get completely dropped.

This is where we seem to be with DAREDEVIL.

Feige approved a Disney+ DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN series, cast Charlie Cox as Daredevil and Vincent D'onofrio as Wilson Fisk -- but didn't rehire Deborah Ann Woll as Karen Page or Elden Henson as Foggy Nelson. The character of Vanessa Fisk, played memorably by Ayelet Zurer, was recast with Sandrine Holt.

Fans theorized that Karen and Foggy would be omitted and written out, or that their absences indicated that Feige didn't consider the Netflix DAREDEVIL to be 'canon' but would reuse Cox and D'onofrio. Now Feige has said, in a somewhat diplomatic way, that he does not consider anything outside the MCU movies and Disney+ originating shows to be canon to the core MCU timeline, but those non-Feige shows are part of the Marvel multiverse.

Even so, Feige's attitude towards DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN makes no sense to me.

By rehiring Cox and D'onofrio, Feige was effectively establishing a link to the Netflix show and its stories and continuity, and the Karen Page and Foggy Nelson characters are a vital part of the ensemble around Cox. If the BORN AGAIN isn't meant to be in continuity with the Netflix show, then someone who isn't Charlie Cox should play Daredevil and someone who isn't Vincent D'onofrio should play the Wilson Fisk.

It's alienating for Cox and D'onofrio to be present but Woll and Hensen to be absent and very dismissive of the other actors who made Cox's incarnation of Daredevil so much more special than Cox alone.

The reality, however, is that production on BORN AGAIN has stopped: the showrunners have been fired, production is to start over, and no filming can happen until the actors' strike ends. There is currently no DAREDEVIL being filmed, which means it is completely up in the air whether or not BORN AGAIN will reflect the Netflix show or flat-out ignore it. New showrunners have been hired, the rumour is that the show was originally a comedy legal drama that will now be closer to the dark action of the Netflix show... but there's absolutely zero indication that Woll and Hensen will be included.

Feige has never outright dismissed the non-Feige shows and still hasn't, even in his foreword to the official timeline... but I'm uneasy when it comes to DAREDEVIL.

I don't mind SHIELD not getting mentioned, but it would really disappoint me if a new DAREDEVIL series with Charlie Cox were dismissive to Deborah Ann Woll and Elden Hensen and their characters. Bringing Cox back is drawing on a memory and fondness for that specific trio of actors, not Cox alone. If Cox had been recast, there would be no expectation of Woll and Hensen.

I hope that the new DAREDEVIL showrunners will understand that.

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Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

ireactions mentioned that I voted against Trump in 2016 but not for Clinton.  I greatly regret this, even though my vote would not have mattered in the result.  I grossly underestimated the harm that Donald Trump could do, and it's one reason why I've significantly tried to educate myself in these matters.  I didn't used to listen to political podcasts or learn about political figures.

This was a difficult situation for you. Democrat or not, Hillary Clinton's politics, voting record, values, professed intentions and intentions were abhorrent to you. The Clintons were Democrats in name, but their politics and actions were all too often about courting Wall Street, outsourcing labour overseas, gutting welfare, etc. Hillary Clinton expected you to vote for her because she wasn't a registered Republican.

I think you have to consider that Hillary Clinton didn't do anything to earn your support. Even if you look at voting as an exercise in voting for your preferred opponent, your logic at the time was that you would vote against Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton simultaneously because your preferred opponent was, I dunno, Joe the Tiger Guy. Clinton didn't do anything to convince you that she would be your preferred opponent either. She seemed to take her victory for granted.

In contrast, I feel Biden put in the work. Biden worked hard to be the president you could grudgingly tolerate, the president you'd prefer to oppose and work around, the president you'd rather be grit your teeth and endure as opposed to the president who would actively try to get you killed in nuclear war and pandemic.

Biden's team called Trump a flailing, losing, messageless campaign of nothing, but he didn't kick back, he campaigned hard like he was losing. He repeatedly declared how he was a proud Democrat who would work hard for Republican and Democrat and independent voters alike. That's just rhetoric, but Clinton didn't even do that.

It goes both ways, Slider_Quinn21. Maybe you wish you voted for Clinton, but candidates have to do something to earn your vote.

Loved the season premiere, haven't gotten to the rest of the episodes yet. I'm betting it's awesome, though.

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This sounds fun! I don't think I have watched BACK TO THE FUTURE in ages. Did the theatrical screening use a cut with the TO BE CONTINUED wording at the end of the film? Or did it show as it did in theatres without the explicit promise of a sequel?

My understanding is that in THOR, Loki is lost in space and presumably encounters Thanos who suggests an alliance and gives Loki the scepter with the Mind Stone. In AVENGERS, there seem to be a few scenes where Loki isn't entirely on board with the Mind Stone's influence, particularly where Thor points out the chaos that Loki has unleashed.

But I'm actually not sure LOKI the TV show forgets that. Noticeably, Loki is only a few days removed from AVENGERS in the LOKI series, but his characterization has shifted from 'cackling supervillain madman' to 'amoral scoundrel' very suddenly while flat-out admitting that he hurts people because he feels weak and putting a scare into someone makes him look stronger than he feels.

The second season of LOKI is, what, a week since AVENGERS? And Loki has gone from being a nutjob ranting about how everyone's a peasant to be ruled to consoling a police officer who lost his temper and suggesting some pie to calm down, and Loki is also no longer easily bated into violent tantrums.

That said, thinking about it, maybe Loki has never really been aware of how the Mind Stone affected him.

Loki:
Do you remember that time I was so angry with my father and my brother?

I went down to Earth and I held the whole of New York City hostage with an alien army, tried to use the Mind Stone on Tony Stark, it didn't work, I threw him off the building -- I mean, let me tell you something: that wasn't tactical.

I lost it. Sometimes, our emotions get the better of us.

This is hilarious as Loki takes another big step into sanity and being a viable long-term protagonist as opposed to a villain... but it's also a bit of a retcon (to me). My impression was that, in AVENGERS, Loki was under the influence of the Mind Stone and that it was taking all of his insecurities and frustrations and pushing him into a deranged state. At least that's what I remember. LOKI, not unreasonably, takes the view that Loki has to be responsible for his own actions to be responsible for his own growth.

Or maybe I remember wrong. I wasn't a very big fan of the AVENGERS movie despite everyone else loving it.

I think DAREDEVIL is another project like SECRET INVASION. Like the SECRET INVASION storyline, the Daredevil character was an intellectual property and brand that Feige wanted to see produced under his banner. He commissioned a series, accepted a pitch that was very different from the Netflix version... and it didn't turn out the way he was hoping. Because of the actors strike, he had the chance to press pause and rethink it.

It's easy to backseat drive and say that a DAREDEVIL show where Daredevil doesn't show up until Episode 4 is clearly mismanaged. But the truth is, you could say that about a lot of daring creative choices if taken out of context, such as how Daredevil didn't appear in costume on the Netflix show until the Season 1 finale and didn't appear in costume at all for all of Season 3.

Anyone could, without watching the SHE-HULK finale, declare that it's stupid and silly for She-Hulk to protest the climax being a superhero/supervillain fight and demand that the writers change it into something more low-key. Anyone could declare that it's ridiculous to show Daredevil in costume walking out of She-Hulk's home in the morning after having spent the night.

I would think that Feige probably thought the DAREDEVIL D+ series ideas were interesting, but when he saw them onscreen, they didn't live up to how they'd been described or how he'd imagined them, so he put the show on hold.

I would agree: the Disney+ era of Marvel TV shows have been produced like feature films and they've run into issues where it's a lot easier to address narrative issues on a 2.5 hour movie than on a 6 - 10 episode TV show. They're probably filming entire the season throughout their shooting schedule instead of one episode at a time. Two shows stand out to me as suffering for it.

THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER's villain is Karli, whose evil plan is... to provide refugees with food and shelter. Which makes Sam and Bucky the villains if they oppose providing refugees with food and shelter. The series ends up having Karli murder people for no good reason because it cannot otherwise justify Sam and Bucky hunting her down; furthermore, Sam and Bucky do nothing for the refugees.

This was an oversight from writing the whole series all at once and not stepping back to review it episode by episode. And had THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER been filmed like a more 'traditional' series, an episode could have been inserted to show Sam and Bucky doing something for the innocent people Karli was trying to help. This odd lapse, to me, made the show seem oddly tone deaf and witless and blind to its own narrative.

WANDAVISION also made an odd oversight: it never seems to decisively confront how Wanda is a villain for kidnapping an entire town of innocent people and treating them as playthings.

Yes, there are multiple scenes where SWORD faces Wanda and where Vision is furious with Wanda about this. But in the ninth episode finale, nearly all of Wanda's enemies are treated as villains: Agatha Harkness is a power hungry thief, the SWORD director Hayward leading the anti-Wanda taskforce tries to blow up the town and its people, whereas Wanda, still a kidnapper, is regarded as heroic for saving the town and grudgingly releasing everyone from the captivity she was keeping them in with no real regret or remorse or attempt at reparation.

This seems to be an error where there was no chance to address it, which made it both awkward and appropriate when DR. STRANGE II dismissed WANDAVISION trying to present Wanda as heroic and made her a flat-out villain. I think that WANDAVISION oversight happened from shooting all the episodes at the same time and reshoots being too difficult for such a large production; I think WANDAVISION should have made it perfectly clear that Wanda is a villain.

I was pretty happy with SHE-HULK and LOKI and MOON KNIGHT, but I think Marvel TV production can definitely run into problems with its approach. At the same time, lots of shows are shot in a more episodic fashion and are still tone deaf: note how THE X-FILES revival season took on an anti-vaxxer tone and implied that non-biological children are can never be loved by their parents.

I think that Marvel might consider the approach of Blumhouse, the horror production company. They did the HALLOWEEN deboot (not a typo). Their approach to lower budget filmmaking: they commission a script and then storyboard the script and assemble it into a cheap animatic with scale-salary voice actors performing all the dialogue. Then they determine, based on storyboarding, animatics and vocal performances, if this looks and sounds like a movie they want to greenlight. I think Feige might consider adopting something similar for his TV projects, even after greenlighting them, so that scripts can be adjusted in advance of filming them. This would allow him to address mishaps like Sam and Bucky having no concern for starving refugees or presenting a mind controlling kidnapper as the hero.

Grizzlor wrote:

Secret Invasion was so bad, Bob Iger has to be dumbfounded.

Very likely. Iger wasn't involved in SECRET INVASION. It was filmed from September 2021 to September 2022 and Iger only returned to Disney in November 2022. It would have been unfamiliar to him regardless of its quality.

Grizzlor wrote:

The Marvels is going to follow right up along that path of trash.

I don't understand this comment as the SECRET INVASION creative teams (there were three separate teams working on SECRET INVASION) are not involved in THE MARVELS just as the WANDAVISION team was not involved with DR. STRANGE II.

Slider_Quinn21 wrote:

I'm not one to buy into the idea that Marvel has jumped the shark, but something is wrong.  I don't know if they spread themselves too thin or they lost the ball or what, but their storytelling has gotten so much weaker.

I think that Marvel Films and their TV division has a certain approach that works for a lot of projects but not every project. Their approach is that it's all about the brand name first and creative vision second. IRON MAN, THOR, CAPTAIN AMERICA and AVENGERS were attempts to built brands names out of AVENGERS and its subordinate properties. The vision? That was really up to the individual filmmaker so long as they met Kevin Feige and Ike Perlmutter's stipulations of a shared universe and teases to subsequent films. And this is absolutely fine because Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and Avengers are very versatile characters. Every one of us could come up with our own terrific version of Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and the Avengers, and Feige was hyperenthusiastic about seeing the comic book source material interpreted and depicted in film.

This approach to brands coming first and storytelling coming second may seem crudely capitalistic, but Feige has a great sense of how to create cultural myth and to find creators who can interpret that myth into a marketable, general audience product. IRON MAN can be a post-war trauma character study or an action comedy. THOR can be Shakespeare in the Park (haha) or a goofy adventure movie. CAPTAIN AMERICA can be Indiana Jones style period action or a spy thriller. AVENGERS can be a sitcom or a LORD OF THE RINGS style epic. ANT-MAN can be a dramedy about a bad father trying to mend his ways.

The same approach was taken with TV under Feige: WANDAVISION as an homage to sitcoms, LOKI as a Douglas Adams style sci-fi adventure, MOON KNIGHT as a Christopher Nolan-esque identity crisis, SHE-HULK as Ally McBeal girl-power legal drama, or just doing horror with WEREWOLF BY KNIGHT. Kevin Feige loves Wanda, Vision, Loki, Moon Knight, Werewolf by Night, and She-Hulk, all of whom are all characters with a lot of vivid, meaningful elements that any creator can spin into something personal and dynamic.

Kevin Feige also loved SECRET INVASION the comic book (I guess) and saw it as a great title and a great property that he commissioned as a series. As a brand, SECRET INVASION is such an ominous, foreboding title, suggesting peril, thrill, danger and excitement.

Since SECRET INVASION went through three different showrunners for its six episodes, none of whom seemed to be able to wring a coherent adaptation from it, I think it's clear that Feige unfortunately chose a property that lacked vivid elements to interpret and adapt effectively for television.

The resources allotted to SECRET INVASION may have at first seemed lavish: Samuel L. Jackson and Ben Mendelsohn. $212 million in budget. They started development in September 2020 and started filming in September 2021. The fact that they went through three writing teams in 12 months demonstrates that SECRET INVASION proved to be very difficult to write. Due to the delays and creator turnover, SECRET INVASION began losing access to its actors which is why roles that you'd think would be leads seem isolated or limited or abruptly removed from the story. Scripting became less about telling a coherent story and more about getting pages to film with the actors before their contracts concluded for the project.

I think that Feige has a certain approach that, overall, has served him and Marvel well. But not every project is right for that approach, and SECRET INVASION was simply the wrong property to adapt.

Honestly, the original comic is not that great either. CIVIL WAR (written by Mark Millar) had established that any unregistered superhero was now a fugitive to be hunted down by Iron Man and the Mighty Avengers. The splinter led to a fugitive group, the New Avengers led by Luke Cage (with Spider-Man, Wolverine, Spider-Woman, Iron Fist, Dr. Strange and Hawkeye).

Writer Brian Michael Bendis was leading most of the AVENGERS titles. After CIVIL WAR, the New Avengers discover that Skrulls have been infiltrating Earth and impersonating any number of superheroes. They start to wonder if Iron Man's behaviour is because he is a Skrull; they start to wonder if the Registration Act was due to Skrull manipulations; they start to wonder who they can and can't trust. In SECRET INVASION, the Skrulls launch their invasion and reveal that various Skrulls include... well, it's mostly public figures like Stephen Colbert and such. On the superhero side... the Skrulls turn out to be impersonating Hank Pym (Giant Man), Spider-Woman... and a few other second-tier heroes.

Bendis could not have revealed the Skrulls to be anyone too important because, ultimately, Bendis was not writing the individual titles for Iron Man or Wolverine or Ms. Marvel or Spider-Man or Iron Fist or Daredevil -- he was just writing the Avengers' team books where characters from different editorial offices would appear together. Bendis would not have wanted or been allowed to interfere with the Spider-Man, X-Men, Iron Man, Daredevil, Iron Fist or Wolverine books by revealing anyone from those titles to be Skrulls.

His only options were characters who were exclusive to the Avengers titles -- so, second-tier superheroes who rarely if ever led a title of their own. Even as a comic book, SECRET INVASION promised a lot more than it could ever deliver. SECRET INVASION, at the halfway mark, degenerated into a superhero-vs-Skrull battle in New York City with the individual superhero titles showing their individual part of the battle while the central fights unfolded in the SECRET INVASION title.

SECRET INVASION devolved from a potentially complex story of impostors and impersonators, becoming a multi-issue fight scene, and it ended rather anti-climactically. It was not Brian Michael Bendis' finest hour. In future crossovers, he wisely didn't write plots that depended on having control over characters who were outside his influence.

I'm not sure why Kevin Feige felt so strongly about adapting SECRET INVASION. Maybe he just liked the title.

I don't think Kevin Feige has lost his way. I think he just lost his way on SECRET INVASION. I've enjoyed most of his output including MS. MARVEL and MOON KNIGHT and SHE-HULK was hilarious, especially where Feige allowed himself to be portrayed as a soulless, penny-pinching robot with a baseball cap. I think Feige is a human being, and human beings are not going to get things right every single time. I'm sure his next project will be good.

I am only three episodes into SECRET INVASION, a show so boring and uneventful and devoid of interest that I'm vacuuming while it plays (with headphones). But I can tell you exactly what's wrong with SECRET INVASION and it's totally obvious what's wrong with it: the SECRET INVASION storyline is a first season of a TV show that has no business being the first season of a TV show.

SECRET INVASION is about shapeshifters impersonating humans. This means that SECRET INVASION requires that the audience be highly familiar with the characters so that the potential that some or any or all of them are impersonators is compelling and disturbing; we need to know their behaviours and speech patterns and mannerisms and screen presences to look for discrepancies in the actors' performances.

On AGENTS OF SHIELD, we had spent over three seasons with the characters before we entered the LMD arc where we didn't know which team members had been captured and replaced with killer robots, so it was unnerving and frightening. On SECRET INVASION, our characters are people we barely know, so the potential that they are impersonators is hardly concerning.

Who is Nick Fury? Who knows? Fury was a limited presence at his height, more an informant making guest appearances and cameos than a main character. We don't know him well enough to tell if he might be an impostor or not. Who is Talos? Who can say? We've known him for one full appearance in CAPTAIN MARVEL and a cameo in FAR FROM HOME and since he was a shapeshifter from the start, we have no baseline for the character. SECRET INVASION is not the right story to tell without a well-established cast that has made regular, consistent appearances. SECRET INVASION would have been a great eighth season of AGENTS OF SHIELD. Instead, it's Season 1 (and probably the only season) of a Nick Fury show.

If a show about shapeshifting aliens can't use impersonation as a plot device for suspense and terror, then there's no point doing it. There is no point to doing SECRET INVASION. I would say the same about the original comic, too, where nobody that important ever turned out to be a Skrull.

The show has plenty of other problems too. It's very obvious that multiple showrunners have passed through this project because the series is clearly a clumsy mismash of different writers' mismatched drafts. The most obvious problem is the lack of exposition: where has Fury been since AGE OF ULTRON? Why didn't he find the Skrulls a home as promised? I can tell from the fumbled plots that don't explain these raised questions: the showrunner was fired in mid-scripting and didn't complete his work; the incoming writer had to whip up more pages slapdash based on actor availability and location bookings and wasn't able to work out the story.

It's interesting: when AGENTS OF SHIELD first aired, there was a certain air of impostor syndrome to it. It claimed to be a SHIELD show set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but it only had a brief cameo from a supporting SHIELD character from AVENGERS (Maria Hill) and none of the superheroes appeared on camera. Later, it claimed to be set after THOR: DARK WORLD, but the TV budget sets and effects, when compared to the lavish production of a feature, made AGENTS feel like a fan film phony. Eventually, the tie-in to WINTER SOLDIER and a guest-appearance from Samuel L. Jackson closed the credibility gap.

In contrast, SECRET INVASION has Samuel L. Jackson in a lead role and SECRET INVASION feels like even more of a fan film phony than AGENTS OF SHIELD ever did, and it's not closing the credibility gap at all. Nick Fury in SECRET INVASION feels like a fake. The Fury we met in AVENGERS and got to know more in WINTER SOLDIER was a master spy. The Nick Fury in this show is an inept, incompetent spy. He runs about aimlessly in a public space and haplessly allows a terrorist to detonate explosives; he's facing shapeshifters but makes no plans for his comrades to easily identify him and gets his friend killed; his intelligence skills consist of demanding information from villains who have no reason to give it; he issues death threats to people who are perfectly willing to die.

Nick Fury should be written like Ethan Hunt in the latter-era MISSION IMPOSSIBLE movies: a trickster, simultaneously an improvisor and a master-planner. Ethan Hunt is a well-written spy in the last three M:I movies because the actor and writer/director on those films were able to lavish time and creativity. Nick Fury demands the same level of attention, but SECRET INVASION is rushed hackwork due to some strange personnel changeovers behind the scenes.

SECRET INVASION does not seem to have had a consistent creative hand, so a lot of its choices are not fully mined or developed.

But even if SECRET INVASION had boasted a consistent creative team, SECRET INVASION as a series is just an exercise in self-sabotage. The concept demands a level of familiarity with the characters that would require at least one season to get to know them first. SECRET INVASION is unable to create any vivid sequences of impostorship because these characters are strangers or near-strangers. SECRET INVASION should have been a season of AGENTS OF SHIELD or a second season of FALCON & THE WINTER SOLDIER or a second season of MS. MARVEL or even a second season of WANDAVISION or LOKI. It should not have been the first season of anything.

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QuinnSlidr, I have to tell you: I am truly baffled and confused by your remarks.

Slider_Quinn21 voted for Biden in the last election and voted not-Trump before that (but not for Clinton).

Slider_Quinn21 described Robert Kennedy Jr. as "crazy" and associated him with other right-wing nutjobs whose names I don't wish to type, all of whom Slider_Quinn21 clearly holds in contempt.

Slider_Quinn21 said that Robert Kennedy Jr. doesn't have any of the ideals that Democrats would vote for; Slider_Quinn21 votes against Republicans.

Whatever the issue is here, it's not Slider_Quinn21's politics. As long as he votes against Trump, that should really be sufficient for your not unreasonable moral standard.

The rest is Slider_Quinn21 psychoanalyzing and gaming out the MAGA movement and how it could play out in the next election. Slider_Quinn21 is an amateur pollster of sorts and analysis is not affiliation. When we start accusing an anti-Trump voter of allegiance to alt-right fascism, there should be more evidence than their political commentary not being wholeheartedly in favour of what Democrat Party does or doesn't do.

The Democratic Party of America is not above criticism or reproach and has serious systemic and structural issues (albeit not as severe as the Republican Party which is basically a criminal organization and a terrorist group at this point). Real democrats don't do loyalty tests or demand ideological purity. They only thing a democrat should demand is a basic foundational belief that should transcend all party boundaries; the belief all people are created equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights, among them being the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and that James Brown is the godfather of soul.

So what's the actual issue here?

I think the issue is that your stepfather died and you are in pain. I think your fight or flight instincts have gone haywire. I think you are suffering and hurt. I think you are experiencing distress and loss and mistaking observation for enemy action. I think you are looking for a fight when what you need is a friend.

I think you should tell us about your stepfather and why you miss him and what he meant to you and how hard and painful it has been for you.

I think you should share your memories of him, both the good and the bad, and why his loss has left a void in your life that is leaving you in agony.

This has been a transparent attempt to be sentimental with what I confess is a guess and possibly projection, because "I think you are looking for a fight when what you need is a friend" would also apply to me at many points in my life.

This has also been a transparent attempt to request that Slider_Quinn21 not to be offended or upset with you for these odd attacks on his politics and to ask him to remember that you're going through something really hard and horrible.

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One of my favourite comic books is INSUFFERABLE by Mark Waid, which was released as a digital comic on the unfortunately now defunct web comic site Thrillbent. And, for some strange reason, I can't seem to buy the digital comics even when they're said to be for sale. And I wanted to read it again, so I grudgingly bought the hard copy, a trade paperback containing the entire series for $45 USD.

This 2012 comic is about two former superhero partners: the hard-edged, seasoned Nocturnus who trained his teen sidekick Galahad in the ways of crimefighting only for Galahad to become an ungrateful jerk who was also more successful and popular than Nocturnus who now has to struggle to hold back his resentment.

Anyway, the comic came in the mail yesterday. I haven't bought a hard copy book in over ten years. This trade paperback is so heavy and thick with its 440 heavy, glossy pages opening it makes me fear I will break the spine. There are two pages, Pages 139 and 140, that are printed in reverse order by mistake. I had to install new lightbulbs in my bedroom lamp to read it because I've been deliberately keeping the light dim for reading on my e-reader or my tablet and this is the first thing I've read in years that doesn't have a backlight of some sort. Reading INSUFFERABLE is inconvenient and a little annoying.

That said, the comic remains one of the funniest takes on superheroes ever and it is well worth the trouble and expense. I'm going to scan and print Pages 139 - 140 and use double-sided tape to put them back in the book in the correct order.

It's a great series. I wrote about it earlier:

ireactions wrote:

This is a post about the comic book INSUFFERABLE, by Mark Waid.

The Stars: In the late 90s and early 2000s, the top superhero comic book writers were (and arguably still are) Grant Morrison, Mark Millar and Mark Waid.

Grant Morrison is an eccentric visionary of crazy cosmic ideas who wrote JLA, NEW X-MEN and ALL-STAR SUPERMAN. Mark Millar is the hypersardonic and action-oriented writer of CIVIL WAR, ULTIMATE X-MEN and THE ULTIMATES and also creator of WANTED, KICK-ASS and KINGSMAN.

Mark Waid reformatted traditional superhero stories with modern wit and high adventure pacing and hyperdramatic turns of plot and comedy with science adventures in THE FLASH and FANTASTIC FOUR, hilarious comedy in DAREDEVIL, spy thrillers in CAPTAIN AMERICA and some brilliant creator owned material with detective stories in THE UNKNOWN and POTTER'S FIELD and dark superhero horror in IRREDEEMABLE and INCORRUPTIBLE.

The Partners: Grant Morrison and Mark Millar were friends in the 90s. Morrison was renowned for his fourth-wall breaking work on ANIMAL MAN in the 80s and his BATMAN: ARKHAM ASYLUM oneshot. Millar approached Morrison for advice on breaking into the industry.

Morrison saw Millar's talent and collaborated with him in order to get Millar hired. Together, they co-wrote SWAMP THING and THE FLASH and worked together on project pitches that led to Millar becoming a comic book star on THE AUTHORITY, THE ULTIMATES and SUPERMAN: RED SON.

The Breakup: However, on the last three, Millar took sole credit and did not credit Morrison's contributions to Morrison -- which apparently upset Morrison, especially when he had consulted extensively, offered ideas and plot points and even ghost-written an issue of AUTHORITY for Millar. This ended their partnership.

Grant Morrison's writing is eccentric and bizarre with peculiar ideas Superman fighting an angelic invasion of Earth, an intelligent virus that transforms into an addictive drug to mind control mutants, Batman creating a backup personality for his brain in the event of a nervous breakdown -- matched with an upbeat, gleeful joy for all the wild ideas of superheroes and a grand, epic scale of action.

Mark Millar's style is very action-oriented with a dark sense of comedy (a homicidal 10 year old superheroine) and while his post-Morrison writing has lacked Morrison's mind-expanding ideas, Millar has shown a gift for crafting comics as visual concepts perfect for film pitches that led to WANTED, KICK-ASS and KINGSMAN becoming box office hits.

Insufferable: Grant Morrison often gives interviews describing the inner workings of his mind and how he believes he was visited by aliens to impart their concepts to humans via the medium of comic books and how this had nothing to do with the hallucinogens he'd ingested and how he finds that far too many comic book writers think only in terms of reiterating superhero tropes and old continuity. Mark Millar relentlessly hypes his brand with his film pitches in comic book form and makes constant reference to hobnobbing with celebrities and studios to present himself as a film producer first and a comic book writer second.

The Response: Their mutual friend, Mark Waid, remarked in an editorial that he found arrogance to be obnoxious and annoying and that it would enrage him, and his therapist would frequently remark to Waid, "Why be mad?"

Mark Waid wrote:

I was reading an interview with one of them and as he blathered relentlessly on about what a genius he was and how tiny the rest of us were, I remembered the phrase, "Why be mad?" and instead expressed my frustrations creatively through the language I know best: comics. I'd do an ongoing series about two former partners where the junior one grew up to be an ungrateful jerk and the senior one would have to labor hard to choke back his resentment.

It is very interesting to read INSUFFERABLE because despite these origins, the actual characters of John (the older insufferable) and Jarod (the younger insufferable) have shifted from their real-life counterparts.

John in INSUFFERABLE is not a Grant Morrison-like eccentric genius at all; he is a troubled, sad, withdrawn, driven, tactical and while he is clearly a better crimefighter, he has no false modesty and can back up any and all of his boasts. He does, however, relentlessly chastise his former partner for any shortcomings. He is not full of lunatic concepts; all of his ideas are tactical approaches to fighting crime.

Part of me wonders if Waid made this choice deliberately because, as Waid concedes in his editorial, "Ideas are not a series and jokes are not a character," perhaps thinking that a pastiche of Grant Morrison would be a limited character template. The rest of me wonders if Morrison is so bizarre that any attempt to pastiche him would be hopeless. In addition, Waid has declared, "Grant and I have always been the best of friends," so it's possible that Waid's stated vitriol is for Millar and Millar only.

Jarod is certainly more like Mark Millar than John is like Morrison. Jarod is primarily fixated on how his superhero exploits will create a splash in the news and on social media, a marked criticism of Millar concocting superhero comics largely in terms of how he can market them for notoriety and he is relentless in trying to assert his former mentor's irrelevance.

Having a fictional character mimic the showboating Mark Millar is significantly easier, but it's intriguing that Waid largely confines his (forgiving) contempt towards Jarod. Waid presents Jarod as a talented but self-destructive oaf who is crippled by his inability to act on anything other than his anger towards his former partner while John is the more stable and responsible half of the equation.

But regardless. Waid has really hit on something. INSUFFERABLE is a great superhero comic with two hilariously dysfunctional people who are forced by circumstance to work together long after they realized they could not stand to be around each other. Their broken partnership is a joy to watch in the face of rising supervillain threats. And throughout the entire series and right to its finale, Waid's therapist's philosophy rings true. Waid was upset by his friends. He was offended. He was hurt.

But: "Why be mad?" Be constructive. Be creative.

I thought it was interesting how the Season 1 finale of QUANTUM LEAP 2.0 left it somewhat ambiguous whether or not Ben made it home. The Season 2 premiere takes it as a given that Ben didn't make it and plunges him into an increasingly insane military operation with one of the most stressful sequences I've ever seen on the show, and the Project QL team only appears in flashbacks for most of the episode.

The situation is messed up and strange, and the situation seems to mirror the original cancellation of QL1.0: Sam never made it home and neither did Ben, except where Sam's situation was an awkward afterthought on a season finale abruptly hammered into the frame of a series finale, QL2.0 is telling this story deliberately and willfullly. I wonder where it will go.

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When it comes to netbooks, I am a bit like a former cult member. I still feel a certain fondness for the idea of a netbook. I mean, wasn't it a great idea? To spend $200 USD on a 10.1 inch laptop that, while hardly a gaming machine, was suitable for banging out emails and social media posts and handling your online business. A travel laptop that you could drop out a window by mistake and replace without causing a global economic crisis. The idea was spectacular and compelling and enticing: a cramped but usable burner laptop. The junker car of mobile computers. Even today, I find myself open to buying a 10.1 inch laptop.

The reality was... not quite that. The main issue with netbooks is that because the profit margins were so low on these products, manufacturers cut a lot of corners making them. I had the Acer Aspire One, the Asus Transformer T100 TAM, the Asus Transformer T100 Chi and the Asus Transformer Mini T102. All were cheap and awful: the Acer Aspire One battery went dead in a year, the Asus T100 TAM was was so badly sealed that dust would get under the screen, the T100 Chi's trackpad would randomly go dead; the Mini T102 developed white spots on the monitor. The only netbook I ever had that was actually good was the HP DM1 with the AMD E-450 processor, 4GB of RAM, a 120GB SSD -- and this was indeed the well-built, reliable, low weight netbook I'd been looking for, but I gave it away to a friend who was going back to school.

I got the Asus Vivobook L210, an 11.6 inch laptop with an Intel Celeron processor and 4GB of RAM... and it was unusably slow. I got the HP Elitebook Folio G3 which used the low power Intel Core M and even with an SSD and 8GB of RAM, Windows 10 ran so slowly that web browsers were constantly freezing up. It became clear: most of my netbooks had been during the days of Windows 7. But Windows 7 gave way to Windows 10, and where Windows 7 ran well on Intel Atom processors, spinning hard drives and 2GB of RAM, Windows 10 really demanded a solid state drive and at minimum 8GB of RAM with at least an Intel i3.

Ultimately, the smartphone and tablet killed the netbook. No one wanted to buy these poorly made, underpowered computers when smartphones offered more responsive performance and tablets offered better multimedia playback at a lighter weight, even if they didn't have the versatility of physical keyboards.

I'm currently using the HP Elitebook 830 G5 with an i5 processor and 8GB of RAM and an SSD. It's thin and light enough... but despite being a good value laptop, it certainly wouldn't be cheap to replace like a netbook. I still long for the return of burner netbooks. It will never happen, the profit margin is too low.

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The reality is that people can be swayed and tricked when they are made to feel special and important, whether that's by investing in a technology that was overhyped in the press after it was past its peak or by political or cultural affiliation. They can be scammed by endorsements from celebrities like Matt Damon. They can be swayed by the fear of missing out on a technology that they don't actually understand.

I myself was particularly obsessed with netbooks.

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TemporalFlux wrote:

Really, the only reason anything has value is because enough people believe it has value.  It’s all based on confidence.

Gold has value because it’s rare, it’s pretty and it’s physical - things that made it a symbol of power.  In the modern age, it also has usefulness in the physical ability to make technology work.

Paper money (like the US Dollar) had value initially because people had faith that the US government had enough gold (i.e. Fort Knox) to back up the dollar’s value.  In modern times, the dollar was unpegged from gold and took on a floating value.  But again, that value is backed by the full faith and credit of the US government (realistically based on perception of military might, industrial complex, alliances, etc).  Basically, the world believes the US is “good for it” (a belief that is eroding).

And now we have Bitcoin.  Can it have value?  Certainly - if enough people believe it does.  My concern is that I can’t see what’s backing it up.  All it seems to be is an exercise in how much electricity you can pump through a computer to do useless work.

I think people are more drawn to the idea of Bitcoin being a one world currency that governments can’t devalue through their action or inaction.  The worth of Bitcoin seems to be more as an aspirational philosophy; and that’s just not enough for me to believe in as a way to buy and sell goods and services.  I believe the value of Bitcoin is something as whimsical as the hippie movement (which largely faded from history and lost most of what faith it had).


Developments keep proving TF right on this. Cryptocurrency has proven to be useless, has no value backing it up, and it is also a massive scam.
https://slate.com/technology/2023/10/sb … cards.html

I look forward to catching up with Dr. Ben tomorrow!

This sounds fun. I hope you don't change the name. REWATCH PODCAST is quite stuck in the brain. I am severely behind on your podcasts on HEROES, so you shifting gears will let me catch up a bit. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on HEROES downright peculiar trajectory.

I too am excited for a second season of the QUANTUM LEAP revival.

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QuinnSlidr wrote:

I'm not here to tell you what's right or wrong. Just my philosophy. You can choose to agree or disagree. For me, I'm a one-issue voter this term: Democracy vs. Fascism. Once we save the nation from going down the path of Germany in 1943 with the rethuglicans, we can discuss concessions. The reason why is because of the shift in voter demographics in 2024. Rethuglicans are dreading this shift, because this means that next year, far more people will be progressive voters, and they will never hold a majority ever again. So they are trying to do everything they can, while they can now to ensure their ideals are passed in any way shape and form they choose. That is why we can't let fascism take hold.

Not being American, I can't vote in 2024, but if I could, I'd be voting the same as you which is to say I'd be voting against Trump. Canada will have an election in 2025 and I'll be voting against the Canadian equivalent of Trump. That doesn't mean I put the person who has won my vote on a pedestal, of course. I'm just choosing my preferred opponent.

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Joe Biden is letting Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman go without consequences for murdering a Washington Post journalist. The US is too dependent on Saudi Arabia as a trading partner and oil producer and economic power to cut ties or enact any repercussions.

https://vox.com/world-politics/2023/10/ … ears-later

Fairly or unfairly, it would seem that consensus politics are simply not where we will see right and wrong handled as right and wrong. Instead, it's a matter of political and economic allegiances and a fear of crashing an oil-dependent US economy.

Sometimes, as a voter, there are no good options. If I were in a position to vote in the next US election, I would be voting against Trump by voting for Biden, but examples like this one are why Biden hardly epitomizes my values and why I don't feel good about it and why I don't believe that we should present Biden as a saint even though we all know Trump is a demonic hellspawn from the dawn of time. (Some people worship the hellspawn.)

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I don't like it, but fairly or unfairly, our political system (US and Canada) will often require that we accept losing battles to people whose values are antithetical to our own. We should never like it or be proud of it, but the unfortunate and painful reality is that politicians with values of justice and equality are going to need votes from people they and we may find abhorrent. I don't like saying that or admitting it, but sometimes, we have to stick to our values and sometimes, we have to concede a moral defeat for a numerical victory. At least in the twisted and awful game that is consensus politics in North America. As a voter, I find myself voting against parties rather than for parties.

But maybe QuinnSlidr will talk me out of this mode of thinking and explain to me why I am Wrong.

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I never really know what to make of all the statistics except they seem to mean whatever you want them to mean.
https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+a … mp;dpr=1.5

Polls at this stage aren't really meaningful or useful. In fact, given how off the polls were in 2026 and 2020, I don't know if they're ever meaningful or useful anymore.

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I wonder if it'll be the saturated, colour-popping version or the washed out, VHS looking version.

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The Sci-Fi Channel, I feel, didn't really support SLIDERS. They wanted to cancel it almost as soon as they'd acquired it; they bought the license but didn't bother to mandate keeping Tracy Torme or John Rhys-Davies and Sabrina Lloyd. I don't know why they bought it only to dismiss it, and neither do they; apparently, the regime that had bought the license from FOX/Universal left and a totally different team was handling the actual Season 4 that aired. Sci-Fi didn't care about building SLIDERS as a franchise, they just wanted to sweep half of SLIDERS' viewers to FIRST WAVE and WELCOME TO PARADOX. (Thank you, TF.)

Syfy constantly chronically underinvested in their shows and was always keen to cancel them instead of growing an audience at first; they brought over existing shows for the audience, but they never put in the work to sustain and increase that audience. Even with their own shows: they underfunded DARK MATTER and KRYPTON and cancelled both; they sabotaged STARGATE when its producers sought a different network after Syfy cancelled the last STARGATE series. Syfy is known as a network that cancels its shows before its budgets increase, a network that isn't worth the audience's time and interest because Syfy doesn't give their shows much time or interest. Syfy is mostly in the business of airing other studios' productions in the United States as an uninvested broadcaster, airing what it doesn't own and not developing programming to keep viewership.

There could have been a great science fiction TV channel, but the Sci-Fi Channel really never put in the time or effort to be that channel and Syfy was pretty much the same. However, in 2021, Syfy did do something unusual: when WYNONNA EARP's studio, IDW, had funding issues, Syfy made up the difference with an increased licensing fee to fund the fourth and final season.

Looking at their current slate, Syfy seems to only have five shows right now and all of them premiered in 2021 or later. They have not sustained their programming. Their brand identity is cancellation.

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Have you used AI much? Personally, I think it would be useless to you in terms of SLIDERS.

The main issue that the writers' guild had with studios and AI: studios wanted to have executives autogenerate scripts with AI and then hire writers for a few days' work to rewrite these scripts.

Personally, I think writers should absolutely use AI; it's just a matter of how they use it.

The main issue that the writers' guild had with studios and AI: studios wanted to have executives autogenerate scripts with AI and then hire writers for a few days' work to rewrite these scripts. Writers balked at being paid even less to polish machine output.

I can assure you that the AI-generated scripts from the studio would have been garbage. I've used AI to generate screenplays, and they are hackneyed, regurgitated non-emotion, plotting that is either simple-minded or cognitively deficient, or structurally repetitive with each scene being a variant on the previous. Ask an AI to do SLIDERS stories and it outputs Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo fighting aliens.

However, AI can be a good assistive tool. I might ask the Sydney chatbot how Quinn, Wade, Rembrandt and Arturo can survive having a bazooka fired at the ceiling of their hotel room. But more relevantly: AI can help SLIDERS writers when they ask AI to generate ideas for alt-worlds that (a) reflect an exaggeration or a reversal of a common societal convention (b) are set in a world that operates at a present day level of technology without sci-fi advances and (c) provides a history for how the world arrived at this situation. AI can produce a few paragraphs for an alt-world concept -- and then a SLIDERS writer do a polish on the alt-world concept and then write a strong, human-produced script with that AI-generated alt history idea.

That's the sort of area where AI can truly help a writer speed up their process. AI is also effective at starting points for SLIDERS stories if you feed it what you want it to build its alt-history around: cryptocurrency; transgender identity; a world where blue-collar workers are the elites and white collar workers are peasants; a world where paper is considered a black market product of ecological criminality, etc..

AI is a writer's tool, but AI itself is not a writer. That said, I think AI tools would be wasted on Temporal Flux because Temporal Flux's world-building abilities need no help. Nigel Mitchell also doesn't need AI.